this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines and all the main news stories for you at the top of the hour, straight after this programme. hello, everybody, a very warm welcome from me, aaron has letters. the billion—dollar blastoff as more and more rockets and satellites headed to org it, just how big and the space economy become? private companies are getting a bigger slice of the pie, but can they really lay in outer space? i'm going to find out from these two. one leading investor tells me how he's trying to get out of this world returns from orbiting the earth. also from dishwashers by day two explosives at night — the big box tell my boss

tells me how you got his company flying. also on the show, i will catch up with the big boss of nasa, the former astronaut tells me how important private companies will be as the us and china hurry back to the moon and the 21st century space race. once again, big hello and warm welcome to the show. it is the final frontier, space. what lies out there can help answer many of the problems we face here on earth. a growing number of wealthy people are booking tickets just have a view of the planet from above. it all means the space economy is really taking off. by space economy is really taking off. by 2040, that will grow to $1 trillion. the

by 20110, that will grow to $1 trillion. the european space agency says more than 50,000 satellites have been launched since russia got the ball rolling back in 1957. that's mainly been thanks to two companies. rivals such asjeff faison is�*s and richard brampton's are pouring millions into going to the moon and beyond. a lot of the money is coming from nasa, which recently awarded $1 billion contract to get men back to the moon. fix, lat to get men back to the moon. a lot ofthe to get men back to the moon. a lot of the time — to get men back to the moon. a lot of the time we _ to get men back to the moon. a lot of the time we talk _ of the time we talk about... however, governments are equally if

not more important. the role of government is twofold. the first is thought as the most important. however, the more interesting and important part of this is governments act as a customer for these startups. it governments act as a customer for these stamps-— governments act as a customer for these startups— these startups. it was not so that first ut these startups. it was not so that first put me _ these startups. it was not so that first put me on — these startups. it was not so that first put me on the _ these startups. it was not so that first put me on the moon. - these startups. it was not so that first put me on the moon. it's - these startups. it was not so that| first put me on the moon. it's one small step — first put me on the moon. it's one small step for _ first put me on the moon. it's one small step for man, _ first put me on the moon. it's one small step for man, one - first put me on the moon. it's one small step for man, one giant - first put me on the moon. it's one| small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. at the height of the space rates with the soviet union, that has use yielded all sorts of innovations that have become part of our everyday lives. camera phones, sneakers, baby formula and prosthetic limbs — some of their development to space exploration.

some of the biggest rivals include the deep—pocketed chinese government, the only country to have its own space station at... as well as russia and india. it's cheaper than ever to get to space. our companies hoping to make money? i've been speaking to the man who is literally written the book on the space economy, but is also the founder of the fund space capital which is poured more than $100 million into the space economy. including elon musk�*s spacex. chad anderson, a real pleasure. yourfund has invested in more than 20 different space oriented companies. given the space industry is arguably more risky than most, what makes an idea a good investment? i more risky than most, what makes an idea a good investment?— idea a good investment? i think the riskiness factor _ idea a good investment? i think the riskiness factor is _ idea a good investment? i think the riskiness factor is a _ idea a good investment? i think the riskiness factor is a common - riskiness factor is a common misconception which i'm glad to help clear up. first of all, i think that

the space economy is much broader thanjust the space economy is much broader than just rockets and satellite hardware. it is the invisible backbone that powers are global economy. it helps goods get to their destination, across the globe, and it enables our financial markets. without time and peace, our markets would work. ., �* without time and peace, our markets would work-— would work. you're invested in elon musk's spacex. _ would work. you're invested in elon musk's spacex, but _ would work. you're invested in elon musk's spacex, but i'm _ would work. you're invested in elon musk's spacex, but i'm wondering l would work. you're invested in elon . musk's spacex, but i'm wondering how important is it and is rivals? how important is it and is rivals? how important are those companies in fuelling the space economy into the future? ., , ., ,., �* future? the only reason we're s-ueakin future? the only reason we're speaking about _ future? the only reason we're speaking about space - future? the only reason we're speaking about space as - future? the only reason we're speaking about space as an i speaking about space as an investment category today is because of spacex. a little over ten years ago, before theirfirst of spacex. a little over ten years ago, before their first commercial flight, the entire market was really government dominated. they reduced

