good morning. right, by—elections, who won it for you? that is on the nation's phone—in this morning. selby and ainsty, somerton and frome, uxbridge and south ruislip. texts and calls, rhymes and reasons, consequences and implications. it will be great hearing from you on this. if you live in one of those constituencies, if you live in a similar constituency, if you live in a constituency nothing like those! let's hear from you, a constituency nothing like those! let's hearfrom you, because a constituency nothing like those! let's hear from you, because this is a big political story. let it all hang out. massive wing for —— massive swing for labour in selby

and ainsty. big swing to the lib dems in somerton and frome. with an interesting, friendly acknowledgement by the lib dem candidate and winner of tactical voting, big part of the story. and uxbridge and ruislip, dominated by ulez. we had an amazing phone—in on ulez. we had an amazing phone—in on ulez a couple of weeks ago. the tories hung on by theirfingertips. who really won the spoils here. a mixed picture, or is actually a very clear picture, there is a bit of blurring on the edge by a local issue, kicking for khan and a bruising for sunak. or is there, for the tories, just a scintilla of hope? contact michael on the phones, 85058 on the texts, get in touch. —— 08085 909693 on the phones.

here is deena campbell with the news. the conservatives have suffered two heavy defeats in yesterday's by—elections. labour overturned a majority of more than 20,000 votes in the north yorkshire seat of selby and ainsty. the lib dems took the somerset seat of somerton and frome, overturning a 19,000 vote majority. but the tories held on to borisjohnson�*s former constituency — the london seat of uxbridge and south ruislip — winning by just a95 votes. some nhs staff in england say they haven't received the one—off payment that was part of a pay deal awarded by the government to nurses and other health workers. prime minister rishi sunak said it shows the next election is not a done deal. some nhs staff in england say they haven't received the one—off payment that was part of a pay deal awarded by the government and other health workers. the issue affects some staff

at an internal agency which provides rota cover. the head of the cia says vladimir putin may still seek revenge on yevgeny prighozin — the leader of the wagner mercenary group who led a failed mutiny in russia — a month ago. william burns said the revolt had exposed weaknesses in the russian president's regime. right, as many voices as possible, please, the morning after the night before, a hard day's night, very hard for the tories. we will look into it. the experts, the psephologists, the voters, you. you are what is important here. let's look at some of the stats. selby in north yorkshire, labour overturned a

conservative majority of 20,137, a 23.7% swing, the party? second biggest on record in a by—election. that is massive. labour's new mp, keir mather, 25 years old, he is the baby of the house. not a very nice phrase. he says his success has rewritten the rules on where labour can win. elsewhere, the lib dem leader sir ed davey says his party is firmly back in its former west country stronghold after winning somerton and frome by more than 10,000 votes. and of course, uxbridge and ruislip, a silver lining for sunak? what do you think? 08085 909693, 85058. look at this, chris in froome, paul in selby. it

is working out well so far. you don't have to be in those particular constituencies, though. wherever you are, what does this mean? chrissy in frome, tell us about your thoughts. well, i think the whole of frome and the somerton area is very disillusioned. we had an mp who didn't_ disillusioned. we had an mp who didn't represent us for a year, 18 months — didn't represent us for a year, 18 months. and everybody was so fed up that they— months. and everybody was so fed up that they were determined not to vote conservative. i think the conservative vote this time was about_ conservative vote this time was about 10,000 where it was usually 36.000 _ about 10,000 where it was usually 36.000 in — about 10,000 where it was usually 36,000 in the general election. the lib dems _

36,000 in the general election. the lib dems won it, as we know. but only with — lib dems won it, as we know. but only with an— lib dems won it, as we know. but only with an increased vote of about 3000 _ only with an increased vote of about 3000. labourweren't in only with an increased vote of about 3000. labour weren't in it at all. and people — 3000. labour weren't in it at all. and people were so fed up. we must have had _ and people were so fed up. we must have had a _ and people were so fed up. we must have had a very low turnout as well. we will _ have had a very low turnout as well. we will find — have had a very low turnout as well. we will find that out. we have a professor of politics at the university of liverpool. the previous mp was mired in scandal and had to resign. would you vote this way in general election? the had to resign. would you vote this way in general election?— way in general election? the way i voted yesterday? _ way in general election? the way i voted yesterday? probably - way in general election? the way i voted yesterday? probably not. i. voted yesterday? probably not. i voted _ voted yesterday? probably not. i voted green, i voted with my heart. i knew_ voted green, i voted with my heart. i knew the _ voted green, i voted with my heart. i knew the lib dems were going to -et i knew the lib dems were going to get in _ i knew the lib dems were going to get in because they were too many disillusioned conservatives and i

thought. — disillusioned conservatives and i thought, just once, i am voting with my heart _ thought, just once, i am voting with m heart. ., ., , , thought, just once, i am voting with| my heart-_ very! my heart. your heart is green. very! david cameron _ my heart. your heart is green. very! david cameron used _ my heart. your heart is green. very! david cameron used to _ my heart. your heart is green. very! david cameron used to have - my heart. your heart is green. very! david cameron used to have a - my heart. your heart is green. very! david cameron used to have a tree l my heart. your heart is green. very! | david cameron used to have a tree in the conservative party logo and he was very much trying to re—forge the party. there are accusations that rishi sunak is less interested in that stuff. let's go to susan macro in uxbridge —— sue in uxbridge. what you think of the outcome? but it wasn't a vote — you think of the outcome? but it wasn't a vote for _ you think of the outcome? but it wasn't a vote for rishi _ you think of the outcome? but it wasn't a vote for rishi sunak, i you think of the outcome? but it wasn't a vote for rishi sunak, it | wasn't a vote for rishi sunak, it wasn't a vote for rishi sunak, it was a vote against ulez and sadiq khan. and i think a few people were probably voting for boris as well because we didn't like the way he was treated. i know he did wrong, but good god, what a witch—hunt. you but good god, what a witch-hunt. you reckon? even — but good god, what a witch-hunt. you reckon? even now, _ but good god, what a witch-hunt. you reckon? even now, they— but good god, what a witch-hunt. you reckon? even now, they won't - but good god, what a witch-hunt. you reckon? even now, they won't let - but good god, what a witch-hunt. you

reckon? even now, they won't let it i reckon? even now, they won't let it no. it's reckon? even now, they won't let it go- it's not — reckon? even now, they won't let it go. it's not fair! _ reckon? even now, they won't let it go. it's not fair! poor _ reckon? even now, they won't let it go. it's not fair! poor little - go. it's not fair! poor little expletive. mind your language! poor little so—and—so. you have been duly chastised. if borisjohnson had been standing, if he decided to put up and shut up and stand again, do you think he would have won? filth. and shut up and stand again, do you think he would have won? oh, yeah, he is liked in — think he would have won? oh, yeah, he is liked in uxbridge _ think he would have won? oh, yeah, he is liked in uxbridge by _ think he would have won? oh, yeah, he is liked in uxbridge by quite - think he would have won? oh, yeah, he is liked in uxbridge by quite a - he is liked in uxbridge by quite a few supporters. the new bloke is probably— few supporters. the new bloke is probably 0k, few supporters. the new bloke is probably ok, but he is not boris. there _ probably 0k, but he is not boris. there is— probably ok, but he is not boris. there is no— probably ok, but he is not boris. there is no one in the tory party that— there is no one in the tory party that can — there is no one in the tory party that can get _ there is no one in the tory party that can get people going. sifter that can get people going. after everything. _ that can get people going. after everything, some _ that can get people going. after everything, some people - that can get people going. he everything, some people will be shouting at the radio and tv, after everything he has done to degrade british politics...

everything he has done to degrade british politics. . ._ british politics... yeah, but it wasn't the — british politics... yeah, but it wasn't the tory _ british politics... yeah, but it wasn't the tory party - british politics... yeah, but it wasn't the tory party that - british politics... yeah, but it| wasn't the tory party that won british politics... yeah, but it - wasn't the tory party that won the red wall, — wasn't the tory party that won the red wall, it — wasn't the tory party that won the red wall, it was boris. but that is 'ust red wall, it was boris. but that is just my— red wall, it was boris. but that is just my opinion. we red wall, it was boris. but that is just my opinion-— red wall, it was boris. but that is just my opinion. we cherish that. we want our just my opinion. we cherish that. we want your opinion. _ just my opinion. we cherish that. we want your opinion. not _ just my opinion. we cherish that. we want your opinion. not necessarily i want your opinion. not necessarily yourfruity want your opinion. not necessarily your fruity language, want your opinion. not necessarily yourfruity language, but want your opinion. not necessarily your fruity language, but we want your fruity language, but we want your opinion. so we have had somebody whose heart is green and we have somebody whose heart is for boris. ! have somebody whose heart is for boris. ., ., , , . ., boris. i have lived in a speech for 30 ears boris. i have lived in a speech for 30 years and _ boris. i have lived in a speech for 30 years and it's _ boris. i have lived in a speech for 30 years and it's the _ boris. i have lived in a speech for 30 years and it's the first - boris. i have lived in a speech for 30 years and it's the first time i l 30 years and it's the first time i have _ 30 years and it's the first time i have treen— 30 years and it's the first time i have been bombarded by candidates. —— | have been bombarded by candidates. -- i have _ have been bombarded by candidates. —— i have lived in uxbridge for 30 years _ —— i have lived in uxbridge for 30 years we — —— i have lived in uxbridge for 30 years. we don't usually see anybody. wednesday _ years. we don't usually see anybody. wednesday in uxbridge, flipping heck! _ wednesday in uxbridge, flipping heck! i_ wednesday in uxbridge, flipping heck! i can say that, can't i? they were hanging _ heck! i can say that, can't i? they were hanging on _ heck! i can say that, can't i? they were banging on your _ heck! i can say that, can't i? they were banging on your doors, - heck! i can say that, can't i? tie: were banging on your doors, weren't they? where were they when we needed them all those years ago?—

them all those years ago? nicky, can i interact? them all those years ago? nicky, can i interact? l — them all those years ago? nicky, can | interact? | didn't _ them all those years ago? nicky, can i interact? i didn't vote _ i interact? i didn't vote conservative. my heart is green, but i didn't vote conservative!— i didn't vote conservative! thanks for correcting _ i didn't vote conservative! thanks for correcting me _ i didn't vote conservative! thanks for correcting me on _ i didn't vote conservative! thanks for correcting me on that. - i didn't vote conservative! thanks for correcting me on that. but - i didn't vote conservative! thanks| for correcting me on that. but you are a conservative, that was what i meant to say. let's hear from one of boris johnson's successors, meant to say. let's hear from one of borisjohnson's successors, the current prime minister rishi sunak has been speaking this morning. prime minister, ulez has helped you here, but in other parts of the country where you did well in 2019, you have been thumped. the results from last night show us that the country isn't buying your message and you have a mountain to climb.— mountain to climb. westminster has been actin: mountain to climb. westminster has been acting like _ mountain to climb. westminster has been acting like the _ mountain to climb. westminster has been acting like the next _ mountain to climb. westminster has been acting like the next election i been acting like the next election is a done deal. labour has been acting like a done deal. uxbridge have been saying it is not. no one expected us to win here, but steve's victory demonstrates that when confronted with the reality of the labour party, when there is an actual choice on a matter of

substance at stake, people vote conservative.— conservative. let's speak to professor — conservative. let's speak to professor jon _ conservative. let's speak to professorjon tonge - conservative. let's speak to professorjon tonge from i conservative. let's speak to l professorjon tonge from the professorjon tonge from the university of liverpool. did you hear mr sunak there?— university of liverpool. did you hear mr sunak there? yes, and that is the line of— hear mr sunak there? yes, and that is the line of attack _ hear mr sunak there? yes, and that is the line of attack you _ hear mr sunak there? yes, and that is the line of attack you would i is the line of attack you would expect from rishi sunak. mas is the line of attack you would expect from rishi sunak. was that a fixed smile or _ expect from rishi sunak. was that a fixed smile or a _ expect from rishi sunak. was that a fixed smile or a genuine _ expect from rishi sunak. was that a fixed smile or a genuine one? i i fixed smile or a genuine one? i doubt it was happy and fixed smile or a genuine one? t doubt it was happy and genuine in the sense that the position is still bleak for the conservatives. if you look at the size of the swing against the conservatives in selby and ainsty, it was huge, 23%. if you look at the size of the swing against the conservatives in somerton and frome, 29%. those swings are of the order of what happened the last time the conservatives were swept from power in the 1990s, when the average swing by which the conservatives lost was 23%. you have to park uxbridge and south ruislip to some extent because it was about a local issue. the

significance of uxbridge and south ruislip is that both parties will be running away from strong green policies as a consequence of that by—election result. so it does matter, but in terms of the next election, it is the other by—elections that count. in that sense, the situation is still bleak for rishi sunak. there is still a narrow path for the conservatives to at least deprive labour of an overall majority, but it is a narrow path because those by—election swings are huge. but path because those by-election swings are huge.— path because those by-election swings are huge. but with all the trials and tribulations _ swings are huge. but with all the trials and tribulations of- swings are huge. but with all the trials and tribulations of people i swings are huge. but with all the i trials and tribulations of people up and down the country, in that particular by—election, the shining light of keir starmer cannot overcome that local issue. does that tell a story about keir starmer? he may be not the most inspiring labour leader and that might be a problem. it is a problem in policy terms for keir starmer but as he launched the

big new idea last year which was the new green economy. since then, keir starmer has been growing back from that, initially on cost grounds and now he has electoral grounds to row back from it. according to his critics, keir starmer is also frightened of english devolution. and here is an example of local power, the power wielded by london mayor sadiq khan that has backfired for uxbridge and south ruislip. labour should have taken it back last night, so it's a policy headache for keir starmer. his critics would say his big new original idea on the new green economy is in difficulty now, given what has happened electorally. but if you look at the overall ratings, labour are still well ahead. the other path to victory for the conservatives was the relative personal popularity of rishi sunak, but recent polls suggest he has fallen 10% behind keir starmer in terms of who would make the best

prime minister. you have got to go back to 1979, when the person who is trailing on who would make best prime minister won an election a0 years ago, when margaret thatcher won. so rishi sunak is still in deep water. but of course he is going to promote uxbridge and south ruislip as an example of unpopular labour policies and this is what you get from a labour government. he will make hay with that all day today. sadiq khan has confirmed that the tories initially laid out their policy. finally, never mind the ultra low emission zone, it seems that there is an ultra low risk zone in labour policy at the moment. professorjohn curtice referred to it as a ming vase policy. make sure you don't drop anything. is that

going to work next year? it is going to work next year? it is artl going to work next year? it is partly dependent _ going to work next year? it 3 partly dependent on how the economy performs. the narrow path for rishi sunak is that inflation keeps falling, strikes end, the economy improves and there is a generous final budget which rishi sunak still has up his sleeve. those is other possible routes to an election victory for the conservatives, improbable though it may seem. for keir starmer, people don't see him as charismatic. they want to know what policies labour is offering. when tony blair swept labour to office, he had five clear central policies that labour was going to introduce. we haven't heard that from labour and if they are now running away from their green agenda, which was bright and radical in many ways, then there is a problem of identity for keir starmer. but he is still the favourite. the debate this morning is still about whether he can get an overall majority. i would still expect keir starmer to be the next prime minister. but there is a long

time to go stop the difficulty for rishi sunak is that the by—elections are not over, potentially. you have got chris pincher�*s seat in tamil. and nadine dorries. —— in tamworth. for nadine dorries, the longest resignation in political history. the conservatives can turn around and said the turnout was 20,000 votes lower in selby and ainsty last night compared to the general election, when they stay at home conservatives will return, but that is a leap of faith based on the overall polling evidence. thank you. let's no to overall polling evidence. thank you. let's go to uxbridge _ overall polling evidence. thank you. let's go to uxbridge and _ overall polling evidence. thank you. let's go to uxbridge and ruislip i overall polling evidence. thank you. let's go to uxbridge and ruislip and j let's go to uxbridge and ruislip and our correspondent, the great nick eardley. nick, what an interesting subtext to an interesting night where you are.— subtext to an interesting night

where you are. subtext to an interesting night where ou are. ., ., where you are. you can always tell there was a _ where you are. you can always tell there was a by-election _ where you are. you can always tell there was a by-election going i where you are. you can always tell there was a by-election going on l there was a by—election going on when you are standing outside a cafe at 9.15 in the morning. you are right. overnight, it was overall a bad result for the conservatives, losing those two by—elections in somerton and selby. it was pretty disastrous, but it was the result here in south ruislip and uxbridge which has kind of saved rishi sunak�*s blushes. he was here a few minutes ago in this cafe saying that this shows the general election isn't a done deal and that when some of labour's policies are scrutinised, the public don't like them. he was talking about ulez, the low emission zone in london which is being extended to outer london to places like this. most people think thatis places like this. most people think that is what helped the conservative candidate win. he is here, steve tuckwell. i hear this is your favourite cafe? t tuckwell. i hear this is your favourite cafe?— favourite cafe? i was here yesterday. _ favourite cafe? i was here yesterday, had _ favourite cafe? i was here yesterday, had a -

