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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. as donald trump prepares for an indictment for the 6january riot, we speak to miles taylor — a former anonymous critic from inside from trump's white house on the prospect of a second. sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's betty glover. hello from the bbc sport centre. we'll start with cricket — where australia are 299 for eight at the end of day one of the fourth ashes test. england won the toss and put australia into bat in manchester and, though a number of batsmen got starts, none yet have produced a big innings.
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chris woakes got four wickets and there were two for stuart broad who reached the milestone of six hundred test wickets. with milestones, they don't really mean anything until you stop playing. you want to achieve milestones in chess match wins. they always mean a lot more when you manage to take wickets in chess match wins for them as a team we had a pretty decent day on a pretty decent cricket pitch as well. i'll let the ball in front of me that i got the 600 with. hit the middle of the bat a bit much for me today. it's been an interesting day as cricket. nice to have contributed to the team as well. our rocesses contributed to the team as well. our processes take it day by day and tried to — processes take it day by day and tried to win that day for us today was obviously getting sent in again. it was _ was obviously getting sent in again. it wasjust— was obviously getting sent in again. it wasjust about was obviously getting sent in again. it was just about putting up the back of— it was just about putting up the back of our best foot forward for the up _ back of our best foot forward for the up and — back of our best foot forward for the up and putting a score on the board _ the up and putting a score on the board that would put pressure on england~ — board that would put pressure on england. obviously the ones that
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will be _ england. obviously the ones that will be chasing the games. while, pakistan need 83 runs to win the first test against sri lanka when play resumes on the final day. they are 48 for three after losing wickets late on day four, giving the hosts some hope of an unlikely victory after they could only set a target of 131. football transfer news is coming thick and fast — liverpool have agreed a 12 million pound deal in principle to sell long—standing captainjordan henderson to saudia arabian side al—ettifaq. he was left out of their preseason friendly in germany this evening and is believed to be discusing personal terms with the club managed by anotherformer liverpool captain, steven gerrard. and manchester city's riyadh mahrez is also heading to the saudi pro league.
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al—ahli have agreed to pay £30 million for the algerian winger. and former manchester city defender benjamin mendy has signed for ligue one side lorient five days after being cleared of rape. mendy — whose city contract expired in the summer. has signed a two—year deal with the french club. he was cleared of raping a woman and attempting to rape another at chester crown court on friday. the former france international last played competitive football in august 2021. women's world cup starts and new zealand _ women's world cup starts and new zealand and auckland. the women's world cup starts and new zealand and auckland.— zealand and auckland. the football fans hoinu zealand and auckland. the football fans heping for— zealand and auckland. the football fans hoping for a _ zealand and auckland. the football fans hoping for a change _ zealand and auckland. the football fans hoping for a change in - zealand and auckland. the football fans hoping for a change in fortune | fans hoping for a change in fortune as they aim to win a first ever group stage game at the tournament in 15 attempts. their opponents in norway when the competition back in 1995 and are coached who is part of the squad. new zealand's says the team are well aware of the task at hand. ., ., . , , team are well aware of the task at hand. ., ._ ., , , , ., hand. norway are very, very strong team we know _ hand. norway are very, very strong team we know what _ hand. norway are very, very strong team we know what they're - hand. norway are very, very strong| team we know what they're capable of. theirforward line and team we know what they're capable of. their forward line and what they can bring for the frost we've just got to focus on us as well but we
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know they've got many threats up front. they are attacking line are really good individual players for as it's just to focus on ourjob and what we want to do to obviously stop them from creating and being dangerous. austrian climber felix gall won stage 17 of the tour de france but the biggest winner was the defending championjonas vingegaard. the dane rode away from a struggling tadey poga—char on the highest mountain of this year's race and now leads by over seven and a half minutes with four stages to go. second—placed pogacar conceded defeat mid—stage saying on his team radio "i'm gone, i'm dead" and encouraged his team—mate adam yates to ride for a podium place. and that's all the sport for now. there are indications of former president will be charged overturned the 2020
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election. his lawyers are trying to figure out if there is evidence or witnesses they are unaware of, that are bolstering special counsel jack smith s investigation. the potential charges, which are set out in a letter that has been sent to the former president, suggest the special counsel will prosecute a much bigger case than trumps team was expecting. which could mean more days in court, during next years election campaign. for now it is not doing his chances much harm. trump is 30 points ahead of ron de santis his nearest republican challenger. but what would a second trump term look like? our next guest served in the first administration. two years into that term he blew the whistle from inside the trump white house. back then he was known as anonymous. but we know him as miles taylor, panelist and author of a new book. its called blowback. a warning to save democracy from the next trump. miles tayla, welcome to the program. —— miles taylor. i spent my
