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been named as the person facing allegations over payments for sexually explicit images. in the past half hour, the sun newspapers, which has run a number of stories since saturday, has said there are no plans to publish further allegations about huw edwards, and the paper will cooperate with the bbc�*s internal investigation process, according to a spokesperson for the newspaper. huw edwards�*s wife, vicky flind, issued a statement on his behalf, saying...
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so that is the statement they are from the metropolitan police. i'm joined now by laura trant from the bbc news room. we also heard from the south wales police, didn't we? we have, we've had a statement from south wales police who say they first received information about this in april this year regarding the welfare of an adult, saying that no criminality was identified. they said that following recent events, further inquiries had been carried out and officers have spoken to a number of parties to establish whether any criminal allegations are being made. south wales police said that at this time, there is no
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evidence that any criminal offences have been committed. they have said there are no ongoing inquiries being carried out, but that should any evidence of criminality or safeguarding issues be identified at any point in the future, they will be investigated. find any point in the future, they will be investigated.— any point in the future, they will be investigated. and what we've heard from _ be investigated. and what we've heard from the _ be investigated. and what we've heard from the police, _ be investigated. and what we've heard from the police, that - be investigated. and what we've heard from the police, that was | be investigated. and what we've . heard from the police, that was one of the things pointed out to staff by tim devi, when he sent an e—mail out to all staff? i by tim devi, when he sent an e-mail out to all staff?— out to all staff? i have that e-mail here which — out to all staff? i have that e-mail here which all— out to all staff? i have that e-mail here which all staff _ out to all staff? i have that e-mail here which all staff have _ out to all staff? i have that e-mail here which all staff have received l here which all staff have received this evening, and he talked about how this is a stark reminder that in the last few days, we have seen personal lives played out in public, haven't we? that's been what's happened here, and at the heart of this are people and their families. he said this will no doubt be a difficult time for many after a challenging few days, and he said he wants to assure us all that immediate concern is duty of care to
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all those involved, and of course we know there are the individuals involved, the families involved, and colleagues in viewers as well. as you've spoken about this evening, the have given a statement, ijust referred the one from south wales police. the director general explains it's a complex set of circumstances, which it's fair to say. in terms of what the sun newspaper or saying, a spokesperson for the sun have said this evening that the sun has no plans to publish further allegations about huw edwards, and it will cooperate with the bbc and how they carry out their investigation process.— investigation process. laura, thank ou ve investigation process. laura, thank you very much. _ investigation process. laura, thank you very much, laura _ investigation process. laura, thank you very much, laura and - investigation process. laura, thank you very much, laura and our - you very much, laura and our newsroom for us bringing us up to speed with the latest there from the police, and also what we've heard from the director general of the bbc in an e—mailto from the director general of the bbc in an e—mail to all staff. let's go live now to david edelstein, former
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channel five executive, thank you forjoining us. as someone who had the responsibility for running a channel yourself, just what are your reflections on what we've learned today, in light of that, how the bbc has handled the situation? weill. today, in light of that, how the bbc has handled the situation?- has handled the situation? well, i think the bbc — has handled the situation? well, i think the bbc has _ has handled the situation? well, i think the bbc has been _ has handled the situation? well, i think the bbc has been at - has handled the situation? well, i think the bbc has been at fault. has handled the situation? well, i | think the bbc has been at fault but not for the reasons that have been advanced by other commentators. the bbc allowed this to become a bbc story, when it isn't a bbc story. a tv presenter does x, y or z, otherwise foolish, inappropriate, whatever it might be, it's a story about a bbc presenter. the bbc, financing it will do an investigation and saying that it had an internal investigations unit, turned into a story about the bbc.
