tv The Context BBC News July 10, 2023 9:00pm-9:30pm BST
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"we have seen evidence that supports their concerns and it is now for the bbc to properly investigate." one thing we can take away from all the events of the day is that the police are going to make further inquiries as to whether a criminal offence has occurred. they noticeably did not use the word "investigation", which to them is a higher level, if you like, a further step down an investigative route. we don't know exactly what - the nature of the relationship is between the young person and their mother who has spoken to the sunl because clearly from this letter the young i person is pushing back and _ saying what has been said is rubbish. - welcome back. post—brexit, it has not always been the easiest of relationships, we are going to discuss statements regarding the senior bbc presenter, a statement from a lawyer of the young person involved which will get into and also a statement and comment from the parents of the person involved. post—brexit, it has not always been the easiest of the relationships, butjoe biden said today the bond between the uk and the united states
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remains rock solid. in his brief visit to london en route to lithuania the president called in on the king at windsor and then on number 10. we will dig into what the purpose of that visit might have been. yevgeny prighozin led a mutiny on moscow two weeks ago. five days later he and his wagner generals were sitting in a meeting with vladimir putin. what was discussed, what does it mean for their future role in ukraine. and deep sea mining returns — a two—year moratorium comes to an end. why do we to go hunting beneath the waves, and what danger could that pose to pristine deep water habitats. our panel tonight is the former head of the russia desk at mi6 christopher steele and media law expert, david banks we are going to start with those allegations made on friday evening that a bbc presenter paid a teenager tens of thousands of pounds
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for sexually explicit images. the young person, now aged 20, is being represented by a lawyer — who has issued a statement in the last few hours. it says... in response, the sun has issued a statement. currently the bbc does not know the identity of this young person nor has it seen the sun's evidence. but bbc managers have spoken today to the metropolitan police who say they are assessing the information and taking a view on whether to open an investigation.
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let's get the very latest, our correspondent helena wilkinson is in the newsroom. perhaps you can start by talking to me about the sun reports tonight because the early copy dropped an hour ago and because the early copy dropped an hourago and in because the early copy dropped an hour ago and in that copy there are comments from the person of the young person involved. yes. comments from the person of the young person involved.— comments from the person of the young person involved. yes, the sun has published _ young person involved. yes, the sun has published a _ young person involved. yes, the sun has published a story _ young person involved. yes, the sun has published a story tonight - young person involved. yes, the sun has published a story tonight a - has published a story tonight a response saying that they stand by the story that they published in terms of the allegations that they printed over the weekend that have dominated the headlines over the weekend and today and probably in the weeks to come. in the sun article on their website night the mother of this youngster says it is sad but we stand by our account and we hope they, referring to her child who is now 20 years old, get the
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help they need. we did this to help in the presenter has got into their head. how did they afford the lawyer, the mother asks. we are so sad, says the stepfather, who has said to the sun that they are disappointed they made a statement, they referring to the youngster, it's not true says the stepfather. that is what the sun has in their report tonight in response to the lawyers letter which was sent to the bbc earlier today. has lawyers letter which was sent to the bbc earlier today.— bbc earlier today. has been any resonse bbc earlier today. has been any response from _ bbc earlier today. has been any response from the _ bbc earlier today. has been any response from the bbc- bbc earlier today. has been any response from the bbc to - bbc earlier today. has been any response from the bbc to the i bbc earlier today. has been any i response from the bbc to the state route that young person put out or indeed the detail in that storyjust read out? indeed the detail in that story 'ust read out? ., ., . . read out? no, nothing at all. nothin: read out? no, nothing at all. nothing from _ read out? no, nothing at all. nothing from the _ read out? no, nothing at all. nothing from the bbc - read out? no, nothing at all. i nothing from the bbc response read out? no, nothing at all. - nothing from the bbc response to that or anything today. the last time we had a statement from the director—general of the bbc was yesterday and also there was a statement from the bbc itself in that statement, it said that they
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hope to give an update on the situation in the next couple of days. perhaps there will be some sort of update from the corporation tomorrow but we started off the weekend with many, many questions surrounding the story and yet here we are this evening, there have been claims and counter claims and yet it feels like we are left with even more questions than many of them remain unanswered.— more questions than many of them remain unanswered. thank you. david, cominu remain unanswered. thank you. david, comin: to remain unanswered. thank you. david, coming to that — remain unanswered. thank you. david, coming to that point _ remain unanswered. thank you. david, coming to that point helena _ remain unanswered. thank you. david, coming to that point helena raised - coming to that point helena raised about the lawyer now representing the young person, it's a very forthright statement that this young person is put out, trashing the sun's story. but there will be very valid question is how a young person like that afford expensive legal representation.— like that afford expensive legal representation. well, iwouldn't necessarily— representation. well, iwouldn't necessarily make _ representation. well, iwouldn't necessarily make too _ representation. well, iwouldn't necessarily make too many - representation. well, i wouldn't - necessarily make too manyjudgments about that _ necessarily make too manyjudgments about that. throughout this whole thing _
