tv Nicky Campbell BBC News August 21, 2023 9:00am-10:01am BST
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women play in more and let the women play in more feminine clothes they do in volleyball. they could for example have tighter shorts". there was an outcry then, scarcely believable then, unbelievable now. we have come a long way, haven't we? we have come 1 million miles but there is still a long way to go. women's sports, athletics, tennis, cricket, netball, whatever, wherever. maybe a —— your child plays sports like grassroots level — great to hear from you. do you think the teachers go above and beyond to ensure access for all? let's get into participation, financing, all of that. women's sport — the way ahead.
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people can get a chance to tell us what they are thinking. and as an opportunity to find out what is going on out there. here the news. lucy letby is to be sentenced today for murdering seven babies and attempting to kill another six at the countess of chester hospital where she worked as a nurse. her lawyers have indicated she won't attend the hearing. her case has led to renewed calls for a law that would compel offenders to attend court for sentencing. southern california has been hit by tropical storm hilary. a state of emergency has been declared as record rainfall has caused flash flooding in los angeles. in the british columbia province of canada, the military is being brought
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in to tackle wildfires. 30,000 have been told to evacuate. the human rights watch organisation has accused saudi arabian border guards of killing hundreds of migrants — many of them ethiopians trying to cross from war—torn yemen. the un made similar allegations last year. saudi arabia has previously rejected the claims.nhs england has teamed up saudi arabia has previously rejected the claims. nhs england has teamed up with morrisons to raise awareness of the symptoms of some cancers. labels in bras and underpants will urge people to look out for any symptoms of breast or testicular cancer and for shoppers to see their gp if they spot anything unusal. imean, pay i mean, pay is a part of it but it's a complex matter. i suppose it's the pay is about recognition. the lionesses received a bonus of £55,000 each from the fa for winning the euros. the england men would
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have got half a million each if they had won the 2022 world cup in qatar. that is part of this debate. this conversation is about your experiences. what is it like out there? how far do we still need to go? if you are involved, you know better than anyone the answer to that question. 08085 909693. i remember the radio and tv debates in the �*80s, questions like, should women be boxing? is it right that women be boxing? is it right that women play football? not long ago. it's incredible. let's speak to rachel 0'sullivan, co—host of girls on the bore podcast. —— girls on the ball. there is a lot of upset in my house at the moment. we were so into this, but it was terrific in its own
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way. leanne in warwick, claire in warminster, chloe in cornwall, hello to all of you. leanne, you won six tennis clubs. what is the state of play with you?— tennis clubs. what is the state of play with you? that's right, we run “unior and play with you? that's right, we run junior and adult _ play with you? that's right, we run junior and adult tennis _ play with you? that's right, we run junior and adult tennis for - play with you? that's right, we run junior and adult tennis for boys - play with you? that's right, we run | junior and adult tennis for boys and girls _ junior and adult tennis for boys and girls but _ junior and adult tennis for boys and girls. but recently, we have been setting _ girls. but recently, we have been setting up— girls. but recently, we have been setting up girls only groups sponsored by amazon to get more -irls sponsored by amazon to get more girls into _ sponsored by amazon to get more girls into sport after emma won the us open _ girls into sport after emma won the us open. it's brought a lot of girls into it _ us open. it's brought a lot of girls into it now— us open. it's brought a lot of girls into it. now it is about trying to keep— into it. now it is about trying to keep them _ into it. now it is about trying to keep them in it.— into it. now it is about trying to keep them in it. what difference did emirati carnew's _ keep them in it. what difference did emirati carnew's victory _ keep them in it. what difference did emirati carnew's victory make? - keep them in it. what difference did emirati carnew's victory make? did | emirati carnew's victory make? did you see —— what difference did emma raducanu's victory make? it you see -- what difference did emma raducanu's victory make?— raducanu's victory make? it had an im act raducanu's victory make? it had an impact and — raducanu's victory make? it had an impact and the _ raducanu's victory make? it had an impact and the money _ raducanu's victory make? it had an impact and the money amazon - raducanu's victory make? it had an impact and the money amazon are | impact and the money amazon are putting _ impact and the money amazon are putting and has made a huge
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difference.— putting and has made a huge difference. ., ., , ~ difference. claire, what is it like with you? _ difference. claire, what is it like with you? we — difference. claire, what is it like with you? we are _ difference. claire, what is it like with you? we are on _ difference. claire, what is it like with you? we are on an - difference. claire, what is it like with you? we are on an upward | difference. claire, what is it like - with you? we are on an upward spiral aaain after with you? we are on an upward spiral again after the _ with you? we are on an upward spiral again after the england _ with you? we are on an upward spiral again after the england rugby - with you? we are on an upward spiral again after the england rugby girls i again after the england rugby girls won the _ again after the england rugby girls won the six nations and we had 58.000 — won the six nations and we had 58,000 at twickenham, one of the biggest _ 58,000 at twickenham, one of the biggest crowds ever. for me personally tonight, we have over 70 -irls personally tonight, we have over 70 girls in— personally tonight, we have over 70 girls in the — personally tonight, we have over 70 girls in the north of wiltshire trying — girls in the north of wiltshire trying for— girls in the north of wiltshire trying for the england rugby under 16 development programme, which is incredible _ 16 development programme, which is incredible. how 16 development programme, which is incredible. ., ., , 16 development programme, which is incredible. ., ., incredible. how does it compare to ten ears incredible. how does it compare to ten years ago? _ incredible. how does it compare to ten years ago? it's _ incredible. how does it compare to ten years ago? it's massive - incredible. how does it compare to ten years ago? it's massive now. l incredible. how does it compare to l ten years ago? it's massive now. all female sport. _ ten years ago? it's massive now. all female sport, the _ ten years ago? it's massive now. all female sport, the more _ ten years ago? it's massive now. all female sport, the more exposure i ten years ago? it's massive now. all| female sport, the more exposure the -irls female sport, the more exposure the girls are _ female sport, the more exposure the girls are getting, the more they want _ girls are getting, the more they want to— girls are getting, the more they want to try. schools are now absorbing _ want to try. schools are now absorbing the fact that the girls are interested in sport, where normally, _ are interested in sport, where normally, girls stop playing sport at 12 or _ normally, girls stop playing sport at 12 or 13 — normally, girls stop playing sport at 12 or 13 years old. if we can keep— at 12 or 13 years old. if we can keep the _ at 12 or 13 years old. if we can keep the wheel turning, we will have more _ keep the wheel turning, we will have more incredible sportswomen in future — more incredible sportswomen in future. �* . , ., , more incredible sportswomen in future. �* ., , ~ , ., more incredible sportswomen in future. �* ., , ., , future. and that is key to this, leanne. the _
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future. and that is key to this, leanne. the more _ future. and that is key to this, leanne. the more exposure, i future. and that is key to this, i leanne. the more exposure, the future. and that is key to this, - leanne. the more exposure, the more participation, the more inspiration, the more success. a self—fulfilling prophecy, leanne? the more success. a self-fulfilling prephecy. leanne?— prophecy, leanne? definitely. for us, we prophecy, leanne? definitely. for us. we are — prophecy, leanne? definitely. for us, we are looking _ prophecy, leanne? definitely. for us, we are looking for _ prophecy, leanne? definitely. for us, we are looking for role - prophecy, leanne? definitely. for. us, we are looking for role models. it us, we are looking for role models. it could _ us, we are looking for role models. it could he — us, we are looking for role models. it could he the _ us, we are looking for role models. it could be the england _ us, we are looking for role models. it could be the england football - it could be the england football yesterday — it could be the england football yesterday or _ it could be the england football yesterday or emma _ it could be the england football yesterday or emma raducanu. i it could be the england footballl yesterday or emma raducanu. it it could be the england football - yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more _ yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more girls— yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more girls into — yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more girls into sports. _ yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more girls into sports. for— yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more girls into sports. for us - yesterday or emma raducanu. it gets more girls into sports. for us in - more girls into sports. for us in tennis. — more girls into sports. for us in tennis. we _ more girls into sports. for us in tennis. we need _ more girls into sports. for us in tennis, we need more - more girls into sports. for us in tennis, we need more female . more girls into sports. for us in - tennis, we need more female coaches as well— tennis, we need more female coaches as well so— tennis, we need more female coaches as well so they — tennis, we need more female coaches as well so they have _ tennis, we need more female coaches as well so they have more _ tennis, we need more female coaches as well so they have more role - as well so they have more role models — as well so they have more role models to— as well so they have more role models to meet. _ as well so they have more role models to meet. but - as well so they have more role models to meet. but there - as well so they have more role i models to meet. but there aren't many— models to meet. but there aren't many and — models to meet. but there aren't many and that _ models to meet. but there aren't many and that makes _ models to meet. but there aren't many and that makes a _ models to meet. but there aren't many and that makes a huge - many and that makes a huge difference _ many and that makes a huge difference.— many and that makes a huge difference._ i - many and that makes a huge i difference._ i don't difference. why is that? i don't really know- — difference. why is that? i don't really know. it _ difference. why is that? i don't really know. it is _ difference. why is that? i don't really know. it is more - difference. why is that? i don't really know. it is more of - difference. why is that? i don't really know. it is more of a - difference. why is that? i don't. really know. it is more of a male dominated — really know. it is more of a male dominated sport. _ really know. it is more of a male dominated sport. i— really know. it is more of a male dominated sport. i know- really know. it is more of a male dominated sport. i know the - really know. it is more of a male dominated sport. i know the lta really know. it is more of a male - dominated sport. i know the lta and amazon— dominated sport. i know the lta and amazon are — dominated sport. i know the lta and amazon are trying _ dominated sport. i know the lta and amazon are trying to _ dominated sport. i know the lta and amazon are trying to change - dominated sport. i know the lta and amazon are trying to change that. dominated sport. i know the lta andl amazon are trying to change that and do more _ amazon are trying to change that and do more female — amazon are trying to change that and do more female only— amazon are trying to change that and do more female only courses. - amazon are trying to change that and do more female only courses. it's - do more female only courses. it's not easy — do more female only courses. it's not easy i— do more female only courses. it's not easy i have _ do more female only courses. it's not easy. i have three _ do more female only courses. it's not easy. i have three girls- do more female only courses. it's not easy. i have three girls and i not easy. i have three girls and it's not— not easy. i have three girls and it's not easy— not easy. i have three girls and it's not easy to— not easy. i have three girls and it's not easy to get _ not easy. i have three girls and it's not easy to get back - not easy. i have three girls and it's not easy to get back into i not easy. i have three girls and . it's not easy to get back into work after— it's not easy to get back into work after having — it's not easy to get back into work after having children. _ it's not easy to get back into work after having children. childcare i it's not easy to get back into work after having children. childcare is| after having children. childcare is so exaensive _ after having children. childcare is so exaensive i_ after having children. childcare is so expensive. i am _ after having children. childcare is so expensive. i am lucky- after having children. childcare is so expensive. i am lucky i- after having children. childcare is so expensive. i am lucky i can . after having children. childcare is. so expensive. i am lucky i can bring my girls _ so expensive. i am lucky i can bring my girls to— so expensive. i am lucky i can bring my girls to sports _ so expensive. i am lucky i can bring my girls to sports camp _ so expensive. i am lucky i can bring my girls to sports camp this - so expensive. i am lucky i can bring my girls to sports camp this week. i my girls to sports camp this week. but other— my girls to sports camp this week. but other female _ my girls to sports camp this week. but other female coaches, - my girls to sports camp this week.
