so, in 2015, elon musk co—founded the company open ai. since then, the company has gone on to develop chat gpt, the system that is taking the world by storm —— chatgpt. musk said it posed of profound risk to humanity. that self—imposed moratorium didn't last very long. in a tweet today from the world's which is man, he announced... —— world's richest man. which sounds pretty broad. the first reality is elon musk as being left behind by chatgpt or google. virginia is professor of responsible ai at mary university in sweden. did i pronounce that right?

almost. i'm not swedish originally, so i wouldn't try to improve! all so i wouldn't try to improve! all riaht, so i wouldn't try to improve! all right, good, iget so i wouldn't try to improve! all right, good, i get away with one! last week, mark zuckerberg launches threads on a whim, it seemed, to stick one in the eye to elon musk. this has a similar whiff to me. do you think that is what it is? he sees what everyone is doing and he wants a piece of it? i sees what everyone is doing and he wants a piece of it?— wants a piece of it? i wouldn't presume _ wants a piece of it? i wouldn't presume to — wants a piece of it? iwouldn't presume to know— wants a piece of it? i wouldn't presume to know what - wants a piece of it? i wouldn't presume to know what elon i wants a piece of it? i wouldn't . presume to know what elon musk wants a piece of it? i wouldn't - presume to know what elon musk wants or thinks, presume to know what elon musk wants orthinks, but presume to know what elon musk wants or thinks, but i think that is a type of reaction that we will be seeing much more often from. al is big business at the moment. so i think that we will be seeing a lot of people, organisations, countries trying to get a piece of the pie.

this seems to be one of those efforts to me. fix, this seems to be one of those efforts to me.— this seems to be one of those efforts to me. a lot of people will wonder what _ efforts to me. a lot of people will wonder what he's _ efforts to me. a lot of people will wonder what he's going _ efforts to me. a lot of people will wonder what he's going to - efforts to me. a lot of people will wonder what he's going to do - efforts to me. a lot of people will| wonder what he's going to do with it. do you think he's learned some valuable lessons at twitter unaccountability, on transparency, on safeguarding? 0r unaccountability, on transparency, on safeguarding? or not? i’m unaccountability, on transparency, on safeguarding? or not? i'm afraid not. if! on safeguarding? or not? i'm afraid not- if i see — on safeguarding? or not? i'm afraid not. if! see his _ on safeguarding? or not? i'm afraid not. if i see his tweets _ on safeguarding? or not? i'm afraid not. if i see his tweets today, - not. if i see his tweets today, understanding reality, ithink not. if i see his tweets today, understanding reality, i think the first thing to understand about reality is for a large part, reality is a social construct. if we are going to understand that, we cannot do it only with engineers, which is what they are in their website. engineers are great at answering our questions. i'm an engineer myself, but i know we are aware that we need to ask the "why" questions. we need the diverse group of people if there is any attempt to understand

reality. is any attempt to understand reali . ,., ., is any attempt to understand reali . ., ., ., ., reality. going to more detail on that, ou reality. going to more detail on that, you must've _ reality. going to more detail on that, you must've thought - reality. going to more detail on| that, you must've thought about reality. going to more detail on - that, you must've thought about that today. what you think understanding reality means? i today. what you think understanding reality means?— today. what you think understanding reality means? i think what he wants is to no reality means? i think what he wants is to go and — reality means? i think what he wants is to go and play _ reality means? i think what he wants is to go and play with _ reality means? i think what he wants is to go and play with the _ reality means? i think what he wants is to go and play with the other- is to go and play with the other organisations that accompany on developing this generic ai, the latest trend in al, which is systems that are able to generate very humanlike conversations, fairly humanlike conversations, fairly humanlike images, humanlike interactions. i wouldn't dare to say or to claim that those are understanding the next steps. i might be an addition is needed to understand funding of reality, but for that, understand funding of reality, but forthat, i understand funding of reality, but for that, i would expect and i would hope that he had learned both from the dim moratorium letter and

