tv The Context BBC News August 1, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm BST
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without human—induced climate change. southern europe sweltered — in temperatures above a0 degrees celsius — in spain, greece, italy and beyond. in the us — phoenix arizona recorded a record streak of temperatures. canada — no stranger to wildfires — saw four times as much [and burned than in any other similar period since 1990. that's 20 million acres scorched — with smoke spreading across the border into the us. further south — in uruguay — there's drought, on the banks of the river plate. it's the worst period of extreme heat and low rainfall — in fact — in 7a years. and in asia — a different problem — intense rain — causing floods and landslides across several countries including india, japan and — most recently — china — as powerful monsoons sweep across the continent. a warmer atmosphere holds more water — say the scientists — and that means global warming makes
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flooding — more likely. kezia dougdale — john smith centre, a research body. and also former leader of scottish labour party. doug high — republican party strategist in the us. hello to you both, right, let's tackle this issue of climate change. let's start with you. it's been extraordinary month injuly and what is your take on it? it extraordinary month in july and what is your take on it?— is your take on it? it shows the extent of _ is your take on it? it shows the extent of the _ is your take on it? it shows the extent of the damage - is your take on it? it shows the extent of the damage that - is your take on it? it shows the i extent of the damage that climate changes during the countries across the globe in europe, we have seen intense heat waves across much of the mediterranean era and temperatures rising as high as 45 and 46 degrees celsius in some places. in the records in fact, this kind of playing to the political agenda in the not—too—distant future
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in the united kingdom is expecting a general election between now and january 2025. most people think it's going to be next october and could be as soon as may and would like this year, climate change is going to be very poorly served and political parties currently but the climate change commitments in response to a higher cost of living challenges that we are facing. petulance between the face of it, people as well as the climate? . it people as well as the climate? v it is the question washington as well and we _ is the question washington as well and we have a divided congress house of representatives is controlled by republicans in the senate by democrats and the president is a democrat— democrats and the president is a democrat in the mix of hard for things— democrat in the mix of hard for things to — democrat in the mix of hard for things to get through but we often see is_ things to get through but we often see is the — things to get through but we often see is the administration whether it is republican or democratic, have a deal with_ is republican or democratic, have a deal with implementing various regulations pretty good example of this that _ regulations pretty good example of this that congress is facing is the cafe standard meaning what is the
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requirements for this and what we see is— requirements for this and what we see is an — requirements for this and what we see is an administration in the democratic senate that wants to increase — democratic senate that wants to increase the number to be good for climate _ increase the number to be good for climate but — increase the number to be good for climate but the reality is, republicans not as representatives are going _ republicans not as representatives are going to put a stop on that because i_ are going to put a stop on that because ijuts up the cost of cars and the — because ijuts up the cost of cars and the price of cars of gone up a great deai— and the price of cars of gone up a great deal used cars and used cars under_ great deal used cars and used cars under covert —— new cars and that is something _ under covert —— new cars and that is something republicans want to do and it's climate _ something republicans want to do and it's climate versus economics. michael bloss — mep from alliance 90/the greens in germany. the green party in germany has maintained a big presence for a long time in germany and a difficult challenge of balancing economics with the climate, how do you think we're doing? we with the climate, how do you think we're doing?—
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with the climate, how do you think we're doinu ? ~ v, v, , v, we're doing? we have to understand that the rights _ we're doing? we have to understand that the rights of _ we're doing? we have to understand that the rights of price _ we're doing? we have to understand that the rights of price inflation - that the rights of price inflation this and — that the rights of price inflation this and inflation _ that the rights of price inflation this and inflation caused - that the rights of price inflation this and inflation caused by- that the rights of price inflation this and inflation caused by thei this and inflation caused by the rise of— this and inflation caused by the rise of gas, _ this and inflation caused by the rise of gas, oil— this and inflation caused by the rise of gas, oil and _ this and inflation caused by the rise of gas, oil and because - this and inflation caused by the| rise of gas, oil and because the war on ukraine — rise of gas, oil and because the war on ukraine and— rise of gas, oil and because the war on ukraine and the _ rise of gas, oil and because the war on ukraine and the best _ rise of gas, oil and because the war on ukraine and the best way- rise of gas, oil and because the war on ukraine and the best way to - rise of gas, oil and because the wari on ukraine and the best way to bring prices down — on ukraine and the best way to bring prices down is — on ukraine and the best way to bring prices down is moving _ on ukraine and the best way to bring prices down is moving away- on ukraine and the best way to bring prices down is moving away and - prices down is moving away and moving — prices down is moving away and moving towards _ prices down is moving away and moving towards renewable - prices down is moving away and - moving towards renewable energies because _ moving towards renewable energies because they — moving towards renewable energies because they are _ moving towards renewable energies because they are cheaper— moving towards renewable energies because they are cheaper than - moving towards renewable energies because they are cheaper than gas i moving towards renewable energies. because they are cheaper than gas or oil. because they are cheaper than gas or oii~ poiiticai— because they are cheaper than gas or oil. political opponents _ because they are cheaper than gas or oil. political opponents wasn't - oil. political opponents wasn't portrayed _ oil. political opponents wasn't portrayed as _ oil. political opponents wasn't portrayed as