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but other female coaches, it- my girls to sports camp this week. but other female coaches, it is- my girls to sports camp this week. j but other female coaches, it is not easy _ but other female coaches, it is not easy it _ but other female coaches, it is not easy it can— but other female coaches, it is not easy. it can involve _ but other female coaches, it is not easy. it can involve very _ but other female coaches, it is not| easy. it can involve very unsociable hours _ easy. it can involve very unsociable hours and — easy. it can involve very unsociable hours and it's— easy. it can involve very unsociable hours and it's not— easy. it can involve very unsociable hours and it's not easy _ easy. it can involve very unsociable hours and it's not easy for - easy. it can involve very unsociable hours and it's not easy for a - easy. it can involve very unsociablej hours and it's not easy for a female to get— hours and it's not easy for a female to get back— hours and it's not easy for a female to get back in — hours and it's not easy for a female to get back in after— hours and it's not easy for a female to get back in after they— hours and it's not easy for a female to get back in after they have - hours and it's not easy for a female to get back in after they have had l to get back in after they have had children — to get back in after they have had children. ., ., ., ., children. chloe in cornwall, women and uirls children. chloe in cornwall, women and girls and _ children. chloe in cornwall, women and girls and disability _ children. chloe in cornwall, women and girls and disability football - and girls and disability football officer at cornwall fa. what difference is all this making and what is the state of play with you? we have seen in the football world a massive _ we have seen in the football world a massive boost. winning the euros was fantastic— massive boost. winning the euros was fantastic and getting to the finals, it was— fantastic and getting to the finals, it was not— fantastic and getting to the finals, it was not the result we wanted, but 'ust it was not the result we wanted, but just getting there and being so televised, i have said it before, but it's— televised, i have said it before, but it's getting those role models and getting them to be household names, _ and getting them to be household names, like the other ladies have said _ names, like the other ladies have said it's — names, like the other ladies have said it's all— names, like the other ladies have said. it's all about role models and giving _ said. it's all about role models and giving the — said. it's all about role models and giving the girls at someone that they aspire to be like. change is happening, but we have a long way to lo.
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happening, but we have a long way to o, ., . happening, but we have a long way to to. �* ,, ., happening, but we have a long way to go. rachel o'sullivan, role models are at the heart _ go. rachelo'sullivan, role models are at the heart of— go. rachel o'sullivan, role models are at the heart of this. _ go. rachelo'sullivan, role models are at the heart of this. i _ go. rachel o'sullivan, role models are at the heart of this. i wanted i are at the heart of this. i wanted to be kenny dalglish, but it didn't quite work out. but that's what it's about. ., ., ., , about. yeah, the the age-old face is that if ou about. yeah, the the age-old face is that if you can't _ about. yeah, the the age-old face is that if you can't see _ about. yeah, the the age-old face is that if you can't see it, _ about. yeah, the the age-old face is that if you can't see it, you - about. yeah, the the age-old face is that if you can't see it, you can't - that if you can't see it, you can't beat it. it has never rung more true. when you talk to a lot of players who are my age, their role models were generally male football players because there weren't female football players out there to look up football players out there to look up to. that has changed massively. a lot of the time, it's about showing that it lot of the time, it's about showing thatitis lot of the time, it's about showing that it is an option for girls to play, whether theyjust that it is an option for girls to play, whether they just want to that it is an option for girls to play, whether theyjust want to play for fun or see play, whether theyjust want to play forfun or see it as play, whether theyjust want to play for fun or see it as a play, whether theyjust want to play forfun or see it as a career play, whether theyjust want to play for fun or see it as a career path. we are getting to a point now where girls and boys are seeing both male and female role models, and it is hugely important to grow the sport. so how do we make sure that that happens, taking it to the next level and the level after that? it’s a and the level after that? it's a combination _ and the level after that? it's a combination of _ and the level after that? it's a
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combination of events - and the level after that? it's a combination of events like - and the level after that? it's a j combination of events like the and the level after that? it�*s a. combination of events like the world cup being properly covered in the media. there has been a huge contingent of press over here, covering the english team, which is very different from previous tournaments. that plays a big part. you also need to have the opportunities for those at grassroots level in schools who want to participate in sport. we need to not have girls being told they can't tell —— they can't play a certain sport because of their gender. does that happen? _ sport because of their gender. does that happen? i _ sport because of their gender. does that happen? i am _ sport because of their gender. does that happen? i am sure _ sport because of their gender. does that happen? i am sure it does, but i would like you to expand on that. girls are being told you can't play that, it's a male sport? disk girls are being told you can't play that, it's a male sport?— that, it's a male sport? ask girls what they play — that, it's a male sport? ask girls what they play in _ that, it's a male sport? ask girls what they play in pe _ that, it's a male sport? ask girls what they play in pe versus - that, it's a male sport? ask girls what they play in pe versus what that, it's a male sport? ask girls - what they play in pe versus what the boys play in pe. generally different sports. when i was a kid, i was watching the boys play football and a different pitch, and i was playing rounders or something like that. that is one small example. we don't
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need to gender sports in school. that would be one area we could change. and then with the role models, kids being able to see them on tv week in, week out, knowing that all these different spots, whether it is katarina johnson—thompson or lucy bronze, they are realistic options. johnson-thompson or lucy bronze, they are realistic options.— they are realistic options. claire, they are realistic options. claire, the role model— they are realistic options. claire, the role model aspect _ they are realistic options. claire, the role model aspect of - they are realistic options. claire, the role model aspect of this, i they are realistic options. claire, l the role model aspect of this, you mentioned with emma raducanu. sorry, it was leanne who mentioned it. that is what size it for young people? 100%. that's why it's a shame that emma _ 100%. that's why it's a shame that emma has— 100%. that's why it's a shame that emma has been injured for so long. we were _ emma has been injured for so long. we were lucky that jess carter, who plays _ we were lucky that jess carter, who plays for— we were lucky that jess carter, who plays for the england squad, used to plays for the england squad, used to play with— plays for the england squad, used to play with us. she came and played tennis— play with us. she came and played tennis with — play with us. she came and played tennis with us. as the children get older. _ tennis with us. as the children get older. they— tennis with us. as the children get older, they then choose which sport they would — older, they then choose which sport they would prefer to do. but it is
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giving _ they would prefer to do. but it is giving them a base and letting them choose _ giving them a base and letting them choose whether to or football or rughy~ _ choose whether to or football or rughy~ it — choose whether to or football or rughy~ it is _ choose whether to or football or rugby. it is a private school, but they— rugby. it is a private school, but they are — rugby. it is a private school, but they are doing a lot of cricket for they are doing a lot of cricket for the girls— they are doing a lot of cricket for the girls now, rather than randers. they are _ the girls now, rather than randers. they are doing a lot of football. it is giving _ they are doing a lot of football. it is giving the girls that opportunity. is giving the girls that opportunity-— is giving the girls that ouortuni . ., opportunity. rachel o'sullivan, it does -la opportunity. rachel o'sullivan, it does play a _ opportunity. rachel o'sullivan, it does play a bit — opportunity. rachel o'sullivan, it does play a bit into _ opportunity. rachel o'sullivan, it does play a bit into the _ opportunity. rachel o'sullivan, it| does play a bit into the stereotype or misogyny and sexism. there has been a real fuss about the kiss on the lips. what did you think? i thought it was really creepy and slimy. she was the only player he kissed on the lips. it was uncomfortable to watch. i am also a photographer, so i was watching it live quite up close, pitch side. every player got manhandled, is the best way to describe it. just uncomfortable —looking. there should
