welcome back to the programme. are the west in ukraine to repel russia, or to help ukraine win this war? what is the end game? and how quickly can it be delivered? the ukraine contact group recommited to the fight today, but there are concerns over the slow progress of the counteroffensive. we will discuss that with our panel tonight. ron christie, former special assistant to former president george w bush, and from italy natalie tocci, the director of the institue of international affairs, in rome. i am sure they will both have a view on al and the threats it presents to our mutual defence. the un security council discussed it for the the first time today. and donald trump already indicted, but now expecting to face further federal charges over his involvement in the jan 6 riot. what does that mean to his chances of returning to the white house? all that to come.

the us defence secretary, lloyd austin, has today hosted a 14th meeting of the ukraine contact group, the alliance of 50 nations that together are supplying weapons to ukraine. on that call the ukrainian defence minister stressed the urgent need to supply more ammunition. and secretary austin says he has asked the allies to dig deep into their inventories. it is no secret that some countries are struggling to meet what they have already pledged. that certainly is one reason the counteroffensive is not going as quickly as some might have hoped. though the chair of the joint chiefs, general mark milley, was keen to limit expectations. as ukraine continues its counteroffensive we are reminded that real war is not war on paper. real war is unpredictable, it's

filled with fear, fog and friction. real war is brutal. the crucible of combat is enormous costs in terms of killed, wounded and displaced persons and refugees. and yet, despite the enormous costs, the ukrainians are advancing steadily and deliberately. braving brutal and bloody battles to reclaim their homeland. as we publicly said weeks ago, this offensive will be slow, it will be difficult and it will come at a high cost. one of ukraine's most senior military commanders, in charge of operations in the east, says it is "practically impossible" to dislodge the well—prepared russian defences, with the limits they have on supplies. general oleksandr syrskyi has been speaking to our defence corresponednt jonathan beale. the offensive has been going on that more than a month now. even president zelensky has said it is slower then ukraine had hoped for. is that true?— slower then ukraine had hoped for. is that true? ~ ,, ~ ., is that true? translation: we would like to net is that true? translation: we would like to get very _ is that true? translation: we would like to get very fast _ is that true? translation: we would like to get very fast results _ is that true? translation: we would like to get very fast results but - is that true? translation: we would like to get very fast results but in - like to get very fast results but in reality it's practically impossible.

this entire area is well prepared with defenses. so all advances are not going as fast as we would like. so all advances are not going as fast as we would like. a little earlier on the programme we spoke to olyksandr kamychin, the miniser of strategic industries — a man widely respected. he was formerly in charge of keeping the railway open, and throughout the war 85% of trains have continued to run. but he admits there are strains on supplies, which will limit progress at the front. well i'm grateful and i don't understand they dig deep enough to get more and more for us. despite the fact am responsible for a lot of production i'm gratefulfrom what we receive from our partners. there production i'm grateful from what we receive from our partners.— receive from our partners. there are 160,000 russian _ receive from our partners. there are 160,000 russian soldiers _ receive from our partners. there are 160,000 russian soldiers that - receive from our partners. there are 160,000 russian soldiers that are l receive from our partners. there are | 160,000 russian soldiers that are on the front line. there are still huge numbers of russians they are. have you been able to secure the right type of weapons that would tilt the

balance in your favour? type of weapons that would tilt the balance in yourfavour? we type of weapons that would tilt the balance in your favour?— balance in your favour? we got a lot but it's never— balance in your favour? we got a lot but it's never enough. _ balance in your favour? we got a lot but it's never enough. we _ balance in your favour? we got a lot but it's never enough. we grow - balance in your favour? we got a lot| but it's never enough. we grow local production significantly but we're still way too far from where we need to be. that's why we still rely much on their supply we get from our partner countries. i am again gratefulfor partner countries. i am again grateful for that.— partner countries. i am again cratefulfor that. ., ., . ., grateful for that. you are in charge of procurement _ grateful for that. you are in charge of procurement and _ grateful for that. you are in charge of procurement and development i grateful for that. you are in charge l of procurement and development of weapons in ukraine now. then wallace the uk defence secretary said the other day that tragically ukraine have become a battle lab for world two more technology. can you talk to us about that? —— more technology. what sort of industries you are encouraging? for what sort of industries you are encouraging?— what sort of industries you are encourauain? ., , ., ,, encouraging? for sure. those happen at the to- encouraging? for sure. those happen at the top production _ encouraging? for sure. those happen at the top production in _ encouraging? for sure. those happen at the top production in ukraine - at the top production in ukraine will get the benefit of producing in ukraine for that during r&d in ukraine for that during r&d in

