guarantees, declaration on security guarantees, that would — declaration on security guarantees, that would be a specific fact because _ that would be a specific fact because the guarantees says these guarantees will be valid on our way to new _ guarantees will be valid on our way to nato. this is very important, it will be _ to nato. this is very important, it will be a — to nato. this is very important, it will be a very specific signal. as for the — will be a very specific signal. as for the rest _ will be a very specific signal. as for the rest of the points, the secretary—general has mentioned, thank— secretary—general has mentioned, thank you — secretary-general has mentioned, thank ou. , . thank you. there is a full-fledged war auoin thank you. there is a full-fledged war going on _ thank you. there is a full-fledged war going on and _ thank you. there is a full-fledged war going on and there _ thank you. there is a full-fledged war going on and there is - thank you. there is a full-fledged war going on and there is no - war going on and there is no risk—free option for nato allies. but the biggest risk is if present putin wins, because then the message is, when he use military force, when invading a neighbour, he gets what he wants. that is exactly why it is important for nato to support ukraine. it will be a tragedy for ukraine. it will be a tragedy for ukraine if president putin wins, but it will be dangerous for us, making

us more vulnerable. that is the reason why we have been so clear on the following, that ukraine has the right to choose its own path and what kind of security arrangement it once. that is the first line in the paragraph today. and this is a fundamental right. therefore, you can other allow that moscow started to decide who can or cannot be member of nato. russia has been against every part of nato. it is for nato allies and ukraine to decide when to become a member. moscow doesn't have a say on. we are moving ukraine closer to membership, we make the decisions today, which is the most united message on the path towards membership. and of course, we do it knowing moscow will

protest, as they did when finland, sweden or north macedonia joint. ukraine has the right to choose their path, allies will decide, not moscow. , ., , . . . , moscow. just one sentence. what is very important _ moscow. just one sentence. what is very important is — moscow. just one sentence. what is very important is that _ moscow. just one sentence. what is very important is that it _ moscow. just one sentence. what is very important is that it is _ moscow. just one sentence. what is very important is that it is not - very important is that it is not instrument of anticipation, the instrument of anticipation, the instrument of anticipation, the instrument of integration. it will -ive instrument of integration. it will give us — instrument of integration. it will give us such spirit that will be heeded~ — i have two questions, one for the president— i have two questions, one for the president of— i have two questions, one for the president of ukraine, _ i have two questions, one for the president of ukraine, and - i have two questions, one for the president of ukraine, and want . i have two questions, one for the i president of ukraine, and want the secretary—general. _ president of ukraine, and want the secretary-general.— president of ukraine, and want the - secretary-general._ what secretary-general. translation: what do ou secretary-general. translation: what do you exoect —

secretary-general. translation: what do you exoect of — secretary-general. translation: what do you expect of today's _ secretary-general. translation: what do you expect of today's meeting - secretary-general. translation: what do you expect of today's meeting of - do you expect of today's meeting of the g7? _ do you expect of today's meeting of the 67? what — do you expect of today's meeting of the g7? what guarantees _ do you expect of today's meeting of the g7? what guarantees do - do you expect of today's meeting of the g7? what guarantees do you . do you expect of today's meeting of. the g7? what guarantees do you think might— the g7? what guarantees do you think might be _ the g7? what guarantees do you think might be granted _ the g7? what guarantees do you think might be granted to _ the g7? what guarantees do you think might be granted to you? _ the g7? what guarantees do you think might be granted to you? how- the g7? what guarantees do you think might be granted to you? how will- the g7? what guarantees do you think might be granted to you? how will it i might be granted to you? how will it be different— might be granted to you? how will it be different from _ might be granted to you? how will it be different from the _ might be granted to you? how will it be different from the commission i be different from the commission that could — be different from the commission that could be _ be different from the commission that could be blocked _ be different from the commission that could be blocked by- be different from the commission that could be blocked by hungary| be different from the commission . that could be blocked by hungary or any other— that could be blocked by hungary or any other member— that could be blocked by hungary or any other member and _ that could be blocked by hungary or any other member and had - that could be blocked by hungary or any other member and had issues l any other member and had issues function? — any other member and had issues function? technically, _ any other member and had issues function? technically, how- any other member and had issues function? technically, how can . any other member and had issues function? technically, how can iti any other member and had issues l function? technically, how can it be achieved? _ function? technically, how can it be achieved? �* ,, �* function? technically, how can it be achieved?_ its - function? technically, how can it be achieved?_ as for - function? technically, how can it be| achieved?_ as for the achieved? translation: as for the meetin: achieved? translation: as for the meeting today. _ achieved? translation: as for the meeting today. as — achieved? translation: as for the meeting today, as well— achieved? translation: as for the meeting today, as well as _ achieved? translation: as for the meeting today, as well as the - meeting today, as well as the security— meeting today, as well as the security guarantees, i would like to tell you _ security guarantees, i would like to tell you these are not auxiliary aspects, — tell you these are not auxiliary aspects, we don't have real guarantees from our partners. i mean, _ guarantees from our partners. i mean, legally. we have actual guarantees, that is financial, in the form — guarantees, that is financial, in the form of— guarantees, that is financial, in the form of sanctions, assistance and defensive support. that could be the first _ and defensive support. that could be the first legal document that

symbolises the fact that we have a sort of _ symbolises the fact that we have a sort of security umbrella, a document, and later on ukraine will have bilateral documents with every security— have bilateral documents with every security guarantee, and it will cover— security guarantee, and it will cover all— security guarantee, and it will cover all those aspects we have. all those _ cover all those aspects we have. all those aspects we are lacking now, like air— those aspects we are lacking now, like air defence, like aircrafts, like air defence, like aircrafts, like military aircraft. all those aspects — like military aircraft. all those aspects will be considered on a bilateral— aspects will be considered on a bilateral level. besides this document, it will allow the other countries — document, it will allow the other countries tojoin. this document, it will allow the other countries to join. this would be an opportunity— countries to join. this would be an opportunity for other partners to 'oin opportunity for other partners to join as— opportunity for other partners to join as well, and we have started to have conversations with other partners. _ have conversations with other partners, with france, but they are not part—

partners, with france, but they are not part of— partners, with france, but they are not part of the g7. i think that is important — not part of the g7. i think that is important-— important. the council will be shared by _ important. the council will be shared by me. _ important. the council will be shared by me. that _ important. the council will be shared by me. that cannot i important. the council will be j shared by me. that cannot be important. the council will be - shared by me. that cannot be blocked by individual allies or members of the council. it can be convened by individual member states for crisis consultations. if president zelensky wants to convene a meeting, he can do so. we are meeting as equals, we have decided what we will address, including crisis consultations. they can be called by any member of this council. this is something new, something different, a strong political tool for further integration, and also for decision—making. this is one other element in the decision we are taking today to move ukraine closer to nato, and you should all

appreciate it. president zelensky, can i follow on from _ president zelensky, can i follow on from the _ president zelensky, can i follow on from the security— president zelensky, can i follow on from the security guarantees - president zelensky, can i follow on i from the security guarantees issued, because _ from the security guarantees issued, because security— from the security guarantees issued, because security guarantees - from the security guarantees issued, because security guarantees have . because security guarantees have been _ because security guarantees have been a _ because security guarantees have been a place _ because security guarantees have been a place for— because security guarantees have been a place for the _ because security guarantees have been a place for the best - because security guarantees have been a place for the best part - because security guarantees have been a place for the best part of. because security guarantees have l been a place for the best part of 30 years _ been a place for the best part of 30 years. they— been a place for the best part of 30 years. they didn't _ been a place for the best part of 30 years. they didn't prevent - been a place for the best part of 30 years. they didn't prevent 2014, i years. they didn't prevent 2014, 2022~ _ years. they didn't prevent 2014, 2022~ what _ years. they didn't prevent 2014, 2022~ what is— years. they didn't prevent 2014, 2022. what is it _ years. they didn't prevent 2014, 2022. what is it about— years. they didn't prevent 2014, 2022. what is it about the - years. they didn't prevent 2014, l 2022. what is it about the security guarantees — 2022. what is it about the security guarantees that _ 2022. what is it about the security guarantees that will— 2022. what is it about the security guarantees that will make - 2022. what is it about the security guarantees that will make a - guarantees that will make a difference _ guarantees that will make a difference this— guarantees that will make a difference this time, - guarantees that will make a difference this time, do - guarantees that will make a - difference this time, do yourself and a _ difference this time, do yourself and a country. _ difference this time, do yourself and a country, but _ difference this time, do yourself and a country, but to _ difference this time, do yourself and a country, but to the - difference this time, do yourselfi and a country, but to the attitude of the _ and a country, but to the attitude of the russians _ and a country, but to the attitude of the russians and _ and a country, but to the attitude of the russians and latymer - and a country, but to the attitude . of the russians and latymer putin? he's looked — of the russians and latymer putin? he's looked at _ of the russians and latymer putin? he's looked at previous _ of the russians and latymer putin? he's looked at previous guarantees| he's looked at previous guarantees and has _ he's looked at previous guarantees and has ignored _ he's looked at previous guarantees and has ignored them _ he's looked at previous guarantees and has ignored them —— _ he's looked at previous guarantees and has ignored them —— vladimir. and has ignored them —— vladimir putin _ and has ignored them -- vladimir putin. . ,, �* and has ignored them -- vladimir putin-_ thank- and has ignored them -- vladimir putin._ thank you i and has ignored them -- vladimir l putin._ thank you for putin. translation: thank you for the question- _ putin. translation: thank you for the question- i _ putin. translation: thank you for the question. i can _ putin. translation: thank you for the question. i can tell _ putin. translation: thank you for the question. i can tell you - putin. translation: thank you for the question. i can tell you one - the question. i can tell you one thing — the question. i can tell you one thing i— the question. i can tell you one thing. i don't believe... i don't understand _ thing. i don't believe... i don't understand any responsibility provided under the memorandum, there

were no— provided under the memorandum, there were no specifics except for the fact ukraine had this document and was left _ fact ukraine had this document and was left alone with it. we don't see the consequences for violating the document. as for the new document, it should _ document. as for the new document, it should remain valid as long as ukraine — it should remain valid as long as ukraine is— it should remain valid as long as ukraine is not in nato. we understand the best guarantees for ukraine _ understand the best guarantees for ukraine is— understand the best guarantees for ukraine is to be in nato. this is clear— ukraine is to be in nato. this is clear because that is already the examples. i would like to underline once again. — examples. i would like to underline once again, we don't see any member nations— once again, we don't see any member nations of— once again, we don't see any member nations of nato that are at war now, that are _ nations of nato that are at war now, that are dying, suffering, defending their own _ that are dying, suffering, defending their own country. that is why we understand — their own country. that is why we understand the best guarantees for ukraine _ understand the best guarantees for ukraine is— understand the best guarantees for ukraine is to be in nato. 0n understand the best guarantees for ukraine is to be in nato. on our way to nato, _ ukraine is to be in nato. on our way to nato, we— ukraine is to be in nato. on our way to nato, we would like to have the security— to nato, we would like to have the security guarantees and to help them

permanently. so that they would make our relationship to other countries even _ our relationship to other countries even more — our relationship to other countries even more powerful. we would like to have a _ even more powerful. we would like to have a document so the assistant wouldn't — have a document so the assistant wouldn't be based on our personal relationship, but to habit written in the _ relationship, but to habit written in the document and today's framework decoration and security guarantees will open up the possibilities for the strong bilateral documents. we possibilities for the strong bilateral documents. we will take one last question _ bilateral documents. we will take one last question today. - bilateral documents. we will take one last question today. second i bilateral documents. we will take - one last question today. second row. later _ one last question today. second row. later this— one last question today. second row. later this afternoon— one last question today. second row. later this afternoon you _ one last question today. second row. later this afternoon you will - one last question today. second row. later this afternoon you will meet. later this afternoon you will meet with president— later this afternoon you will meet with president biden. _ later this afternoon you will meet with president biden. what- later this afternoon you will meet with president biden. what are i later this afternoon you will meet. with president biden. what are you hoping _ with president biden. what are you hoping to— with president biden. what are you hoping to accomplish _ with president biden. what are you hoping to accomplish in _ with president biden. what are you hoping to accomplish in the - with president biden. what are you . hoping to accomplish in the meeting, and how— hoping to accomplish in the meeting, and how will— hoping to accomplish in the meeting, and how will you _ hoping to accomplish in the meeting, and how will you convince _ hoping to accomplish in the meeting, and how will you convince them - and how will you convince them ukraine — and how will you convince them ukraine is— and how will you convince them ukraine is ready— and how will you convince them ukraine is ready for— and how will you convince them ukraine is ready for nato - ukraine is ready for nato membership? _ ukraine is ready for nato membership? when- ukraine is ready for nato membership? when you| ukraine is ready for nato - membership? when you meet with ukraine is ready for nato _ membership? when you meet with him, beyond _ membership? when you meet with him, beyond the _ membership? when you meet with him, beyond the cluster— membership? when you meet with him, beyond the cluster munitions _ membership? when you meet with him, beyond the cluster munitions the - membership? when you meet with him, beyond the cluster munitions the us - beyond the cluster munitions the us has said _ beyond the cluster munitions the us has said it _ beyond the cluster munitions the us has said it will— beyond the cluster munitions the us has said it will provide, _ beyond the cluster munitions the us has said it will provide, what - beyond the cluster munitions the us has said it will provide, what about i has said it will provide, what about military— has said it will provide, what about military assistance _ has said it will provide, what about military assistance are _ has said it will provide, what about military assistance are you - has said it will provide, what about military assistance are you seeking from them — military assistance are you seeking from them that _ military assistance are you seeking from them that you _ military assistance are you seeking from them that you have _ military assistance are you seeking from them that you have not - military assistance are you seeking from them that you have not yet. from them that you have not yet

received? — from them that you have not yet received? and _ from them that you have not yet received? and for— from them that you have not yet - received? and for secretary—general, how quickly— received? and for secretary—general, how quickly do — received? and for secretary—general, how quickly do you _ received? and for secretary—general, how quickly do you expect _ received? and for secretary—general, how quickly do you expect the - how quickly do you expect the nations— how quickly do you expect the nations to _ how quickly do you expect the nations to provide _ how quickly do you expect the nations to provide the - how quickly do you expect the nations to provide the fighteri how quickly do you expect the - nations to provide the fighterjets that president— nations to provide the fighterjets that president zelensky _ nations to provide the fighterjets that president zelensky has - nations to provide the fighterjets that president zelensky has been| that president zelensky has been asking _ that president zelensky has been asking for? — no, no, answer, please. laughter you can also you can also answer you can also answer and all these three questions. 0k... translation: thank you. i am grateful to president biden and to the congress and to— president biden and to the congress and to the _ president biden and to the congress and to the people of the united states— and to the people of the united states who are truly the leaders in support— states who are truly the leaders in support and assisting ukraine. we appreciate — support and assisting ukraine. we appreciate those. not planning to

find any— appreciate those. not planning to find any arguments for making sure president _ find any arguments for making sure president biden would see us. i believe — president biden would see us. i believe those arguments should be neutral. _ believe those arguments should be neutral, because it is all about the security— neutral, because it is all about the security in— neutral, because it is all about the security in the east, the eastern flank— security in the east, the eastern flank of— security in the east, the eastern flank of nato. i believe nato needs isi'ust_ flank of nato. i believe nato needs isi'ust as _ flank of nato. i believe nato needs isjust as we flank of nato. i believe nato needs is just as we need nato. flank of nato. i believe nato needs isjust as we need nato. i believe this is— isjust as we need nato. i believe this is absolutely fair. i am confident after the war, ukraine will be — confident after the war, ukraine will be in — confident after the war, ukraine will be in nato, will be doing everything possible to make it happen— everything possible to make it happen so that we are with the united — happen so that we are with the united states and would have the same _ united states and would have the same understanding and vision. as for the _ same understanding and vision. as for the cluster munitions, as you call it. _ for the cluster munitions, as you call it. look. _ for the cluster munitions, as you call it, look, there are moments when _ call it, look, there are moments when we — call it, look, there are moments when we have a slight disagreement in small— when we have a slight disagreement in small details. but i would like