favourite cafe? i was here yesterday, had a big i favourite cafe? i was here i yesterday, had a big breakfast favourite cafe? i was here _ yesterday, had a big breakfast ready for the _ yesterday, had a big breakfast ready for the big _ yesterday, had a big breakfast ready for the big push on polling day and it was— for the big push on polling day and it was great to have a prime minister— it was great to have a prime minister here today. let it was great to have a prime minister here today.- it was great to have a prime minister here today. let me ask you about the result. _ minister here today. let me ask you about the result. was _ minister here today. let me ask you about the result. was it _ minister here today. let me ask you about the result. was it all - minister here today. let me ask you about the result. was it all down i minister here today. let me ask you about the result. was it all down to | about the result. was it all down to ulez? this about the result. was it all down to ulez? �* , , ., about the result. was it all down to ulez? r ~' ., about the result. was it all down to ulez? a ~ ., ., , ulez? as you know, i have been campaigning _ ulez? as you know, i have been campaigning for— ulez? as you know, i have been campaigning forjust _ ulez? as you know, i have been campaigning forjust over- ulez? as you know, i have been campaigning forjust over five i ulez? as you know, i have been i campaigning forjust over five weeks now. campaigning forjust over five weeks now i_ campaigning forjust over five weeks now i hit _ campaigning forjust over five weeks now. i hit every pavement slab and knocked _ now. i hit every pavement slab and knocked on — now. i hit every pavement slab and knocked on thousands of dollars. the people _ knocked on thousands of dollars. the people of— knocked on thousands of dollars. the people of this constituency made this by—election a referendum on ulez _ this by—election a referendum on ulez they— this by—election a referendum on ulez. they told me loud and clear that ulez — ulez. they told me loud and clear that ulez was not welcome here, they didn't— that ulez was not welcome here, they didn't want— that ulez was not welcome here, they didn't want it, it was going to devastate small businesses and cost families— devastate small businesses and cost families £4500 a year to go about their daily— families £4500 a year to go about their daily routine. ulez families £4500 a year to go about their daily routine.— their daily routine. ulez was originally — their daily routine. ulez was originally a _ their daily routine. ulez was originally a concept - their daily routine. ulez was originally a concept of i their daily routine. ulez was originally a concept of the i their daily routine. ulez was i originally a concept of the former mp for here when he was london mayor, borisjohnson. the mp for here when he was london mayor, boris johnson. the decision to ush mayor, boris johnson. the decision to push ulez _ mayor, boris johnson. the decision to push ulez into _ mayor, boris johnson. the decision to push ulez into outer _ mayor, boris johnson. the decision to push ulez into outer london i mayor, boris johnson. the decision j to push ulez into outer london was that of— to push ulez into outer london was that of sadiq khan, the london mayor~ — that of sadiq khan, the london ma or. ~ , ., �* ., , mayor. were you telling boris johnson when _ mayor. were you telling boris johnson when he _ mayor. were you telling boris johnson when he was - mayor. were you telling boris johnson when he was an i mayor. were you telling boris johnson when he was an mp l mayor. were you telling boris i johnson when he was an mp here mayor. were you telling boris - johnson when he was an mp here that johnson when he was an mp here that he was wrong to come up with ulez in the first place?— the first place? pushing ulez into outer london _ the first place? pushing ulez into outer london was _ the first place? pushing ulez into outer london was not _ the first place? pushing ulez into outer london was not boris i the first place? pushing ulez into i outer london was not boris johnson's outer london was not borisjohnson's decision _ outer london was not borisjohnson's decision~ so— outer london was not borisjohnson's decision. so holding the london

mayor— decision. so holding the london mayor to— decision. so holding the london mayor to account by winning this by—election was a clear message from the people _ by—election was a clear message from the people of this constituency that they don't— the people of this constituency that they don't want ulez and that message has to be heard. that is clear, message has to be heard. that is clear. but — message has to be heard. that is clear. but l'm _ message has to be heard. that is clear, but i'm wondering - message has to be heard. that is clear, but i'm wondering about i message has to be heard. that is. clear, but i'm wondering about the broader politics of your results. we just had rishi sunak in here a few minutes ago, saying this shows it is game on for the general election, nothing is a done deal, the conservatives can still win. but if you look at the results elsewhere, is going to be a tall order to hold onto power. is going to be a tall order to hold onto power-— is going to be a tall order to hold onto power. well, i was privileged to be elected _ onto power. well, i was privileged to be elected for— onto power. well, i was privileged to be elected for the _ onto power. well, i was privileged to be elected for the area - onto power. well, i was privileged to be elected for the area in i onto power. well, i was privileged to be elected for the area in which j to be elected for the area in which i to be elected for the area in which i was _ to be elected for the area in which i was born, — to be elected for the area in which i was born, raised, to be elected for the area in which iwas born, raised, raised to be elected for the area in which i was born, raised, raised a family and where — i was born, raised, raised a family and where i— i was born, raised, raised a family and where i live. i have spent all my life _ and where i live. i have spent all my life in — and where i live. i have spent all my life in this constituency, knocking _ my life in this constituency, knocking on doors and talking to people — knocking on doors and talking to people. they sent the message that ulez was— people. they sent the message that ulez was not welcome. they have been asking _ ulez was not welcome. they have been asking me _ ulez was not welcome. they have been asking me to _ ulez was not welcome. they have been asking me to send sadiq khan the message — asking me to send sadiq khan the message. but asking me to send sadiq khan the messare. �* ., , ., i. message. but what message are you auoin to message. but what message are you going to send — message. but what message are you going to send rishi _ message. but what message are you going to send rishi sunak, _ message. but what message are you going to send rishi sunak, because i going to send rishi sunak, because voters talk about other things other than ulez, right? is the prime minister doing enough? cost of

livin: is a minister doing enough? cost of living is a big — minister doing enough? cost of living is a big issue _ minister doing enough? cost of living is a big issue and - minister doing enough? cost of living is a big issue and it i minister doing enough? cost of. living is a big issue and it affects me as _ living is a big issue and it affects me as well _ living is a big issue and it affects me as well. i helped ensure that residents— me as well. i helped ensure that residents of uxbridge and south ruislip — residents of uxbridge and south ruislip don't get hit by that £4500... ruislip don't get hit by that £4500- - -— ruislip don't get hit by that £4500. .. ~ ., ., ~ ., ,., £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. our £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. 0ur audience — £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. our audience will _ £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. our audience will get _ £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. our audience will get that. _ £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. our audience will get that. but i £4500. .. we have talked about ulez. our audience will get that. but do i our audience will get that. but do you think the prime minister is doing a good job, and what can he do to replicate results like this elsewhere?— to replicate results like this elsewhere? ,, , elsewhere? supporting me in winning this election- — elsewhere? supporting me in winning this election. i'm _ elsewhere? supporting me in winning this election. i'm going _ elsewhere? supporting me in winning this election. i'm going to _ elsewhere? supporting me in winning this election. i'm going to come i this election. i'm going to come back— this election. i'm going to come back to — this election. i'm going to come back to the _ this election. i'm going to come back to the point that the cost of living _ back to the point that the cost of living issue for residents of uxbridge and south ruislip has been averted _ uxbridge and south ruislip has been averted away from having to incur £4500 _ averted away from having to incur £4500 it�*s — averted away from having to incur £4500. �* , ., averted away from having to incur £4500. �*, ., ., £4500. it's not about their mortgages. _ £4500. it's not about their mortgages. gas _ £4500. it's not about their mortgages, gas bills i £4500. it's not about their mortgages, gas bills and l £4500. it's not about their | mortgages, gas bills and the £4500. it's not about their - mortgages, gas bills and the cost of shopping? £a500. we get that, but are those other cost of living pressures just as prevalent to your electorate or is itjust ulez? t electorate or is itjust ulez? i have been knocking on thousands of dollars _ have been knocking on thousands of dollars. there are issues to address here _ dollars. there are issues to address here ulez— dollars. there are issues to address here. ulez was the number one issue. what _ here. ulez was the number one issue. what are _ here. ulez was the number one issue. what are the — here. ulez was the number one issue.

what are the others?— what are the others? keeping uxbridre what are the others? keeping uxbridge police _ what are the others? keeping uxbridge police station i what are the others? keeping uxbridge police station was i what are the others? keeping i uxbridge police station was another issue and _ uxbridge police station was another issue and also making sure that hillingdon hospital, where i was born— hillingdon hospital, where i was born and — hillingdon hospital, where i was born and my kids were born, i also chair— born and my kids were born, i also chair the _ born and my kids were born, i also chair the planning committee that .ave chair the planning committee that gave that — chair the planning committee that gave that hospital planning permission, we have got fully funding — permission, we have got fully funding for the hospital. and as the mp, funding for the hospital. and as the mp. i_ funding for the hospital. and as the mp. iwill— funding for the hospital. and as the mp, i will make sure my voice is at the front— mp, ! will make sure my voice is at the front of— mp, i will make sure my voice is at the front of the queue making sure that hospital is delivered as quickly— that hospital is delivered as quickly as possible.- that hospital is delivered as quickly as possible. that hospital is delivered as ruickl as ossible. ., ., quickly as possible. how would you rate rishi sunak's _ quickly as possible. how would you rate rishi sunak's chances - quickly as possible. how would you rate rishi sunak's chances of- rate rishi sunak's chances of holding onto power? mr; rate rishi sunak's chances of holding onto power? my focus is on what happened _ holding onto power? my focus is on what happened last _ holding onto power? my focus is on what happened last night. - holding onto power? my focus is on what happened last night. i - holding onto power? my focus is on what happened last night. i am i holding onto power? my focus is on i what happened last night. i am going to take _ what happened last night. i am going to take up _ what happened last night. i am going to take up my seat soon in westminster and to take up my seat soon in westminsterand i'm to take up my seat soon in westminster and i'm looking forward to representing the people here in uxbridge _ to representing the people here in uxbridge and south ruislip. i have been _ uxbridge and south ruislip. i have been a _ uxbridge and south ruislip. i have been a serving councillor here for five years — been a serving councillor here for five years i— been a serving councillor here for five years. i have a track record of being _ five years. i have a track record of being approachable. hillingdon council— being approachable. hillingdon council is well respected not only in london — council is well respected not only in london but across the uk. i want to take _ in london but across the uk. i want to take that— in london but across the uk. i want to take that philosophy onto the benches — to take that philosophy onto the benches. we to take that philosophy onto the benches. ~ , , ., benches. we will see you in westminster _ benches. we will see you in westminster soon. - benches. we will see you in westminster soon. nicky, l benches. we will see you in westminster soon. nicky, i| benches. we will see you in i westminster soon. nicky, i lost westminstersoon. nicky, ilost count of how many times ulez was mentioned there. bud

count of how many times ulez was mentioned there.— count of how many times ulez was mentioned there. and the hospital. it was like when _ mentioned there. and the hospital. it was like when we _ mentioned there. and the hospital. it was like when we used _ mentioned there. and the hospital. it was like when we used to - mentioned there. and the hospital. it was like when we used to play i it was like when we used to play drinking games.— it was like when we used to play drinking games. yes, ulez drinking names! drinking games. yes, ulez drinking games! and _ drinking games. yes, ulez drinking games! and the — drinking games. yes, ulez drinking games! and the hospital _ drinking games. yes, ulez drinking games! and the hospital under i drinking games. yes, ulez drinking i games! and the hospital under police station. , �* v games! and the hospital under police station. , �* ., ., station. yes. but it's clear hearing from steve _ station. yes. but it's clear hearing from steve that _ station. yes. but it's clear hearing from steve that he _ station. yes. but it's clear hearing from steve that he thinks - station. yes. but it's clear hearing from steve that he thinks this i station. yes. but it's clear hearing from steve that he thinks this was all about ulez. i suppose that feeds into the bigger question about what last night means. it is more complex than people were expecting it to be this morning. it was primarily about the ulez debate, but the conservatives made it a big issue and they won largely based on their opposition to it. the thing that will worry rishi sunak and a lot of conservatives is that they got thumped in other parts of the country where in 2019, they had massive majorities. mick country where in 2019, they had massive majorities. massive ma'orities. nick eardley, our chief massive majorities. nick eardley, our chief political _ massive majorities. nick eardley, our chief political correspondent i massive majorities. nick eardley, | our chief political correspondent in uxbridge. let's listen to the

voters. get in touch. tony in ruislip, paul in doncaster, paul and selby and michelle in templecombe. good morning to all of you. give me a chorus! a, ., , , , a chorus! morning!! tony in ruislip, ou no a chorus! morning!! tony in ruislip, you go first — a chorus! morning!! tony in ruislip, you go first how— a chorus! morning!! tony in ruislip, you go first. how are _ a chorus! morning!! tony in ruislip, you go first. how are you _ a chorus! morning!! tony in ruislip, you go first. how are you feeling - you go first. how are you feeling and what does this mean? first of all, i have had fines totalling £360 this year. nobody has explained why cars manufactured before 2005 are more polluting than cars manufactured afterwards. why don't they look at finding people who drive 50,000 miles a year rather than my 3000? secondly, as regards emissions, they don't stay overhead

in london, that they get blown into the countryside. the whole thing seems to be a fund—raising exercise on the back of the poorest people. paul, do you want to pick up the ulez point?— paul, do you want to pick up the ulez point? yeah, i feel sorry for these guys. _ ulez point? yeah, i feel sorry for these guys, because _ ulez point? yeah, i feel sorry for these guys, because the - ulez point? yeah, i feel sorry for these guys, because the cost - ulez point? yeah, i feel sorry for these guys, because the cost ofl these guys, because the cost of buying — these guys, because the cost of buying an— these guys, because the cost of buying an electric car, they are far more _ buying an electric car, they are far more expensive than any new petrol car. more expensive than any new petrol can i_ more expensive than any new petrol can i have _ more expensive than any new petrol car. i have looked into the cost of buying _ car. i have looked into the cost of buying solar panels to run an electric— buying solar panels to run an electric car because i have got green — electric car because i have got green feelings, but the outlay for solar_ green feelings, but the outlay for solar panels, if you look at it over a four_ solar panels, if you look at it over a four year— solar panels, if you look at it over a four year costing exercise, they are expensive and no one has that sort of— are expensive and no one has that sort of money in this climate. no one has— sort of money in this climate. no one has an — sort of money in this climate. no one has an extra 10k. so where do they go? _ one has an extra 10k. so where do they go? they either pay the bill or a normal_ they go? they either pay the bill or a normal working guy is stuck in limbo _ a normal working guy is stuck in limbo. , ., , , ., a normal working guy is stuck in limbo. , ., ,, ., , limbo. ulez is massive not 'ust in

london, limbo. ulez is massive not 'ust in london. but i limbo. ulez is massive not 'ust in london, but allfi limbo. ulez is massive not 'ust in london, but all overt limbo. ulez is massive not 'ust in london, but all over the h limbo. ulez is massive notjust in london, but all over the country, j london, but all over the country, where similar schemes are happening or will happen. this was reflected in the phone—in we did recently, tony. we did it for two hours and it was rammed. we saw the political implications in uxbridge. irate was rammed. we saw the political implications in uxbridge.— implications in uxbridge. we all acce -t implications in uxbridge. we all accept climate _ implications in uxbridge. we all accept climate change. - implications in uxbridge. we all accept climate change. we - implications in uxbridge. we all| accept climate change. we know implications in uxbridge. we all- accept climate change. we know we need to _ accept climate change. we know we need to do — accept climate change. we know we need to do something _ accept climate change. we know we need to do something about - accept climate change. we know we need to do something about it, - accept climate change. we know we need to do something about it, buti need to do something about it, but people _ need to do something about it, but people need — need to do something about it, but people need help _ need to do something about it, but people need help to _ need to do something about it, but people need help to make - need to do something about it, but people need help to make the - need to do something about it, butj people need help to make the right decisions — people need help to make the right decisions why— people need help to make the right decisions. why don't _ people need help to make the right decisions. why don't the _ people need help to make the right. decisions. why don't the government passed _ decisions. why don't the government passed legislation _ decisions. why don't the government passed legislation that _ decisions. why don't the government passed legislation that makes - passed legislation that makes electric— passed legislation that makes electric cars _ passed legislation that makes electric cars the _ passed legislation that makes electric cars the same - passed legislation that makes electric cars the same price i passed legislation that makes| electric cars the same price or cheaper— electric cars the same price or cheaper than _ electric cars the same price or cheaper than petrol— electric cars the same price or cheaper than petrol or- electric cars the same price or cheaper than petrol or diesel. electric cars the same price or- cheaper than petrol or diesel cars? why don't— cheaper than petrol or diesel cars? why don't they _ cheaper than petrol or diesel cars? why don't they give _ cheaper than petrol or diesel cars? why don't they give grants - cheaper than petrol or diesel cars? why don't they give grants so - cheaper than petrol or diesel cars? l why don't they give grants so people can have _ why don't they give grants so people can have solar — why don't they give grants so people can have solar panels _ why don't they give grants so people can have solar panels they— why don't they give grants so people can have solar panels they can - why don't they give grants so people can have solar panels they can plug i can have solar panels they can plug the cars _ can have solar panels they can plug the cars into — can have solar panels they can plug the cars into an— can have solar panels they can plug the cars into an evening _ can have solar panels they can plug the cars into an evening and - can have solar panels they can plug the cars into an evening and get. the cars into an evening and get free electric? _ the cars into an evening and get free electric? the _ the cars into an evening and get free electric? the price - the cars into an evening and get free electric? the price of- the cars into an evening and getl free electric? the price of energy is bonkers — free electric? the price of energy is bonkers no _ free electric? the price of energy is bonkers. no one _ free electric? the price of energy is bonkers. no one is— free electric? the price of energy is bonkers. no one is being - free electric? the price of energy. is bonkers. no one is being helped to make _ is bonkers. no one is being helped to make the — is bonkers. no one is being helped to make the right— is bonkers. no one is being helped to make the right decisions. - to make the right decisions. michelle _ to make the right decisions. michelle in— to make the right decisions. michelle in templecombe? i to make the right decisions. j michelle in templecombe? i to make the right decisions.

