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...in every way as an arm of the kremlin. but they also have their own interests. but ultimately, everything they do goes back to the enrichment of the russian elite. we were discussing before the break the decision to d bank agile garage from the sister bank of natwest. and we said we would talk a little bit more about what sort of changes and reforms banks might be prepared to bring in. thank you for being on the program. there are two issues we're focusing on here. we werejust listening to the countess talking about being d bank because she was politically exposed person. what they perceived that she was. that is quite separate is it not to what
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they did with nigel faraj. first quite separate is it not to what they did with nigel faraj. they did with nigel fara'. first of all bank accounts _ they did with nigel fara'. first of all bank accounts are _ they did with nigel faraj. first of all bank accounts are just - they did with nigel faraj. first of all bank accounts are just bank l all bank accounts are just bank accounts. if we take the coutts's case bank accounts with banks like brcai case bank accounts with banks like brca1 and other banks who have super duper rolls—royce type bank accounts with extra services for people who have a certain amount of money in their accounts. there is the standard bank account that other people have, there's a normal person on the street. now the expensive super—duper bank account requires you to keep a certain amount of money in it to make it viable for the bank. if you fall below that financial level the bank normally takes the view that you then get downgraded to a normal bank account. that's what coutts wanted to do with nigel faraj because they said he didn't have enough money. he effectively said, i don't think that's the real reason, which is why this is the genesis of this whole story. i think there is a critical
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issue about are we talking about someone who is being downgraded in the wealth system with the bank? are we talking about people who are actually being stopped from having a normal bank account? as you say, then we get the politically exposed person. that is an obligation placed on banks by the government in law that says you must make sure that you do not have within your banks assets money that should not be there from people who could possibly be engaged in illegal activity of any type. mil be engaged in illegal activity of an e. ~ ., , , any type. all who themselves could be exposed — any type. all who themselves could be exposed to _ any type. all who themselves could be exposed to bribery... _ any type. all who themselves could be exposed to bribery... so - any type. all who themselves could be exposed to bribery... so that. any type. all who themselves could be exposed to bribery... so that is| be exposed to bribery... so that is a law that is in place to prevent money laundering. and that's an international standard, there banks all around the world that subscribed to that. i want to go back to the first part of it. you talked about whether he had been d bank because
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he didn't meet a particular financial threshold. he didn't meet a particular financialthreshold. i he didn't meet a particular financial threshold. i think we know from the dossier that he managed to get his hands on that is political views have been taken into account by the board for the hat as the ceo who is now the focus for the banks detractors, has he broken any rules in discussing privately, because he didn't leak the fact that they had this discussion. but has he broken the rules in discussing mr faraj is political views? the rules in discussing mr faraj is politicalviews? if the rules in discussing mr faraj is political views? if that decision to cancel his account was taken on the grounds of those political views, is that a breach of the rules? yes. that a breach of the rules? yes, that a breach of the rules? yes, that should _ that a breach of the rules? yes, that should be _ that a breach of the rules? yes, that should be a _ that a breach of the rules? yes, that should be a breach - that a breach of the rules? yes, that should be a breach of- that a breach of the rules? 1&1: that should be a breach of the rules. because the rules say you can bear certain factors in mind but it's essentially a commercial decision. what i suspect happen is that in the meeting that was considering nigel faraj, whoever was sharing it allowed it to go off the rails in terms of keeping it clearly