to extend — in small details. but i would like to extend words of gratitude to the president — to extend words of gratitude to the president. i know it was a challenge in the _ president. i know it was a challenge in the united states, a challenge in the us— in the united states, a challenge in the us congress, and there were people _ the us congress, and there were people not sharing this support with regards _ people not sharing this support with regards to— people not sharing this support with regards to the cluster innocence. but i _ regards to the cluster innocence. but i wanted to take a look at it from _ but i wanted to take a look at it from a — but i wanted to take a look at it from a different perspective, fairness _ from a different perspective, fairness. russia using cluster munitions— fairness. russia using cluster munitions on our territory, and they are fighting — munitions on our territory, and they are fighting only on our land. they killing _ are fighting only on our land. they killing our— are fighting only on our land. they killing our people, they are using long—range missiles, cluster munitions, on a regular basis. the assistance — munitions, on a regular basis. the assistance we can receive from the us with _ assistance we can receive from the us with regards to the decision on cluster— us with regards to the decision on cluster munitions would make the use of those _ cluster munitions would make the use of those munitions only against military— of those munitions only against military targets, occupied territory of ukraine — military targets, occupied territory of ukraine. this is something that is under— of ukraine. this is something that is under control and won't be used anywhere — is under control and won't be used

anywhere. there has to be a furnace, and it— anywhere. there has to be a furnace, and it isn't— anywhere. there has to be a furnace, and it isn't fair— anywhere. there has to be a furnace, and it isn't fair the aggressor has occupied — and it isn't fair the aggressor has occupied us, has been occupying us, killing _ occupied us, has been occupying us, killing our— occupied us, has been occupying us, killing our people. how can we defend? — killing our people. how can we defend? it is all about fairness. we are defending ourselves, we are defending ourselves by not using weapons — defending ourselves by not using weapons against the territory of other _ weapons against the territory of other states. as for the other support— other states. as for the other support and assistance, we need long—range weapons. this deficit remains. — long—range weapons. this deficit remains, and i will raise this issue — remains, and i will raise this issue. . remains, and i will raise this issue. , ., remains, and i will raise this issue. , . ., .., issue. yesterday, a group of nato allies establish _ issue. yesterday, a group of nato allies establish a _ issue. yesterday, a group of nato allies establish a condition - issue. yesterday, a group of nato allies establish a condition to - allies establish a condition to provide training for f—16 fighter pilots from ukraine. this initiative originally initiated by the netherlands and denmark. i welcome other allies that they have joined in. some preparations have already

taken place, and training will start as soon us. allies have informed us training will start this summer. this is something now happening. last time i saw a list, i think it was ten or perhaps more allies part of this coalition. and they are eager to start as soon as possible. of course, this will then enable a later decision to provide f—165. trading start as soon as possible. let me add, guarantees, documents, meetings are important. but the most urgent task now is to ensure enough weapons to ukraine, to president zelensky and his armed forces. therefore, it has been extremely

important in this meeting that we have seen new announcements from nato allies. france has delivered long—range missiles. germany have announced yesterday a package of more air defence systems and more on vehicles. the united states announced a big package of ammunition, and many other allies have made announcements. the most urgent task is of course you ensure ukraine prevails, because unless they prevail, there is no membership issue to be discussed at all. the messages, we stand by ukraine as for as long as it takes, and the urgent need is to provide weapons they need. . need is to provide weapons they need. , _, . , need is to provide weapons they need. , , ,, need. this concludes the press conference. _ need. this concludes the press conference. they _ need. this concludes the press conference. they will - need. this concludes the press conference. they will now - need. this concludes the press . conference. they will now proceed need. this concludes the press - conference. they will now proceed to the inaugural— conference. they will now proceed to the inaugural meeting _ conference. they will now proceed to the inaugural meeting of— conference. they will now proceed to the inaugural meeting of the - conference. they will now proceed to the inaugural meeting of the nato i the inaugural meeting of the nato council _ the inaugural meeting of the nato council at— the inaugural meeting of the nato council. . , ., the inaugural meeting of the nato council. . . ., the inaugural meeting of the nato council. . . . ., council. a handshake and a hug and in the news — council. a handshake and a hug and in the news conference _ council. a handshake and a hug and in the news conference between - council. a handshake and a hug andj in the news conference between the secretary—general and president

zelensky. just to remind you, some of the things that came out of it, the big question mark is when and whether ukraine will become a member of nato. in the news conference there, president zelensky said that there, president zelensky said that the result of the summit were good, but he said it would have been ideal if there had been an invitation for key tojoin the if there had been an invitation for key to join the alliance. he said nato's recognition not to follow an action plan was important. lots of laughter, some tension as well. the secretary—general saying he looks forward to the day the two nations can meet as allies. just break and news from rishi sunak�*s office, he met president zelensky this morning. he said that rishi sunak agreed with

sir lenski that security arrangements will not be a substitute for nato —— zelensky we will have more coverage from the summit throughout the day, but now let's go to world business report. inflation storm forecast — the bank of england warns there will be consequences from high interest rates but it says uk banks are resilient. life in plastic — it's fantastic! the barbie movie premieres in europe today. we explore why is hollywood betting on movies based on toys. welcome to world business report. we start here in the uk where the bank of england have just released its latest report on the stability of the uk financial system. flagging the need to fight inflation

at front and centre — while recognising that their tool to do so — raising interest rates — has created stress in the financial system. so far the uk economy and banking sector has been resilient — the bank says — but its governor andrew bailey has warned there will be consequences of higher interest rates on borrowers. the report says that average mortgage payments for around a million borrowers are forecast to go up by £500 a month in the next three years. joining me now is independent banking analyst — frances coppola. thank you for being with us today. this full is under the category of a statement of the obvious, doesn't it? i wonder if there was anything new that you saw in the report today? new that you saw in the report toda ? ., . , , , today? not really. they were testing what we expected _ today? not really. they were testing what we expected them _ today? not really. they were testing what we expected them to _ today? not really. they were testing what we expected them to test, - today? not really. they were testing i what we expected them to test, which was the effect of higher inflation, higher interest rates and higher unemployment because that is

unfortunately something the bank of england would like to see, and the effect of a major collapse in house prices. that is public the most severe part of the test and we may not see a housing market collapse on that magnitude but i think we will see following house prices and we are going to see some distresses in the mortgage market because as you mentioned, people who are facing very large increases in their mortgage interest free payments when they repriced their fixed term mortgages. they repriced their fixed term mortgages-— they repriced their fixed term mortgages. inflation at 8.796, remaining _ mortgages. inflation at 8.796, remaining higher— mortgages. inflation at 8.796, remaining higher than - mortgages. inflation at 8.796, remaining higher than we - mortgages. inflation at 8.796, - remaining higher than we expected. those suggesting there was something in yesterday's labour market data which could be a turning point, i wonder what your thoughts are on that? , ., g , wonder what your thoughts are on that? , . . ~ . . that? yesterday's labour market data did su: est that? yesterday's labour market data did suggest that _ that? yesterday's labour market data did suggest that unemployment - that? yesterday's labour market data did suggest that unemployment is i did suggest that unemployment is beginning to tick up and vacancies are falling. if that is true, we might expected to start coming down

wage rises which the bank of england things are fuelling inflation. interest rates remaining high, forecast perhaps to go higher and i wonder how significant you think that warning is in the report that they could be 1 that warning is in the report that they could bei million uk mortgage holders who will have their payments go holders who will have their payments 9° up holders who will have their payments go up by £500 per month over the next three years. what kind of impact could that have on the wider economy? impact could that have on the wider econom ? . ., _ impact could that have on the wider econom ? . , ., _ , economy? that is obviously very ainful economy? that is obviously very painful for _ economy? that is obviously very painful for those _ economy? that is obviously very painful for those concerned - economy? that is obviously very painful for those concerned but. economy? that is obviously very l painful for those concerned but we should bear in mind that only about 30% of homeowners have mortgages at all and of those, people with mortgages of that size are relatively small number and the ten to be concentrated in areas where house prices are very high like london and the south—east so we might see pain there. unfortunately it will hit young people and more recent borrowers. a lot of the rest of the housing market remains fairly undisturbed so i don't think this is going to have a major effect although i do think house prices

will fall significantly in some sectors. i think it is more that the banks will have to think about forbearance and ways of helping people to manage this period of high interest rates so as basically not to have to give up their homes. thank you for drawing us. from the economic issue of the moment to one that will dominate the near future. a new study on the impact of artificial intelligence suggests that more than a quarter ofjobs in developed economies could be easily replaced by bots. the organisation for economic cooperation and develoment — which compiled the report — says there's been little evidence of this impact so far. but that could come as a surprise to workers in one company in india — who've just been told that 90% of the company's support staff have been replaced by an ai chatbot.

we are often told that al we are often told that ai will create job opportunities. we are often told that ai will createjob opportunities. so we are often told that ai will create job opportunities. so far we have only seen evidence ofjob losses it will cause. what are your thoughts? losses it will cause. what are your thou . hts? . losses it will cause. what are your thou~hts? . . losses it will cause. what are your thou~hts? . , ., losses it will cause. what are your thou~hts? . , . losses it will cause. what are your thou~hts? . losses it will cause. what are your thouuhts? ., , thoughts? that is a good point but at the same _ thoughts? that is a good point but at the same time, _ thoughts? that is a good point but at the same time, the _ thoughts? that is a good point but at the same time, the people - thoughts? that is a good point but at the same time, the people we i thoughts? that is a good point but i at the same time, the people we are working with and using ai available to the market, we are finding it is changing theirjobs more than replacing them and in many ways, it is changing theirjobs for the better. is changing their 'obs for the better. , ., . is changing their 'obs for the better. ,., . _, ,. , better. the powerful indian company is uuite a better. the powerful indian company is quite a powerful _ better. the powerful indian company is quite a powerful one. _ better. the powerful indian company is quite a powerful one. the - better. the powerful indian company is quite a powerful one. the boss - is quite a powerful one. the boss there said the ai chat but it had developed was better than its human staff at answering customer queries. based on the technology that is at our fingertips based on the technology that is at ourfingertips right based on the technology that is at our fingertips right now, based on the technology that is at ourfingertips right now, cannot be true? can it be that a button can be more helpful than human? i true? can it be that a button can be more helpfulthan human?- more helpfulthan human? i think will time will — more helpfulthan human? i think will time will tell. _ more helpfulthan human? i think will time will tell. ai _ more helpfulthan human? i think will time will tell. ai has -

more helpfulthan human? i think| will time will tell. ai has improved considerably and what's have become more sophisticated. the human touch is an important thing to recognise, it is important and how important it is to people who are talking to so i think time will tell on that improvement. the content is very good, but it is not human. figs improvement. the content is very good, but it is not human.- good, but it is not human. as you sa , good, but it is not human. as you say. time — good, but it is not human. as you say. time will _ good, but it is not human. as you say, time will tell. _ good, but it is not human. as you say, time will tell. i _ good, but it is not human. as you say, time will tell. i wonder- good, but it is not human. as you say, time will tell. i wonder at. say, time will tell. i wonder at what point in the cycle of transformation you see these opportunities forjob creation being realised? i opportunities for 'ob creation being realised? .. . opportunities for 'ob creation being realised? ~ . , . ., , realised? i think that is already happening _ realised? i think that is already happening and _ realised? i think that is already happening and it _ realised? i think that is already happening and it is _ realised? i think that is already happening and it is happening i realised? i think that is already | happening and it is happening in realised? i think that is already - happening and it is happening in the market now. if you look to the job market, new rules, prompt engineers for example, that is actively being recruited for uk companies today put up recruited for uk companies today put up a prompt engineer is an expert who has expertise in asking the right questions of ai. that mixture the output is as good as it can be

so that prompt engineer is a good example of a neuro that will be created by the wider use of ai. thank you for sharing your analysis with us today. the new barbie movie gets its european premier tonight. and if blonde dolls are not your cup of tea, there are 45 more toy—based movies to come. mattel, which owns barbie, is raiding its stable for the big screen with movies based on toy brands such as polly pocket and hot wheels, in the works. what marvel did for superheroes, mattel is hoping to do for toys, as michelle fleury reports from new york. the real world. it's the summer of barbie. a chance to relive your childhood with one of the most hotly anticipated movies of the season. and my heels are on the ground. at the star—studded la premiere, actor and producer margot robbie channelled her inner barbie, expressing surprise

at the warm reception. i'm even shocked. yeah, very shocked. and every barbie needs a ken. this one played by actor ryan gosling. look around. you know, it's this is it's pretty unique. not if mattel�*s business plan succeeds because it reportedly has 45 films in development based on its huge catalogue of toys like hot wheels, barney the dinosaur and polly pocket, each with some big names attached to direct. increasingly, studios and streamers are really looking for existing intellectual property concepts and characters that audiences are already familiar with as a kind of incentive or an assurance that they will actually show up to watch the thing when it comes out. marvel cinematic universe is the most successful franchise in the world, followed by star wars, both owned by disney. marvel has done for superheroes. mattel wants to do for toys, but can it pull it off? you know, that's certainly an aspirational model for them. i think they're looking to that

and saying we want to have this franchising potential. i think something like he—man, you know, they're hoping that that could yield many films and tv shows and all the rest of it. but i don't think you're going to see a crossover between boba and polly pocket anytime soon. the hype, the merch and barbies, bubble gum pink is everywhere. this summer here in manhattan, anyone can take their turn in barbie land thanks to this pop up barbie cafe. it's all part of mattel�*s strategy to turn a company that makes toys into a company that manages film franchises. we have tickets for opening night. so what do these barbie superfans think of mattel�*s hollywood dreams? would you see a hot wheels movie? i would. i have two little boys, so we would be right there at opening night. i think if theyjust keep on with the the way that they've been going, the track that they've been on, i think that they have definitely a good opportunity to make other successful movies. what's your advice to mattel that

keep the core, keep the heart of it, and then you could broaden it, but don't don't lose sight of why this is so successful. did you do this to me? no. max, your father gave you these powers. - i'm just here to show| you how to use them. but mattel has been here before. anyone remember max steel, the 2016 superhero movie based on its action figures? the film bombed. the toymaker is hoping for a happier ending this go around. michelle fleury, bbc news, new york. keep in touch with the @bbcbusiness team and me on social media. i'm @tadthnright. until next time on world business report, it's goodbye.

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the quarterfinal action at wimbledon continues today. let us start with the repeat of the 2022 final. she has been the repeat of the 2022 final. sue: has been keeping the the repeat of the 2022 final. si2 has been keeping the rose water trophy as her wallpaper on her phone. just a reminder of the defeat last year and together that extra bit of motivation that this is the year that she plans that title but she wants more than any other and that wimbledon champion. but rowena stands in her way. the defending champion and the third seed has looked vulnerable here at times. she did come into it with a virus but that big serve that she has got, she looks in good shape now. but she has blown away pretty much every

opponent. trying to make history, the first tunisian trying to win a major, that is what she wants. she calls herself the minister of happiness, she says her tennis brings peoplejoy. it will happiness, she says her tennis brings people joy. it will be a variety of styles and we look forward to that one on centre. on court one, we will see the other quarterfinal. the playerfrom belarus, if she reaches the final, she will be the women's number one. she reached the semifinals here two years ago. her dad said the dream was for her to be a multiple grand slam champion in the world number one by the time she was 25. she is 25, just william roache and so can she add wimbledon to it? madison keys who won the eastbourne title did play her going into the championships are couple of years

ago, winning the berlin title then. on the men's side, top seed player is an action but arguably, the more intriguing game is on court one today as the american chris eubanks aims to extend his run? what today as the american chris eubanks aims to extend his run?— aims to extend his run? what a sto , aims to extend his run? what a story. cuesta — aims to extend his run? what a story, cuesta four, _ aims to extend his run? what a story, cuesta four, 27 - aims to extend his run? what a story, cuesta four, 27 years - aims to extend his run? what a | story, cuesta four, 27 years old, this time last year, well of the world top 100 and now he is a wimbledon quarterfinalist. he is the world number 43. wimbledon quarterfinalist. he is the world number43. he wimbledon quarterfinalist. he is the world number 43. he has won the majorca title on grass going into the championships. he called the grass surface stupid. daniel, who he plays today, and us open champion, but get your popcorn out for carlos

and augher because that is the one we are all looking forward to on centre court. the first time that 220—year—old men have played each other. the world number six who won a major title earlier this year, and he was asked which one of the shots would he like and he said, absolutely none of them. i trust my game. it should be sitting. mr; game. it should be sitting. my --ocorn game. it should be sitting. my popcorn is ready. the women's ashes continues in an hour, the first of 31 day international is to take place in bristol. australia lead the series 6-4 bristol. australia lead the series 6—4 meaning and cannot afford to any of the rimini matches if they are to make history and when the ashes. england don't have the best record against the aussies but there are reasons to be positive. idem; against the aussies but there are reasons to be positive. very much so.

