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greece braces for another day of intense heat as wildfires continue to rage. and we'll have the latest from day seven of the world cup, as japan prepares to take on costa rica. hello, i'm mark lobel. let's start with a story that's been breaking in the past hour or $0. the chief executive of the british bank natwest has resigned after admitting she was the source of an inaccurate bbc story about a high—profile banking client. dame alison rose had passed on information about the private dealings of the right—wing former leader of the brexit party, nigel farage. simonjones reports. she had apologised within the early hours of this morning,
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dame alison rosenquist. a serious —— dame alison rose quit. in a statement the group chairman of natwest said... last died on his show on gigabits news nigel farage said her position had become untenable.— her position had become untenable. . , . ., ., untenable. perfectly clear to me that dame _ untenable. perfectly clear to me that dame alison - untenable. perfectly clear to me that dame alison rose l untenable. perfectly clear to | me that dame alison rose is unfit to be the ceo of a big group, and, that howard davies who was supposed to be in charge of governance, has failed as well. given that we have a 39% stake in this, we, the great british public, i think at that investor statement on friday morning, the government ought to say we don't have any competence in this management. frankly, i think they should all go. last think they should all go. last week mr farres _ think they should all go. last week mr farres presented
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evidence that his account at coutts had been closed indefinitely due to his political values contrasting with the bank's values. that printed a story by bbc�*s simon jack who sourced... it was for commercial reasons, the source said. the bbc has since apologised for its inaccurate reporting. dame alison said she should not have... and in a statement she said... the treasury had previously said people should be able to exercise lawful freedom of expression without the fear of having their bank accounts closed. simonjones, bbc news. we will have more on that story in about 20 minutes in a business use. —— business news. greece is bracing itself for another day of intense heat with wildfires
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continuing to rage. the worst affected areas are the islands of rhodes and evia where the fires have been burning for days. on tuesday two pilots died when their plane crashed as it battled fires on the island of evia. jenny hill reports from rhodes. unrelenting, unforgiving — the fires are raging on. firefighters battling to contain them. notjust here on rhodes, but on the islands of evia and corfu, too. it's desperate, dangerous work. this afternoon on evia, a terrible reminder of the risks taken. a firefighting aircraft dumps its water, appears to clip a tree and loses control. the two pilots on board were killed.
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so many are putting themselves in harm's way, like volunteer firefighter panagiotis, who takes us to see what this fire can do. his team's camping nearby, still on high alert. their village isjust down the road. translation: you can | understand our anguish. we were running to put out the fire. we were desperate to save the forest, but we were also desperate to save our houses and our families. when we came to the top of a nearby hill, the scale of the challenge became obvious. up here, you really get a sense of how difficult the task is for firefighters. when we first arrived here, most of the smoke was coming from over there. but in the last few minutes, there's been a flare—up just down here. and of course, the strong wind is not only making things tougher for the people fighting the fires, but much more dangerous. this isn't the image this tourist island wants to project. earlier, the greek prime minister acknowledged that difficult days lie ahead. they sing. which is why, even here, a birthday is worth
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celebrating, though the candle's unlit. you don't light candle? no, we don't light the fire. "we only put out the fires," he jokes. "we don't start them." dark humour in sobering times. jenny hill, bbc news, rhodes. let's get some of the day's other news now. the government of ecuador has declared a state of emergency in all prisons in the country, and authorised the armed forces to take control, following a wave of violence. the attorney general�*s office says 31 inmates are now known to have died in four days of clashes in a prison in guayaquil. the british billionaire owner of tottenham hotspur football club, joe lewis — seen here on the left — has been criminally charged in the united states with orchestrating a brazen insider trading scheme. a us attorney has alleged that for years mr lewis exploited his access to corporate boardrooms
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by providing inside information to people in his social circles, enabling them to make millions of dollars on the stock market. in a statement mr lewis's lawyer has said the charges are ill—conceived and will be vigorously defended. an emergency effort is under way to save dozens of whales stranded on the western australian coast, after 51 others were confirmed dead. the pod of long—finned pilot whales came ashore close to cheynes beach, south of perth. heavy—lifting equipment and experts from perth zoo have joined efforts to rescue the marine mammals. china's ruling communist party has dismissed the country's foreign minister and replaced him with his predecessor. qin gang disappeared from public view a month ago; a statement mentioning an apparent health problem has since been wiped from the record. his duties are being taken on by the top policy official, wang yi, who's already filled in for him at international events. our china correspondent stephen mcdonell