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about that. throughout this whole thing people have been making rash judgments about what has happened, what's _ judgments about what has happened, what's going on and if we start making — what's going on and if we start making judgments about the fact this person— making judgments about the fact this person has— making judgments about the fact this person has access to a lawyer, again. _ person has access to a lawyer, again. we _ person has access to a lawyer, again, we won't be going down the wrong _ again, we won't be going down the wrong direction. it is every possibility that they might have accessed a pro bono lawyer or someone _ accessed a pro bono lawyer or someone doing it for a reduced fee. we simply— someone doing it for a reduced fee. we simply do not know. the someone doing it for a reduced fee. we simply do not know.— we simply do not know. the only reason i we simply do not know. the only reason i ask. _ we simply do not know. the only reason i ask, there _ we simply do not know. the only reason i ask, there varied - we simply do not know. the only| reason i ask, there varied points. we simply do not know. the only i reason i ask, there varied points. i only ask because the that is the point the parents are raising in this sun copy, that it's the lawyer or presenter that has gotten is ahead of the young person. putting that aside, what is the bbc have to take into account? this is a safeguarding issue for the bbc as much as it is a situation where they have to be fair to the person whose career representation is on the line. , ., ,
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career representation is on the line. , . , . . , career representation is on the line. , . , . line. the statements cast a new liuht line. the statements cast a new li . ht on line. the statements cast a new light on the _ line. the statements cast a new light on the situation _ line. the statements cast a new light on the situation but - line. the statements cast a new light on the situation but i - line. the statements cast a new| light on the situation but i think, i light on the situation but i think, i presume — light on the situation but i think, i presume that the bbc investigation will continue apace. but i think what _ will continue apace. but i think what it— will continue apace. but i think what it does do is give us an insight — what it does do is give us an insight into perhaps the difficulties the bbc have had with the investigation because if they don't _ the investigation because if they don't know who this young person is and have _ don't know who this young person is and have access to them, then how do you investigate the allegations being — you investigate the allegations being made? and how do you investigate when the only version of events— investigate when the only version of events you — investigate when the only version of events you have is one that's been given— events you have is one that's been given to _ events you have is one that's been given to the — events you have is one that's been given to the sun by the concerned parents? — given to the sun by the concerned parents? and in the complaint they apparently— parents? and in the complaint they apparently made to the bbc that they're _ apparently made to the bbc that they're not happy with how they've handled _ they're not happy with how they've handled it. — they're not happy with how they've handled it, the bbc has clearly had difficulty— handled it, the bbc has clearly had difficulty in progressing this investigation and that might be because — investigation and that might be because of the attitude of the people — because of the attitude of the people involved, you might also be part of— people involved, you might also be part of the — people involved, you might also be part of the bbc bureaucracy and whether— part of the bbc bureaucracy and whether that can contribute to the
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speed _ whether that can contribute to the speed of— whether that can contribute to the speed of the investigation. but what they have _ speed of the investigation. but what they have to do is continue with their— they have to do is continue with their investigation to reach some sort of— their investigation to reach some sort of conclusion so that it can satisfy— sort of conclusion so that it can satisfy itself about anything like safeguarding concerns that they might— safeguarding concerns that they might be. its safeguarding concerns that they miaht be. . ., safeguarding concerns that they miaht be. �* ., ., safeguarding concerns that they miahtbe. ., ., , ., might be. a lot of people on the world will be _ might be. a lot of people on the world will be watching _ might be. a lot of people on the world will be watching this - might be. a lot of people on the world will be watching this and l world will be watching this and questioning why it's had such prominence here in the uk. the point is, the bbc as a public broadcaster with a lot of emphasis in recent years on transparency and of course it puts a lot of stake in trust and trust in the music presents. 0f trust in the music presents. of course anything that relates to a bbc member of staff is of huge importance. but is a very odd situation where the bbc then ends up reporting in itself and in some way interviewing bosses who are a large part of the story. interviewing bosses who are a large part of the story-—
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part of the story. good evening. i think this isn't _ part of the story. good evening. i think this isn't the _ part of the story. good evening. i think this isn't the first _ part of the story. good evening. i think this isn't the first time - part of the story. good evening. i think this isn't the first time the i think this isn't the first time the bbc management— think this isn't the first time the bbc management issues- think this isn't the first time the bbc management issues have l think this isn't the first time the - bbc management issues have been questioned — bbc management issues have been questioned we _ bbc management issues have been questioned. we had _ bbc management issues have been questioned. we had the _ bbc management issues have been questioned. we had the jimmy- bbc management issues have been i questioned. we had the jimmy savile affair in— questioned. we had the jimmy savile affair in the _ questioned. we had the jimmy savile affair in the past _ questioned. we had the jimmy savile affair in the past and _ questioned. we had the jimmy savile affair in the past and indeed - questioned. we had the jimmy savile affair in the past and indeed other. affair in the past and