the barriers to entry and brought transparency to a market where otherwise it didn't exist previously. what that meant was that companies could then start to go out and build business plans and raise capital to fund innovative new approaches, leveraging small data like platforms. the approaches, leveraging small data like platforms-— like platforms. the us investment morn an like platforms. the us investment morgan stanley — like platforms. the us investment morgan stanley is _ like platforms. the us investment morgan stanley is forecasting - like platforms. the us investment morgan stanley is forecasting the | morgan stanley is forecasting the space economy. it's says it's going to triple in size to reach $1 trillion by way 2040. with dais to triple in size to reach $1 trillion by way 2040. with 9096 of all activities _ trillion by way 2040. with 9096 of all activities falls _ trillion by way 2040. with 9096 of all activities falls within _ trillion by way 2040. with 9096 of all activities falls within the - all activities falls within the satellite industry, and that's the geospatial communications stacks. within that, you've got layers, and

these companies are growing incredibly fast. they're focused on the world's largest industries like maritime, logistics. regrowth is a company that's focused on leveraging information from satellites as well as ground sensors to enable precision forming. these companies, again, have grown incredibly fast over the last few years that have started to play an increasingly important role in their select market verticals. fin increasingly important role in their select market verticals.— select market verticals. on that oint, select market verticals. on that point. chad _ select market verticals. on that point, chad anderson, - select market verticals. on that point, chad anderson, good - select market verticals. on that | point, chad anderson, good luck select market verticals. on that - point, chad anderson, good luck with everything. i'll check in with you soon. it might sound like the stuff of science fiction, but it's actually the reality for one of the

men whose rockets is helping the great space aid take shape. he's scene as the largest rival to spacex. it's also part of nasa's plan to get back to the moon. peter beck, a real pleasure. the best line i've read about you is that you went from dishwasher by day two explosives by night. peter, how did you go from a dishwasher ended near for literally working for one of the most successful space companies? i've always had a passion for space and engineering. you combine those two things— and engineering. you combine those two things and you get rocket lab. i started _ two things and you get rocket lab. i started my— two things and you get rocket lab. i started my career at a company that as you _ started my career at a company that as you correctly point out, dishwashers. then into the design office _ dishwashers. then into the design office and — dishwashers. then into the design office and then her government research — office and then her government research institute that did a lot

with — research institute that did a lot with... and then, really went on the pilgrimage _ with... and then, really went on the pilgrimage to the united states. i came _ pilgrimage to the united states. i came back to new zealand and started rocket _ came back to new zealand and started rocket lab _ came back to new zealand and started rocket lah _ came back to new zealand and started rocket lab. you came back to new zealand and started rocket lab. ., ., , ., came back to new zealand and started rocket lab. ., . , . ., rocket lab. you also started without the wealth of — rocket lab. you also started without the wealth of your _ rocket lab. you also started without the wealth of your rivals. _ rocket lab. you also started without the wealth of your rivals. how - rocket lab. you also started without the wealth of your rivals. how have l the wealth of your rivals. how have you manage? where did all the money come from? state you manage? where did all the money come from? ~ ., , you manage? where did all the money come from?— come from? we raised capital out of the united states. _ come from? we raised capital out of the united states. it's _ come from? we raised capital out of the united states. it's true - come from? we raised capital out of the united states. it's true that - come from? we raised capital out of the united states. it's true that we | the united states. it's true that we raised _ the united states. it's true that we raised a _ the united states. it's true that we raised a significantly less amount of sums — raised a significantly less amount of sums. but we have a saying at rocket _ of sums. but we have a saying at rocket lab, _ of sums. but we have a saying at rocket lab, and it's the reason we named our— rocket lab, and it's the reason we named our rocket engine after rutherford. very famously said we had no _ rutherford. very famously said we had no money, so we have to think. sometimes. — had no money, so we have to think. sometimes, an over capitalised startup— sometimes, an over capitalised startup is— sometimes, an over capitalised startup is not the best thing. so we have very— startup is not the best thing. so we have very slim resources. just briefly explain _