companies that need to take a much more inclusive approach. for them to be aligned with what they want. in terms of democratic accountability and ensuring this development is for the benefit of all of us and our taking into account the needs and the risks that many people have foreseen. ., the risks that many people have foreseen. . ., ~ the risks that many people have foreseen. ., . ~' , ., the risks that many people have foreseen. . ., ,, , ., ., foreseen. virginia, thank you for that. foreseen. virginia, thank you for that- let's _ foreseen. virginia, thank you for that. let's talk _ foreseen. virginia, thank you for that. let's talk about _ foreseen. virginia, thank you for that. let's talk about that - foreseen. virginia, thank you for that. let's talk about that with i that. let's talk about that with our panel. doug, another republican we have on the show sometimes spent a lot of time talking to committees. he's deeply concerned that congressmen, senators, don't understand that is going on here and haven't come up with the safety protocols that elon musk was demanding just a few months ago. if you go back about three years ago,

we had _ you go back about three years ago, we had hearings on facebook and twitter_ we had hearings on facebook and twitter and google, and we saw united — twitter and google, and we saw united states senators really digging into this platforms. the questions that they asked showed they really didn't know it all what they really didn't know it all what they were — they really didn't know it all what they were talking about. as we've moved _ they were talking about. as we've moved forward on things like ai, you can say— moved forward on things like ai, you can say the _ moved forward on things like ai, you can say the same about cryptocurrency, congress is still very— cryptocurrency, congress is still very ill—informed. this is moving so quickly, _ very ill—informed. this is moving so quickly, trying to put any kind of structure — quickly, trying to put any kind of structure or legislation for one is going _ structure or legislation for one is going to — structure or legislation for one is going to be very difficult and will be behind the her by definition. —— behind _ be behind the her by definition. —— behind the — be behind the her by definition. —— behind the curve. is be behind the her by definition. -- behind the curve.— behind the curve. is moving very fast. it's now _ behind the curve. is moving very fast. it's now in _ behind the curve. is moving very fast. it's now in 40 _ behind the curve. is moving very fast. it's now in 40 different - fast. it's now in a0 different languages, so it is a very competitive market out there. there are new entrance all the time. do you believe the british government has a handle on this? it you believe the british government has a handle on this?—