indeed other things— affair in the past and indeed other things including _ affair in the past and indeed other things including the _ affair in the past and indeed other things including the cliff— affair in the past and indeed other things including the cliff richard l things including the cliff richard incident — things including the cliff richard incident so— things including the cliff richard incident so i_ things including the cliff richard incident. so i think— things including the cliff richard incident. so i think there - things including the cliff richard incident. so i think there are - things including the cliff richard . incident. so i think there are some questions — incident. so i think there are some questions hanging _ incident. so i think there are some questions hanging over— incident. so i think there are some questions hanging over the - incident. so i think there are some questions hanging over the bbc. incident. so i think there are somel questions hanging over the bbc but incident. so i think there are some . questions hanging over the bbc but i think i_ questions hanging over the bbc but i think i need — questions hanging over the bbc but i think i need two— questions hanging over the bbc but i think i need two things _ questions hanging over the bbc but i think i need two things matter- questions hanging over the bbc but i think i need two things matter in- think i need two things matter in the situation _ think i need two things matter in the situation and _ think i need two things matter in the situation and one _ think i need two things matter in the situation and one is- think i need two things matter in the situation and one is whether| think i need two things matter in. the situation and one is whether a criminal— the situation and one is whether a criminal offence _ the situation and one is whether a criminal offence was— the situation and one is whether a criminal offence was committed . the situation and one is whether a l criminal offence was committed and the it— criminal offence was committed and the it looks — criminal offence was committed and the it looks as — criminal offence was committed and the it looks as if— criminal offence was committed and the it looks as if that _ criminal offence was committed and the it looks as if that was _ criminal offence was committed and the it looks as if that was claimed . the it looks as if that was claimed yesterday— the it looks as if that was claimed yesterday and _ the it looks as if that was claimed yesterday and looks _ the it looks as if that was claimed yesterday and looks far _ the it looks as if that was claimed yesterday and looks far less - the it looks as if that was claimed| yesterday and looks far less likely today— yesterday and looks far less likely todav given — yesterday and looks far less likely todav given the _ yesterday and looks far less likely today given the police _ yesterday and looks far less likely today given the police response . yesterday and looks far less likely l today given the police response and secondly _ today given the police response and secondly whether _ today given the police response and secondly whether because - today given the police response and secondly whether because of - today given the police response and secondly whether because of the i today given the police response and . secondly whether because of the fame and power— secondly whether because of the fame and power of— secondly whether because of the fame and power of the — secondly whether because of the fame and power of the presenter— secondly whether because of the fame and power of the presenter the - secondly whether because of the fame and power of the presenter the bbc. and power of the presenter the bbc management— and power of the presenter the bbc management rushed _ and power of the presenter the bbc management rushed this— and power of the presenter the bbc management rushed this complaint| management rushed this complaint under— management rushed this complaint under the _ management rushed this complaint under the carpet. _ management rushed this complaint under the carpet. again, _ management rushed this complaint under the carpet. again, what- management rushed this complaint under the carpet. again, what we l management rushed this complaint. under the carpet. again, what we are seeing _ under the carpet. again, what we are seeing tonight — under the carpet. again, what we are seeing tonight although _ seeing tonight although impressionistic- seeing tonight although impressionistic suggest| seeing tonight although - impressionistic suggest that seeing tonight although _ impressionistic suggest that men's had been _ impressionistic suggest that men's had been the — impressionistic suggest that men's had been the case _ impressionistic suggest that men's had been the case so _ impressionistic suggest that men's had been the case so we _ impressionistic suggest that men's had been the case so we have - impressionistic suggest that men's had been the case so we have to l impressionistic suggest that men's i had been the case so we have to keep an open— had been the case so we have to keep an open mind — had been the case so we have to keep an open mind on— had been the case so we have to keep an open mind on this. _ had been the case so we have to keep an open mind on this. there - had been the case so we have to keep an open mind on this. there are - an open mind on this. there are procedures— an open mind on this. there are procedures that _ an open mind on this. there are procedures that must _ an open mind on this. there are procedures that must be - an open mind on this. there are i procedures that must be followed an open mind on this. there are - procedures that must be followed in some _ procedures that must be followed in some very— procedures that must be followed in some very important _ procedures that must be followed in some very important they— procedures that must be followed in some very important they are - procedures that must be followed in some very important they are and l procedures that must be followed in| some very important they are and as you say— some very important they are and as you say bbc— some very important they are and as you say bbc as — some very important they are and as you say bbc as a _ some very important they are and as you say bbc as a public _ some very important they are and as you say bbc as a public institution i you say bbc as a public institution in the _ you say bbc as a public institution in the uk — you say bbc as a public institution in the uk so — you say bbc as a public institution in the uk so we _ you say bbc as a public institution in the uk so we do _ you say bbc as a public institution . in the uk so we do all have a vested interest— in the uk so we do all have a vested interest in— in the uk so we do all have a vested interest in seeing _ in the uk so we do all have a vested interest in seeing it _ in the uk so we do all have a vested interest in seeing it resolved - interest in seeing it resolved properly _ interest in seeing it resolved