have very slim resources. just briefly explain to _ have very slim resources. jut briefly explain to the uninitiated, the kind of things rocket lab is doing now and you're working on. the way to describe the space industry, you can _ way to describe the space industry, you can bucket it into three lumps. one is— you can bucket it into three lumps. one is launch. there's about a 10,000,000,000-dollar one is launch. there's about a 10,000,000,000—dollar opportunity. then there's infrastructure. it's about— then there's infrastructure. it's about a — then there's infrastructure. it's about a 30,000,000,000—dollar opportunity. then there's applications, and 830,000,000,000-dollar applications, and 830,000,000,000—dollar opportunity. those of— 830,000,000,000—dollar opportunity. those of the all the services we use from _ those of the all the services we use from space — those of the all the services we use from space. we cover all of the spectrum, basically. so, we build rockets— spectrum, basically. so, we build rockets and— spectrum, basically. so, we build rockets and we most famously are known _ rockets and we most famously are known for — rockets and we most famously are known for a — rockets and we most famously are known for a small dedicated launch vehicle _ known fora small dedicated launch vehicle it's— known for a small dedicated launch vehicle. it's currently the most frequently launch rocket. but we also build — frequently launch rocket. but we also build complete spacecraft and we had _ also build complete spacecraft and we had a _ also build complete spacecraft and we had a mission recently in the last year— we had a mission recently in the last year where we flew the first artemis — last year where we flew the first artemis mission to the moon. the

mission _ artemis mission to the moon. the mission. we're building two spacecraft to nasa to investigate the martian atmosphere which launched in 2024. it's also capable of human— launched in 2024. it's also capable of human space flight.— of human space flight. unlike your bi est of human space flight. unlike your biggest rivals. _ of human space flight. unlike your biggest rivals, some _ of human space flight. unlike your biggest rivals, some of _ of human space flight. unlike your biggest rivals, some of your- of human space flight. unlike your| biggest rivals, some of your shares are publicly traded. does the need to give shareholders a financial return limit what you can achieve? let's be frank, this is a business not without a lot of risk. absolutely not, i think it's the opposite. i think it drives good decisions — opposite. i think it drives good decisions because, if you have no accountability, then you can be very fast and _ accountability, then you can be very fast and loose with your decisions and spending. we see that across the industry— and spending. we see that across the industry and — and spending. we see that across the industry and the resulting outcomes. so i industry and the resulting outcomes. so i think— industry and the resulting outcomes. so i think it _ industry and the resulting outcomes. so i think it brings it to a level of discipline and rigour in the business _ of discipline and rigour in the business. it's very healthy. make no

mistake. _ business. it's very healthy. make no mistake. i'm — business. it's very healthy. make no mistake, i'm trying to build a multi—generational space company that will— multi—generational space company that will live on long, long, long after— that will live on long, long, long after i'm — that will live on long, long, long after i'm gone. one of the reasons we went— after i'm gone. one of the reasons we went public in fact was to enforce that.— we went public in fact was to enforce that. , , ., . enforce that. india's 'ust launched a mission to h enforce that. india's 'ust launched a mission to the _ enforce that. india'sjust launched a mission to the moon, _ enforce that. india'sjust launched a mission to the moon, china's i a mission to the moon, china's trying to get it fast not there. there's this growing talk of mining the moon for things like helium three. do you worry it will be a free—for—all? will it even be economically viable? i free-for-all? will it even be economically viable?- free-for-all? will it even be economically viable? i think some of those things — economically viable? i think some of those things become _ economically viable? i think some of those things become much - economically viable? i think some of those things become much more - those things become much more economically viable as a destination. at the moment, it is not economically viable to go to the moon, _ not economically viable to go to the moon, mina and bring it back to earth _ moon, mina and bring it back to earth the — moon, mina and bring it back to earth. the only reason you want to mining spaces because you want to do stuff in _ mining spaces because you want to do stuff in space. | mining spaces because you want to do stuff in space-— stuff in space. i want to talk to ou stuff in space. i want to talk to you about space _ stuff in space. i want to talk to you about space tourism - stuff in space. i want to talk to you about space tourism and i stuff in space. i want to talk to i you about space tourism and the other things your rivals want to do. and again, you want said, "don't get me wrong, i think this increments