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sent this update from beijing. this is, of course, absolutely massive news in china and yet in typical fashion it came in such a muted way with just a few sentences read out on the evening television news bulletin that the foreign minister oin gang was to be removed from his post and replaced by the communist party's seniorforeign affairs official, wang yi, someone who has done thejob before. for the chinese people that is all they get and i suppose it is for them to accept it. that is the idea. the government made a decision, this is your foreign minister, he is gone, no more explanation as to why. the interesting thing, though, is how somebody who was seen as being so close to xi jinping, who was appointed by xi jinping only half a year
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ago could have so quickly been removed from this post. because of the opaque nature of governance here, all manners of questions are being asked about this. i mean, he disappeared and was not fronting up for his normal duties about a month ago and the official explanation was because of health reasons. but as the weeks went on and he was not reappearing, people started to speculate that maybe it is some sort of political punishment for him. then online, the rumours started spreading about him having had an affair with a television presenter and that she also had disappeared. it could be a combination of those two things as well, for example, his enemies in the party could be using an affair like this, an extramarital affair to get him. taiwan is bracing for what could be the strongest
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typhoon to hit the island in four years. the typhoon, named doksuri, is headed towards taiwan and the philippines. taiwan's weather bureau has issued warnings for strong winds and heavy rains. it's forced taiwan to cancel parts of its annual military drills that began monday. the drills test taiwans defences in case of an attack from china. one such drill is ongoing despite the expected typhoon. rupert wingfield—hayes reports. you can see the helicopters have read to show that they are the opposing forces. it is simulating an air assault from the seat coming from the chinese navy and landing here, trying to seize the international airport. as they learn here on the ground we will see simulated attack by opposition forces. mainland
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forces, onto the airport here, then we expect to see a response from the taiwanese forces on the ground to repel this attack. here they go. disembarking from the aircraft onto the ground. and now the battle for control of the airport is about to begin. what is going on he has never been done before in taiwan. they have ashley closed down international airport today for this exercise. they're really doing is they have learned from what happened last year in ukraine when russian forces moved on the first day of the invasion to ukraine to use the airport and bring invasion to ukraine to use the airportand bring in invasion to ukraine to use the airport and bring in more forces and try to seize the ukrainian capital. that attack was repelled but here in taiwan it was really a wake—up call. but if china does try to invade the island what they will do is seize key infrastructure like this and this will be a key place where they must be repelled if taiwan is to defend itself. , ~ , itself. rupert wingfield-hayes there.
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president biden has announced the creation of a national monument to emmett till, a black teenager whose lynching in the 1950s consolidated the civil rights movement. the 14—year—old was tortured, murdered and his body dumped in a river in mississippi after a white shopkeeper said he had whistled at her. the monument will also be dedicated to emmett till�*s mother who campaigned forjustice. mr biden said great countries acknowledged the truth. silence is complicity. i will not be silent, nor will you be silent about what happened! cheering and applause. we can'tjust choose to learn what we want to know. we have to learn what we should know. we should know about our country. we should know everything. the good, the bad, the truth of who we are as a nation. police in england will no longer respond to concerns about mental health if there's no risk to life or a crime being committed. the government says welfare
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calls are stopping officers fighting crime, but mental health leaders say lives could be put at risk, as our home affairs correspondent tom symonds reports. i would say ideal with at least one mental health job a shift. —— | one mental health job a shift. —— i would say that i deal with. we had someone hanging out the first floor windows, tried to get out to kill himself.— tried to get out to kill himself. ~ , ., ~ tried to get out to kill himself. �* , ., ~ ., himself. pc april clark, four ears in himself. pc april clark, four years in the _ himself. pc april clark, four years in the job _ himself. pc april clark, four years in the job during - himself. pc april clark, four| years in the job during which years in thejob during which she has become used to handling suicide attempts. you she has become used to handling suicide attempts.