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--roerl . ., interest in seeing it resolved --roerl. ., , . ., properly. two points there i want to ex - lore. properly. two points there i want to explore- no — properly. two points there i want to explore- no one _ properly. two points there i want to explore. no one is _ properly. two points there i want to explore. no one is disputing - properly. two points there i want to explore. no one is disputing at - properly. two points there i want to explore. no one is disputing at all i explore. no one is disputing at all the seriousness of the situation investigation which must unfold but it seems sometimes that the bbc is held to a higher standard because it's a public body but because it's such a big organisation, surely it's bound to reflect frailties amongst its staff member is just as society does. so that's one point and the other point that comes to mind is if i was to try and get hold of the newsdesk on any particular day, i'd have difficulty and i work here. so does the bbc need something, a body that exists within the corporation which members of the public can come to with complaints of this nature? i think so. do your first point, yes. the bbc— think so. do your first point, yes. the bbc is — think so. do your first point, yes. the bbc is a _ think so. do your first point, yes. the bbc is a micro _ think so. do your first point, yes. the bbc is a micro across -
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think so. do your first point, yes. the bbc is a micro across the - the bbc is a micro across the nation, — the bbc is a micro across the nation, we _ the bbc is a micro across the nation, we are _ the bbc is a micro across the nation, we are always - the bbc is a micro across the i nation, we are always intimately invested — nation, we are always intimately invested in— nation, we are always intimately invested in it, _ nation, we are always intimately invested in it, or— nation, we are always intimately invested in it, or licence - nation, we are always intimately invested in it, or licence payersl invested in it, or licence payers and we — invested in it, or licence payers and we grow— invested in it, or licence payers and we grow up— invested in it, or licence payers and we grow up with _ invested in it, or licence payers and we grow up with the - invested in it, or licence payers and we grow up with the bbc, i invested in it, or licence payers. and we grow up with the bbc, we watched — and we grow up with the bbc, we watched a — and we grow up with the bbc, we watched a bbc, _ and we grow up with the bbc, we watched a bbc, is _ and we grow up with the bbc, we watched a bbc, is knitted - and we grow up with the bbc, we watched a bbc, is knitted into- and we grow up with the bbc, we | watched a bbc, is knitted into our national— watched a bbc, is knitted into our national life — watched a bbc, is knitted into our national life and _ watched a bbc, is knitted into our national life and so _ watched a bbc, is knitted into ouri national life and so understandably when _ national life and so understandably when something _ national life and so understandably when something like _ national life and so understandably when something like this _ national life and so understandably when something like this happensl when something like this happens there _ when something like this happens there is— when something like this happens there is a — when something like this happens there is a great— when something like this happens there is a great deal— when something like this happens there is a great deal of— when something like this happens there is a great deal of interest. l there is a great deal of interest. and, _ there is a great deal of interest. and. yes” _ there is a great deal of interest. and. yes” it's— there is a great deal of interest. and, yes,, it's going _ there is a great deal of interest. and, yes,, it's going to- there is a great deal of interest. and, yes,, it's going to have - there is a great deal of interest. | and, yes,, it's going to have the feeling _ and, yes,, it's going to have the feeling that _ and, yes,, it's going to have the feeling that we _ and, yes,, it's going to have the feeling that we have _ and, yes,, it's going to have the feeling that we have a _ and, yes,, it's going to have the feeling that we have a society. and, yes,, it's going to have the. feeling that we have a society and that is _ feeling that we have a society and that is going — feeling that we have a society and that is going to— feeling that we have a society and that is going to happen _ feeling that we have a society and that is going to happen because . feeling that we have a society and| that is going to happen because of the question— that is going to happen because of the question then _ that is going to happen because of the question then is _ that is going to happen because of the question then is how- that is going to happen because of the question then is how it - that is going to happen because of the question then is how it deals. the question then is how it deals with those — the question then is how it deals with those failings _ the question then is how it deals with those failings and _ the question then is how it deals with those failings and your - the question then is how it deals. with those failings and your second point, _ with those failings and your second point. yes, — with those failings and your second point. yes, if— with those failings and your second point. yes, if we— with those failings and your second point, yes, if we find _ with those failings and your second point, yes, if we find that - with those failings and your second point, yes, if we find that part- with those failings and your second point, yes, if we find that part of. point, yes, if we find that part of the problem _ point, yes, if we find that part of the problem here _ point, yes, if we find that part of the problem here was— point, yes, if we find that part of the problem here was a - point, yes, if we find that part of| the problem here was a slowness point, yes, if we find that part of- the problem here was a slowness for these _ the problem here was a slowness for these people's— the problem here was a slowness for these people's complaints _ the problem here was a slowness for these people's complaints to - the problem here was a slowness for these people's complaints to get - the problem here was a slowness for these people's complaints to get to. these people's complaints to get to these people's complaints to get to the people — these people's