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some would say that the sun newspaper turned into a story about the bbc. fih newspaper turned into a story about the bbc. , , newspaper turned into a story about the ssc. , , ,, newspaper turned into a story about the bbc. , , ,, ~ newspaper turned into a story about the ssc. , , ,, ~ ., ., the bbc. oh yes, the sun, like a lot of bbc passing newspapers, - the bbc. oh yes, the sun, like a lot of bbc passing newspapers, will. of bbc passing newspapers, will always say at the bbc scandal —— bbc bashing newspapers. unfortunately the bbc walked straight into it, and i still don't understand what this investigations unit is therefore. is it prying into the private lives of its 22,000 employees? obviously if you've got an hr if democrat issue, if huw edwards was harassing underage staff, that's for the hr department. if you've got someone filling their expenses, that would be a finance department issue most what is the investigations unit? i5 what is the investigations unit? is theissue what is the investigations unit? is the issue here not the fact that the parents of this young person
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approach to the bbc and ask them to specifically look into this matter? what did they expect the bbc to do? the bbc is not a police force, it doesn't have any investigative powers, it cannot compel people to give evidence or arrest anyone. all it could ever have done is say to huw edwards, "these people have phoned up and said x, what do you say?" that's not right for an investigation, and it's observed to expect —— absurd to expect anyone outside the bbc to expect the bbc to become some kind of fbi, that's not the bbc�*sjob, nor is it the national health service. it said earlier tonight that the bbc should be helping this young person who is alleged to be a cocaine addict to wean himself off cocaine. i mean honestly... wean himself off cocaine. i mean honestly- - -_ wean himself off cocaine. i mean honestl ...�* “ ., honestly... but the bbc was able to ass on
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honestly... but the bbc was able to pass on this — honestly... but the bbc was able to pass on this information _ honestly... but the bbc was able to pass on this information to - honestly... but the bbc was able to pass on this information to the - pass on this information to the police, who then investigated, and now we have the results of the inquiry and the police have found no criminal activity.— criminal activity. either it's a criminal activity. either it's a criminal offence _ criminal activity. either it's a criminal offence and - criminal activity. either it's a criminal offence and it's - criminal activity. either it's a criminal offence and it's forl criminal activity. either it's a i criminal offence and it's for the police to investigate, or it's not, then it's a personal issue. and unless the person involved will say, "i have a lot of issues, i need to deal with my recurring issues of mental health, and by the way i may have been doing some unwise things with i7—year—olds," that's up to him, but the bbc can't — what will they do, put spies outside huw edwards cosmic house and see he's doing? the guardian media editor asked tim davie the other day about whether the bbc had inspected huw edwards's phone. seriously! the bbc
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should not be in that business, i've worked at lots of broadcasters, i've never come across such a thing. i'm sorry, it's really repellent.— sorry, it's really repellent. well, one of my _ sorry, it's really repellent. well, one of my previous _ sorry, it's really repellent. well, one of my previous guests - sorry, it's really repellent. well, one of my previous guests was l one of my previous guests was pointing out the fact that this has been a big story because it is such a big presenter who has such a big profile, huw edwards is seen as the face of bbc news, and that's why there's been this level of attention.— there's been this level of attention. ., , , there's been this level of attention. ., , attention. look, huw edwards is a sto , attention. look, huw edwards is a story. whether — attention. look, huw edwards is a story, whether he's _ attention. look, huw edwards is a story, whether he's working - attention. look, huw edwards is a story, whether he's working for. attention. look, huw edwards is a l story, whether he's working for itv, bbc, or bbc news. he's a big name with the largest salary in the bbc�*s news division. so of course it would be news as soon as it broke. the only thing that's surprising it's it's taken so many days for his name to become public, because clearly lots of people inside the bbc knew who it was, and clearly he must of
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been agonising with his wife, as we now realise, as to what to do, and she has taken the initiative in making sure he gets hospital treatment and she puts out a statement about the notion that somehow the bbc as an organisation should have been cajoling huw edwards into making a public statement or naming him as the person, it'sjust not statement or naming him as the person, it's just not acceptable, that's not the job of any employer, least of all one which is trying to enjoy a level of public trust. david, thank you very much for joining us with your thoughts there. let's remind ourselves ofjust what's happened, it's been a very busy five days, let's go back to laura trant, who will now... let's take a look at the events of the