ukraine and getting feedback and finally getting their products tested with the best quality seal you can get in the world because without the largest war of the generation. and probably those products that would be produced locally and by then the war would be here, the best in class. a good incentive for defence industries to come and start production in ukraine. ., , ., ., , , , ukraine. ron christie, what happens if this counteroffensive _ ukraine. ron christie, what happens if this counteroffensive is _ ukraine. ron christie, what happens if this counteroffensive is judged - if this counteroffensive is judged on it to the winter we were quite literally into a frozen conflict? do you think the west is ready for the? good evening, christian for them i was a pleasure to see you, my friend. i think we're in bit of a quagmire spot. how do we define success? is success repealing the russian federation forces from ukraine? is success having some sort of line drawn where they can then

negotiate for a political settlement? orderwe negotiate for a political settlement? order we find ourselves in the position that we're in for all out victory? i think the question that many of our leaders in the west have not been asking is how do we define success? as we head into the winter i think the first question we need to ascertain an answer is what are we doing and how do we do it? he answer is what are we doing and how do we do it?— do we do it? he has been trying to re are do we do it? he has been trying to prepare people — do we do it? he has been trying to prepare people for— do we do it? he has been trying to prepare people for that. _ do we do it? he has been trying to prepare people for that. you'll - prepare people for that. you'll rememberjust last year he was widely criticised for warning that the war might not be winnable. have we got ahead of ourselves? i the war might not be winnable. have we got ahead of ourselves?- we got ahead of ourselves? i think we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have- let _ we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. let me _ we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. let me put _ we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. let me put it _ we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. let me put it to - we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. let me put it to you - we got ahead of ourselves? i think we have. let me put it to you this| we have. let me put it to you this way, when we look at the united states from a geostrategic perspective and we look at china and we look at taiwan and we say yes, this one china policy but we will not tolerate any incursion into

taiwan by china. or any incursion more than we've already seen in the south china sea. i think the chinese understand where we're coming from. i think we need to send a clear signal to vladimir putin and his allies, particularly in belarus and other countries near ukraine that this is who we're and this is the line we have drawn for that we just haven't done that thus far in my opinion. haven't done that thus far in my oinion. ., ., �* haven't done that thus far in my oinion. . . �* ., ~ ., opinion. natalie, we've talked and man of opinion. natalie, we've talked and many of the _ opinion. natalie, we've talked and many of the media _ opinion. natalie, we've talked and many of the media is _ opinion. natalie, we've talked and many of the media is to _ opinion. natalie, we've talked and many of the media is to blame - opinion. natalie, we've talked and many of the media is to blame for| opinion. natalie, we've talked and l many of the media is to blame for a tipping point, may be we're several weeks or months into this counteroffensive, the russians will take flight and the war will be over. we have to face facts here, there are hundred 60,000 russians on there are hundred 60,000 russians on the front lane, which is not a dissimilar number to the number that with there last february when the invasion began. yes with there last february when the invasion began.— with there last february when the invasion began. yes put up actually often we tend _ invasion began. yes put up actually often we tend to _ invasion began. yes put up actually often we tend to misunderstand - invasion began. yes put up actually l often we tend to misunderstand what the ukrainians themselves are