complaints to get to the people it — these people's complaints to get to the people it needed _ these people's complaints to get to the people it needed to— these people's complaints to get to the people it needed to get- these people's complaints to get to the people it needed to get to - these people's complaints to get to the people it needed to get to and i the people it needed to get to and bbc knowledge _ the people it needed to get to and bbc knowledge for— the people it needed to get to and bbc knowledge for it _ the people it needed to get to and bbc knowledge for it to _ the people it needed to get to and bbc knowledge for it to be - the people it needed to get to and i bbc knowledge for it to be properly investigated, — bbc knowledge for it to be properly investigated, then _ bbc knowledge for it to be properly investigated, then yes, _ bbc knowledge for it to be properly investigated, then yes, the - bbc knowledge for it to be properly investigated, then yes, the rib- investigated, then yes, the rib scenes— investigated, then yes, the rib scenes look— investigated, then yes, the rib scenes look at _ investigated, then yes, the rib scenes look at it _ investigated, then yes, the rib scenes look at it and - investigated, then yes, the rib scenes look at it and think, . investigated, then yes, the rib. scenes look at it and think, how investigated, then yes, the rib- scenes look at it and think, how do we facilitate — scenes look at it and think, how do we facilitate that _ scenes look at it and think, how do we facilitate that kind _ scenes look at it and think, how do we facilitate that kind of _ we facilitate that kind of complaint? _ we facilitate that kind of complaint? how- we facilitate that kind of complaint? how do - we facilitate that kind of complaint? how do we i we facilitate that kind of - complaint? how do we make sure we facilitate that kind of _ complaint? how do we make sure that we don't _ complaint? how do we make sure that we don't give — complaint? how do we make sure that we don't give the _ complaint? how do we make sure that we don't give the appearance - complaint? how do we make sure that we don't give the appearance of- we don't give the appearance of dragging — we don't give the appearance of dragging our— we don't give the appearance of dragging our feet— we don't give the appearance of
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dragging our feet simply- we don't give the appearance of. dragging our feet simply because it's going — dragging our feet simply because it's going through _ dragging our feet simply because it's going through the _ dragging our feet simply because it's going through the grind - dragging our feet simply because it's going through the grind of- it's going through the grind of bureaucratic— it's going through the grind of bureaucratic channels? - it's going through the grind of bureaucratic channels? so - it's going through the grind of- bureaucratic channels? so complaints like this— bureaucratic channels? so complaints like this which — bureaucratic channels? so complaints like this which obviously— bureaucratic channels? so complaints like this which obviously are - like this which obviously are extremely— like this which obviously are extremely serious _ like this which obviously are extremely serious quickly i like this which obviously are i extremely serious quickly get escalated _ extremely serious quickly get escalated to— extremely serious quickly get escalated to the _ extremely serious quickly get escalated to the people - extremely serious quickly get escalated to the people that. extremely serious quickly get - escalated to the people that they need to— escalated to the people that they need to see — escalated to the people that they need to see in _ escalated to the people that they need to see in order— escalated to the people that they need to see in order to _ escalated to the people that they need to see in order to have - escalated to the people that they need to see in order to have it i need to see in order to have it investigated _ need to see in order to have it investigated promptly- need to see in order to have it investigated promptly and - need to see in order to have it - investigated promptly and that might be something — investigated promptly and that might be something that _ investigated promptly and that might be something that comes _ investigated promptly and that might be something that comes out - investigated promptly and that might be something that comes out of- investigated promptly and that might be something that comes out of this. we simply— be something that comes out of this. we simply don't _ be something that comes out of this. we simply don't know— be something that comes out of this. we simply don't know because - be something that comes out of this. we simply don't know because it- we simply don't know because it might— we simply don't know because it might be — we simply don't know because it might be that _ we simply don't know because it might be that the _ we simply don't know because it might be that the bbc— we simply don't know because it might be that the bbc has - we simply don't know because it might be that the bbc has beenl we simply don't know because it- might be that the bbc has been doing all that— might be that the bbc has been doing all that and _ might be that the bbc has been doing all that and it — might be that the bbc has been doing all that and it might _ might be that the bbc has been doing all that and it might be _ might be that the bbc has been doing all that and it might be that _ might be that the bbc has been doing all that and it might be that it- all that and it might be that it went— all that and it might be that it went immediately— all that and it might be that it went immediately to - all that and it might be that it went immediately to the - all that and it might be that it- went immediately to the people in the bbc_ went immediately to the people in the bbc that— went immediately to the people in the bbc that need _ went immediately to the people in the bbc that need to _ went immediately to the people in the bbc that need to see - went immediately to the people in the bbc that need to see it - went immediately to the people in the bbc that need to see it but - went immediately to the people in. the bbc that need to see it but they have then _ the bbc that need to see it but they have then faced _ the bbc that need to see it but they have then faced insurmountable - have then faced insurmountable obstacles — have then faced insurmountable obstacles in— have then faced insurmountable obstacles in pursuing _ have then faced insurmountable obstacles in pursuing that- obstacles in pursuing that investigation. _ obstacles in pursuing that investigation. so- obstacles in pursuing that investigation. so bbc- obstacles in pursuing that| investigation. so bbc tells obstacles in pursuing that- investigation. so bbc tells us, we simply— investigation. so bbc tells us, we simply don't — investigation. so bbc tells us, we simply don't know. _ investigation. so bbc tells us, we simply don't know. the _ investigation. so bbc tells us, we simply don't know.— simply don't know. the bbc says toniuht it simply don't know. the bbc says tonight it followed _ simply don't know. the bbc says tonight it followed the _ simply don't know. the bbc says tonight it followed the processes properly at all times. it will be part of the investigation and we will live out there for now. thank you both of you. turkish president