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convalescence recovering from back surgery over six weeks reading it. i want to focus on the thing that i think has the biggest implication for all of us and that was that the route that was escalating within the white house in 2017. in relation to his stand up but kimjong—il alone. how concerned were people in the white house?— how concerned were people in the white house? incredibly concerned let me be the _ white house? incredibly concerned let me be the thousands _ white house? incredibly concerned let me be the thousands person . white house? incredibly concerned let me be the thousands person to| let me be the thousands person to tell you where glad you're back and that you're feeling better. this... there's a lot to worry about what happened in the past let me say first, no one wants to read another trump's retrospective so i set out to write something very different. i got frustrated that there was not an authoritative account out there about what would happen if donald trump returns to the white house. and the likelihood of that is very
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high or copycat rigidity to the white house was at this incident that happened in 2017 is a great example of why. in that period, this is reported for the first time in this book, the department i was helping lead, the department of home and security had to for the first time in its existence do nuclear planning for the possibility of a real—life nuclear strike on the united states for that why? because we grew so concerned about donald trumps bellicose rhetoric towards north korea. most of which was unplanned and uncoordinated, we were worried it would spiral the united states into an actual nuclear conflict. make no mistake about the department of homeland security often does exercises to prepare for nuclear war or dirty bombs from terrace. this was the first time to my knowledge that we had to practice a real—life potential scenario because we were worried about the president putting his finger on the red button and starting a conflict that we wouldn't be able to
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de—escalate from. i have even graver worry about trump returning to the white house or a copycat being equally if not more reckless with the presidency in a second term. because there won't be those guardrails or those people there to tell him to stop.— guardrails or those people there to tell him to stop. we've talked about it on this programme _ tell him to stop. we've talked about it on this programme and _ tell him to stop. we've talked about it on this programme and row - tell him to stop. we've talked aboutl it on this programme and row written about, the concerns that were there in the white house. we should make the point that back in 2018 we knew there were problems but it worry you that blew the whistle from inside the administration in that new york times column, which we reported on the hundred days program. you talked about a quiet resistance in the trump administration. how far back to that resistance go? what do you think you stopped? it to that resistance go? what do you think you stopped?— think you stopped? it was misunderstood _ think you stopped? it was misunderstood a - think you stopped? it was misunderstood a little - think you stopped? it was misunderstood a little bit| think you stopped? it was l misunderstood a little bit at think you stopped? it was - misunderstood a little bit at the time because what we were not was some sort of deep state internal
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coup. but i was referring to was public servants of conscience who were very worried about unethical, immoral and sometimes illegal orders coming out of the white house. people who were willing to resist those orders and speak truth to power to make sure that bad things didn't happen, make sure the levers of power in government were not webinars for political purposes. what we did not do was defy the lawful orders of a sitting commander—in—chief. —— weapon eyes. but the world knows is donald trump systematically identify people in the administration who were willing to tell him know about willing to tell him about illegal behaviour and he fired them and may he push them out or he did such shocking things that lead people like me to quit and determine that the only way to oppose him was from the outside. i will say, i do have some regrets about doing that and ominously for
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that i learned once i finally unmasked myself —— anonymously. the best way was to attach my name to those criticisms because it made it easier for others to follow suit. he roasted you. what did that mean for you and your family? roasted you. what did that mean for you and yourfamily? for roasted you. what did that mean for you and your family?— roasted you. what did that mean for you and your family? for sure. folks don't need — you and your family? for sure. folks don't need to — you and your family? for sure. folks don't need to have _ you and your family? for sure. folks don't need to have sympathy - you and your family? for sure. folks don't need to have sympathy for- you and your family? for sure. folks don't need to have sympathy for me | don't need to have sympathy for me but i am a cautionary tale of how dissent is not treated in the united states. i said this before but turning against the president did cost me my home, it cost me myjob, it cost me my families personal security, close relationships and i ended up on election night 2020 in a safe house alone in northern virginia under armed guard with a pistol under my pillow because of the death threats. that is what dissent looks like today with the spike in political intimidation and violence in this country. it's one of the things i really worry about if there is a second term of a hyper