— suicide attempts. you feel responsible for _ suicide attempts. you feel responsible for their - suicide attempts. you feel responsible for their life . suicide attempts. you feel| responsible for their life at that moment because it is quite literally in my hands, especially without incident. you can't let them go, you can't let anything happen to them, you just have to do what you can and reassure them and their family you can and reassure them and theirfamily until you can and reassure them and their family until the right help can come along. fix, their family until the right help can come along. a life at risk. help can come along. a life at risk- that _ help can come along. a life at risk. that is _ help can come along. a life at risk. that is always _ help can come along. a life at risk. that is always a - help can come along. a life at risk. that is always a job - help can come along. a life at risk. that is always a job for l risk. that is always a job for the police. many other calls to 999 are far less serious. when eo - le 999 are far less serious. when peeple are _ 999 are far less serious. when peeple are going _ 999 are far less serious. when people are going home - 999 are far less serious. when people are going home for - 999 are far less serious. when people are going home for the | people are going home for the weekend on their, sort of, 9-to-5 weekend on their, sort of, 9—to—5 hoursjob and weekend on their, sort of, 9—to—5 hours job and they don't want the sort of worry on
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themselves for the weekend, they will ring us as just go and do a little check. they will ring us asjust go and do a little check. somehow, olice and do a little check. somehow, police chiefs _ and do a little check. somehow, police chiefs say _ and do a little check. somehow, police chiefs say we've - and do a little check. somehow, police chiefs say we've ended i police chiefs say we've ended up police chiefs say we've ended up providing the primary emergency service for mental health. now that's going to change. there is a question that police are increasingly going to be asking — is this just a concern about someone's welfare or is there a genuine risk to life? the place where that question is going to be asked, most of all, is right here. the police 999 control room. call handlers like tim brown are training to decide whether a life is at risk or a crime being committed. if not,... ., , ., not,... no result, we will not be attending. _ not,... no result, we will not be attending, 0k. _ not,... no result, we will not be attending, ok. i— not,... no result, we will not be attending, 0k. iwill- be attending, ok. i will probably get in contact with the ambulance and then they can make the referrals to mental health that is required, ok? how much do you think previously you are actually helping the nhs, the ambulance service, care homes, do their jobs rather than your own forces police officers do the
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job they need to do?- forces police officers do the job they need to do? yeah, we did help them _ job they need to do? yeah, we did help them quite _ job they need to do? yeah, we did help them quite a - job they need to do? yeah, we did help them quite a bit - job they need to do? yeah, we did help them quite a bit but i did help them quite a bit but we already know that the work and the kind ofjobs they take on, how important they are as well. so it is not something you sort of sigh about or roll your eyes about, you are happy to do it. it goes back again to who is needed for it and it is not the police. i! who is needed for it and it is not the police.— not the police. if you could, send us- -- _ not the police. if you could, send us... but— not the police. if you could, send us... but the - not the police. if you could, send us... but the police i not the police. if you could, | send us... but the police are bein: send us... but the police are being called _ send us... but the police are being called because - send us... but the police are being called because the - send us... but the police are| being called because the nhs send us... but the police are i being called because the nhs is under pressure so news services —— new services will be needed like to crisis drop—in centres offering a safe haven for people struggling with their mental health. the people struggling with their mental health.— people struggling with their mental health. ,, ., mental health. the nhs mental health trust _ mental health. the nhs mental health trust are _ mental health. the nhs mental health trust are getting - mental health. the nhs mental health trust are getting an i health trust are getting an extra £2.3 billion a year, landing by march of next year, building a lot of extra capacity. and we have been seeing in humberside where this model has been rolling out over the last three years, the police and the nhs working together can make is really effective. together can make is really effective-— effective. the college of psychiatrists _ effective. the college of psychiatrists has - effective. the college of psychiatrists has warned effective. the college of i psychiatrists has warned those resources might not be ready within the two years needed to adopt the approach but the
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government believes this is a change which will save a million police hours a year to spend catching criminals. tom simon's bbc news. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. it often means health care services are put under extreme pressure. as the summer holidays start, the nhs is hoping people can help them by notjust hoping people can help them by not just turning hoping people can help them by notjust turning up here unless there's an urgent need.- notjust turning up here unless there's an urgent need. what we want to do _ there's an urgent need. what we want to do is _ there's an urgent need. what we want to do is help _ there's an urgent need. what we want to do is help people - there's an urgent need. what we want to do is help people get i want to do is help people get to the right place and seen in a timely fashion. that's important for us here in the emergency department because we want to be able to treat people who have emergency conditions, life—threatening conditions in a timely way. life-threatening conditions in a timely way-— life-threatening conditions in a timely way. what you can do now, a timely way. what you can do now. just _ a timely way. what you can do now, just because _ a timely way. what you can do now, just because of- a timely way. what you can do now, just because of remote l now, just because of remote technology, is you can wring your— technology, is you can wring your own _ technology, is you can wring your own gp who knows you and has got — your own gp who knows you and has got your records and knows what _ has got your records and knows what medicines are taken, and they— what medicines are taken, and they can — what medicines are taken, and