climate - oil. political opponents wasn't portrayed as climate policies i oil. political opponents wasn't i portrayed as climate policies of a costly— portrayed as climate policies of a costly but — portrayed as climate policies of a costly but the _ portrayed as climate policies of a costly but the opposite _ portrayed as climate policies of a costly but the opposite is - portrayed as climate policies of a costly but the opposite is true. . portrayed as climate policies of a l costly but the opposite is true. not acting _ costly but the opposite is true. not acting it's — costly but the opposite is true. not acting it's the — costly but the opposite is true. not acting it's the climate _ costly but the opposite is true. not acting it's the climate crisis - costly but the opposite is true. not acting it's the climate crisis is - acting it's the climate crisis is much — acting it's the climate crisis is much more _ acting it's the climate crisis is much more expensive - acting it's the climate crisis is much more expensive than i acting it's the climate crisis is - much more expensive than tackling it. ., much more expensive than tackling it. . , ., ., ., much more expensive than tackling it. that is a great argument and let's ut it. that is a great argument and let's put that — it. that is a great argument and let's put that to _ it. that is a great argument and let's put that to her, _ it. that is a great argument and let's put that to her, if - it. that is a great argument and let's put that to her, if that - it. that is a great argument and let's put that to her, if that is l let's put that to her, if that is true, why doesn't the labour party and conservative partyjust adopted? there is no doubt it's true, it's absolutely right, the cost of not acting as far greater than the cost of we are currently faced with just
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now. you have to move away from fossil fuels and invest in renewable energy. but when the rubber it's the root, the reality is, a general election is looking at the political offer things like venting gas boilers analysis, getting rid of petrol and diesel cars, these policies although they are the right thing to do for the planet, they are unpopular with voters, particularly income voters were heavily reliant on the course to get to work, for example and we cannot afford to do this, they do not have the disposable income doesn't look like the government is interested in subsidising the types of policies he would need to have people transition away from fossil fuels. as may be the general election is going to be, political parties want to be popular but there's not enough love he can do right now today to achieve those
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targets. it is the prime minister has talked about gas licenses this week, focusing on reducing the cost—of—living. let week, focusing on reducing the cost-of-living._ week, focusing on reducing the cost-of-living. let us take into the us, what cost-of-living. let us take into the us, what do _ cost-of-living. let us take into the us. what do you — cost-of-living. let us take into the us, what do you make _ cost-of-living. let us take into the us, what do you make of- cost-of-living. let us take into the us, what do you make of joe - cost-of-living. let us take into the l us, what do you make of joe biden's us, what do you make ofjoe biden's attends to have green energy to green jobs and tie that economic benefit of cleantech? he green jobs and tie that economic benefit of cleantech?— green jobs and tie that economic benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and _ benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and try — benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and try to _ benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and try to do _ benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and try to do that - benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and try to do that in - benefit of cleantech? he trying to do that and try to do that in this l do that and try to do that in this many breadsticks as possible, these are jobs— many breadsticks as possible, these are jobs that can be created in their— are jobs that can be created in their districts but it comes to this point _ their districts but it comes to this point that— their districts but it comes to this point that was previously discussed and that— point that was previously discussed and that voters do not like these activities — and that voters do not like these activities. today in the united states. — activities. today in the united states, august one, it's the first day that— states, august one, it's the first day that incandescent light bulbs are not— day that incandescent light bulbs are not illegal. people like the light— are not illegal. people like the light bulbs reducing the debate on whether— light bulbs reducing the debate on whether or not cast—offs will be banned — whether or not cast—offs will be banned in— whether or not cast—offs will be banned in certain states, people of the gas _ banned in certain states, people of the gas stoves and they don't want them _ the gas stoves and they don't want them removed from the kitchen or buy
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a new— them removed from the kitchen or buy a new house _ them removed from the kitchen or buy a new house we want to have gas ovens _ a new house we want to have gas ovens and — a new house we want to have gas ovens and stoves there, they do not like his— ovens and stoves there, they do not like his regulations and these are short—term economic woes regardless of these _ short—term economic woes regardless of these long—term economic benefits that come _ of these long—term economic benefits that come from this and it is a part of the tug—of—war that we see here. looking _ of the tug—of—war that we see here. looking at _ of the tug—of—war that we see here. looking at other european countries and the us are you optimistic or pessimistic?— and the us are you optimistic or essimistic? ~ ., �* ~' pessimistic? will, i don't think we can afford to _ pessimistic? will, i don't think we can afford to be _ pessimistic? will, i don't think we can afford to be pessimistic - pessimistic? will, i don't think we can afford to be pessimistic but i pessimistic? will, i don't think we can afford to be pessimistic but it| can afford to be pessimistic but it does _ can afford to be pessimistic but it does not — can afford to be pessimistic but it does not look— can afford to be pessimistic but it does not look very— can afford to be pessimistic but it does not look very optimistic- can afford to be pessimistic but it. does not look very optimistic either and you _ does not look very optimistic either and you look— does not look very optimistic either and you took at _ does not look very optimistic either and you look at rishi _ does not look very optimistic either and you look at rishi sunak- and you look at rishi sunak announcing _ and you look at rishi sunak announcing that— and you look at rishi sunak announcing that he - and you look at rishi sunak announcing that he wants l and you look at rishi sunakl announcing that he wants