reasons to be positive. very much so- australia _ reasons to be positive. very much so. australia are _ reasons to be positive. very much so. australia are the _ reasons to be positive. very much so. australia are the t20 - reasons to be positive. very much so. australia are the t20 world i reasons to be positive. very muchl so. australia are the t20 world and commonwealth children champions but were stunned by and in those last two matches. the confidence and momentum, very much with the home side right now. they want to disrupt australia still according to their captain. australia have won their last 15 in their longer format. they have had to do some soul—searching but expect an emphatic response from them this afternoon. an idea of what they are up against, when england trained here yesterday, it was glorious weather. when australia came out in the afternoon, the heavens opened, so for them, when it rains, it really does pour. we have had a brief shower in the last 20 minutes as well. we will be under way, whether permitting, at 1pm. world records continue to be made on day five of the world power athletics championships in paris. china and the usa are battling it out for the number one spot.

usa's out for the number one spot. usa's brenda clark made history this morning, breaking the world record in the t20 for hundred metres. that is for athletes with intellectual impairments. and now a three—time world champion and two—time paralympic champion is very much following in her mother's footsteps, who won a silver medal at the olympics in montreal in 1976 and was here today cheering on her daughter. we will also say the norwegian athlete, known as the world's fastest pa ra—athlete. athlete, known as the world's fastest para—athlete. he holds the world record for 100 metres in a time of 10.37 seconds. that final is on if you hours. anti—discrimination organisation, kick it out, have released worrying statistics from last season's football campaign that suggests unacceptable behaviour is very much on the rise. the premier league through to the grassroots football. kick it out have received a record

number of reports from last season. a rise of over trusty 5% on the previous season with racism remaining the most commonly reported form of discrimination. the figures do suggest that fans are more likely to report abuse than four years ago. stay up—to—date with everything happening at wimbledon and the women's ashes by heading over to the website. but from me and the rest of the team, thank you for watching, goodbye. this is bbc news.

to meet another individual he made on a dating site. jeremy vine has said the tv presenter has reached a dangerous point and says he must identify himself. another day of damaging headlines for the bbc and a male presenter who is still unnamed. this morning's front page of the sun — 'bbc star broke lockdown to meet another young stranger'. this individual has told the newspaper the presenter travelled to another county to meet them in february 2021. this was during the third national lockdown. the sun says it has seen messages which suggest that, as well as visiting the 23—year—old's home, the presenter in question sent them money and asked for a photograph. the individual says he sent a semi—naked picture. it quotes the source as saying... "he was always asking to meet

and ifound it quite pressuring. there were restrictions and i kept getting stricter, but the constantly asked." the bbc has not been able to independently check these latest allegations. it was in may when the initial complaint about the presenter was made to the bbc from the parents of a young person who say their child received thousands for sexually explicit images. questions remain about the length of time it took to take action. the bbc boss says that will be looked at. as director—general i want to make sure and look at a couple of things, actually. the first thing is immediately, do we raise the red flags quick enough on complaints of this nature? and the second is, the processes and protocols. there may well be some learnings from this case. there are further allegations too about the presenter sending abusive messages to another person he met on a dating app. this person has told the bbc it happened when they hinted they would

identify the presenter online. they said the messages, which have been seen and verified by bbc news, had frightened them, and they are still scared. it's much easier to dismiss one complaint than it is to dismiss two complaints, than it is to dismiss three complaints. and so, this certainly does put pressure on the bbc presenter to respond. the radio 2 presenter jeremy vine said he thinks the presenter involved should come forward, saying new allegations will result in more vitriol being thrown at perfectly innocent colleagues, adding that the bbc was on its knees over the claims. we still have not heard from the presenter. we don't know when, or even if, we will. but the pressure is piling, with no resolution in sight. charlotte gallagher, bbc news.

in a rare visit, the palestinian president mahmoud abbas is injenin in the occupied west bank, where israel carried out a major military operation last week. this was his arrival amid tight security. many ofjenin's residents denounced the palestinian authority for its failure to take any action during the israeli raid. although the palestinian authority is nominally in control of security injenin, it holds little sway in the city. the refugee camp there is controlled by several militant groups, which were the target of the israeli offensive. the celebrated czech—born brighter, milan kundera — who's best known for his novel the unbearable lightness of being — has died at the age of 94. kundera left what was then czechoslovakia in the mid—19705 amid repression by the soviet—backed government and relocated to france. he became a french citizen after being stripped of his homeland's citizenship, although this was restored four years ago. his international fame grew when the unbearable lightness of being was made into a film. he was mentioned as a potential

nobel laureate, and was shortlisted more on all those stories on the website including eight live page we are running with all the latest updates from that nato summit in the lithuanian capital. we also have a life page on the latest update on the bbc presenter story. stay without here on bbc news. the weather for the next few days up until the weekend remains unsettled. low pressure is firmly in charge of our weather. today is anchored to the north—east of us. we can see from the isobars it will be a blustery day. this weather front really enhancing the sherry outbreaks of rain across northern ireland, northern england and southern scotland. we also have a

weak weather front moving south across scotland but generally, the forecast for today is one of sunshine and showers. not all of us will catch one. for wimbledon, while it looks very much like we're not immune to a shower or two, notjust this afternoon, but also into the evening, but they should move through quite quickly on the blustery winds now through this evening and overnight. we start off with a lot of showers, but some of them will fade overnight and clear skies. it's going to be chilly. the wind will drop away and chilliest will be across scotland and northern ireland where in rural areas the temperatures could fall away as low as six, seven or eight degrees. but generally in towns and cities, we're looking at ten to about 14 degrees. so on thursday, we still have that weak weather front across scotland, but we have a ridge of high pressure building across us. it's going to be fairly transient and it will be replaced by low pressure again on friday. but on thursday, a lot of dry weather, there will still be some showers around. we've still got that weak

weatherfront, remember, too, across scotland. but as the ridge builds in through the day, especially across wales and northern england, it should dry out and you should have lengthy spells of sunshine, much lighter winds, temperatures, 14 to 22 degrees. and if you're in the sun, that will feel quite pleasant. but on thursday night into friday, here comes the next area of low pressure. the timing of this could change, but it looks like it's going to bring in some wet and windy weather, not just on friday, but also into saturday as well. so after a dry start in the east on friday, here comes the rain. some of that will be heavy, pushing northwards and eastwards, windy wherever you are. but the strongest winds will be with exposure out towards the west. and these are temperatures, 15 to 20 degrees. we think the rain getting into the southeast later. but if you have outdoor plans, do keep watching the weather forecast. the wind will become a feature of the weather through the weekend and once again, it remains unsettled.

this is bbc news it is time now to cross to the commons where prime minister's questions about to get under way. oliver dowden is facing labour deputy leader because rishi sunak is at the nato summit in vilnius. he is meeting with president zelensky of

ukraine earlier today. we are expecting a press conference from rishi sunak at about two o'clock. when the premises questions finishes we will get analysis from the politics live team. new members have taken their seats in the house. i will hand you over now to the commons. i will hand you over now to the commons-— will hand you over now to the commons. . , . ,~' ., will hand you over now to the commons. . , . ., , , commons. i have been asked to reply, ulobal oil commons. i have been asked to reply, global oil prices _ commons. i have been asked to reply, global oil prices have _ commons. i have been asked to reply, global oil prices have remained - global oil prices have remained largely stable this year. this has not changed following the announcement of additional production cuts by saudi arabia and russia. we expect the impact of the cuts to be mitigated by the increase in supply from other producers and a decrease in global oil demand as we have seen previously.— have seen previously. future price rises we need _ have seen previously. future price rises we need to _ have seen previously. future price rises we need to invest _ have seen previously. future price rises we need to invest in - have seen previously. future price rises we need to invest in a - have seen previously. future price. rises we need to invest in a greener future~ _

rises we need to invest in a greener future the — rises we need to invest in a greener future. the united states gets its. they have — future. the united states gets its. they have committed 370 billion net zero energy. the eu are set to match that figure _ zero energy. the eu are set to match that figure. scotland, we get it, we have the _ that figure. scotland, we get it, we have the ambition to lead the world on renewable energy. we have the energy— on renewable energy. we have the energy but — on renewable energy. we have the energy but we do not have the power. why is _ energy but we do not have the power. why is westminster trying to block scotland's plath to a safer and greener— scotland's plath to a safer and greener future. we scotland's plath to a safer and greener future.— scotland's plath to a safer and greener future. we of course will continue to _ greener future. we of course will continue to invest _ greener future. we of course will continue to invest in _ greener future. we of course will continue to invest in renewablesl greener future. we of course will i continue to invest in renewables but i would say to the party opposite that we should also invest in our energy independence and that means investing in the north sea. if we fail to invest in the north sea we will be more reliant on foreign producers and we will have a higher calibre emissions as we import from elsewhere. . , ., calibre emissions as we import from elsewhere. ,, , ., ., ~ elsewhere. question to mr speaker. thank ou elsewhere. question to mr speaker. thank you mr _ elsewhere. question to mr speaker. thank you mr speaker. _

elsewhere. question to mr speaker. thank you mr speaker. my - elsewhere. question to mr speaker. thank you mr speaker. my right i thank you mr speaker. my right honourable _ thank you mr speaker. my right honourable friend _ thank you mr speaker. my right honourable friend the _ thank you mr speaker. my right honourable friend the prime i thank you mr speaker. my right i honourable friend the prime minister is in vilnius attending the nato summit. this summit is an opportunity to build on the work we have done over the past year, strengthening nato, and supporting ukraine. mr speaker in addition to my meetings in this house i shall have further meetings later today. new labour is old mantra used to be education education. it's new one seems to be tax education tax education, tax education. does the deputy prime minister show my disgust at labours plans to tax education of choice which could lead to 40,000 pupils being sent into the state sector with the cost to the taxpayer. i have a number of english language schools in my constituency and are concerned that this will apply to them as well. as well as out of hours tuition and additional

training. does the deputy prime minister object of these measures as strongly as i do? yes minister object of these measures as strongly as i do?— strongly as i do? yes well once aaain we strongly as i do? yes well once again we have _ strongly as i do? yes well once again we have seen _ strongly as i do? yes well once again we have seen from i strongly as i do? yes well once again we have seen from the l strongly as i do? yes well once i again we have seen from the labour party then putting the politics of envy above the interests of children in this country. as my honourable friend rightly highlights recent analysis shows this could lead to over 14,000 pupils leaving the school that they are in and placing further burdens on existing schools and costing £300 million.- and costing £300 million. angela ra ner. and costing £300 million. angela rayner- thank— and costing £300 million. angela rayner. thank you _ and costing £300 million. angela rayner. thank you mr _ and costing £300 million. angela rayner. thank you mr speaker i i and costing £300 million. angela i rayner. thank you mr speaker i know you are a keen historian so i looked up you are a keen historian so i looked up the last time a prime minister missed two sessions in a row with other engagements which was march 1996. i am very proud to be filling

the boots of lord john prescott but i think it is safe to say he has no hassle mr speaker. why is it that john prescott asked that in tory britain tens of thousands of families are facing repossession, negative equity, and homelessness. can he tell us, 27 years later, why am having to ask the same question again? am having to ask the same question auain? . , am having to ask the same question atain? ., , ., ., .,, again? clearly the right honourable lad did again? clearly the right honourable lady did not — again? clearly the right honourable lady did not listen _ again? clearly the right honourable lady did not listen to _ again? clearly the right honourable lady did not listen to my _ again? clearly the right honourable lady did not listen to my previous . lady did not listen to my previous comments. the prime minister is at nato, of course. that would not be a problem if she had had her way. her old boss wanted to abandon ukraine, abolish the army, and withdraw from nato. he certainly would not be going to any summit mr speaker. when it comes to house—building, i will take no lectures from the party

opposite on home ownership. my parents would not have been able to buy their own home if it were not for margaret thatcher and the reforms introduced by her government and this government is building on those with record house—building. mr those with record house—building. iii speaker, those with record house—building. m speaker, i think he is taking lessons from the former prime minister on telling the facts. the last labour government worked hard to dramatically reduce the number of children in temporary accommodation. under the tories the number of homeless children has risen by 70 5%. i am homeless children has risen by 70 5%. lam proud homeless children has risen by 70 5%. i am proud of our record on tackling child poverty. does the right honourable gentleman feel shame for his? i right honourable gentleman feel shame for his?— right honourable gentleman feel shame for his? i will tell you what this government _ shame for his? i will tell you what this government has _ shame for his? i will tell you what this government has done, - shame for his? i will tell you what this government has done, we i shame for his? i will tell you what i this government has done, we have lifted 400,000 children out of child poverty, we have introduced the

national living wage, something the party opposite totally failed to do and increase the national living wage by the largest amount ever meaning £1800 for working people and cutting the taxes by doubling the personal allowance. that is the surest way to ensure we lift people out of poverty and would never have happened with the party opposite. mr happened with the party opposite. m speaker it is like the ghost of prime minister past is still here. i tell the right honourable gentleman that he should be careful about the stats he uses because the children commissioner warned the other prime minister about paddling false narrative on child poverty around those figures. the truth is, rising bills and soaring... and plummeting wages are pushing more families to the brink. those who are already struggling are being hit hardest by the tory mortgage bombshell and

rising food costs. can he tell us how many primary schoolchildren have been pushed into poverty since his government took power? i been pushed into poverty since his government took power?— been pushed into poverty since his government took power? i would say to the riuht government took power? i would say to the right honourable _ government took power? i would say to the right honourable lady, i government took power? i would say to the right honourable lady, it- government took power? i would say to the right honourable lady, it is. to the right honourable lady, it is this party, not the party opposite which extended free school meals to all five, six, and seven—year—olds. something the party opposite failed to do. it sits along many measures that we are taking to help people with the cost of living. we are paying half of the families energy bills last winter. funded by our 75% windfall tax. we are freezing fuel duty, helping families with and delivering on our pledge to reduce the debt. it made come as a surprise the debt. it made come as a surprise the right honourable lady that balancing the books means more than working out how many more millions to take from her union... mr speaker

he talks about _ to take from her union... mr speaker he talks about balancing _ to take from her union... mr speaker he talks about balancing the - to take from her union... mr speaker he talks about balancing the books. i he talks about balancing the books. his party crashed the economy. he seems to be completely oblivious to what it is like for working people in this country at the moment. new research out today shows that 400,000 more primary school age children are growing up in poverty since his comment came to office. why does he think that is? i will why does he think that is? i will take absolutely _ why does he think that is? i will take absolutely no _ why does he think that is? i will take absolutely no lectures i take absolutely no lectures whatsoever from the party opposite about how we help children in the most need. it is record investment from this government in education, £2 billion more this year, £2 billion next year which is giving those very children the best possible start in life. ensuring that we have the highest reading standards in the western world. i have to say to the honourable lady.

her leader says he hates tree huggers. they seem very keen on hugging that magic money tree. mr speaker, he does not even acknowledge it yet alone explain why child poverty is rising. what hope has a got of solving it? let me try a simple question for him. how many kids do not have a permanent address today compared to when they left office in 2010. latte today compared to when they left office in 2010.— today compared to when they left office in 2010. we can exchange all these numbers, _ office in 2010. we can exchange all these numbers, mr— office in 2010. we can exchange all these numbers, mr speaker, i office in 2010. we can exchange all these numbers, mr speaker, these office in 2010. we can exchange all- these numbers, mr speaker, these are these numbers, mr speaker, these are the numbers that matter. there are 1.7 million fewer people in absolute

poverty under this government. 400,000 fewer children, 200,000 fewer pensioners, and 1 million fewer pensioners, and 1 million fewer people of working age because the single best route out of poverty is a job and record numbers of people, 4 million more, have got a job. that is the difference between this party and the party opposite who always leave office with unemployment higher. who always leave office with unemlo ment hither. ~ ., . , , unemployment higher. what matters is what --eole unemployment higher. what matters is what people feel _ unemployment higher. what matters is what people feel every _ unemployment higher. what matters is what people feel every single _ unemployment higher. what matters is what people feel every single day i unemployment higher. what matters is what people feel every single day at i what people feel every single day at the moment you are going to work and can't afford their mortgage, can't afford the rent, and can't afford their bills because of this conservative government. there are 55,000 more children without a permanent address today compared to when they took office 13 years ago, we have gone from a labour cabinet

that focused on tackling child poverty to tory ministers who will not admit the problem. just like question time in march 1996 they can only offer excuses are not answers. lord john prescott said to lord michael heseltine that day, how can the right honourable gentleman be so complacent in the face of symmetry created by his governments policies, 27 years on why are we asking the same questions? mr speaker, i know there is a reshuffle coming up on the other side but this audition forjohn prescott is old job is getting a little bit... it is this government that has lifted 400,000 children out

of poverty. the party opposite, i hear the honourable lady claiming to be the party of working people, but under their policies able can't even get to work. they support just to stop oil protesters for blocking our roads. they support the union... of course they support the hated you lads stopping cars across our capital. while conservative. labour are standing in everybody�*s way. given the mansion house compact does not encourage — given the mansion house compact does not encourage our— given the mansion house compact does not encourage our pension _ given the mansion house compact does not encourage our pension funds - given the mansion house compact does not encourage our pension funds to i not encourage our pension funds to invest— not encourage our pension funds to invest specifically— not encourage our pension funds to invest specifically in _ not encourage our pension funds to invest specifically in british - invest specifically in british companies _ invest specifically in british companies what _ invest specifically in british companies what more i invest specifically in british companies what more cani invest specifically in british i companies what more can the government— companies what more can the government to _ companies what more can the government to do _ companies what more can the government to do to - companies what more can the i government to do to encourage greater— government to do to encourage greater investment _ government to do to encourage greater investment in - government to do to encourage greater investment in our- government to do to encourage - greater investment in our companies. especially— greater investment in our companies.