you believe the british government has a handle on this? it seems to me i am... i has a handle on this? it seems to me i am- -- i am — has a handle on this? it seems to me iam--- lam very— has a handle on this? it seems to me i am... i am very nervous _ has a handle on this? it seems to me i am... i am very nervous at - has a handle on this? it seems to me i am... i am very nervous at the - i am... i am very nervous at the thought— i am... i am very nervous at the thought that this _ i am... i am very nervous at the thought that this technology - i am... i am very nervous at the thought that this technology sol thought that this technology so crucial — thought that this technology so crucial to — thought that this technology so crucial to all— thought that this technology so crucial to all of— thought that this technology so crucial to all of us _ thought that this technology so crucial to all of us on _ thought that this technology so crucial to all of us on the - thought that this technology so | crucial to all of us on the planet is going — crucial to all of us on the planet is going to _ crucial to all of us on the planet is going to he _ crucial to all of us on the planet is going to be developed - 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the space, the eu is well advanced with a _ the space, the eu is well advanced with a law— the space, the eu is well advanced with a law to— the space, the eu is well advanced with a law to set _ the space, the eu is well advanced with a law to set some _ the space, the eu is well advanced with a law to set some municipal. with a law to set some municipal norms— with a law to set some municipal norms around _ with a law to set some municipal norms around ai. _ with a law to set some municipal norms around ai. rishi - with a law to set some municipal norms around ai. rishi sunak. with a law to set some municipall norms around ai. rishi sunak has called _ norms around ai. rishi sunak has called a _ norms around ai. rishi sunak has called a summit— norms around ai. rishi sunak has called a summit in— norms around ai. rishi sunak has called a summit in the _ norms around ai. rishi sunak has called a summit in the autumn i norms around ai. rishi sunak has called a summit in the autumn in| called a summit in the autumn in which _ called a summit in the autumn in which you — called a summit in the autumn in which you want _ called a summit in the autumn in which you want to _ called a summit in the autumn in which you want to try— called a summit in the autumn in which you want to try to - called a summit in the autumn in which you want to try to get - called a summit in the autumn in which you want to try to get as l which you want to try to get as many countries _ which you want to try to get as many countries as — which you want to try to get as many countries as possible _ which you want to try to get as many countries as possible around - which you want to try to get as many countries as possible around the - countries as possible around the table. _ countries as possible around the table, including _ countries as possible around the table, including china, - countries as possible around the table, including china, he - countries as possible around the i table, including china, he hopes. it's precisely— table, including china, he hopes. it's precisely to— table, including china, he hopes. it's precisely to start _ table, including china, he hopes. it's precisely to start to _ table, including china, he hopes. it's precisely to start to put - table, including china, he hopes. j it's precisely to start to put some guidelines— it's precisely to start to put some guidelines around _ it's precisely to start to put some guidelines around this _ it's precisely to start to put some guidelines around this industry i guidelines around this industry before — guidelines around this industry before it's _ guidelines around this industry before it's too _ guidelines around this industry before it's too late. _ guidelines around this industry before it's too late. i _ guidelines around this industry before it's too late. i don't - guidelines around this industry. before it's too late. i don't think britain _ before it's too late. i don't think britain can— before it's too late. i don't think britain can be _ before it's too late. i don't think britain can be the _ before it's too late. i don't think britain can be the norm - before it's too late. i don't think britain can be the norm settingl britain can be the norm setting power~ — britain can be the norm setting power~ that _ britain can be the norm setting power. that will _ britain can be the norm setting power. that will be _ britain can be the norm setting power. that will be between i britain can be the norm settingl power. that will be between the americans. _ power. that will be between the americans, the _ power. that will be between the americans, the chinese - power. that will be between the americans, the chinese and - americans, the chinese and europeans, _ americans, the chinese and europeans, but— americans, the chinese and europeans, but at _ americans, the chinese and europeans, but at least - americans, the chinese and europeans, but at least the| americans, the chinese and i europeans, but at least the uk americans, the chinese and - europeans, but at least the uk can play a _ europeans, but at least the uk can play a part — europeans, but at least the uk can play a part. none _ europeans, but at least the uk can play a part. none that _ europeans, but at least the uk can play a part. none that it's - europeans, but at least the uk can play a part. none that it's going. europeans, but at least the uk can play a part. none that it's going to| play a part. none that it's going to be play a part. none that it's going to he convening, _ play a part. none that it's going to be convening, the _ play a part. none that it's going to be convening, the leaders - play a part. none that it's going to be convening, the leaders of- play a part. none that it's going to be convening, the leaders of the l be convening, the leaders of the ai universe, _ be convening, the leaders of the ai

universe, to — be convening, the leaders of the ai universe, to begin— be convening, the leaders of the ai universe, to begin to _ be convening, the leaders of the ai universe, to begin to put _ be convening, the leaders of the ai universe, to begin to put some - universe, to begin to put some regulatory— universe, to begin to put some regulatory shape _ universe, to begin to put some regulatory shape around - universe, to begin to put some regulatory shape around it. - universe, to begin to put some. regulatory shape around it. that said, regulatory shape around it. that said. doug. _ regulatory shape around it. that said. doug. we _ regulatory shape around it. that said, doug, we don't— regulatory shape around it. tiiiii�*n said, doug, we don't want regulatory shape around it. said, doug, we don't want to restrict it. i was reading a story about the mayo clinic, who are using ai about the mayo clinic, who are using alto about the mayo clinic, who are using al to spot polyps and using it to read scams and get to the bottom of some cancer diagnoses. we've just been talking about trying to save money in our public services and we can't do it at the same level. maybe we can if we can take some of the responsibilities away from the front line staff. that's where a! could be immensely valuable. line staff. that's where ai could be immensely valuable.— line staff. that's where ai could be immensely valuable. absolutely. when we look at what — immensely valuable. absolutely. when we look at what it _ immensely valuable. absolutely. when we look at what it could _ immensely valuable. absolutely. when we look at what it could do _ immensely valuable. absolutely. when we look at what it could do with - we look at what it could do with impacts on the medical world, clearly al _ impacts on the medical world, clearly ai is the future and will have _ clearly ai is the future and will have all— clearly ai is the future and will have all kinds of amazing benefits for people to prevent cancers, to cure _ for people to prevent cancers, to cure cancers. just look at the mapping _ cure cancers. just look at the mapping of the genome where ai can do these _ mapping of the genome where ai can do these things in seconds. we also have two— do these things in seconds. we also have two problems. one is the good intentions _ have two problems. one is the good intentions that could go wrong and

