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meet up when the person pressure to meet up when the person hinted _ pressure to meet up when the person hinted they— pressure to meet up when the person hinted they might name the presenter, they said they were then sent abusive messages. it�*s presenter, they said they were then sent abusive messages.— presenter, they said they were then sent abusive messages. it's got much more serious — sent abusive messages. it's got much more serious in _ sent abusive messages. it's got much more serious in the _ sent abusive messages. it's got much more serious in the last _ sent abusive messages. it's got much more serious in the last couple - sent abusive messages. it's got much more serious in the last couple of- more serious in the last couple of hours. because— more serious in the last couple of hours, because as _ more serious in the last couple of hours, because as he _ more serious in the last couple of hours, because as he reported, . more serious in the last couple of. hours, because as he reported, we now have _ hours, because as he reported, we now have a — hours, because as he reported, we now have a second _ hours, because as he reported, we now have a second young - hours, because as he reported, we now have a second young person . hours, because as he reported, we| now have a second young person in his or— now have a second young person in his or her— now have a second young person in his or her 20s — now have a second young person in his or her 20s who _ now have a second young person in his or her 20s who has _ now have a second young person in his or her 20s who has made - his or her 20s who has made a complaint _ good evening, welcome to the programme. tonight, a second person has made allegations about the bbc presenter, who was accused in the sun newspaper of paying for sexually explicit photos. separate to that, the bbc director general has answered questions today over the corporation's handling of the original complaint and the impact the allegations have had. we will delve deep into that at the top of the programme. also tonight, ukraine is put on the fast—track
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to nato membership, so long as the conditions are met. what does that mean? when might that happen? and who is driving the future of men's golf? the leaders of the pga tour have been grilled by us senators today over the deal they struck with saudi arabia. what impositions will that place on the game's biggest stars? all that to come. we start with that major development in the story about that bbc presenter who is accused of sending money for sexually explicit photographs. the bbc has now made contact with a second person, in their early 20s, who says they felt threatened by the same presenter. this second person was first contacted by the presenter through a dating app, and claims that subsequently the presenter began sending menacing messages. they're not believed to have made a complaint to the corporation. let's speak to charlotte gallagher.
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charlotte, tell me about this latest allegation and where this takes the story and what sort of position this puts the bbc in. this story and what sort of position this puts the bbc in.— puts the bbc in. this is a second ounu puts the bbc in. this is a second young person. — puts the bbc in. this is a second young person, like _ puts the bbc in. this is a second young person, like you - puts the bbc in. this is a second young person, like you said, - puts the bbc in. this is a second | young person, like you said, who puts the bbc in. this is a second - young person, like you said, who has no connection to the first young person that the allegations involved. they say, this person, they met this unnamed male presenter on a dating out, they felt pressure to meet up in person but they didn't want to. they then say they hinted online they would name the presenter. the presenter responded, sending text messages that were abusive and they scared this person. they said they felt threatened and they felt feel frail —— fearful. that's the situation at the moment with this investigation. the bbc is in an odd position because the
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police about the bbc deposit their internal investigation —— to pause, because the police need to conduct their own inquiries into whether evidence of a criminal offence is there. what that could be centres around the age of the first person and the allegations. the mother of that person says they were 17 when they began exchanging sexually explicit images with this presenter. under uk law, someone is considered a child until they are 18 when it comes to the these things, so to take, share, possess indecent images of someone under 18 is a crime. but it's important to say the police have said there is no formal investigation at the moment. charlotte, thank you very much. well, earlier today, the bbc set out a more detailed timeline into the investigation that was begun into the first case, reported in the sun. specifically — those allegations that he had paid a young person for explicit photographs. the director general tim davie