saying — the ukrainians themselves are saying. what we've been hearing, especially— saying. what we've been hearing, especially over the last couple of weeks _ especially over the last couple of weeks is — especially over the last couple of weeks is the counteroffensive is not going _ weeks is the counteroffensive is not going as _ weeks is the counteroffensive is not going as fast as we would like. desire — going as fast as we would like. desire and expectations are two different— desire and expectations are two different things. this doesn't necessarily mean that the counteroffensive is going slower than what the ukrainians or the united — than what the ukrainians or the united states or european allies expected. we would like it to be much _ expected. we would like it to be much faster but that's a completely different— much faster but that's a completely different question. i kind of looked back at— different question. i kind of looked back at where we were at last year and essentially last year the counteroffensive back then head started — counteroffensive back then head started back injuly. and liberated in the _ started back injuly. and liberated in the first— started back injuly. and liberated in the first half to december, was liberated — in the first half to december, was liberated in november. in a sense we always— liberated in november. in a sense we always do— liberated in november. in a sense we always do this counteroffensive was going _ always do this counteroffensive was going to _ always do this counteroffensive was going to be much harder. we knew that the _ going to be much harder. we knew that the russians had all the time they needed to dig into their

defenses. we know that especially for thinking about the salt that the first 25_ for thinking about the salt that the first 25 km — for thinking about the salt that the first 25 km of that 90 km stretch is heavily— first 25 km of that 90 km stretch is heavily mined. there ukrainians rightly— heavily mined. there ukrainians rightly want to limit their losses. in the _ rightly want to limit their losses. in the sense speed was ever to be a realistic— in the sense speed was ever to be a realistic proposition to this counteroffensive. to realistic proposition to this counteroffensive.- realistic proposition to this counteroffensive. ., , ., counteroffensive. to me the question is... counteroffensive. to me the question is- -- because — counteroffensive. to me the question is... because of _ counteroffensive. to me the question is... because of course _ counteroffensive. to me the question is... because of course ben _ counteroffensive. to me the question is... because of course ben wallace l is... because of course ben wallace the uk defence secretary warning ukrainians to look at the political debate on the right in the united states and bear in mind what is happening. surely european see that timescale as well. i happening. surely european see that timescale as well.— timescale as well. i think the timescale — timescale as well. i think the timescale that _ timescale as well. i think the timescale that we _ timescale as well. i think the timescale that we really - timescale as well. i think the | timescale that we really have timescale as well. i think the l timescale that we really have a timescale as well. i think the - timescale that we really have a mind is basically, — timescale that we really have a mind is basically, where are we going to be by— is basically, where are we going to be by the — is basically, where are we going to be by the end of this year, beginning of next year? after we've gone through one or two counteroffensive, because probably there's _ counteroffensive, because probably there's going to be another one in there's going to be another one in the fall, _ there's going to be another one in the fall, at— there's going to be another one in the fall, at what point is that this goes back— the fall, at what point is that this goes back to the question of how to we define _ goes back to the question of how to we define success, how much

territory — we define success, how much territory would have been liberated by then? _ territory would have been liberated by then? i— territory would have been liberated by then? i think that will be... once _ by then? i think that will be... once wete— by then? i think that will be... once we're into the beginning that she had _ once we're into the beginning that she had them we're it back to the drawing _ she had them we're it back to the drawing board because ukraine will have received what we can provide and it _ have received what we can provide and it will— have received what we can provide and it will have done, given that i shot at— and it will have done, given that i shot at how— and it will have done, given that i shot at how much you can liberate and then— shot at how much you can liberate and then the question of defining success— and then the question of defining success really for the incense i have _ success really for the incense i have some degree of sympathy as to why that _ have some degree of sympathy as to why that definition hasn't been provided — why that definition hasn't been provided now for them if we were to provide _ provided now for them if we were to provide it— provided now for them if we were to provide it now either we basically say well, — provide it now either we basically say well, this is the line in which we define — say well, this is the line in which we define success. of course the bottle _ we define success. of course the bottle is — we define success. of course the bottle is problematic in all sorts of ways — bottle is problematic in all sorts of ways. or we go full— blown bottle is problematic in all sorts of ways. or we go full—blown into saying _ of ways. or we go full—blown into saying success is the liberation of all territory. that may end up being unrealistic — all territory. that may end up being unrealistic. that moment of definition really does trump and connect — definition really does trump and connect to the united states is going — connect to the united states is going to — connect to the united states is going to be in terms of presidential campaign — going to be in terms of presidential campaign. it will take place at some