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has agreed to forward sweden's application for nato approval. that was made by the nato head ahead of a two—day summit in lithuania which begins tomorrow. he isjoe biden landing in the baltic state ahead of that meeting with sweden and ukraine's membership very much top of the agenda. before heading to vilnius, president biden came here for a whistle—stop visit to london, a brief visit with king charles in which they discuss matters relating to the environment and then he headed up to number 10 when i talked about ukraine and also about china. britain is of course among other countries that have expressed concerns about the decision to send cluster bombs to ukraine but today the president insisted they will make up for ukraine's shortfall of ammunition at the front and let slip that the us might also be running
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low on certain types of munitions. we will talk about weapon supply shortly but i want to focus on those key discussions at the summit would be principally about sweden and ukraine's future membership. let's have a listen to what the nato secretary had to sayjust a short time ago. i secretary had to say 'ust a short time auo. ~ . time ago. i think the agreement we achieved today _ time ago. i think the agreement we achieved today builds _ time ago. i think the agreement we achieved today builds on _ time ago. i think the agreement we achieved today builds on in - time ago. i think the agreement we achieved today builds on in madrid, where all allies agreed to invite finland and sweden to become members. the application process has been finalised for finland, is now a full member and now president erdogan has agreed that they are ready to ratify sweden. that is reflected in the joint statement where we state to both what sweden is going to do, this is not a new negotiation but it's about implementing and reassuring the
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different things we agreed a year ago in madrid and also stated that what nato would do and than that, the final paragraph here makes it clear that they are ready to transmit accession protocol with the assembly to ensure ratification. let's cross to vilnius where lewis has been watching this. this news is breaking in the last hour and puts to bed one of the key issues, one of the outstanding issues that they were going to be looking at in the summits. does it therefore put more of the focus on this issue about ukraine and ukraine's future membership? ihla ukraine and ukraine's future membership?— ukraine and ukraine's future membership? ukraine and ukraine's future membershi? ., ., , . �* membership? no doubt about that. but ou are membership? no doubt about that. but you are allowed — membership? no doubt about that. but you are allowed to _ membership? no doubt about that. but you are allowed to give _ membership? no doubt about that. but you are allowed to give the members i you are allowed to give the members here at least an hour to celebrate and enjoy their achievement before you start talking about what they are going to do next. 0n sweden buff
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to give you an idea about how far we have come in yesterday, president erdogan started today talking about the need for the eu to allow turkey to join the need for the eu to allow turkey tojoin before he could then the need for the eu to allow turkey to join before he could then allow sweden into nato stop now, just in the last hour, we have had as you heard from is 0ldenburg confirmation processes are now under way. some information about key leaders, sweden's prime minister saying it's a good day for sweden, taking a very big step towards nato membership. german foreign minister said good news from vilnius, just on the eve of the nato summit. joe biden from the us saying looking forward to welcoming sweden and it will be the 32nd member of nato, 31st before sweden. —— sweden finland. this is a
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historic day according to stoltenberg, a very good start to the summit for him. he will be very pleased. to get your point, they have voice been two key countries here when it comes to the issue of nato membership, sweden and that seems like it's taking a big step forward and i should point out a bit of detail, it's not actually present at a one's gift completely, it has to go through parliament to make sure it happens. anyway, membership sweden and ukraine. there is no expectation ukraine willjoin nato whilst the war is going on. but there does seem to be a bit of the buts because president zelensky has been absolutely clear now for a while that he wants assurance that come the end of the conflict, ukraine is in nato. when it comes to
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nato alliance, there has been a long—standing acceptance and wanting ukraine tojoin long—standing acceptance and wanting ukraine to join but long—standing acceptance and wanting ukraine tojoin but no long—standing acceptance and wanting ukraine to join but no specific timetable. you get the sense from president zelensky�*s message that anything short of that key concrete form of words that says ukraine will join at the end of the war, anything short of that and he won't be happy. christopher just short of that and he won't be happy. christopherjust coming on that, where'd you sit ukraine joining nato? clearly there is concern within washington that if that happened in fast tracked once the war is over, it might come to the peace. war is over, it might come to the eace. , . , ., peace. yes, the arguments for dela in: peace. yes, the arguments for delaying it _ peace. yes, the arguments for delaying it is — peace. yes, the arguments for delaying it is interesting - peace. yes, the arguments for| delaying it is interesting during this war— delaying it is interesting during this war how much some of the announcements had been overtaken by events— announcements had been overtaken by events very— announcements had been overtaken by events very quickly. when this was first moved — events very quickly. when this was first moved forward back in 2006 by