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confirmed that the mother and the step—father of the person involved first came to a bbc building in may to make a formal complaint which the next day they made in writing. the bbc said its corporate investigations team, which includes retired police officers, made two attempts — over several weeks — to contact the family. one was by email and one was by phone — which did not one was by email and one trigger any response. the case was left open, but the bbc did not speak to the presenter until seven weeks after the initial complaint, when new and more serious information emerged in the sun newspaper. the bbc director general, tim davie, conceded that the allegations had been "clearly damaging", but the bbc — he says — has been asked to pause its internal investigations by the metropolitan police, who are now conducting a scoping inquiry. in terms of the situation we've got on our hands here. got on our hands here,
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i think i want to say one thing up front, which is you are balancing serious allegations, duty of care, privacy issues and legitimate public interest. and how do you navigate that fairly, calmly and do due diligence? i've given a bit of context to a few people in terms of the numbers of issues we get coming into our corporate investigations unit, over six months, that would be about 250. and you take those and they are the serious complaints that are coming through of all different types. and what happens is we have an outstanding corporate investigations team. they're very experienced. they assess the complaint. now, i'm not going to go into the absolute specifics because of privacy concerns in terms of what the complaints to your question. i understand that. with me to discuss is adam bolton. welcome. good to have you with us. a couple of issues that tim davie
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raise, which i want to get your take on. first of all, this time period between the initial complaint that was made sometime in the middle of may, and the seven weeks that lapsed until the sun broke the story —— the sun. one phone call and one e—mail. was that sufficient? it sun. one phone call and one e-mail. was that sufficient?— was that sufficient? it clearly wasn't for — was that sufficient? it clearly wasn't for the _ was that sufficient? it clearly wasn't for the family, - was that sufficient? it clearly wasn't for the family, who i was that sufficient? it clearly l wasn't for the family, who then was that sufficient? it clearly - wasn't for the family, who then went to the sun newspaper, and then the family complained about the lack of response from the bbc about the presenter in question. you can understand they felt that it hasn't been swept on the carpet. there are lots of complaints coming. some people will question that. i think the conclusion has to be, had the sun not done it story, not much would happen. the sun not done it story, not much would happen-— sun not done it story, not much would happen. sun not done it story, not much would ha en. ,, , ., ., ., would happen. the sun put out a lot of reported — would happen. the sun put out a lot of reported speech _ would happen. the sun put out a lot of reported speech from _ would happen. the sun put out a lot of reported speech from the family i of reported speech from the family so far. how a published prematurely
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and is the onus now on them to put more evidence in the public domain? tim davie put it very well when he said the bbc has to balance the duty of care towards the individuals involved, the right to privacy, against the public is or is all my interest, and so indeed is the sun. —— the public�*s interest. reasonable right to privacy is not for them to name this individual. this put them in the very difficult position because they can't produce evidence because they can't produce evidence because they can't produce evidence because the evidence is likely to identify both the presenter and the young person in question.— young person in question. you're riaht, young person in question. you're right. there _ young person in question. you're right. there is — young person in question. you're right, there is clearly _ young person in question. you're right, there is clearly a _ young person in question. you're right, there is clearly a duty - young person in question. you're right, there is clearly a duty of. right, there is clearly a duty of care to the presenter, but there's also duty to care to the other presenters in the building. jeremy vine tweeted tonight this. "i'm
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starting to think they should come forward publicly. these allegations will result in yet more vitriol being thrown at perfectly innocent colleagues of his and the bbc, which i'm sure he loved, is on his knees with this, but it's his decision in his decision alone." i with this, but it's his decision in his decision alone."— with this, but it's his decision in his decision alone." i think those are all very _ his decision alone." i think those are all very good _ his decision alone." i think those are all very good points. - his decision alone." i think those are all very good points. it - his decision alone." i think those are all very good points. it is - are all very good points. it is quite clear, we're told this is a household name, a seniorfigure at the bbc, and it's clear that the uncertainty which tim davie was saying are doing damage to the institution. also, they are putting pressure on colleagues who have been named. i would agree with tim davie, frankly, that this individual, if it is the individual, i think in their own interest in the interest in the corporation, they should name themselves. if all this is completely untrue, then they stand