the human species." but you went on and said, "i think you can have a larger impact by commercialising space and making it accessible." what did you mean by that? you think of what is the — what did you mean by that? you think of what is the difference _ what did you mean by that? you think of what is the difference between - what did you mean by that? you think of what is the difference between a i of what is the difference between a developing nation and a developed nation _ developing nation and a developed nation. it's knowledge. that's it, it's pretty— nation. it's knowledge. that's it, it's pretty much knowledge. so if you can _ it's pretty much knowledge. so if you can disseminate the knowledge of the world _ you can disseminate the knowledge of the world to an emerging nation through the use of space, for example. _ through the use of space, for example, then that has a huge and lasting _ example, then that has a huge and lasting affect on the evolution on the human race. gps is an obvious example. — the human race. gps is an obvious example, but if i told you your tinder date wouldn't turn up, you would _ tinder date wouldn't turn up, you would give — tinder date wouldn't turn up, you would give me a... so, it's woven into— would give me a... so, it's woven into our— would give me a... so, it's woven into our everyday lives, whether it be into our everyday lives, whether it he disaster— into our everyday lives, whether it be disaster recovery, crop

monitoring or earth after probation - it's _ monitoring or earth after probation — it's completely intertwined. —— earth _ — it's completely intertwined. —— earth operation. is - it's completely intertwined. -- earth operation.— - it's completely intertwined. -- earth operation. is there anything that kee -s earth operation. is there anything that keeps you — earth operation. is there anything that keeps you up _ earth operation. is there anything that keeps you up at _ earth operation. is there anything that keeps you up at night - earth operation. is there anything that keeps you up at night about. that keeps you up at night about this? if that keeps you up at night about this? , ., ., ., that keeps you up at night about this? i. ., ., , , this? if you want to sleep, don't become this? if you want to sleep, don't laecome a ceo — this? if you want to sleep, don't become a ceo of _ this? if you want to sleep, don't become a ceo of the _ this? if you want to sleep, don't become a ceo of the rocket - become a ceo of the rocket companies! jeepers, that worst thing you can _ companies! jeepers, that worst thing you can do! _ companies! jeepers, that worst thing you can do! it's a real industry and it's a _ you can do! it's a real industry and it's a real— you can do! it's a real industry and it's a real thing. there's enough to worry— it's a real thing. there's enough to worry about when you wants rock rocket _ worry about when you wants rock rocket. ., �* ., ~' worry about when you wants rock rocket. ., �* ., ~ ., , ., rocket. you're working on your neutron rocket, _ rocket. you're working on your neutron rocket, which - rocket. you're working on your neutron rocket, which could i neutron rocket, which could eventually power human space flight. correct me if i'm wrong, but you haven't been to space yourself yet, so are you planning to get up there? if so, what excites you the most? i'm in awe of astronauts. let that be i'm in awe of astronauts. let that he said — i'm in awe of astronauts. let that he said i— i'm in awe of astronauts. let that be said. i possess all of the technical— be said. i possess all of the technical knowledge about how rocket

works. _ technical knowledge about how rocket works. but _ technical knowledge about how rocket works, but none of the courage to fly on _ works, but none of the courage to fly on one — works, but none of the courage to fly on one i— works, but none of the courage to fly on one. i understand the safety factor in _ fly on one. i understand the safety factor in the margin on every part. i'm factor in the margin on every part. i'm in— factor in the margin on every part. i'm in complete awe and admiration of adults— i'm in complete awe and admiration of adults or— i'm in complete awe and admiration of adults or not, but i highly doubt iwill_ of adults or not, but i highly doubt twill ever— of adults or not, but i highly doubt i will ever go to space —— astronauts. i will ever go to space -- astronauts.— i will ever go to space -- astronauts. good luck with everything _ astronauts. good luck with everything and _ astronauts. good luck with everything and i'll- astronauts. good luck with everything and i'll talk - astronauts. good luck with everything and i'll talk to l astronauts. good luck with i everything and i'll talk to you soon. if there's one name that has defined the space age, it's the national air and on and space ministration. known, of course, as nasa. after a hiatus of more than 50 years, trying to be the first one back there. only this time, it's even more defendant than ever on private companies. so, as space becomes more commercial, i decided to catch up with a former astronaut and us senator who is now the big boss of nasa. bill nelson, a real pleasure having you on the show. when the space race first started in