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be anything made of it, because if thatis be anything made of it, because if that is what he is doing on the biggest stage with all the cameras on him, i would hate to think what he is doing behind closed doors. yeah, she has played it down a bit, but we don't know what she thinks. maybe that will come out in time. 0bviously, maybe that will come out in time. obviously, there is a power differential. does it tell a story relevant to what we are talking about this morning about attitudes to women? it’s about this morning about attitudes to women? �* , to women? it's the | professionalisation. to women? it's the - professionalisation. we to women? it's the _ professionalisation. we expect to see a _ professionalisation. we expect to see a certain amount of professionalisation in professional sports _ professionalisation in professional sports. this is an elite level sport and it— sports. this is an elite level sport and it shouldn't be happening. there should _ and it shouldn't be happening. there should he _ and it shouldn't be happening. there should be this level of professionalisation or the way through— professionalisation or the way through the sport. and there has been _ through the sport. and there has been a _ through the sport. and there has been a lot— through the sport. and there has been a lot of negative press around the spanish team, which is a shame. thisjust _ the spanish team, which is a shame. thisjust adds to the spanish team, which is a shame. this just adds to it. this the spanish team, which is a shame. thisjust adds to it. this is the spanish team, which is a shame. this just adds to it. this is the best— this just adds to it. this is the best moment of those players' careers, — best moment of those players' careers, and it is marred now by
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more _ careers, and it is marred now by more unusual behaviour. the player did say— more unusual behaviour. the player did say she — more unusual behaviour. the player did say she didn't like it. and a federation— did say she didn't like it. and a federation putting out a statement from the _ federation putting out a statement from the player, a player that drops —— a federation that drops players who disagree with them, how much weight— who disagree with them, how much weight can — who disagree with them, how much weight can you put on that? mitchell charlton, back _ weight can you put on that? mitchell charlton, back to _ weight can you put on that? mitchell charlton, back to the _ weight can you put on that? mitchell charlton, back to the positives, - weight can you put on that? mitchell charlton, back to the positives, you | charlton, back to the positives, you are a football coach with some young players with you, scarlett and annabel. tell us, annabel and scarlett, what did you make of the game yesterday?— game yesterday? well, i wasn't disappointed. — game yesterday? well, i wasn't disappointed, but _ game yesterday? well, i wasn't disappointed, but i _ game yesterday? well, i wasn't disappointed, but i was - game yesterday? well, i wasn't disappointed, but i was upset. l game yesterday? well, i wasn't i disappointed, but i was upset. the -irls disappointed, but i was upset. the girls have — disappointed, but i was upset. the girls have done _ disappointed, but i was upset. the girls have done so _ disappointed, but i was upset. the girls have done so well. _ disappointed, but i was upset. the girls have done so well. they- disappointed, but i was upset. thel girls have done so well. they made it further— girls have done so well. they made it further than— girls have done so well. they made it further than the _ girls have done so well. they made it further than the boys _ girls have done so well. they made it further than the boys and - girls have done so well. they made it further than the boys and they i it further than the boys and they -ot it further than the boys and they got to— it further than the boys and they got to the — it further than the boys and they got to the final _ it further than the boys and they got to the final and _ it further than the boys and they got to the final and they- it further than the boys and they got to the final and they playedl it further than the boys and they i got to the final and they played so -ood got to the final and they played so good and — got to the final and they played so good and they— got to the final and they played so good and they put _ got to the final and they played so good and they put their _ got to the final and they played so good and they put their heart - got to the final and they played so good and they put their heart into| good and they put their heart into it. good and they put their heart into it that's— good and they put their heart into it that's the _ good and they put their heart into it. that's the main— good and they put their heart into it. that's the main thing. - good and they put their heart into it. that's the main thing. and - it. that's the main thing. and scarlett, _ it. that's the main thing. and scarlett, you _ it. that's the main thing. and scarlett, you are _ it. that's the main thing. and scarlett, you are there - it. that's the main thing. and scarlett, you are there as - it. that's the main thing. and i scarlett, you are there as well. they— scarlett, you are there as well. they played _ scarlett, you are there as well. they played really— scarlett, you are there as well. they played really well, -
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they played really well, considering. it they played really well, considering.— they played really well, considerinu. ,, ., ., ., considering. it was inspirational, wasn't it? _ considering. it was inspirational, wasn't it? what _ considering. it was inspirational, wasn't it? what difference - considering. it was inspirational, wasn't it? what difference do - considering. it was inspirational, | wasn't it? what difference do you think it will make, annabel? things are getting betterfor think it will make, annabel? things are getting better for women and girls in sport. you must be seeing around you with your friends, being inspired by some of those great england players. inspired by some of those great england players— inspired by some of those great england players. definitely. it has had such a big _ england players. definitely. it has had such a big impact, _ england players. definitely. it has had such a big impact, especiallyl england players. definitely. it has. had such a big impact, especially on young _ had such a big impact, especially on young girls — had such a big impact, especially on young girls when— had such a big impact, especially on young girls. when they _ had such a big impact, especially on young girls. when they are - had such a big impact, especially onj young girls. when they are watching the lionesses. — young girls. when they are watching the lionesses, they— young girls. when they are watching the lionesses, they think, _ young girls. when they are watching the lionesses, they think, maybe i. the lionesses, they think, maybe i could _ the lionesses, they think, maybe i could do— the lionesses, they think, maybe i could do that _ the lionesses, they think, maybe i could do that. the _ the lionesses, they think, maybe i could do that. the lionesses are l could do that. the lionesses are such— could do that. the lionesses are such a _ could do that. the lionesses are such a big — could do that. the lionesses are such a big inspiration _ could do that. the lionesses are such a big inspiration to - could do that. the lionesses are such a big inspiration to young l such a big inspiration to young girls— such a big inspiration to young girls everywhere. _ such a big inspiration to young girls everywhere. and - such a big inspiration to young girls everywhere. and they - such a big inspiration to young i girls everywhere. and they have such a big inspiration to young - girls everywhere. and they have done so welt _ girls everywhere. and they have done so welt hie _ girls everywhere. and they have done so well. ~ . , girls everywhere. and they have done so well. ~ ., , ., ~ girls everywhere. and they have done so well. ~ ., , ., ,, ., so well. we have been talking about how important _ so well. we have been talking about how important role _ so well. we have been talking about how important role models - so well. we have been talking about how important role models are. - how important role models are. scarlett, who is your role model? i think chloe kelly. she played really well in _ think chloe kelly. she played really well in the finals, considering she didn't— well in the finals, considering she didn't have — well in the finals, considering she didn't have much game time. they had