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past few days that have got us to this point. on friday last week, the sun published its first report carrying a mother's claims that an unnamed bbc presenter paid thousands to their 20—year—old child for explicit images over three years. they claimed it started when they were 17, which is a potential criminal offence. further it allegations are published on saturday, and on sunday, the bbc suspended a male member of staff who we know to be huw edwards. on monday, bbc executives met with the metropolitan police, who started work to possess evidence whilst the 20—year—old mentioned in the first the sun story declined the claim to lawyers. the sun published claims that the bbc presenter broke lockdown rules to visit a younger person. the same day, bbc published claims that the percent centre sent menacing messages to someone in their early 20s. then just before
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6pm this evening, the met police confirmed they had assessed there was no evidence of criminal activity after speaking to people involved in the initial allegations. the paused bbc investigation then resumed. at the same time, huw edwards's wife, vicky flind, issued her statement, confirming huw edwards was the presenter involved. she said doctor added that her husband intended to respond to the stories that have been published once he is able to. it's a lot to get through, let's now speak to the former guardian if it —— former guardian editor in chief. thank you very much, we've been getting a lot of reaction to what's been revealed today, and of course the fact that the revelation that huw edwards is the presenter at the heart of the story, that revelation was made by his wife. your thoughts on that? i was made by his wife. your thoughts on that? ~ , , on that? i think the first thing is to hoe on that? i think the first thing is
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to hepe that _ on that? i think the first thing is to hope that there _ on that? i think the first thing is to hope that there will- on that? i think the first thing is to hope that there will be - on that? i think the first thing is to hope that there will be a - on that? i think the first thing is l to hope that there will be a period of restraint by all media in view of the circumstances that have been revealed tonight. but i think there will also have to be a period of self reflection for the bbc, but also by the sun, about this story and how it came into being, and the frankly delicate lines between private life and public life, which i think have been overstepped here. when you say lines have been overstepped, could you just explain that in detail? because of course, there was a situation where the sun published this story, and whether the bbc responded to it or not, this was being discussed on social media, and that introduced a very brave new front for this entire situation. well, the normal behaviour of a newspaper presenting something like this is to say, "we named a guilty
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man." but they didn't, i think they hoped they could go to the bbc into naming a guilty man. so what we've had is five days of really cruel behaviour to everybody concerned, including the innocent, which must be undeniable at the time. i see the sun... a story around an hour ago on the sun's website, the headline, "the top bbc presenter who paid a child for sex pictures could face years in prison, expert says." that was a strong implication behind the story, and yet the police have come out tonight and said there was no evidence of criminal behaviour. incredible when you think about, really, considering everything that had been said, incredible how strong his wife must�*ve been to put out
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this statement without any malice, really, and just lay out the facts. yes, i think she's commendably seized the initiative, and one can only imagine _ seized the initiative, and one can only imagine the _ seized the initiative, and one can only imagine the distress - seized the initiative, and one can only imagine the distress within l only imagine the distress within that family. but i think the sun has to answer questions about what evidence they had originally why they published without contacting they published without contacting the teenager, why they barely reported his denial, what privacy rights they considered came into play in the absence of any criminal behaviour, and why nobody from the sun has made any interviews or presented themselves, or any evidence over the last five days. i think that contrasts markedly with the behaviour of the bbc, which to my mind has gone overboard in
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flagellating its self over its behaviour. but clearly there are questions for both organisations now. �* ., questions for both organisations now. ~ . , ., , questions for both organisations now. . , ., , ., now. and are there questions for, i su ose, now. and are there questions for, i sunpose. wider— now. and are there questions for, i suppose, wider privacy _ suppose, wider privacy conversations? because when you look at the constraints that bind to both the sun newspaper and the bbc from naming the presenter against their will, there wasn't such a restraint on social media at all?— on social media at all? know, but the bbc doesn't _ on social media at all? know, but the bbc doesn't escape _ on social media at all? know, but the bbc doesn't escape blame . on social media at all? know, but i the bbc doesn't escape blame here, yes they published a story about the man we now know to be huw edwards, saying he was on a dating app and that he made contact with somebody in their 20s, that he made contact with somebody in their20s, ie that he made contact with somebody in their 20s, ie an adult, they never met and nothing ever happened, according to this adult, he then threatened to name huw edwards in public, and huw edwards got very angry. now arguably that could be an hr issue for the bbc, it could be a question of reputation reputational