to and you look at rishi sunak- announcing that he wants to open up announcing that he wants to open up a new— announcing that he wants to open up a new gas— announcing that he wants to open up a new gas and — announcing that he wants to open up a new gas and oil— announcing that he wants to open up a new gas and oil and _ announcing that he wants to open up a new gas and oil and i— announcing that he wants to open up a new gas and oil and i will— announcing that he wants to open up a new gas and oil and i will for- a new gas and oil and i will for sure _ a new gas and oil and i will for sure need _ a new gas and oil and i will for sure need to _ a new gas and oil and i will for sure need to was _ a new gas and oil and i will for sure need to was not - a new gas and oil and i will for sure need to was not being. a new gas and oil and i will for. sure need to was not being able a new gas and oil and i will for- sure need to was not being able to reach _ sure need to was not being able to reach 15— sure need to was not being able to reach 15 in— sure need to was not being able to reach 15 in the _ sure need to was not being able to reach 1.5 in the paris— sure need to was not being able to reach 1.5 in the paris agreement. reach 1.5 in the paris agreement with mixes — reach 1.5 in the paris agreement with mixes optimistic— reach 1.5 in the paris agreement with mixes optimistic is - reach 1.5 in the paris agreement with mixes optimistic is the - reach 1.5 in the paris agreement with mixes optimistic is the cost reach 1.5 in the paris agreement. with mixes optimistic is the cost of producing — with mixes optimistic is the cost of producing energy— with mixes optimistic is the cost of producing energy from _ with mixes optimistic is the cost of producing energy from wind - with mixes optimistic is the cost of producing energy from wind and i producing energy from wind and
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solar, _ producing energy from wind and solar, it's— producing energy from wind and solar, it's going _ producing energy from wind and solar, it's going down _ producing energy from wind and solar, it's going down and - producing energy from wind and - solar, it's going down and becoming solar, it's going down and becoming so cheap— solar, it's going down and becoming so cheap that — solar, it's going down and becoming so cheap that it's _ solar, it's going down and becoming so cheap that it's just _ solar, it's going down and becoming so cheap that it'sjust better- so cheap that it'sjust better economic— so cheap that it'sjust better economic decisions- so cheap that it'sjust better economic decisions and - so cheap that it'sjust better. economic decisions and choices so cheap that it'sjust better- economic decisions and choices to go green _ economic decisions and choices to go green and _ economic decisions and choices to go green and i_ economic decisions and choices to go green and i think— economic decisions and choices to go green and i think the _ economic decisions and choices to go green and i think the dynamic- economic decisions and choices to go green and i think the dynamic will. green and i think the dynamic will be faster— green and i think the dynamic will be faster the _ green and i think the dynamic will be faster the movie _ green and i think the dynamic will be faster the movie is— green and i think the dynamic will be faster the movie is seen. - green and i think the dynamic will be faster the movie is seen. sta“ be faster the movie is seen. stay right there _ be faster the movie is seen. stay right there and _ be faster the movie is seen. stay right there and were _ be faster the movie is seen. lilia- right there and were going be faster the movie is seen. right there and were going to be faster the movie is seen.- right there and were going to come back to all three of you in just a moment but around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. driving in instructor knows about traffic can be stopped till it was never made for this volume of traffic with more cars on the road, do not know the answer is just a best zoning plan is prepped for by the previous administration and it will be divided into five zones made to existing to bypass the ring road.
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motorists remember drive around for the event across the city to go between zones. in crossing boundaries. the idea is to get people out of their cars and travelled by foot or public transport instead. of the new leadership of the county counsel is reviewing the scheme which is a way of saying it will be scrapped. balancing the needs of motorists and the need to protect the planet is becoming a big political issue at the planet is becoming a big political issue for conservatives, extending the omissions owned by the mayor of london. —— zones. you're live with bbc news. rishi sunak has insisted his plans to "max out" the uk's oil and gas reserves are "evidently" sensible as he faced a growing backlash for allegedly betraying climate pledges. conservative colleagues observed but that, former minister says you're on
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the wrong side of history, are you or is he, the former minister who actually signed the net zero pledge? he also wrote up report praising the governments leadership on climate change _ governments leadership on climate change that i'm grateful for that but it's— change that i'm grateful for that but it's about strengthening energy security— but it's about strengthening energy security and assessment say that even _ security and assessment say that even when — security and assessment say that even when we meet med zero, on of her energy— even when we meet med zero, on of her energy needs will still come from _ her energy needs will still come from oil— her energy needs will still come from oil and gas and where we get that from? — from oil and gas and where we get that from? i think it is more sensible _ that from? i think it is more sensible to get that from your at home _ sensible to get that from your at home. why perspective is better for energy— home. why perspective is better for energy security because we don't have _ energy security because we don't have to _ energy security because we don't have to rely on foreign dictators and is _ have to rely on foreign dictators and is part— have to rely on foreign dictators and is part of the economy because it supports— and is part of the economy because it supportsjobs, better for it supports jobs, better for services _ it supportsjobs, better for services like nhs and bella pay for it to be _ services like nhs and bella pay for it to be better for carbon emissions is to prevent the ship that energies are from _ is to prevent the ship that energies are from around the world, have three _ are from around the world, have three or— are from around the world, have three or four times the emissions and any— three or four times the emissions and any which way but we are doing is the _ and any which way but we are doing is the right— and any which way but we are doing is the right thing for the country needs— is the right thing for the country needs a pragmatic thing and that is i will continue to deliver it.