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better— didn't have much game time. they had better shots _ didn't have much game time. they had better shots on target. they were getting _ better shots on target. they were getting close to the goal. she better shots on target. they were getting close to the goal.- getting close to the goal. she is remarkable- _ getting close to the goal. she is remarkable. it's _ getting close to the goal. she is remarkable. it's who _ getting close to the goal. she is remarkable. it's who you - getting close to the goal. she is remarkable. it's who you want l getting close to the goal. she is| remarkable. it's who you want to getting close to the goal. she is - remarkable. it's who you want to be when you are young. what about you, annabelle? ., , , ., , annabelle? probably lower in hemp, even though — annabelle? probably lower in hemp, even though i— annabelle? probably lower in hemp, even though i love _ annabelle? probably lower in hemp, even though i love mary _ annabelle? probably lower in hemp, even though i love mary earps - even though i love mary earps because — even though i love mary earps because she _ even though i love mary earps because she is _ even though i love mary earps because she is such— even though i love mary earps because she is such a - even though i love mary earps because she is such a good i because she is such a good goalkeeper— because she is such a good goalkeeper and _ because she is such a good goalkeeper and she - because she is such a good goalkeeper and she savedl because she is such a good i goalkeeper and she saved us because she is such a good - goalkeeper and she saved us a lot of times _ goalkeeper and she saved us a lot of times but _ goalkeeper and she saved us a lot of times. but lauren _ goalkeeper and she saved us a lot of times. but lauren hemp _ goalkeeper and she saved us a lot of times. but lauren hemp because - goalkeeper and she saved us a lot ofi times. but lauren hemp because she is such— times. but lauren hemp because she is such a _ times. but lauren hemp because she is such a strong — times. but lauren hemp because she is such a strong player. _ times. but lauren hemp because she is such a strong player. when- times. but lauren hemp because she is such a strong player. when she - is such a strong player. when she has the _ is such a strong player. when she has the ball. _ is such a strong player. when she has the ball, it — is such a strong player. when she has the ball, it is _ is such a strong player. when she has the ball, it is hers. _ is such a strong player. when she has the ball, it is hers. she - is such a strong player. when she has the ball, it is hers. she is- is such a strong player. when she has the ball, it is hers. she is so. has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick— has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick down— has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick down the _ has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick down the line, _ has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick down the line, i _ has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick down the line, i love - has the ball, it is hers. she is so quick down the line, i love her. i has the ball, it is hers. she is so. quick down the line, i love her. you cu s quick down the line, i love her. you guys should — quick down the line, i love her. you guys should be _ quick down the line, i love her. guys should be on the experts quick down the line, i love her.“ guys should be on the experts panel! you have a depth of knowledge that we sometimes do not see an expert panels. mitchell, who was your role model growing up? i am panels. mitchell, who was your role model growing op?— panels. mitchell, who was your role model growing up? i am a big man utd fan, so m model growing up? i am a big man utd fan. so my role — model growing up? i am a big man utd fan, so my role model— model growing up? i am a big man utd fan, so my role modelwas _ model growing up? i am a big man utd fan, so my role model was andy - model growing up? i am a big man utd fan, so my role model was andy cole. l fan, so my role model was andy cole. hang on, annabelle is having a go at
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you! hang on, annabelle is having a go at ou! ., , , , ., hang on, annabelle is having a go at ou! ., , , ,., a, and you! no, i support man utd too! andy cole was my — you! no, i support man utd too! andy cole was my role _ you! no, i support man utd too! andy cole was my role model _ you! no, i support man utd too! andy cole was my role model growing - you! no, i support man utd too! andy cole was my role model growing up. i cole was my role model growing up. but in terms of the lionesses, one of the key thing is for me as a young black boy then was representation. forthe young black boy then was representation. for the girls within our team, representation matters and it has been key. we have seen a massive impact since the euro is. and also in terms of the funding we have received, the national lottery has enabled us to take it to the next level. and just seeing how far the lionesses have got. but also seeing how the women's game in particular across the world, with all the countries getting closer to each other in terms of competitive games, has been inspirational. it's a shame about the results yesterday. we were willing the lionesses on. but we are proud, it particularly for the representation of young
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girls within our club. they can see, that could be me one day. and we are based in wembley as well. getting to see them sometimes at wembley stadium has been amazing and long may it continue. but stadium has been amazing and long may it continue.— may it continue. but were in spain brilliant, annabelle? _ may it continue. but were in spain brilliant, annabelle? they - may it continue. but were in spain brilliant, annabelle? they were i brilliant, annabelle? they were cood, brilliant, annabelle? they were good. but _ brilliant, annabelle? they were good. but at — brilliant, annabelle? they were good, but at the _ brilliant, annabelle? they were good, but at the bottom - brilliant, annabelle? they were good, but at the bottom of- brilliant, annabelle? they were good, but at the bottom of my | brilliant, annabelle? they were - good, but at the bottom of my heart, i good, but at the bottom of my heart, i still— good, but at the bottom of my heart, i still feel— good, but at the bottom of my heart, i still feel like — good, but at the bottom of my heart, i still feel like we _ good, but at the bottom of my heart, i still feel like we should _ good, but at the bottom of my heart, i still feel like we should have - i still feel like we should have won — i still feel like we should have won i— i still feel like we should have won i came _ i still feel like we should have won. i came in— i still feel like we should have won. i came in watching - i still feel like we should have won. i came in watching thatl i still feel like we should have - won. i came in watching that game not even _ won. i came in watching that game not even thinking _ won. i came in watching that game not even thinking spain _ won. i came in watching that game not even thinking spain were - won. i came in watching that gamej not even thinking spain were going to win _ not even thinking spain were going to win i_ not even thinking spain were going to win iwas— not even thinking spain were going to win. i was like, _ not even thinking spain were going to win. i was like, we _ not even thinking spain were going to win. i was like, we are - not even thinking spain were going to win. i was like, we are going - not even thinking spain were going to win. i was like, we are going tol to win. i was like, we are going to lift the _ to win. i was like, we are going to lift the trophy _ to win. i was like, we are going to lift the trophy. but _ to win. i was like, we are going to lift the trophy. but when - to win. i was like, we are going to lift the trophy. but when we - to win. i was like, we are going to. lift the trophy. but when we didn't, i lift the trophy. but when we didn't, iwasn't _ lift the trophy. but when we didn't, i wasn't disappointed. _ lift the trophy. but when we didn't, i wasn't disappointed. i— lift the trophy. but when we didn't, i wasn't disappointed. i was- lift the trophy. but when we didn't, i wasn't disappointed. i was still. i wasn't disappointed. i was still proud _ iwasn't disappointed. i was still proud of— i wasn't disappointed. i was still proud of the _ i wasn't disappointed. i was still proud of the girls, _ iwasn't disappointed. i was still proud of the girls, they- i wasn't disappointed. i was still proud of the girls, they have - i wasn't disappointed. i was still. proud of the girls, they have done so welt _ proud of the girls, they have done so well. ::j~:::~ p'°“d °f the girls, they have done so well. :::~:::~ q; - i, proud of the girls, they have done sowell. ::j~::j~ '::' .,. so well. 08085 909693, get in touch. this is 5 live, — so well. 08085 909693, get in touch. this is 5 live, ssc — so well. 08085 909693, get in touch. this is 5 live, bbc two _ so well. 08085 909693, get in touch. this is 5 live, bbc two and _ so well. 08085 909693, get in touch. this is 5 live, bbc two and bbc - this is 5 live, bbc two and bbc news. i have some breaking news now.
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we will discuss this after ten o'clock. that is when the sentencing starts. just some breaking news about one of the key figures in the lucy letby case. alison kelly is the former director of nursing at the countess of chester hospital during the time when letby murdered and seriously injured babies in her care. nhs england has now confirmed that she has been suspended. a spokesperson for the organisation said we welcome the independent inquiry announced by the department of health and social care into the events at the countess of chester and will cooperate fully to help ensure all lessons are learned. in light of information that has emerged during the trial of lucy letby, and the announcement of the independent inquiry, the northern care alliance has suspended alison kelly. lucy letby s trial heard how warnings about the nurse s behaviour
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were ignored by alison kelly and other senior managers. that news again about one of the key figures in the lucy letby case. alison kelly is the former director of nursing at the countess of chester hospital during the time when letby murdered and seriously injured babies in her care. nhs england has now confirmed that she has been suspended. we will be discussing this on the radio after ten o'clock. there will be more on the bbc news website and 3pp be more on the bbc news website and app throughout the day and of course on bbc radio 5 live. the sentencing starts after ten o'clock. we are talking about women's sport this morning. what is the state of play?