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in fact— first moved forward back in 2006 by in fact the _ first moved forward back in 2006 by in fact the united states vice president at the time, even i thought— president at the time, even i thought it was premature and probably provocative. we have come a lon- probably provocative. we have come a long way— probably provocative. we have come a long way since then and, ultimately if ukraine _ long way since then and, ultimately if ukraine is— long way since then and, ultimately if ukraine is compatible in the wates— if ukraine is compatible in the wates government and its military operations and so on with nato membership and it's clearly in support— membership and it's clearly in support ofjoining nato, then like finland _ support ofjoining nato, then like finland and sweden, it should be allowed _ finland and sweden, it should be allowed to do so. not prematurely and probably not before the end of the war~ _ and probably not before the end of the war. ., ., and probably not before the end of the war. . ,, , ., and probably not before the end of the war. ., ~' , ., , and probably not before the end of the war. . ,, , ., , ., and probably not before the end of the war. ., ,, ,, , ., ., the war. thank you. plenty more to come from — the war. thank you. plenty more to come from lewis _ the war. thank you. plenty more to come from lewis and _ the war. thank you. plenty more to come from lewis and vilnius - the war. thank you. plenty more to come from lewis and vilnius over i the war. thank you. plenty more to i come from lewis and vilnius over the next few days of the important summit. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines in the uk. a teenage boy is being questioned on suspicion of attempted murder after a teacher was stabbed at a school. the incident happened at tewkesbury academy in gloucestershire on monday morning. police confirmed that the teacher is in a stable condition on monday afternoon. a review into failings in maternity care in hospitals in nottingham is set to become the largest
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in the uk. donna 0ckenden, chair of the inquiry, is expected to announce that 1,700 families will have their cases examined. dozens of babies are known to have died or suffered life—long injuries as a result of poor maternity care in the city — dating back more than a decade. easyjet has cancelled 1,700 flights to and from gatwick airport during july, august and september. the company blamed constrained airspace over europe and ongoing air traffic control difficulties. it said 95% of affected passengers had been re—booked on otherflights. you're live with bbc news. representatives from 168 nations are ins kingston, jamaica for a three—week summit deciding the fate
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of the deep sea. the international sea authorities to decide whether to allow companies to mine the deep sea for metals minerals which they say are crucialfor for metals minerals which they say are crucial for the transition to net—zero. the main area of concern is the four and a half thousand miles of the deep pacific between hawaii and mexico known as the clarion tiverton zone. there on the sea bed there are potato —sized deposits that companies want to extract. let's speak to jared, the ceo of the metals company looking to extract some of these minerals. tell me about what you are after. what is down there deep in the sea bed in the pacific that could be so valuable to the way our economies work? ~ ., valuable to the way our economies work? . . , ., , ., work? high. we have billions of tonnes of what _ work? high. we have billions of tonnes of what we _ work? high. we have billions of tonnes of what we know - work? high. we have billions of tonnes of what we know as - tonnes of what we know as polymetallic nodules like the one i have in my hand and they lie on the sea floor like golf balls and a driving range and the exciting thing
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about these nodules is they can contain all of the battery metals that we are going to need billions of tonnes of as we decarbonise. 0ne of tonnes of as we decarbonise. one of tonnes of as we decarbonise. one of the great things about this part of the great things about this part of the great things about this part of the planet as we know 70% of our planet is covered in ocean and 40% is referred to as the abyssal zone which is about 4000 metres below sea level. it's an area where there are no plants, zero flora, and very little for net as well because there's not much food down there. if you measure the amount of life per square metre, there's about ten grams and most of that is bacteria. and so if we think about as we transition away from fossil fuels, we surely should be carrying out extractive industries in parts of the planet where there is the least life and we can cause the least impact on humans as opposed to what we're doing now which is pushing in
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to some of the most bio diverse and important rainforest habitats on our planet. important rainforest habitats on our lanet. , ., important rainforest habitats on our lanet. , . ,., . ,., planet. thus an important point which i planet. thus an important point which i will _ planet. thus an important point which i will come _ planet. thus an important point which i will come back- planet. thus an important point which i will come back too. - planet. thus an important point which i will come back too. just| planet. thus an important point - which i will come back too. just how that rock up to me because we have a strap on the bottom of the screen. so they are thus not very big. talk to me about the technology. want to redress this point you make but habitats because the fact of the matter is the natural history museum said recently that they found 5000 previously unknown species. isn't there a danger that in those sorts of depths, we actually don't know what is there? is a habitats we haven't exposed?— what is there? is a habitats we haven't exposed? what is there? is a habitats we haven't exosed? ~ ~ ., . ., haven't exposed? well, we know a lot about these — haven't exposed? well, we know a lot about these habitats _ haven't exposed? well, we know a lot about these habitats but _ haven't exposed? well, we know a lot about these habitats but you - haven't exposed? well, we know a lot about these habitats but you are - about these habitats but you are right. we still are discovering new species and in fact, 5000 is what the estimate there might be there, species and the sea there where we are focused, known as the clarion sign. save to keep into perspective.