especially the — greater investment in our companies. especially the climate _ greater investment in our companies. especially the climate technology- especially the climate technology start-ups — especially the climate technology start—ups which _ especially the climate technology start—ups which are _ especially the climate technology start—ups which are increasingly. start—ups which are increasingly going _ start—ups which are increasingly going abroad _ start—ups which are increasingly going abroad to _ start—ups which are increasingly going abroad to find _ start—ups which are increasingly going abroad to find the - start—ups which are increasinglyj going abroad to find the funding they require _ going abroad to find the funding they require to _ going abroad to find the funding they require to be _ going abroad to find the funding they require to be benefit - going abroad to find the funding they require to be benefit of- going abroad to find the funding they require to be benefit of our competitors _ they require to be benefit of our competitors l— they require to be benefit of our competitors-— they require to be benefit of our cometitors. ~' , ., ., . , competitors. i think my honourable friend raises _ competitors. i think my honourable friend raises an _ competitors. i think my honourable friend raises an important - competitors. i think my honourable friend raises an important point i friend raises an important point about start—up capital and ensuring that we get more money to high—growth companies. i would say that the chancellors pension compact is a very important step forward and will unlock £75 billion of additional investment. i'm quite convinced large amounts of that will go to uk companies and that sits along side measures such as the edinburgh reforms to financial services, again which will improve financial services in this country and unlock money for those industries. £1 and unlock money for those industries.— and unlock money for those industries. ,, ~ ., industries. q mr speaker, last month the deu industries. q mr speaker, last month the deputy prime _ industries. q mr speaker, last month the deputy prime minister— industries. q mr speaker, last month the deputy prime minister warnings i the deputy prime minister warnings from these benches that mortgage rates were merely back to where they were after the disastrous money budget. this week mortgage rates

have surpassed those levels. how high do they need to go before him and government take them seriously? mr speaker, the honourable lady knows that people around the world know, the driver of higher mortgage rates is higher inflation and higher inflation is caused by russia's invasion of ukraine and the post—covert supply chains. what we have to do is make sure we halve inflation. it is only by getting inflation. it is only by getting inflation under control that we will be able to get mortgage rates down and that requires discipline. discipline on spending. discipline on is public—sector play and discipline on energy supply. all of which is lacking from that party. predict that mortgage payments will rise by at least £500 for 1 predict that mortgage payments will rise by at least £500 fori million

households. the prime minister says that people need to hold their nerve, the chancellor said last night that mortgage holders should shop around. speaking of his own party the memberfor shop around. speaking of his own party the member for south—west devon said if the circus does not stop by christmas it is over. does the deputy prime minister understand that people cannot wait until this mess and they need help right now. mr speaker, the fundamental thing that we have to do is to halve inflation. that is an approach which the imf quote which strongly endorses. higher inflation draw... that is not all we are doing. with the mortgage charter signed up by 90% of mortgage providers we are giving people help to extend their terms, to go interest only, and to reduce their monthly payments. but action is supported by martin lewis,

action is supported by martin lewis, a real money saving expert, unlike the big spenders on those benches. last year i visited abbey fieldhouse and i last year i visited abbey fieldhouse and i was _ last year i visited abbey fieldhouse and i was pressed by this model for living _ and i was pressed by this model for living for— and i was pressed by this model for living for older people which gave them _ living for older people which gave them the — living for older people which gave them the independence of a self—contained flat and eat and socialise — self—contained flat and eat and socialise together. i was deeply concerned that there is a consultation and a way to close the house _ consultation and a way to close the house and — consultation and a way to close the house and i— consultation and a way to close the house and i went back to speak to old people. they unanimously want to stay there _ old people. they unanimously want to stay there. abbeyfield is atrial charity— stay there. abbeyfield is atrial charity which the king has been patron— charity which the king has been patron for— charity which the king has been patron for 40 years. it cannot meet the cost — patron for 40 years. it cannot meet the cost of— patron for 40 years. it cannot meet the cost of updating the state to meet _ the cost of updating the state to meet environmental standards. will my right _ meet environmental standards. will my right honourable friend meet with me to _ my right honourable friend meet with me to see _ my right honourable friend meet with me to see what support they can give to abbeyfield so the residents don't have to _ to abbeyfield so the residents don't have to leave their homes. mr seaker have to leave their homes. mr speaker l _ have to leave their homes. m speaker i am very happy to give my honourable friend that assurance. i

would know that we have provided 7.5 billion pounds of additional funding and discharge on energy. we have got and discharge on energy. we have got and energies advice service to support smaller businesses and we are piloting a new audio and grant scheme which may help. in are piloting a new audio and grant scheme which may help. in january, emily booked _ scheme which may help. in january, emily booked an _ scheme which may help. in january, emily booked an appointment i scheme which may help. in january, emily booked an appointment with i scheme which may help. in january, | emily booked an appointment with a local dentist in somerset. only two beasts _ local dentist in somerset. only two beasts told that by the end of may beasts told that by the end of may be surgery had closed in april. emily— be surgery had closed in april. emily no— be surgery had closed in april. emily no longer had a dentist, all the remaining surgeries aren't taking — the remaining surgeries aren't taking on— the remaining surgeries aren't taking on new patients. emily does not know— taking on new patients. emily does not know what to do. can the deputy prime _ not know what to do. can the deputy prime minister tell emily and millions— prime minister tell emily and millions of people like her, one then— millions of people like her, one then they— millions of people like her, one then they can get an appointment with the _ then they can get an appointment with the local nhs dentist? the ri . ht with the local nhs dentist? ti2 right honourable gentleman to mist but our nhs workforce plan is

investing an extra £2.4 billion into training and retaining crucial nhs staff including dentists and gp's. the number of dentist will rise by 40% and i will say to people across that constituency that the best way they can ensure better services for their nhs is to vote for the conservative candidate. could be deu conservative candidate. could be deputy prime — conservative candidate. could be deputy prime minister— conservative candidate. could be deputy prime minister tallis i conservative candidate. could be| deputy prime minister tallis when conservative candidate. could be i deputy prime minister tallis when we can expect allocations from living up can expect allocations from living up around three and will it be true to the premises pledged that all parts of the country will benefit including the south—east and particularly the deserving town of andover? this particularly the deserving town of andover? �* . particularly the deserving town of andover? . , . , , ., andover? as well as being an excellent _ andover? as well as being an excellent minister _ andover? as well as being an excellent minister i _ andover? as well as being an excellent minister i know- andover? as well as being an excellent minister i know i i excellent minister i know i committed my right honourable friend is to andover. we will shortly be announcing a new approach to the

third round and further details of this will follow shortly. mr speaker. _ this will follow shortly. m speaker, there are some things you would encounter certain to horrify or appal or sicken you but i do not think i have ever seen anything quite so grotesque as the painting over of mickey mouse as was done by the home office in a detention centre in kent. no minister so far as wrote the necessary compassion to speak out about this. can i ask the deputy prime minister to look into the deeper recesses of his soul and simply condemn it? i the deeper recesses of his soul and simply condemn it?— simply condemn it? i will tell the honourable _ simply condemn it? i will tell the honourable gentleman _ simply condemn it? i will tell the honourable gentleman what i simply condemn it? i will tell the honourable gentleman what real| honourable gentleman what real compassion looks like and that means stopping the people smuggling trade across the channel, condemning women and children to death. this government is taking action to deal

with it with our stop the boats bill and that party shamefully, 80 times last night, voted against it. it's on these benches we know of is the party— on these benches we know of is the party of— on these benches we know of is the party of aspiration _ on these benches we know of is the party of aspiration the _ on these benches we know of is the party of aspiration the importance i party of aspiration the importance of home _ party of aspiration the importance of home ownership. _ party of aspiration the importance of home ownership. according i party of aspiration the importance of home ownership. according toi party of aspiration the importance i of home ownership. according to a recent— of home ownership. according to a recent estimate _ of home ownership. according to a recent estimate by— of home ownership. according to a recent estimate by barclays - of home ownership. according to a recent estimate by barclays bank i of home ownership. according to a| recent estimate by barclays bank it now takes — recent estimate by barclays bank it now takes an — recent estimate by barclays bank it now takes an average _ recent estimate by barclays bank it now takes an average of _ recent estimate by barclays bank it now takes an average of eight i recent estimate by barclays bank it| now takes an average of eight years for the _ now takes an average of eight years for the first — now takes an average of eight years for the first time _ now takes an average of eight years for the first time buyer— now takes an average of eight years for the first time buyer to _ now takes an average of eight years for the first time buyer to save i now takes an average of eight years for the first time buyer to save for. for the first time buyer to save for a deposit — for the first time buyer to save for a deposit in — for the first time buyer to save for a deposit. in parts _ for the first time buyer to save for a deposit. in parts of— for the first time buyer to save for a deposit. in parts of london i for the first time buyer to save for a deposit. in parts of london on . for the first time buyer to save for. a deposit. in parts of london on the south-east— a deposit. in parts of london on the south-east it — a deposit. in parts of london on the south—east it can _ a deposit. in parts of london on the south—east it can be _ a deposit. in parts of london on the south—east it can be longer- a deposit. in parts of london on the south—east it can be longer than- south—east it can be longer than that _ south—east it can be longer than that what — south—east it can be longer than that what is _ south—east it can be longer than that. what is the _ south—east it can be longer than that. what is the deputy- south—east it can be longer than that. what is the deputy prime. that. what is the deputy prime minister— that. what is the deputy prime minister doing _ that. what is the deputy prime minister doing and— that. what is the deputy prime minister doing and the - that. what is the deputy prime - minister doing and the government doing _ minister doing and the government doing to _ minister doing and the government doing to improve _ minister doing and the government doing to improve the _ minister doing and the government doing to improve the prospects- minister doing and the government doing to improve the prospects for| doing to improve the prospects for younger— doing to improve the prospects for younger people _ doing to improve the prospects for younger people who _ doing to improve the prospects for younger people who want - doing to improve the prospects for younger people who want to - doing to improve the prospects for younger people who want to own i doing to improve the prospects for- younger people who want to own their own homes? — younger people who want to own their own homes? [— younger people who want to own their own homes?— younger people who want to own their own homes? i know what a passionate chamion own homes? i know what a passionate champion of— own homes? i know what a passionate champion of this _ own homes? i know what a passionate champion of this issue _ own homes? i know what a passionate champion of this issue my _ own homes? i know what a passionate champion of this issue my honourable| champion of this issue my honourable friend is. it is actually the case that 850,000 households have been helped to purchase a home since 2010. in 2021 the number of people getting onto the property ladderfor

the first time was at a 20 year high. thanks to initiatives such as first homes and the help to buy scheme. of course that stands in contrast to the party opposite who sold the lowest level of house—building since the 19205. sold the lowest level of house-building since the 1920s. many of my constituents _ house-building since the 1920s. many of my constituents find _ house—building since the 1920s. many of my constituents find they can get their best _ of my constituents find they can get their best value by going to the staff— their best value by going to the staff ticket office at their local station — staff ticket office at their local station. it is why so many of them have _ station. it is why so many of them have signed — station. it is why so many of them have signed a petition... and i asked — have signed a petition... and i asked the _ have signed a petition... and i asked the deputy prime minister, is the closure — asked the deputy prime minister, is the closure of ticket offices another _ the closure of ticket offices another cost of living bombshell to my hard—working another cost of living bombshell to my hard-workin— another cost of living bombshell to my hard-workin- it l another cost of living bombshell to | my hard-workin- it is my hard-working constituents. it is im ortant my hard-working constituents. it is important that _ my hard-working constituents. it is important that the _ my hard-working constituents. it is important that the railways - my hard-working constituents. it is| important that the railways continue to reform after the record amount of money and gave them drink a bit. i would say to the honourable lady that if she is concerned about her constituents getting anywhere on the railways she should condemn the totally unjustified strikes which

close them down week after week. four summers ago the unprecedented climate change driven heatwave caused irreparable damage to chop stems flyover. since then people from all over essex have been stuck in trafficjams. we badly need a new junction but the funding decision has been stuck in whitehall. would my right honourable friend use his powerful cross cabinet convening powers to get treasury and transport to agree to the mining so that we can deliver a newjunction, stop the trafficjams, and gets chelmsford moving again? i traffic jams, and gets chelmsford moving again?— traffic jams, and gets chelmsford movin: auain? ~' ., ., , moving again? i know how powerfully moving again? i know how powerfully m riaht moving again? i know how powerfully my right honourable _ moving again? i know how powerfully my right honourable friend _ moving again? i know how powerfully my right honourable friend makes - moving again? i know how powerfully| my right honourable friend makes the case for the scheme and she has done so once again in the chamber. the chancellor was sitting next to me and would also have heard the case. i understand the case submitted by

essex county council is being considered by ministers right now and all relevant ministers will have heard in her injunction.— heard in her in'unction. scottish ambulance— heard in her injunction. scottish ambulance statistics _ heard in her injunction. scottish ambulance statistics showed . heard in her injunction. scottish ambulance statistics showed a i ambulance statistics showed a increase in core lights across scotland last winter and a staggering 84% in the north in december. whilst few calls have fallen slightly, food and other costs have risen exponentially. two and the perversity of energy—rich scotland, seeing one third of scots in fuel poverty, and actually freezing. when with the government to bring in a social tariff to ensure the poor and runnable can get through this winter without calling out the ambulance service because they are freezing? is out the ambulance service because they are freezing?— they are freezing? is my right honourable _ they are freezing? is my right honourable friend _ they are freezing? is my right honourable friend the - they are freezing? is my right i honourable friend the chancellor they are freezing? is my right - honourable friend the chancellor set out in the autumn statement we are exploring the best approach to consumer protection from april 2024 as part of a wider retail market reforms. i would reiterate to the

honourable gentleman that this winter we paid half of energy bills in scotland and that was thanks to the strength of our union.- in scotland and that was thanks to the strength of our union. thank you mr speaker- — the strength of our union. thank you mr speaker- can _ the strength of our union. thank you mr speaker. can i _ the strength of our union. thank you mr speaker. can i remind _ the strength of our union. thank you mr speaker. can i remind the - the strength of our union. thank you | mr speaker. can i remind the deputy prime _ mr speaker. can i remind the deputy prime minister and the house that yesterday— prime minister and the house that yesterday was national remembering... may have particularly point out _ remembering... may have particularly point out that a little—known fact that british soldiers took out about 2000 _ that british soldiers took out about 2000 civilians in april 1993 from. not widely known but those 2000 people _ not widely known but those 2000 people from b squadron were actually under— people from b squadron were actually under my— people from b squadron were actually under my command and they saved a hu-e under my command and they saved a huge number of lives by taking them out. huge number of lives by taking them out they— huge number of lives by taking them out. they too should be remembered for the _ out. they too should be remembered for the very— out. they too should be remembered for the very gallant action is because _ for the very gallant action is because it was very dangerous. i

for the very gallant action is because it was very dangerous. | page because it was very dangerous. i pay tribute to my — because it was very dangerous. i pay tribute to my right _ because it was very dangerous. i n: tribute to my right honourable because it was very dangerous. i n

paying £5 billion for a white elephant nhs to which by now comes nowhere near our country? it is nowhere near our country? it is thanks to _ nowhere near our country? it is thanks to the — nowhere near our country? it is thanks to the strength of our united kingdom batch record sums are going to wales under the bonnets consequential is. in the spring budget will increase devolved administration funding by £630 million. that included a £180 million. that included a £180 million for the welsh government. we are ensuring resources are going to wales so that they can enhance the transport infrastructure. if it wales so that they can enhance the transport infrastructure.— transport infrastructure. if it was not so serious _ transport infrastructure. if it was not so serious it _ transport infrastructure. if it was not so serious it would _ transport infrastructure. if it was not so serious it would be - transport infrastructure. if it was | not so serious it would be comical but however i have a whole area totaity _ but however i have a whole area totally out — but however i have a whole area totally cut off from having a mobile signat _ totally cut off from having a mobile signal. untilaugust, because of nesting — signal. untilaugust, because of nesting seagulls taking up residency in the _ nesting seagulls taking up residency in the new— nesting seagulls taking up residency in the new telecoms mast. seagulls