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it's been a long road. as they say, it's been a greatjourney. let's hear sean in lincolnshire. you are a coach. where are you with all this? i have four adult daughters. two of them were so invested in this. they were just numb after the result. but were just numb after the result. but we want the bigger picture from you, sean. 3, , we want the bigger picture from you, sean. , , we want the bigger picture from you, sean. , ., sean. basically, i coached and then i left sean. basically, i coached and then i left because _ sean. basically, i coached and then i left because of— sean. basically, i coached and then i left because of the _ sean. basically, i coached and then i left because of the birth _ sean. basically, i coached and then i left because of the birth of - sean. basically, i coached and then i left because of the birth of my - i left because of the birth of my daughter— i left because of the birth of my daughter and then i came back with an under— daughter and then i came back with an under 12 — daughter and then i came back with an under12 team daughter and then i came back with an under 12 team and we started off with three _ an under 12 team and we started off with three children, but gradually it has— with three children, but gradually it has grown and grown and we are nowup— it has grown and grown and we are now up to — it has grown and grown and we are now up to 25, and that is due to the exposure _ now up to 25, and that is due to the exposure of— now up to 25, and that is due to the exposure of the lionesses and women's — exposure of the lionesses and women's sport in general. but i also work— women's sport in general. but i also work in _ women's sport in general. but i also work in a _ women's sport in general. but i also work in a primary school. and it has been _ work in a primary school. and it has been fantastic as a teacher to see
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sports _ been fantastic as a teacher to see sports clubs at lunchtime and after school _ sports clubs at lunchtime and after school are — sports clubs at lunchtime and after school are not dominated by boys any more _ school are not dominated by boys any more the _ school are not dominated by boys any more. the girls going as well. it's brilliant — more. the girls going as well. it's brilliant. ~ ., ., , , brilliant. what about girls playing with bo s? brilliant. what about girls playing with boys? they _ brilliant. what about girls playing with boys? they could, _ brilliant. what about girls playing with boys? they could, some - brilliant. what about girls playing with boys? they could, some of i brilliant. what about girls playing - with boys? they could, some of them. is that a with boys? they could, some of them. is that a good — with boys? they could, some of them. is that a good thing? _ with boys? they could, some of them. is that a good thing? it's _ is that a good thing? it's brilliant. _ is that a good thing? it's brilliant. obviously, the boys have that confidence and dare i say that cockiness — that confidence and dare i say that cockiness. they get knocked down a pa l cockiness. they get knocked down a peg or _ cockiness. they get knocked down a peg or 21 _ cockiness. they get knocked down a peg or 21 they get beaten by a girl. in peg or 21 they get beaten by a girl. in that _ peg or 21 they get beaten by a girl. in that stigma of boys being better than girls— in that stigma of boys being better than girls at football is now fizzling _ than girls at football is now fizzling out, especially at the school — fizzling out, especially at the school i _ fizzling out, especially at the school i work out. and there is, not a respect, — school i work out. and there is, not a respect, but if you think that when — a respect, but if you think that when i — a respect, but if you think that when i was at school, you would very rarely _ when i was at school, you would very rarely ever— when i was at school, you would very rarely ever get any of the girls playing — rarely ever get any of the girls playing football, but now the girls are happy tojoin in. and the teachers _ are happy tojoin in. and the teachers and coaches i work with
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promote — teachers and coaches i work with promote that. just because you are a boy, it _ promote that. just because you are a boy, it doesn't mean you are better at football— boy, it doesn't mean you are better at football than the girls. and we say to— at football than the girls. and we say to the — at football than the girls. and we say to the girls who are not as confident— say to the girls who are not as confident to play with the boys, have _ confident to play with the boys, have a — confident to play with the boys, have a go _ confident to play with the boys, have a go. a lot of the parents of the girls— have a go. a lot of the parents of the girls who are coming say, she has never— the girls who are coming say, she has never played football before. and we _ has never played football before. and we always open it up by saying, that's— and we always open it up by saying, that's fine, — and we always open it up by saying, that's fine, we all have to start somewhere. i at one point had never played _ somewhere. i at one point had never played football before. but you learn _ played football before. but you learn by — played football before. but you learn by making those mistakes. if you get— learn by making those mistakes. if you get rid — learn by making those mistakes. if you get rid of that, it builds the confidence in the girls. you get rid of that— confidence in the girls. you get rid of that stigma. we are a team, there is no _ of that stigma. we are a team, there is no laughing or screaming at anyone — is no laughing or screaming at anyone if— is no laughing or screaming at anyone if they make mistakes. it is supportive — anyone if they make mistakes. it is supportive and that is what is helping — supportive and that is what is helping it to grow.— supportive and that is what is helping it to grow. karen walker is here as well. _ helping it to grow. karen walker is here as well, former _ helping it to grow. karen walker is here as well, former england - here as well, former england striker. interesting hearing how things have changed from sean in
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lincolnshire. what do you think? they have. everything he said, i have _ they have. everything he said, i have lived — they have. everything he said, i have lived that _ they have. everything he said, i have lived that journey. - they have. everything he said, i have lived that journey. when . they have. everything he said, i have lived thatjourney. when ii have lived thatjourney. when i started — have lived thatjourney. when i started at — have lived thatjourney. when i started at school, _ have lived thatjourney. when i started at school, they - have lived thatjourney. when i started at school, they would i have lived thatjourney. when i. started at school, they would not let me _ started at school, they would not let me play _ started at school, they would not let me play. we _ started at school, they would not let me play. we were _ started at school, they would not let me play. we were in - started at school, they would not let me play. we were in differenti let me play. we were in different playgrounds _ let me play. we were in different playgrounds i_ let me play. we were in different playgrounds. i couldn't _ let me play. we were in different playgrounds. i couldn't even - let me play. we were in different playgrounds. i couldn't even play let me play. we were in different. playgrounds. i couldn't even play a playtime — playgrounds. i couldn't even play a playtime. they— playgrounds. i couldn't even play a playtime. they wouldn't _ playgrounds. i couldn't even play a playtime. they wouldn't let - playgrounds. i couldn't even play a playtime. they wouldn't let me - playgrounds. i couldn't even play a i playtime. they wouldn't let me play whatsoever — playtime. they wouldn't let me play whatsoever i— playtime. they wouldn't let me play whatsoever. i have _ playtime. they wouldn't let me play whatsoever. i have lived _ playtime. they wouldn't let me play whatsoever. i have lived the - whatsoever. i have lived the journey, _ whatsoever. i have lived the journey, and _ whatsoever. i have lived the journey, and to— whatsoever. i have lived the journey, and to see - whatsoever. i have lived the journey, and to see where i whatsoever. i have lived the - journey, and to see where girls' and women's _ journey, and to see where girls' and women's sport — journey, and to see where girls' and women's sport is— journey, and to see where girls' and women's sport is now, _ journey, and to see where girls' and women's sport is now, i— journey, and to see where girls' and women's sport is now, i never- women's sport is now, i never would have _ women's sport is now, i never would have thought — women's sport is now, i never would have thought it — women's sport is now, i never would have thought it would _ women's sport is now, i never would have thought it would happen. - women's sport is now, i never would have thought it would happen. it's. have thought it would happen. it's fantastic. — have thought it would happen. it's fantastic. but— have thought it would happen. it's fantastic, but it— have thought it would happen. it's fantastic, but it has— have thought it would happen. it's fantastic, but it has been- have thought it would happen. it's fantastic, but it has been a - have thought it would happen. it's fantastic, but it has been a long . fantastic, but it has been a long journey — fantastic, but it has been a long journey we _ fantastic, but it has been a long journey we are _ fantastic, but it has been a long journey. we are at _ fantastic, but it has been a long journey. we are at the - fantastic, but it has been a long journey. we are at the point - fantastic, but it has been a longi journey. we are at the point now where _ journey. we are at the point now where we — journey. we are at the point now where we are _ journey. we are at the point now where we are trying _ journey. we are at the point now where we are trying to _ journey. we are at the point now where we are trying to fight - journey. we are at the point now where we are trying to fight for i where we are trying to fight for other— where we are trying to fight for other things. _ where we are trying to fight for other things, for— where we are trying to fight for other things, for more - where we are trying to fight for other things, for more money. where we are trying to fight fori other things, for more money in where we are trying to fight for - other things, for more money in the sport— other things, for more money in the sport etc, _ other things, for more money in the sport etc, and — other things, for more money in the sport etc, and i_ other things, for more money in the sport etc, and i thought— other things, for more money in the sport etc, and i thought we - other things, for more money in the sport etc, and i thought we would i sport etc, and i thought we would never— sport etc, and i thought we would never have — sport etc, and i thought we would never have that _ sport etc, and i thought we would never have that fight. _ sport etc, and i thought we would never have that fight. the - sport etc, and i thought we would never have that fight. the big - sport etc, and i thought we would i never have that fight. the big thing for me _ never have that fight. the big thing for me is— never have that fight. the big thing for me is that — never have that fight. the big thing for me is that there _ never have that fight. the big thing for me is that there is _ never have that fight. the big thing for me is that there is no— never have that fight. the big thing for me is that there is no longer- for me is that there is no longer the excuse _ for me is that there is no longer the excuse for— for me is that there is no longer the excuse for people _ for me is that there is no longer the excuse for people to - for me is that there is no longer the excuse for people to say - for me is that there is no longer. the excuse for people to say girls can't _ the excuse for people to say girls can't play — the excuse for people to say girls can't play any _ the excuse for people to say girls can't play any sport. _ the excuse for people to say girls can't play any sport. i _ the excuse for people to say girls can't play any sport. i don't - the excuse for people to say girls can't play any sport. i don't think| can't play any sport. i don't think anyone _ can't play any sport. i don't think anyone could _ can't play any sport. i don't think anyone could get _ can't play any sport. i don't think anyone could get away _ can't play any sport. i don't think anyone could get away with - can't play any sport. i don't think anyone could get away with that i can't play any sport. i don't think- anyone could get away with that now.