michelle in templecombe? i have been listenin: and michelle in templecombe? i have been listening and l— michelle in templecombe? i have been listening and i agree. _ michelle in templecombe? i have been listening and i agree. concern - michelle in templecombe? i have been listening and i agree. concern for- listening and i agree. concern for the environment is a big influence in my area in somerset. we would love to have an electric car and solar panels. it's a minefield to know where to start to organise those things. i dread to think how far we would have to drive to plug into a charger. you far we would have to drive to plug into a charger.— into a charger. you don't have to have an urge _ into a charger. you don't have to have an urge car— into a charger. you don't have to have an urge car for— into a charger. you don't have to have an urge car for ulez, - into a charger. you don't have to have an urge car for ulez, just i into a charger. you don't have toj have an urge car for ulez, just to clarify. it isjust have an urge car for ulez, just to clarify. it is just a less polluting car —— you don't have to have an electric car. the greens had solid performances in somerset and frome and also selby and ainsty. that tells another story.— and also selby and ainsty. that tells another story. from what i have heard _ tells another story. from what i have heard from _ tells another story. from what i have heard from people - tells another story. from what i have heard from people around| tells another story. from what i - have heard from people around me, a lot of orange and a smattering of

green, we have oilfired central heating. we struggle with decent broadband connections, terrible mobile signals. we are not far from london, but it can feel a lifetime away. more than anything, what was happening with our results overnight was that we were looking for someone to fight our corner and someone to represent us. for public reasons, we haven't had anyone speaking up for us for the last year. so it was time to have a voice and some changes. paul in selby?— paul in selby? from what i understand, _ paul in selby? from what i understand, the _ paul in selby? from what i l understand, the government paul in selby? from what i - understand, the government wants paul in selby? from what i _ understand, the government wants to -et understand, the government wants to get rid _ understand, the government wants to get rid of— understand, the government wants to get rid of all petrol and diesel cars— get rid of all petrol and diesel cars in. — get rid of all petrol and diesel cars in. i_ get rid of all petrol and diesel cars in, i don't know what year it is. �* , ., cars in, i don't know what year it is. �*, ., .,, cars in, i don't know what year it is. it's not necessarily the year, it depends _ is. it's not necessarily the year, it depends how— is. it's not necessarily the year, it depends how polluting - is. it's not necessarily the year, it depends how polluting they i is. it's not necessarily the year, i

it depends how polluting they are. but how are they going to compensate the people _ but how are they going to compensate the people who have a diesel or petrol— the people who have a diesel or petrol car? they want to convert them _ petrol car? they want to convert them to — petrol car? they want to convert them to electric, so how are they going _ them to electric, so how are they going to — them to electric, so how are they going to pay them for that? a lot of people _ going to pay them for that? a lot of people can't afford to go out and buy a _ people can't afford to go out and buy a new — people can't afford to go out and buy a new electric car or a used electric— buy a new electric car or a used electric car _ buy a new electric car or a used electric car-— buy a new electric car or a used electric car. here is a text. your callers are _ electric car. here is a text. your callers are talking _ electric car. here is a text. your callers are talking rubbish, - electric car. here is a text. your i callers are talking rubbish, nicky, and making points that don't even affect them personally. almost every petrol car since 2006 is ulez compliant and every diesel car since september 2015. compliant and every diesel car since september2015. no compliant and every diesel car since september 2015. no car over a0 years old is liable for ulez. how many people are driving petrol cars and ulez zones that are over 17 years old? diesel is more problem due to the big push to diesel in the 20005, but the noncompliant ones are still over seven years old now and appropriate for city driving anyway.

let me do justice to chris, who sent this, because he has taken time and trouble to do so. this, because he has taken time and trouble to do 50. commercial delivery vehicles are a different problem and the cost of ulez charges needs to be built into the delivery cost model. it is only charge once a day regardless of the number of deliveries. this is a storm in a teacup that is diminishing every day as ineligible vehicles are declining in number every day. there was chris in number every day. there was chris in york. . , ., in number every day. there was chris inyork. . , ., , in york. excellent, but do we accept that it is 46 — in york. excellent, but do we accept that it is 46 degrees _ in york. excellent, but do we accept that it is 46 degrees in _ in york. excellent, but do we accept that it is 46 degrees in europe - in york. excellent, but do we accept that it is 46 degrees in europe at. that it is a6 degrees in europe at the moment? do we accept that it is a6 degrees in america? we are looking to the future of our children and grandchildren. petrol and diesel have a limited lifetime on this planet. we need to pass legislation to make it easier for people. we are talking about white vans. shouldn't the government be targeting companies like amazon to

say all your delivery vans need to be electric by 2025? they are making trillions of dollars profit. i be electric by 2025? they are making trillions of dollars profit.— trillions of dollars profit. i think that is right- — trillions of dollars profit. i think that is right. and _ trillions of dollars profit. i think that is right. and i'm _ trillions of dollars profit. i think that is right. and i'm certain . trillions of dollars profit. i think. that is right. and i'm certain that the whole — that is right. and i'm certain that the whole emission zone thing has been _ the whole emission zone thing has been a _ the whole emission zone thing has been a factor in some of the city is uxbridge — been a factor in some of the city is uxbridge i— been a factor in some of the city is uxbridge. i don't know how much that is a uxbridge. idon't know how much that is a factor— uxbridge. i don't know how much that is a factor here, but the other things— is a factor here, but the other things about future generations, cost of— things about future generations, cost of living, how difficult it is to afford — cost of living, how difficult it is to afford a _ cost of living, how difficult it is to afford a home if you want to stay in the _ to afford a home if you want to stay in the area, — to afford a home if you want to stay in the area, the number of second homes _ in the area, the number of second homes the — in the area, the number of second homes. the challenges of living and trying _ homes. the challenges of living and trying to— homes. the challenges of living and trying to work in rural constituencies, there are a lot more complicated issues than just the cars _ complicated issues than 'ust the cars. ., ., cars. professorjon tonge, loads of calls on ulez- _ cars. professorjon tonge, loads of calls on ulez. it's _ cars. professorjon tonge, loads of calls on ulez. it's not _ cars. professorjon tonge, loads of calls on ulez. it's notjust - cars. professorjon tonge, loads of calls on ulez. it's notjust a - cars. professorjon tonge, loads of calls on ulez. it's notjust a micro i calls on ulez. it's notjust a micro issue, it's and it is a macro issue.

people are arguing that we need to change our lifestyles because of what is happening to the planet, and yet when it comes to it, it's easier said than done. i wonder how much green issues, given everything else thatis green issues, given everything else that is going on, will be a significant factor at the next election. , . .,, election. they are the most important _ election. they are the most important set _ election. they are the most important set of _ election. they are the most important set of issues, - election. they are the most| important set of issues, but election. they are the most - important set of issues, but both the main parties tend to run away from them. david cameron talked a good game on green policies but then dismissed them as c—r—a—p later. now is a problem for keir starmer in two respects. one, he has hung a lot of labour's policy on the green agenda. there have also been doubts about how committed keir starmer is to

devolution, which would give me is like sadiq khan power to introduce more radical green policy i don't think your stomach would be keen if it is going to lose them votes. so thatis it is going to lose them votes. so that is a serious problem for parties to address and none of them are addressing it properly. a serious problem for broader reasons, some would say. and when it comes to politicians, it is the electoral cycle, the time horizon. so many calls on ulez, which tell such a story, doesn't it? certainly tells one in axbridge and rice lake last night. but what about the bigger political stories? the massive swing to labour, the huge swing to the lib dems, what that means as to who will be governing the country at the next election. the by—elections, who won it for you? more to come.

here is the news. thanks, nicky. the conservative party has suffered two macrobid by—election defeats, losing safe seats to labour and the lib dems. labour over to the majority of more than 20,000 votes in the north yorkshire seat of selvy and ainsty. the lib dems won somerset in frame, overturning a 19,000 vote majority. that the tories managed to hold onto boris johnson's that the tories managed to hold onto borisjohnson's former that the tories managed to hold onto boris johnson's former constituency of uxbridge and south rice lip in london, winning byjust under 500 votes. during a visit this morning, rishi sunak said that it showed the next general election was not a done deal and vowed to stick to his plan. in other news, new figures show the government borrowed £18.5 billion last month to bridge the gap between

spending and taxation. that's the third biggestjune deficit on record, but it was smaller than analyst and the government's official forecasters had expected, because of bigger tax receipts. separate figures show retail sales rose .0.7% injune. the barbie movie is out today and marks the first time the character has been brought to the big screen in a live—action feature. margot robbie plays barbie and ryan gosling plays her boyfriend ken. it is going up plays her boyfriend ken. it is going up against crisp christopher nolan's latest project oppenheimer at the uk box office. here is the sport. thanks very much. good morning. one of the there were joint leaders after the first day of the open championship teed off this morning, started the day on five under par sharing the lead with two of the players, but has had a poor start. let's talk to john players, but has had a poor start. let's talk tojohn murray, live at the course. ads, let's talk to john murray, live at the course-— the course. a very different day weather wise _ the course. a very different day weather wise here _ the course. a very different day weather wise here on _ the course. a very different day weather wise here on the - the course. a very different day j weather wise here on the wirral peninsula. very different conditions for the second round. it is overcast

with a brisk breeze. spectators are wrapped up, and there has been movement of the top of the leaderboard. the american brian harman has moved into a share of the lead with a birdie at the second just now, so he is five under with the six foot eight amateur cristo lamprecht and a local favourite tommy fleetwood. tommy fleetwood. tommy fleetwood. tommy fleetwood will begin his second round at 2a0 8p on this afternoon, and marie michael roy for the next half hour. he is level par after his opening 71. —— rory matt gilroy. thanks. john will have full coverage from 11 today. elsewhere, in cricket, former england captain michael vaughan says england captain michael vaughan says england should aim for a lead of around 200 runs on day three of the fourth ashes test. they resume this morning and 38a—a, a lead of 67.

ahead of england's opening match in the women's world cup, captain millie bright says she is fully fit to start against haiti despite her knee problems going into the tournament. today, nigeria drew 0—0 against canada, switzerland beat the philippines, and spain are beating costa rica 3—0. so, much talk of yellows, and many

calls on that. fine, but we need to look at the big story, and the broader implications for politics in this country, for governments and the consequences, and the inferences and all that. so what do you think yeah i think this is a really interesting aspect, which i would love you to get into as well. tactical voting. interestingly, in her victory speech, the lib dems candidate in somerton and frome thanked labour and green supporters who lent their votes to her and also lifelong conservatives who voted lib down for the first time. very deliberate and interesting point that she made, and took the trouble to specifically do it in her speech. friends, romans, countrymen, you lend me your votes. thank you very much indeed. and just to remind you that labour overturned a 20,000 plus majority in selby and ainsty,

which is extraordinary. that would deliver a 1997 style landslide if replicated across the country. the liberal democrats comfortably, as i say, took somerton and frome, winning by 11,000 votes, so thoughts on the bigger picture as well, please. get in touch. let's go to selby. i think we should do that, and our political correspondent david wallace lockhart is there. hello, david. the story there is quite extraordinary. a massive triumph for labour? yes. there is quite extraordinary. a massive triumph for labour? yes, i mean, massive triumph for labour? yes, i mean. this — massive triumph for labour? yes, i mean. this is _ massive triumph for labour? yes, i mean. this is a _ massive triumph for labour? yes, i

mean, this is a conservative - massive triumph for labour? yes, i mean, this is a conservative safe . mean, this is a conservative safe seat on paper until overnight, it had a 20,000 plus majority. the conservatives have held it since 2010, increasing their majority at every election. but it has been a political earthquake here, and now there is a a000 labour majority here. that is actually the biggest majority labour has ever overturned in a by—election, and when you talk about this seat in the general election context, it would not even be that much of a labour target. they could not win this seat and still comfortably get a majority. now, the thing that may worry rishi sunak about here is the issues that were coming up. things like the cost of living, things like people struggling to get doctors�* appointments, people feeling that public transport wasn�*t up to scratch. they are perhaps not that particular to this part of the country. those are issues that probably resonate with a lot of people, and while the conservatives will be hoping this isjust

people, and while the conservatives will be hoping this is just a by—election kicking, people having a go at the current government, as often is the case in by—elections, the bigger worry will be that in a general election context, seats like this that should be safe, blue conservative seats could be under threat of going red, and let�*s remember, someone who has their own constituency not too far from here in north yorkshire as the prime minister himself. tiff in north yorkshire as the prime minister himself.— in north yorkshire as the prime minister himself. of course. and it's interesting, _ minister himself. of course. and it's interesting, isn't _ minister himself. of course. and it's interesting, isn't it, - minister himself. of course. and it's interesting, isn't it, recently| it�*s interesting, isn�*t it, recently that keir starmer put the message out to his candidates and also those who work for the labour party to be... this was reported, essentially nice to conservatives, nice about conservatives, because they know they will need these votes if they want to get that whopping player —esque majority. —— tony blair —esque. -esque ma'ority. -- tony blair -es~ue. , ., ., -esque. exactly. if you want to win in seats like _ -esque. exactly. if you want to win in seats like this _ -esque. exactly. if you want to win in seats like this that _ -esque. exactly. if you want to win in seats like this that have - -esque. exactly. if you want to win in seats like this that have been i in seats like this that have been voting conservative since 2010 and increasingly conservative majority here is a 2010, those are the kind

of voters you have to appeal to. i think for a keir starmer goes beyond being nice to conservative voters. you can see something he is often criticised for is not being radical enough. that is something that comes from certain aspects of his own party, certain aspects of the labour membership of controlling the type of labour candidate that is allowed to run in certain seats, one that will perhaps appeal to the middle ground in politics, and look at the big debate there has been within labour this week about the two child cap on child benefit policy. that is something he has taken a lot of criticism for, but he is adamant he won�*t be making any sort of unfunded pledges when it comes to the economy, and i think thatis comes to the economy, and i think that is a tactic, the aim of which is trying to attract conservative voters, some who meet in the past have felt that labour can be to free and easy with public spending, and keir starmer is trying to tackle

that. you could argue that this result today shows that he is doing something right, but also, of course, something that he will have to watch out for is making sure he does keep that labour base who might want a labour government for the very reason that they think they will spend a bit more on public services. thank you very much indeed, david wallace lockhart, who is our political correspondent, of course, they are in selby and ainsty. and what was i saying earlier, professor john curtis refer to what he said there, the steady as they go policy is the ming vase policy of keir starmer�*s, and one has to congratulate kier mather, the new mp for that area, described overnight in one programme as an inbetweener.