place _ campaign. it will take place at some place towards the end of this year, beginning — place towards the end of this year, beginning of next year. why place towards the end of this year, beginning of next year.— place towards the end of this year, beginning of next year. why is that important? — beginning of next year. why is that important? because _ beginning of next year. why is that important? because this _ beginning of next year. why is that important? because this is - beginning of next year. why is that important? because this is what i important? because this is what donald trump is saying about the conflict and how he would resolve it. you said you could end the war in ukraine and 2a hours how would you do that? i in ukraine and 24 hours how would you do that?— you do that? i know zelensky very well. i you do that? i know zelensky very well- i felt — you do that? i know zelensky very well. i felt he _ you do that? i know zelensky very well. i felt he was _ you do that? i know zelensky very well. i felt he was very _ you do that? i know zelensky very| well. i felt he was very honourable because when _ well. i felt he was very honourable because when i— well. i felt he was very honourable because when i asked _ well. i felt he was very honourable because when i asked him - well. i felt he was very honourable because when i asked him about. well. i felt he was very honourable i because when i asked him about the perfect _ because when i asked him about the perfect phone — because when i asked him about the perfect phone call— because when i asked him about the perfect phone call that _ because when i asked him about the perfect phone call that i _ because when i asked him about the perfect phone call that i made - because when i asked him about the perfect phone call that i made he i perfect phone call that i made he said it _ perfect phone call that i made he said it was — perfect phone call that i made he said it was indeed _ perfect phone call that i made he said it was indeed perfect. - perfect phone call that i made he said it was indeed perfect. he - said it was indeed perfect. he didn't— said it was indeed perfect. he didn't even— said it was indeed perfect. he didn't even know— said it was indeed perfect. he didn't even know what - said it was indeed perfect. he didn't even know what they. said it was indeed perfect. he i didn't even know what they were talking _ didn't even know what they were talking about _ didn't even know what they were talking about. he _ didn't even know what they were talking about. he could've - didn't even know what they were talking about. he could've grant| talking about. he could've grant stated. — talking about. he could've grant stated. all— talking about. he could've grant stated. all i_ talking about. he could've grant stated, all i felt _ talking about. he could've grant stated, all i felt rotten. - talking about. he could've grant stated, all i felt rotten.— stated, all i felt rotten. that's market to _ stated, all i felt rotten. that's market to be _ stated, all i felt rotten. that's market to be enough - stated, all i felt rotten. that's market to be enough for - stated, all i felt rotten. that's market to be enough for putin stated, all i felt rotten. that's i market to be enough for putin to stop bombing. i’m market to be enough for putin to stop bombing-— market to be enough for putin to stop bombing. market to be enough for putin to sto bombinu. �* ., ., stop bombing. i'm not saying that. i know zelensky _ stop bombing. i'm not saying that. i know zelensky very _ stop bombing. i'm not saying that. i know zelensky very well _ stop bombing. i'm not saying that. i know zelensky very well and - stop bombing. i'm not saying that. i know zelensky very well and i - stop bombing. i'm not saying that. i know zelensky very well and i know | know zelensky very well and i know putin _ know zelensky very well and i know putin very _ know zelensky very well and i know putin very even _ know zelensky very well and i know putin very even better. _ know zelensky very well and i know putin very even better. and - know zelensky very well and i know putin very even better. and i- know zelensky very well and i know putin very even better. and i had i know zelensky very well and i know putin very even better. and i had a| putin very even better. and i had a good _ putin very even better. and i had a good relationship, very— putin very even better. and i had a good relationship, very good - good relationship, very good with both of— good relationship, very good with both of them _ good relationship, very good with both of them. i _ good relationship, very good with both of them. i would _ good relationship, very good with both of them. i would tell- good relationship, very good with i both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more. _ both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more. you — both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more. you got— both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more, you got make _ both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more, you got make a _ both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more, you got make a deal. - both of them. i would tell zelensky, no more, you got make a deal. i- no more, you got make a deal. i would _ no more, you got make a deal. i would tell— no more, you got make a deal. i would tell putin _ no more, you got make a deal. i would tell putin if _ no more, you got make a deal. i would tell putin if you _ no more, you got make a deal. i would tell putin if you don't - no more, you got make a deal. i. would tell putin if you don't make a deal working — would tell putin if you don't make a deal working to _ would tell putin if you don't make a deal working to give _ would tell putin if you don't make a deal working to give them - would tell putin if you don't make a deal working to give them a - deal working to give them a lot, -ive deal working to give them a lot, give a more _ deal working to give them a lot, give a more than _ deal working to give them a lot, give a more than they— deal working to give them a lot, give a more than they ever - deal working to give them a lot, i give a more than they ever thought if we _ give a more than they ever thought if we have — give a more than they ever thought if we have to — give a more than they ever thought if we have to i_ give a more than they ever thought if we have to. i will— give a more than they ever thought if we have to. i will have _ give a more than they ever thought if we have to. i will have the - give a more than they ever thought if we have to. i will have the deal l if we have to. i will have the deal done _ if we have to. i will have the deal done in one — if we have to. i will have the deal done in one day. _ if we have to. i will have the deal done in one day.— if we have to. i will have the deal done in one day. one day. one day, ron. done in one day. one day. one day, ron- donald — done in one day. one day. one day, ron. donald trump _ done in one day. one day. one day, ron. donald trump thinks _ done in one day. one day. one day, ron. donald trump thinks he - done in one day. one day. one day, ron. donald trump thinks he has i done in one day. one day. one day, l ron. donald trump thinks he has the answers. people on fox news are