the 1950s, when the space race first started in the 19505, it when the space race first started in the 1950s, it was very much the preserve of government. the us and the soviet union. what's changed to allow the private sector in? considerable amount of things. first of all, you can share costs, and it's notjust that of all, you can share costs, and it's not just that we're doing of all, you can share costs, and it's notjust that we're doing it with the private sector, we're doing it with the international community as well. so, for example, we go back to the moon after a half—century. we're going back not only with our commercial partners, but with our international partners. but another reason to bring in outside people is the creativity of entrepreneurs in the creativity of entrepreneurs in the private sector. and that has certainly worn out, as we have seen with space acts, the commercial crew to international space station. ——

spacex. also other companies with regard to commercial cargo. imilieu spacex. also other companies with regard to commercial cargo. when it comes to the — regard to commercial cargo. when it comes to the private _ regard to commercial cargo. when it comes to the private sector, - regard to commercial cargo. when it comes to the private sector, there i comes to the private sector, there are reallyjust comes to the private sector, there are really just two comes to the private sector, there are reallyjust two companies that have proven technologies to launch rockets. you also intend spacex and rocket lab. from yourselves, spacex at least, $10 million. would they be able to be so successful without those public sector contracts? weill. those public sector contracts? well, certainl , those public sector contracts? well, certainly. the _ those public sector contracts? well, certainly, the incentive _ those public sector contracts? well, certainly, the incentive for- those public sector contracts? -ii certainly, the incentive for them to start their work was government payments and investment. for example, the whole commercialjet airline — what do you think it was developed for? it was originally developed for? it was originally developed for? it was originally developed for the us military after world war ii. look at whatjet aeroplanes do in the commercial

sector today. so, sometimes they receive money, there's incentive money to start in the commercial sector. �* , ., �* money to start in the commercial sector. �* , ., , money to start in the commercial sector. �* �* , ., , ., sector. and you've given billions of dollars to spacex, _ sector. and you've given billions of dollars to spacex, to _ sector. and you've given billions of dollars to spacex, to blue - sector. and you've given billions of dollars to spacex, to blue oregon | dollars to spacex, to blue oregon and boeing. last year, you back to the idea of fixed—price contracts, so i have to ask you — how do you know the corners won't be cut, given that these private companies won't want to lose money?— that these private companies won't want to lose money? because we don't launch until it's — want to lose money? because we don't launch until it's safe, _ want to lose money? because we don't launch until it's safe, and _ want to lose money? because we don't launch until it's safe, and it's _ launch until it's safe, and it's nasa that says whether or not it's safe to launch. that's the bottom line answer. safe to launch. that's the bottom line answer-— safe to launch. that's the bottom line answer. are you over reliant, 'ust on a line answer. are you over reliant, just on a handful _ line answer. are you over reliant, just on a handful of _ line answer. are you over reliant, just on a handful of small- just on a handful of small companies? or is it inevitable, given the nature of the space industry? given the nature of the space indust ? ., ~ given the nature of the space indust ? . ~ ., given the nature of the space industry?— given the nature of the space indust ? ., ., , industry? take for example nasa's total budget- _ industry? take for example nasa's total budget. i— industry? take for example nasa's total budget. i think _ industry? take for example nasa's total budget. i think we _ industry? take for example nasa's total budget. i think we have - total budget. i think we have somewhere a quarter of our spending going to small businesses. we bring