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get a sense of the public mood of all this. jemma conner — research manager in the political and social research team at yougov — a public opinion data company. talk as to where the public are right now i know these issues around climate change the politics and paying for it. taste climate change the politics and paying for it— climate change the politics and -a in: forit.~ . ., paying for it. we always ask what the most important _ paying for it. we always ask what the most important issues - paying for it. we always ask what the most important issues are i paying for it. we always ask what. the most important issues are facing the most important issues are facing the country right now the latest data puts them on the list of the third and the environment in the top three issues. the third and the environment in the top three issues— three issues. the top three issues and has been _ three issues. the top three issues and has been the _ three issues. the top three issues and has been the change - three issues. the top three issues and has been the change over- three issues. the top three issues and has been the change over the| and has been the change over the last few years?— last few years? every start, to 7% were listing _ last few years? every start, to 7% were listing the _
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last few years? every start, to 7% were listing the environment - last few years? every start, to 7% were listing the environment in i last few years? every start, to 796. were listing the environment in the top three and, now it's regularly in third and fourth on the tractor. that is a significant rise in the political agenda. what about specifics, people confronted with actually having to pay more for their old vehicles on the road or other perceived costs? to bounce it out, do they change their opinion? if you look at the overall and 2050, they support the target and the democratic groups. find they support the target and the democratic groups.— they support the target and the democratic groups. and even the olitical democratic groups. and even the political divide _ democratic groups. and even the political divide which _ democratic groups. and even the political divide which is _ democratic groups. and even the political divide which is quite - democratic groups. and even the political divide which is quite rare in his political circles of the moment if you boil it down individual policies, and a different story could support if you at softer actions, people wanting to see cleaner spaces, there be to switch to a cleaner energy supply if you take that further and start imposing more drastic action, that we see
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that actually support for these things drops. this restaurant correlation between the policy and peoples willingness to do something in support for policy and how much impact that would have on their personal lives. michael bloss — mep from alliance 90/the greens in germany. moving from general support to the initiatives and general ambitions to actually have a concrete support for the sordid decisions? ext} actually have a concrete support for the sordid decisions?— the sordid decisions? 50 design olicies in the sordid decisions? 50 design policies in the _ the sordid decisions? 50 design policies in the way _ the sordid decisions? 50 design policies in the way that - the sordid decisions? 50 design policies in the way that benefits peopie — policies in the way that benefits peopie and _ policies in the way that benefits peopie and peopie _ policies in the way that benefits people and people are - policies in the way that benefits people and people are hesitantl policies in the way that benefits l people and people are hesitant or sceptical— people and people are hesitant or sceptical because _ people and people are hesitant or sceptical because they _ people and people are hesitant or sceptical because they wonder- people and people are hesitant or sceptical because they wonder inl sceptical because they wonder in it's justified. _ sceptical because they wonder in it'sjustified, how— sceptical because they wonder in it's justified, how much - sceptical because they wonder in it's justified, how much does - sceptical because they wonder in it'sjustified, how much does it. it'sjustified, how much does it cost _ it'sjustified, how much does it cost them _ it'sjustified, how much does it cost them and _ it'sjustified, how much does it cost them and in _ it'sjustified, how much does it cost them and in a _ it'sjustified, how much does it cost them and in a way- it'sjustified, how much does it cost them and in a way that. it'sjustified, how much does it- cost them and in a way that actually benefits _ cost them and in a way that actually benefits them — cost them and in a way that actually benefits them and _ cost them and in a way that actually benefits them and for— cost them and in a way that actually benefits them and for instance, - benefits them and for instance, making — benefits them and for instance, making it — benefits them and for instance, making it very— benefits them and for instance, making it very easy _ benefits them and for instance, making it very easy to - benefits them and for instance, making it very easy to collect. benefits them and for instance, . making it very easy to collect your
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own soiar — making it very easy to collect your own solar panels _ making it very easy to collect your own solar panels are _ making it very easy to collect your own solar panels are subsidising l own solar panels are subsidising them _ own solar panels are subsidising them on — own solar panels are subsidising them on the _ own solar panels are subsidising them on the roof. _ own solar panels are subsidising them on the roof. a— own solar panels are subsidising them on the roof. a huge - own solar panels are subsidising. them on the roof. a huge scheme own solar panels are subsidising - them on the roof. a huge scheme for solar panels — them on the roof. a huge scheme for solar panels on — them on the roof. a huge scheme for solar panels on balconies _ them on the roof. a huge scheme for solar panels on balconies for - them on the roof. a huge scheme for solar panels on balconies for peoplel solar panels on balconies for people who rent— solar panels on balconies for people who rent flats _ solar panels on balconies for people who rent flats. so, _ solar panels on balconies for people who rent flats. so, they— solar panels on balconies for people who rent flats. so, they can - solar panels on balconies for people who rent flats. so, they can be - who rent flats. so, they can be something _ who rent flats. so, they can be something and _ who rent flats. so, they can be something and banning - who rent flats. so, they can be something and banning gas- who rent flats. so, they can be - something and banning gas boilers occurs— something and banning gas boilers occurs right — something and banning gas boilers occurs right away. _ something and banning gas boilers occurs right away. but _ something and banning gas boilers occurs right away. but we're - something and banning gas boilers occurs right away. but we're