listening. answers. people on fox news are listeninu. ., ., answers. people on fox news are listeninu. . ., ., listening. look, what a naive comment- — listening. look, what a naive comment. for— listening. look, what a naive comment. for having - listening. look, what a naive| comment. for having worked listening. look, what a naive i comment. for having worked for president of united states, having worked for a president who was in war on two different theatres for the four years as in the white house would say this to you, not you, christian but to our audience that vladimir putin had his reasons to get into crimea. he had his reasons to send the russian federation forces into a sovereign nation in the manner he did. i don't care whether you have a relation with putin, whether you have a relationship with zelensky, there's a lot more going on. there's a lot more ethnic conflict going on in the situation that a phone call in 24 hours can't get it done. so the notion that the former president hoping to be the future president of the united states thinks he can do this in a phone call and/or a 24

hour negotiated solomon i think is ludicrous on its face.— ludicrous on its face. yes. nonetheless _ ludicrous on its face. yes. nonetheless the - ludicrous on its face. yes. nonetheless the funding i ludicrous on its face. yes. i nonetheless the funding from ludicrous on its face. yes. - nonetheless the funding from the united states might dry up for that just the last few minutes this is a drop of the eu is going to propose a dedicated fund to keep ukraine's military stock for the next or years for the cost of up to 20 billion euros. they are preparing for the possibility that donald trump will take the funding away. xfies. possibility that donald trump will take the funding away.— possibility that donald trump will take the funding away. yes. at the end of the day _ take the funding away. yes. at the end of the day ukraine _ take the funding away. yes. at the end of the day ukraine is - take the funding away. yes. at the end of the day ukraine is in - take the funding away. yes. at the | end of the day ukraine is in europe. so what _ end of the day ukraine is in europe. so what ever— end of the day ukraine is in europe. so what ever happens europeans will alwaysm _ so what ever happens europeans will always... we simply don't have the luxury— always... we simply don't have the luxury of— always... we simply don't have the luxury of turning our backs on ukraine _ luxury of turning our backs on ukraine. because ukraine security is european _ ukraine. because ukraine security is european security. even if a hypothetical world the united states could at _ hypothetical world the united states could at some point decide that european — could at some point decide that european security doesn't concern it. i european security doesn't concern it i don't — european security doesn't concern it. i don't think this is a likely proposition even if trump were to return to — proposition even if trump were to return to the white house. for the