callers, good morning. goad in one programme as an inbetweener. callers, good morning. good morning. same a good — callers, good morning. good morning. same a good morning. _ callers, good morning. good morning. same a good morning. morning. - callers, good morning. good morning. j same a good morning. morning. vicki, i believe you — same a good morning. morning. vicki, i believe you are _ same a good morning. morning. vicki, i believe you are a _ same a good morning. morning. vicki, i believe you are a lifelong _ same a good morning. morning. vicki, i believe you are a lifelong tory. - i believe you are a lifelong tory. you have always voted tory. how are you feeling this morning? i you have always voted tory. how are you feeling this morning?— you feeling this morning? i have to sa i am you feeling this morning? i have to say i am no — you feeling this morning? i have to say i am no longer... _ you feeling this morning? i have to say i am no longer... i— you feeling this morning? i have to say i am no longer... i would - you feeling this morning? i have to say i am no longer... i would no i say i am no longer... i would no longer be a tory voter, and i wish that they have lost all three. that�*s what i was hoping for. i really do wish that they had lost all three, because i think that�*s the way it�*s going to go and i think it would have been a bit more of a wake—up call, because they are now riding off the back of scraping through uxbridge. mit? riding off the back of scraping through uxbridge.— through uxbridge. why ayuso disillusionment? _ through uxbridge. why ayuso disillusionment? why - through uxbridge. why ayuso disillusionment? why have i through uxbridge. why ayuso i disillusionment? why have you through uxbridge. why ayuso - disillusionment? why have you lost the love for a party you voted for whenever you voted? —— why are you so disillusioned? whenever you voted? -- why are you so disillusioned?— so disillusioned? over the last two ears, i so disillusioned? over the last two years. i have _ so disillusioned? over the last two years, i have watched _ so disillusioned? over the last two years, i have watched them - so disillusioned? over the last two years, i have watched them fall. so disillusioned? over the last two i years, i have watched them fall into disrepute and become a joke, really, across the world, and for what is happening in our own country to most people in this country, whether you

are a homeowner, whether you are just starting out, working, whether you are at university, whether you are a business owner, it is not a good situation, and the conservative party, the governing party, are not looking after the people of this country. they are in disrepair. there is fraud, there is corruption, there is bad behaviour. it isjust appalling, and every day i feel that way and i think, what on earth is going on? and i cannot be a part of this. cheering what was that?! �* ~ cheering whatwasthat?! �* ~ ., ~' what was that?! i'd like to think that was someone _ what was that?! i'd like to think that was someone clapping - what was that?! i'd like to think that was someone clapping me! | what was that?! i'd like to think - that was someone clapping me! no, it was perfectly — that was someone clapping me! no, it was perfectly timed! _ that was someone clapping me! no, it was perfectly timed! we _ that was someone clapping me! no, it was perfectly timed! we were - that was someone clapping me! no, it was perfectly timed! we were looking at footage, if you are watching on the tv, of rishi sunak arriving in uxbridge, going into a cafe and being applauded by local workers and supporters, but it could not have been better timed for what you were saying. a wonderful speech, many people would say. do you yearn for

borisjohnson?— boris johnson? absolutely not! i mean, absolutely _ boris johnson? absolutely not! i mean, absolutely not! _ boris johnson? absolutely not! i mean, absolutely not! i- boris johnson? absolutely not! i mean, absolutely not! i mean, i boris johnson? absolutely not! i - mean, absolutely not! i mean, what an embarrassment, and someone that every time he opens his mouth, he is unable to speak the truth. we have to have a governing party with people that are honest and decent and want to do the right thing. you are a lifelong _ and want to do the right thing. you are a lifelong tory, you are going to vote labour? hang on, we have to get emma on here, a conservative councillor. emma, speak to vicky. you are a conservative councillor. emma, i�*m sure you want to tell her not to lose the faith. speak to vicky, emma. not to lose the faith. speak to vicky. emma-— vicky, emma. yes, definitely, definitely- _ vicky, emma. yes, definitely, definitely. i— vicky, emma. yes, definitely, definitely. i am _ vicky, emma. yes, definitely, definitely. i am in _ vicky, emma. yes, definitely, definitely. i am in wales. - vicky, emma. yes, definitely, definitely. i am in wales. we l vicky, emma. yes, definitely, - definitely. i am in wales. we have a labour— definitely. i am in wales. we have a labour run _ definitely. i am in wales. we have a labour run administration here, and we are _ labour run administration here, and we are suffering exactly the same problems — we are suffering exactly the same problems as in england. it really makes _ problems as in england. it really makes me — problems as in england. it really makes me feel sad that vicky feels the way— makes me feel sad that vicky feels the way she does. it's... i don't _ the way she does. it's... i don't know where we will go and how idon't know where we will go and how will— i don't know where we will go and how will we go, but with keir starmer, _ how will we go, but with keir starmer, i_ how will we go, but with keir starmer, ijust don't think he is...

without— starmer, ijust don't think he is... without policies, it's very difficult, isn't it, let's face it? they— difficult, isn't it, let's face it? they bring _ difficult, isn't it, let's face it? they bring in policies, they then change — they bring in policies, they then change them. we have seen it now with ulez— change them. we have seen it now with ulez and the green agenda. we will concentrate on making sure that we hit _ will concentrate on making sure that we hit our— will concentrate on making sure that we hit our main objectives for the next _ we hit our main objectives for the next election. we hit our main ob'ectives for the next election.— we hit our main ob'ectives for the next election._ our| next election. your pledges. our led . es, next election. your pledges. our pledges. yes- — next election. your pledges. our pledges. yes- i— next election. your pledges. our pledges, yes. i have _ next election. your pledges. our pledges, yes. i have to - next election. your pledges. our pledges, yes. i have to say, - next election. your pledges. our pledges, yes. i have to say, i i next election. your pledges. our. pledges, yes. i have to say, i don't trust the conservative _ pledges, yes. i have to say, i don't trust the conservative party, - pledges, yes. i have to say, i don't trust the conservative party, and i | trust the conservative party, and i don�*t respect their view, a lot of their views, and i cannot condone their views, and i cannot condone their behaviour, and it�*s notjust one or two people, and it�*s notjust one or two people, and it�*s notjust one or two policies, it�*s across the board. and what�*s interesting is, when i speak to my peers, my colleagues, my friends, my neighbours, most of whom were conservative voters, i am not alone in this view, and, you know, you

couldn�*t say it is just one set of society. this is across the board, as i mentioned earlier, whether you are a business owner like me or a homeowner or not, whatever age you are. it is actually affecting people, and it�*s notjust how it is affecting people, and i could go on about that forever, but it is also about that forever, but it is also about how people behave and how people want to be governed by people who know how to behave and who don�*t lie and who don�*t waste their money and don�*t commit what looks to me like fraud. the vip lanes, for example... like fraud. the vip lanes, for example- - -— like fraud. the vip lanes, for example... like fraud. the vip lanes, for examle... . , example... are you really a... this miaht be example... are you really a... this might be a — example... are you really a... this might be a trojan _ example... are you really a... this might be a trojan horse. _ example... are you really a... this might be a trojan horse. look - example... are you really a... this might be a trojan horse. look at l example... are you really a... this. might be a trojan horse. look at me in the eyes, shake my hand. promise, vicky, are you a lifelong tory voter came a yes, i have always voted conservative. i believe you. i absolutely do, ijust have to check these things! absolutely do, i 'ust have to check these things!— these things! yes. emma. _ these things! yes. emma. l- these things! yes. emma, i don't - these things! yes. i emma, i don't want

these things! yes. - emma, i don't want to say these things! yes. _ emma, i don't want to say your emma, i don�*t want to say your diatribe, it sounds derogatory, your impassioned speech so kind of anti—tory. what a turnaround for you after a lifelong life as a blue. emma, there�*s nothing you can say about slide off keir starmer and say, we will get our pledges right. do you want to look at the pledges? how is it going on the hospital waiting lists? how is it going and growing the economy?— growing the economy? hospital waitin: growing the economy? hospital waiting lists _ growing the economy? hospital waiting lists in _ growing the economy? hospital waiting lists in wales _ growing the economy? hospital waiting lists in wales are - growing the economy? hospitall waiting lists in wales are longer. under— waiting lists in wales are longer. under labour. under the waiting lists in wales are longer. under labour. underthe labour administration here. the under labour. under the labour administration here. the national debt. administration here. the national debt- yes- _ administration here. the national debt. yes. how— administration here. the national debt. yes. how is _ administration here. the national debt. yes. how is it _ administration here. the national debt. yes. how is it going - administration here. the national debt. yes. how is it going on - administration here. the national debt. yes. how is it going on the| debt. yes. how is it going on the small boats? i debt. yes. how is it going on the small boats?— small boats? i think... vicky's views aside, _ small boats? i think... vicky's views aside, i _ small boats? i think... vicky's views aside, i completely - small boats? i think... vicky's i views aside, i completely respect for keepers 's views, but we are looking — for keepers 's views, but we are looking at— for keepers 's views, but we are looking at unprecedented times. we are still— looking at unprecedented times. we are still dealing with the effects of the _ are still dealing with the effects of the pandemic. there were a lot of bailouts— of the pandemic. there were a lot of bailouts done then. that money has to be _ bailouts done then. that money has to be repaid, it has to be. obviously, putin's war has really impacted — obviously, putin's war has really

impacted the cost of living for everybody, which is no fault of the conservative government. when you look at _ conservative government. when you look at the _ conservative government. when you look at the last two or three years, and what _ look at the last two or three years, and what the conservative government have had _ and what the conservative government have had to _ and what the conservative government have had to manage aside from everything else, it is unprecedented. | everything else, it is unprecedented. everything else, it is unrecedented. ., ., unprecedented. i can hear hollering. i can hear the _ unprecedented. i can hear hollering. i can hear the gnashing _ unprecedented. i can hear hollering. i can hear the gnashing of _ unprecedented. i can hear hollering. i can hear the gnashing of teeth, - i can hear the gnashing of teeth, and wailing, and we will come to that. and it is going to be your good self, andy, in a minute, in sherburn in dorset, and alistair in frome. but i think we can go to our correspondentjonathan blake in correspondent jonathan blake in somerset correspondentjonathan blake in somerset and frome. good morning, jonathan. pick it up. morning nicky. here in the centre of rome, the sun is shining, and jaime, the liberal democrats are gathering with big smiles on their faces, giddy after another huge victory for them in this vast rural constituency in somerset. —— in the centre of

frome. the conservatives have held that with a healthy, almost 20,000 vote majority, but that disappeared overnight when the lib dems candidate sarah dyke romped home. they were so confident of winning back a seat that the lib dems held between 1997—2015, for some time, that they declared victory barely an hour or so after the votes began being counted yesterday evening, well before midnight. so it is another by—election victory for the liberal democrats in this part of the world. they won tiverton and honiton just about a year ago in devon, and it takes to four the number of seats the lib dems have taken off the conservatives during this parliament. they are spectacularly pleased with the result last night, and they argue it shows that the party is firmly back in a part of the world where they used to have something of a very solid support base. the south—west of england was a heartland for the

lib dems, and they hope the victory here for them last night shows that they are on the way at least two retrieving many more of those seats. and as i mentioned earlier on, an acknowledgement by the winning candidate of tactical voting and thanking those who have traditionally voted for other parties for landing the lib dems their vote. parties for landing the lib dems theirvote. one parties for landing the lib dems their vote. one wonders how large tactical voting will loom in the general election for those people who are determined to get the conservatives out. i who are determined to get the conservatives out.— who are determined to get the conservatives out. i think we are auoin to conservatives out. i think we are going to hear — conservatives out. i think we are going to hear a _ conservatives out. i think we are going to hear a lot _ conservatives out. i think we are going to hear a lot more - conservatives out. i think we are going to hear a lot more of- conservatives out. i think we are going to hear a lot more of that, j going to hear a lot more of that, certainly, as you would expect from the lib dems between now and the next general election, which has to be held before the end of next year, and it has been central to their argument ever since they started talking about the blue wall of conservative seats in the south east, largely, of england, but also in places like this, like somerset in places like this, like somerset in the south—west. they argue the

only way to give the conservatives out of offices for the lib dems to win seats in areas like this where labour don�*t have much of a support base at all and really can�*t learn. —— really can�*t win. they paint these races is a two horse race between the lib dems and conservatives, and at times, that does involve large amounts of people switching allegiances from one party to the other, as you put it, tactical voting, and i�*m sure we will see that in play in many areas on the ground in the run—up to the next election, and it may well shape the election campaign as a whole to a large degree. as you can see behind me if you are watching, there is a couple of dozen lib dems activists gathering now. their famous orange diamond placards, claiming that the party is winning here, and they are getting ready for what will be another eye—catching photo opportunity or stunt, if i can put it like that, which the party

has made something of a fine art in recent years, winning these by—election results, sending a message they want to do to the conservatives and electorate as a whole that it is time for them to leave office. as we know, by—elections are one thing, a general election, quite a different matter. ain�*t that the truth? thank you much indeed. alistair and froom, steve in derby, and andean sherborne in dorset. at last, and the! yes, i was wondering whether we would run out of time espec apologies for the noise in the background you can hear, the tree cutters. the trees are coming down like the tory party, nicky. where are the tree hugger is when you want them?! where are the tree hugger is when you want them? !_ where are the tree hugger is when you want them?! anyway, carry on. that's for sure. _ you want them?! anyway, carry on. that's for sure. one _ you want them?! anyway, carry on. that's for sure. one thing _ you want them?! anyway, carry on. that's for sure. one thing i - you want them?! anyway, carry on. that's for sure. one thing i wanted | that�*s for sure. one thing i wanted to mention quickly is that fuel prices are coming down for diesel and petrol. i drove an electric car for a0 miles the other day, by the way, and the prices have been put on twice this year. for a0 miles, at no

cost £9. so if they want to encourage us to drive electric cars, someone should do something about these high prices by the supermarkets about the electric charges, little�*s in particular. that aside, when the candidate was being interviewed by your guidejust now, he did not mention anything about national issues. talking about proportional representation, that�*s where i would like to go as far as voting is concerned, because where i live, i live in dorset where you put a monkey in a blue suit and they would vote for it, and a chap you would vote for it, and a chap you would know who i also know called billy bragg, he writes tactically every time, same as i do to try and remove the tories from dorset, which, i mean, the clownjohnson can come down here and he will still get in, nicky. come down here and he will still get in, nic . . ~' ,. ~'

come down here and he will still get in, nic . . ~" , in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bran, in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bragg. that _ in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bragg. that great _ in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bragg, that great line, _ in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bragg, that great line, i - in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bragg, that great line, i had - in, nicky. thank you. i think billy bragg, that great line, i had an l bragg, that great line, i had an uncle that once played for red star belgrade. what a songwriter! anyway, stewart in leeds, quick one. good morning, nicky.- stewart in leeds, quick one. good morning, nicky. when you go, stuart, good morning, nicky. when you go, stuart. fire — good morning, nicky. when you go, stuart, fire away. _ good morning, nicky. when you go, stuart, fire away. i've _ good morning, nicky. when you go, stuart, fire away. i've been - good morning, nicky. when you go, stuart, fire away. i've been an - stuart, fire away. i've been an active canvasser _ stuart, fire away. i've been an active canvasser for _ stuart, fire away. i've been an active canvasser for labour i stuart, fire away. i've been an active canvasser for labour in | stuart, fire away. i've been an i active canvasser for labour in the selby— active canvasser for labour in the selby constituency for the last week, — selby constituency for the last week, and the things i saw were beyond — week, and the things i saw were beyond belief in the last 50 years of my— beyond belief in the last 50 years of my political experience. i've never — of my political experience. i've never seen people as hostile to a government as this, and the curious thing _ government as this, and the curious thing was, _ government as this, and the curious thing was, in— government as this, and the curious thing was, in some of the really well off— thing was, in some of the really well off areas that we can best, the opposition— well off areas that we can best, the opposition to the government appeared to be stronger than in... you know. — appeared to be stronger than in... you know, people in other areas. it is a really— you know, people in other areas. it is a really strange demographic, but it was— is a really strange demographic, but it was definitely there. but the thing _ it was definitely there. but the thing that i would really like to comment on is the fact that the tories _ comment on is the fact that the tories acted cowardly in this seat. you never— tories acted cowardly in this seat. you never saw a canvasser. you didn't— you never saw a canvasser. you

didn't see — you never saw a canvasser. you didn't see any evidence that there was a _ didn't see any evidence that there was a campaign on at all. i bumped into one _ was a campaign on at all. i bumped into one canvasser during the course of last— into one canvasser during the course of last week— into one canvasser during the course of last week accidentally who said she was— of last week accidentally who said she was from the tories. she was delivering — she was from the tories. she was delivering things in plain envelopes stop i_ delivering things in plain envelopes stop i don't know what the purpose of that _ stop i don't know what the purpose of that was — stop i don't know what the purpose of that was. and yesterday when we were out _ of that was. and yesterday when we were out door knocking in tadcaster, ithink— were out door knocking in tadcaster, i think we _ were out door knocking in tadcaster, i think we saw two people doorknocking for the tories, but there _ doorknocking for the tories, but there was— doorknocking for the tories, but there was no evidence who they were. the third _ there was no evidence who they were. the third of— there was no evidence who they were. the third of young people who came to support _ the third of young people who came to support labour yesterday, it was like being _ to support labour yesterday, it was like being in the durham gala, so many— like being in the durham gala, so many people had come down from the northeast! _ many people had come down from the northeast! but the overall feeling was, the — northeast! but the overall feeling was, the tories acted cowardly in this by—election. they didn't show their— this by—election. they didn't show their faces — this by—election. they didn't show their faces. theyjust relied on .lib their faces. theyjust relied on glib statements from ministers on tv and hope _ glib statements from ministers on tv and hope for the best, and they actually— and hope for the best, and they actually got what they deserve, because — actually got what they deserve, because the people of that constituency, as where i live in leeds— constituency, as where i live in leeds east, ijust got this overall feeling _ leeds east, ijust got this overall feeling of— leeds east, ijust got this overall feeling of hopelessness with this government in charge. i saw it with