are protected, the nest cannot be moved, _ are protected, the nest cannot be moved, but — are protected, the nest cannot be moved, but let's say a family holidaying on the norfolk broads... they wiii— holidaying on the norfolk broads... they will not be able to make an emergency call which will could be life—threatening. with the deputy prime _ life—threatening. with the deputy prime minister: me to call on natural— prime minister: me to call on natural england that for public safety — natural england that for public safety reasons we can get a mobile phone _ safety reasons we can get a mobile phone mast working in a prime holiday— phone mast working in a prime holiday location? we phone mast working in a prime holiday location?— phone mast working in a prime holiday location? we all love the diversity of _ holiday location? we all love the diversity of wildlife _ holiday location? we all love the diversity of wildlife in _ holiday location? we all love the diversity of wildlife in this - diversity of wildlife in this country and particularly on the north norfolk coast that he represents but i think he makes a strong point about the balance between that and ensuring people have access to modern communication facilities and —— sci take it up with natural england. dar; facilities and -- sci take it up with natural england.- facilities and -- sci take it up with natural england. day in, day out the businesses _ with natural england. day in, day out the businesses are _ with natural england. day in, day out the businesses are hit - with natural england. day in, day out the businesses are hit with l out the businesses are hit with confusion across the departments. for them clearly britain is not working. if i can paraphrase the

deputy prime minister earlier we know there is a reshuffle coming up on their side so can he tell us is this down to obstruction and incompetence in the civil service or is it rather that so many of their ministers are just not up to the job? i ministers are 'ust not up to the 'ob? ~' , ., ministers are 'ust not up to the 'ob? ~' ministers are 'ust not up to the 'ob? ,, i. .. , ., job? i think you can see from the records of _ job? i think you can see from the records of this _ job? i think you can see from the records of this government, - job? i think you can see from the - records of this government, whether it is cutting nhs waiting lists, whether it is record funding for our schools and hospitals, we have an excellent team that will continue to serve. . ~' excellent team that will continue to serve. . ~ i. excellent team that will continue to serve. ., ~ ,, ~ excellent team that will continue to serve. . ~ ~ .~ serve. thank you mr speaker. last week we celebrated _ serve. thank you mr speaker. last week we celebrated the _ serve. thank you mr speaker. last week we celebrated the 75th - week we celebrated the 75th anniversary of the nhs. you may not be aware _ anniversary of the nhs. you may not be aware but it is also the 75 anniversary in my constituency designed —

anniversary in my constituency designed by william beveridge. can i ask the _ designed by william beveridge. can i ask the prime minister to ask him to come _ ask the prime minister to ask him to come and _ ask the prime minister to ask him to come and visit me to celebrate the 75 years— come and visit me to celebrate the 75 years and indeed sickly 60 years of the _ 75 years and indeed sickly 60 years of the community newspaper provided by... of the community newspaper provided ttym i�*m _ of the community newspaper provided by... i'm afraid i cannot speak to the prime _ by. .. i'm afraid i cannot speak to the prime ministers— by... i'm afraid i cannot speak to the prime ministers diary - by... i'm afraid i cannot speak to the prime ministers diary but - by... i'm afraid i cannot speak to the prime ministers diary but i i by... i'm afraid i cannot speak to i the prime ministers diary but i will make representations. i will be delighted to visit his constituency if he wishes me to attend instead. thank you mr speaker. the day i had to phone my bank and tell them i was having difficulty paying my mortgage was one that has lived me for years. what i find was that because my income was so low ironically i was not eligible to switch to interest only or get any help. i don't want my constituents to feel the terror and environment i felt that day. can you understand that because his lack

of empathy and his responses to the deputy leader of this group suggests not. i do welcome the temporary measures but they are temporary. this is a mortgage crisis which has been two years in the making. does the prime minister think he is going to fix it in 12 months? 0f of course, it is deeply, deeply disturbing for anyone to contemplate losing their home. that is exactly why my right honourable friend, the chancellor, has introduced the mortgage charger, now signed up by 90% of the mortgage market, which will provide support for people. in addition to that, i would say that after three months, people on universal credit can also apply for further support. a government survey has showed that 75% of british businesses support improvements to the uk's sick pay system and yesterday my right honourable friend the memberfor south swindon punched a report with

ideas on how that could be done so will my other friend make sure that we get a meeting with the chancellor to see what ideas can be put ahead of the autumn budget which would also have an economic boost of £4 million to the uk economy? my million to the uk economy? my honourable friend, as ever, has made a very strong case. the chancellor are sitting next to me and i'm quite sure he would be delighted to beat with him. thank you, mr speaker. the first isolation of people in care homes and hospitals from their loved ones since the beginning of the pandemic and its terrible consequences as well as the many who died alone has left a profound trauma. we have learned the hard way that the care of a loved one is not an optional extra, it is an essential part of dignified care. my care supporters build a guarantee to fundamentals of and by the governor recognises there is a problem, it has recently

announced so would the deputy prime minister speak to the prime minister about bringing forward legislation in the next king's speech? 1 about bringing forward legislation in the next king's speech?- in the next king's speech? i think the honourable _ in the next king's speech? i think the honourable gentleman - in the next king's speech? i think the honourable gentleman is - in the next king's speech? i think| the honourable gentleman is right in the next king's speech? i think- the honourable gentleman is right to highlight the need for care supporters to be able to have that kind of access and i will take away the points he has raised and raise them with my ministry or colleagues. you know the value of interparliamentary relations and in particular the interparliamentary union which was founded nearly 135 years ago in this place and we are very honoured this week to be joined by the president of the interparliamentary union. which might write a join his campaign to get the usa to rejoin this very important international organisation? is important international organisation?— important international oruanisation? , , organisation? is my writable friend knows, organisation? is my writable friend knows. the — organisation? is my writable friend knows. the uk _ organisation? is my writable friend knows, the uk was _ organisation? is my writable friend knows, the uk was a _ organisation? is my writable friend knows, the uk was a founding - organisation? is my writable friend - knows, the uk was a founding member of the interparliamentary union and i would very much like the agitate to rejoin and i am very happy to

help make that case. hat to rejoin and i am very happy to help make that case.— to rejoin and i am very happy to help make that case. not a day goes b without help make that case. not a day goes by without serious _ help make that case. not a day goes by without serious sexual _ help make that case. not a day goes| by without serious sexual harassment allegations in organisations up and down the country. my private bill on workplace protection from harassment could go a long way to address some of these serious issues and indeed, the bill has full government support. however it is currently stuck in the other place but a compromise is now inside to make the bill so it can pass through the house of lords. our rules require that any amendment made in the house of lords needs to come back to the house of commons. will he ensure that the small amount of government time is made available in this place between now and the end of the parliamentary session to ensure that this important bill will become law? as the other lady knows, we have supported the bill, we are working on the bill and myra donna bull friend, the equalities minister, is

very happy to meet with the honourable lady to discuss the measures further. that completes 'eo ard measures further. that completes jeopardy miniature's _ measures further. that completes jeopardy miniature's questions. i jeopardy miniature's questions. as you — jeopardy miniature's questions. as you have just heard, the spigot saying that is the end of this week's session of prime minister's questions but with the deputy leaders there. there was a little bit of an end of term feel, although next week is the last of the prime minister's questions but rishi sunak and keir starmer have been absent the last two weeks. let us introduce our guests. energy minister, shadow secretary of state wales and the bbc�*s lyrical correspondence. welcome to all of you. angela rayner kicked off with analysis that the labour party has just released in the next, the last five—minute or so, showing the number of young children living in poverty has soared by 40% since 2010. 7 million

children live in families that could be exposed to the tory mortgage bombshell. that was very much the backdrop to angela rayner�*s questions, picked up actually also by the snp. this issue of rising mortgage payments forfamilies, is it working? it is mortgage payments for families, is it workin: ? , ., ., mortgage payments for families, is it workinu? , ., ., . it working? it is not going away, it has been mentioned _ it working? it is not going away, it has been mentioned repeatedly i it working? it is not going away, it has been mentioned repeatedly atj has been mentioned repeatedly at pmqs and it is clearly a point of maximum vulnerability for the government. we have rising interest rates surpassing the peak resort in the aftermath of liz truss's mini budget and rishi sunak brought in as a safe pair of hands to manage the economy. also the timescales we are talking about here, interest rates expected to remain high for at least next year going into the general election. it is kelly something labour want to keep going on in something that is quite damaging the government. let something that is quite damaging the covernment. , . . ., ., ~' something that is quite damaging the covernment. , . . . government. let us have a look at this, underlining _ government. let us have a look at this, underlining what _ government. let us have a look at this, underlining what you - government. let us have a look at this, underlining what you said. i this, underlining what you said. political editor of the times, bank of england says monthly mortgage repayments will rise by £220 on

average but by more than £500 for1 million households. this is a mortgage time bomb going up, isn't it? irate this is a mortgage time bomb going pp. isn't it?— up, isn't it? we are obviously aware ofthe up, isn't it? we are obviously aware of the huge — up, isn't it? we are obviously aware of the huge concern _ up, isn't it? we are obviously aware of the huge concern out _ up, isn't it? we are obviously aware of the huge concern out there - up, isn't it? we are obviously aware of the huge concern out there for. of the huge concern out there for mortgage — of the huge concern out there for mortgage holders, which is why the chancettor— mortgage holders, which is why the chancellor announced that the mortgage charger, that 90% of tenders— mortgage charger, that 90% of lenders have now signed up to. it should _ lenders have now signed up to. it should be — lenders have now signed up to. it should be recognised that arrears are down— should be recognised that arrears are down by 70% compared to the high point in _ are down by 70% compared to the high point in 2009 so they are far below what the _ point in 2009 so they are far below what the used to be. however, fully recognise _ what the used to be. however, fully recognise a — what the used to be. however, fully recognise a huge concern being felt by people _ recognise a huge concern being felt by people out there which is why we have taken— by people out there which is why we have taken the action we have. why are ou have taken the action we have. why are you offering _ have taken the action we have. i�*tfa'i1' are you offering direct have taken the action we have. "i1' are you offering direct support. yes, you have all of these schemes or you have talked to the banks and people offering mortgages but actually, is one of the snp mps said, that is temporary, people will

have to pay at some stage? yes. said, that is temporary, people will have to pay at some stage? yes, they are, and have to pay at some stage? yes, they are. and as — have to pay at some stage? yes, they are. and as i — have to pay at some stage? yes, they are, and as i said, _ have to pay at some stage? yes, they are, and as i said, we _ have to pay at some stage? yes, they are, and as i said, we fully _ are, and as i said, we fully recognise _ are, and as i said, we fully recognise the huge pressure on household budgets as a result of rising _ household budgets as a result of rising interest rates and that knock-on _ rising interest rates and that knock—on effect in terms of mortgage rate5, _ knock—on effect in terms of mortgage rates, hence — knock—on effect in terms of mortgage rates, hence we have made it easier for people _ rates, hence we have made it easier for people to change away the mortgage they are on at the moment. we are _ mortgage they are on at the moment. we are very— mortgage they are on at the moment. we are very pleased that 90% of tenders — we are very pleased that 90% of lenders have signed up and we would like to— lenders have signed up and we would like to see _ lenders have signed up and we would like to see the other 10% sign up as wett _ like to see the other 10% sign up as wett we _ like to see the other 10% sign up as wett we are — like to see the other 10% sign up as well. we are taking action to manage the economy a sensible way so we can -et the economy a sensible way so we can get to— the economy a sensible way so we can get to a _ the economy a sensible way so we can get to a stage where interest rates become _ get to a stage where interest rates become down. ultimately this is about— become down. ultimately this is about getting inflation down which is the _ about getting inflation down which is the underlying cause of all of this and — is the underlying cause of all of this and that is where the focus of the government is right now. what would ou the government is right now. what would you be _ the government is right now. what would you be doing _ the government is right now. “ta"isgt would you be doing differently at this point? i know you would not stirfrom this point? i know you would not stir from this point but what would a labour government to be doing now or what you would be suggesting on the front bench?— or what you would be suggesting on the front bench? obviously, they are nickin: our the front bench? obviously, they are nicking our ideas! _ the front bench? obviously, they are nicking our ideas! what _ the front bench? obviously, they are nicking our ideas! what they - the front bench? obviously, they are nicking our ideas! what they have i nicking our ideas! what they have not done — nicking our ideas! what they have not done is — nicking our ideas! what they have not done is make _ nicking our ideas! what they have not done is make the _ nicking our ideas! what they have

not done is make the mortgage i not done is make the mortgage charger— not done is make the mortgage charger announced _ not done is make the mortgage charger announced as- not done is make the mortgage. charger announced as mandatory not done is make the mortgage - charger announced as mandatory and they have _ charger announced as mandatory and they have not — charger announced as mandatory and they have not given _ charger announced as mandatory and they have not given annex _ charger announced as mandatory and they have not given annex the - charger announced as mandatory and they have not given annex the nationj they have not given annex the nation as to _ they have not given annex the nation as to why _ they have not given annex the nation as to why irate — they have not given annex the nation as to wh . ~ . they have not given annex the nation astowh. . . as to why. we are encouraging the 1096. wh as to why. we are encouraging the 10%- why not _ as to why. we are encouraging the 1096. why not make _ as to why. we are encouraging the 1096. why not make it _ as to why. we are encouraging the 1096. why not make it mandatory? as to why. we are encouraging the - 1096. why not make it mandatory? the underl in: 1096. why not make it mandatory? the underlying context _ 1096. why not make it mandatory? the underlying context is _ 1096. why not make it mandatory? the underlying context is that, _ 1096. why not make it mandatory? the underlying context is that, you - underlying context is that, you heard — underlying context is that, you heard it — underlying context is that, you heard it in _ underlying context is that, you heard it in pmqs_ underlying context is that, you heard it in pmqs today, - underlying context is that, you heard it in pmqs today, you i underlying context is that, you i heard it in pmqs today, you have rising _ heard it in pmqs today, you have rising inflation, _ heard it in pmqs today, you have rising inflation, rising _ heard it in pmqs today, you have rising inflation, rising food - heard it in pmqs today, you have rising inflation, rising food costs, peopie _ rising inflation, rising food costs, peopte cannot _ rising inflation, rising food costs, people cannot afford _ rising inflation, rising food costs, people cannot afford to _ rising inflation, rising food costs, people cannot afford to pay- rising inflation, rising food costs, people cannot afford to pay their| people cannot afford to pay their mortgages— people cannot afford to pay their mortgages or _ people cannot afford to pay their mortgages or their— people cannot afford to pay their mortgages or their rent, - people cannot afford to pay theirj mortgages or their rent, housing repossessions _ mortgages or their rent, housing repossessions will— mortgages or their rent, housing repossessions will go _ mortgages or their rent, housing repossessions will go up - mortgages or their rent, housing repossessions will go up and - mortgages or their rent, housing. repossessions will go up and wages are not— repossessions will go up and wages are not going — repossessions will go up and wages are not going up _ repossessions will go up and wages are not going un— are not going up. would you offer direct support? — are not going up. would you offer direct support? would _ are not going up. would you offer direct support? would you - are not going up. would you offer direct support? would you say, i are not going up. would you offer i direct support? would you say, here is a package, i think liberal democrats have a fund of £3 billion. would you be doing that? the government is doing most of what you're suggesting so what else you do? taste you're suggesting so what else you do? ~ . , you're suggesting so what else you do? . ., , , ., you're suggesting so what else you do? ~ . , , ., , do? we are seeing should be mandatory- _ do? we are seeing should be mandatory- my _ do? we are seeing should be mandatory. my caseworkersl do? we are seeing should be i mandatory. my caseworkers for do? we are seeing should be - mandatory. my caseworkers for the people _ mandatory. my caseworkers for the peopte who — mandatory. my caseworkers for the peopte who get _ mandatory. my caseworkers for the people who get ripped _ mandatory. my caseworkers for the people who get ripped off - mandatory. my caseworkers for the people who get ripped off by - people who get ripped off by tandtords— people who get ripped off by landlords and _ people who get ripped off by landlords and problems - people who get ripped off by landlords and problems with| people who get ripped off by - landlords and problems with banks and tenders —