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populist president like trump. i worry they will use the levers of power to squash dissent. that's why i wrote back and i hope people heed the warning. you i wrote back and i hope people heed the warning-— the warning. you say -- blowback. you say peeple _ the warning. you say -- blowback. you say people would say - the warning. you say -- blowback. you say people would say they - the warning. you say -- blowback. | you say people would say they were ready to put country before career. yes, there was a cohort of great men and women who would do that. but not everybody. and some serious people. there were secretaries of state, jim mathis, john kelly, it tillers income of these were serious people. they didn't come forward. min; income of these were serious people. they didn't come forward.— they didn't come forward. why not? it was a frustration _ they didn't come forward. why not? it was a frustration of _ they didn't come forward. why not? it was a frustration of mine. - they didn't come forward. why not? it was a frustration of mine. i - it was a frustration of mine. i would be lying if i said it wasn't probably the greatest disappointment of my career in washington. what i am encouraged by is that there were people that came out. they may not of been household names butjake tapper at cnn on the eve of the 2020 election called us the largest group of ex—administration officials in american history to turn against a
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president who appointed them. unfortunately, that was at the household name it would mid—career professionals who ended up standing up professionals who ended up standing up for that i worry that next time there won't be those people to speak out. and most of the people i interviewed for this book, most are republicans and people trump himself appointed. there worry is in a second administration it will be staffed by what they call fifth—graders are people without a conscience or enablers. it will be political loyalists who are always willing to say yes and unwilling to resist unlawful orders. what willing to say yes and unwilling to resist unlawful orders. what really struck me about _ resist unlawful orders. what really struck me about the _ resist unlawful orders. what really struck me about the book- resist unlawful orders. what really struck me about the book largely i struck me about the book largely because you had a female boss within homeland security, kirsten nielsen was the secretary of homeland security, was how he treated women. that's important contacts for that what we think about the civil case in which he was found liable and also the case he's facing in
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manhattan. how did you view the way that he treated women generally within the administration? pretty horrific. it was _ within the administration? pretty horrific. it was grotesque - within the administration? pretty horrific. it was grotesque in - within the administration? pretty horrific. it was grotesque in my l horrific. it was grotesque in my view. i actually struggled with whether to even include antidotes like this in blowback because you can make an argument that that's about the man's personal character defects. but it's become abundantly clear to us that trump's st personal defects have imprinted themselves in a wider political movement. it's very relevant to understand how this man operates because people are mimicking his behavior. during the administration he was misogynistic, he talked about looks and appearances on television, he made sexual references to his own daughter. that's one of the things i felt was important to talk about. because even his hard—core supporters i've got to think will draw a line at incest. incestuous comments are thought to be something that they are willing to turn
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against the man when they hear about. it's important for them to understand his character, especially if they're even considering re—interviewing him for the job of president of the united states. obviously, we started this segment talking about what he is now facing and perhaps a federal indictment in relation to 20/20. if you look at the polls it is not doing him any damage. there is very strong chance that he will be the republican candidate. what effect do you hope this book will have for people who read it? particularly in the united states who may be wavering whether to vote for him or not.— to vote for him or not. there was a great piece — to vote for him or not. there was a great piece of _ to vote for him or not. there was a great piece of reporting _ to vote for him or not. there was a great piece of reporting out - to vote for him or not. there was a great piece of reporting out of - to vote for him or not. there was a great piece of reporting out of the | great piece of reporting out of the new york times this week about how trump would webinars the presidency if he returns to office and they've been developing a plan for that. —— webinars. that was the tip of the iceberg. this book is the full
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playbook from the mouths of the people who are writing it about how they would go about weapon i think they would go about weapon i think the levers of government. but i hope this is a chance for people to peek into the future, be alarmed enough about it that they decide to turn against this guy in the presidential primary for that even beyond that i hope it is another wake—up call that we only have perhaps 1a or 15 months to reinforce democracies guardrails in the united states to prepare for the possibility that someone like this could take office. make no mistake, the policy of the united states will be a danger to all allied nations if someone like donald trump returns to office because he will revert to this posture of favouring autocrats and opposing our allies, which i think puts the wider west in the democratic alliance in danger. now is the moment for us to really consider and walk back from the brink. it pains me to say and it