my own _ government in charge. i saw it with my own eyes, there it was. when thank— my own eyes, there it was. when thank you — my own eyes, there it was. when thank you very much indeed. thank you. _ thank you very much indeed. thank you. sir~ _ thank you very much indeed. thank you. sir~ as — thank you very much indeed. thank you, sir. as rare as the site of the yeti. _ you, sir. as rare as the site of the yeti. says — you, sir. as rare as the site of the yeti. say— yeti, says stuart in leeds. and steve, yeti, says stuart in leeds. and steve. fire _ yeti, says stuart in leeds. and steve, fire away. _ yeti, says stuart in leeds. and steve, fire away. good - yeti, says stuart in leeds. and l steve, fire away. good morning. yeti, says stuart in leeds. and - steve, fire away. good morning. hi, aood steve, fire away. good morning. h! , good morning. ijust thought it was quite remarkable and said a good deal about the state of the conservative party when a huge swing to labour vote are young, 25—year—old un—tried and tested young man, just fresh from university, effectively. now that is not saying anything negative about mr mather. i don�*t doubt his credentials. i�*m sure he will have a huge future ahead of him, and well done to him. tbs, huge future ahead of him, and well done to him-— done to him. a lot of the guys in parliament _ done to him. a lot of the guys in parliament have _ done to him. a lot of the guys in parliament have got _ done to him. a lot of the guys in parliament have got huge - done to him. a lot of the guys in | parliament have got huge futures behind them, you know? welcome

indeed! they _ behind them, you know? welcome indeed! they were _ behind them, you know? welcome indeed! they were in _ behind them, you know? welcome indeed! they were in the _ behind them, you know? welcome indeed! they were in the future i indeed! they were in the future once. indeed! they were in the future once- unio _ indeed! they were in the future once- unio l — indeed! they were in the future once. uniq ijust— indeed! they were in the future once. uniq i just think - indeed! they were in the future once. uniq i just think it - indeed! they were in the future once. uniq i just think it was i indeed! they were in the future once. uniq i just think it was a | indeed! they were in the future i once. uniq ijust think it was a big gamble for the people of selby to say, we would rather have a young 25—year—old and a conservative. after such a high majority last time. —— van a conservative. but time. -- van a conservative. but they were _ time. —— van a conservative. but they were thinking about the bigger picture, were they not give a about what has happened in the last 13 years and what they want going ahead. ~ ., ahead. indeed. ithink the labour pa has ahead. indeed. ithink the labour party has been — ahead. indeed. ithink the labour party has been punished - ahead. indeed. ithink the labour party has been punished over - ahead. indeed. ithink the labour party has been punished over the last week, ten days, which has not done anybody any favours. i think especially in uxbridge, and i think a big part of that was the child benefit issue. i wish keir starmer had just said, look, it is something we want to do... ~ . . look, it is something we want to do... ~ . , , look, it is something we want to do... . . , , ., do... well, that is interesting, and that addresses _ do... well, that is interesting, and that addresses the _ do... well, that is interesting, and that addresses the hold _ do... well, that is interesting, and that addresses the hold steady - do... well, that is interesting, and that addresses the hold steady as l that addresses the hold steady as you go policy. listen, coverage

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this is bbc news. welcome to westminster, where the conservative party has two fewer mp5 today after the tories suffered two by—election defeats, losing safe seats to labour and the liberal democrats. labour overturned a majority of more than 20,000 votes in the north yorkshire seat of selby and ainsty. the lib dems won somerton and frome in somerset, overturning and 19,000 vote majority. but the tories did hold on to borisjohnson�*s for constituency of uxbridge and south ruislip in west london, winning by just a95 votes. we will be live on each of those constituencies in a moment. first, here is our political correspondent alex forsyth on a night of by—election drama. i hereby declare that

kier mather is duly elected. cheering. the jubilation was obvious. in the early hours of this morning, this was the moment labour overturned a conservative majority of more than 20,000 to win in selby and ainsty, something the party has never done before. the people of selby and ainsty have sent a clear message. for too long, conservatives up here and in westminster have failed us. and, today, that changes. it�*s time for a fresh start. earlier, the lib dems were celebrating in somerton and frome. another huge victory for them in a seat that had been conservative. their candidate saying it showed her party was back in the west country. lifelong conservative voters have today voted liberal democrat for the first time. thank you for putting your trust in me to deliver for you. i will not let you down.

but look at this, in the west london seat of uxbridge in south ruislip, it went down to the wire. votes had to be re—counted before it was announced the conservatives had clung on. and i hereby declare that the said steve tuckwell is duly elected. cheering. perhaps a surprise for some in boris johnson�*s former seat. the tories put their victory down to their campaign against the labour mayor of london�*s plan to expand the ultra low emission zone, where drivers are charged if vehicles don�*t meet certain standards. sadiq khan has lost to labour this election in his... cheering. and we know that it was his damaging and costly ulez policy that lost them this election. so now time for the parties and pundits to analyse what these results say about the big political picture.

yes, the conservatives managed to stem the outgoing tide from which they are seemingly suffering in uxbridge, but it seems to me there is little gainsaying the fact that the tide is still a long way out for the conservatives and they still have an awful long way to go before they look as though they might have a chance of being able to retain power. the campaigns ahead of these by—elections were hard—fought. the results give each party a victory, but leave some big questions, too, about who is really on the path to power ahead of the next general election. alex forsyth, bbc news. rishi sunak has been visiting the constituency of uxbridge and south ruislip this morning — after the conservative victory there. he was interviewed by our political correspondent nick eardley — and here�*s what he had to say. prime minister, ulez has helped you win here, but in other parts of the country where you did very well in 2019, you�*ve been absolutely thumped. do the results from last night not

show us that the country isn�*t buying your message and you still have a mountain to climb? look, westminster�*s been acting like the next election�*s a done deal. labour�*s been acting like it�*s a done deal. the people of uxbridge have just told all of them that it�*s not. now, no one expected us to win here, but steve�*s victory demonstrates that when confronted with the reality of the labour party, when there�*s an actual choice on a matter of substance at stake, people vote conservative. well, the new conservative mp for uxbridge and south ruislip — that�*s boris johnson�*s former seat — is steve tuckwell. he�*s also been talking to nick eardley. was this all down to ulez? well, as you know, i've been campaigning forjust over five weeks now. i've hit every pavement slab and knocked on thousands of doors. the people of this constituency made this by—election a referendum on ulez.

they were telling me loud and clear that ulez was not welcome here, they didn't want it, it was going to devastate businesses and cost families £4,500 a year to go— about their daily routine. it�*s interesting, because ulez was originally a concept of the former mp for here when he was london mayor, borisjohnson. well, the decision to push ulez into outer london much that of sadiq khan, the london mayor. were you telling borisjohnson when he was an mp here and you were a councillor that he was wrong to come up with ulez in the first place? pushing ulez into outer london was not borisjohnson's decision. so holding the london mayor to account by winning this by—election was a clear message from the people of this constituency that they don't want ulez, they don't need it, and that message now has to be heard. so let�*s hear from the by—election constitutencies with our correspondents — chi chi uzundu in ruislip, david wallace lockhart in selby

and jonathan blake in frome. chi chi, labour have never won the seat of uxbridge and south ruislip. steve tuckwell were saying it was all about ulez— is that the case? latte all about ulez- is that the case? we have all about ulez— is that the case? , have been speaking to people who have been speaking to people who have been speaking to people who have been beeping their horns in congratulating steve when he was here outside this this cafe this morning. they are a twofold group. they are basically saying he is a local boy and they are happy that if they contact him, he responds quickly. but the ulez issue, the ultra low emission zone issue, is an issue for a lot of people. we spoke to a mum earlier who said her son sold his van to try and mitigate the payment of the ulez, but it cost him £23,000 to buy a new one, and that is the problem that people are citing time and time again as they congratulated steve tuckwell. that was the issue in which they decided to vote for him. the vote margin was

incredibly small. it was a95 votes and it had to be recanted, but steve tuckwell says he is assured that his pounding of the streets, his banging on the doors in this area, him being a local boy and also campaigning against the ultralow emission zone tax is what made him win this election. �* tax is what made him win this election. . ., ., election. and although the conservative _ election. and although the conservative candidate - election. and although the l conservative candidate over election. and although the - conservative candidate over there won, albeit by less than 500 votes, there was a significant swing towards labour, some 6%, wasn�*t there? towards labour, some 6%, wasn't there? . . . towards labour, some 6%, wasn't there? , , , ., there? yes, but still a disappointment - there? yes, but still a disappointment for i there? yes, but still a| disappointment for the there? yes, but still a - disappointment for the labour there? yes, but still a _ disappointment for the labour camp —— labour camp because the mood music before was that labour are going to sweep all three by—elections. but they couldn�*t get that push, and it is down to sadiq khan wanting to extend the ultralow emission zone into this area. one woman told us she felt it was

penalising those who couldn�*t afford to make a change to upgrade their vehicles or to even afford to go about their daily business. that was why she decided to stand against labour. ., ,., ., , why she decided to stand against labour. ., ., , , , labour. the labour party deputy leader angela — labour. the labour party deputy leader angela rayner _ labour. the labour party deputy leader angela rayner has - labour. the labour party deputy leader angela rayner has been i labour. the labour party deputy i leader angela rayner has been on labour. the labour party deputy - leader angela rayner has been on the airwaves today giving interviews, and she said this is what happens when you don�*t listen to the voters. a direct criticism of london�*s mayor sadiq khan, but she did also blame the government for saying there wasn�*t enough money in the pot to help those who wanted to swap out those vehicles. and that is down to the government.— those vehicles. and that is down to the government. indeed. there is a lot of argument _ the government. indeed. there is a lot of argument and _ the government. indeed. there is a lot of argument and criticism - the government. indeed. there is a lot of argument and criticism of- the government. indeed. there is a lot of argument and criticism of the j lot of argument and criticism of the government�*s stance on climate change. earlier in rishi sunak�*s premiership, he was focused on climate change and now that seems to have quietened down. sadiq khan will argue that the ultra low emission zone is to help london�*s air get

cleaner, to help those who live on main roads who are inhaling toxic air have a better life. but on the other hand, steve tuckwell saying thatis other hand, steve tuckwell saying that is a tax on poor people. they can�*t go about their daily business and it penalises them. they can�*t do theirjobs and it will cost them more in the long run. it brings back into focus the issue of climate change. how do you get clean air without it costing everyone at source? its. without it costing everyone at source? �* . . . ~ source? a huge issue. chi chi, thank ou. let's source? a huge issue. chi chi, thank you- let's go — source? a huge issue. chi chi, thank you- let's go to _ source? a huge issue. chi chi, thank you. let's go to david _ source? a huge issue. chi chi, thank you. let's go to david wallace - you. let�*s go to david wallace lockhart in selby. a huge win for labour at their second—biggest by—election swing ever, overturned a 19,000 seat majority. is the mood in the labour party like? thea;r 19,000 seat majority. is the mood in the labour party like?— the labour party like? they are

'ubilant. the labour party like? they are jubilant. this— the labour party like? they are jubilant. this is _ the labour party like? they are jubilant. this is a _ the labour party like? they are jubilant. this is a seat - the labour party like? they are jubilant. this is a seat that - the labour party like? they are jubilant. this is a seat that has| jubilant. this is a seat that has been conservative here in selby and ainsty since 2010. the conservative majority has grown to the point that they were going into this by—election with a cushion which has been overturned and then some by the labour party, who now have a majority of over a000 votes here. if you are the prime minister, you are probably looking at this result, bearing in mind his constituency is just at the reading in north yorkshire, you might be hoping —— his constituency isjust yorkshire, you might be hoping —— his constituency is just up the road in north yorkshire. you might be hoping there are local factors here in that the local mp nigel adams stood down amidst a disagreement about whether or not he would be taking up a position in the house of lords. some conservatives think that may have been a local factor here that meant people were willing to give the conservatives a kicking and therefore went to labour for this

election. but coming up often were issues like the cost of living, local transport, the nhs and getting a doctor�*s appointment. perhaps those are topics that can translate into many seats across the country, and that will be making labour feel upbeat and the conservatives perhaps concerned about how things have gone here. when it comes to labour, if they want to win a general election, this is a type of seat that is very low down their target list. if they were to be winning seats like this, that would suggest they would be well on track to get into government. but by—elections are by—elections. they can be strange beasts and sometimes it is dangerous to read too much into them. but of course, the candidate here for labour, keir mather, will be going to the house of commons. he will be the youngest mp in the house of commons at 25 years old. tbs, the youngest mp in the house of commons at 25 years old.- the youngest mp in the house of commons at 25 years old. a few weeks ato the commons at 25 years old. a few weeks ago the local—

commons at 25 years old. a few weeks ago the local paper _ commons at 25 years old. a few weeks ago the local paper over _ commons at 25 years old. a few weeks ago the local paper over there - ago the local paper over there criticised the conservative party for running a low level campaign and not putting much effort into it. was that the feeling, that they didn�*t really fight for this seat? that the feeling, that they didn't really fight for this seat?- really fight for this seat? well, the prime _ really fight for this seat? well, the prime minister _ really fight for this seat? well, the prime minister did - really fight for this seat? well, the prime minister did make i really fight for this seat? well, | the prime minister did make an appearance here. the conservatives would say they were giving this by—election as much as they could. but it was obvious that the labour party were throwing everything at this. we had visits from sir keir starmer, someone we may see here later today. we had multiple shadow cabinet ministers coming here and knocking doors. there was a big labour ground operation which seems to have paid dividends. of course, it is not far from the prime minister�*s own patch in richmond up the road, so it is something he will be keeping an eye on. although it has gone to the labour party at this by—election, it is the sort of seat

to the conservatives will be hoping to the conservatives will be hoping to retake at a general election. but labour will be feeling very encouraged. before the 2010 election, this seat did have slightly different boundaries. but it was labour when labour were in government, so perhaps it is a sign that this seat turning red could speu that this seat turning red could spell a positive message in the future for labour. fits spell a positive message in the future for labour.— future for labour. as you were sa int , future for labour. as you were saying, by-elections _ future for labour. as you were saying, by-elections are - future for labour. as you were saying, by-elections are not i saying, by—elections are not reflective necessarily of how a general election would play out, and we will talk about that shortly. but in terms of that win, what are people saying to you about why they voted? did they see this as an opportunity to give the conservative government a kicking, or was it a positive vote for the labour candidate?— positive vote for the labour candidate? , , ., candidate? this is something we have heard about labour _ candidate? this is something we have heard about labour a _ candidate? this is something we have heard about labour a lot, _ candidate? this is something we have heard about labour a lot, that - candidate? this is something we have heard about labour a lot, that they i heard about labour a lot, that they seem to be beneficiaries of the fact that people are perhaps unhappy with

the conservative government, rather than particularly enthusiastic about the labour party and sir keir starmer�*s leadership. what was interesting in selby and ainsty is that there do seem to be issues coming up here which, from the shetland islands to cornwall, are similar issues that people care about across the country, and that is questions about inflation, how people are paying their mortgage, problems with the national health service not meeting expectations at the moment and concerns around public transport. those were not issues particular to this corner of north yorkshire, there are plenty of places that would be feeling similarly. but traditionally, by—elections can be that opportunity for people to give the government a bit of a kicking at a time when they are not happy with the situation. sometimes when general elections

come, things look different when people see it in the context of the whole nation going to the polls. the conservatives were saying at the polls chat last night that it was difficult to be a governing party of 13 years and hold on to seats like this in by—elections, but that shouldn�*t obscure the fact that there was a huge majority here for there was a huge majority here for the conservatives of over 20,000. it takes a lot to reverse that majority and return a labour mp in this part of the country, and that was what labour did. of the country, and that was what labourdid. it of the country, and that was what labour did. it is not a good result for the conservatives.— labour did. it is not a good result for the conservatives. david wallace lockhart, thanks. _ for the conservatives. david wallace lockhart, thanks. let's _ for the conservatives. david wallace lockhart, thanks. let's go _ for the conservatives. david wallace lockhart, thanks. let's go to - lockhart, thanks. let�*s go to somerton and frome, wherejonathan blake has been following developments. a huge win for the liberal democrats. the leader of the liberal democrats. the leader of the liberal democratic party�*s ed davey said this shows they are firmly back in the west country. tbs,

said this shows they are firmly back in the west country.— in the west country. a big win for the liberal _ in the west country. a big win for the liberal democrats _ in the west country. a big win for the liberal democrats here - in the west country. a big win for. the liberal democrats here overnight in somerton and frome, overturning a 19,000 vote majority that the conservatives had held since 2015 and installing a new lib dem mp, sarah dyke. as you can see behind me, the lib dem party faithful gathered, ready for their leader �*s gathered, ready for their leader �*5 ed davey, who will be making a speech here with another no doubt eye—catching photo opportunity with the lib dems, which they hope will send a message beyond this part of the west country to the uk as a whole that it shows that they in many places and other party who can unseat conservative mp5. and coming general election, that will be crucial to their message —— come a general election. we have come to expect this sort of win from the lib dems in this sort of seat where it is often a two—horse race between them and the tories. this is the fourth the party has achieved during this parliament. as you say, they

