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iand and he was that we have heard of and he was told to stand up and he placed his hand up and he sat down and then sign some papers regarding those release conditions and that is the latest we're hearing from the courtroom itself in that arraignment is still taking place it is not expected to be a very long process and could take 30 minutes up to an hour or so and could take 30 minutes up to an hourorso and it and could take 30 minutes up to an hour or so and it is still ongoing but donald trump pleading not guilty to all charges being put before him by the magistrate judge to all charges being put before him by the magistratejudge here in washington, dc. by the magistrate “udge here in washington, dc._ by the magistrate “udge here in washington, dc. special prosecutor who has been _ washington, dc. special prosecutor who has been here _ washington, dc. special prosecutor who has been here since _ washington, dc. special prosecutor| who has been here since november, washington, dc. special prosecutor- who has been here since november, do we know anything about the timetable going forward with this case may be and if it's something within the magistrate was that something that will have to wait until the judge takes over? be will have to wait until the “udge takes o_ will have to wait until the “udge takes over? be expected to be a second hearing _ takes over? be expected to be a second hearing next _
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takes over? be expected to be a second hearing next week- takes over? be expected to be a second hearing next week and l takes over? be expected to be a| second hearing next week and i'll takes over? be expected to be a - second hearing next week and i'll be presided over by the judge second hearing next week and i'll be presided over by thejudge in second hearing next week and i'll be presided over by the judge in this case and she will then, we believe, hand down a start date for this trial and we do not have one yet and this would be the first appearance by the former president in this particular case in this indictment and going on from this, we know donald trump lawyers have been trying to change the side of the trial would still likely to bring up today and we understand there is little chance of it happening is the arraignment is still ongoing and there was a try their best to delay there was a try their best to delay the start of the trial and file all sorts of pretrial motions and discovery which is essentially meaning that the defence gets to look at the evidence that is been brought forth against the client and oftentimes in these cases, their mounds of evidence and a 5k page document for the indictment in the january six committee he looked into this across, that document was
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hundreds of pages long. there was evidence that donald trump lawyers say they want to be able to look at it and there are many ways that they can try to stretch this office out they want that to go as long as possible and we know that jack smith, the special counsel said that he would like to see a speedy trial and all of these matters are still to be worked out and right now the still to be some questions during this arraignment as to whether or not donald trump lawyers bring up a request to bring this trial and it is unlikely but will have to wait and see what happens not courtroom —— happens in that courtroom. and see what happens not courtroom -- happens in that courtroom. almost runnina -- happens in that courtroom. almost running like — -- happens in that courtroom. almost running like clockwork _ -- happens in that courtroom. almost running like clockwork this _ running like clockwork this afternoon and the arrival of the court pretty much on time and we'll be looking at the proceedings and there will be a press gaggle with which donald trump will speak. you
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said he has been told what he can and cannot say, has he abided by the rules that otherjudges of handed down? rules that other 'udges of handed down? , ., ,., , rules that other 'udges of handed down? , . ,., , , down? the 'udges, after saying these are the down? the judges, after saying these are the restrictions _ down? the judges, after saying these are the restrictions being _ down? the judges, after saying these are the restrictions being placed - are the restrictions being placed upon you and also reiterating that there are consequences if the former president does indeed break those restrictions and he is being released from custody and is allowed to leave the courthouse and he will be kept in any form of shale or anything like that as he moves on what this means that he has to know and be clarified that if he does talk about any facts of the case, they can be very severe consequences need to be taken into custody and referred similar restrictions being placed on former present donald trump in other cases as well. he is aware of that and as far as we know, there haven't been any serious breaches of those restrictions would upon them in this case. think
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breaches of those restrictions would upon them in this case.— upon them in this case. think you very much — upon them in this case. think you very much and — upon them in this case. think you very much and hearing _ upon them in this case. think you very much and hearing that - upon them in this case. think you very much and hearing that the i upon them in this case. think you i very much and hearing that the next hearing in this case with the judge will take place on august 28 in just over two weeks' time, ten o'clock in the morning and went to the donald trump doesn't have to attend that and will you have to attend, we know about her busy is going to bend the campaign and does he have to be there every day in court once he gets under way? for there every day in court once he gets under way?— there every day in court once he gets under way? for the actual trial itself, he would _ gets under way? for the actual trial itself, he would probably _ gets under way? for the actual trial itself, he would probably want - gets under way? for the actual trial itself, he would probably want to i gets under way? for the actual trial| itself, he would probably want to be there _ itself, he would probably want to be there during the trial and might be required to be there by the judge as part of— required to be there by the judge as part of the _ required to be there by the judge as part of the due process that is afforded — part of the due process that is afforded a defendant in the trap at the prehearing says there's no need for them _ the prehearing says there's no need for them to— the prehearing says there's no need for them to be at the prehearing stop but— for them to be at the prehearing stop but what do you expect to be discussed — stop but what do you expect to be discussed and is asking carl whether we are _
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discussed and is asking carl whether we are looking at timetables, whether— we are looking at timetables, whether the court, whether the case might— whether the court, whether the case might be _ whether the court, whether the case might be moved from the courthouse to another— might be moved from the courthouse to another and is that subsequent hearing _ to another and is that subsequent hearing on— to another and is that subsequent hearing on the 20th of august, is that the — hearing on the 20th of august, is that the date for those things will be entered into court was blue there probably— be entered into court was blue there probably isn't tempted by donald trump _ probably isn't tempted by donald trump to— probably isn't tempted by donald trump to move the trial and i doubt that would — trump to move the trial and i doubt that would be granted the big issue is scheduling, whether or not can move _ is scheduling, whether or not can move this — is scheduling, whether or not can move this trial along and they realty— move this trial along and they really should is the republican party _ really should is the republican party can— really should is the republican party can have an opportunity to think— party can have an opportunity to think about the other candidates for president— think about the other candidates for president but on donald trump will try to _ president but on donald trump will try to the _ president but on donald trump will try to the trial is much as possible and you _ try to the trial is much as possible and you arguing that this isjust a means to — and you arguing that this isjust a means to defeat him at the polls. a lot of means to defeat him at the polls. lot of people watching on social media and by most people ask is in the next president of the united states take office while in prison?