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concern for the bbc, but otherwise it's an entirely private matter —— a question of reputational concern. but clearly if you're famous in using dating apps which are a blurred space in the public domain, i think there are clearly issues there which society is just having to begin to think about. i there which society isjust having to begin to think about. i suppose one of the issues _ to begin to think about. i suppose one of the issues here _ to begin to think about. i suppose| one of the issues here that people have been wondering about is why the bbc has reported on this the way it has — and that's an interesting distinction there, isn't it, in the sense that bbc news has to report on the bbc as a corporation as if it was any other?— was any other? yes, and that's completely _ was any other? yes, and that's completely admirable - was any other? yes, and that's completely admirable and - was any other? yes, and that's - completely admirable and remarkably different from the way that the other press reports on its own doings, and you'll read about the sun paying hundreds of millions of
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pounds for people who claim they intruded into their privacy, there's just no reporting of that. so commendably, the bbc does look into itself. but when the bbc last night was leading it's 10pm noon for 13 minutes, beginning with was leading it's10pm noon for 13 minutes, beginning with the story about huw edwards using a dating app —— 10pm news, that seems to have lost any sense of proportion. -- 10pm news, that seems to have lost any sense of proportion. where to our lost any sense of proportion. where to your mind. _ lost any sense of proportion. where to your mind. as — lost any sense of proportion. where to your mind, as you _ lost any sense of proportion. where to your mind, as you say, _ lost any sense of proportion. where to your mind, as you say, if- lost any sense of proportion. where to your mind, as you say, if that's l to your mind, as you say, if that's a loss of a sense of proportion, where is that coming from? because let's not forget, this is a story that on social media was really dominating conversation, the public would've expected to see something about this. i would've expected to see something about this. ., �* �* , about this. i think the bbc will be about this. i think the bbc will be a ublicl about this. i think the bbc will be a publicly funded _ about this. i think the bbc will be a publicly funded service - a publicly funded service broadcaster, which i wholly back and it has huge levels of trust and is a huge institution, it should rise above the level of thinking as to
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respond everything on social media. indeed, i heard tim davie say that in the past, it can't delete the macro behave as if everything in the tabloids will rule its life. i think it has to be better than that —— it can't behave as if. it has to be better than that -- it can't behave as if.— it has to be better than that -- it can't behave as if. looking at the rather difficult _ can't behave as if. looking at the rather difficult situation - can't behave as if. looking at the rather difficult situation for - can't behave as if. looking at the rather difficult situation for the i rather difficult situation for the bbc now, and internal inquiry to be continued while we now know that huw edwards is in hospital, receiving treatment for a serious mental health episode, that's a difficult balance, the duty of care to huw edwards, but also to the family that have made the complaint?— have made the complaint? really difficult. ithink— have made the complaint? really difficult. i think the _ have made the complaint? really difficult. i think the questions - difficult. i think the questions about the bbc go to the nature of what they did when they first learned about this back in may, why there wasn't more effort to contact there wasn't more effort to contact the family if that's what happened,
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why there were no red flags to get this further up the chain of command, and why no one thought it appropriate to let huw edwards himself know, that seemed to be a primary answer that i her question the bbc needs to answer. —— a primary question. that's an hr question, a representational question, a representational question, but i think it's unwise for people who are not in command to speculate at the moment of the future of huw edwards's career at the bbc. , ., , ., , the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the issue. — the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the issue, and _ the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the issue, and i— the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the issue, and i think _ the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the issue, and i think david - the bbc. indeed, but it does raise the issue, and i think david was . the issue, and i think david was talking about this earlier, that this is a story about a tv presenter, but the fact that it's huw edwards and the fact that his profile is what it is, that makes it incredibly difficult to put that to one side, and the bbc to one side.