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focused on commercial criteria with element of pep if he counts as a pep and making the assumption that he probably does. and therefore affectively discussions took place which should not have taken place which should not have taken place which might have influenced the decision. ., ., �* , decision. that not right. briefly, should he still— decision. that not right. briefly, should he still be _ decision. that not right. briefly, should he still be in _ decision. that not right. briefly, should he still be in the - decision. that not right. briefly, should he still be in the job - decision. that not right. briefly, should he still be in the job if i should he still be in thejob if dame allison has had to go at natwest? is there any difference between the two of them? dana allison actually _ between the two of them? dana allison actually breach - between the two of them? dana allison actually breach client - allison actually breach client confidentiality. 50 allison actually breach client confidentiality.— allison actually breach client confidentiality. allison actually breach client confidentiali . , , ., confidentiality. so she is ok to say the bank even _ confidentiality. so she is ok to say the bank even though _ confidentiality. so she is ok to say the bank even though nigel- confidentiality. so she is ok to sayi the bank even though nigel farage confidentiality. so she is ok to say i the bank even though nigel farage is calling? i the bank even though nigel farage is callin: ? ~ ~ the bank even though nigel farage is callinu? ~' ~ ., , , calling? i think the bank absolutely has to in terms _ calling? i think the bank absolutely has to in terms of— calling? i think the bank absolutely has to in terms of what _ calling? i think the bank absolutely has to in terms of what elements l calling? i think the bank absolutely | has to in terms of what elements of that discussion were actually within the guidelines and whether he allowed it to veer off to the point that it was not... allowed it to veer off to the point that it was not. . .— that it was not... and you're confident — that it was not... and you're confident it _ that it was not... and you're confident it would _ that it was not... and you're confident it would not - that it was not... and you're confident it would not be - that it was not... and you're confident it would not be at| that it was not... and you're - confident it would not be at that level because of who were talking about? �* ., , ., .«r ., .,
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about? i'm a shoemaking nigel farage would be pep- — about? i'm a shoemaking nigel farage would be pep. yes. _ about? i'm a shoemaking nigel farage would be pep. yes. i— about? i'm a shoemaking nigel farage would be pep. yes. i promised - about? i'm a shoemaking nigel farage would be pep. yes. i promised our- would be pep. yes. i promised our view is we — would be pep. yes. i promised our view is we would _ would be pep. yes. i promised our view is we would talk _ would be pep. yes. i promised our view is we would talk more - would be pep. yes. i promised our view is we would talk more about i view is we would talk more about the meeting today and what sort of reforms would be put in place. as i say, wejust reforms would be put in place. as i say, we just talked to in adventure coverage is not a politician, there are competitive people in all walks of life that could fall foul of this. those are the people that nigel farage says he is now campaigning for. what can the banks tutor reassure nigel farage? i’m campaigning for. what can the banks tutor reassure nigel farage?- tutor reassure nigel farage? i'm not sure how much _ tutor reassure nigel farage? i'm not sure how much they _ tutor reassure nigel farage? i'm not sure how much they could _ tutor reassure nigel farage? i'm not sure how much they could do - tutor reassure nigel farage? i'm not sure how much they could do to - sure how much they could do to reassure nigel farage. in terms of assuring people they will have access to a bank account rather than in all bells and whistles bank account for that i think that's absolutely critical because as the counter said, you cannot exist without a bank account. one of the issuesis without a bank account. one of the issues is the legal requirement for a politically exposed people. then also there is the decisions about risk and commercial viability. i think what the banks have to do is take a step back with the government
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and consider exactly who really is a pep and what risks do they pose to the bank and what does that do in terms of peoples ability to get a bank account if they happen to be for example a british citizen tried to exist a normal life in this country. they need a bank account. the british chancellor, just to talk about the parameters and where the barrier should be said here. the british chancellorjeremy hunt was turned down for a monza account. i was seriously saying he is a risk of money laundering or bribery or corruption? it depends why monza turned him down. the problem is that as you've discussed all is the veil of confidentiality which to some degree gives the bank a little bit of a blanket to hide behind and say no, confidentiality, we can't tell you. the banks have to tell dues sit
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down with customer bodies and sort this out. this is impacting real people on the high street who cannot get normal bank accounts. and you cannot exist without that. there has to be a complete review of how this happens. i'm more concerned about normal people who can't get bank accounts and they are not told why rather than people who are pep ssoo get downgraded from a rolls—royce bank account to something like the rest of us have to use. that is very clear. thank you for that for the expensive day for natwest. £800 million wipe off stock value today. we will focus on the sport. mark edwards is there for us. we start at the women's world cup where the first teams are into the knockout stages and is this the year that spain go all the way? they booked their place in the last 16, with a group game to spare, after another impressive performance — beating zambia 5—0.