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i think if someone were elected president — i think if someone were elected president of the united states, if they been convicted of a felony, you'd _ they been convicted of a felony, you'd probably end up with a situation _ you'd probably end up with a situation where the presidency would be deferred but these are federal crimes— be deferred but these are federal crimes that can be pardoned by the president _ crimes that can be pardoned by the president of the united states. whether— president of the united states. whether the president can pardon himsetf— whether the president can pardon himself is— whether the president can pardon himself is unclear, but one strategy has been _ himself is unclear, but one strategy has been brought up and might be very wise — has been brought up and might be very wise for donald trump would be to take _ very wise for donald trump would be to take his— very wise for donald trump would be to take his delegates of the convention and give them to someone else and _ convention and give them to someone else and promise them a pardon and he would _ else and promise them a pardon and he would get a pardon is and is the person— he would get a pardon is and is the person goes into the white house and -iven person goes into the white house and given someone with president biden's poll numbers, a number of those nominees— poll numbers, a number of those nominees might have a good chance against _ nominees might have a good chance against president biden. and i would not assume necessarily that those are going — not assume necessarily that those are going to be the nominees. very good _ are going to be the nominees. very good rational reasons why people don't _ good rational reasons why people don't always behave rationally for each of _
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don't always behave rationally for each of the political parties to think— each of the political parties to think about another nominee in 2003. what he _ think about another nominee in 2003. what he could crush the federal cases— what he could crush the federal cases but— what he could crush the federal cases but not the state cases. the hush money _ cases but not the state cases. tie: hush money statements cases but not the state cases. tue: hush money statements would cases but not the state cases. tte: hush money statements would go cases but not the state cases. t'te: hush money statements would go ahead evenif hush money statements would go ahead even if he quashed the federal cases in the georgia case which is a state case brought by the district attorney in fulton county in georgia. in some respects, it mirrors the kids we're seeing here in washington, dc. t mirrors the kids we're seeing here in washington, dc.— in washington, dc. i believe the rovernor in washington, dc. i believe the governor of _ in washington, dc. i believe the governor of georgia _ in washington, dc. i believe the governor of georgia is _ in washington, dc. i believe the governor of georgia is a - in washington, dc. i believe the i governor of georgia is a republican and. ., . .,, , ., governor of georgia is a republican and. ., . ., and. not much loss with -- love loss of brian camp- _ and. not much loss with -- love loss of brian camp. in _ and. not much loss with -- love loss of brian camp. in the _ and. not much loss with -- love loss of brian camp. in the united - and. not much loss with -- love loss of brian camp. in the united states, | of brian camp. in the united states, it was a republican. _ of brian camp. in the united states, it was a republican. who _ of brian camp. in the united states, it was a republican. who at - of brian camp. in the united states, it was a republican. who at one - of brian camp. in the united states, it was a republican. who at one andj it was a republican. who at one and ardoned it was a republican. who at one and pardoned donald _ it was a republican. who at one and pardoned donald trump _ it was a republican. who at one and pardoned donald trump and - it was a republican. who at one and
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pardoned donald trump and the - pardoned donald trump and the governor— pardoned donald trump and the governor of georgia would fall into line very— governor of georgia would fall into line very quickly probably with whatever a republican president other— whatever a republican president other than donald trump did and that leaves _ other than donald trump did and that leaves you _ other than donald trump did and that leaves you with new york and those are serious — leaves you with new york and those are serious charges but that is the least _ are serious charges but that is the least serious and others charges against — least serious and others charges against donald trump and if the judgment could try to go away from the state _ judgment could try to go away from the state attorney because the justice — the state attorney because the justice department prosecuted the case against donald trump lawyer, michael: _ case against donald trump lawyer, michael: consenting tojoe case against donald trump lawyer, michael: consenting to joe for case against donald trump lawyer, michael: consenting tojoe for the stormy— michael: consenting tojoe for the stormy daniels chaos and the only reason _ stormy daniels chaos and the only reason the — stormy daniels chaos and the only reason the department engulfed her donald _ reason the department engulfed her donald trump was because he was the boss, _ donald trump was because he was the boss, he _ donald trump was because he was the boss, he was — donald trump was because he was the boss, he was the president they were going _ boss, he was the president they were going to _ boss, he was the president they were going to indict the boss and my point _ going to indict the boss and my point is — going to indict the boss and my point is that if donald trump were smart, _ point is that if donald trump were smart, he — point is that if donald trump were smart, he would think seriously about— smart, he would think seriously about those other republican candidates whether they could go on there and _ candidates whether they could go on there and when the election and pardon — there and when the election and pardon him and some of the state cases— pardon him and some of the state
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cases fatt— pardon him and some of the state cases fall into line and again, emphasise that they need to take very seriously their options and president — very seriously their options and president biden about the job as president and whether she wants another— president and whether she wants another four years that's up to him. that suits— another four years that's up to him. that suits me a very carefully for my next question. a presidential election is very big and the stakes are so high for donald trump. it is the white house or prison, potentially. tt the white house or prison, potentially-— the white house or prison, otentiall . , . ., , potentially. it is the white house ofthe potentially. it is the white house of the jailhouse _ potentially. it is the white house of the jailhouse and _ potentially. it is the white house of the jailhouse and it _ potentially. it is the white house of the jailhouse and it is - of the jailhouse and it is definitely— of the jailhouse and it is definitely the _ of the jailhouse and it is definitely the question i of the jailhouse and it is i definitely the question will of the jailhouse and it is - definitely the question will be answered _ definitely the question will be answered by— definitely the question will be answered by november- definitely the question will be answered by november and l definitely the question will be l answered by november and so, definitely the question will be - answered by november and so, there is a lot— answered by november and so, there is a lot at— answered by november and so, there is a lot at stake — answered by november and so, there is a lot at stake and _ answered by november and so, there is a lot at stake and whatever - is a lot at stake and whatever strategy _ is a lot at stake and whatever strategy that _ is a lot at stake and whatever strategy that exists _ is a lot at stake and whatever strategy that exists to - is a lot at stake and whatever strategy that exists to make i is a lot at stake and