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let's go to indonesian rainforest where all of the current growth in nickel supply most of the revenue in our project comes from nickel. they estimate there are more than 300,000 species yet to be identified and so is about the same on land but of course in the abyssal zone because there is no big plant life, we focus on everything that is below ground whereas we don't even focus on that on land. that doesn't mean we don't have to take care of it, for the last dozen years my company, the metals company have been focused on understanding this ecosystem but others have been added as well, for the last 50 years the study of this ecosystem and to understand what would be the impacts if we remove these nodules and turn them into battery metals compared to the impacts of what doing today on land.
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just pulls only have a minute left and i want to bring christopher in. inspect on russia. tell me about whether something might be necessary. whether something might be necessary-— whether something might be necessa . ., , necessary. russia of course has a substantial _ necessary. russia of course has a substantial amount _ necessary. russia of course has a substantial amount of _ necessary. russia of course has a substantial amount of rare - necessary. russia of course has a substantial amount of rare earth l substantial amount of rare earth metals _ substantial amount of rare earth metals and indeed virtually every resource — metals and indeed virtually every resource you can imagine. you can imagine _ resource you can imagine. you can imagine lots— resource you can imagine. you can imagine lots of it and difficult territory _ imagine lots of it and difficult territory to mine but of course given — territory to mine but of course given russia's track record in the last four— given russia's track record in the last four years could well be used in some _ last four years could well be used in some sort of score leverage on the rest _ in some sort of score leverage on the rest of— in some sort of score leverage on the rest of the world and this also applies— the rest of the world and this also applies to — the rest of the world and this also applies to china.— applies to china. deep sea mining was u- applies to china. deep sea mining was up thank _ applies to china. deep sea mining was up thank you _ applies to china. deep sea mining was up thank you very _ applies to china. deep sea mining was up thank you very much - was up thank you very much for coming on. be right back. we've had some centre today but also some wet weather. thunderstorms as well. it looks unsettled for the rest of the week with very few
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places escaping the showers. especially becoming quite windy out there at the moment so will be windy at times, eventually will feel fresher but at the moment not so because we have a south—westerly breeze pushing all this moisture in. still quite muggy air and so as a result, there will be some further lively downpours from this rain in the north, another area of heavy rain, potentially thundery pushing in southern areas during the night. but to the south of that, that is where we have the most humid air. a comfortable night for sleeping here stop but even further north, temperatures will hold between 12 and 14 celsius, the rain settling across the far north—east of scotland and northern isles come morning around the area of low pressure. it's moving or drifting north—eastwards so that when a friend is dragging its foothills across areas and lots of mac around the hills in the morning before it clears out of the way, some coastal fog potentially in the day of sunny spells and showers. the low pressure almost overhead and the strength of
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the july almost overhead and the strength of thejuly sunshine, almost overhead and the strength of the july sunshine, we'll see almost overhead and the strength of thejuly sunshine, we'll see some lively showers. torrential downpours, lots of rain in the short space of time, gusty winds and some hail and thunder. temperatures are a degree or two down so just starting to lose the humidity. can't promise a dry wimbledon on tuesday, initial rain in the morning and they could be a shower later in the day. that low pressure is so close by. it is still with us on wednesday, shifting a bit further into the north sea so drawing in more of a north or north—westerly wind for most of the country but a fair breeze which will blow through in most secret and in in the north and west. temperatures in the north and west. temperatures in paro tuesday but losing that humidity a little bit. feeling fresher but strength and warmth in that sunshine when you see it. a little bit more on thursday, a breach of high moving in but does not last. the next area of low
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