want to send a message that it shows they are back in the south—west of england, an area where they historically used to hold a lot of seats and had a significant support base. that was all but wiped out in 2015, and they will be boosted by this result overnight. but as we have been saying, a by—election is one thing, a general election is something else.— one thing, a general election is something else. some analysts are sa int something else. some analysts are sa in: a something else. some analysts are saying a lot — something else. some analysts are saying a lot of _ something else. some analysts are saying a lot of tactical— something else. some analysts are saying a lot of tactical voting - something else. some analysts are saying a lot of tactical voting went| saying a lot of tactical voting went on. explain what that is and whether it had an impact? fits on. explain what that is and whether it had an impact? $5 i on. explain what that is and whether it had an impact?— it had an impact? as i say, this was seen as a two-horse _ it had an impact? as i say, this was seen as a two-horse race _ it had an impact? as i say, this was seen as a two-horse race betweenl it had an impact? as i say, this was i seen as a two-horse race between the seen as a two—horse race between the conservatives and the liberal democrats. labour didn�*t mount much of an effective, full throated campaign in this seat because they knew it would either be held by the tories or go to the lib dems. when we talk about tactical voting, that may mean labour supporters lending their vote to the lib dems to achieve their ultimate aim of getting rid of the conservative mp. that happens in seats like this and

seats across the country. but the lib dems will hope this shows that they are on the way to reviving the historic support they have had in this part of the world. they are expecting to see paddy ashdown�*s widow jane ashdown back here this morning looking back on his time in charge of the party, when they also picked up seats during by—elections in the 19905 and went on to be a significant presence at westminster. that is what they hope, whether it will come to pass it something else, but there are a lot of smiles on the lib dem party faithfuls�* faces as they celebrate that victory. lib dem party faithfuls' faces as they celebrate that victory. when it comes to a — they celebrate that victory. when it comes to a general _ they celebrate that victory. when it comes to a general election, - they celebrate that victory. when it comes to a general election, are i comes to a general election, are they going to be able to put the massive backing that they did for this by—election in? the liberal democrats were all over this. so ed davey went down six times. they will not be able to replicate that when it comes to campaigning in a general

election, are they?— election, are they? that's right, the are election, are they? that's right, they are smaller _ election, are they? that's right, they are smaller party _ election, are they? that's right, they are smaller party and - election, are they? that's right, they are smaller party and they| they are smaller party and they don�*t the resources that the labour party and conservatives do, so they can�*t knock on thousands of doors day after day like they did in somerton and frome. they will have to concentrate their efforts in certain areas. there are also questions about this sort of success being replicated in seats across the uk for the lib dems given that nationally in the polls, they are onlyjust nationally in the polls, they are only just about into nationally in the polls, they are onlyjust about into double figures. so while they might have pockets of support in some areas, whether they will be able to increase their share in westminster at the next general election in a meaningful way, up to the 30 mp5 that they hope to have in parliament after the next election, is another question. but as far as they are concerned here, that is one for another day as they celebrate their victory. fits for another day as they celebrate their victory-—

for another day as they celebrate their victory. as you said, we will be hearing _ their victory. as you said, we will be hearing from _ their victory. as you said, we will be hearing from sir— their victory. as you said, we will be hearing from sir ed _ their victory. as you said, we will be hearing from sir ed davey - be hearing from sir ed davey shortly, with no doubt some interesting stunt. he does like those and we will be back there when that happens. let�*s get more general election now. our political correspondent lone wells is here. tell us about your assessment of the results, certainly not the drubbing that many conservatives feared? yes. that many conservatives feared? yes, we shouldn't — that many conservatives feared? yes, we shouldn't be _ that many conservatives feared? yes, we shouldn't be in _ that many conservatives feared? yes, we shouldn't be in any _ that many conservatives feared? is: we shouldn't be in any doubt that we shouldn�*t be in any doubt that this was a bad night for the conservatives, but not as bad as they had feared. they are expected to lose all three. clearly, the loss in selby and ainsty is a big defeat for the conservatives, the biggest labour swing since after the war, so this is a significant win for the labour party. that will be making the conservatives nervous. similarly, the liberal democrat win in somerton will also make tory mp5

in somerton will also make tory mp5 in the south—west nervous. that also showed how much tactical voting could make conservative losses at a future election possibly even worse. there are questions for labour, particularly because of the result in uxbridge. the conservatives and labour are attributing that loss to ulez, a very local issue. but having said that, there are questions some in the labour party are asking themselves about why it was that labour�*s offering more generally was enough to override a local issue. that is a question they will need to have to come up for answers for before a future general election. but this is a disappointing day for the conservatives. rishi sunak in particular will be thinking about how the cost of living has played on voters�* mines in all three seats. they are different parts of the

country. at the moment, we do have inflation and that high, or issues that are playing on voters minds at the moment and these are the kind of things that people care about. rishi sunak was quick _ things that people care about. rishi sunak was quick out of the traps this morning, heading to axbridge to congratulate the candidate, steve tuckwell, who won. —— in uxbridge. he said this was down to ulez, the new mp. he didn�*t mention the prime minister. new mp. he didn't mention the prime minister. . �* new mp. he didn't mention the prime minister. , �* ., , minister. yes, he didn't attribute his success _ minister. yes, he didn't attribute his success to _ minister. yes, he didn't attribute his success to the _ minister. yes, he didn't attribute his success to the conservatives. j his success to the conservatives. the absence of the prime minister in that campaign has been notable. and even the lack of the conservative brand in the literature. one senior conservative told me earlier that cchq and the conservative campaign generally had made a bad situation worse. there is a fear that the

campaign itself didn�*t do much to make up for what was looking like a bad national picture for the conservatives in the polls at the moment. but as you say, there is an issue for rishi sunak. why is it that he didn�*t feel his brand, promises and pledges were enough to convince voters and instead, it is being attribute to the local issue of ulez? ~ . , ., ., ~ being attribute to the local issue of ulez? ~ . y., ., ~ ., being attribute to the local issue of ulez? ~ . .,~ ., , of ulez? what did you make of his comments — of ulez? what did you make of his comments this _ of ulez? what did you make of his comments this morning _ of ulez? what did you make of his comments this morning saying - of ulez? what did you make of his comments this morning saying it i comments this morning saying it isn�*t a done deal? there were certainly an amount of relief in his voice, but also the wedding implying that if they had lost uxbridge, would it have been a done deal —— the wording. would it have been a done deal -- the wording-— the wording. yes, he didn't sound hu:el the wording. yes, he didn't sound hugely positive. _ the wording. yes, he didn't sound hugely positive, but _ the wording. yes, he didn't sound hugely positive, but he _ the wording. yes, he didn't sound hugely positive, but he was - the wording. yes, he didn't sound. hugely positive, but he was making the case that the next election will be won on substance, going back to his five pledges to have inflation, get that down, grow the economy, stop the boats and cut waiting lists. the problem rishi sunak is facing is that all of those pledges are facing hurdles. inflation is still high, debt is high, the economy hasn�*t been growing, waiting

lists have been going up and we have still been seeing thousands of people crossing the channel on small boats. if those are the pledges rishi sunak telling voters to back him because of, those are things the conservatives will be worrying about. he has urged voters to stick with the plan, but not a huge amount of optimism in his voice. a bit of relief, but it wasn�*t the three defeats the conservatives were expecting. defeats the conservatives were exectina. ~ . defeats the conservatives were exectina. . ., ., defeats the conservatives were exectina. ~ ., ., defeats the conservatives were meeting-— defeats the conservatives were exectina. ~ . ., ., expecting. what do you make of labour's reaction? _ expecting. what do you make of labour's reaction? we _ expecting. what do you make of labour's reaction? we haven't i expecting. what do you make of- labour's reaction? we haven't heard labour�*s reaction? we haven�*t heard from keir starmer yet. the deputy leader angela rayner has been saying it has given them a lot to think about and they need to look at local issues and listen to voters.— issues and listen to voters. that's ri . ht, issues and listen to voters. that's riaht, we issues and listen to voters. that's right. we knew — issues and listen to voters. that's right, we knew this _ issues and listen to voters. that's right, we knew this was _ issues and listen to voters. that's right, we knew this was a - issues and listen to voters. that's right, we knew this was a split. issues and listen to voters. that's. right, we knew this was a split that was emerging in the labour party throughout this campaign. the labour mayor sadiq khan�*s ulez policy clearly played a big role in this campaign. angela rayner has described herself as feeling reflective about the results this morning. there will be questions for

the party about why labour�*s offering on the cost of living and other bigger national issues wasn�*t enough to override a local campaign issue like ulez. it is true that in by—elections, local elections do rear their heads more than in general elections. but this will be something the conservatives will be thinking about how to use local issues to fight local campaigns when it comes to a broader election. that is something labour will be concerned about and thinking how to boost their more general offering to the electorate too.— the electorate too. thank you for brinuain the electorate too. thank you for bringing us _ the electorate too. thank you for bringing us up — the electorate too. thank you for bringing us up to _ the electorate too. thank you for bringing us up to date. _ the electorate too. thank you for bringing us up to date. there - the electorate too. thank you forj bringing us up to date. there will be plenty more. rishi sunak has been visiting the constituency of uxbridge and south ruislip after the conservative victory. prime minister, ulez has helped you win here,

but in other parts of the country where you did very well in 2019, you�*ve been absolutely thumped. do the results from last night not show us that the country isn�*t buying your message and you still have a mountain to climb? look, westminster�*s been acting like the next election�*s a done deal. labour�*s been acting like it�*s a done deal. the people of uxbridge have just told all of them that it�*s not. now, no one expected us to win here, but steve�*s victory demonstrates that when confronted with the reality of the labour party, when there�*s an actual choice on a matter of substance at stake, people vote conservative. rishi sunak, the prime minister. we are expecting to hear from rishi sunak, the prime minister. we are expecting to hearfrom sir rishi sunak, the prime minister. we are expecting to hear from sir ed davey, who is in frome and delighted at the success they have had, overturning a 20,000 conservative seat majority. he will be talking about success. he has said that this says they are back in that local

area now. let�*s get some more analysis now from katy balls, political editor of the spectator, and ailbhe rea, presenter of the politico westminster insider podcast. what is your reaction to the results overnight? it�*s what is your reaction to the results overnitht? �* . . what is your reaction to the results overnitht? �*, ., what is your reaction to the results overnitht? fl . , what is your reaction to the results overnitht? �* , . , ., overnight? it's a bad result for the tories, overnight? it's a bad result for the tories. but — overnight? it's a bad result for the tories. but it _ overnight? it's a bad result for the tories, but it was _ overnight? it's a bad result for the tories, but it was priced _ overnight? it's a bad result for the tories, but it was priced in - overnight? it's a bad result for the tories, but it was priced in that. tories, but it was priced in that they would have a bad result, lots of talk of losing all three. so the fact that they managed to cling on to uxbridge by under 500 votes is changing the narrative. labour can�*t say it was a triple by—election loss that was predicted, so rishi has something to hide behind a little bit when it comes to dismal results in places like selby, but also a few questions for labour about what went wrong in a seat that they sounded confident about winning a week ago. ailbhe? fits confident about winning a week ago. ailbhe? . , , , , ., .,

ailbhe? as lewis is sorry, i have to sto ou ailbhe? as lewis is sorry, i have to stop you there _ ailbhe? as lewis is sorry, i have to stop you there because _ ailbhe? as lewis is sorry, i have to stop you there because sir - ailbhe? as lewis is sorry, i have to stop you there because sir ed - ailbhe? as lewis is sorry, i have to| stop you there because sir ed davey is in frome. — stop you there because sir ed davey is in frome, giving his reaction. cheering. good to see you, thank you for comint. wow! i�*m really starting to like by—elections. chesham and amersham, north shropshire and then tiverton and honiton, and now the amazing

sarah, the new mp for somerton and frome! with an 11,000 majority! my friends, what we achieved here nothing short of spectacular. and what�*s particularly exciting for me is to see the liberal democrats winning again in our old liberal heartlands in the south—west. may last year, somerset council. tiverton and honiton, where we won the historic by—election. and this may in devon, three council victories and now in somerset with our historic by—election victory. the trend was clear even before last

night, but now it is certain. the liberal democrats are back in the west country. and it�*s a real pleasure for me today to celebrate his victory with lady jane ashdown. paddy would have been so pleased and proud of our result last night. and i have spoken to a lot of people in this by—election across selby and ainsty and in the local elections this year across the country. people are angry. they are angry that while they are working hard to make ends meet, angry about trying to get a gp appointment or a dentist for their child. the conservatives are so out of touch that they have not even noticed. they are fed up of these conservative clowns in their political circus not helping people.

and that�*s why thousands of lifelong conservatives are switching to the liberal democrats. why thousands of lifelong labour voters have lent us their support to beat the conservatives. and i think it�*s why people from all backgrounds, all walks of life are turning to the liberal democrats. they see that we are listening to them and fighting for a fair dealfor them. last night, the people of somerton and frome spoke for the whole country and sent a powerful message to this appalling conservative government. ringmaster rishi is out of ideas, he is out of touch, and he is out of excuses. it is time for his shameful spectacle to end. it�*s time for a general election to end this conservative circus. it�*s time

to get these clowns out of number ten! cheering and so, we are going to do that. what you have all been waiting for. so here we go. let�*s hope it lights. five... four... three... two... one! bang! cheering applause did you like that?! brilliant! thank you for coming. how

are you came a close eye on a very well. so good to see so many of you. well done, well done. cheers! cheers! cheering more cheers! cheering thank you so much! thank you, thank you, thank you. so good to see you. well done, paul. thank you, well done. thank you, hello, hi! dorset is here too! hi, good to see you. thanks so much for coming. well done. sir ed davey there,

lighting a giant cannon with the words "get these clowns out of number ten", words "get these clowns out of numberten", leading words "get these clowns out of number ten", leading to some yellow confetti being sprayed over the crowd there. our correspondentjonathan crowd there. our correspondent jonathan blake crowd there. our correspondentjonathan blake is our correspondent jonathan blake is standing our correspondentjonathan blake is standing by watching for us. he did not disappoint, did he, jonathan? know, it was not exactly subtle, but then, we have not come to expect that from the liberal democrats. a simple message, as you say, on the cannon, which the lib dems have placed here in the centre of frome this morning with the message "get these clowns out of number ten". the fuse was lit, the glitter cannons went off. the circus themed music is still playing here. so the lib dems definitely and celebrate are removed, but as we heard from their leader sir ed davey in that stump speech just now, what he hopes leader sir ed davey in that stump speechjust now, what he hopes is that this result is a sign of a resurgence of support for the lib dems here in the south—west of england, where they used to have several parliamentary seats which were all but wiped out in 2015. they

see this as another step on the road back to prominence in this part of the uk. the by—election is one thing. the general election, of course, is a different thing entirely. i course, is a different thing entirely-— entirely. i thought it was interesting _ entirely. i thought it was interesting how - entirely. i thought it was interesting how he - entirely. i thought it was - interesting how he referenced lifelong conservative voters switching to them and also lifelong labour voters, who he said it lent us their support, and that could be really significant, because will they do that when it comes to a general election?— they do that when it comes to a general election? that's right, and that's a big — general election? that's right, and that's a big question _ general election? that's right, and that's a big question for— general election? that's right, and that's a big question for the - general election? that's right, and that's a big question for the party. | that�*s a big question for the party. they have proved their track record, winning by—elections, four of them in this parliament, another in tiverton and holliston, north shropshire, chesham and amersham as well, but they will hope to replicate that success a bit more broadly. the question is whether the party is able to do that. it is a small operation, doesn�*t have the resources that labour and the tories do. it is polling at around 10—11% nationwide. so a big questions and big challenges for the lib dems going into the next general election

after this series of by—election winds, and, yes, tactical voting definitely plays a big part in by—elections. of the ultimate aim was here for the labour party and the lib dems and others to unseat the lib dems and others to unseat the conservative mp, then you will get people switching and landing their votes to different parties to achieve that. —— lending their votes. but in terms of what decided this particular vote, speaking to activists who have been pounding the pavement and knocking on doors over the last few weeks, it seems like the last few weeks, it seems like the lack of gp services, nhs provision, and the cost of living, which have made a people�*s minds, together with, the party claims, a general sense that people are fed up with the conservatives after their 13 or so years in power. 0k, 13 or so years in power. ok, jonathan, thank you very much. let�*s return to our guests here with me on college green just outside westminster. katie

balls and ailbhe rea. you are giving us your views. tory mp5 that were worried about their majorities in what might happen, anyway, that pre—grieving has already happened, so now it�*s all about uxbridge. that is definitely a seat that labour put they could win, and within the campaign, it did not like it was going so well. one of my colleagues reported in the last few days that they began the campaign with one regional director overseeing the campaign and have three by the end, because it was going so badly. and already, this morning, the blame game has begun on the labour party. so interesting that although labour has a big polling lead, they are still farfrom has a big polling lead, they are still far from a well oiled machine and it is still possible for them to have some mishaps. let�*s talk about this issue, the expansion of the ultra low emission zone into these areas outside central london. the candidate distanced himself from the policy and said they needed to spend more