the other— intentions that could go wrong and the other is the bad intentions that start off— the other is the bad intentions that start off in — the other is the bad intentions that start off in that direction. when we put these _ start off in that direction. when we put these countries together, it's going _ put these countries together, it's going to — put these countries together, it's going to be very important for china to he _ going to be very important for china to he at— going to be very important for china to be at that table, but we know that china — to be at that table, but we know that china will look to recognise this first — that china will look to recognise this first and foremost, and that should _ this first and foremost, and that should give leaders a real pause about— should give leaders a real pause about the — should give leaders a real pause about the next steps.— should give leaders a real pause about the next steps. virginia, we note elon musk— about the next steps. virginia, we note elon musk doesn't _ about the next steps. virginia, we note elon musk doesn't do - about the next steps. virginia, we note elon musk doesn't do things | about the next steps. virginia, we l note elon musk doesn't do things by halves. his space programme has been immensely successful. the only question is, do legislators and governments need to bring him in and say this is what we want from him and this is what we don't want? i think that legislators and governments need to take a stance by themselves. i don't think legislation on al, whatever that will be, should be detected by the tech billionaires, the tech billionaires. we need to regulate it from the developments. having said

that, i think all technology, not necessarily on the ai, requires to be aligned with human rights, with societal principles. maybe the way to go is not so much to fix on the regular dating technology itself but the really ensuring that the development �*s are aligned with human rights. at the same time, china at this moment, one of the countries taking steps towards regulation. just this week, they have come forward with some regulation around genetic ai. so, it seems to me that it's not something... we keep saying china will not do it. but china is as concerned as the rest of the world from what i can see from their developments about regulating about it. , ., , , .,

developments about regulating about it. ,., developments about regulating about it. the question is you can do it unilaterally.... _ it. the question is you can do it unilaterally. . .. crosstalk - unilaterally.... crosstalk i have to leave it there. thank you very much for your expertise. i want to talk about the governor of florida, who has a big problem. the polls suggest that more than boulders learn about him, the less they approve. he's almost camped in iowa at the moment. trying to reboot a challenge to donald trump. why does this all matter? those who don't want trump were probably hoping he could deny him or at least split the maga vote. virginia governor defy the odds in 2013. doug, what is going wrong with ron desantis�*s campaign? i

doug, what is going wrong with ron desantis's campaign?— doug, what is going wrong with ron desantis's campaign? i think he came into the race — desantis's campaign? i think he came into the race with _ desantis's campaign? i think he came into the race with too _ desantis's campaign? i think he came into the race with too high _ into the race with too high expectations. he was designated as the official trump slayer, on the fact that — the official trump slayer, on the fact that trump hasn't been slain yet is _ fact that trump hasn't been slain yet is now— fact that trump hasn't been slain yet is now viewed on a failure on ron desantis. i think it's early for that we — ron desantis. i think it's early for that. we haven't had any debates yet and if— that. we haven't had any debates yet and if this— that. we haven't had any debates yet and if this nomination will go through donald trump, not around him _ through donald trump, not around him. there's no opportunity for ron desantis _ him. there's no opportunity for ron desantis or— him. there's no opportunity for ron desantis or tim scott, nikki haley, mike pence or anyone else to do that until we have debates. donald trump may not— until we have debates. donald trump may not show up at those debates. until these — may not show up at those debates. until these candidates are standing next to— until these candidates are standing next to each other, taking each other— next to each other, taking each other on— next to each other, taking each other on directly, i think it's really— other on directly, i think it's really premature to start writing anything — really premature to start writing anything for a funeral for ron desantis _ anything for a funeral for ron desantis at this point. he is still very well—funded and he's still popular— very well—funded and he's still popular with the base. very well-funded and he's still popular with the base.- very well-funded and he's still popular with the base. they're all there in iowa. _ popular with the base. they're all there in iowa. with _ popular with the base. they're all there in iowa. with one _ popular with the base. they're all there in iowa. with one notable l there in iowa. with one notable exception, and that is donald trump himself, which perhaps reflects the thinking in his camp that there is