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the lionesses— anyone could get away with that now. the lionesses are _ anyone could get away with that now. the lionesses are at _ anyone could get away with that now. the lionesses are at the _ anyone could get away with that now. the lionesses are at the forefront - the lionesses are at the forefront in saying — the lionesses are at the forefront in saying that _ the lionesses are at the forefront in saying that. we _ the lionesses are at the forefront in saying that. we can _ the lionesses are at the forefront in saying that. we can get - the lionesses are at the forefront in saying that. we can get to- the lionesses are at the forefront in saying that. we can get to cupl in saying that. we can get to cup finals _ in saying that. we can get to cup finals we — in saying that. we can get to cup finals we are _ in saying that. we can get to cup finals. we are professional- in saying that. we can get to cup finals. we are professional and i in saying that. we can get to cup. finals. we are professional and we can play— finals. we are professional and we can play at— finals. we are professional and we can play at this _ finals. we are professional and we can play at this standard, - finals. we are professional and we can play at this standard, so - finals. we are professional and we can play at this standard, so therej can play at this standard, so there are no— can play at this standard, so there are no more — can play at this standard, so there are no more excuses _ can play at this standard, so there are no more excuses to— can play at this standard, so there are no more excuses to stop - can play at this standard, so there are no more excuses to stop girlsl are no more excuses to stop girls and women — are no more excuses to stop girls and women playing _ are no more excuses to stop girls and women playing sport. - are no more excuses to stop girls and women playing sport. watching it all unfold must _ and women playing sport. watching it all unfold must be _ and women playing sport. watching it all unfold must be emotional - and women playing sport. watching it all unfold must be emotional for - all unfold must be emotional for you, karen. it all unfold must be emotional for you. karen-— all unfold must be emotional for you, karen. it is. i cried when we won the euros, _ you, karen. it is. i cried when we won the euros, and _ you, karen. it is. i cried when we won the euros, and yesterday - you, karen. it is. i cried when we won the euros, and yesterday i i you, karen. it is. i cried when we i won the euros, and yesterday i cried again _ won the euros, and yesterday i cried again you _ won the euros, and yesterday i cried again you do — won the euros, and yesterday i cried again. you do feel— won the euros, and yesterday i cried again. you do feel a _ won the euros, and yesterday i cried again. you do feel a connection. i. again. you do feel a connection. i played _ again. you do feel a connection. i played 80 — again. you do feel a connection. i played 80 times _ again. you do feel a connection. i played 80 times for— again. you do feel a connection. i played 80 times for england, i again. you do feel a connection. i played 80 times for england, youj played 80 times for england, you can't _ played 80 times for england, you can't not — played 80 times for england, you can't not have _ played 80 times for england, you can't not have a _ played 80 times for england, you can't not have a connection. i played 80 times for england, you can't not have a connection. to . played 80 times for england, you i can't not have a connection. to see them _ can't not have a connection. to see them now— can't not have a connection. to see them now and _ can't not have a connection. to see them now and see _ can't not have a connection. to see them now and see how— can't not have a connection. to seel them now and see how professional they are _ them now and see how professional they are and — them now and see how professional they are and what _ them now and see how professional they are and what brilliant - them now and see how professional they are and what brilliant role i they are and what brilliant role models — they are and what brilliant role models they— they are and what brilliant role models they are _ they are and what brilliant role models they are and _ they are and what brilliant role models they are and the - they are and what brilliant role models they are and the play i they are and what brilliant role i models they are and the play under immense _ models they are and the play under immense pressure. _ models they are and the play under immense pressure. if— models they are and the play under immense pressure. if you - models they are and the play under immense pressure. if you have i models they are and the play under immense pressure. if you have not| immense pressure. if you have not played _ immense pressure. if you have not played sport — immense pressure. if you have not played sport to _ immense pressure. if you have not played sport to an— immense pressure. if you have not played sport to an elite _ immense pressure. if you have not played sport to an elite level, i immense pressure. if you have not played sport to an elite level, you i played sport to an elite level, you will never —
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played sport to an elite level, you will never understand. _ played sport to an elite level, you will never understand. i _ played sport to an elite level, you will never understand. i was - played sport to an elite level, you will never understand. i was veryl will never understand. i was very emotional— will never understand. i was very emotional yesterday. _ will never understand. i was very emotional yesterday.— will never understand. i was very emotional yesterday. what was the bi . . est emotional yesterday. what was the biggest crowd _ emotional yesterday. what was the biggest crowd you _ emotional yesterday. what was the biggest crowd you played _ emotional yesterday. what was the biggest crowd you played in - emotional yesterday. what was the biggest crowd you played in front i biggest crowd you played in front of? ~ biggest crowd you played in front of? . , ., , biggest crowd you played in front of? ~ , ._ ,., biggest crowd you played in front of? . , ., , , ., ., biggest crowd you played in front of? . , ., ~ ., of? we played in some of the world cu of? we played in some of the world cop qualifiers _ of? we played in some of the world cup qualifiers and _ of? we played in some of the world cup qualifiers and the _ of? we played in some of the world cup qualifiers and the euros - cup qualifiers and the euros qualifiers _ cup qualifiers and the euros qualifiers. probably- cup qualifiers and the euros qualifiers. probably about i cup qualifiers and the euros - qualifiers. probably about 30,000. so it was— qualifiers. probably about 30,000. so it was getting _ qualifiers. probably about 30,000. so it was getting there. _ qualifiers. probably about 30,000. so it was getting there. a- qualifiers. probably about 30,000. so it was getting there. a lot - qualifiers. probably about 30,000. so it was getting there. a lot of- so it was getting there. a lot of the biggest _ so it was getting there. a lot of the biggest crowds _ so it was getting there. a lot of the biggest crowds we - so it was getting there. a lot of the biggest crowds we played, i so it was getting there. a lot of. the biggest crowds we played, we tended _ the biggest crowds we played, we tended to — the biggest crowds we played, we tended to play— the biggest crowds we played, we tended to play before _ the biggest crowds we played, we tended to play before a _ the biggest crowds we played, we tended to play before a men's- the biggest crowds we played, we i tended to play before a men's game. we played _ tended to play before a men's game. we played at — tended to play before a men's game. we played at wembley— tended to play before a men's game. we played at wembley before - tended to play before a men's game. we played at wembley before the i tended to play before a men's game. we played at wembley before the faj we played at wembley before the fa cup final, _ we played at wembley before the fa cup final, man— we played at wembley before the fa cup final, man united _ we played at wembley before the fa cup final, man united against- cup final, man united against crystal— cup final, man united against crystal palace. _ cup final, man united against crystal palace. i— cup final, man united against crystal palace. i am - cup final, man united against crystal palace. i am showingl cup final, man united against. crystal palace. i am showing my cup final, man united against- crystal palace. i am showing my age there _ crystal palace. i am showing my age there but _ crystal palace. i am showing my age there. but obviously, _ crystal palace. ! am showing my age there. but obviously, they— crystal palace. i am showing my age there. but obviously, they were i crystal palace. i am showing my age there. but obviously, they were not| there. but obviously, they were not there _ there. but obviously, they were not there to _ there. but obviously, they were not there to watch _ there. but obviously, they were not there to watch us. _ there. but obviously, they were not there to watch us. we _ there. but obviously, they were not there to watch us. we got - there. but obviously, they were not there to watch us. we got invited . there. but obviously, they were not| there to watch us. we got invited to thereto watch us. we got invited to wembley— there to watch us. we got invited to wembley when _ there to watch us. we got invited to wembley when they _ there to watch us. we got invited to wembley when they played - there to watch us. we got invited to wembley when they played brazil. there to watch us. we got invited to i wembley when they played brazil this year, wembley when they played brazil this year. and _ wembley when they played brazil this year. and that— wembley when they played brazil this year, and that blew— wembley when they played brazil this year, and that blew me _ wembley when they played brazil this year, and that blew me away, - wembley when they played brazil this year, and that blew me away, to i year, and that blew me away, to think— year, and that blew me away, to