time thinking about it and planning it, but it is london mayor sadiq khan�*s policy. labour�*s deputy leader angela rayner said this morning, we have all got a lot to think about, but it shows if you don�*t listen to the voters, this is what happens, you lose. but it is one little issue, isn�*t it? doesn�*t really translate into a general election? i really translate into a general election? ~ , election? i think definitely speaking _ election? i think definitely speaking to _ election? i think definitely speaking to labour- election? i think definitely speaking to labour voters| election? i think definitely - speaking to labour voters this morning in this place, there is a lot of frustration with sadiq khan. that is where they are pointing the blame quite early on. mp5 and constituency adviser singh sadik khan had not really picked up early enough that they could be an issue for them, they feel like they been hobbled. but i think it is interesting, that is a by—election they really should have seen coming, that boris johnson they really should have seen coming, that borisjohnson might have been in resignation watch for a while, and the whole campaign wasn�*t really ready, so the ulez issue may be specific to uxbridge, but it doesn�*t mean there is not a wider lesson. katy, labour have never won this

seat, so they knew it was an uphill challenge. the conservative candidate won by a95. it was not massive, and there was still a swing to labour. how much soul—searching do you think they need to do and how well that reflect when it comes to a general election, which could be a year away came a yes, it was the smallest of the three majorities in these by—elections, which is why i think there is a sense that labour would be able to get over the line on this. . , ., ., would be able to get over the line on this. ., , ., ., ., would be able to get over the line on this. . , ., ., ., , would be able to get over the line onthis. . ., ., , ., , on this. clearly a lot of this goes back to ten _ on this. clearly a lot of this goes back to ten micro _ on this. clearly a lot of this goes back to ten micro too, _ on this. clearly a lot of this goes back to ten micro too, but - on this. clearly a lot of this goes back to ten micro too, but i - on this. clearly a lot of this goes | back to ten micro too, but i think what _ back to ten micro too, but i think what we — back to ten micro too, but i think what we are _ back to ten micro too, but i think what we are beginning to see is the problem _ what we are beginning to see is the problem of— what we are beginning to see is the problem of moving from opposition to power. _ problem of moving from opposition to power. so _ problem of moving from opposition to power, so here, lots of figures now blaming _ power, so here, lots of figures now blaming sadik khan. he is the elected — blaming sadik khan. he is the elected labour politician who has to make _ elected labour politician who has to make difficult decisions. you saw this week— make difficult decisions. you saw this week a — make difficult decisions. you saw this week a big row for sir keir starmer— this week a big row for sir keir starmer on the benefits cap. he said he's going _ starmer on the benefits cap. he said he's going to keep it because there's— he's going to keep it because there's not enough money elsewhere. the two _ there's not enough money elsewhere. the two child policy.— the two child policy. exactly. and he said he — the two child policy. exactly. and he said he would _ the two child policy. exactly. and he said he would keep _ the two child policy. exactly. and he said he would keep it - the two child policy. exactly. and he said he would keep it despitei the two child policy. exactly. and i he said he would keep it despite he himself— he said he would keep it despite he himself and many of his shadow cabinet — himself and many of his shadow cabinet members being critical in the past. — cabinet members being critical in the past, because he doesn't think, if he enters — the past, because he doesn't think, if he enters number ten, they will be enough — if he enters number ten, they will be enough money, initially at least,

to overturn — be enough money, initially at least, to overturn it, therefore i think we're _ to overturn it, therefore i think we're starting to see almost any phase _ we're starting to see almost any phase where as labour gets closer to power _ phase where as labour gets closer to power and _ phase where as labour gets closer to power and as we see what various labour— power and as we see what various labour politicians in power do, it is more — labour politicians in power do, it is more complicated for keir starmer. _ is more complicated for keir starmer, and i think that is something they are thrashing out that is— something they are thrashing out that is going to happen. it's easy to say— that is going to happen. it's easy to say do— that is going to happen. it's easy to say do what the voters want, but harder _ to say do what the voters want, but harder when — to say do what the voters want, but harder when you are the person having — harder when you are the person having to — harder when you are the person having to make the decisions. just showin: having to make the decisions. just showing our— having to make the decisions. itst showing our views on this picture is from frome, where the leader of the liberal democrat is in a walkabout. let�*s just listen in. liberal democrat is in a walkabout. let�*sjust listen in. he is talking to the winning candidate there, sarah dyke. to the winning candidate there, sarah dyke-— to the winning candidate there, sarah l ke. �*, , , ., sarah dyke. let's 'ust listen in. no one is sarah dyke. let's 'ust listen in. no is saying — sarah dyke. let'sjust listen in. no one is saying which _ sarah dyke. let'sjust listen in. no one is saying which party - sarah dyke. let'sjust listen in. no one is saying which party got - sarah dyke. let'sjust listen in. no one is saying which party got the l one is saying which party got the biggest swing last night, the liberal democrats! absolutely. it is one of— liberal democrats! absolutely. it is one of my _ liberal democrats! absolutely. it is one of my favourite - liberal democrats! absolutely. it is one of my favourite booki it is one of my favourite book shops — shops. cheering 0k, ok, enjoying the scenes there, and that support. walking about in frome. wejust

heard where sarah dyke�*s favourite book shop is. 50 heard where sarah dyke's favourite book shop is-_ heard where sarah dyke's favourite book shop is. so now we know! i am absolutely fine! _ absolutely fine! sur _ absolutely fine! sur ed davey absolutely delighted. speaking a few moments ago about how this firmly puts them back on the map in the south—west there. it is slightly steeper and more, bully. — it is slightly steeper and more, bully, which might be a bit more tricky— bully, which might be a bit more tricky for— bully, which might be a bit more tricky for us to navigate that and a bit more _ tricky for us to navigate that and a bit more exhausting, but this is challenging for these guys, so this is one _ challenging for these guys, so this is one. . . challenging for these guys, so this is one. , , ., ., , is one. keeps her on her toes! it is notjust — is one. keeps her on her toes! it is not just the _ is one. keeps her on her toes! it is notjust the architecture, | it is notjust the architecture, it's also— it is notjust the architecture, it's also the people you find. yesi _ it's also the people you find. yes, absolutely. it's a wonderful constituency, and i'm so proud. welli _ constituency, and i'm so proud. well. big — constituency, and i'm so proud. well, big smiles all around. constituency, and i'm so proud. well, big smiles allaround. let's well, big smiles all around. let�*s talk about the lib dems. you cannot blame him, can you give a we had that little stand there with the canon, with the words "get these

clowns out of number ten". how significant is this win for the lib dems and how significant for the conservative party? the dems and how significant for the conservative party?— dems and how significant for the conservative party? the lib dems are iood at conservative party? the lib dems are good at winning _ conservative party? the lib dems are good at winning by-elections - conservative party? the lib dems are good at winning by-elections and - good at winning by—elections and this is not the first they have one in this parliament. i think it is significant in helping them build this narrative that there are certain places where... the conservatives have this narrative of the blue wall. this isn�*t exactly a blue wall seat, but they are stretching the definition as far as it will go. there is the red wall where sort of the tories and labour are battling in southern, more leafy seats. the lib dems say they are the best choice to get rid of the conservatives and this is another example of it. and as you say, with these kind of fun stunts, they are trying to knock voters over the head with that message, so it is notjust this election, but about saying, consider us, it may be we are the best challenges in your seat if you want to get rid of this government. we were talking about the fact they threw everything at this by—election, didn�*t they? the whole

party machine was down there determined to win this. but they will not be able to replicate that when it comes to a general election, to fight 30—40 when it comes to a general election, to fight 30—a0 seats they think they can win? to fight 30-40 seats they think they can win? ., ., ., ., , can win? no, and we have often seen liberal democrats _ can win? no, and we have often seen liberal democrats known _ can win? no, and we have often seen liberal democrats known for - can win? no, and we have often seen liberal democrats known for local - liberal democrats known for local elections. — liberal democrats known for local elections, as they did, and in local elections _ elections, as they did, and in local elections there is a surprise for the tories. _ elections there is a surprise for the tories, so the question is how much _ the tories, so the question is how much can— the tories, so the question is how much can replicate you a have seen so much _ much can replicate you a have seen so much being one, similar majorities in return, it looks like the lib— majorities in return, it looks like the lib dems are on to a decent showing — the lib dems are on to a decent showing at— the lib dems are on to a decent showing at the next general election, but it's about how they refine _ election, but it's about how they refine their resources, perhaps not going _ refine their resources, perhaps not going for— refine their resources, perhaps not going for so— refine their resources, perhaps not going for so many seats, focusing on the more _ going for so many seats, focusing on the more realistic ones. if they cani _ the more realistic ones. if they can. in— the more realistic ones. if they can. in the _ the more realistic ones. if they can, in the south—west, as we have seen _ can, in the south—west, as we have seen today. — can, in the south—west, as we have seen today, make some gains, that will worry— seen today, make some gains, that will worry the tories, because before — will worry the tories, because before 2015, that the dems had a big showing _ before 2015, that the dems had a big showing and it ended with david cameron. — showing and it ended with david cameron, said the lib dem resurgence in the _ cameron, said the lib dem resurgence in the south—west is very bad news for the _ in the south—west is very bad news for the tories. in the south-west is very bad news for the tories.— for the tories. being in coalition did not do _ for the tories. being in coalition did not do them _ for the tories. being in coalition did not do them any _ for the tories. being in coalition did not do them any favours, i for the tories. being in coalition i did not do them any favours, didn't did not do them any favours, didn�*t give a fair to say they were pretty much decimated after that. yes. give a fair to say they were pretty much decimated after that. yes, it was re much decimated after that. yes, it was pretty much — much decimated after that. yes, it was pretty much better _ much decimated after that. yes, it was pretty much better for - much decimated after that. yes, it was pretty much better for the - was pretty much better for the tories —

was pretty much better for the tories and the lib dems. the}r was pretty much better for the tories and the lib dems. they are certainly making _ tories and the lib dems. they are certainly making a _ tories and the lib dems. they are certainly making a resurgence. i tories and the lib dems. they are i certainly making a resurgence. how much of a comeback to think they could make. if much of a comeback to think they could make-— much of a comeback to think they could make. y., ., ., ~ ., ., could make. if you look at the local election results, _ could make. if you look at the local election results, it _ could make. if you look at the local election results, it was _ could make. if you look at the local election results, it was not - could make. if you look at the local election results, it was not clear. election results, it was not clear from _ election results, it was not clear from those _ election results, it was not clear from those that labour were on course — from those that labour were on course to — from those that labour were on course to get a majority. now the polls _ course to get a majority. now the polls have — course to get a majority. now the polls have expanded a bit to get a saying _ polls have expanded a bit to get a saying a _ polls have expanded a bit to get a saying a labour majority is coming, but i _ saying a labour majority is coming, but i think— saying a labour majority is coming, but i think whether it is propping up but i think whether it is propping up a labour government, because they fall short. _ up a labour government, because they fall short. i_ up a labour government, because they fall short, i think oxbridge does not stop— fall short, i think oxbridge does not stop in majority but will start to raise — not stop in majority but will start to raise those doubts, or helping keir starmer get legislation across the line _ keir starmer get legislation across the line if— keir starmer get legislation across the line if he is prime minister. —— beridge — the line if he is prime minister. —— beridge if— the line if he is prime minister. —— ijridge. if you look at some of the things— ijridge. if you look at some of the things labour want to do, i don't think— things labour want to do, i don't think every— things labour want to do, i don't think every labour mp will be behind it, think every labour mp will be behind it. and _ think every labour mp will be behind it, and therefore having that relationship with the lib dems, we are going — relationship with the lib dems, we are going to hear more and more about _ are going to hear more and more about i— are going to hear more and more about. ~ , are going to hear more and more about. ~' , ., ., about. i think they will have to think carefully _ about. i think they will have to think carefully about _ about. i think they will have to think carefully about how- about. i think they will have to think carefully about how to i about. i think they will have to i think carefully about how to learn lessons from the coalition and what demands they can make, if they are in that position that katie described, what they can ask for that won�*t leave them decimated after the next election, easy winds, the best way they can work together, but i also think that the things

that we see in these by—elections are, the lib dems have a little bit of a boom and bust strategy, but they are quite happy in an individual campaign to take a position that is different to the national position, so i�*m things like hs2, you actually have quite different liberal democrat positions and different seats. it is a policy and different seats. it is a policy a kind of constructive ambiguity. under nick clegg, that actually got quite difficult, because we were all in parliament together, what do you believe to reckon and it all crumbling down again. i don�*t think they have learned that lesson from they have learned that lesson from the coalition. we�*re still seeing some different policies for different policies for different mp5. different policies for different mps. . , �* . different policies for different mps. ., , �*, different policies for different mps. 2 ., ., ., mps. katy, let's look forward to what might _ mps. katy, let's look forward to what might happen _ mps. katy, let's look forward to what might happen today, - mps. katy, let's look forward to i what might happen today, before mps. katy, let's look forward to - what might happen today, before the results, and with the predictions that the tories could lose all three seats, . .. that the tories could lose all three seats,... in fact, that the tories could lose all three seats,... infact, iwant that the tories could lose all three seats,... in fact, i want to rip myself there! jonathan blake is with ed davey. we will go back to frome and jonathan. hi, jonathan.- and jonathan. hi, jonathan. hello, es, the and jonathan. hi, jonathan. hello, yes. the lib _ and jonathan. hi, jonathan. hello, yes, the lib dems _ and jonathan. hi, jonathan. hello, yes, the lib dems are _ and jonathan. hi, jonathan. hello, yes, the lib dems are celebrating | yes, the lib dems are celebrating here in the centre of frome, there

by—election when overnight, overturning the conservatives�* majority here in this seat and claiming to be back in business in the west country. i�*m pleased to say we�*re joined the west country. i�*m pleased to say we�*rejoined now the west country. i�*m pleased to say we�*re joined now by the lib the west country. i�*m pleased to say we�*rejoined now by the lib dems leader sir ed davey. what do you put this victory down to? hate leader sir ed davey. what do you put this victory down to? we campaigned reall hard, this victory down to? we campaigned really hard. and _ this victory down to? we campaigned really hard, and had _ this victory down to? we campaigned really hard, and had a _ this victory down to? we campaigned really hard, and had a fantastic - really hard, and had a fantastic candidate — really hard, and had a fantastic candidate in sarah, and we found people _ candidate in sarah, and we found people on— candidate in sarah, and we found people on the doorstep were saying they felt— people on the doorstep were saying they felt the conservatives were out of touch _ they felt the conservatives were out of touch with nationally and locally. _ of touch with nationally and locally, they felt they had been let down _ locally, they felt they had been let down by _ locally, they felt they had been let down by the previous conservative mp and that _ down by the previous conservative mp and that the conservative government wasn't _ and that the conservative government wasn't speaking up for them, and whether— wasn't speaking up for them, and whether it — wasn't speaking up for them, and whether it was the inability to get gp appointments, nhs dentist for their kids. — gp appointments, nhs dentist for their kids, whether it's the struggle _ their kids, whether it's the struggle with the cost of living, people — struggle with the cost of living, people felt it is time for a change, and they— people felt it is time for a change, and they like what the lib dems were saying. _ and they like what the lib dems were saying. and _ and they like what the lib dems were saying, and i think it's that combination, and i'm grateful to those _ combination, and i'm grateful to those labour voters who lent us their— those labour voters who lent us their support. they got behind sarah as the _ their support. they got behind sarah as the person he was able to defeat the conservatives. i think this the conservatives. ! think this sends— the conservatives. i think this sends a — the conservatives. i think this sends a very powerful message, we

are back— sends a very powerful message, we are back in — sends a very powerful message, we are back in the west country, and the lib— are back in the west country, and the lib dems are back across the west— the lib dems are back across the west country. the lib dems are back across the west country-— the lib dems are back across the west country. you are undoubtedly very confident. _ west country. you are undoubtedly very confident, claiming _ west country. you are undoubtedly very confident, claiming victory - very confident, claiming victory before midnight on this contest last night. and as you say, you claim to be back in the west country. but there is a long wait to go for you to recover at the level of support and the number of mp5 you had in this part of the uk, so is there a danger that at this point, you are overconfident, perhaps complacently micro because a by—election is one thing. as you well know, a general election is very different. hate election is very different. we certainly won't _ election is very different. we certainly won't take voters for granted _ certainly won't take voters for granted. the conservatives keep taking _ granted. the conservatives keep taking people on the west country for granted with their appalling record — for granted with their appalling record on the health service in the economy. — record on the health service in the economy, and lib dems won't do that. we will— economy, and lib dems won't do that. we will not _ economy, and lib dems won't do that. we will not be complacent at all. but there — we will not be complacent at all. but there are 15 seats in the west country. — but there are 15 seats in the west country, the majority smaller than somerton— country, the majority smaller than somerton and frome is. we have that amazing _ somerton and frome is. we have that amazing by—election victory in devon last year— amazing by—election victory in devon last year in— amazing by—election victory in devon last year in tiverton and honiton. we have — last year in tiverton and honiton. we have had great council results. so we _ we have had great council results. so we have — we have had great council results. so we have every reason to believe people _ so we have every reason to believe people across the west country, cornwall. — people across the west country, cornwall, devon, somerset, dorset,