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sounds hyperbolic but i think democracy is on a nice edge in the united states. i say that is a national security professional not as a political commentator. miles ta lor, as a political commentator. miles taylor. we _ as a political commentator. miles taylor, we salute _ as a political commentator. miles taylor, we salute your _ as a political commentator. miles taylor, we salute your bravery . as a political commentator. miles taylor, we salute your bravery those years ago in the administration. congratulations on the book. it's a very good read. thank you for coming on the programme for the christian, thank you and i'm glad to see you are feeling better. we will go to a short break. we will be right back. bbc news bringing you different stories from across the uk. five years of intensive medical training, butjust the start of their careers in medical practice. it's my pleasure to present to you graduates from the faculty of health, education, medicine and social care. it all began back in 2018, when the anglia ruskin medical school welcomed its first hundred students. the university vice chancellor acknowledged that when it opened, the county had some of the highest patient to gp ratios in the country and things have got more challenging since then.
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but what did the students make of their course? i remember being with patients who were palliative, which means that they have a terminal illness and they're going to die soon. and it was just a privilege because itjust really made me think about the beauty of life. i've came here, i've trained here. i've been given a lot of opportunity from the area. so i want to give something back to the local community. it's hoped these graduates will be part of the government's recently announced workforce strategy. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. meta is to release a new version of their ai model. it's a rival to chat gpt and google's bard. but unlike the competition, llama 2 will be open source — which means it will available for those outside the company to experiment with and improve the platform. good for innovation say some. but it does raise concerns.
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where are the guard—rails? and who is overseeing that development? questions that were put earlier to meta's president of global affairs nick clegg by my colleague nick robinson. it's not really whether open sourcing of these large language models is going to take place, the question is how can you do it as responsibly and safely as possible. and i feel i can assert today without any fear of contradiction that the large language models that we are open sourcing are safer than any of the other ai and large language models which have been open—source. because? if i could just finish, we've done far more rigorous testing of all these things and done so very, very transparently, precisely so people can examine these systems themselves. live now to renee cummings, professor of practice in data science and ai ethicist at the university of virginia. thank you very much for being with us. this platform is basically joining the dots, it's making sense of large data sets. which is probably correct. it didn't mention the pace of change and what the next
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generation of ai it might look like. is he downplaying the risks? thank you for having me for the i think the question is transparency for that what were talking about transparency where talking about the fact that meda is yet to release the information of the data sets used to trade this model. one of the things they spoke about —— metaphor that they spoke about —— metaphor that they don't understand the risks. and some of the risk we've already experience with the ai models are biased. discrimination or disseminate information and bolso does and michael want to say their model spews the same kind of toxic behavior. when it comes to trust and accountability those challenges are still there for the we've got to think those apical guardrails. this technology on society.— think those apical guardrails. this technology on society. we've had an announcement _ technology on society. we've had an announcement in _ technology on society. we've had an announcement in the _ technology on society. we've had an announcement in the past _ technology on society. we've had an announcement in the past week- technology on society. we've had an| announcement in the past week from elon musk for is developing his own
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platform, googles barges up to a0 countries. do you think is a risk that the ai is just populated by big fish? does not further stifle innovation?— fish? does not further stifle innovation? . ., fish? does not further stifle innovation? . . , innovation? the challenge there is not 'ust innovation? the challenge there is not just the _ innovation? the challenge there is notjust the big — innovation? the challenge there is notjust the big fish _ innovation? the challenge there is not just the big fish it's _ innovation? the challenge there is not just the big fish it's that - innovation? the challenge there is not just the big fish it's that they l notjust the big fish it's that they are all dipping from the same well. they are scraping the internet and they are getting these large language models and it's a case of exploration, experimentation and of course it's also about exploitation. exploitation of our data and the ways in which they are using the data. and the challenges that is, when we think about innovation we want to think about apical innovation. many of these large language models although many can do some very brilliant things they are creating some very unique challenges in particular when we think about marginalised... in particular when we think about marginalised. . ._ in particular when we think about marginalised... buyers. companies don't have a _ marginalised... buyers. companies don't have a good _ marginalised... buyers. companies don't have a good record _ marginalised... buyers. companies don't have a good record on -