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they can sort out a prescription for you. people unsure of— prescription for you. people unsure of the _ prescription for you. people unsure of the health - prescription for you. people unsure of the health care i unsure of the health care service they need are advised to call 11! or use nhs 11! online. but doctors say those who have been told they need urgent care shouldn't delay coming in. urgent care shouldn't delay coming in-_ urgent care shouldn't delay coming in. for more stories from across _ coming in. for more stories from across the _ coming in. for more stories from across the uk, - coming in. for more stories from across the uk, head i coming in. for more stories| from across the uk, head to coming in. for more stories i from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. _ you're live with bbc news. mps have warned that more nurseries could close unless the government adequately funds its plans to expand funded childcare in england. working parents of pre—school children from the age of nine months will be offered up to 30 hours of childcare paid for by the government from september 2025. our education reporter vanessa clarke reports. and mouse took a stroll through the deep dark wood... and mouse took a stroll through the deep dark wood. . ._ the deep dark wood... these children are _ the deep dark wood... these children are learning - the deep dark wood. .. these children are learning vital- children are learning vital schools for life. but a new report highlights in early
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years sector that's struggling with nurseries closing and staff leaving. the owner of this nursery says the amount they are paid for government funded places is simply not enough. funded places is simply not enou:h. ~ funded places is simply not enou~h.~ , ., enough. we need support from the government. _ enough. we need support from the government. for— enough. we need support from the government. for many i enough. we need support from i the government. for many years, there's been quite a shop for — we've had to accommodate that ljy we've had to accommodate that by bank loans etc, by continuing to provide high—quality care. continuing to provide high-quality care. nurseries like this one _ high-quality care. nurseries like this one are _ high-quality care. nurseries like this one are preparing l high-quality care. nurseries l like this one are preparing for a huge change. over the next two years, the government will be paid for a significant a higher proportion of the hours used by children here and nurseries across england. but mps are warning for the expansion to work, it is vital ministers get the funding right. i ministers get the funding riuht. ., ministers get the funding riuht. ~' ., , right. i think there are big challenges _ right. i think there are big challenges of _ right. i think there are big| challenges of deliverability right. i think there are big i challenges of deliverability in terms — challenges of deliverability in terms of the government plan, thrat's— terms of the government plan, that's what we made these recommendations. in fairness to the government, they've come up with more — the government, they've come up with more money for the future years. — with more money for the future years. and _ with more money for the future years, and that's all welcome,
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ithink— years, and that's all welcome, i think the _ years, and that's all welcome, i think the committee broadly welcomes that. but what we are saying _ welcomes that. but what we are saying is— welcomes that. but what we are saying is there are other burdens _ saying is there are other burdens and barriers they should _ burdens and barriers they should be removing from a sector— should be removing from a sector and the need to make sure — sector and the need to make sure that _ sector and the need to make sure that they are looking at that — sure that they are looking at that funding to make sure they -et that funding to make sure they get it— that funding to make sure they get it right. that funding to make sure they get it right-— get it right. the government sa s get it right. the government says they — get it right. the government says they are _ get it right. the government says they are rolling - get it right. the government says they are rolling out i get it right. the government says they are rolling out the | says they are rolling out the single biggest investment in child care in england ever, and are investing hundreds of millions of pounds each year to increase the amount they pay providers. but early years charities are still concerned about the expansion plans. without addressing underfunding and the workforce crisis, there is just not going to be the nurseries, child minders, other childcare providers there to deliver the places that parents will need. ~ , ., deliver the places that parents will need. ~ , . ., will need. when be at the water in, will need. when be at the water in. ready--- _ will need. when be at the water in, ready... parents— will need. when be at the water in, ready... parents are - in, ready... parents are already _ in, ready... parents are already booking - in, ready... parents are already booking please| in, ready... parents are i already booking please set this nursery to take care of dutch advantage of the government's new roll—out. he begins in april. vanessa clarke, bbc news, salford. it's day seven of the women's world cup.