whatever - strategy that exists to make sure that president— strategy that exists to make sure that president trump _ strategy that exists to make sure that president trump gets - strategy that exists to make sure that president trump gets the i that president trump gets the charges — that president trump gets the charges dropped _ that president trump gets the charges dropped in _ that president trump gets the charges dropped in the - that president trump gets the | charges dropped in the federal that president trump gets the - charges dropped in the federal case, they're _ charges dropped in the federal case, they're not— charges dropped in the federal case, they're not gone _ charges dropped in the federal case, they're not gone trial _ charges dropped in the federal case, they're not gone trial whatever- they're not gone trial whatever leverage — they're not gone trial whatever leverage that _ they're not gone trial whatever leverage that the _ they're not gone trial whatever leverage that the federal - they're not gone trial whatever- leverage that the federal government has with— leverage that the federal government has with respect _ leverage that the federal government has with respect to _ leverage that the federal government has with respect to new— leverage that the federal government has with respect to new york - leverage that the federal government has with respect to new york which i has with respect to new york which is probably— has with respect to new york which is probably the _ has with respect to new york which is probably the weakest _ has with respect to new york which is probably the weakest case - has with respect to new york which is probably the weakest case that l is probably the weakest case that the step— is probably the weakest case that the step to — is probably the weakest case that the step to assume _ is probably the weakest case that the step to assume republican i is probably the weakest case that. the step to assume republican party standpoints — the step to assume republican party standpoints taking _ the step to assume republican party standpoints taking place _ the step to assume republican party
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standpoints taking place in _ the step to assume republican party standpoints taking place in georgia i standpoints taking place in georgia will be _ standpoints taking place in georgia will be pressure _ standpoints taking place in georgia will be pressure for _ standpoints taking place in georgia will be pressure for then _ standpoints taking place in georgia will be pressure for then and - standpoints taking place in georgia will be pressure for then and there | will be pressure for then and there are so— will be pressure for then and there are so many— will be pressure for then and there are so many moving _ will be pressure for then and there are so many moving parts - will be pressure for then and there are so many moving parts will- will be pressure for then and there are so many moving parts will be i will be pressure for then and there j are so many moving parts will be a crazy— are so many moving parts will be a crazy year— are so many moving parts will be a crazy year and _ are so many moving parts will be a crazy year and a _ are so many moving parts will be a crazy year and a half _ are so many moving parts will be a crazy year and a half between - are so many moving parts will be a crazy year and a half between now| crazy year and a half between now and next _ crazy year and a half between now and next november— crazy year and a half between now and next november and _ crazy year and a half between now and next november and anyone i crazy year and a half between now i and next november and anyone who crazy year and a half between now - and next november and anyone who can predict exactty _ and next november and anyone who can predict exactly what _ and next november and anyone who can predict exactly what is _ and next november and anyone who can predict exactly what is going _ and next november and anyone who can predict exactly what is going to - predict exactly what is going to happen— predict exactly what is going to happen and _ predict exactly what is going to happen and it's _ predict exactly what is going to happen and it's probably- predict exactly what is going to happen and it's probably going | predict exactly what is going to i happen and it's probably going to predict exactly what is going to - happen and it's probably going to be predicting _ happen and it's probably going to be predicting the — happen and it's probably going to be predicting the next _ happen and it's probably going to be predicting the next losing _ happen and it's probably going to be predicting the next losing lottery- predicting the next losing lottery ticket _ predicting the next losing lottery ticket as— predicting the next losing lottery ticket as well— predicting the next losing lottery ticket as well because _ predicting the next losing lottery ticket as well because nobody i predicting the next losing lottery- ticket as well because nobody knows. he is teasing — ticket as well because nobody knows. he is teasing a — ticket as well because nobody knows. he is teasing a couple _ ticket as well because nobody knows. he is teasing a couple of— ticket as well because nobody knows. he is teasing a couple of times- ticket as well because nobody knows. he is teasing a couple of times now. he is teasing a couple of times now the joe he is teasing a couple of times now thejoe biden might take his delegates and step outside of the democratic convention and he is the oldest president of the united states his head and he is getting slower, let's be honest. the republicans, do they really think they're going to be facing joe biden come november 2000 8a? shading come november 2000 84? acting president trump _ come november 2000 84? acting president trump feels _ come november 2000 84? acting president trump feels he - come november 2000 84? acting president trump feels he is - come november 2000 84? acting president trump feels he is even l come november 2000 84? acting| president trump feels he is even if it is, _ president trump feels he is even if it is, what— president trump feels he is even if it is, what has— president trump feels he is even if it is, what has come _ president trump feels he is even if it is, what has come he _ president trump feels he is even if it is, what has come he thinks- president trump feels he is even if it is, what has come he thinks is. president trump feels he is even if it is, what has come he thinks is inj it is, what has come he thinks is in a stronger— it is, what has come he thinks is in a stronger position _ it is, what has come he thinks is in a stronger position to _ it is, what has come he thinks is in a stronger position to beat - it is, what has come he thinks is in a stronger position to beat her. . it is, what has come he thinks is inl a stronger position to beat her. and if he decides — a stronger position to beat her. and if he decides to _ a stronger position to beat her. and
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if he decides to step _ a stronger position to beat her. and if he decides to step aside - a stronger position to beat her. and if he decides to step aside and - a stronger position to beat her. and if he decides to step aside and for l if he decides to step aside and for him to— if he decides to step aside and for him to put— if he decides to step aside and for him to put his _ if he decides to step aside and for him to put his way— if he decides to step aside and for him to put his way behind, - if he decides to step aside and for him to put his way behind, harris| him to put his way behind, harris was the _ him to put his way behind, harris was the only— him to put his way behind, harris was the only reason _ him to put his way behind, harris was the only reason he _ him to put his way behind, harris was the only reason he is- him to put his way behind, harris was the only reason he is in- him to put his way behind, harris was the only reason he is in the i was the only reason he is in the white _ was the only reason he is in the white house _ was the only reason he is in the white house today— was the only reason he is in the white house today is _ was the only reason he is in the white house today is because l was the only reason he is in the . white house today is because the pledge _ white house today is because the ptedge of— white house today is because the pledge of an _ white house today is because the pledge of an african—american . white house today is because the - pledge of an african—american woman to be the _ pledge of an african—american woman to be the vice — pledge of an african—american woman to be the vice president. _ pledge of an african—american woman to be the vice president. he _ pledge of an african—american woman to be the vice president. he is- to be the vice president. he is going — to be the vice president. he is going to — to be the vice president. he is going to be _ to be the vice president. he is going to be stuck— to be the vice president. he is going to be stuck with - to be the vice president. he is going to be stuck with her- to be the vice president. he is going to be stuck with her and to be the vice president. he is- going to be stuck with her and the second-tier— going to be stuck with her and the second—tier candidate _ going to be stuck with her and the second—tier candidate is _ going to be stuck with her and the second—tier candidate is for- going to be stuck with her and the. second—tier candidate is for outside the mainstream _ second—tier candidate is for outside the mainstream of— second—tier candidate is for outside the mainstream of american - second—tier candidate is for outsidel the mainstream of american politics and it— the mainstream of american politics and it is— the mainstream of american politics and it is not— the mainstream of american politics and it is not of— the mainstream of american politics and it is not of the _ the mainstream of american politics and it is not of the convention- the mainstream of american politics and it is not of the convention that i and it is not of the convention that he is _ and it is not of the convention that he is going — and it is not of the convention that he is going to _ and it is not of the convention that he is going to have discrete - and it is not of the convention thatl he is going to have discrete options of people _ he is going to have discrete options of people who — he is going to have discrete options of people who are _ he is going to have discrete options of people who are going _ he is going to have discrete options of people who are going to - he is going to have discrete options of people who are going to be - he is going to have discrete optionsl of people who are going to be tromp and if— of people who are going to be tromp and if he _ of people who are going to be tromp and if he goes — of people who are going to be tromp and if he goes with, _ of people who are going to be tromp and if he goes with, here _ of people who are going to be tromp and if he goes with, here is, - of people who are going to be tromp and if he goes with, here is, a - of people who are going to be tromp and if he goes with, here is, a lot. and if he goes with, here is, a lot of people — and if he goes with, here is, a lot of people think _ and if he goes with, here is, a lot of people think his _ and if he goes with, here is, a lot of people think his hands- and if he goes with, here is, a lot of people think his hands are - and if he goes with, here is, a lot of people think his hands are tied into gavin— of people think his hands are tied into gavin newsom _ of people think his hands are tied into gavin newsom was - of people think his hands are tied into gavin newsom was a - of people think his hands are tied into gavin newsom was a long. of people think his hands are tied i into gavin newsom was a long pole, president _ into gavin newsom was a long pole, president trump _ into gavin newsom was a long pole, president trump is _ into gavin newsom was a long pole, president trump is going _ into gavin newsom was a long pole, president trump is going to - president trump is going to beat them _ president trump is going to beat them it— president trump is going to beat them it is— president trump is going to beat them. it is where _ president trump is going to beat them. it is where dynamic- president trump is going to beat them. it is where dynamic to - president trump is going to beatj them. it is where dynamic to see what's _ them. it is where dynamic to see what's going _ them. it is where dynamic to see what's going to _ them. it is where dynamic to see what's going to be _ them. it is where dynamic to see what's going to be happening - them. it is where dynamic to see. what's going to be happening over the next _ what's going to be happening over the next year— what's going to be happening over the next year and _ what's going to be happening over the next year and a _ what's going to be happening over the next year and a half _ what's going to be happening over the next year and a half may- what's going to be happening over the next year and a half may be i what's going to be happening over. the next year and a half may be the president— the next year and a half may be the president makes— the next year and a half may be the president makes a _ the next year and a half may be the president makes a deal— the next year and a half may be the president makes a deal with - the next year and a half may be the . president makes a deal with somebody at the _ president makes a deal with somebody at the convention _ president makes a deal with somebody at the convention against _ president makes a deal with somebody at the convention against pardoned - at the convention against pardoned and that— at the convention against pardoned and that is— at the convention against pardoned and that is a — at the convention against pardoned and that is a possibility. _ at the convention against pardoned and that is a possibility. anything l and that is a possibility. anything is possible — and that is a possibility. anything is possible in this _ and that is a possibility. anything is possible in this case. _ and that is a possibility. anything is possible in this case. the?- and that is a possibility. anything is possible in this case.— is possible in this case. they do not want either _ is possible in this case. they do not want either of _ is possible in this case. they do not want either of these - is possible in this case. they do - not want either of these candidates and do you plan to this idea that if
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he becomes the candidate because the events that are happening in washington today that again, he jumps in the polling was make this joe biden think seriously about pulling out?— joe biden think seriously about pulling out? joe biden think seriously about ullinuout? , �* , ., pulling out? doesn't seem that way. joe biden does _ pulling out? doesn't seem that way. joe biden does believe _ pulling out? doesn't seem that way. joe biden does believe that - pulling out? doesn't seem that way. joe biden does believe that he - pulling out? doesn't seem that way. joe biden does believe that he is - joe biden does believe that he is the guy is the next president running as president and as an advantage and anyone else that comes and does not have the capacity and not close to consensus and you just heard that and he has spoken with his wife, he is spoken with his family and they are all on board with this run that is very important for him and there are a lot of people were close to biting three or six months ago they were saying, maybe we can try to get some views around michigan were others too, on an biden was having none of it. this is someone who believes he can run on this record and he accomplished a lot legislatively he believes that
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he is the guy who can be donald trump that sue is going again. —— going against. and no one wants the us election honestly. the us election, we don't want the level of uncertainty, especially at the time of crisis with the war going on with russia, the need for united states to co—ordinate with nato allies and challenges of china, you look around the world and only adversaries of the world and only adversaries of the united states, rogue states, terrorist organisations are looking forward to a us political election. and never hiring you for that out and vote, i can feel the apathy cruising from the screen. president trump is exiting to the back door and the legal team is shuffling through the important details. the