landlords and problems with banks and lenders. if— landlords and problems with banks and lenders. if you _ landlords and problems with banks and lenders. if you make _ landlords and problems with banks and lenders. if you make it - and lenders. if you make it mandatory. _ and lenders. if you make it mandatory, there - and lenders. if you make it mandatory, there is- and lenders. if you make it mandatory, there is a - and lenders. if you make it| mandatory, there is a much and lenders. if you make it - mandatory, there is a much more of an incentive — mandatory, there is a much more of an incentive on _ mandatory, there is a much more of an incentive on the _ mandatory, there is a much more of an incentive on the lenders- mandatory, there is a much more of an incentive on the lenders to - mandatory, there is a much more of an incentive on the lenders to make| an incentive on the lenders to make sure that _ an incentive on the lenders to make sure that they— an incentive on the lenders to make sure that they do _ an incentive on the lenders to make sure that they do what _ an incentive on the lenders to make sure that they do what they - an incentive on the lenders to make sure that they do what they should i sure that they do what they should be doing _ sure that they do what they should be doing and — sure that they do what they should be doing and direct _ sure that they do what they should be doing and direct support, - sure that they do what they should l be doing and direct support, rachel reeves _ be doing and direct support, rachel reeves has — be doing and direct support, rachel reeves has said _ be doing and direct support, rachel reeves has said now— be doing and direct support, rachel reeves has said now is _ be doing and direct support, rachel reeves has said now is not - be doing and direct support, rachel reeves has said now is not the - be doing and direct support, rachel| reeves has said now is not the time for that _ reeves has said now is not the time for that the — reeves has said now is not the time for that. the focus _ reeves has said now is not the time for that. the focus we _ reeves has said now is not the time for that. the focus we would - reeves has said now is not the time for that. the focus we would have i reeves has said now is not the time for that. the focus we would have is on making _ for that. the focus we would have is on making these _ for that. the focus we would have is on making these measures - for that. the focus we would have is i on making these measures mandatory. potiticatty, _ on making these measures mandatory. potiticatty, this— on making these measures mandatory. politically, this is— on making these measures mandatory. politically, this is a _ on making these measures mandatory. politically, this is a time _ on making these measures mandatory. politically, this is a time bomb - politically, this is a time bomb waiting to go off where you think of the millions of households that are going to come off those deals. you are going to be harmed the ballot box on this, aren't you? i stiiiii are going to be harmed the ballot box on this, aren't you?— box on this, aren't you? i will not aet into box on this, aren't you? i will not get into speculation _ box on this, aren't you? i will not get into speculation about - box on this, aren't you? i will not get into speculation about what l box on this, aren't you? i will not i get into speculation about what may or may— get into speculation about what may or may not _ get into speculation about what may or may not happen in an election. 0ur or may not happen in an election. our focus — or may not happen in an election. our focus is — or may not happen in an election. our focus is on driving down inftation _ our focus is on driving down inflation and that is why we are taking — inflation and that is why we are taking the action we are. what action are _ taking the action we are. what action are you _ taking the action we are. what action are you taking - taking the action we are. what action are you taking to - taking the action we are. “ta"isgt action are you taking to bring down inflation? a . action are you taking to bring down inflation? . _, ., , inflation? managing the economy, stud in: inflation? managing the economy, studying the _ inflation? managing the economy, studying the ship. _ inflation? managing the economy, studying the ship. we _ inflation? managing the economy, studying the ship. we are - inflation? managing the economy, i studying the ship. we are supporting the bank— studying the ship. we are supporting the bank of england. it is white the chanceitor— the bank of england. it is white the chancellor met with the competition authority— chancellor met with the competition authority and supermarkets to see what we _ authority and supermarkets to see what we could do to drive down food inflation _ what we could do to drive down food inflation. we understand the issues out there _ inflation. we understand the issues out there but our focus has to be on getting _ out there but our focus has to be on getting the — out there but our focus has to be on getting the economy back on a stable

footing _ getting the economy back on a stable footing so _ getting the economy back on a stable footing so eventually, interest rates — footing so eventually, interest rates can _ footing so eventually, interest rates can come down and therefore, mortgage _ rates can come down and therefore, mortgage rates come down. that may be the reason — mortgage rates come down. that may be the reason then _ mortgage rates come down. that may be the reason then that _ mortgage rates come down. that may be the reason then that rishi - mortgage rates come down. that may be the reason then that rishi sunak, l be the reason then that rishi sunak, no decision yet on public sector pay rises. that, even despite the fact that the pay review board advised certainly in the case of teachers, recommending 6.5%, 2% more than the government recommendation, why aren't you following the advice that we are always told government ministers do? the we are always told government ministers do?— we are always told government ministers do? ., . ministers do? the government are considering — ministers do? the government are considering the _ ministers do? the government are considering the advice _ ministers do? the government are considering the advice given - ministers do? the government are considering the advice given by i ministers do? the government are | considering the advice given by the independent... they will come to a decision— independent... they will come to a decision in— independent... they will come to a decision in due course. we understand people want to see wages increase~ _ understand people want to see wages increase. we have to balance that. in increase. we have to balance that. in terms _ increase. we have to balance that. in terms of— increase. we have to balance that. in terms of our plan to drive down inftation, — in terms of our plan to drive down inflation, the government are checking _ inflation, the government are checking if you right now. would labour accept — checking if you right now. would labour accept that _ checking if you right now. would labour accept that 6.596 - checking if you right now. would labour accept that 6.596 that i checking if you right now. would| labour accept that 6.596 that has labour accept that 6.5% that has been laid out by the pay review body? been laid out by the pay review bod ? ~ .

been laid out by the pay review bod ?~ . . been laid out by the pay review bod 7~ . . , been laid out by the pay review bod? . . . been laid out by the pay review bod? ., ., ., ., body? we are always seeing a... you would say yes — body? we are always seeing a... you would say yes to _ body? we are always seeing a... you would say yes to that? _ body? we are always seeing a... you would say yes to that? the _ body? we are always seeing a... you would say yes to that? the teachersl would say yes to that? the teachers have published _ would say yes to that? the teachers have published already _ would say yes to that? the teachers have published already but - would say yes to that? the teachers have published already but you i would say yes to that? the teachers| have published already but you have to look— have published already but you have to look at _ have published already but you have to look at it — have published already but you have to look at it in — have published already but you have to look at it in the _ have published already but you have to look at it in the context _ have published already but you have to look at it in the context of- to look at it in the context of public — to look at it in the context of public sector— to look at it in the context of public sector pay— to look at it in the context of public sector pay overall. i to look at it in the context of public sector pay overall. to look at it in the context of- public sector pay overall. whig? why public sector pay overall. why? why are we in the _ public sector pay overall. why? why are we in the situation? _ public sector pay overall.“ why are we in the situation? because i public sector pay overall.“ why are we in the situation? because of| are we in the situation? because of the economic— are we in the situation? because of the economic mismanagement i are we in the situation? because of the economic mismanagement of. are we in the situation? because of. the economic mismanagement of the tory government _ the economic mismanagement of the tory government. we _ the economic mismanagement of the tory government. we have _ the economic mismanagement of the tory government. we have strikes. tory government. we have strikes that have — tory government. we have strikes that have been _ tory government. we have strikes that have been going _ tory government. we have strikes that have been going on— tory government. we have strikes that have been going on for- tory government. we have strikes. that have been going on for months. which _ that have been going on for months. which you _ that have been going on for months. which you could _ that have been going on for months. which you could call— that have been going on for months. which you could call off. _ that have been going on for months. which you could call off. you're i which you could call off. you're holding — which you could call off. you're holding the british people to ransom~ _ holding the british people to ransom. , . . ~ ., ransom. they have taken no responsibility _ ransom. they have taken no responsibility for _ ransom. they have taken no responsibility for getting i ransom. they have taken no i responsibility for getting around the table — responsibility for getting around the table and _ responsibility for getting around the table and getting _ responsibility for getting around the table and getting these i the table and getting these discussions. _ the table and getting these discussions.— the table and getting these discussions. t, , , the table and getting these discussions. ., , , . discussions. nonsense, there have been meetings _ discussions. nonsense, there have been meetings around _ discussions. nonsense, there have been meetings around the - discussions. nonsense, there have been meetings around the table. l discussions. nonsense, there have i been meetings around the table. they have been— been meetings around the table. they have been significant offers made to a variety— have been significant offers made to a variety of— have been significant offers made to a variety of unions regarding increases. a variety of unions regarding increases-— a variety of unions regarding increases. , , , . , increases. some disputes have been resolved. increases. some disputes have been resolved- the _ increases. some disputes have been resolved. the figure _ increases. some disputes have been resolved. the figure is _ increases. some disputes have been resolved. the figure is one - increases. some disputes have been resolved. the figure is one thing, i resolved. the figure is one thing, whatever is _ resolved. the figure is one thing, whatever is decided _ resolved. the figure is one thing, whatever is decided on, - resolved. the figure is one thing, whatever is decided on, how i resolved. the figure is one thing, whatever is decided on, how will| whatever is decided on, how will that be paid for? is the government saying there will be no additional

money to fund any additional pay increases? the money to fund any additional pay increases? . , ., . , , increases? the decision has been taken on the _ increases? the decision has been taken on the pay _ increases? the decision has been taken on the pay review- increases? the decision has been taken on the pay review body's i taken on the pay review body's recommendation.— taken on the pay review body's recommendation. . ,, recommendation. that ballpark figure between six and _ recommendation. that ballpark figure between six and 796 _ recommendation. that ballpark figure between six and 796 that _ recommendation. that ballpark figure between six and 796 that we _ recommendation. that ballpark figure between six and 796 that we know i recommendation. that ballpark figure | between six and 796 that we know now between six and 7% that we know now the pay bodies are recommending, what proportion of that is the government prepared to fund and what will be taking from existing funds? there will be an announcement in due course _ there will be an announcement in due course. it— there will be an announcement in due course. , . , ., ., . course. it is a question for labour as well, course. it is a question for labour as well. do _ course. it is a question for labour as well. do you — course. it is a question for labour as well, do you want _ course. it is a question for labour as well, do you want to _ course. it is a question for labour as well, do you want to see - as well, do you want to see additional money? we as well, do you want to see additional money?- as well, do you want to see additional money? we are not in government- _ additional money? we are not in government. you _ additional money? we are not in government. you want - additional money? we are not in government. you want to - additional money? we are not in government. you want to be, i additional money? we are not in i government. you want to be, though. you are _ government. you want to be, though. you are in_ government. you want to be, though. you are in government _ government. you want to be, though. you are in government and _ government. you want to be, though. you are in government and you - government. you want to be, though. | you are in government and you cannot say how— you are in government and you cannot say how you _ you are in government and you cannot say how you will — you are in government and you cannot say how you will pay _ you are in government and you cannot say how you will pay for _ you are in government and you cannot say how you will pay for something - say how you will pay for something that you _ say how you will pay for something that you are — say how you will pay for something that you are saying _ say how you will pay for something that you are saying should - say how you will pay for something�* that you are saying should happen. you are _ that you are saying should happen. you are saying. _ that you are saying should happen. you are saying, let _ that you are saying should happen. you are saying, let us _ that you are saying should happen. you are saying, let us wait - that you are saying should happen. you are saying, let us wait for- that you are saying should happen. you are saying, let us wait for an l you are saying, let us wait for an announcement from the chancellor. the reports — announcement from the chancellor. the reports are saying you have to pay any _ the reports are saying you have to pay any rises out of departmental cuts and — pay any rises out of departmental cuts and you won't commit either and you want— cuts and you won't commit either and you want to _ cuts and you won't commit either and you want to be in government. what should _ you want to be in government. what should the _ you want to be in government. what should the public make of that? it is hot _ should the public make of that? it is notjust— should the public make of that? it is notjust around pay but should the public make of that? it

is not just around pay but also recruitment and retention levels. pay would — recruitment and retention levels. pay would obviously help but if you look at _ pay would obviously help but if you look at disputing _ pay would obviously help but if you look at disputing the _ pay would obviously help but if you look at disputing the public - pay would obviously help but if you look at disputing the public sector, j look at disputing the public sector, a lot of— look at disputing the public sector, a lot of it _ look at disputing the public sector, a lot of it is — look at disputing the public sector, a lot of it is to— look at disputing the public sector, a lot of it is to do— look at disputing the public sector, a lot of it is to do with _ look at disputing the public sector, a lot of it is to do with working - a lot of it is to do with working conditions _ a lot of it is to do with working conditions and _ a lot of it is to do with working conditions and recruitment, i a lot of it is to do with working| conditions and recruitment, we a lot of it is to do with working - conditions and recruitment, we have seen it— conditions and recruitment, we have seen it in— conditions and recruitment, we have seen it in the — conditions and recruitment, we have seen it in the edge _ conditions and recruitment, we have seen it in the edge nhs. _ conditions and recruitment, we have seen it in the edge nhs. you - conditions and recruitment, we have seen it in the edge nhs. you have . seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said _ seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said how— seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said how you _ seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said how you will— seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said how you will pay- seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said how you will pay for- seen it in the edge nhs. you have not said how you will pay for it, i seen it in the edge nhs. you havel not said how you will pay for it, we have _ not said how you will pay for it, we have said _ not said how you will pay for it, we have said how— not said how you will pay for it, we have said how we _ not said how you will pay for it, we have said how we will— not said how you will pay for it, we have said how we will pay- not said how you will pay for it, we have said how we will pay for- not said how you will pay for it, we have said how we will pay for it. i not said how you will pay for it, we i have said how we will pay for it. we are not have said how we will pay for it. are not getting answers, we have have said how we will pay for it.“ are not getting answers, we have one week for another pmqs, i don't think you to all be here to answer them but let us go onto that key priority for the government, that so far is a little bit stuck. signatories criticise the illegal migration bill. there were a load of changes and amendments put forward by the lords but it did get through the commons, what is the state of this bill? it commons, what is the state of this bill? , . ~ ., , commons, what is the state of this bill? , ., , ., bill? it is back in the lords today. there were _ bill? it is back in the lords today. there were 20 _ bill? it is back in the lords today. there were 20 amendments. - bill? it is back in the lords today. there were 20 amendments. the| there were 20 amendments. the commons did reject most of them. the government did make some concessions earlier in the week. that was around time limits and also, not applying

this bill retrospectively, which was the intention so when it becomes law, it would apply to anyone who arrived here from march. that now is not happening. but this is going to go now down to the wire between the lords in the commons. some tory rebels are still asking for significant concessions from the government, not happy about what they have heard already. the lords have the opportunity to tinker with it again and government are very clear they want this to be passed by the end of the summer but also really worth remembering this is one piece of the puzzle. the foundation of this bill is the rwanda scheme which is currently also held up in the courts so when you describe this as a stock, it is stuck on two counts, both in terms of the bill and its foundation in terms of being able to send people to rwanda who arrive on small boats. haifa able to send people to rwanda who arrive on small boats.— arrive on small boats. how likely is this auoin arrive on small boats. how likely is this going to _ arrive on small boats. how likely is this going to be — arrive on small boats. how likely is this going to be passed _ arrive on small boats. how likely is this going to be passed by - arrive on small boats. how likely is this going to be passed by the - this going to be passed by the summer? we

this going to be passed by the summer? ~ ., ., , , summer? we are determined to pass this bill. summer? we are determined to pass this bill- by — summer? we are determined to pass this bill. by next _ summer? we are determined to pass this bill. by next thursday? - summer? we are determined to pass this bill. by next thursday? we - summer? we are determined to pass this bill. by next thursday? we are i this bill. by next thursday? we are determined to get on the statute book— determined to get on the statute book as — determined to get on the statute book as soon as possible. in whatever— book as soon as possible. in whatever state it in? we are absolutely determined to get this bill through and a that we had record — bill through and a that we had record number of come 18 times the labour— record number of come 18 times the labour trip— record number of come 18 times the labour trip through the lobbies to stop the — labour trip through the lobbies to stop the plan and they have no plan of their— stop the plan and they have no plan of their own. if they had a credible argument — of their own. if they had a credible argument and alternative, i could understand that but why are they stopping — understand that but why are they stopping us moving forward to stop the people smugglers and clampdown on this— the people smugglers and clampdown on this pernicious trade of life. because — on this pernicious trade of life. because this bill won't do that and you know— because this bill won't do that and you know that, _ because this bill won't do that and you know that, it _ because this bill won't do that and you know that, it is _ because this bill won't do that and you know that, it is a _ because this bill won't do that and you know that, it is a complete . because this bill won't do that and i you know that, it is a complete con. we have _ you know that, it is a complete con. we have published _ you know that, it is a complete con. we have published a _ you know that, it is a complete con. we have published a five—point - you know that, it is a complete con. we have published a five—point plan on this _ we have published a five—point plan on this you — we have published a five—point plan on this. you have _ we have published a five—point plan on this. you have cut _ we have published a five—point plan on this. you have cut money- we have published a five—point plan on this. you have cut money from . we have published a five—point plan i on this. you have cut money from the national— on this. you have cut money from the national crime — on this. you have cut money from the national crime agency— on this. you have cut money from the national crime agency but _ on this. you have cut money from the national crime agency but we - on this. you have cut money from the national crime agency but we would i national crime agency but we would fund a _ national crime agency but we would fund a cross—border— national crime agency but we would fund a cross—border unit _ national crime agency but we would fund a cross—border unit with - national crime agency but we would fund a cross—border unit with the . fund a cross—border unit with the national— fund a cross—border unit with the national crime _ fund a cross—border unit with the national crime agency— fund a cross—border unit with the national crime agency with - fund a cross—border unit with the . national crime agency with officers placed _ national crime agency with officers placed in— national crime agency with officers placed in the — national crime agency with officers placed in the uk_ national crime agency with officers placed in the uk and _ national crime agency with officers placed in the uk and europe - national crime agency with officers placed in the uk and europe to- national crime agency with officers| placed in the uk and europe to stop the smuggling~ _ placed in the uk and europe to stop the smuggling. clear— placed in the uk and europe to stop the smuggling. clear the _ placed in the uk and europe to stop the smuggling. clear the backlog i placed in the uk and europe to stop. the smuggling. clear the backlog and in doing _ the smuggling. clear the backlog and in doing that, — the smuggling. clear the backlog and in doing that, we _ the smuggling. clear the backlog and in doing that, we would _ the smuggling. clear the backlog and in doing that, we would end - the smuggling. clear the backlog and in doing that, we would end hotel- in doing that, we would end hotel use which— in doing that, we would end hotel use which is— in doing that, we would end hotel use which is causing _ in doing that, we would end hotel use which is causing billions - in doing that, we would end hotel use which is causing billions of. in doing that, we would end hotel use which is causing billions of el use which is causing billions of e going _ use which is causing billions of e