sake _ return to the white house. for the sake of— return to the white house. for the sake ofargument, return to the white house. for the sake of argument, even if the united states— sake of argument, even if the united states were to go in that direction european — states were to go in that direction european simply don't. it's not a coincidence _ european simply don't. it's not a coincidence that at the moment not only is— coincidence that at the moment not only is that — coincidence that at the moment not only is that financial commitments being _ only is that financial commitments being made for the next four years but the _ being made for the next four years but the european union has reopened the file _ but the european union has reopened the file which was essentially dead to all— the file which was essentially dead to all accents and purposes up until russians— to all accents and purposes up until russians invasion of ukraine, which obviously— russians invasion of ukraine, which obviously applies ukraine to potentially georgia and also to the rest for— potentially georgia and also to the rest for that what he also see is that it _ rest for that what he also see is that it europeans, notjust a sure variance — that it europeans, notjust a sure variance and north europeans but also increasing the west europeans. think— also increasing the west europeans. think about — also increasing the west europeans. think about the 180 degrees turn that france has undertaken over the last few— that france has undertaken over the last few months in which it had west europeans— last few months in which it had west europeans that increasingly also start _ europeans that increasingly also start looking with some favour at the prospects of natives and into ukraine — the prospects of natives and into ukraine. ~ . , the prospects of natives and into ukraine. n, , ., , the prospects of natives and into ukraine. , ., , . ., ukraine. madge president has change his osition ukraine. madge president has change his position on _ ukraine. madge president has change his position on thought. _

around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bbc news bringing you different stories from across the uk. this title has had several twists and turns. it's now been given the go—ahead and if anyone's against it they have six weeks to say so. the idea is a two mile stretch of road being routed beneath the busy 8303. it's almost 30 years since early plans for some form of tunnel were put on the table. fast—forward to 2020 and planning permission was granted for that the following years this was overturned in the high courts. this after a campaign by some locals who are angry at the possible impact on the monument nearby. now the transport secretary in dean has reversed that ruling. those in favour say that tunnel will boost the economy while reducing traffic to all the transport secretary accepts there will be harm

he says the benefits outweigh the concerns. for more stories from across the uk head to the bbc news website. the uk foreign secretary has told the uk that artificial intelligence will challenge all our fundamental. ourfundamental. fundamental assumptions about defence and deterrence. this was the first session the council has held on al. the uk currently holds the rotating presidency and has used it to demand greater collaboration around the rules and development of ai technologies. james cleverly said it will "fundamentally alter every aspect of human life" and the security council will need to respond — quickly. our shared goal will be to consider the risks of aia at decide how they can be reduced through coordinated action. momentous opportunities on a scale that we can barely imagine light before us. we must seize these

opportunities and grasp the challenges of ai, including those for international peace and security, decisively, optimistically and from a position of global unity on essential principles. there are all manors are forthright that you could look at with regard to ai and how it can change our world. there in the united states one of the biggest concerns is that the speed, the scale, the size of this information that could result once these technologies get hold. couldn't agree with that, anymore. you're absolutely right. one of the things i face as an educator for teaching in georgetown university and cornell is how does this change the scope of academia? do students now have this artificial

intelligence and have their reports written for them? there are papers written for them? there are papers written for them and how do we maintain academic integrity? when you look at areas of homeland security, national security i don't think we quite understand the genie that we let out of the bottle. and i'm very pleased that the united kingdom and its presidency, the security council is addressing this head—on. i think this is a very important discussion we need to tackle sooner rather than later. the roblem is tackle sooner rather than later. the problem is and we played a clip of the vice president last night who got in a bit of a world salad about al and what it means and where it's ai and what it means and where it's going. —— word salad. the problem is politicians don't fully understand it. we need an international body that brings together all the expertise if were going to find the right answers. i expertise if were going to find the right answers-— expertise if were going to find the right answers. i think you're right. there clearly _ right answers. i think you're right. there clearly needs _ right answers. i think you're right. there clearly needs to _ right answers. i think you're right. there clearly needs to be - right answers. i think you're right. | there clearly needs to be technical expertise — there clearly needs to be technical expertise without high think... yes,

we need _ expertise without high think... yes, we need to— expertise without high think... yes, we need to have technical expertise at the _ we need to have technical expertise at the state and time, that doesn't necessarily— at the state and time, that doesn't necessarily mean that policy makers and legislators need to be engineers. the point is, what is the sufficient _ engineers. the point is, what is the sufficient level of expertise that could _ sufficient level of expertise that could enable legislators to basically regulate effectively artificial intelligence? to me the conundrum really lies therein and the sense — conundrum really lies therein and the sense that, who are the legislators? were talking about the bil legislators? were talking about the big players air. about the united states. — big players air. about the united states, were talking about the european union, china. and the problem — european union, china. and the problem is _ european union, china. and the problem is that these three players have politically very different objectives in mind when we're thinking — objectives in mind when we're thinking about digital technologies and artificial intelligence. in the united — and artificial intelligence. in the united states at the prime goal seems — united states at the prime goal seems to— united states at the prime goal seems to be the fostering of