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details we are told about the timetable and the location of the trial will be decided on the 20th of august and that the report will sit in the case will benefit from the normal order, including a speedy trial and prosecutors say on behalf of the government, representing donald trump, push back instead and they're weighing the scope and extent of discovery in this case given the government as a three and half years to set forth its indictment. ajust half years to set forth its indictment. a just and fair trial and one that protects donald trump constitutional right and that is just as important as a speedy trial. i was taken by something senator said last night as he was running against donald trump. he said there are two types ofjustice in the united states. 0ne are two types ofjustice in the united states. one for republicans and there is one for president biden son hunter. which is surprising, given tim scott's background because
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in reality, their twojustices in the united states, one for very poor people and one for white—collar people and one for white—collar people who spend $40 million on their campaign and we after seeing donald trump in court today with three lawyers alongside them and spend $40 million on this defence. and many of those convicted in the connection to january six, they did not have the resources the donald trump had. t not have the resources the donald trump had-— trump had. i would say that there are two sets _ trump had. i would say that there are two sets of _ trump had. i would say that there are two sets ofjustice _ trump had. i would say that there are two sets ofjustice in - trump had. i would say that there are two sets ofjustice in the - are two sets ofjustice in the united states. _ are two sets ofjustice in the united states. last - are two sets ofjustice in the united states. last week- are two sets ofjustice in the i united states. last week when are two sets ofjustice in the - united states. last week when they try to _ united states. last week when they try to do _ united states. last week when they try to do the — united states. last week when they try to do the hunter— united states. last week when they try to do the hunter biden - united states. last week when they try to do the hunter biden plea - try to do the hunter biden plea agreement. _ try to do the hunter biden plea agreement. as— try to do the hunter biden plea agreement, as a _ try to do the hunter biden plea agreement, as a plea - try to do the hunter biden plea i agreement, as a plea agreement try to do the hunter biden plea - agreement, as a plea agreement so he would be _ agreement, as a plea agreement so he would be absolved _ agreement, as a plea agreement so he would be absolved of _ agreement, as a plea agreement so he would be absolved of all _ agreement, as a plea agreement so he would be absolved of all the _ agreement, as a plea agreement so he would be absolved of all the slick - would be absolved of all the slick liabilities. — would be absolved of all the slick liabilities, not— would be absolved of all the slick liabilities, notjust _ would be absolved of all the slick liabilities, not just ones - would be absolved of all the slick liabilities, notjust ones related l liabilities, notjust ones related to his _ liabilities, notjust ones related to his dui — liabilities, notjust ones related to his dui for— liabilities, notjust ones related to his dui for taxes— liabilities, notjust ones related to his dui for taxes for- liabilities, notjust ones relatedj to his dui for taxes for possible fraud _ to his dui for taxes for possible fraud and — to his dui for taxes for possible fraud and unprecedented - to his dui for taxes for possible | fraud and unprecedented move, to his dui for taxes for possible - fraud and unprecedented move, no other— fraud and unprecedented move, no other citizen — fraud and unprecedented move, no other citizen in— fraud and unprecedented move, no other citizen in the _ fraud and unprecedented move, no other citizen in the united - fraud and unprecedented move, no other citizen in the united states i other citizen in the united states history— other citizen in the united states history is— other citizen in the united states history is ever _ other citizen in the united states history is ever received - other citizen in the united states history is ever received that - other citizen in the united states history is ever received that kind | history is ever received that kind
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of blanket— history is ever received that kind of blanket pre—pardon _ history is ever received that kind of blanket pre—pardon and - history is ever received that kind of blanket pre—pardon and try. history is ever received that kind of blanket pre—pardon and try toj history is ever received that kind i of blanket pre—pardon and try to do it in secret — of blanket pre—pardon and try to do it in secret. when— of blanket pre—pardon and try to do it in secret. when tim _ of blanket pre—pardon and try to do it in secret. when tim scott - of blanket pre—pardon and try to do it in secret. when tim scott makes| it in secret. when tim scott makes that statement, _ it in secret. when tim scott makes that statement, he _ it in secret. when tim scott makes that statement, he makes- it in secret. when tim scott makes that statement, he makes it - it in secret. when tim scott makes| that statement, he makes it looking at the _ that statement, he makes it looking at the uniqueness _ that statement, he makes it looking at the uniqueness of what _ that statement, he makes it looking at the uniqueness of what happened with hunter— at the uniqueness of what happened with hunter biden, _ at the uniqueness of what happened with hunter biden, no— at the uniqueness of what happened with hunter biden, no one - at the uniqueness of what happened with hunter biden, no one in - at the uniqueness of what happened with hunter biden, no one in the - with hunter biden, no one in the united _ with hunter biden, no one in the united states— with hunter biden, no one in the united states history, _ with hunter biden, no one in the united states history, no - with hunter biden, no one in the united states history, no one - with hunter biden, no one in the united states history, no one isi united states history, no one is said that — united states history, no one is said that opportunity. _ united states history, no one is said that opportunity. you - united states history, no one is said that opportunity. you tell i united states history, no one is. said that opportunity. you tell me, decide to _ said that opportunity. you tell me, decide to look _ said that opportunity. you tell me, decide to look into _ said that opportunity. you tell me, decide to look into justice - said that opportunity. you tell me, j decide to look into justice system? ithink— decide to look into justice system? i think the — decide to look into justice system? i think the average _ decide to look into justice system? i think the average voter _ decide to look into justice system? i think the average voter will - decide to look into justice system? i think the average voter will say i i think the average voter will say yes _ i think the average voter will say es, ., .. " i think the average voter will say es, ., ., " ., , . i think the average voter will say es. ., ., ~ ., , . ., yes. looking at the picture of the court, because _ yes. looking at the picture of the court, because of— yes. looking at the picture of the court, because of the _ yes. looking at the picture of the court, because of the crowds - yes. looking at the picture of the l court, because of the crowds were peering over one another to catch a glimpse of the motorcade which will make its way to reagan national airport, correct?— airport, correct? yes, that is ri . ht. a airport, correct? yes, that is right- a large _ airport, correct? yes, that is right. a large crowd - airport, correct? yes, that is| right. a large crowd gathered outside in the believe donald trump will be leaving the courthouse in the arraignment meeting ended a little less than half an hour or so, it wasn't a very longer—range mentor