going up— use which is causing billions of e going up and _ use which is causing billions of e going up and up _ use which is causing billions of e going up and up we _ use which is causing billions of e going up and up. we would - use which is causing billions of e l going up and up. we would reform settlement— going up and up. we would reform settlement schemes, _ going up and up. we would reform settlement schemes, have - going up and up. we would reform settlement schemes, have a - going up and up. we would reform settlement schemes, have a new. settlement schemes, have a new agreement— settlement schemes, have a new agreement with _ settlement schemes, have a new agreement with france? - settlement schemes, have a new agreement with france? we - settlement schemes, have a new agreement with france? we have an aareement agreement with france? we have an agreement with _ agreement with france? we have an agreement with france? _ agreement with france? we have an agreement with france? a _ agreement with france? we have an agreement with france? a better . agreement with france? a better agreement- _ agreement with france? a better agreement. the _ agreement with france? a better agreement. the reason - agreement with france? a better agreement. the reason why - agreement with france? a better agreement. the reason why it. agreement with france? a better agreement. the reason why it is | agreement. the reason why it is taking _ agreement. the reason why it is taking you — agreement. the reason why it is taking you so _ agreement. the reason why it is taking you so long _ agreement. the reason why it is taking you so long is— agreement. the reason why it is taking you so long is because i agreement. the reason why it isi taking you so long is because you destroyed — taking you so long is because you destroyed our— taking you so long is because you destroyed our reputation. - taking you so long is because you destroyed our reputation. other. destroyed our reputation. other countries — destroyed our reputation. other countries did _ destroyed our reputation. other countries did not _ destroyed our reputation. other countries did not trust - destroyed our reputation. other countries did not trust us - destroyed our reputation. other countries did not trust us to - destroyed our reputation. otherl countries did not trust us to stick to agreements— countries did not trust us to stick to agreements because - countries did not trust us to stick to agreements because you - countries did not trust us to stick to agreements because you put i to agreements because you put forward _ to agreements because you put forward bills— to agreements because you put forward bills that _ to agreements because you put forward bills that breached - forward bills that breached international— forward bills that breached international laws - forward bills that breached international laws so - forward bills that breached international laws so this i forward bills that breachedl international laws so this is forward bills that breached . international laws so this is a forward bills that breached - international laws so this is a con, this lrill— international laws so this is a con, this bill and — international laws so this is a con, this bill and it _ international laws so this is a con, this bill and it will— international laws so this is a con, this bill and it will not _ international laws so this is a con, this bill and it will not do - international laws so this is a con, this bill and it will not do what - this bill and it will not do what you say— this bill and it will not do what you say it _ this bill and it will not do what you say it will _ this bill and it will not do what you say it will.— this bill and it will not do what you say it will. you are not going to aaree you say it will. you are not going to agree on _ you say it will. you are not going to agree on the _ you say it will. you are not going to agree on the bill _ you say it will. you are not going to agree on the bill and - you say it will. you are not going to agree on the bill and the - you say it will. you are not going i to agree on the bill and the rwanda plan. let mejust to agree on the bill and the rwanda plan. let me just show you this image because it was controversial, discussed in the commons but it was raised again by pete wishart who said, and i paraphrase, he had never seen anything as awful or appalling as this image of mickey mouse and minnie mouse in an asylum centre. it was painted over, it was supposed to be there for young people and

children but it was painted over. do you agree with that?— children but it was painted over. do you agree with that? robert jen rick exlained you agree with that? robert jen rick explained the _ you agree with that? robert jen rick explained the decision _ you agree with that? robert jen rick explained the decision yesterday - you agree with that? robert jen rick explained the decision yesterday at i explained the decision yesterday at the dispatch box. he decided it was not age—appropriate for the part of the detention centre it was in and so the _ the detention centre it was in and so the decision was taken to paint over it _ so the decision was taken to paint over it. . , so the decision was taken to paint over it. ., , ., over it. that is the argument, clearly it _ over it. that is the argument, clearly it seems _ over it. that is the argument, clearly it seems like - over it. that is the argument, clearly it seems like a - over it. that is the argument, clearly it seems like a petty i clearly it seems like a petty example of robertjen rick's approach to some. would you accept that whether it appeal to teenagers or not, it is actually quite a petty way of making that point? i or not, it is actually quite a petty way of making that point?- or not, it is actually quite a petty way of making that point? i take it at face value. _ way of making that point? i take it at face value, the _ way of making that point? i take it at face value, the reasons - way of making that point? i take it at face value, the reasons that - at face value, the reasons that robert — at face value, the reasons that robert gave yesterday at the dispatch box. it was not age appropriate. dispatch box. it was not age appr0priate-_ dispatch box. it was not age appropriate. dispatch box. it was not age a-ro-riate. , , ., .,, appropriate. many people are raising it. it is appropriate. many people are raising it- it is busy — appropriate. many people are raising it. it is busy touched _ appropriate. many people are raising it. it is busy touched a _ appropriate. many people are raising it. it is busy touched a nerve, - appropriate. many people are raising it. it is busy touched a nerve, of- it. it is busy touched a nerve, of course it — it. it is busy touched a nerve, of course it has — it. it is busy touched a nerve, of course it has and _ it. it is busy touched a nerve, of course it has and i _ it. it is busy touched a nerve, of course it has and i understand i it. it is busy touched a nerve, of. course it has and i understand why people _ course it has and i understand why people are — course it has and i understand why people are concerned about it. the decision— people are concerned about it. the decision was taken for the reasons robert _ decision was taken for the reasons robert set — decision was taken for the reasons robert set out at what we should be doing _ robert set out at what we should be doing is— robert set out at what we should be doing is focusing on getting this bill across the line. why

doing is focusing on getting this bill across the line.— doing is focusing on getting this bill across the line. why is robert nettina bill across the line. why is robert getting involved _ bill across the line. why is robert getting involved in _ bill across the line. why is robert getting involved in the _ bill across the line. why is robert getting involved in the decorating j getting involved in the decorating of immigration _ getting involved in the decorating of immigration centres? - getting involved in the decorating of immigration centres?— getting involved in the decorating of immigration centres? maybe if you su orted of immigration centres? maybe if you supported him _ of immigration centres? maybe if you supported him on _ of immigration centres? maybe if you supported him on the _ of immigration centres? maybe if you supported him on the immigration . supported him on the immigration billm _ supported him on the immigration bill... �* ., ., ., bill... before we move on, there isn't an alternative, _ bill... before we move on, there isn't an alternative, is _ bill... before we move on, there isn't an alternative, is there? - bill... before we move on, there isn't an alternative, is there? in | isn't an alternative, is there? in terms of labour trying to deal with, or stop this illegal trade of people smuggling. you have put out this five—point plan, it is long—term, it does rely on some of the things the government is already doing. even ken clarke who is not hard line on immigration, said we should try rwanda because there is no other alternative. rwanda because there is no other alternative-— rwanda because there is no other alternative. ., ., , , , alternative. rwanda is too expensive and it is unworkable, _ alternative. rwanda is too expensive and it is unworkable, unethical - alternative. rwanda is too expensive and it is unworkable, unethical and l and it is unworkable, unethical and it is in— and it is unworkable, unethical and it is in the — and it is unworkable, unethical and it is in the courts _ and it is unworkable, unethical and it is in the courts for— and it is unworkable, unethical and it is in the courts for a _ and it is unworkable, unethical and it is in the courts for a reason. - it is in the courts for a reason. there — it is in the courts for a reason. there are _ it is in the courts for a reason. there are concerns _ it is in the courts for a reason. there are concerns because i it is in the courts for a reason. there are concerns because it| there are concerns because it probably— there are concerns because it probably breaches _ there are concerns because it. probably breaches international there are concerns because it- probably breaches international law. that is _ probably breaches international law. that is not _ probably breaches international law. that is not what _ probably breaches international law. that is not what the _ probably breaches international law. that is not what the judges - probably breaches international law. that is not what the judges are - that is not what the judges are found — that is not what the judges are found there last week. in fact, he

said rwanda was a safe country. it said rwanda was a safe country. it has said rwanda was a safe country. has not got said rwanda was a safe country. it has not got to the end of its journey _ has not got to the end of its journey wait— has not got to the end of its journey. wait and _ has not got to the end of its journey. wait and see - has not got to the end of its journey. wait and see whati has not got to the end of its - journey. wait and see what happens at the _ journey. wait and see what happens at the end _ journey. wait and see what happens at the end but— journey. wait and see what happens at the end but the _ journey. wait and see what happens at the end but the fact _ journey. wait and see what happens at the end but the fact is, _ journey. wait and see what happens at the end but the fact is, the - journey. wait and see what happens at the end but the fact is, the bill. at the end but the fact is, the bill will not _ at the end but the fact is, the bill will not solve _ at the end but the fact is, the bill will not solve the _ at the end but the fact is, the bill will not solve the problem, - at the end but the fact is, the bill will not solve the problem, it - at the end but the fact is, the bill will not solve the problem, it willj will not solve the problem, it will make _ will not solve the problem, it will make it _ will not solve the problem, it will make it worse _ will not solve the problem, it will make it worse and _ will not solve the problem, it will make it worse and it _ will not solve the problem, it will make it worse and it will- will not solve the problem, it will make it worse and it will also,...| make it worse and it will also,... two _ make it worse and it will also,... two former— make it worse and it will also,... two former leaders— make it worse and it will also,... two former leaders of— make it worse and it will also,... two former leaders of the - make it worse and it will also,... two former leaders of the tory. make it worse and it will also,... - two former leaders of the tory party say this— two former leaders of the tory party say this is— two former leaders of the tory party say this is essentially _ two former leaders of the tory party say this is essentially a _ two former leaders of the tory party say this is essentially a green - say this is essentially a green light— say this is essentially a green light to — say this is essentially a green light to modern _ say this is essentially a green light to modern slavery. - say this is essentially a green light to modern slavery.- say this is essentially a green light to modern slavery. they don't sa that b light to modern slavery. they don't say that by the _ light to modern slavery. they don't say that by the rwanda _ light to modern slavery. they don't say that by the rwanda plan. - light to modern slavery. they don't say that by the rwanda plan. they| say that by the rwanda plan. they said it about _ say that by the rwanda plan. they said it about the _ say that by the rwanda plan. they said it about the bill. _ say that by the rwanda plan. they said it about the bill. but - say that by the rwanda plan. they said it about the bill. but they - said it about the bill. but they backed the — said it about the bill. but they backed the rwanda _ said it about the bill. but they backed the rwanda plan - said it about the bill. but they| backed the rwanda plan which said it about the bill. but they i backed the rwanda plan which is something labour will simply not true _ something labour will simply not true. . ., , ., ., true. can i read you what theresa ma did true. can i read you what theresa may did say. _ true. can i read you what theresa may did say. i— true. can i read you what theresa may did say, i know _ true. can i read you what theresa may did say, i know ministers - true. can i read you what theresa | may did say, i know ministers have said that this bill will enable more perpetrators to be stopped but of modern slavery, i believe it will do the opposite, it will enable more slave drivers to operate at make money out of human misery. what slave drivers to operate at make money out of human misery. what you sa to money out of human misery. what you say to her? — money out of human misery. what you say to her? i — money out of human misery. what you say to her? i fundamentally _ say to her? i fundamentally disagree, this. the boots and stop the trade — disagree, this. the boots and stop the trade in — disagree, this. the boots and stop the trade in human life and enable the trade in human life and enable the asylum — the trade in human life and enable the asylum seeker to get on and deal with the _ the asylum seeker to get on and deal with the genuine asylum cases for people _ with the genuine asylum cases for people who are seeking to start here

in the _ people who are seeking to start here in the uk _ people who are seeking to start here in the uk. let people who are seeking to start here in the uk. , ., in the uk. let us look at the independent _ in the uk. let us look at the independent headline. - in the uk. let us look at the independent headline. boris in the uk. let us look at the - independent headline. boris johnson independent headline. boris johnson failed independent headline. borisjohnson failed to hand over mobile with crucial covid—19 tops before inquiry deadline. tell us with this is about. , ., , ., about. this goes back to the official covid-19 _ about. this goes back to the official covid-19 inquiry - about. this goes back to the - official covid-19 inquiry demanding official covid—19 inquiry demanding all indications relating to the handling of the pandemic, asked the government to provide messages relating to borisjohnson's communication with other people. the government says, yes, we will give you what we think is relevant, but you what we think is relevant, but you cannot have everything because they argue that some of it was irrelevant. it went to court, the government took its own inquiry to court. it has been ruled against so they had a deadline for monday for pm to hand over all this unredacted messages. borisjohnson has been clear that he wants to hand them over, so it's looking as if government is obstructing it. they also missed its deadline so it looks

like there will be further can occasion between the government, the cabinet office and the inquiry, to explain and the delay seems to be coming down to some difficulty accessing messages from boris johnson's old mobile phone, security issues around old messages because he changed phones in the middle of the pandemic. it looks like the government and borisjohnson's team are trying to work around this together but it certainly does not look good the government is still in a position of not actually handing over all the required material. is overallthe required material. is the government fully co—operating here with the inquiry? it is. the government fully co-operating here with the inquiry?— here with the inquiry? it is. as far as i am aware. — here with the inquiry? it is. as far as i am aware, the _ here with the inquiry? it is. as far as i am aware, the reasons - here with the inquiry? it is. as far as i am aware, the reasons for . here with the inquiry? it is. as far| as i am aware, the reasons for this are the _ as i am aware, the reasons for this are the reasons you have just set out _ are the reasons you have just set out there — are the reasons you have just set out. there are issues accessing old messages — out. there are issues accessing old messages from boris johnson's old phone _ messages from boris johnson's old phone and — messages from boris johnson's old phone and i do believe that that is what _ phone and i do believe that that is what has — phone and i do believe that that is what has presented prevented these messages being handed over. the court _ messages being handed over. the court found against us and we are fully cooperating with the inquiry.