creativity, innovation and growth. this has— creativity, innovation and growth. this has traditionally been what's been _ this has traditionally been what's been driving the united states, which _ been driving the united states, which of— been driving the united states, which of course explained by the united _ which of course explained by the united states has been so successful in this— united states has been so successful in this field. for europe this is really about the protection of rights — really about the protection of rights put up for china this is about— rights put up for china this is about control. no surprise that which — about control. no surprise that which are — about control. no surprise that which are the digital technologies that the _ which are the digital technologies that the chinese tend to excel and cover— that the chinese tend to excel and cover those in which telecommunications and surveillance, those _ telecommunications and surveillance, those which _ telecommunications and surveillance, those which are front and centre of the objective of control. when you have these — the objective of control. when you have these three essentially contrasting objectives, how is it you go— contrasting objectives, how is it you go about regulating an issue which _ you go about regulating an issue which is — you go about regulating an issue which is by definition a global in nature? — which is by definition a global in nature? traditionally because of these _ nature? traditionally because of these different goals the united states— these different goals the united states and europe have tendered to diverge _ states and europe have tendered to diverge quite significantly. i think because — diverge quite significantly. i think because there is the china peace in this equation this time, and wait there _ this equation this time, and wait there never really was in the past, there _ there never really was in the past, there is— there never really was in the past, there is far— there never really was in the past, there is far greater scope for transatlantic cooperation has been in the _

transatlantic cooperation has been in the past. which probably means there _ in the past. which probably means there at— in the past. which probably means there at the transatlantic level we could _ there at the transatlantic level we could probably do a lot to work on regulating, creative, the production of artificial — regulating, creative, the production of artificial intelligence but then here comes the discussion at the un security— here comes the discussion at the un security council when it comes to the destructive potential of artificial intelligence for the very clearly _ artificial intelligence for the very clearly there needs to be a broader agreement that includes all actors including — agreement that includes all actors including china.— including china. yes. interesting toda that including china. yes. interesting today that the _ including china. yes. interesting today that the chinese _ including china. yes. interesting today that the chinese want i including china. yes. interesting today that the chinese want a i including china. yes. interesting i today that the chinese want a bigger role for developing countries and not the americans and the europeans to lead. one to discuss no doubt into the future. a little bit of breaking news. the us army has identified that soldier who crossed into north korea as private second—class travis peking. he was on a tour of the demilitarised zone between north and south korea. according to others in the groupie crossed the military line and ran

towards a gods building in the north for that must be the only person is ever defected into korea. an eyewitness in the group has set all of a sudden this man screamed, somewhat historically and away she found unnerving and then made a run for it. normally these are station on the line but apparently they've been pulled back over covid fears, the us i'd say the soldier will be disciplined if they can get him back. that i suggest is a very big if. an australian sailor who survives in the atlantic ocean by eating raw fish and drinking rainwater has arrived in the mexican pacific coast with a 51—year—old tim shattuck, not to be confused with the hieratic was there along with his dog bella. he left mexico for french polynesia but their boat was damaged by a storm several weeks later. they were rescued by a trawler this week after a helicopter spotted them. he paid tribute to his