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to frankly make a great deal of money from the sun and lead to the possible closure of it. so long as they, to use the phrases, hide behind their lawyers, that put everyone else in and uncomfortable position. everyone else in and uncomfortable osition. �* . everyone else in and uncomfortable osition. v . everyone else in and uncomfortable osition. �*, ., , ,, position. there's a broader issue, which people _ position. there's a broader issue, which people and _ position. there's a broader issue, which people and around - position. there's a broader issue, which people and around the - position. there's a broader issue, l which people and around the world might be asking. after the cliff record —— cliff —— cliff richard case, they decided they had of reasonable right to privacy until the allegations were proven. you're a long—time political editor. the rules aren't always consistent because we have mps and accused in the house of commons, and yet his name is still the public domain. where is the difference
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here? i domain. where is the difference here? ~ ' . . domain. where is the difference here? ~' ' . , ., here? i think the difference is that this is about _ here? i think the difference is that this is about the _ here? i think the difference is that this is about the media, _ here? i think the difference is that this is about the media, it's - here? i think the difference is that this is about the media, it's about| this is about the media, it's about the bbc and it's about someone who's not a politician. there is a sort of certain feeling that people involved in politics are more accountable. i would argue that someone who's a national figure would argue that someone who's a nationalfigure in news or current affairs should also be accountable on the basis that we spend time holding people to account. newsnight, for example, has made a feature of looking at bullying and sexual misbehavior in the house of commons. i think that was recognised by tim davie when he talks about legitimate interests.— legitimate interests. there is a . reat legitimate interests. there is a great pride _ legitimate interests. there is a great pride in _ legitimate interests. there is a great pride in this _ legitimate interests. there is a great pride in this building - legitimate interests. there is a i great pride in this building about trust, the trust that people put in the bbc. but that trust is hard earned and easily lost, and at the root of it is transparency, which is why it's so important to a lot of us
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in this building that this is handled properly in the process is right. handled properly in the process is ritht. . . handled properly in the process is rirht, ., , ., handled properly in the process is ritht. ., , , , ., right. that is a problem because, at the moment. _ right. that is a problem because, at the moment, the _ right. that is a problem because, at the moment, the expose _ right. that is a problem because, at the moment, the expose or- right. that is a problem because, at - the moment, the expose or non-expose the moment, the expose or non—expose is hanging on the illegality of what went on. if nothing illegal happened, then, as it were, everyone reads again. however, one does have to say that it's possible that this complaint that we've heard today, which the bbc has identified, that could be a disciplinary matter anyway because most of us — i'm sure you do — sign contracts where the stackable offence to bring into disrepute with the public. which could be a similar— disrepute with the public. which could be a similar issue... - could be a similar issue... crosstalk just one final point. there's an issue for the bbc in that it wants to put this it to bed. the prime minister said it need to do that. he
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commented on a nato summit in lithuania, but they can't because the met police have got their own inquiry and have said the bbc should pause. is that a dilemma? i inquiry and have said the bbc should pause. is that a dilemma?— pause. is that a dilemma? i think it is. the bbc. _ pause. is that a dilemma? i think it is. the bbc. i — pause. is that a dilemma? i think it is. the bbc, i assume, _ pause. is that a dilemma? i think it is. the bbc, i assume, normally i is. the bbc, iassume, normally obeys what the police have it to do. it seems to me a rather belated and unhelpful intervention by the police, a bit like what we saw during the partygate affair. that said, if the police have reason to believe now that they think a crime has been committed, then they would take priority. has been committed, then they would take priority-— take priority. adam bolton, really tood to take priority. adam bolton, really good to see _ take priority. adam bolton, really good to see you. _ take priority. adam bolton, really good to see you. thank _ take priority. adam bolton, really good to see you. thank you. - around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. a people trafficker has been jailed for 12 years and seven months over the deaths of 39 vietnamese migrants in a lorry container. the bodies were discovered on an industrial estate in grays
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in essex, in october 2019. mario drug yi qi is believed to be the ringleader and was extradited to face charges. the teacher who was stabbed in a corridor at tewkesbury academy has been named as jamie sansom. in a statement, mr sansom said he was "recovering well" and added he was not intervening in a fight when the incident happened on monday, but could not comment further. mr samson has taught maths at the school since 2017. borisjohnson boris johnson and his borisjohnson and his wife carrie have released therefore —— announce the birth of their third child. carriejohnson posted his picture on it instagram. you're live with bbc news.