little to be gained at this stage by joining the others on stage. it is remarkable, the impregnable league that he has. he's almost 30 points ahead, despite the allegations he's facing. irlat ahead, despite the allegations he's facina. ., ., , ,, , facing. not only despite them, but because of them _ facing. not only despite them, but because of them to _ facing. not only despite them, but because of them to some - facing. not only despite them, but because of them to some extent. l facing. not only despite them, but - because of them to some extent. what happened _ because of them to some extent. what happened with these indictments, sort of— happened with these indictments, sort of buttresses what trump's messages has always been. the system is rigged _ messages has always been. the system is rigged i_ messages has always been. the system is rigged. i don't think that's true, — is rigged. i don't think that's true, but _ is rigged. i don't think that's true, but certainly has been able to use that _ true, but certainly has been able to use that for— true, but certainly has been able to use that for his benefit. he may try to deny— use that for his benefit. he may try to deny his — use that for his benefit. he may try to deny his opponent the oxygen, but the reality— to deny his opponent the oxygen, but the reality is that if donald trump wins the — the reality is that if donald trump wins the iowa caucus, he's probably going _ wins the iowa caucus, he's probably going to _ wins the iowa caucus, he's probably going to win— wins the iowa caucus, he's probably going to win new hampshire. this rate may— going to win new hampshire. this rate may be over at this point. i rate may be over at this point. noticed rate may be over at this point. i noticed tucker carlson is the man doing the one once it down. he appears to be the judge and jury over maga america at the moment. let's talk about what been all is

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long ups and downs of sweden's history? long ups and downs of sweden's histo ? ., ., ,, ., history? hello we talked about finland, history? hello we talked about finland. so _ history? hello we talked about finland, so let's _ history? hello we talked about finland, so let's have - history? hello we talked about finland, so let's have a - history? hello we talked about finland, so let's have a look i history? hello we talked about finland, so let's have a look at sweden now? it has been a roller coaster ride. sweden was the great power in northern europe and the 17th century with a warrior king. after the napoleonic wars, they shrink and embarked on two centuries of neutrality. when i was an ambassador in the 20005, sweden was very neutral, but also a very active country. now it's going to become a member of nato and we should all benefit from that. at the very top of the period of swedish power in the 17th century, they even had a colony in america. it's an area which is now part of delaware. i wonder whether president invited himself might have some swedi5h background. d0

himself might have some swedish background-— himself might have some swedish backuround. ., ., , ,, , background. do you have any swedish neiahbours, background. do you have any swedish neighbours. doug? — background. do you have any swedish neighbours, doug? not— background. do you have any swedish neighbours, doug? not here, - neighbours, doug? not here, unfortunately. _ neighbours, doug? not here, unfortunately. big _ neighbours, doug? not here, unfortunately. big success, . neighbours, doug? not here, - unfortunately. big success, though, nettina unfortunately. big success, though, getting sweden _ unfortunately. big success, though, getting sweden across _ unfortunately. big success, though, getting sweden across the - unfortunately. big success, though, getting sweden across the line, - getting sweden across the line, because i listened to a national security adviser on friday who wasn't sure they would be able to put the veto from turkey a5ide. that's the big win that present biting comes back with. without cuestion. biting comes back with. without question- as — biting comes back with. without question. as someone - biting comes back with. without question. as someone said, - biting comes back with. without| question. as someone said, one biting comes back with. without i question. as someone said, one of the big _ question. as someone said, one of the big missteps we've seen from vladimir— the big missteps we've seen from vladimir putin is his actions have unified _ vladimir putin is his actions have unified the — vladimir putin is his actions have unified the west and strengthened nato with expanding its membership in a way— nato with expanding its membership in a way that nobody would have thought — in a way that nobody would have thou:ht. , , ., ., ., thought. very proud nation, peter. we had a former— thought. very proud nation, peter. we had a former prime _ thought. very proud nation, peter. we had a former prime minister. thought. very proud nation, peter. we had a former prime minister on the programme earlier in the week. it didn't seem to me like they want to give many concessions to turkey. is that why this dragged on so long? is that why this dragged on so long? i think no one was asking sweden for actions that they couldn't deliver