trying| occurs right away. but we're trying to do _ occurs right away. but we're trying to do and — occurs right away. but we're trying to do and misreported _ occurs right away. but we're trying to do and misreported and - to do and misreported and performances, _ to do and misreported and performances, taking - to do and misreported and performances, taking the i to do and misreported and - performances, taking the audit as and build — performances, taking the audit as and build a — performances, taking the audit as and build a new— performances, taking the audit as and build a new house _ performances, taking the audit as and build a new house and - performances, taking the audit as and build a new house and use . and build a new house and use gas and build a new house and use gas and if— and build a new house and use gas and if a _ and build a new house and use gas and if a heat — and build a new house and use gas and if a heat pump— and build a new house and use gas and if a heat pump instead - and build a new house and use gas and if a heat pump instead of- and build a new house and use gas and if a heat pump instead of a - and build a new house and use gas. and if a heat pump instead of a more cost—effective in _ and if a heat pump instead of a more cost—effective in the _ and if a heat pump instead of a more cost—effective in the long _ and if a heat pump instead of a more cost—effective in the long term - and if a heat pump instead of a more cost—effective in the long term and l cost—effective in the long term and banning _ cost—effective in the long term and banning cars. — cost—effective in the long term and banning cars, were _ cost—effective in the long term and banning cars, were not _ cost—effective in the long term and banning cars, were not talking - cost—effective in the long term and i banning cars, were not talking about banning _ banning cars, were not talking about banning cars— banning cars, were not talking about banning cars on— banning cars, were not talking about banning cars on the _ banning cars, were not talking about banning cars on the road _ banning cars, were not talking about banning cars on the road from - banning cars, were not talking about banning cars on the road from 2035' banning cars on the road from 2035 onwards. _ banning cars on the road from 2035 onwards. there _ banning cars on the road from 2035 onwards, there will— banning cars on the road from 2035 onwards, there will only— banning cars on the road from 2035 onwards, there will only be - banning cars on the road from 2035 onwards, there will only be new - onwards, there will only be new types _ onwards, there will only be new types of— onwards, there will only be new types of course _ onwards, there will only be new types of course allowed - onwards, there will only be new types of course allowed and - onwards, there will only be new types of course allowed and i i onwards, there will only be new i types of course allowed and i think when _ types of course allowed and i think when i _ types of course allowed and i think when i get — types of course allowed and i think when i get doing _ types of course allowed and i think when i get doing very— types of course allowed and i think
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when i get doing very harsh- types of course allowed and i thinkl when i get doing very harsh policies in the _ when i get doing very harsh policies in the climate — when i get doing very harsh policies in the climate crisis _ when i get doing very harsh policies in the climate crisis is _ when i get doing very harsh policies in the climate crisis is getting - in the climate crisis is getting harsher— in the climate crisis is getting harsher and _ in the climate crisis is getting harsher and maybe _ in the climate crisis is getting harsher and maybe that - in the climate crisis is getting harsher and maybe that will i in the climate crisis is getting i harsher and maybe that will also create _ harsher and maybe that will also create more _ harsher and maybe that will also create more support— harsher and maybe that will also create more support for- harsher and maybe that will also create more support for more i harsher and maybe that will also i create more support for more harsher ciimate _ create more support for more harsher ciimate protocoi~ _ create more support for more harsher climate protocol. and _ create more support for more harsher climate protocol. and to _ create more support for more harsher climate protocol. and to divide - climate protocol. and to divide sociai, — climate protocol. and to divide sociai, if— climate protocol. and to divide sociai, if you _ climate protocol. and to divide social, if you ask— climate protocol. and to divide social, if you ask people - climate protocol. and to divide social, if you ask people to i social, if you ask people to renovate _ social, if you ask people to renovate analysis, - social, if you ask people to renovate analysis, that i social, if you ask people toi renovate analysis, that that social, if you ask people to - renovate analysis, that that support schemes— renovate analysis, that that support schemes that — renovate analysis, that that support schemes that can _ renovate analysis, that that support schemes that can afford _ renovate analysis, that that support schemes that can afford it - renovate analysis, that that support schemes that can afford it becausel schemes that can afford it because otherwise. — schemes that can afford it because otherwise. how _ schemes that can afford it because otherwise, how will _ schemes that can afford it because otherwise, how will they _ schemes that can afford it because otherwise, how will they do - schemes that can afford it because otherwise, how will they do it i schemes that can afford it because otherwise, how will they do it and i otherwise, how will they do it and with these — otherwise, how will they do it and with these huge _ otherwise, how will they do it and with these huge tasks. _ otherwise, how will they do it and with these huge tasks.— otherwise, how will they do it and with these huge tasks. bringing in a cam aiun with these huge tasks. bringing in a campaign by — with these huge tasks. bringing in a campaign by the — with these huge tasks. bringing in a campaign by the newspaper- with these huge tasks. bringing in a campaign by the newspaper at i with these huge tasks. bringing in a campaign by the newspaper at the l with these huge tasks. bringing in a i campaign by the newspaper at the uk. and i want to give the thoughts of the five points expansion in london and they are let's go back to your
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thoughts on this. in prayer to having the finger on the pulse of the uk population, it is clearly taken the position that people, not people without enough of these climate change measures that fighting back against them, what do you make of that?— fighting back against them, what do you make of that? distal support for climate change _ you make of that? distal support for climate change measures _ you make of that? distal support for climate change measures and i you make of that? distal support for climate change measures and it i you make of that? distal support for i climate change measures and it comes down to peoples personal lives. taking something like meat consumption, people say they're willing to cut back on meat consumption two or three times a week and a 30 people say they're willing to do that but if you go to more drastic options of reducing cutting meat out of her diet completely, that number drops to about i3%. how much impact as a change however my personal life. if you look at the usa, we asked people