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jenni hermoso and alba redondo scoring twice. but it's back to back 5—0 defeats for zambia — and they are out. and spain will now face japan in the final group match — with top spot up for grabs. japan also made it two wins from two after beating costa rica 2—0 in dunedin. 19—year—old aoba fujino with the second goal to become japan's youngest goalscorer at a women's world cup. canada aren't quite into the knockout stages just yet — but they do have one foot in the last 16 after fighting back to beat ireland. katie mccabe put ireland ahead — but canada turned it around — manchester united winger adriana leon scoring the winner. canada top the group with four points — but it's two defeats from two for ireland — they are out iamjust i am just really proud. i think the first 20 minutes the occasion got to
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them and it was like playing in australia and home again. it's great for the next match but i think second half, that's what i level this team, they did whatever it took win. we know how to win and we did it when it really mattered. i thought the likeness of sophie schmidt, sinclair, they brought the broadly experiencing what it really mattered. i'm super proud. that could be the making of a... on the mend side as we await news kylian and mbappe to saudi arabia. liverpool captain jordan kylian and mbappe to saudi arabia. liverpool captainjordan had to his leaving the club after 12 years with him in a post on social media henderson expected to join saudi club and team up with former teammates. and manager stephen gerard. to cricket and england have named an unchanged side for the fifth and final ashes test against australia — which gets under way tomorrow at the oval. that meansjimmy anderson keeps his place as part of the bowling attack — despite only taking four wickets in the entire series.
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captain, ben stokes, defending the 40—year—olds inclusion, adding thatjoe roots place wouldn't be questioned if he hadn't scored the runs he would have wanted to. he is not probably had a impact in the wickets he would've liked to in the series. he's quality bowler, quite a performer. it's obviously jimmy's come underflak quite a performer. it's obviously jimmy's come under flak for that. so ifjoe hadn't scored the runs he would like to he would be questioning him about staying in the team as a batter. we got james anderson, the greatest fast bowler to play the game. and he still looking as good as he was two years ago. he hasn't had the impact that he would've liked to in this series. well the final test also matters for australia — as they aim to win an ashes series in england for the first time since 2001. they lead the series 2—1 so have already retained the ashes — captain pat cummins insists he and his team—mates have unfinished business. it feels really different here,
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these groups. so we know that it was in our best and at the end of the day it was a bit of a help back for that really feels that job day it was a bit of a help back for that really feels thatjob is not done. halfway through the eight—stage—long tour de france femmes and belgium's lotta kopecky is still in the yellowjersey. halfway through the eight—stage—long tour de france femmes and belgium's lotta kopecky is still in the yellowjersey. finishing 14th. that's enough to keep her in the royal standings with a 43 2nd. the fires in greece are continuing to advance with forecasters warning on the greek islands the weather conditions make it particularly dangerous. high temperatures are combining with fierce winds where the fires are now spreading much further. currently the heatwave shows no sign of a let up so you
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will see the dark colours on the map year, the areas of the mediterranean most at risk from fire. in portugal the firefighters and local residents battled through the night to save homes on the outskirts of lisbon. this woman in sicily had a terrifying drive as you can see through the flames. this is their palermo with a couple in their 70s were found dead in their burnt out holiday home. a citizen of roads and she has been coordinating volunteers on the island who are helping to put out the fires since they started last week. thank you for being with us. i said the weather is not helping much. what are you doing it to slow the advance of the fire? or is not an impossible task at the moment? ., , , �* ,, moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living — moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living in _ moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living in a _ moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living in a hell— moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living in a hell the _ moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living in a hell the last - moment? honestly, we're hopeless. we're living in a hell the last ten - we're living in a hell the last ten days, i must say that. our
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volunteers and obviously the authorities and the soldiers are doing the best they can. i moved in the capital city of athens from yesterday night in order to publish every media our situation and ask for help. it wasn't enough. you don't think— for help. it wasn't enough. you don't think the _ for help. it wasn't enough. you don't think the greek government has given enough help so far? i don't think the greek government has given enough help so far?— given enough help so far? i mean, it's obvious. _ given enough help so far? i mean, it's obvious, where _ given enough help so far? i mean, it's obvious, where getting - given enough help so far? i mean, | it's obvious, where getting burned. there are more than 150,000 cases of land already burned in an island that has offered so many in the situation in greece generally. we're disappointed. we're angry, sad all of our properties are burned. a forest, the houses of our dear and