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marginalised... buyers. companies don't have a good record on this . marginalised... buyers. companies don't have a good record on this onj don't have a good record on this on social media. == don't have a good record on this on social media-— social media. -- bias. where were the guardrails _ social media. -- bias. where were the guardrails be _ social media. -- bias. where were the guardrails be this? _ social media. -- bias. where were the guardrails be this? the - the guardrails be this? the guardrails have to come from us. many of the big tech companies are saying that there's deploying technology and they are waiting to see how it is used it to see how far it's pushed for the up and the kinds of risks that are going to be created. we've got to take a humans rights approach. we've better take a rights approach. we've better take a rights —based approach to this technology because we're realising the impact of technology is so critical. it's created a very serious civil rights and human rights challenges for us at the moment. ,., ., ., ., ~ rights challenges for us at the moment. ., ., ~ ., ., ~ moment. good to talk to you. thank ou for moment. good to talk to you. thank you for coming _ moment. good to talk to you. thank you for coming on — moment. good to talk to you. thank you for coming on the _ moment. good to talk to you. thank you for coming on the program. - if you have ever been to the roman city of pompeii you will know only to well what an extraordinary journey into the past, it is. destroyed almost 2 thousand years ago, the dense ash and pumice which fell from mount vesuvius, has preserved much of the roman way of life. but exciting to think that one—third of the city is yet to be excavated. some of that work is now being done
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in a major new dig and it is turning up new treasures, a shrine adorned with serpents, this fresco resembling a pizza, and of course further human remains. you can see the unexcavated areas here marked in yellow. let's hear a bit from our science editor rebecca morelle who's been given exclusive access to this new site. this is one of the main streets of pompeii. it would have been a hive of activity. but let me take you through this entrance into one of the newly excavated areas. this is an atrium, the heart of the building, with a series of rooms running off to each side. at its centre would have been a fountain gently splashing. and you can see, if you come down here, the beautifully preserved white mosaic floor. and the plumbing looks as if it could have been installed just yesterday. raffaele romano is a tour guide and owner of the grand tour experience — and he's also an archaeologist.
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i spoke to an archaeologist in rome some years ago and said the reason we don't dig up the etruscan kings as we know the next generation of archaeologists will do it much better. is that the reason they waited so long to excavate this part of the city? waited so long to excavate this part ofthe ci ? , waited so long to excavate this part of the city?— of the city? exactly. good evening, eve one. of the city? exactly. good evening, everyone- yes. _ of the city? exactly. good evening, everyone. yes, pompeii— of the city? exactly. good evening, everyone. yes, pompeii is- of the city? exactly. good evening, everyone. yes, pompeii is an - of the city? exactly. good evening, everyone. yes, pompeii is an open | everyone. yes, pompeii is an open book. recently we started to discover much more of the agent site. with the new technology we can understand much more comparing excavations of the 50s or 60s over the last excavations of pompeii took place. in the last 13 years pompeii discovered much more for that recently they found the body of three people, two girls and one king about three orfour three people, two girls and one king about three or four years ago. they died under the collapse of her roof. spectacular, even if it's not definitely a pizza since it was
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invented much later. but it was a dried piece of bread that was used for take away food. just dried piece of bread that was used for take away food.— for take away food. just on the programme — for take away food. just on the programme how _ for take away food. just on the programme how we _ for take away food. just on the programme how we need - for take away food. just on the programme how we need to i for take away food. just on the - programme how we need to heatproof our city so that is there a danger given the extra neri temperatures you got there that you exposed us to the elements and lose some of the? that is really a big danger. for the weather, for the atmosphere co. problem the rain, the heat it can really damage much more of the city. it's important to keep part of the site covered. the ash, and 709a. d thatis site covered. the ash, and 709a. d that is a perfect seal for the archaeologist cover for the info we can get how romans lived from the new and future excavations. there's all this still — new and future excavations. there's all this still to _ new and future excavations. there's all this still to be _ new and future excavations. there's all this still to be found _ new and future excavations. there's all this still to be found at _ all this still to be found at herculaneum. what are we learning that we didn't previously know?