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the group stages continue with japan taking on costa rica in under an hour. spain play tournament debutants zambia. and olympic gold medallists canada face off against the republic of ireland. live now to our reporter katie silver, who's in sydney. thanks so much forjoining us, it's a big game with japan versus costa rica. of course japan recently beat zambia 5—0, costa rica losing to spain, so the pressure is on costa rica? that's right, so these are the major games in group c. you mentioned the scores, these are the second games, and as a result it appears that group c is emerging as two strong favourites, and two underdogs that will have to really bring it if they want to keep their place in the comfort addition. but this is a world cup, anything could happen. so the first game is japan against costa rica. we saw the
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goalkeeper of costa rica doing a very impressivejob in her last game against spain. there were 12 attempts at goal from the spanish team and only three when an. so in that sense, it was seen — she may indeed be able to break out of the costa rican leaks, and may well be scooped to play internationally after that. so that's the first game, the other you mentioned was spain against zambia. spain has been through a lot of turmoil in recent times, at the end of last year we saw a mass resignation, 15 players walking out saying they were unhappy with the manager, calling for his resignation, as well as complaining about a number of aspects about how the team is managed, for example saying they arrived at international competitions too late. they have managed to recoup some of those players, but the players are somewhat new, they are new to playing together, there were lots of questions about how well they would play together. but if last game against costa
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rica is anything to go by, it seems spain is in very good form, and these games may be well to watch in terms of what these other teams will bring it when it comes to competition from spain and japan. find when it comes to competition from spain and japan. and group b. australia _ from spain and japan. and group b, australia is _ from spain and japan. and group b, australia is breathing - from spain and japan. and group b, australia is breathing down i b, australia is breathing down the next of canada, who they face after their game with ireland. and of course, ireland lost australia already, so this game is crucial to both of them, canada versus ireland? canada v ireland, canada won the gold medal at the most recent olympics, playing against ireland. it is a very evenly matched group, canada played against nigeria, that was 0—0, the only thing really of note that came out of that game was one of the nigerian players getting a card. but this is really a competition here between canada and ireland, they are very closely matched, most money would go towards canada, but yes, it is
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a very tight group, that one. katie, thanks so much. let's speak now to alex ibaceta, she's a football reporter who's in perth. you heard katie talk about the spanish team there, it's not been a smooth ride to the competition — just remind our view is why there were so many problems in the lead up to this and what the protests were about with the spanish team —— remind our viewers? the about with the spanish team -- remind our viewers?— remind our viewers? the 15 -la ers remind our viewers? the 15 players wrote _ remind our viewers? the 15 players wrote a _ remind our viewers? the 15 players wrote a letter i remind our viewers? the 15 players wrote a letter to i remind our viewers? the 15 | players wrote a letter to the federation and said they refused to be called up to the national team until a few changes were made, essentially a lot of players felt unsatisfied when they went to the national team, they felt as if they are getting more from their club than their national team. so why would they want to go to the national team if they weren't getting anything out of it? so the federation switched a few things, but the federation was essentially
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telling the players that this is enough and we won't change muchjust is enough and we won't change much just because you're protesting wasn't taken in the most sincere way from the federation particularly. at some of the players are back, they are at their peak years and they want to be playing. so if she were to set out at the world cup, it would not be in her favour for that, world cup, it would not be in herfavourfor that, so world cup, it would not be in her favour for that, so there are a few players who want to be back and play with the national team, be back and play with the nationalteam, but be back and play with the national team, but not all of them came back. essentially you are missing a lot of the starting 11 that were at the euros last year, for example, so not everyone is back and none of the solutions are there, so i think it was more about let's go to the world cup and find the solutions later if possible, depending on how that goes. but i think the players are gelling together with the new players coming in, that usually wouldn't necessarily be called up if the 15 players