because they were in the power of the swedish courts. he wanted a number of what he calls terrorists handed over. sweden is a country that respects to work for their processes —— i think erdogan wa5 processes —— i think erdogan was asking sweden. what killed it was the decision on the fighters to turkey as usual. there is a price to be paid somewhere. i think the price was f—16s. however, the outcome is very good. sweden is a powerful, experienced military country. nato is not only stronger and more united, but now larger than when food and embarked on his work. that is a massive strategic step —— when putin. is a massive strategic step -- when putin. ., , ., , , is a massive strategic step -- when putin. ., , .,, , . is a massive strategic step -- when putin. .,, .,_ . ,., is a massive strategic step -- when putin. ., , ., , , . , ., ., ~ putin. considerably. we should talk, dou: , putin. considerably. we should talk, doug. about — putin. considerably. we should talk, doug. about the _ putin. considerably. we should talk, doug, about the decision _ putin. considerably. we should talk, doug, about the decision that's - putin. considerably. we should talk, j doug, about the decision that's been taken in the last hour by the actors guild in hollywood who werejoining the writers on the barricade. how serious is that for los angeles? is

very serious both in what will be entertainment and how that will or won't _ entertainment and how that will or won't be _ entertainment and how that will or won't be produced. i was a friend last night— won't be produced. i was a friend last night it — won't be produced. i was a friend last night it was a member, and he expects _ last night it was a member, and he expects this — last night it was a member, and he expects this to last a very long time — expects this to last a very long time the _ expects this to last a very long time. the writer 's strike has already— time. the writer 's strike has already gone a long time. a lot of the shows— already gone a long time. a lot of the shows have been out of production because you can produce a show you _ production because you can produce a show you can — production because you can produce a show you can write. it also mean hollywood — show you can write. it also mean hollywood is going to go through a further— hollywood is going to go through a further transformation. it means we will see _ further transformation. it means we will see a _ further transformation. it means we will see a lot more unscripted shows — will see a lot more unscripted shows if— will see a lot more unscripted shows. if you look at reality tv, it's really — shows. if you look at reality tv, it's really had its huge leaps forward _ it's really had its huge leaps forward in hollywood, when there's been a _ forward in hollywood, when there's been a strike. we certainly expect that will— been a strike. we certainly expect that will be the case now. the economic— that will be the case now. the economic impacts will be massive. just 50 _ economic impacts will be massive. just 50 seconds left, but we talked about al. that is at the root of this. it's replacing scriptwriters, it's involved streaming so in heavily. it's taking money away from them. ~ , ,., , heavily. it's taking money away from them. ~ , , ., ,., heavily. it's taking money away from

them. , ., ., ,, ., them. absolutely, and if you talk to musicians. — them. absolutely, and if you talk to musicians, streaming _ them. absolutely, and if you talk to musicians, streaming services - them. absolutely, and if you talk to musicians, streaming services are l musicians, streaming services are killing _ musicians, streaming services are killing them because they get basically no royalties. it's a real issue _ basically no royalties. it's a real issue for writers and asked after this point— issue for writers and asked after this point this whale —— as well. if you this point this whale —— as well. you like your this point this whale —— as well. if you like your box sex, you might want to get out the board games this winter —— box sets. lord ricketts, doug hi, thank you. iwill look forward to monday. see you there. hello, i'm marc edwards with your sport. 0nly hello, i'm marc edwards with your sport. only one place to start, not that wimbledon. after a win against elina svitolina. it's been a wonderful comeback after