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think i_ year, and that blew me away, to think i played _ year, and that blew me away, to think i played there. _ year, and that blew me away, to think i played there. they- year, and that blew me away, to think i played there. they camel year, and that blew me away, to i think i played there. they came to watch _ think i played there. they came to watch them — think i played there. they came to watch them on _ think i played there. they came to watch them on their— think i played there. they came to watch them on their own, - think i played there. they came to watch them on their own, it - think i played there. they came to watch them on their own, it was i watch them on their own, it was incredible — watch them on their own, it was incredible i_ watch them on their own, it was incredible. i find _ watch them on their own, it was incredible. i find it— watch them on their own, it was incredible. i find it difficult - watch them on their own, it was incredible. i find it difficult to i incredible. i find it difficult to comprehend _ incredible. i find it difficult to comprehend. sometimes i incredible. i find it difficult to i comprehend. sometimes when i incredible. i find it difficult to - comprehend. sometimes when i come away from _ comprehend. sometimes when i come away from watching _ comprehend. sometimes when i come away from watching it, _ comprehend. sometimes when i come away from watching it, i _ comprehend. sometimes when i come away from watching it, ijust _ comprehend. sometimes when i come away from watching it, ijust think, i away from watching it, ijust think, i away from watching it, ijust think, i hope _ away from watching it, ijust think, i hope they— away from watching it, ijust think, i hope they appreciate _ away from watching it, ijust think, i hope they appreciate it _ away from watching it, ijust think, i hope they appreciate it was - away from watching it, ijust think, i hope they appreciate it was that i | i hope they appreciate it was that i hope _ i hope they appreciate it was that i hope you _ i hope they appreciate it was that i hope you appreciate _ i hope they appreciate it was that i hope you appreciate the _ i hope they appreciate it was that i hope you appreciate the journey. i i hope they appreciate it was that i i hope you appreciate the journey. to them, _ hope you appreciate the journey. to them, it— hope you appreciate the journey. to them, it has— hope you appreciate the journey. to them, it has always _ hope you appreciate the journey. to them, it has always been _ hope you appreciate the journey. to them, it has always been like - hope you appreciate the journey. to them, it has always been like this, i them, it has always been like this, whereas— them, it has always been like this, whereas for— them, it has always been like this, whereas for somebody— them, it has always been like this, whereas for somebody like - them, it has always been like this, | whereas for somebody like myself, them, it has always been like this, . whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't _ whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't i_ whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't i am — whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't. i am sure _ whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't. i am sure they— whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't. i am sure they do. _ whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't. i am sure they do. you - whereas for somebody like myself, it hasn't. i am sure they do. you can. hasn't. i am sure they do. you can see that _ hasn't. ! am sure they do. you can see that they— hasn't. i am sure they do. you can see that they do. _ hasn't. i am sure they do. you can see that they do. but _ hasn't. i am sure they do. you can see that they do. but it _ hasn't. i am sure they do. you can see that they do. but it has - hasn't. i am sure they do. you can see that they do. but it has been. see that they do. but it has been one hell— see that they do. but it has been one helljourney. _ see that they do. but it has been one helljourney. we _ see that they do. but it has been one helljourney.— see that they do. but it has been one helljourney. one hell “ourney. we have still got mitchell one hell journey. we have still got mitchell there _ one hell journey. we have still got mitchell there with _ one hell journey. we have still got mitchell there with scarlett - one hell journey. we have still got mitchell there with scarlett and i mitchell there with scarlett and annabelle, the young star players and analysts. are you still listening, scarlet and annabelle? karen, speak to scarlett and annabelle. what advice would you give them going ahead? just
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annabelle. what advice would you give them going ahead?- give them going ahead? just get involved, because _ give them going ahead? just get involved, because when - give them going ahead? just get involved, because when i - give them going ahead? just get involved, because when i was i give them going ahead? just get i involved, because when i was your age. _ involved, because when i was your age, i— involved, because when i was your age. ididn't— involved, because when i was your age, i didn't have _ involved, because when i was your age, ididn't have that— involved, because when i was yourl age, i didn't have that opportunity. it age, i didn't have that opportunity. it wasn't _ age, i didn't have that opportunity. it wasn't there _ age, i didn't have that opportunity. it wasn't there. there _ age, i didn't have that opportunity. it wasn't there. there has - age, i didn't have that opportunity. it wasn't there. there has been i age, i didn't have that opportunity. it wasn't there. there has been a i it wasn't there. there has been a lot of— it wasn't there. there has been a lot of heartache _ it wasn't there. there has been a lot of heartache and _ it wasn't there. there has been a lot of heartache and things - it wasn't there. there has been a lot of heartache and things that i lot of heartache and things that happened — lot of heartache and things that happened over— lot of heartache and things that happened over the _ lot of heartache and things that happened over the years - lot of heartache and things that happened over the years from i lot of heartache and things that i happened over the years from when lot of heartache and things that - happened over the years from when i played _ happened over the years from when i played ten _ happened over the years from when i played ten now _ happened over the years from when i played ten now. the _ happened over the years from when i played ten now. the opportunities i played ten now. the opportunities you have — played ten now. the opportunities you have got, _ played ten now. the opportunities you have got, grab _ played ten now. the opportunities you have got, grab them - played ten now. the opportunities you have got, grab them with- played ten now. the opportunities| you have got, grab them with both hands _ you have got, grab them with both hands yeah, — you have got, grab them with both hands. yeah, there _ you have got, grab them with both hands. yeah, there has _ you have got, grab them with both hands. yeah, there has to- you have got, grab them with both hands. yeah, there has to be - you have got, grab them with both hands. yeah, there has to be an i hands. yeah, there has to be an element — hands. yeah, there has to be an element of— hands. yeah, there has to be an element of talent, _ hands. yeah, there has to be an element of talent, but - hands. yeah, there has to be an element of talent, but the - element of talent, but the opportunities _ element of talent, but the opportunities that- element of talent, but the opportunities that are - element of talent, but the . opportunities that are there, element of talent, but the - opportunities that are there, when i was your— opportunities that are there, when i was your age. — opportunities that are there, when i wasyourage. i_ opportunities that are there, when i was your age, i wouldn't _ opportunities that are there, when i was your age, i wouldn't have - was your age, i wouldn't have believed — was your age, i wouldn't have believed it _ was your age, i wouldn't have believed it would _ was your age, i wouldn't have believed it would happen. - was your age, i wouldn't have believed it would happen. sol was your age, i wouldn't have i believed it would happen. so if was your age, i wouldn't have - believed it would happen. so if you have the _ believed it would happen. so if you have the opportunity, _ believed it would happen. so if you have the opportunity, enjoy- believed it would happen. so if you have the opportunity, enjoy every. have the opportunity, enjoy every minute _ have the opportunity, enjoy every minute it— have the opportunity, enjoy every minute it is— have the opportunity, enjoy every minute. it is over— have the opportunity, enjoy every minute. it is over in _ have the opportunity, enjoy every minute. it is over in a _ have the opportunity, enjoy every minute. it is over in a flash- have the opportunity, enjoy every minute. it is over in a flash and l minute. it is over in a flash and then— minute. it is over in a flash and thenyou— minute. it is over in a flash and then you are _ minute. it is over in a flash and then you are looking _ minute. it is over in a flash and then you are looking back- minute. it is over in a flash and then you are looking back and i minute. it is over in a flash and - then you are looking back and seeing somebody— then you are looking back and seeing somebody else — then you are looking back and seeing somebody else do _ then you are looking back and seeing somebody else do what _ then you are looking back and seeing somebody else do what you - then you are looking back and seeing somebody else do what you wanted i then you are looking back and seeing. somebody else do what you wanted to do. somebody else do what you wanted to do but— somebody else do what you wanted to do but for— somebody else do what you wanted to do. but for these _ somebody else do what you wanted to do. but for these girls, _ somebody else do what you wanted to do. but for these girls, the _ do. but for these girls, the opportunity— do. but for these girls, the opportunity is _ do. but for these girls, the opportunity is there. - do. but for these girls, the opportunity is there. i - do. but for these girls, the| opportunity is there. i didn't do. but for these girls, the - opportunity is there. i didn't play my first — opportunity is there. i didn't play my first ever _ opportunity is there. i didn't play my first ever game _ opportunity is there. ididn't play my first ever game until- opportunity is there. i didn't play my first ever game until i - opportunity is there. i didn't play my first ever game until i was i opportunity is there. i didn't play my first ever game until i was 16|
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my first ever game until i was 16 years— my first ever game until i was 16 years old — my first ever game until i was 16 years old and _ my first ever game until i was 16 years old. and by— my first ever game until i was 16 years old. and by the _ my first ever game until i was 16 years old. and by the time - my first ever game until i was 16 years old. and by the time i- my first ever game until i was 16 years old. and by the time i wasj my first ever game until i was 16. years old. and by the time i was 17, i years old. and by the time i was 17, i was _ years old. and by the time i was 17, i was playing — years old. and by the time i was 17, i was playing for— years old. and by the time i was 17, i was playing for england. _ years old. and by the time i was 17, i was playing for england. grab- years old. and by the time i was 17, i was playing for england. grab it i i was playing for england. grab it with both — i was playing for england. grab it with both hands _ i was playing for england. grab it with both hands and _ i was playing for england. grab it with both hands and enjoy- i was playing for england. grab it with both hands and enjoy everyi with both hands and enjoy every minute, — with both hands and enjoy every minute, it's— with both hands and enjoy every minute, it'sa_ with both hands and enjoy every minute, it's a wonderful- with both hands and enjoy everyi minute, it's a wonderfuljourney. britain, — minute, it's a wonderfuljourney. britain, speak— minute, it's a wonderfuljourney. britain, speak to _ minute, it's a wonderfuljourney. britain, speak to a _ minute, it's a wonderfuljourney. britain, speak to a legend. - minute, it's a wonderfuljourney. britain, speak to a legend. —— i britain, speak to a legend. —— annabelle. britain, speak to a legend. -- annabelle-— britain, speak to a legend. -- annabelle. ~ , ., , ., annabelle. when you said you were ounuer, annabelle. when you said you were younger. you _ annabelle. when you said you were younger. you said _ annabelle. when you said you were younger, you said there _ annabelle. when you said you were younger, you said there were - annabelle. when you said you were younger, you said there were not . annabelle. when you said you were| younger, you said there were not as many— younger, you said there were not as many opportunities for you as there are for— many opportunities for you as there are for us— many opportunities for you as there are for us and you still got to be where _ are for us and you still got to be where you — are for us and you still got to be where you have been to play for the lionesses _ where you have been to play for the lionesses was that i think that is amazing — lionesses was that i think that is amazing. we should be so grateful now because of how far women's sports _ now because of how far women's sports and — now because of how far women's sports and football have come that we now _ sports and football have come that we now have the opportunities to pursue _ we now have the opportunities to pursue our— we now have the opportunities to pursue our dreams and maybe one day play for _ pursue our dreams and maybe one day play for the _ pursue our dreams and maybe one day play for the lionesses.— play for the lionesses. wow. that has liven play for the lionesses. wow. that has given me _ play for the lionesses. wow. that has given me a — play for the lionesses. wow. that has given me a boost _ play for the lionesses. wow. that has given me a boost to _ play for the lionesses. wow. that has given me a boost to hear- play for the lionesses. wow. that has given me a boost to hear a i play for the lionesses. wow. that - has given me a boost to hear a young lii'l has given me a boost to hear a young girl speak— has given me a boost to hear a young girl speak so— has given me a boost to hear a young girl speak so well— has given me a boost to hear a young girl speak so well and _ has given me a boost to hear a young girl speak so well and be _ has given me a boost to hear a young girl speak so well and be thankful- girl speak so well and be thankful for our— girl speak so well and be thankful for ouriourney _ girl speak so well and be thankful for ourjourney. it— girl speak so well and be thankful