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which you support having something like the sun in your local area 5171% people to -- 5196 -- 51% of —— 51% of the people would oppose that. he -- 5196 of the people would oppose that. ., , -- 5196 of the people would oppose that. . , _ , . , ., that. he was saying effectively that this device to _ that. he was saying effectively that this device to be _ that. he was saying effectively that this device to be made _ that. he was saying effectively that this device to be made somewhere | that. he was saying effectively that i this device to be made somewhere and it might also be produced here in the uk may thejobs it might also be produced here in the uk may the jobs for it to make sure it's cleaner or a mixture fewer victims overall because it's not transported, with make of that? past the climate change act of this legislation — the climate change act of this legislation did _ the climate change act of this legislation did is _ the climate change act of try 3 legislation did is this body at progress on the net zero targets in this committee given the prime minister a little bit of cover this week because it is the committee thatis week because it is the committee that is set that we can achieve net zero even if he keeps chewing for
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north sea oil and gas and rishi sunak a lot lot of weight behind that coverage this week is an unstructured additional gas licenses. it is a huge industry in scotland in august of the country speaking to you from producing enough a lot ofjobs in those vulnerable in the oil and gas deals closing tomorrow, disconnects in a particular part of the country. the prime minister is also saying that he will invest additional money and carbon capture and storage site to be produced from that extraction will be stored and i will also produce net zero targets. it is interesting about that list of five things you put out there from this is the newspaper is the one endorsing the major political party, head of the next general election. you can bet public policy analysts will be studying that list and begin
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manifestos at in the next general election. that is bad news for climate change.— climate change. international as - ects, climate change. international a5pects. the _ climate change. international aspects, the un _ climate change. international- aspects, the un secretary-general. last year — the un secretary general said — �*the truly dangerous radicals are the countries that are increasing the production of fossil fuels' doug, what you make of that? more of a movement — doug, what you make of that? more of a movement to — doug, what you make of that? more of a movement to all _ doug, what you make of that? more of a movement to all of _ doug, what you make of that? more of a movement to all of the _ doug, what you make of that? more of a movement to all of the above. i a movement to all of the above. increasing — a movement to all of the above. increasing gas and oil because that's— increasing gas and oil because that's the _ increasing gas and oil because that's the reality of her things are now in— that's the reality of her things are now in china it is much that ( as we can as _ now in china it is much that ( as we can as rishi — now in china it is much that ( as we can as rishi sunak was saying about the uk _ can as rishi sunak was saying about the uk but — can as rishi sunak was saying about the uk but also increasing the bread from the _ the uk but also increasing the bread from the nuclear were riven used at end of— from the nuclear were riven used at end of renewables, wind and solar but also _ end of renewables, wind and solar but also mindful of these things take a _ but also mindful of these things take a long time and are difficult to get— take a long time and are difficult to get there. an offshore wind
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project — to get there. an offshore wind project i — to get there. an offshore wind project i worked on on the offshore of massachusetts that took years to -et of massachusetts that took years to get done _ of massachusetts that took years to get done and it's nowhere near being completely— get done and it's nowhere near being completely dead meat finally gotten approval— completely dead meat finally gotten approval last year after years of work _ approval last year after years of work and — approval last year after years of work and actually getting energy from _ work and actually getting energy from that is going to take a long time _ from that is going to take a long time and — from that is going to take a long time and this is where washington wrestles— time and this is where washington wrestles with what is the short—term and long—term in the short—term, oil and long—term in the short—term, oil and gas _ and long—term in the short—term, oil and gas is _ and long—term in the short—term, oil and gas is still king and that is not changing anytime soon, regardless of what we want to see in 2035 and _ regardless of what we want to see in 2035 and 2015 to at zero —— 2050. | 2035 and 2015 to at zero —— 2050. regret that 2035 and 2015 to at zero —— 2050. i regret that he did it, they signed the paris — regret that he did it, they signed the paris agreement _ regret that he did it, they signed the paris agreement and - regret that he did it, they signed the paris agreement and new i regret that he did it, they signed the paris agreement and new oil| regret that he did it, they signed i the paris agreement and new oil and a-s the paris agreement and new oil and gas fields, _ the paris agreement and new oil and gas fields, they _ the paris agreement and new oil and gas fields, they basically _ the paris agreement and new oil and gas fields, they basically exiting i gas fields, they basically exiting at the _ gas fields, they basically exiting at the international— gas fields, they basically exiting at the international energy- gas fields, they basically exiting i at the international energy agency in 2021— at the international energy agency in 2021 set—