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there's nothing to describe what we have lived the last ten days. the message we want to share with the world is mostly that it is not our authority to judge anybody at the moment. it doesn't help us as well. what we need is more volunteers for them or if europe is out there, if cypresses out there, we haven't been helped as much for the we cannot the fire alone. we cannot extinguish the fire... ., . , fire alone. we cannot extinguish the fire... ., ., , ., , fire alone. we cannot extinguish the fire... ., ., , ., fire alone. we cannot extinguish the fire... ., . , ., , ., fire... how many volunteers do you have? we're _ fire. .. how many volunteers do you have? we're all— fire... how many volunteers do you have? we're all volunteers. - fire... how many volunteers do you have? we're all volunteers. how. fire... how many volunteers do you i have? we're all volunteers. how many of ou? have? we're all volunteers. how many of you? everybody _ have? we're all volunteers. how many of you? everybody in _ have? we're all volunteers. how many of you? everybody in the _ have? we're all volunteers. how many of you? everybody in the island - have? we're all volunteers. how many of you? everybody in the island do - of you? everybody in the island do as much as we can. from the first day we're more than actively 10,000. the fires are everywhere. and they
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don't stop. our biggest fear is where we lived at the moment. we want to finish with this nightmare tonight before the night comes. as you said the winds are coming up again. this morning we set alarms that we're in extreme danger. the fire literally is three villages away from the city center. and we don't have electricity. there are eight lot of issues that we have to handle. i must say, it showed already but even transportation of the taurus, the british people, their hospitality in our houses, we provide the medication, everything we did buy ourselves for the first four days until the local
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authorities started the evacuation. it's hellish now. my heart goes out to you, it really does. what are you facing? there were islands economy is entirely reliant on tourism. there must be a concern there that once the fires are out... there's a danger people do not come back. for sure. danger people do not come back. fr?" sure. first of all, we must thank every british person who witnessed exactly what we did for them. so everybody showed the greatest message is for us. everybody said the greek hospitality and humanity saw was a huge message to the world. of course it's a message to the authorities that if the taurus or visitors don't feel safe any more it is not in our hands. at the moment i
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think they arejust is not in our hands. at the moment i think they are just fighting each other. the government with the local authority because the government says we gave you the money that you needed to be ready for any case like this. and the local authorities are fighting back to the government that they haven't sent enough help for they haven't sent enough help for the buyers. the fires are massive obviously, out—of—control situation. we don't play this game, it's our houses are already burned. our houses, properties, my business, everybody we suffered the most faulty forest, for our animals. we know we cannot save it. we will need years to do it again.— years to do it again. let's hope that it there _ years to do it again. let's hope that it there is _ years to do it again. let's hope that it there is solidarity - years to do it again. let's hope that it there is solidarity out i that it there is solidarity out there and people come out there again. there and people come out there aaain. ., ~' ,, there and people come out there aaain. . ~ i. . there and people come out there aaain. . ~ . ., again. thank you so much for giving us time to share _ again. thank you so much for giving
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us time to share this _ again. thank you so much for giving us time to share this if— us time to share this if you actually allow me we would like also to communicate for greeks all over the place that they might have heard as now that we need medication as well for our volunteers. we need masks eyes, because we don't have electricity and ice is needed for the volunteers from the islands that are around us and we have not enough people at the moment to go and fight the fire. imagine that for nine days and nights the same volunteer teams are working to this. obviously, though women cannot help on that. we hear you. and we have huge sympathy for what you are going through at the moment. people are out there and if they can help and have the ability to help please do respond. in the volunteers out there in
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rhodes facing hellish conditions right now. thank you. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bbc news — bringing you different stories from across the uk. so mason and bastion are both autistic bastions currently now going through a process for adhd as well. for eight years, emma has been campaigning to get more changing places toilets built because poor facilities has often meant leaving home could be a problem. we would go out and we'd make fun of the children would make a mess. we'd have to come home straightaway. when emma started her campaign in norfolk, there were just four changing places. and many in norfolk now 24. 24 at the moment. yep. and more coming. more coming. it should be 31 in the next couple of years, but still not enough. never know. there'll never be enough until it's people can go out and not have