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the nato summit in vilnius began with a big announcement. turkey's decision to lift their veto on sweden's accession was an important step forward. veto on sweden's accession but that immediate cause for celebration was somewhat overshadowed by a statement from ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky, who said it was absurd that nato leaders had not provided any timetable on ukraine's prospects forfuture membership. there are plenty of countries in europe that believe it's a moral imperative for a clear path to be set out. president biden had signalled that he was reluctant to make any commitments until it is fully understood how the war ends. what happens for instance, if there's a ceasefire, but part of ukraine remains occupied. tonight however, nato has issued a statement clarifying its position. ukraine, it says, will be invited to join �*when conditions are met�*. a form of words the secretary general thinks will give ukraine some confidence. we've reaffirmed that ukraine will
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become a nato member. this will change ukraine's members ship to a 1—step process. we also made clear that we will issue an invitation to ukraine tojoin that we will issue an invitation to ukraine to join nato when allies agree and conditions are met. lets cross 22, lithuania. _ agree and conditions are met. lets cross 22, lithuania. -- _ agree and conditions are met. lets cross 22, lithuania. —— class to vilnius the bbc�*s lewis vaughan jones is at the summit. .it is .itisa . it is a sick of get statement from jens stoltenberg. _ . it is a sick of get statement from jens stoltenberg. nato _ . it is a sick of get statement from jens stoltenberg. nato has - . it is a sick of get statement from jens stoltenberg. nato has made. jens stoltenberg. nato has made significant commitments to ukraine. extra military packages, for example. whatjens stoltenberg was talking about meant they're going to speed up the application process for ukraine tojoin. they're going to do away with some of the normal
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procedures. they've also committed to giving ukraine effectively a louder voice, a clearform of communication with nato itself. significant developments from the nato side. president zelensky flew in here this afternoon and this evening, he's been at a dinner with other heads of state at a more social affair this evening. a few hours earlier, he was at a rally not just a few miles from here. he spoke at that rally. just take a listen to the language he uses. translation: today here in vilnius, we have a ukrainian _ flag from the battlefield in bakhmut. bakhmut is one of the biggest battles for freedom in europe. it will be remembered by our grandparents our grandsons. cheering translation: i came here today believing in the partners, -
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believing in the strong nato, in a nato that does not doubt, does not waste time and does not turn heads toward any aggressor. ukraine will make nato stronger and nato will make ukraine safer. zele ns ky zelensky wanted a direct timeline, a clear timeline for ukraine to join nato. he didn't get that from nato today. what will he make of what he was given? how will it be received? we can speak to the? was given? how will it be received? we can speak t— we can speak to they retired 4-star teneral we can speak to they retired 4-star general and — we can speak to they retired 4-star general and former _ we can speak to they retired 4-star general and former head _ we can speak to they retired 4-star general and former head of - we can speak to they retired 4-star general and former head of nato i general and former head of nato military. thanks so much for coming on the programme. this has been a significant day in lithuania. what do you make of the offer from jens stoltenberg from nato to ukraine? is that enough?—
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that enough? well, that remains to be seen. that enough? well, that remains to be seen- first. _ that enough? well, that remains to be seen. first, we _ that enough? well, that remains to be seen. first, we do _ that enough? well, that remains to be seen. first, we do need - that enough? well, that remains to be seen. first, we do need to - be seen. first, we do need to thank jens for staying on another year. i was his first secular and he is incredibly good, and he has served since that time. —— first stacker. to help turkey over the hurdle to get sweden into nato is important. i do believe that the statements made by nate are good. they are short of what some want and maybe point to a little bit of an opportunity lost, but the good news is these guarantees that ukraine will enter, ukraine will not require a map, and the idea that this will happen that the conditions are met, these are good. the two audiences that i'm