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hearing in the former president did plead not guilty to all charges. we'll see if he leaves the courthouse expecting to make his way back to ronald reagan airport here in washington, dc about a ten or 15 minute drive, not far away and we'll get back on the planet he led back to newjersey where he has been spending most of his time. it is very normal arraignment with not too many issues, most things will be brought up on august 28 and the former president expected to be leaving after this putting in the plea of not guilty in washington, dc. this plea of not guilty in washington, dc. �* , ., ., , plea of not guilty in washington, dc. ._, , dc. as initial arguments with you in a coule dc. as initial arguments with you in a coople weeks' _ dc. as initial arguments with you in a couple weeks' time _ dc. as initial arguments with you in a couple weeks' time about - dc. as initial arguments with you in a couple weeks' time about the - dc. as initial arguments with you in | a couple weeks' time about the pace in which this will go. that
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a couple weeks' time about the pace in which this will go.— in which this will go. that is removed — in which this will go. that is removed or _ in which this will go. that is removed or all _ in which this will go. that is removed or all of _ in which this will go. that is removed or all of these - in which this will go. that is - removed or all of these arguments do not know exactly what will be dealt with that distance is when we will hear. proceeds in the arguments we can speculate, especially based on what the lawyers up and sing in public, they want to make sure that this trial will take longer than expected and special counsel is hoping for a speedy trial but we heard argumentsjust hoping for a speedy trial but we heard arguments just today that given the scope of this indictment, the charges being filed against donald trump in the mountain of evidence that they will request, they will request some delays in time to review the evidence. which is purchasing the motorcade leaving the house in the presidential security on his way back to reagan national
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airport. not a long drive, about five miles in the county in virginia and take about ten minutes to get there in the plane is on the runway we can see pictures of that and they're going to take the president back to newjersey, to the golf club brisbane staying in recent weeks. it will bear watching for is whether the president will make any statement when it comes to the airport and gentlemen following it and you've seen pictures of the barricade as it moves through the streets. whether or not it will make any statement make it so the airport, wejust do not know any statement make it so the airport, we just do not know because he has been given very strict instructions by the magistrate today about what he can and cannot say. and the journalists to be very strict instructions of what they can report and the scope and extent of it is gone on in the courtroom
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today. he will try to bring you of the evening the reports from people who sat there and watch the proceedings but the demeanour of the president was pretty sullen. he sat there with his arms crossed between his lawyers and shook his head as the indictment was read out, the plea was entered by his chief lawyer. and you can get a sense from what we had that he is a bit nonplussed by the evidence is said to come to washington, dc today to sit and take part in. you'll probably get a flavour of that when he does make a statement. let's just quickly talk about the attitude of the president to these various trials that he is not involved in. from time to time, we've already heard it today, he does focus on the presiding judge let's face it, given
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the division that is talked about in the division that is talked about in the country and the device of these trials are, that is dangerous when talking aboutjudges the er where they live and puts the judge and families at risk. they live and puts the 'udge and families at risk._ families at risk. donald trump did this when he _ families at risk. donald trump did this when he ran _ families at risk. donald trump did this when he ran for _ families at risk. donald trump did this when he ran for president - families at risk. donald trump did this when he ran for president in i this when he ran for president in 2016— this when he ran for president in 2016 and — this when he ran for president in 2016 and attacked, and referred to herein. _ 2016 and attacked, and referred to herein. she — 2016 and attacked, and referred to herein, she is a mexican—american federat— herein, she is a mexican—american federaljudge and he has been doing this for— federaljudge and he has been doing this for long time and i was a republican for 30 years and i'm a political— republican for 30 years and i'm a political independent reading and democratic primaries in minnesota, i plan to— democratic primaries in minnesota, i plan to vote — democratic primaries in minnesota, i plan to vote in the republican primary— plan to vote in the republican primary for one of the other candidates because we have two well—functioning political bodies in the united states and have someone with this _
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the united states and have someone with this attitude towards the law, towards _ with this attitude towards the law, towardsjudges and with this attitude towards the law, towards judges and towards the rule of law— towards judges and towards the rule of law be _ towards judges and towards the rule of law be president again would be an extraordinary risk against the united _ an extraordinary risk against the united states and the republican party— united states and the republican party can— united states and the republican party can find a better nominee to run for— party can find a better nominee to run for president in the video into a country— run for president in the video into a country to— run for president in the video into a country to do that and have a good chance _ a country to do that and have a good chance of— a country to do that and have a good chance of winning if they can find nominee — chance of winning if they can find nominee who doesn't have these problems— nominee who doesn't have these problems with the law and we live in a representative democracy and those were not— a representative democracy and those were not politically allied with either — were not politically allied with either parties, we are sick and tired _ either parties, we are sick and tired of— either parties, we are sick and tired of this and we are not going to put— tired of this and we are not going to put up— tired of this and we are not going to put up with this type of rhetoric come _ to put up with this type of rhetoric come november 2024. to put up with this type of rhetoric come november2024. in to put up with this type of rhetoric come november 2024. in donald trump is lost _ come november 2024. in donald trump is lost last— come november 2024. in donald trump is lost last three election cycles to the _ is lost last three election cycles to the democrats because of his own conduct. _ to the democrats because of his own conduct. not— to the democrats because of his own conduct, not because the democrats had a _ conduct, not because the democrats had a particularly compelling message or candidates, the real