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to think about going somewhere because of the changing places. the issue of facilities for people with disabilities is a big one. and now a report has highlighted the spending power of disabled people. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. a court here in the uk has overturned a convention of a man who would serve 17 years in prison for crime he did not commit. in would serve 17 years in prison for crime he did not commit. in 2000 and for andrew malkinson _ crime he did not commit. in 2000 and for andrew malkinson was _ crime he did not commit. in 2000 and for andrew malkinson was convicted . for andrew malkinson was convicted of rate and sentenced to life with a minimum of 13 years with him he served a further ten years in jail because he refers to the back refused to and fast to the crime. he maintained it was a case of mistaken identity. it is obvious that he will say that he looks nothing like the photo that the police are published. there was no dna evidence linking him to the crime
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and the victims evidence, that she had been attacked by a man with a shiny bare chest, did not fit the profile of a man who was largely covered in hair. his case was referred to the court of appeal in january after new evidence pointed to another potential suspect. and today when his conviction was quashed mr malkinson said it is taken nearly 20 years to persuade my kidnappers to let me go. 17 years, four months was spent in prison. at every parole hearing i sat before a panel who shook their heads at me considering me to be dangerous. in all that time the real perpetrator, the real dangers present was free. is been waiting patiently for us. thank you for standing by for us tonight while we talked to the lady in rhodes. when you list the problems with that you are bound to
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ask first why he would be convicted on the evidence in the first place but why then it took so long for the court of appeal to hear it?- court of appeal to hear it? that's a basic question, _ court of appeal to hear it? that's a basic question, i _ court of appeal to hear it? that's a basic question, i quite _ court of appeal to hear it? that's a basic question, i quite agree. i i basic question, i quite agree. i just want to reflect for a moment and stepped back. one has to remember that the court of appeals itself had a different name at the time at the beginning of the century, it set up because of the risk of unreliable convictions on the back of unreliable identification evidence. that was the whole for the court itself. and this case is a shocking example of why in the first place at the trial this man should never, never have been convicted. because it was recognised after the setting up of the court itself in the beginning of the court itself in the beginning of the last century that identification was one of the most unreliable areas and what i think you did mention in
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that resume was the key to this conviction was the identification by two witnesses, with the victim set at the moment, two witnesses. of course what the jury had to be assessing was it wanting for the victim to say something, she may have been overwrought, she may have got it wrong. but there were two witnesses. and the whole conviction was based on the two witnesses. what is really flagrant here is that those two witnesses had between them 16 convictions for 38 offensive. and one of them was addicted to heroin at the time when all this was happening. and there for in relation to that, who had the information? the answer is pretty solid, isn't it? it's gotta be the prosecuting authorities. in particular the
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police would've had that information. through the trial, through the first appeal, through the attempts to get it to the referral commission itself. that is where the gravity of this situation comes back to nondisclosure and in fact they must�*ve known they were the only people who would've known the only people who would've known the full picture.— the full picture. we're on the clock and have two _ the full picture. we're on the clock and have two minutes _ the full picture. we're on the clock and have two minutes left. - the full picture. we're on the clock and have two minutes left. i- the full picture. we're on the clock and have two minutes left. i wantl the full picture. we're on the clock i and have two minutes left. i want to get through some things quickly. do you think there are broader concerns that even if they have access to the dna data that could only two overturned enunciate verdict they don't necessarily use a? tile. overturned enunciate verdict they don't necessarily use a?— don't necessarily use a? no, they don't necessarily use a? no, they don't use it- _ don't necessarily use a? no, they don't use it. the _ don't necessarily use a? no, they don't use it. the fact _ don't necessarily use a? no, they don't use it. the fact is _ don't necessarily use a? no, they don't use it. the fact is this i don't use it. the fact is this could've been much earlier. i want to make one of the part that's not be made at all, this conviction could have been avoided but only if you had honest policing but they used to be a rule that unreliable evidence, not all required