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he's a big name, he a famous person, and there's clearly a story there. i don't think anyone could deny that. but, given the fact that, as we now know, no evidence of criminality and his known mental health issues, i think this is a his known mental health issues, i think this i— think this is a story that deserved to be handled _ think this is a story that deserved to be handled with _ think this is a story that deserved to be handled with the _ think this is a story that deserved to be handled with the greatest l think this is a story that deserved | to be handled with the greatest of sensitivity, and as i said at the beginning, i think it is telling that the sun didn't name him, i don't think that was out of any particular concern for his well—being, i think it was because they must�*ve been advised that they would be legally foolish to do so. alan, thank you so much for your time. earlier i spoke to the media lawyer, matthew gill, who gave me his reaction to the statements from
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huw edwards's wife and the metropolitan police. we huw edwards's wife and the metropolitan police. we are all mindful today _ metropolitan police. we are all mindful today of _ metropolitan police. we are all mindful today of the _ metropolitan police. we are all mindful today of the defence . mindful today of the defence statement, and that huw edwards has been admitted to hospital, and of course we all want to take that into account when now talking about these allegations. it is clearly a big step forward for the met police to have concluded that based on the information they have, there was no criminal activity in respect to these allegations. that will of course raise questions about the sun's initial reporting of the allegations. of course we now know the allegations were disputed by the young person said to have been involved, and also know there was no criminality to it, so far as the
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police are concerned. so there are some questions to be answered there. of some questions to be answered there. of course now the bbc, as they have said, will continue their investigation into what has happened here, and i'm sure they will consider it not only the first set of allegations, but the three other allegations we've seen over the last few days. it's right and proper that they do so. flit few days. it's right and proper that they do so-— they do so. of course, one of the mainlines — they do so. of course, one of the mainlines is _ they do so. of course, one of the mainlines is very _ they do so. of course, one of the mainlines is very important - they do so. of course, one of the mainlines is very important to . they do so. of course, one of the i mainlines is very important to take away from today, is the police coming back and saying they see no evidence of criminal activity. where does that leave us with the legal landscape in this case? i mentioned already there _ landscape in this case? i mentioned already there are _ landscape in this case? i mentioned already there are some _ landscape in this case? i mentioned already there are some challenges. already there are some challenges here for the sun newspaper, as you mentioned earlier, the original reporting on this by the son suggested that huw edwards had paid a young person of 17 years old huge
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sums of money for indecent images. now seeking to obtain or possess indecent images of a person under the age of 18 is a criminal offence, and we now know that the evidence that has been handed to the police didn't meet that threshold for even an investigation into whether there had been a criminal offence. and if it were found that those words that were published in the sun newspaper were published in the sun newspaper were defamatory of huw edwards, and certainly they have damaged his reputation, they could be serious consequences for the sun newspaper. and there were several questions put to the bbc about why the bbc was not naming the presenter at the heart of these allegations — how does that look to you now, given what we've heard from vicky flind, speaking about the situation that he's in, theissues about the situation that he's in, the issues he's facing with mental health, the fact that he is at this
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time in hospital receiving mental treatment? flit time in hospital receiving mental treatment?— treatment? of course, as we've discussed — treatment? of course, as we've discussed several _ treatment? of course, as we've discussed several times - treatment? of course, as we've discussed several times over i treatment? of course, as we've| discussed several times over the last few days, the bbc have a duty of care to their employees, and i'm sure that huw edwards's mental health will have played a factor in that equation. equally, untilthe latest statement from the met police, there was a suggestion of criminality, and in those circumstances it's inappropriate to discuss the criminal allegations raised, and attach them to a specific person where no charges might be brought, the allegations might be brought, the allegations might be brought, the allegations might be faults, or they may not meet the criminal threshold as the police have said today. and so, you can see, and i can certainly sympathise with the bbc in their decision not to name huw edwards at an earlier stage. bud decision not to name huw edwards at an earlier stage.— an earlier stage. and so, in terms ofthe an earlier stage. and so, in terms of the bbc — an earlier stage. and so, in terms
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of the bbc continuing _ an earlier stage. and so, in terms of the bbc continuing their - an earlier stage. and so, in terms of the bbc continuing their own i of the bbc continuing their own investigation, what sort of questions would they need to be asking? questions would they need to be askin: ? ., �* �* �* questions would they need to be askinu? ., “ �* , , asking? now the bbc i'm sure will be s-ueakin to asking? now the bbc i'm sure will be speaking to the _ asking? now the bbc i'm sure will be speaking to the complainants - asking? now the bbc i'm sure will be speaking to the complainants in i speaking to the complainants in all four of the occasions that have been discussed in the media over the last few days, i'm sure they will also speak to the young person in the case of the first allocation, who as we know wasn't the complainant. and in time, when huw edwards is in a position to be able to speak to the bbc, of course they'll seek his views on the allegations that have been made. views on the allegations that have been made-— been made. and for the sun, the auestions been made. and for the sun, the questions of _ been made. and for the sun, the questions of course _ been made. and for the sun, the questions of course of _ been made. and for the sun, the questions of course of the - been made. and for the sun, the questions of course of the sun i questions of course of the sun newspaper, the questions that you've already set forth, do you think there could be further questions, maybe even action based on the fact that they chose to publish the story? i that they chose to publish the sto ? .. that they chose to publish the sto ? ~ ., �* , that they chose to publish the sto ? .. . �* . .. story? i think that's right, i think several questions _ story? i think that's right, i think several questions have _ story? i think that's right, i think several questions have been i story? i think that's right, i think. several questions have been asked story? i think that's right, i think- several questions have been asked of the sun over the past few days, in