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most concerned about — remember, i'm not a politician, i'm a military person — the two i'm concerned about are the ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield. are they going to look at this and say nato is with us, and nate is going to stand by us? that's nato is going to stand by us? that's the first and most important audience. in the second most important audience in my mind is mr putin. he needs to know this is a done deal, this is going to happen, and he's not going to be able to stop it. we need to send mr putin a clear message that his follies and ukraine starting in 2014 are not going to succeed. that's the second audience. i going to succeed. that's the second audience. . . going to succeed. that's the second audience. , ., ., , audience. i “ust want to “ump in there. just i audience. i just want to “ump in there, just because _ audience. i just want to “ump in there, just because 1h audience. i just want to jump in there, just because i wonder i audience. i just want to jump in - there, just because i wonder whether nato missed an opportunity to go further here. i spoke to a british army officer who said one option would've been to get a cease—fire,
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however fragile, between would've been to get a cease—fire, howeverfragile, between russia and ukraine and you get nato membership then. that could have been a really significant offer from nato, significant offerfrom nato, but they haven't done that. significant offer from nato, but they haven't done that.- significant offer from nato, but they haven't done that. yeah, that's a tou . h they haven't done that. yeah, that's a tough position _ they haven't done that. yeah, that's a tough position to _ they haven't done that. yeah, that's a tough position to take _ they haven't done that. yeah, that's a tough position to take because - they haven't done that. yeah, that's a tough position to take because a l a tough position to take because a cease—fire leaves ukraine in a tough position. the ideal position, of course, is the position that president zelensky and the people of ukraine are increasingly more strident and, and that is all of russia out of all of ukraine. that's the best point from which to bring ukraine into the alliance. but a cease—fire, which in the long run, advantages russia, is something that would have to be managed in a very delicate way.
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would have to be managed in a very delicate way-— delicate way. general philip, thank ou so delicate way. general philip, thank you so much _ delicate way. general philip, thank you so much for— delicate way. general philip, thank you so much for your _ delicate way. general philip, thank you so much for your time. - delicate way. general philip, thank you so much for your time. good i you so much for your time. good regards to those nato military operations. christian, iwilljust hand back to you with a reflection that although it is very quiet here, i think they literally turn the lights off behind me, giving me a hint! there is still significant amount to be done. this is only day one. a lot more comments and we'll hearfrom a lot one. a lot more comments and we'll hear from a lot more interested parties here tonight. there's no sympathy here, lewis. we need our pound of flesh. thank you. anyone who has studied geology in any detail will probably have come across a diagram similar to this. you might be able to read it in detail, but it is a visual reference that frames how scientists view the earth's devolution. the natural changes in global temperatures. today, scientists
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announced key evidence that we're interesting a new epoque. it's been used by experts, not everyone has agreed on when it —— whether it is real. scientists said the earth has entered a new geological period influenced heavily by human action. mark my plan is the professor of earth system science at university couege earth system science at university college london. most of us will have seenin college london. most of us will have seen in a textbook, and there are golden spikes that we're all familiar with. the ice age, the meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs. are we saying that the let dinosaurs. are we saying that the 21st century is such a moment. 17 i 21st century is such a moment. ? i think the 21st century is such a moment. i think the most important thing is scientists and social scientist have realised that the impact that humans are having on the planet is so huge that it are having on the planet is so huge thatitis are having on the planet is so huge that it is like we're a geological superpower. we have done the same
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damage to the planet as the movement of plates around or a meteorite impact. and we can look at some of those impacts. we cut down 3 trillion trees. that's half the trees on the planet. we've made enough concrete to cover the whole world's surface in a layer two mm thick. we create and produce 3 million tonnes of plaques plastic every year that ends up in our oceans and even microplastics in our blood. and the one that really kills me is if you take the weight of land mammals, 30%, humans. 8 billion of us. 67% is our livestock and our pets. just 3% of that weight of mammals is the wild animals that david attenborough goes out in films for our enjoyment. that's how much we change the planet. we are in the... ., , ., the... thing that occurs to me is