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problem — message or candidates, the real problem for the republicans and 2018. _ problem for the republicans and 2018, 2020 in 2022 is donald trump. we do _ 2018, 2020 in 2022 is donald trump. we do not _ 2018, 2020 in 2022 is donald trump. we do not have very long left. if any one of the 78 charges that he is facing is held up, it would be because he is deceitful. his view of the law, history of democracy, etc be the commander—in—chief that the united states want the next time around? ., �* , , , around? no. but it is the republican -a around? no. but it is the republican party wants — around? no. but it is the republican party wants and _ around? no. but it is the republican party wants and that _ around? no. but it is the republican party wants and that is _ around? no. but it is the republican party wants and that is where - around? no. but it is the republican party wants and that is where we - party wants and that is where we are. party wants and that is where we are they— party wants and that is where we are they want _ party wants and that is where we are. they want to _ party wants and that is where we are. they want to disrupt - party wants and that is where we are. they want to disrupt the - party wants and that is where we i are. they want to disrupt the force in washington. _ are. they want to disrupt the force in washington, dc. _ are. they want to disrupt the force in washington, dc. this— are. they want to disrupt the force in washington, dc. this is- are. they want to disrupt the force in washington, dc. this is systeml in washington, dc. this is system going _ in washington, dc. this is system going back— in washington, dc. this is system going back to— in washington, dc. this is system going back to 2016 _ in washington, dc. this is system going back to 2016 and _ in washington, dc. this is system going back to 2016 and he - in washington, dc. this is system going back to 2016 and he so - in washington, dc. this is systeml going back to 2016 and he so most in washington, dc. this is system . going back to 2016 and he so most of the stronger— going back to 2016 and he so most of the stronger position _ going back to 2016 and he so most of the stronger position today— going back to 2016 and he so most of the stronger position today than - the stronger position today than when _ the stronger position today than when the — the stronger position today than when the presidency _ the stronger position today than when the presidency in - the stronger position today than when the presidency in 2020. i the stronger position today than - when the presidency in 2020. there is an anger— when the presidency in 2020. there is an anger there, _ when the presidency in 2020. there is an anger there, dysfunction - when the presidency in 2020. there is an anger there, dysfunction therej is an anger there, dysfunction there and something _ is an anger there, dysfunction there and something that _ is an anger there, dysfunction there and something that is _ is an anger there, dysfunction there and something that is not _ is an anger there, dysfunction there and something that is not working l and something that is not working the people — and something that is not working the people are _ and something that is not working the people are feeling _ and something that is not working the people are feeling regardlessl and something that is not working i the people are feeling regardless of
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all of his— the people are feeling regardless of all of his sins. — the people are feeling regardless of all of his sins, his _ the people are feeling regardless of all of his sins, his peers _ the people are feeling regardless of all of his sins, his peers are - all of his sins, his peers are witiing _ all of his sins, his peers are witiing to _ all of his sins, his peers are willing to fight _ all of his sins, his peers are willing to fight for - all of his sins, his peers are willing to fight for those - all of his sins, his peers are - willing to fight for those people and that's— willing to fight for those people and that's why _ willing to fight for those people and that's why we _ willing to fight for those people and that's why we have - willing to fight for those people and that's why we have a - willing to fight for those people i and that's why we have a number willing to fight for those people - and that's why we have a number of republicans — and that's why we have a number of republicans who— and that's why we have a number of republicans who do _ and that's why we have a number of republicans who do not _ and that's why we have a number of republicans who do not want - and that's why we have a number of republicans who do not want to - and that's why we have a number of republicans who do not want to a i republicans who do not want to a president — republicans who do not want to a president trump _ republicans who do not want to a president trump because - republicans who do not want to a president trump because they . republicans who do not want to a . president trump because they were feel it's _ president trump because they were feel it's an— president trump because they were feel it's an attack— president trump because they were feel it's an attack on _ president trump because they were feel it's an attack on the _ president trump because they were feel it's an attack on the base - president trump because they were feel it's an attack on the base and l feel it's an attack on the base and the basis — feel it's an attack on the base and the basis what _ feel it's an attack on the base and the basis what is _ feel it's an attack on the base and the basis what is driving - feel it's an attack on the base and the basis what is driving the - feel it's an attack on the base and the basis what is driving the head| the basis what is driving the head of the _ the basis what is driving the head of the republican _ the basis what is driving the head of the republican party _ the basis what is driving the head of the republican party but - the basis what is driving the head of the republican party but not i of the republican party but not necessarity— of the republican party but not necessarily the _ of the republican party but not necessarily the heart _ of the republican party but not necessarily the heart stop - of the republican party but not necessarily the heart stop by i of the republican party but not - necessarily the heart stop by people not wanting — necessarily the heart stop by people not wanting an — necessarily the heart stop by people not wanting an election _ necessarily the heart stop by people not wanting an election and - necessarily the heart stop by people not wanting an election and my - not wanting an election and my focus on other— not wanting an election and my focus on other world — not wanting an election and my focus on other world events. _ not wanting an election and my focus on other world events. the _ not wanting an election and my focus on other world events.— on other world events. the outside world looking _ on other world events. the outside world looking in _ on other world events. the outside world looking in on _ on other world events. the outside world looking in on this, _ on other world events. the outside world looking in on this, i'm - on other world events. the outside | world looking in on this, i'm always struck by looking for them thinking, how are world leaders going to react what donald trump presidency part two? clearly, does implications for ukrainian europeans and ukrainians went up to start thinking about that now. but how did the allies respond to a country that elects a president who was involved in so much conspiracy, deceit the allegations? even believing the allegations there are many who are comfortable with
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the trumpet and they will be this time around.— poland, hungary, turkey, and you have india where much better relationship of the united states than you had ten years ago and they'll be true no matter who comes in. but for the uk of the germans, or the french are the canadians of the japanese, the porch is seven allies, these are countries that need multilateralism. they need rule of law, they need values that feel like a shared consensus between them and the advanced industrial democracies of the world. and donald trump threatens that. the first time trump threatens that. the first time trump was president, there was no global crisis that they were dealing with saying that they are challenges with saying that they are challenges with him, the nato summits, the g7,
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ultimately, there wasn't much existential danger. if trump wins this time around, not only is the us democracy week and it wasn't before, there were severe crises globally there were severe crises globally the required us leadership without lights. and donald trump is not isolationist but he is a unilateral. and i deeply challenge the number of the most important alliances that the most important alliances that the united states has run the world. how would it affect the cause of democracy around the world to give a president of is elected who is quashing criminal charges that he is facing in his writing roughshod over the legal process, he is dismantling federal institutions in washington and acting like an autocrat. but what i do for the cause of democracy around the world —— what would that do?