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at the international energy agency in 2021 set already _ at the international energy agency in 2021 set already if _ at the international energy agency in 2021 set already if we _ at the international energy agency in 2021 set already if we go - at the international energy agency in 2021 set already if we go for i at the international energy agencyl in 2021 set already if we go for new oil and _ in 2021 set already if we go for new oil and gas — in 2021 set already if we go for new oil and gas developments, - in 2021 set already if we go for new oil and gas developments, were i in 2021 set already if we go for new. oil and gas developments, were going to get— oil and gas developments, were going to get a _ oil and gas developments, were going to get a 15— oil and gas developments, were going to get a 15 and — oil and gas developments, were going to get a 1.5 and the _ oil and gas developments, were going to get a 1.5 and the temperature i to get a 1.5 and the temperature will go _ to get a 1.5 and the temperature will go up — to get a 1.5 and the temperature will go up from _ to get a 1.5 and the temperature will go up. from a _ to get a 1.5 and the temperature will go up. from a climate - will go up. from a climate perspective, i— will go up. from a climate perspective, i really- will go up. from a climate l perspective, i really cannot understand _ perspective, i really cannot understand it _ perspective, i really cannot understand it and - perspective, i really cannot understand it and you're i perspective, i really cannot. understand it and you're going perspective, i really cannot - understand it and you're going for economic— understand it and you're going for economic agenda _ understand it and you're going for economic agenda based _ understand it and you're going for economic agenda based on - understand it and you're going for economic agenda based on this i understand it and you're going for. economic agenda based on this and think— economic agenda based on this and think it's _ economic agenda based on this and think it's the — economic agenda based on this and think it's the future. _ economic agenda based on this and think it's the future. looking - economic agenda based on this and think it's the future. looking at - think it's the future. looking at the us, — think it's the future. looking at the us, they're _ think it's the future. looking at the us, they're going - think it's the future. looking at the us, they're going for- think it's the future. looking at. the us, they're going for inflation reduction — the us, they're going for inflation reduction act _ the us, they're going for inflation reduction act and _ the us, they're going for inflation reduction act and bid _ the us, they're going for inflation reduction act and bid for- the us, they're going for inflation reduction act and bid for wind - the us, they're going for inflationi reduction act and bid for wind and solar— reduction act and bid for wind and solar and — reduction act and bid for wind and solar and batteries— reduction act and bid for wind and solar and batteries and _ reduction act and bid for wind and solar and batteries and what - reduction act and bid for wind and solar and batteries and what have you in _ solar and batteries and what have you in the — solar and batteries and what have you in the eu, _ solar and batteries and what have you in the eu, returning - solar and batteries and what have you in the eu, returning the - solar and batteries and what have | you in the eu, returning the same and also, — you in the eu, returning the same and also, china's— you in the eu, returning the same and also, china's moving - you in the eu, returning the same and also, china's moving that- you in the eu, returning the same and also, china's moving that wayi and also, china's moving that way so. and also, china's moving that way so i— and also, china's moving that way so. . ., and also, china's moving that way so, ., ., , and also, china's moving that way so. . ., , . ., . so. i want to bring in a quote and ou so. i want to bring in a quote and you mentioned _ so. i want to bring in a quote and you mentioned china. _ so. i want to bring in a quote and you mentioned china. the - so. i want to bring in a quote and | you mentioned china. the support from tony blair. this is tony blair's view in an interview with the new statesman — former prime minister of the uk — �*0ne year's rise in china's emissions would outscore the whole of britain's emissions for a year.�*
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doesn't that put it in perspective, whatever the uk or other individual countries still, relevant when you compared to what china does) yes, but that's not question equipment so much and in but that's not question equipment so much and . ., . . much and in that logic, we will all, we will not — much and in that logic, we will all, we will not be _ much and in that logic, we will all, we will not be able _ much and in that logic, we will all, we will not be able to _ much and in that logic, we will all, we will not be able to survive - we will not be able to survive on the planet— we will not be able to survive on the planet ttut— we will not be able to survive on the planet but this. _ we will not be able to survive on the planet but this. the - we will not be able to survive on| the planet but this. the question is,econon1ic_ the planet but this. the question is, economic development, - the planet but this. the question . is, economic development, they're all happening — is, economic development, they're all happening in— is, economic development, they're all happening in the _ is, economic development, they're all happening in the green - all happening in the green technologies. _ all happening in the green technologies. and - all happening in the green technologies. and i- all happening in the greeni technologies. and i wonder all happening in the green - technologies. and i wonder why you do not _ technologies. and i wonder why you do not want — technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to— technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to be _ technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to be a _ technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to be a part _ technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to be a part of- technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to be a part of it. - technologies. and i wonder why you do not want to be a part of it. if- do not want to be a part of it. if you want to _ do not want to be a part of it. if you want to be _ do not want to be a part of it. if you want to be economically . you want to be economically successful— you want to be economically successful in— you want to be economically successful in the _ you want to be economically successful in the future, - you want to be economicallyi successful in the future, you you want to be economically - successful in the future, you have to invest — successful in the future, you have to invest in — successful in the future, you have to invest in this _ successful in the future, you have to invest in this right _ successful in the future, you have to invest in this right now, - successful in the future, you have to invest in this right now, it's - successful in the future, you have to invest in this right now, it's a l to invest in this right now, it's a transition — to invest in this right now, it's a transition that— to invest in this right now, it's a transition that rights _ to invest in this right now, it's a transition that rights are - to invest in this right now, it's a l transition that rights are economy i’ili'it transition that rights are economy right now — transition that rights are economy right now if— transition that rights are economy right now if you _ transition that rights are economy right now. if you go— transition that rights are economy right now. if you go on— transition that rights are economy right now. if you go on the -