two surgeries for wrist problems. she is into her second final after the french open in 2019. however, it is the end of a dream run force svitolina. ., is the end of a dream run force svitolina— svitolina. for sure, massive support- — svitolina. for sure, massive support- i— svitolina. for sure, massive support- i got _ svitolina. for sure, massive support- i got a _ svitolina. for sure, massive support. i got a lot - svitolina. for sure, massive support. i got a lot of- svitolina. for sure, massive - support. i got a lot of messages from different people, and it's unbelievable that they've been there with me all the way. hopefully they continue. i with me all the way. hopefully they continue. �* , ., , continue. i didn't play for six months last _ continue. i didn't play for six months last year, _ continue. i didn't play for six months last year, and - continue. i didn't play for six months last year, and you i continue. i didn't play for six - months last year, and you never know if you _ months last year, and you never know if you can _ months last year, and you never know if you can be _ months last year, and you never know if you can be at that level again. i'm if you can be at that level again. i'm just — if you can be at that level again. i'm just so — if you can be at that level again. i'm just so grateful to be here and to be _ i'm just so grateful to be here and to be healthy, to play tennis again. yeah, _ to be healthy, to play tennis again. yeah, it's— to be healthy, to play tennis again. yeah, it's a — to be healthy, to play tennis again. yeah, it's a change, but i'm very gratefut — yeah, it's a change, but i'm very crateful. ., ., .,

grateful. having a venture defeat in last ear's grateful. having a venture defeat in last year's final, _ grateful. having a venture defeat in last year's final, ons _ grateful. having a venture defeat in last year's final, ons jabeur - last year's final, 0ns jabeur marched towards a major grand slam title. she pulled her place in the final. she was a set and a—2 down but rode a wave of momentum and support from the crowd to reach the final at the championships. her 6—3 victory will see the tunisian bid to become the first arab player and first african woman to win a grand land title. she takes on marketa vondrosova on saturday, her last final event. vondrosova on saturday, her last final event-— final event. she is a great, great -la er, final event. she is a great, great player. and _ final event. she is a great, great player. and i'm _ final event. she is a great, great player, and i'm already - final event. she is a great, great player, and i'm already lost - final event. she is a great, great| player, and i'm already lost twice to her_ player, and i'm already lost twice to her this — player, and i'm already lost twice to her this year, _ player, and i'm already lost twice to her this year, so... _ player, and i'm already lost twice to her this year, so... going - player, and i'm already lost twice to her this year, so... going for. player, and i'm already lost twice i to her this year, so... going for my revenge _ to her this year, so... going for my revenge again. _ to her this year, so... going for my revenge again. i_ to her this year, so... going for my revenge again, i guess, _ to her this year, so... going for my revenge again, i guess, and - to her this year, so... going for my revenge again, i guess, and it's- revenge again, i guess, and it's working! — some viewers may find some details distressing. the everton midfielder

dele alli said he was abused as a child. he said he was molested at the age of six and recently spent some time in rehab because of a sleeping pill addiction as well as mental health issues. he admitted he considered walking away from football completely at the end of his time at tottenham. i remember lookin: in his time at tottenham. i remember looking in the _ his time at tottenham. i remember looking in the mirror. _ his time at tottenham. i remember looking in the mirror. it _ his time at tottenham. i remember looking in the mirror. it sounds - looking in the mirror. it sounds dramatic, but i was staring in the mirror and asking if i could retire now. at 2a, doing the thing i love. for me, that was heartbreaking. rory mcilroy said he would rather retire than play liv golf. mcelroy was speaking after shooting around of a 6a at the scottish 0pen. he's looking for good form. starts on

thursday, and the last time it was held john is a gary was the star man on stage 12 on the tour to france. it's been a nearly seven years since the 3a—year—old last won on the tour. the writer covered the last a0 k on his own —— rider. jonas vanguard retains the when ahead of eight overall. great britain have won gold, silver and bronze in the 100 metres in paris on thursday. hannah, croft let off the british 123. it's