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about the way the romans lived, have we discovered new things in recent years? we discovered new things in recent ears? .. we discovered new things in recent years? basically we're discovering new thin . s years? basically we're discovering new things in _ years? basically we're discovering new things in terms _ years? basically we're discovering new things in terms of _ years? basically we're discovering new things in terms of about - years? basically we're discovering new things in terms of about the i new things in terms of about the seas, medicine and technology, we can understand the expectancy of life. what kind of diet they had. much more re—currency of years ago for the last year pompeii had the first time a dna code for a person living that extra neri site. julio basically the info of daily life much more than decades ago. remarkable. the next time a monopoly and get a come find you a view can introduce me to these parts that have been discovered. that is your man if go this summer. thank you very much indeed. coming up in the next few minutes we will talk inflation, talk ai, and that green lash we were discovering last night. telling us about voters who are
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churning on the expensive solutions to the green transitions for that we will be right back. hello. i wonder if you remember what you were doing this time last year? well, chances are you were sweating. yes, it was the uk's hottest day on record — a0.3 celsius recorded in lincolnshire. fast—forward to today — what a different story. one year later, a lot of cloud around, some showers, and temperatures at best into the low 20s. now the day's showers are starting to fade away, so for many of us, the weather will become drier over the next few hours. a few showers pushing into the far north of scotland, though. quite a cool kind of night forjuly, with temperatures dipping down in single figures — scotland, northern ireland, wales and western areas of england. so a cool start to the day on thursday for the early—risers, but there should be plenty of dry weather and sunshine. showers will start to develop, and i think the greatest risk of seeing some of those showers will be across northern
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and eastern scotland, and into parts of northeast england. elsewhere, there should be some pretty big gaps between the showers — that means there'll be quite a few of you that stay dry all day. temperatures a little bit below average, but in thejuly sunshine should still feel 0k. friday, a largely dry picture with some sunshine for england and wales, but for scotland and northern ireland, this time we'll see some thicker cloud working off the atlantic, with outbreaks of rain pushing in from the west through the day. those temperatures struggling — 16—17 degrees, not great in the north, and even 21 in london, that's still 2—3 degrees below average forjuly. the jet stream pattern this weekend, well, we keep the trough to the west of the uk that keeps our weather unsettled. it's this ridge in the jet stream that's been responsible for the extreme heat in europe and, if anything, that ridge is moving a little bit further eastwards — and so too will the highest temperatures. so, we're starting to see some indications that we could see some extreme heat in parts of greece this weekend, maybe even getting quite close to the all—time european temperature record. we'll keep a close eye on that. no chance of anything particularly hot, though, for the uk this weekend.
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it will, though, be particularly wet — and particularly for england and wales, outbreaks of rain moving in here, becoming heavy and persistent, and lasting right into sunday. scotland and northern ireland on saturday, yes, you get some rain, as well. wherever you are, it'll tend to be on the cool side, with temperatures for many of us around 17—18 celsius. but, at least for scotland and northern ireland, the rain should pull away a little bit on sunday to allow something a bit brighter into the afternoon. and then, next week, well, we've got some further showers in the forecast. that's it for now.
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