i genuinely believe it is the security— i genuinely believe it is the security reasons and the difficulties that are holding things up. difficulties that are holding things u -. ., , difficulties that are holding things u . _ ., , ., difficulties that are holding things u a _ ., , ., ., difficulties that are holding things up. those are legitimate reasons when it comes _ up. those are legitimate reasons when it comes to _ up. those are legitimate reasons when it comes to security, - when it comes to security, particularly in government and you would for the same sort of caution around materials that are being handed over? the around materials that are being handed over?— around materials that are being handed over? ., , , handed over? the government set up this inquiry. — handed over? the government set up this inquiry. they _ handed over? the government set up this inquiry, they knew _ handed over? the government set up this inquiry, they knew that _ handed over? the government set up this inquiry, they knew that as - handed over? the government set up this inquiry, they knew that as part i this inquiry, they knew that as part of that, _ this inquiry, they knew that as part of that, you — this inquiry, they knew that as part of that, you should _ this inquiry, they knew that as part of that, you should hand _ this inquiry, they knew that as part of that, you should hand over- of that, you should hand over everything _ of that, you should hand over everything to _ of that, you should hand over everything to the _ of that, you should hand over everything to the inquiry. - of that, you should hand over. everything to the inquiry. mums of that, you should hand over- everything to the inquiry. mums have .one everything to the inquiry. mums have gone by— everything to the inquiry. mums have gone by and — everything to the inquiry. mums have gone by and we — everything to the inquiry. mums have gone byand we are— everything to the inquiry. mums have gone by and we are in— everything to the inquiry. mums have gone by and we are in the _ everything to the inquiry. mums have gone by and we are in the situation. gone by and we are in the situation because _ gone by and we are in the situation because the — gone by and we are in the situation because the government _ gone by and we are in the situation because the government made - gone by and we are in the situation because the government made a l gone by and we are in the situation. because the government made a legal challenge _ because the government made a legal challenge against _ because the government made a legal challenge against the _ because the government made a legal challenge against the inquiry- because the government made a legal challenge against the inquiry chair- challenge against the inquiry chair who they— challenge against the inquiry chair who they appointed _ challenge against the inquiry chair who they appointed themselves i challenge against the inquiry chairi who they appointed themselves and challenge against the inquiry chair. who they appointed themselves and i am afraid _ who they appointed themselves and i am afraid it _ who they appointed themselves and i am afraid itiust— who they appointed themselves and i am afraid itjust reflects— who they appointed themselves and i am afraid it just reflects anybody- am afraid it just reflects anybody on the _ am afraid it just reflects anybody on the government. _ am afraid it just reflects anybody on the government. the - am afraid it just reflects anybody on the government. the public. am afraid it just reflects anybody. on the government. the public look at the _ on the government. the public look at the government _ on the government. the public look at the government and _ on the government. the public look at the government and think, - on the government. the public look at the government and think, can . on the government. the public lookl at the government and think, can we trust them? — at the government and think, can we trust them? look— at the government and think, can we trust them? look at _ at the government and think, can we trust them? look at what _ at the government and think, can we trust them? look at what they - at the government and think, can we trust them? look at what they did i trust them? look at what they did during _ trust them? look at what they did during the — trust them? look at what they did during the pandemic, _ trust them? look at what they did during the pandemic, look- trust them? look at what they did during the pandemic, look at - trust them? look at what they did during the pandemic, look at now| during the pandemic, look at now what _ during the pandemic, look at now what they— during the pandemic, look at now what they are _ during the pandemic, look at now what they are doing _ during the pandemic, look at now what they are doing and - during the pandemic, look at now what they are doing and it - during the pandemic, look at now what they are doing and it has - what they are doing and it has got — what they are doing and it has not. .. , . ., got... there is a legitimate argument _ got... there is a legitimate argument to _ got... there is a legitimate argument to be _ got... there is a legitimate argument to be had - got... there is a legitimate argument to be had about| got... there is a legitimate - argument to be had about what is relevant _ argument to be had about what is relevant and what information should be passed _

relevant and what information should be passed. let andrew speak. that discussion— be passed. let andrew speak. that discussion was had and the courts found _ discussion was had and the courts found against the government and we are fully— found against the government and we are fully cooperating. is about security— are fully cooperating. is about security which is incredibly serious and i_ security which is incredibly serious and i very— security which is incredibly serious and i very much...— security which is incredibly serious and i very much... boris johnson had to chance and i very much... boris johnson had to change his — and i very much... boris johnson had to change his phone _ and i very much... boris johnson had to change his phone number- and i very much... boris johnson hadj to change his phone number because it was leaked on the internet. do you think that is the case, the covid—19 inquiry is of easily critically important for all the reasons we know, that lessons need to be learned, and the families need to be learned, and the families need to get some of the answers about how decisions were made. do you think at the very least, it looks as if, even though you have responded and say positively even though you lost that case, does it look as if the government is trying to drag its feet a bit of this but that it does not want for transparency, or it is not want for transparency, or it is not comfortable with that idea, that will make people question the

motivation? i will make people question the motivation?— will make people question the motivation? i don't think so. a legitimate _ motivation? i don't think so. a legitimate debate _ motivation? i don't think so. a legitimate debate had - motivation? i don't think so. a legitimate debate had to - motivation? i don't think so. a legitimate debate had to be i motivation? i don't think so. a. legitimate debate had to be had motivation? i don't think so. a - legitimate debate had to be had and we are _ legitimate debate had to be had and we are fully cooperating. if there is anybody dragging their feet regarding an inquiry, it is the labour— regarding an inquiry, it is the labour government in wales who are refusing _ labour government in wales who are refusing to _ labour government in wales who are refusing to have an inquiry. mark drakeford has _ refusing to have an inquiry. mark drakeford has given _ refusing to have an inquiry. mark drakeford has given evidence to the inquiry _ drakeford has given evidence to the inuui . ~ , ., �* drakeford has given evidence to the inuui .~ , .,�* ., ., inquiry. why won't labour agree? mark drakeford _ inquiry. why won't labour agree? mark drakeford has _ inquiry. why won't labour agree? mark drakeford has given - inquiry. why won't labour agree? | mark drakeford has given evidence inquiry. why won't labour agree? i mark drakeford has given evidence to the inquiry _ mark drakeford has given evidence to the inuui . .., ., ,, ., mark drakeford has given evidence to the inui . ., ,, ., the inquiry. nicola sturgeon has uiven the inquiry. nicola sturgeon has given evidence _ the inquiry. nicola sturgeon has given evidence and _ the inquiry. nicola sturgeon has given evidence and scuttled - the inquiry. nicola sturgeon has given evidence and scuttled is i given evidence and scuttled is having — given evidence and scuttled is having its own inquiry, why can't wales? — having its own inquiry, why can't wales? ., , ., , ., wales? labour is not running squared of an inquiry — wales? labour is not running squared of an inquiry because _ wales? labour is not running squared of an inquiry because there _ wales? labour is not running squared of an inquiry because there is - of an inquiry because there is dedicated _ of an inquiry because there is dedicated space _ of an inquiry because there is dedicated space within - of an inquiry because there is dedicated space within the i of an inquiry because there is- dedicated space within the inquiry that will— dedicated space within the inquiry that will be — dedicated space within the inquiry that will be for— dedicated space within the inquiry that will be for welsh _ dedicated space within the inquiryj that will be for welsh government and that— that will be for welsh government and that is— that will be for welsh government and that is white _ that will be for welsh government and that is white mark _ that will be for welsh government and that is white mark drakeford,| and that is white mark drakeford, the first — and that is white mark drakeford, the first minister— and that is white mark drakeford, the first minister and _ and that is white mark drakeford, the first minister and former- and that is white mark drakeford, i the first minister and former health minister— the first minister and former health minister gave — the first minister and former health minister gave evidence _ the first minister and former health minister gave evidence in _ the first minister and former health minister gave evidence in the - the first minister and former health minister gave evidence in the first i minister gave evidence in the first theme _ minister gave evidence in the first theme of— minister gave evidence in the first theme of it — minister gave evidence in the first theme of it last— minister gave evidence in the first theme of it last week. _ minister gave evidence in the first theme of it last week. lilie- minister gave evidence in the first theme of it last week.— theme of it last week. we all remember — theme of it last week. we all remember during _ theme of it last week. we all remember during covid-19 i theme of it last week. we all. remember during covid-19 how theme of it last week. we all- remember during covid-19 how clear remember during covid—19 how clear it became _ remember during covid—19 how clear it became two people of this country 'ust it became two people of this country just how— it became two people of this country just how desperate the provision of

health— just how desperate the provision of health services are in the uk the devolved — health services are in the uk the devolved nature of summary of decisions — devolved nature of summary of decisions so surely there is a role for the _ decisions so surely there is a role for the welsh government to set up inquires— for the welsh government to set up inquires to — for the welsh government to set up inquires to look at the decisions taken _ inquires to look at the decisions taken in — inquires to look at the decisions taken in cardiff regarding the people — taken in cardiff regarding the people of wales, just as the scottish— people of wales, just as the scottish government has accepted... that is— scottish government has accepted... that is happening in the uk inquiry and if— that is happening in the uk inquiry and ifyou— that is happening in the uk inquiry and if you read _ that is happening in the uk inquiry and if you read the _ that is happening in the uk inquiry and if you read the terms - that is happening in the uk inquiry and if you read the terms of- and if you read the terms of reference. _ and if you read the terms of reference, you _ and if you read the terms of reference, you would - and if you read the terms of reference, you would knowi and if you read the terms of- reference, you would know that. i have reference, you would know that. have read the terms of reference reference, you would know that.- have read the terms of reference and i have read the terms of reference and l accept _ have read the terms of reference and i accept there is a space for an investigation into what happened in scotland _ investigation into what happened in scotland and wales and northern lreland _ scotland and wales and northern ireland within the uk inquiry but if labour— ireland within the uk inquiry but if labour was— ireland within the uk inquiry but if labour was so keen on transparency and soaking — labour was so keen on transparency and soaking to get to the bottom of the decisions taken over covid—19, should _ the decisions taken over covid—19, should have — the decisions taken over covid—19, should have their own inquiry in wales — should have their own inquiry in wales l — should have their own inquiry in wales. ., ., , ., wales. i want to 'ust touch on the issue of vaping. _ wales. i want to just touch on the issue of vaping. we _ wales. i want to just touch on the issue of vaping. we have - wales. i want to just touch on the l issue of vaping. we have discussed it a few times on the programme. a lot of parents are very worried about the impact on young people, particularly the labour party are actually having an opposition day debate. explain what that means full stop labour gets a certain amount of

time to bring attention to issues it cares about. time to bring attention to issues it cares about-— time to bring attention to issues it cares about. today they are using a debate to talk _ cares about. today they are using a debate to talk about _ cares about. today they are using a debate to talk about tackling - debate to talk about tackling marketing of vaping children and young people. it is something rising up young people. it is something rising up the political agenda. the prime minister talked about this recently saying is unacceptable, apes are being sold to children, the feeling is that they are a stop smoking tool for adult and they should not be aimed at children. it is clearly something both parties are to clear to talk about.— to talk about. should be banned from, to talk about. should be banned from. and _ to talk about. should be banned from, and how— to talk about. should be banned from, and how it _ to talk about. should be banned from, and how it is _ to talk about. should be banned from, and how it is displayed i to talk about. should be banned from, and how it is displayed to | from, and how it is displayed to young people, young girls in particular?— young people, young girls in articular? ., ., particular? the government are deel particular? the government are deeply concerned _ particular? the government are deeply concerned about - particular? the government are deeply concerned about this. i particular? the government are i deeply concerned about this. just deeply concerned about this. just recently— deeply concerned about this. just recently we closed quite a few pupils — recently we closed quite a few pupils regarding the ability of vaping — pupils regarding the ability of vaping companies to market and in some _ vaping companies to market and in some cases, even sell nicotine free apes to _ some cases, even sell nicotine free apes to children and the call for evidence — apes to children and the call for evidence hasjust closed on this so the government will be taking action

to that _ the government will be taking action to that very soon so it is something we took— to that very soon so it is something we took seriously.— to that very soon so it is something we took seriously. should there be a bore regulation? _ we took seriously. should there be a bore regulation? it— we took seriously. should there be a bore regulation? it has _ we took seriously. should there be a bore regulation? it hasjust - we took seriously. should there be a bore regulation? it hasjust closed. i bore regulation? it has just closed. should it be more bigoted? there were measures _ should it be more bigoted? there were measures in _ should it be more bigoted? there were measures in the _ should it be more bigoted? there were measures in the health - should it be more bigoted? there were measures in the health and care act 2022— were measures in the health and care act 2022 on— were measures in the health and care act 2022 on this, _ were measures in the health and care act 2022 on this, to— were measures in the health and care act 2022 on this, to deal— were measures in the health and care act 2022 on this, to deal with - were measures in the health and care act 2022 on this, to deal with the - act 2022 on this, to deal with the vapour— act 2022 on this, to deal with the vapour packaging _ act 2022 on this, to deal with the vapour packaging branding - act 2022 on this, to deal with the vapour packaging branding to - act 2022 on this, to deal with the i vapour packaging branding to appeal to children — vapour packaging branding to appeal to children. the _ vapour packaging branding to appeal to children. the tories _ vapour packaging branding to appeal to children. the tories voted - to children. the tories voted against — to children. the tories voted against it _ to children. the tories voted against it. they— to children. the tories voted against it. they had - to children. the tories voted against it. they had a - to children. the tories voted| against it. they had a chance to children. the tories voted i against it. they had a chance in 2022 _ against it. they had a chance in 2022 to — against it. they had a chance in 2022 to do— against it. they had a chance in 2022 to do that. _ against it. they had a chance in 2022 to do that. we _ against it. they had a chance in 2022 to do that. we have - against it. they had a chance in 2022 to do that. we have not i against it. they had a chance in i 2022 to do that. we have not had against it. they had a chance in - 2022 to do that. we have not had the tobacco _ 2022 to do that. we have not had the tobacco control _ 2022 to do that. we have not had the tobacco control plan _ 2022 to do that. we have not had the tobacco control plan which _ 2022 to do that. we have not had the tobacco control plan which we - 2022 to do that. we have not had the tobacco control plan which we are - tobacco control plan which we are still waiting — tobacco control plan which we are still waiting for, _ tobacco control plan which we are still waiting for, but _ tobacco control plan which we are still waiting for, but was - tobacco control plan which we are| still waiting for, but was promised by the _ still waiting for, but was promised by the end — still waiting for, but was promised by the end of— still waiting for, but was promised bythe end of 21 _ still waiting for, but was promised by the end of 21 but _ still waiting for, but was promised by the end of 21 but it— still waiting for, but was promised by the end of 21 but it so- still waiting for, but was promised by the end of 21 but it so has- still waiting for, but was promised by the end of 21 but it so has not. by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived _ by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived so — by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived so we _ by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived so we would _ by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived so we would like - by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived so we would like to - by the end of 21 but it so has not arrived so we would like to see i arrived so we would like to see branded — arrived so we would like to see branded babes— arrived so we would like to see branded babes that _ arrived so we would like to see branded babes that are - arrived so we would like to see i branded babes that are advertised arrived so we would like to see - branded babes that are advertised to children_ branded babes that are advertised to children banned, _ branded babes that are advertised to children banned, people _ branded babes that are advertised to children banned, people like - branded babes that are advertised to children banned, people like to - branded babes that are advertised to children banned, people like to see i children banned, people like to see the government— children banned, people like to see the government to _ children banned, people like to see the government to take _ children banned, people like to see the government to take action - children banned, people like to see the government to take action on l the government to take action on that and — the government to take action on that and we — the government to take action on that and we want _ the government to take action on that and we want to _ the government to take action on that and we want to see - the government to take action on that and we want to see local - that and we want to see local councils — that and we want to see local councils ensuring _ that and we want to see local councils ensuring that - that and we want to see local councils ensuring that the - councils ensuring that the cigarettes _ councils ensuring that the cigarettes are _ councils ensuring that the cigarettes are being - councils ensuring that the cigarettes are being used| councils ensuring that the . cigarettes are being used to councils ensuring that the - cigarettes are being used to stop smoking, — cigarettes are being used to stop smoking, rather— cigarettes are being used to stop smoking, rather than— cigarettes are being used to stop smoking, rather than a _ cigarettes are being used to stop smoking, rather than a new- cigarettes are being used to stopi smoking, rather than a new form cigarettes are being used to stop i smoking, rather than a new form of smoking _ smoking, rather than a new form of smokina. , a, , smoking, rather than a new form of smokin.. t, t, , t, smoking, rather than a new form of smokin. ,, t, , t, t, smoking. that was the idea and there was ent of smoking. that was the idea and there was pent of evidence _ smoking. that was the idea and there was pent of evidence to _ smoking. that was the idea and there was pent of evidence to say _ smoking. that was the idea and there was pent of evidence to say that - smoking. that was the idea and there was pent of evidence to say that it. was pent of evidence to say that it was pent of evidence to say that it was better if you were already a smoker. what about taking on some of

the things labour are suggesting beyond banning the marketing for children? the beyond banning the marketing for children? ., ., ., ~' children? the government will look at an and children? the government will look at any and all _ children? the government will look at any and all action _ children? the government will look at any and all action necessary - children? the government will look at any and all action necessary to i at any and all action necessary to stop this — at any and all action necessary to stop this trade. i think we look forward — stop this trade. i think we look forward to— stop this trade. i think we look forward to the debate with interest. that is_ forward to the debate with interest. that is att— forward to the debate with interest. that is all we have time for, thank you to all of my guests with this part of the programme. i will be back tomorrow for another programme. it is still on the earlier time of 11:16am on bbc two and iplayer. next week we will be back to our normal time of 12:15pm but from all goodbye.

today at one, more calls for the bbc presenter accused of paying a teenager for explicit photos a teenager for explicit photos to come forward. to come forward. after more allegations emerged, former broadcasting executives are among those saying clarity is now needed. the presenter, in my view,

really ought to come forward and talk about it.