call croft's sixth overall as she powered to a comfortable victory in 16 points. powered to a comfortable victory in 16 oints. ., , powered to a comfortable victory in 16 oints. .,, , . , , ., 16 points. people expect myself to one too, 16 points. people expect myself to one too. but _ 16 points. people expect myself to one too, but to _ 16 points. people expect myself to one too, but to see _ 16 points. people expect myself to one too, but to see fab, _ 16 points. people expect myself to one too, but to see fab, to - 16 points. people expect myself to one too, but to see fab, to see - 16 points. people expect myself to| one too, but to see fab, to see her cross— one too, but to see fab, to see her cross outline — one too, but to see fab, to see her cross outline and third, that's what it's all about. the excitement on her face — it's all about. the excitement on her face is — it's all about. the excitement on her face isjust amazing. we did it's all about. the excitement on herface isjust amazing. we did in birmingham last year. to come here to a bigger— birmingham last year. to come here to a bigger stage, we have more -irls to a bigger stage, we have more girls to _ to a bigger stage, we have more girls to race against. it's not a given for— girls to race against. it's not a given for any girls to race against. it's not a given forany of girls to race against. it's not a given for any of us. we never know what _ given for any of us. we never know what those — given for any of us. we never know what those girls are going to pull out and _ what those girls are going to pull out and we need to watch your back now _ out and we need to watch your back now. ., ., , ., now. from me, and the rest of the team here — now. from me, and the rest of the team here at _ now. from me, and the rest of the team here at the _ now. from me, and the rest of the team here at the bbc _ now. from me, and the rest of the team here at the bbc sport - now. from me, and the rest of the| team here at the bbc sport centre, bye—bye. hello there. it's been a familiar story again today — cool, some sunshine

and some showers. the next few days, though, could be turning wet and windy. this area of cloud is a developing area of low pressure that will bring the wind and the rain up from the southwest. and ahead of that, whilst the showers that we had today will fade away, we've got a bit of thicker cloud bringing some patchy rain northwards across wales, northwest england, northern ireland and southern scotland. and they're probably going to be a lot of cloud around overnight, so a little bit warmer than last night away for northern scotland where we've got single figure temperatures. but let's focus on the southwest. this is where we've probably got the worst of the weather, i think, for friday. as well as the rain, we've got these strong, gusty winds, gusting 50 mph perhaps, and some rough seas. and that rain's going to be with us for much of the day. before it does clear away later, it could turn heavy and thundery. that rain will push further north and eastwards across more of england and wales, up into northern ireland, maybe eventually into the south of scotland. something a bit drier for the north of the country. could be muggy for a while in the southeast, but if anything, those temperatures are likely to be even lower than they were today in the wind and the rain. and it's all due to that area of low pressure deepening as it

heads across the uk. it's going to be sitting around into saturday, lots of isobars on the chart, an indication it's going to be unusually windy, really, for this time of the year. and the rain when it comes could be heavy and thundery. of course, it's going to stay on the cool side as well. focus on the winds, though, for saturday, and the strongest winds will be across england and wales. it's in this area that we're more likely to have some impacts because of the strength of the wind, and the strongest winds could be along some southern coasts and over the hills, but particularly gusty when those showers arrive and it doesn't take long for them to set off. we've got a lot of downpours developing widely across england and wales where it's windy. not quite so windy for scotland and northern ireland, but again, some heavy and thundery rain is possible — all depressing the temperatures, of course. that area of low pressure still with us, then, on saturday will continue to just drift northwards, could take the worst of the weather away with it as well. but, if anything, it may be a windier day for scotland to northern ireland, perhaps the north of england, not quite so windy

on sunday further south. and there may well be some sunshine around, but still some heavy, thundery showers, wetter weather in the north and the top temperatures 20 or 21 celsius.

tonight at ten...around a million public sector workers in england and wales are offered pay rises and wales are offered pay rises of between 5% and 7%. of between 5% and 7%. what do we want? what do we want? fair pay! when do we want it? fair pay! when do we want it? now! now! they include junior they include junior doctors, who today started doctors, who today started another five—day strike. another five—day strike. rishi sunak called for industrial action to end. today's offer is final. there will be no more talks on pay. we will not negotiate again on this year's settlements and no amount of strikes will change our decision.