small businesses in at every part of our business — in our science, in our business — in our science, in our earth science, in the exploration programme. but in many cases, we do small businesses directly, and an example of that i mentioned is the eclipse missions, which three of them are going to land this year on the surface of the moon. that's incentive money for them to do it, and then developed a lender and help us get the information. for example, one of these landers is going to day on the south bowl to see if there's water on the surface —— dig on the south bowl. that's usually important to know, because if there are is while water, there is hydrogen. and whether is hydrogen, we've got a gas

station. ~ ., ., , ., whether is hydrogen, we've got a gas station. ~ ., ., i. , whether is hydrogen, we've got a gas station. ~ ., ., , station. what do you see as the most likel and station. what do you see as the most likely and profitable _ station. what do you see as the most likely and profitable uses _ station. what do you see as the most likely and profitable uses of- station. what do you see as the most likely and profitable uses of the - likely and profitable uses of the rockets and satellites that we're sending out there?— rockets and satellites that we're sending out there? well, i see the real value for _ sending out there? well, i see the real value for entrepreneurs - sending out there? well, i see the real value for entrepreneurs to - sending out there? well, i see the| real value for entrepreneurs to take business off the face of the earth and take it up to low earth orbit. and to do manufacturing and experimentation and drug research already. we have two examples as we speak. the drug has been so successful with regard to cancer. they have learned away in space to make that drug more efficiently on earth. the same with stem cells. we're going to see fiberoptics being learned how to manufacture more effectively in zero gravity orbit.

and that's just for starters. i got and that's 'ust for starters. i got to ask you — and that's just for starters. i got to ask you this, _ and that's just for starters. i got to ask you this, because - and that'sjust for starters. i got to ask you this, because given that the advancers in the private sector means in the last three years, we put more satellites up and in the preceding 60 years, i'm just wondering — that's a lot. what are the risks that congestion poses? well, it's real, and it's not only real, it's a problem. because space junk is getting in the way. we have to move the space station and we can only track objects that are that big or bigger. there's a lot of stuff that's smaller. even a paint ship coming in the wrong direction at orbital speed, which is 17,500 miles an hour, hit and asked walt,

spacewalk — that could be fatal. this is a major problem for the future. the first way to fix it is... it will eventually take it into the earth �*s atmosphere and burn up. we're going to have to tow them much higher into a graveyard orbit. hoop higher into a graveyard orbit. how committed is _ higher into a graveyard orbit. how committed is the _ higher into a graveyard orbit. how committed is the current administration to that goal. what's the purpose of putting man back up there with my the

the purpose of putting man back up there with m— there with my the goal is not only committed. _ there with my the goal is not only committed, but _ there with my the goal is not only committed, but it's _ there with my the goal is not only committed, but it's here. - there with my the goal is not only committed, but it's here. we've l there with my the goal is not only - committed, but it's here. we've been to the moon a half—century ago. we're going back to utilise that environment. in order to be able to create an invention so that we can send humans all the way to mars. is it possible this will move to the rest of space. it is it possible this will move to the rest of space-— rest of space. it art is. we are a signatory _ rest of space. it art is. we are a signatory of _ rest of space. it art is. we are a signatory of the _ rest of space. it art is. we are a signatory of the artemis - signatory of the artemis accords, and the artemis accords are a set of standards now signed by 27 nations,

the last of which was india. we will use space for peaceful purposes and we will respect other people's rights. but the international space treaty, an earlier document, says you will not claim territory on any celestial body. what i'm concerned about is that we find water on the south pull of the moon, china gets there and china says, "this is our area, you can't come here, it's ours." do you happen to remember what happens to the spratly islands in the south china sea? that's what i don't want to happen. on the south bowl or any part of the moon or any other celestial body. it should be for all nations. d0