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were still there. i called up if the 15 players were still there.- were still there. i was speaking _ were still there. i was speaking to _ were still there. i was speaking to a - were still there. i was| speaking to a zambian were still there. i was i speaking to a zambian fan earlier and they were making the point that their women's team is better than their men's team, they do have a great captain and barbara bandurak, so zambia have everything to play for. do you fear this match coming up?- play for. do you fear this match coming up? i'm fearful of barbara and _ match coming up? i'm fearful of barbara and rachel— match coming up? i'm fearful of barbara and rachel particularly. barbara and rachel particularly — you see how rachel plays in la liga, in spain, and she beats barcelona essentially in the last season, so rachel has beaten her before. i think barbara speaks for herself, essentially, so when you look at the defence, the players... what's your prediction for the match and whether spain can go all the way? 50 match and whether spain can go all the way?— all the way? so the players weren't essentially - all the way? so the players weren't essentially used i all the way? so the players weren't essentially used to | weren't essentially used to playing with each other, so now
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that they are going up against a defence that hasn't necessarily gelled together, its a scary prospect. brute necessarily gelled together, it's a scary prospect. we 'ust wanted to i it's a scary prospect. we 'ust wanted to know i it's a scary prospect. we 'ust wanted to know what i it's a scary prospect. we just wanted to know what your i wanted to know what your prediction for the match is and whether you think spain can go all the way. in whether you think spain can go all the way-— all the way. in the form that they are _ all the way. in the form that they are in. _ all the way. in the form that they are in. i— all the way. in the form that they are in, i genuinely i they are in, i genuinely think they are in, i genuinely think they can, i think the players dust they are lucky to have some of the players they do. these players are probably in some of their best forms right now, and i think that goes further than what's happening off the pitch. she scored against costa rica... bic the against costa rica... 0k. the -la ers against costa rica... 0k. the players have _ against costa rica... 0k. the players have the _ against costa rica... 0k. the players have the potential to go all the way. we players have the potential to go all the way.— players have the potential to go all the way. we will see you soon, go all the way. we will see you soon. thanks — go all the way. we will see you soon, thanks for— go all the way. we will see you soon, thanks for much - go all the way. we will see you soon, thanks for much for- soon, thanks for much for joining us. hello there. here in the uk, it was another quite cool day on tuesday. by contrast, southern europe in sicily — temperatures reached 46 celsius. this is the temperature anomaly map. the blues are where it's
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colder than normal, the reds are where it's hotter than normal. a significant drop in temperature on the way across italy in the next 24—48 hours. the heat lasts a bit longer in greece, but even here, it will be cooler by the end of the weekend, not as windy either. some northern parts of europe have been seeing severe storms. here in the uk, our weather continues to come in from the atlantic, and that cloud that we saw there will bring some rain into western areas on wednesday. further east, maybe a little bit warmer than it was on tuesday. but it will be a chilly start where we have the clearer skies — three celsius in scotland, 6—7 across some southern parts of england and wales. in between, not quite so cold first thing, because there'll be more cloud showers left over from overnight. most of the showers on wednesday will be across northern england, perhaps southern scotland, not as widespread as we saw today. there will be some sunshine, but it does cloud over from the west. rain in northern ireland by lunchtime, over the irish sea
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into wales and the southwest of england during the afternoon. that'll keep the temperatures a bit lower. but ahead of that, with some sunshine for a while across scotland and eastern england, temperatures should be a bit higher than what we had on tuesday. now, this weather front will take that rain eastwards on wednesday night — it means a lot warmer night, actually, but it means quite a cloudy start to thursday, and a bit misty and murky, as well. could hang on to the rain from overnight across northern scotland, it may well linger through the english channel. but elsewhere, as it slowly brightens up and we see a little bit of sunshine, that could trigger a few more sharp showers through the day. there will be a lot of cloud around — it'll feel quite muggy, actually. a warmer day for western areas and again, in the east, temperatures about 23 celsius. quick look ahead to friday — still the chance some showers around, maybe not quite so many. quite a bit to here and there as well. and those temperatures not really changing an awful lot, 23, perhaps 2a in eastern areas, maybe a bit cooler
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it's the start of earnings season for big tech! both alphabet and microsoft have reported profits for the last quarter. all eyes at the us federal reserve as it will release its latest interest rate decision. and, exactly one year away. we look at the economics of the paris olympic games. it's a big week for big tech, both microsoft and alphabet have reported their latest quarterly earnings. and each company saw their profits soar. the two firms are locked in a race to develop artificial intelligence tools. but as my colleague michelle fleury explains, that isn't quite driving future revenue yet.
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