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this. the... thing that occurs to me is this- why _ the... thing that occurs to me is this- why do _ the... thing that occurs to me is this. why do we _ the... thing that occurs to me is this. why do we need _ the... thing that occurs to me is this. why do we need a - the... thing that occurs to me is| this. why do we need a reference point if we're killing the planet and we're no longer here? i point if we're killing the planet and we're no longer here? i think it's really important _ and we're no longer here? i think it's really important because - and we're no longer here? i think it's really important because it's. it's really important because it's philosophical. if we realise that we are in our own geological period, we are in our own geological period, we are that powerful, that the global environment and the evolutionary destiny of all the organisations on the plan are controlled by us, we can set back and go, ok, do we increase our impact? to reduce our impact? or do we even repair our impact? or do we even repair our impact? do we plant1 trillion trees to undo the damage? it's really important we acknowledge this, and therefore we can make decisions about the home that we live in, our home planet. just about the home that we live in, our home planet-— home planet. just very quickly, is there a best _ home planet. just very quickly, is there a best method _ home planet. just very quickly, is there a best method to _ home planet. just very quickly, is there a best method to capture . home planet. just very quickly, is there a best method to capture a | there a best method to capture a permanent record of the alterations we've made? is there something they're looking at specifically? the
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t-rou they're looking at specifically? the a-rou want they're looking at specifically? tie: group want a line they're looking at specifically? tt9: group want a line in the they're looking at specifically? tt9 group want a line in the sand. in this case, canadian none. they can say it started this year. —— canadian mud. but because it's dispersed around the world, the industrial revolution started in the uk and they spread out and it's still spreading. we think it's a little more, i would say, dispersed than just one line little more, i would say, dispersed thanjust one line in little more, i would say, dispersed than just one line in the sand. but it represents something. it represents our impact on the planet. mark, thanks very much for that. we will be right back. stay with us. good evening. the shower clouds menacing in the menai straits behind me earlier today. it has been a day of contrasts, really. the sunshine between the showers, but when they've come along, we've had some really torrential downpours, lots of thunder and lightning, some hail in there as well. a rather more persistent band of rain still across the north of scotland.
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the showers perhaps fading a little later this evening and overnight across england and wales, but some more persistent rain potentially pushing through northern ireland into southern scotland, again back into north wales and northern england. i think we've lost the humidity, so a more comfortable night for sleeping. but those breezes, that brisk wind will continue to push those showers eastwards overnight and into wednesday with that low pressure close by. perhaps a little respite in the south on thursday, but not for long. the next area of wet and windy weather comes in by the end of the week and then lingers into the weekend. we're set in this trend, really, at the moment of really very unsettled weather. so, wednesday dawning with a little bit of sunshine, but the shower cloud soon gets going and they'll be heavy and frequent across northern ireland, scotland, northern england. and there will be showers further south as well — almost nowhere exempt from them, so when they come along, they will move through on that brisk wind coming from the west or the north—west. so it'll feel fresher, but as i say there is still the chance of some showers disrupting the play
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on wednesday at wimbledon, for example, because they will be coming through on that brisk breeze at times. squally winds and downpours continue into the evening. they fade a little, then, as we head towards thursday morning in southern areas. again, a pleasant night for sleeping having lost that humidity, fairly cool i should imagine in the suburbs, perhaps into single figures. but that ridge of high pressure's really only around in southern areas. still some heavy showers further north. and then, this next area of low pressure pushes back in with some more persistent rain and a bout of strong winds again for friday. but for thursday, again plenty of showers, slow—moving and heavy with the slightly less windy weather in the north. perhaps fewer showers in the south, but there'll still be some around. with a bit more sunshine, temperatures will be a little higher. and then, into friday, as our next area of low pressure winds itself in, it will give another spell of quite heavy and thundery rain, strong winds to go with it and following some heavy showers. and you can see it stays unsettled for the most part into the early part of next week as well.
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