other celestial body. it should be for all nations.— for all nations. do you get intelligence about - for all nations. do you get intelligence about china's| for all nations. do you get i intelligence about china's on for all nations. do you get - intelligence about china's on space rate? i'mjust intelligence about china's on space rate? i'm just basically wondering if you think you can beat them up there. ~ �* ., ., ., there. well, we're going to land in another two _ there. well, we're going to land in another two or _ there. well, we're going to land in another two or three _ there. well, we're going to land in another two or three years. - there. well, we're going to land in another two or three years. china, j another two or three years. china, which has had a very good space programme, they most recently said 2030. they said that publicly. but i suspect that they're trying to do it earlier. let suspect that they're trying to do it earlier. ., , ., �* earlier. let me end on this. you've been u- earlier. let me end on this. you've been up there. _ earlier. let me end on this. you've been up there, what's _ earlier. let me end on this. you've been up there, what's it _ earlier. let me end on this. you've been up there, what's it like - earlier. let me end on this. you've been up there, what's it like open | been up there, what's it like open space? been up there, what's it like open sace? ., ., ., , space? you get a whole different perspective- _ space? you get a whole different perspective. conceived _ space? you get a whole different perspective. conceived with - space? you get a whole different perspective. conceived with the i perspective. conceived with the naked eye how we're messing it up. cutting down the rain forest in the upper amazon. you can see all that from space. i didn't see racial division and i didn't see religious division, i didn't see political division. i saw that you're all in this together. as said citizens of

planet earth. it changes your perspective. ibiiiii planet earth. it changes your perspective-— planet earth. it changes your --ersective. �* ,., , perspective. bill nelson, the big boss of nasa, _ perspective. bill nelson, the big boss of nasa, an _ perspective. bill nelson, the big boss of nasa, an absolute - perspective. bill nelson, the big - boss of nasa, an absolute pleasure. the book with everything and we'll talk to you soon. see the book with everything and we'll talk to you soon.— the book with everything and we'll talk to you soon.- that's l talk to you soon. see you. that's it, we talk to you soon. see you. that's it. we hope _ talk to you soon. see you. that's it. we hope you _ talk to you soon. see you. that's it, we hope you enjoyed - talk to you soon. see you. that's it, we hope you enjoyed it. - talk to you soon. see you. that's it, we hope you enjoyed it. you | it, we hope you enjoyed it. you can keep up with the latest on the global economy in the bbc news's website. you can also follow me on twitter. thanks for watching, i'll see you soon. bye—bye. hello. it's going to be a wet one for many of us this weekend. in fact, it'll feel more like september, perhaps even early october, with the strength of the wind. really not a pleasant picture at all. the weather systems are lining up in the atlantic. here's the satellite picture. the weather systems are lining up in the atlantic. here's the satellite picture. multiple weather fronts heading in our direction.

it has been raining and the rain will get heavier in some areas as we go through the morning and into saturday afternoon. now, over the next two or three days, we will have rather a lot of rain in some parts of the country where you see the deeper blue colours here, the darker blues. that's the rainfall accumulating to around 50 millimetres of rain or more, so about a month's worth of rainfall in a couple of days. so the forecast for the morning shows that rain across many parts of the country. the north of scotland, however, will have had clear skies and in fact, really chilly in the sheltered glens, maybe 4—5 degrees in rural spots, but for most of us, it's in the range of around 12—14. so a lot of cloud in the morning. the winds will also be strengthening in southwestern parts of the country to near gale force along some coasts. notice that the north of scotland escapes the rain. in fact, for ourfriends in lerwick, we're anticipating mostly sunny sunny skies, and indeed northern parts of mainland scotland also also enjoying some sunshine. all the weather action will be way to the south. outbreaks of rain turning heavier

in northern ireland, parts of wales and also the northwest of england. all of this does not bode well for the ashes. interruptions are likely, and it also is not idealfor golf either. the forecast then for sunday. the low pressure is still with us. it's in a process of moving away into the north sea. but this long weather front here, well, it's trying to pull away, but it's doing so at a glacial pace, so that does mean more rain to come, especially across parts of northern england and wales. now, come monday and tuesday, that low is across scandinavia. the weather does tend to improve a little bit, but the air is generally coming in from the north atlantic, so that means that the temperatures will remain subdued in the week ahead. and, actually, the weather outlook is still looking fairly unsettled with all of these shower symbols here in the outlook. wherever you are, have a good weekend.

and a big one on the schedule.