wiltshire _ cornwall, devon, somerset, dorset, wiltshire and so on, are turning to the lib— wiltshire and so on, are turning to the lib dems as the party best placed — the lib dems as the party best placed in— the lib dems as the party best placed in this part of the country to defeat— placed in this part of the country to defeat the conservatives, and as a party— to defeat the conservatives, and as a party that— to defeat the conservatives, and as a party that speaks for them. you have said here _ a party that speaks for them. you have said here it _ a party that speaks for them. you have said here it is _ a party that speaks for them. gm, have said here it is issues like the nhs, the cost of living, getting a dentist appointment that when this for you, and so people offering you their support. when it comes to the national message, though, when the general election comes around, what is your message to the country came a what the lib dems stand for humour a what the lib dems stand for humour a same a we stand for a fair deal. people who are not getting a hearing from the conservatives, we will be on their side. when it comes to things like the environment and the awful sewage pollution in our rivers and lakes, i think people are listening to what we are seeing in all these issues, and they like what they are hearing from us, and i think that national message is getting through. when you look at the last few weeks, you have been here several times yourself. the conservatives hung on in uxbridge. labourwon

yourself. the conservatives hung on in uxbridge. labour won selby and ainsty in this trio of by—elections overnight. how soon do you want a general election and what do you think the state of the conservative party is now? and how do you best plan to capitalise on that chemical your resources are limited, aren�*t they, going into a nationwide contest? i they, going into a nationwide contest? ~' ., , ., ., contest? i think the voters want a ieneral contest? i think the voters want a general election, _ contest? i think the voters want a general election, and _ contest? i think the voters want a general election, and when - contest? i think the voters want a general election, and when you i contest? i think the voters want a l general election, and when you talk to people. — general election, and when you talk to people, they want rid of this appalling — to people, they want rid of this appalling government, and so, to reflect— appalling government, and so, to reflect their views, the liberal democrats are calling for a general election— democrats are calling for a general election as — democrats are calling for a general election as soon as possible. i think— election as soon as possible. i think the _ election as soon as possible. i think the conservatives aren't fit to govern — think the conservatives aren't fit to govern our wonderful country. they _ to govern our wonderful country. they are — to govern our wonderful country. they are deeply divided amongst themselves they cannot give proper leadership to our country. whether it was— leadership to our country. whether it was boris— leadership to our country. whether it was borisjohnson leadership to our country. whether it was boris johnson or liz truss en rishi _ it was boris johnson or liz truss en rishi sunak. — it was boris johnson or liz truss en rishi sunak, they are fighting each other. _ rishi sunak, they are fighting each other. and — rishi sunak, they are fighting each other, and it is like a political circus — other, and it is like a political circus. these are the clowns, and liberal— circus. these are the clowns, and liberal democrats say it is time to .et liberal democrats say it is time to get rid _ liberal democrats say it is time to get rid of— liberal democrats say it is time to get rid of the clowns out of number ten. �* ., ., , get rid of the clowns out of number ten. �* ., .,, ., get rid of the clowns out of number ten. �* ., ., , ., ten. and to those who say it is to be a penny _ ten. and to those who say it is to be a penny on — ten. and to those who say it is to be a penny on income _ ten. and to those who say it is to be a penny on income tax, - ten. and to those who say it is to be a penny on income tax, usedi ten. and to those who say it is to i

be a penny on income tax, used to ten. and to those who say it is to - be a penny on income tax, used to be remaining or overturning the brexit result, scrapping tuition fees, what is it now that the lib dems can set themselves apart when there is a policy? i themselves apart when there is a oli ? ~' ., themselves apart when there is a oli ? ~ ., ., policy? i think on the health service we _ policy? i think on the health service we have _ policy? i think on the health service we have great - policy? i think on the health i service we have great policies, policy? i think on the health - service we have great policies, such as our— service we have great policies, such as our policy— service we have great policies, such as our policy to make sure we had 8000 _ as our policy to make sure we had 8000 new— as our policy to make sure we had 8000 new gp so people can get a gp appointment in time. so critical for making _ appointment in time. so critical for making sure people don't end up at ass. _ making sure people don't end up at a&e, making waiting list worse. we have great — a&e, making waiting list worse. we have great policy and carers, for example — have great policy and carers, for example. one reason people aren't getting _ example. one reason people aren't getting out of hospital and discharged is because there is not the carers — discharged is because there is not the carers there. we are the only people _ the carers there. we are the only people talking about a special higher— people talking about a special higher minimum wage for carers. those _ higher minimum wage for carers. those are — higher minimum wage for carers. those are the only sorts of policies that address the crisis in our nhs. ithink— that address the crisis in our nhs. i think the — that address the crisis in our nhs. i think the other sorts of policies that only— i think the other sorts of policies that only the lib dems are talking about— that only the lib dems are talking about and — that only the lib dems are talking about and people really like. thank ou so about and people really like. thank you so much _ about and people really like. thank you so much for— about and people really like. thank you so much for your _ about and people really like. thank you so much for your time - about and people really like. thank you so much for your time this - you so much for your time this morning, sir ed davey. as you have there, the lib dems celebrating their victory here, overturning that big conservative majority and claiming to be back in the west country. there are several more seats the party has their eye on in this part of the uk, and it�*s one area they will focus their resources

between now and the general election. , ., . . between now and the general election. , ., ., ., ., , election. jonathan, thanks very much, election. jonathan, thanks very much. and _ election. jonathan, thanks very much, and good _ election. jonathan, thanks very much, and good to _ election. jonathan, thanks very much, and good to hear- election. jonathan, thanks very much, and good to hear from l election. jonathan, thanks very i much, and good to hear from sir election. jonathan, thanks very - much, and good to hear from sir ed much, and good to hearfrom sir ed davey directly. let�*s get more analysis. joining me now is professor tony travers. he�*s the director of lse london research centre. what is your take on the results? if you look at the three of them, there is no doubt that the selby and ainsty and somerton and frome ones tell us more about the national mood. there was a big shift of the kind that the lib dems are capable of delivery when the conservatives are unpopular midterm. labour doing much better than i normally do in by—elections. i think that tells us that polls are broadly right, opinion polls showing labour ahead, and some tactical voting, it would appear, both constituencies. but what uxbridge and south ruislip in london tells us is that politicians who misjudge the politics of the car risk this kind of immediate

reaction. so i think the labour party will have to think about how it balances the views of its sort of city —based voters and those who like policies like the ultra low emissions zone, and those in areas where public transport is less effective and people vote ray differently. effective and people vote ray differently-— effective and people vote ray differentl . ~ ., differently. when we spoke a few weeks a . o differently. when we spoke a few weeks ago ahead _ differently. when we spoke a few weeks ago ahead of— differently. when we spoke a few weeks ago ahead of the - differently. when we spoke a few weeks ago ahead of the uxbridgej differently. when we spoke a few - weeks ago ahead of the uxbridge and south rice lit by—election specifically, you said if they don�*t win, it is not good news for them. —— south rice lake. angela rayner, the deputy leader, has been out today saying, this shows if you don�*t listen to voters, you don�*t win. i don't listen to voters, you don't win. ~ . . don't listen to voters, you don't win. ~ , , ., win. i think she is right, and the ultra low— win. i think she is right, and the ultra low emission _ win. i think she is right, and the ultra low emission zone - win. i think she is right, and the ultra low emission zone makes| ultra low emission zone makes perfect sense in terms of reducing pollution, and the mayor is having to take quite a lot of political flak in london for doing it, but what we have learned here as we did in some of the local elections last year, that what is seen as anti—car policies can be very effective in turning voters, so what the labour party needs to learn from this is

that if you are going to introduce radical new policies, you have to make absolutely sure that the people who paid the cost are given some sort of, in this case, a scrappage scheme, a more general scrappage scheme, a more general scrappage scheme, so they don�*t feel they are going to lose out badly. but scheme, so they don't feel they are going to lose out badly.— going to lose out badly. but this is a local issue. _ going to lose out badly. but this is a local issue, and _ going to lose out badly. but this is a local issue, and the _ going to lose out badly. but this is a local issue, and the candidate i a local issue, and the candidate said, i went on this, nothing to do with the conservative party welcome he didn�*t say that, did he? when he gave his vote of thanks, he didn�*t mention the conservative party or rishi sunak. so actually, with this translate into a general election? it is very specific to this area, which is fighting the ulez expansion at a judicial review. so it is a pretty niche issue? absolutely, but that�*s why i said, i think the somerton and selby by—elections tells more about the state of national politics and the fact the conservatives are now vulnerable to the lib dems in some parts of the country into labour in others, and that�*s a sort of problem for them. others, and that�*s a sort of problem forthem. but others, and that�*s a sort of problem for them. but remember, there are a0 orso

for them. but remember, there are a0 or so constituencies in outer london and just around london, to adding authors together, their number of marginals, the conservatives will doubtless plug away at what they will see as anti—car, impractical policies, and the labour party will have to think of a way of dealing with that, natalie and uxbridge and south ruislip, but in a large number of constituencies in outer london and just inside the south—east near london. and just inside the south-east near london. �* . and just inside the south-east near london. 3 . ~ and just inside the south-east near london. �*, ., ,, ., , london. let's talk about the lib dems. london. let's talk about the lib dems- we _ london. let's talk about the lib dems- we just _ london. let's talk about the lib dems. we just heard _ london. let's talk about the lib dems. we just heard from - london. let's talk about the lib dems. we just heard from sir l london. let's talk about the lib| dems. we just heard from sir ed davey, who is understandably delighted at this huge win, overturning a 19,000 seat majority to win by 11,000 votes for his mp there. how significant is it for the lib dems. does this market a true comeback for them? it lib dems. does this market a true comeback for them?— lib dems. does this market a true comeback for them? it certainly part of a loni comeback for them? it certainly part of a long road _ comeback for them? it certainly part of a long road to _ comeback for them? it certainly part of a long road to a _ comeback for them? it certainly part of a long road to a comeback- comeback for them? it certainly part of a long road to a comeback after. of a long road to a comeback after the dismal consequences of being in the dismal consequences of being in the coalition between 2010—2015, dismal electorally, i mean, but they are step—by—step coming back, and as i said earlier, lib dems have always been very good when the conservatives are unpopular at producing these huge swings and votes. we have seen it again and

again and again. it doesn�*t mean the lib dems then necessarily do brilliantly at the next election, but i think the lesson, if you look at somerton and frome and selby and ainsty, put them together, and you can see the conservatives are facing a kind of pincer movement attack in different parts of the country, and i think that, more than uxbridge and south riesling, well worry, even though the conservatives have done much better than they were suggesting they might, they will still worry about those two results. always fascinating to get your analysis. i�*m sure we will get more from you later, but for now, thank you. rishi sunak has been visiting the constituency of uxbridge and south ruislip this morning after the conservative victory there. he was interviewed by our political correspondent nick eardley — and here�*s what he had to say. you lezz has helped you here, but another part of the country, you have absolutely been thumped. —— ulez. you still have a mountain to climb. ~ . . ulez. you still have a mountain to climb. ~ , , ., , ,

ulez. you still have a mountain to climb. ~ , , .,, , climb. westminster has been acting like they know _ climb. westminster has been acting like they know there _ climb. westminster has been acting like they know there were _ climb. westminster has been acting like they know there were new- like they know there were new election is a done deal, the labour party has been acting it is like a done deal, but the people uxbridge is all of them that it is not. no one expected us to win here, but steve�*s victory demonstrates that when confronted with the actual reality of the labour party, when there is an actual choice in a matter of substance at stake, people vote conservative. prime minister rishi sunak they�*re giving his reaction. well, times radio�*s ayesha hazarika, the former advisor to the former labour party leader ed miliband, joins us now. welcome to you. good morning. great to see you- — welcome to you. good morning. great to see you- what _ welcome to you. good morning. great to see you. what is _ welcome to you. good morning. great to see you. what is your— welcome to you. good morning. great to see you. what is your reaction - welcome to you. good morning. great to see you. what is your reaction to i to see you. what is your reaction to labour�*s win and loss last night? good and bad news. ithink labour�*s win and loss last night? good and bad news. i think it�*s important to say that the sort of exam question that was set for keir starmer was selby and ainsty. that was the one the commentators were saying it was important for him to win, and if he winds this with the

big swing, that takes the narrative away from, labour might win, they might be in a minority government are a hung parliament. if they do well, you are into the narrative where they could be on the route to a 1997 style factory, certainly a labour government. so i think keir starmer should take credit and be pleased he has passed that test with flying colours, that the 2a point swing, an incredible achievement, particularly in a conservative heartland in yorkshire. so i think they can bank that is a really good, solid win. sarah what we have learnt from uxbridge is that it became a referendum on ulez, which became a kind of referendum for labour in those outer london seats. that has become a question now, how do they navigate this

policy, particularly when sadiq khan is very keen on it. it is coming in at the end of next month, quite a lot of resistance from some labour mp5 with seats in that area, and it�*s a bigger question about those tensions between the centre of the party and some of these big mayors, who want to exercise their power. there is a judicial review into it at the moment. there is no result and that, but if it comes in, and it is a done deal, would it be an issue, and a very specific issue to london? . issue, and a very specific issue to london? , ., �* . , london? yes, i don't necessarily think ulez— london? yes, i don't necessarily think ulez is _ london? yes, i don't necessarily think ulez is going _ london? yes, i don't necessarily think ulez is going to _ london? yes, i don't necessarily think ulez is going to change i london? yes, i don't necessarily| think ulez is going to change the course of the next election. i think that�*s something the labour party will feel comfortable about. you look at the results from yesterday. the ulez thing, yes, it is a blip that could definitely affect local elections in london, mayoral elections in london, mayoral elections in london, but that will not kind of change the overall outcome of the general election. if you look at what happened in somerton, look at what happened in selby, it very much looks like all those different ends of the country, the public are sending a clear

message, they do want to change at the next election. so i think labour�*s strategists will feel quite comfortable about that. the but we just heard from the prime minister rishi sunak saying this result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, isn�*t he? it is result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, isn�*t he? it is result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, isn't he?— he is right, isn't he? it is never a done deal — result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, isn't he?— he is right, isn't he? it is never a done deal till— he is right, isn't he? it is never a done deal till the _ result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, it the |e?_ he is right, isn't he? it is never a done deal till the final _ he is right, isn't he? it is never a done deal till the final vote - he is right, isn't he? it is never a done deal till the final vote is - result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, it the final _ result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, is the final vote seer a result shows it is not a done deal. he is right, is the final vote is er a done deal till the final vote is cast, and it is important to done deal till the final vote is cast, and it is important to remember that. remember that. cast, and it is important to rememberthat. i cast, and it is important to remember that. i have seen elections cast, and it is important to rememberthat. i cast, and it is important to remember that. i have seen elections where we thought we had one, and cast, and it is important to remember that. i we a seen elections cast, and it is important to remember that. i we had an elections actually... cast, and it is important to remember that. i we had one, ictions cast, and it is important to remember that. i we had one, and 1s where we thought we had one, and actually... where we thought we had one, and actuall . . where we thought we had one, and where we thought we had one, and actuall . . where we thought we had one, and actuall ., , ., ., , actually... that is often a problem for labour. _ actuall ., , ., ., , actually... that is often a problem for labour. _ actually... that is often a problem for labour, they _ actually... that is often a problem for labour, they often _ actually... that is often a problem for labour, they often lose - actually... that is often a problem for labour, they often lose moneyj for labour, they often lose money actually... that is often a problem for labour, they _ actually... that is often a problem for labour, they often _ actually... that is often a problem for labour, they often - money j for labour, they often lose money think it is in the bag. you�*re think it is in the bag. you�*re absolutely. history tells us the absolutely. history tells us the labour party when very few times in �*times in labour party when very few times in modern british history. but you also modern british history. but you also have to look at the sort of have to look at direction of travel. you have to look at opinion poll after opinion modern british history. but you also have at look at modern british history. but you also have at opinion poll �* opinion poll, and these by—elections are look at opinion poll after opinion poll, and these by—elections are really helpful because they test out really helpful because they test out these opinion polls. this is the human beings going into the ballot poll, and these by—elections are really helpful because th is test out poll, and these by—elections are really helpful because th is the out these opinion polls. this is the human beings going into the ballot box and they are sending a clear box and signal. great to see you ayesha human beings going into the ballot box an great * 7“:fo s " , ii” human beings going into the ballot box an great to , 7“:fo s " , ii” human beings going into the ballot box an great to see a s " , ii” human beings going into the ballot box an great to see you . ~ , ii” hazarika. stay with us, for plenty human beings going into the ballot box an great to see you ayesha r” signal. great to see you ayesha hazarika. stay win for the more reaction to that win for the lib dems, labour, and one for the more reaction to that win for the lib dems, labour, and one for the

conservatives. back in a moment. conservatives. back in a the conservative party has two fewer mp5 today.