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particular the sun hadn't disclosed much evidence of criminality, in particular the allegation that huw edwards had been paying money to a 17—year—old for images, and i think questions will be asked as to whether the sun had seen any evidence of the allegation, or whether, that assertion was a mere allegation by the parents. the sun newspaper will have done their due before printing this story, but mistakes are made and occasionally are made byjournalists, and it remains to be seen whether there were mistakes made in the process of publishing this article.— publishing this article. speaking earlier to that _ publishing this article. speaking earlier to that matthew - publishing this article. speaking earlier to that matthew gill, i publishing this article. speaking earlier to that matthew gill, an | earlier to that matthew gill, an earlier to that matthew gill, an earlier i spoke to tim longhurst, a former bbc news executive. i worked with huw edwards _ former bbc news executive. i worked with huw edwards when _ former bbc news executive. i worked with huw edwards when he _ former bbc news executive. i worked with huw edwards when he was i former bbc news executive. i worked with huw edwards when he was a i former bbc news executive. i worked l with huw edwards when he was a young political correspondent, i had huge regard for him then, and i have huge regard for him then, and i have huge
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regard for him now. he's an enormously generous man, a man who's done a great deal to help many others in the bbc during their careers and was always willing to work extremely hard and with enormous professionalism. so, i've heard his name for many days, but i've always hoped it would turn out not to be true. it is a genuine personal tragedy for huw edwards, a nationalfigure personal tragedy for huw edwards, a national figure who has personal tragedy for huw edwards, a nationalfigure who has been placed at the centre of a scandal in which clearly he has some role, and that is in itself tragic for hugh and his family. but he is someone who will be remembered very affectionately, and i very much hope there will be a be remembered very affectionately, and i very much there will be a and i very much hope there will be a way back for huw edwards in some way back for huw edwards in some way, because he's an enormously way, because he's an enormously talented man and it's terribly sad to hear he is so unwell. i talented man and it's terribly sad to hear he is so unwell. i talented man and it's terribly sad to hear he is so unwell.— to hear he is so unwell. i want to brin: in talented man and it's terribly sad to hear he is so unwell.— to hear he is so unwell. i want to brin: in to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a — to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new— to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new and _ to hear he is so unwell. i want to to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a — to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new— to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new and _ to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new and we _ to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new and we are - to hear he is so unwell. i want to| bring in a new and we are getting bring in a new and we _ to hear he is so unwell. i want to bring in a new and we are - to hear he is so unwell. i want to| bring in a new and we are getting from south wales police, they've from they've said in a statement that south wales from south wales police, they've said in a statement that south wales police has remained in contact with police has remained in contact with representatives of the metropolitan
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police following a meeting on metropolitan representatives of the metropolitan police following a meeting on monday, they've talked about monday, they've talked about information that they initially information that they initially received by the force... regarding received by the force... regarding the welfare of an adult, and they the welfare adult, and they say no criminality was identified. the welfare of an adult, and they say no criminality was identified. following recent events, further following recent events, inquiries have been carried out and officers have spoken to a number of say no criminality was identified. followii have ent events, say no criminality was identified. followii have spoken 1ts, say no criminality was identified. followii have spoken to , say no criminality was identified. followii have spoken to a number officers have spoken to a number of parties to establish whether any just parties to establish whether any criminal allegations are being made. criminal allegations are at this time there is no evidence parties to establish whether any crimint time gations are parties to establish whether any crimint time there is are parties to establish whether any crimint time there is are parties to establish whether any crimint time there is no evidence that any criminal offences have been at this time there is no evidence that any criminal offences have been committed, there are no ongoing committed, there are no inquiries being carried out by south that any criminal offences have been committed, th carried to that any criminal offences have been committed, th carried out by south wales police. however, should inquiries being carried out by south wales police. however, should evidence of criminality or evidence of criminality or safeguarding issues be identified at safeguarding issues be any point in the future, then they evidence of criminality or safeguardin the ues be evidence of criminality or safeguardin the future, then they will be investigated. so that is a statement we've just received from south wales police confirming just as the metropolitan police did earlier today, that their investigations have yielded no criminal offences. they have identified that no criminal offences have been committed and there's no ongoing investigation any more. so
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