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transition that rights are economy right now. if you go on the wrong| right now. if you go on the wrong direction, — right now. if you go on the wrong direction, don't _ right now. if you go on the wrong direction, don't think— right now. if you go on the wrong direction, don't think you - right now. if you go on the wrong direction, don't think you have i direction, don't think you have a bright _ direction, don't think you have a bright future _ direction, don't think you have a bright future.— bright future. have become an issue do ou bright future. have become an issue do you think — bright future. have become an issue do you think this _ bright future. have become an issue do you think this will— bright future. have become an issue do you think this will be _ bright future. have become an issue do you think this will be of— bright future. have become an issue do you think this will be of general. do you think this will be of general election? the do you think this will be of general election? . . do you think this will be of general election? , , , , election? the biggest issue in the reneral election? the biggest issue in the general election _ election? the biggest issue in the general election taking _ election? the biggest issue in the general election taking place - election? the biggest issue in the general election taking place this| general election taking place this cost of living in reducing the finances. oiland cost of living in reducing the finances. oil and gas plates and about and that's why you need for conservatives to put in the place which will affect the finances of particularly low income households. it's interesting to get the point blank that fits with my gut instinct if you care about climate change, you'll say yes and you should pay more for policies and climate change that will be a little bit scared. you probably heard just about as much is us are going to shift the mainstream parties on climate change outside of the general election and ito bring down inflation and increase productivity in the economy and opportunities for young people this going to be election of those
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keyissues this going to be election of those key issues and climate change will be quite high on the agenda. thank ou for be quite high on the agenda. thank you for coming _ be quite high on the agenda. thank you for coming on _ be quite high on the agenda. thank you for coming on the _ be quite high on the agenda. thank you for coming on the programme and thank you. developing news in niger. the military coup there last week escalating developments but many countries, including france are launching your evacuations trying to get citizens out of the country —— air evacuations. he bled to the airport there flights will arrive to take them away —— people are fleeing to the airport. in many countries, like the uk actually telling people to register their location with the authorities there and stay inside but we are talking about apologies,
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we do not have pictures to bring you right now but we will bring them to you in the next few minutes. this is bbc news. bye—bye. hello there. it looks like it's going to remain unsettled for the rest of this week. thanks to low pressure, we'll see showers or longer spells of rain, some windy weather in the short term and it will generally feel on the cool side for early august. now, there's a new area of low pressure for the time of year, will continue to push across the country tonight and into tomorrow, so conditions go downhill across pretty much all areas. heavy rain starts to spread in. the winds begin to pick up across southern and western areas as the centre of the low edges closer towards our shores. on the plus side, though, it will be quite mild and muggy across the country with temperatures in the low—to—mid—teens celsius range.
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so, tomorrow, then, we'll see the winds picking up with gales across southern england, certainly through the channel, 50—60 mph gusts in their own right could cause some disruption, some heavy rainfall. and into the afternoon, across england and wales in the centre of the low weather, the winds will be light, we'll see some slow moving, heavy and thundery downpours as well. could see temperatures reach 20—22 degrees in the warmest spots, but i think for most mid to high teens sums it up. now, that area of low pressure starts to pull out eastwards into the north sea and the near continent, takes the heavy rain with it and we start to see a northerly wind develop across the uk. so it's a little bit drier, i suppose, to start thursday, but there'll be plenty of showers across southern areas. this is the pressure chart, then, for thursday. we're in a run of northerly winds and it will be one of sunshine and showers, and we'll have those pretty heavy showers from the word go across some southern parts of britain. some sunshine around as well — more cloud, though, for the northern half of scotland, showers or longer spells of rain here. some of the heaviest of the showers through the afternoon could be across central and western parts of the uk.
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and those winds fairly brisk and cool, temperatures at best, ranging from around 14—20 degrees from north to south across the country. for friday, it's a similar story. we've got northerly winds, sunshine and showers — most of the showers affecting south east scotland down in towards east anglia and the southeast. again, there could be the odd thundery one mixed in there, but some better sunny spells, i think, towards the west. but again, feeling cool for the time of year. it remains unsettled into the weekend. low pressure always nearby, showers or longer spells of rain, and again, it's going to feel pretty cool for early august. see you later.
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an indictment is a formal accusation of a serious crime. an indictment is a formal accusation of a serious crime. the target letter by special counseljack smith appeared to suggest that the former president could face new charges of attempting to defraud the us government as well as obstruction of an official proceeding which would have been the certification ofjoe biden's victory as president by congress. former president trump has denied any wrongdoing. joining me today are kezia dougdale, from john smith centre, a research body, and also former leader of scottish labour party. and doug high, republican party strategist in the us. doug, we will start with you. what do you make of the potential indictment heading donald trump sway? it indictment heading donald trump swa ? . . , indictment heading donald trump swa? . ., , sway? it certainly if happens will be big news and _ sway? it certainly if happens will be big news and something - sway? it certainly if happens will. be big news and something voters will be talking about. what we've seen with the whole context of this is a very bizarre conversation to be having about an american former
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