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around the world -- what would that do? ,, ., around the world -- what would that do? ., ., ,, do? the soviet union collapsed because democracy _ do? the soviet union collapsed because democracy became - do? the soviet union collapsed | because democracy became the principal system for people to integrate towards, you cannot save it any more. democracy is no longer viewed by countries around the world is unquestionably the best system and in part, of course, but for the most powerful country that aims to be a democracy is increasingly not a functional democracy and increasingly not a representative democracy and it is certainly a reelection of donald trump, given the severity of the presidential indictments and given the nature of the country after selected, i think that would only strengthen that. to sum up this evening, what do you think the body politics is today in the united states would sort of election to think is to be interested 24?—
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election to think is to be interested 24? , , ., ., , interested 24? this is going to be an election _ interested 24? this is going to be an election making _ interested 24? this is going to be an election making sure - interested 24? this is going to be an election making sure the - an election making sure the independent _ an election making sure the independent voters - an election making sure the independent voters do - an election making sure the independent voters do not i an election making sure the i independent voters do not turn an election making sure the - independent voters do not turn out. that's_ independent voters do not turn out. that's when— independent voters do not turn out. that's when blow _ independent voters do not turn out. that's when blow after _ independent voters do not turn out. that's when blow after blow- independent voters do not turn out. that's when blow after blow and - that's when blow after blow and painting — that's when blow after blow and painting a — that's when blow after blow and painting a picture _ that's when blow after blow and painting a picture of— that's when blow after blow and painting a picture of somethingl painting a picture of something happening _ painting a picture of something happening at _ painting a picture of something happening at conventions - painting a picture of somethingl happening at conventions that's probably— happening at conventions that's probably the _ happening at conventions that's probably the brightest - happening at conventions that's probably the brightest picture i happening at conventions that's - probably the brightest picture we're lloii'i probably the brightest picture we're going to _ probably the brightest picture we're going to see — probably the brightest picture we're going to see next— probably the brightest picture we're going to see next definitely- probably the brightest picture we're going to see next definitely going i going to see next definitely going to be _ going to see next definitely going to be hundred _ going to see next definitely going to be hundred biden, _ going to see next definitely going to be hundred biden, donald - going to see next definitely going i to be hundred biden, donald trump and joe _ to be hundred biden, donald trump and joe biden— to be hundred biden, donald trump and joe biden corruption, _ to be hundred biden, donald trump and joe biden corruption, all- to be hundred biden, donald trump and joe biden corruption, all thesel and joe biden corruption, all these things— and joe biden corruption, all these things that — and joe biden corruption, all these things that we _ and joe biden corruption, all these things that we do _ and joe biden corruption, all these things that we do not _ and joe biden corruption, all these things that we do not want - and joe biden corruption, all these things that we do not want to - and joe biden corruption, all these things that we do not want to take | things that we do not want to take place _ things that we do not want to take place will take _ things that we do not want to take place will take place _ things that we do not want to take place will take place in— things that we do not want to take place will take place in the - place will take place in the selection _ place will take place in the selection. —— _ place will take place in the selection. —— this - place will take place in the| selection. —— this election. place will take place in the selection. -- this election. thank ou for selection. -- this election. thank you for your _ selection. -- this election. thank you for your expertise _ selection. -- this election. thank you for your expertise guiding - selection. -- this election. thank you for your expertise guiding us| you for your expertise guiding us through offences donald trump is indicted for the third time in four months. live pictures as they approached reagan national airport in washington, dc the president about to leave for newjersey and were watching very closely and will continue to bring live pictures and reactions from washington, dc and will wait and see whether the president will speak on the apron of the airport before he gets on the
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plane and you can watch all of that and world news america and for all of our viewers, uk viewers a reviewers, there will be world news america in be brought all the latest. to stay with us on this historical night. i'm sumi somaskanda in washington and this is bbc world news america. welcome to world news america. we're following breaking news. former us president donald trump has just pleaded not guilty to four charges against him relating to january 6 and the efforts to overturn the 2020 us election. this is trump's third indictment this year, live pictures here is the president and his motorcade arrived at reagan national airport. and his motorcade arrived at reagan nationalairport. his and his motorcade arrived at reagan national airport. his third indictment this year with the potential out of georgia likely to come this month. he appeared in courtjust blocks from the capitol building,
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where the events of january 6 played out, when a pro—trump mob stormed the capitol as lawmakers worked to certify the 2020 presidential election. this is at the centre of this indictment that the former president, trump was arraigned on today. rioters came from a rally where trump repeated claims that the election was stolen from him, something he had been saying for weeks. at that very courthouse some have been charged and tried for their role in that rights. more than a thousand have been charged in connection with events of january 6. as we are looking at the pictures of the president's motorcade arriving at that airport. we will tell you what happened today. trump flew into dc from newjersey, before making his way to the courthouse, where supporters and protesters waited outside. no—one got glimpse of the former president as he entered the courthouse through a garage
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and made his way to the court room through back corridors.

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