furry companion. spotted them. he paid tribute to his furry companion-— furry companion. yes, bella sort of found me in _ furry companion. yes, bella sort of found me in the _ furry companion. yes, bella sort of found me in the middle _ furry companion. yes, bella sort of found me in the middle of - furry companion. yes, bella sort of found me in the middle of mexico, | found me in the middle of mexico, she is mexican. she is the spirit of the middle of the country. she wouldn't let me go. i tried to find a home from her maybe three times. shejust kept a home from her maybe three times. she just kept following me onto the water. ifelt like she she just kept following me onto the water. i felt like she a beautiful animal and water. i felt like she a beautiful animaland i'm water. i felt like she a beautiful animal and i'm just grateful she's alive. she's a lot braver than i am, that's for sure. . . , she's a lot braver than i am, that's forsure. . . , , ., ., she's a lot braver than i am, that's forsure. . for sure. had really hesitate to put that sarong — for sure. had really hesitate to put that sarong christie who _ for sure. had really hesitate to put that sarong christie who is - that sarong christie who is already mushy about his dog. if you were adrift with your furry companion you might try innovate rescue, i suggest. might try innovate rescue, i su: est. , ., might try innovate rescue, i su: est. , . ., , suggest. oh, christian, iwould try to head towards _ suggest. oh, christian, iwould try to head towards rescue _ suggest. oh, christian, iwould try to head towards rescue because i l to head towards rescue because i love scout, i love my dog. you know

i'm a sap on this. of course you had to go there with me on this. i like the story. they are lucky to be alive. i'mjust the story. they are lucky to be alive. i'm just glad that they were recovered. yes, just so you know, scout is right outside my door. i told him to stay and not bark. it’s told him to stay and not bark. it's re told him to stay and not bark. it's pretty moving that he was diving off the boat and fishing try to stay alive, collecting rainwater and the dog just wouldn't leave him. he was diving into the water with them. man's best friend. that's what it's about, isn't it?— about, isn't it? exactly for that in incredible story _ about, isn't it? exactly for that in incredible story not _ about, isn't it? exactly for that in incredible story not only - about, isn't it? exactly for that in incredible story not only about i incredible story not only about human — incredible story not only about human resilience but about the incredible relationship between man and god _ incredible relationship between man and god. ~ , ., ., , and god. absolutely. in sofa that my wife... i and god. absolutely. in sofa that my wife--- iget— and god. absolutely. in sofa that my wife... i get into _ and god. absolutely. in sofa that my wife... i get into awful— and god. absolutely. in sofa that my wife... i get into awful trouble i wife... i get into awful trouble with my wife being away for two months. she think i got it on purpose and particulars the dog with me. we will take a short break. when we come back were going to talk about the number of empty posts of the united states as it its

embassies around the world for the boys that happen in? we will get into it. to stay with us. —— why is that happening? hello. there's no end in sight, really, to our unsettled run of weather. there are already parts of scotland so far this july that have seen 60% more rainfall than a typicaljuly so it has been very wet. keswick was hiding underneath the rain clouds during the day today. and the reason it has been unsettled is because of this trough to our west. that creates areas of low pressure that then move across the uk and bring us rain, and there is no change to that pattern expected. meanwhile across southern europe, we've got this ridge and what that does is it pushes air down through the earth's atmosphere. that descending air can dry out and can trap some extreme heat near the earth's surface. 46 likely in parts of sardinia and sicily, but for both, actually, temperatures for most will be more

into the upper 30s. it is still extreme heat, still quite dangerous, but the 46es will be relatively localised affairs. now, overnight tonight for us, outbreaks of rain will slowly be easing across eastern areas as our area of low pressure works out into the north sea. it then turns quite chilly for scotland and northern ireland, with temperatures getting down into single figures here, with some clear spells. and overall, looking at the weather charts for wednesday, as that low pressure pulls out of the way, it's a brighter kind of day, a day really of sunshine and showers. the majority of the showers will be across northern and eastern scotland and across eastern areas of england as well, where there could be one or two sharp ones come the afternoon. still, we are expecting some spells of sunshine, so at least in that regard it should be a better kind of day. that said, temperatures for most will continue to be a little bit below average, typically between 17 and 20, although 24 in london is close to average, it won't feel too bad in thejuly sunshine. for thursday another showery kind

of day but that said, there won't be that many showers around. most of them will be in northern scotland, so if you do catch a shower elsewhere you can count yourself quite unlucky. sunny spells, temperatures still a little below average forjuly, and highs for most of us between around 17 and 23 celsius. what about the end of the week and the weekend? well, rememberthat trough in the jet stream? well, that's not going anywhere very far, very fast. and that will create further areas of low pressure, and that means we've got more rain to come. for friday, the wet weather will be across parts of scotland and northern ireland, drier and brighterfor most of england and wales, but for most through the weekend, we will see rain at times.

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