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corroboration. in other words, evidence, not all required corroboration. in otherwords, if the only evidence is eyewitness, if you get my point here, if it's so evident that one type of evidence that has to be corroboration and a jury that has to be corroboration and a jury should be warned against conviction if there is no cooperation.— conviction if there is no cooperation. conviction if there is no cooeration. ., , ., cooperation. do you worry there are other cases — cooperation. do you worry there are other cases like _ cooperation. do you worry there are other cases like this _ cooperation. do you worry there are other cases like this altare? - cooperation. do you worry there are other cases like this altare? yes. i l other cases like this altare? yes. i do very much- _ other cases like this altare? yes. i do very much- i — other cases like this altare? yes. i do very much. ithink— other cases like this altare? yes. i do very much. i think this - other cases like this altare? yes. i do very much. i think this is i do very much. i think this is uncovered a situation in which the system is held up to the light and there are stains all over it.- there are stains all over it. really interesting- _ there are stains all over it. really interesting. sorry _ there are stains all over it. really interesting. sorry to _ there are stains all over it. really interesting. sorry to cut - there are stains all over it. really interesting. sorry to cut you i there are stains all over it. reallyl interesting. sorry to cut you short. good to talk to you this evening. if you want to read more about that it is there on the website for that plenty of detail on it with implications for the criminal court in this country. also in the next hour were going to check about how biden, the presidents on himself as beenin biden, the presidents on himself as been in court today. we will talk
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about police. should they be looking after people with mental health issues? and where is the barrier on that? what sort of cases should they not be looking after? that is coming up. hello. wednesday did bring us a bit of blue sky and sunshine, particularly for many northern and eastern parts of the uk. but really, july 2023 is turning out to be a pretty soggy month for much of the uk. and there's more rain overnight tonight, moving from west to east. quite a humid feel to the weather tonight certainly compared to recent nights. here is that area of rain through this evening, then across scotland, central and eastern parts of england, slowly moving northwards and eastward. so something a little bit clearer for northern ireland, perhaps during the early hours of thursday, pushing in across western parts of britain, too. but a lot of low cloud, humid air with us, so temperatures staying in the mid—teens for most of us. a little bit cooler for the north of scotland, down into single figures up towards the northern
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isles. but we start thursday then under the influence of this area of low pressure. it sits well to the northwest, but these trailing weather fronts will be slow—moving across parts of scotland, initially close to southern england, as well. so i think rain easing away from the south, but perhaps persisting for the channel islands. the northeast of scotland will keep patchy rain all day. elsewhere, murky, low cloud, drizzle around through the morning, but brightening up gradually, so some sunny spells for the afternoon and a few showers around, too. some sunshine perhaps for northern ireland into parts of northern england and wales. temperatures 16—24 for most of us, again, a little cooler for the northern isles, but it is, of course, the first day of the fifth and final test in the men's ashes at the oval — lots of cloud around there in general. could be a passing afternoon sharp shower, i think, but not persistent rains, so there should be plenty of play, as there should be as we head into friday, as well. now, overnight, then, into friday, most of the showers fade away, mostly dry, just some rain lingering up towards the northern isles. but again, it's a humid night, so temperatures for most of us sitting in the mid—teens. that's how we start friday morning,
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some sunshine from the word go. it will be the better day, i think, of thursday and friday. so, yes, it's still a few showers, but more sunshine around, and the showers will move through fairly quickly. top temperatures, a little bit warmer than recent days, 18—24 celsius. still a bit colder than that, though, for lerwick, sitting there atjust 15. into the weekend, low pressure drifts eastwards across the northern half of the uk, plenty of showers wrapped around the area of low pressure. we've got another one actually waiting out in the wings, as well. so an unsettled picture, fairly blustery weekend, showers around, a bit drier in the south perhaps on sunday. nothing really drier and warmer, though, till the second week of august. bye— bye.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. in the last hour, the breaking news — the irish singer and activist sin ad o'connor has died at the aged of 56.
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president biden son hunter biden has pleaded not guilty to two tax offence charges. welcome back to the programme. we're going deal with the recent news of the passing of sinead o'connor. but first tonight. the irish singer sinead o'connor — who was best know for her number one single, nothing compares to you — has died. she was 56. in a statement, her family said they were "devastated" by the loss of their "beloved sinead". our arts correspondent, david sillito, has been looking back at her life: # since you been gone i can do whatever i want
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# i can see whomever i choose...

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