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for ourjourney. it often _ girl speak so well and be thankful for ourjourney. it often gets - girl speak so well and be thankful for ourjourney. it often gets me, j for ourjourney. it often gets me, and that— for ourjourney. it often gets me, and that is— for ourjourney. it often gets me, and that is fantastic. _ for ourjourney. it often gets me, and that is fantastic. i— for ourjourney. it often gets me, and that is fantastic. i don't - for ourjourney. it often gets me, and that is fantastic. i don't thinkj and that is fantastic. i don't think i and that is fantastic. i don't think i was _ and that is fantastic. i don't think i was the — and that is fantastic. i don't think i was the greatest _ and that is fantastic. i don't think i was the greatest footballer, - and that is fantastic. i don't think i was the greatest footballer, but and that is fantastic. i don't think. i was the greatest footballer, but i .ave i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my— i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my heart _ i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my heart and _ i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my heart and i _ i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my heart and i wanted - i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my heart and i wanted it. - i was the greatest footballer, but i gave my heart and i wanted it. i. gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't— gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't have _ gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't have a _ gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't have a lot— gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't have a lot of— gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't have a lot of money, - gave my heart and i wanted it. i didn't have a lot of money, i- gave my heart and i wanted it. i. didn't have a lot of money, i didn't have _ didn't have a lot of money, i didn't have any— didn't have a lot of money, i didn't have any football— didn't have a lot of money, i didn't have any football boots _ didn't have a lot of money, i didn't have any football boots when - didn't have a lot of money, i didn't have any football boots when i- didn't have a lot of money, i didn't| have any football boots when i first turned _ have any football boots when i first turned up _ have any football boots when i first turned up to — have any football boots when i first turned up to doncaster. _ have any football boots when i first turned up to doncaster. you - have any football boots when i first turned up to doncaster. you can i turned up to doncaster. you can achieve _ turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. — turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. if— turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. if you _ turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. if you have _ turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. if you have got - turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. if you have got it- turned up to doncaster. you can achieve it. if you have got it in. achieve it. if you have got it in your— achieve it. if you have got it in your heart. _ achieve it. if you have got it in your heart. go— achieve it. if you have got it in your heart, go for— achieve it. if you have got it in your heart, go for it. - achieve it. if you have got it in. your heart, go for it. absolutely amazing, — your heart, go for it. absolutely amazing, and— your heart, go for it. absolutely amazing, and the _ your heart, go for it. absolutely amazing, and the gentleman i your heart, go for it. absolutely - amazing, and the gentleman should be very proud _ amazing, and the gentleman should be very proud of— amazing, and the gentleman should be very proud of the — amazing, and the gentleman should be very proud of the girls. _ scarlett, what do you think? there have been a _ scarlett, what do you think? there have been a lot _ scarlett, what do you think? there have been a lot more _ scarlett, what do you think? ill” have been a lot more opportunities as girls for has increased more, as the lionesses won last year. it as girls for has increased more, as the lionesses won last year. it has its own momentum, _ the lionesses won last year. it has its own momentum, doesn't - the lionesses won last year. it has its own momentum, doesn't it, . its own momentum, doesn't it, mitchell? , ., , ,, , its own momentum, doesn't it, mitchell? , ,, , ., mitchell? yes, it does. i keep going on about it — mitchell? yes, it does. i keep going on about it because _ mitchell? yes, it does. i keep going on about it because when _
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mitchell? yes, it does. i keep going on about it because when i - mitchell? yes, it does. i keep going on about it because when i was - mitchell? yes, it does. i keep going i on about it because when i was young representation mattered, and it does now, representation mattered, and it does now. as _ representation mattered, and it does now, as well. it is inspiring to hear— now, as well. it is inspiring to hear how— now, as well. it is inspiring to hear how far the journey has come and it— hear how far the journey has come and it is— hear how far the journey has come and it is important we don't forget the previous generation of lionesses. it will enable the young -irls lionesses. it will enable the young girls i_ lionesses. it will enable the young girls i am — lionesses. it will enable the young girls i am sitting next to you to be inspired — girls i am sitting next to you to be inspired it— girls i am sitting next to you to be inspired. it is amazing to be able to hear— inspired. it is amazing to be able to hear directly you speak about your _ to hear directly you speak about your story _ to hear directly you speak about your story. yeah, for us as a grassroots _ your story. yeah, for us as a grassroots club, we have been putting — grassroots club, we have been putting in— grassroots club, we have been putting in a lot of effort to make sure _ putting in a lot of effort to make sure that — putting in a lot of effort to make sure that the girls get represented 'ust sure that the girls get represented just as _ sure that the girls get represented just as much as the boys and we make sure that _ just as much as the boys and we make sure that we _ just as much as the boys and we make sure that we have the talent of coaches — sure that we have the talent of coaches and female coaches as well for them _ coaches and female coaches as well for them to— coaches and female coaches as well for them to be able to be connected and understand the challenges and also the _ and understand the challenges and also the tribulations which young -irls also the tribulations which young girls go— also the tribulations which young girls go through. also the tribulations which young girls go through-— also the tribulations which young girls go through. karen? yeah, the fact that we _ girls go through. karen? yeah, the fact that we are _ girls go through. karen? yeah, the fact that we are speaking _ girls go through. karen? yeah, the fact that we are speaking like - girls go through. karen? yeah, the fact that we are speaking like this | fact that we are speaking like this speaks _ fact that we are speaking like this
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speaks volumes. _ fact that we are speaking like this speaks volumes. the _ fact that we are speaking like this . speaks volumes. the opportunities. we just— speaks volumes. the opportunities. we just need — speaks volumes. the opportunities. we just need to _ speaks volumes. the opportunities. we just need to get _ speaks volumes. the opportunities. we just need to get more _ speaks volumes. the opportunities. we just need to get more people, l we just need to get more people, because _ we just need to get more people, because it — we just need to get more people, because it is — we just need to get more people, because it is not _ we just need to get more people, because it is notjust_ we just need to get more people, because it is notjust getting - we just need to get more people, because it is notjust getting the i because it is notjust getting the -irls because it is notjust getting the girls to — because it is notjust getting the girls to play. _ because it is notjust getting the girls to play. it— because it is notjust getting the girls to play. it is— because it is notjust getting the girls to play, it is about - girls to play, it is about representing _ girls to play, it is about representing all- girls to play, it is about i representing all different girls to play, it is about - representing all different parts of society, _ representing all different parts of society, making _ representing all different parts of society, making sure _ representing all different parts of society, making sure that - representing all different parts of . society, making sure that happens, and also _ society, making sure that happens, and also that — society, making sure that happens, and also that people _ society, making sure that happens, and also that people get _ society, making sure that happens, and also that people get involved . society, making sure that happens, j and also that people get involved in coaching _ and also that people get involved in coaching it— and also that people get involved in coaching if you _ and also that people get involved in coaching. if you have _ and also that people get involved in coaching. if you have a _ and also that people get involved in coaching. if you have a coach - and also that people get involved in coaching. if you have a coach with l coaching. if you have a coach with 50 kids. _ coaching. if you have a coach with 50 kids. they— coaching. if you have a coach with 50 kids, they need _ coaching. if you have a coach with 50 kids, they need help. - coaching. if you have a coach with 50 kids, they need help. we - coaching. if you have a coach with 50 kids, they need help. we need coaching. if you have a coach with i 50 kids, they need help. we need to make _ 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure _ 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure that— 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure that it _ 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure that it goes _ 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure that it goes to _ 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure that it goes to not - 50 kids, they need help. we need to make sure that it goes to notjust i make sure that it goes to notjust all corners — make sure that it goes to notjust all corners of _ make sure that it goes to notjust all corners of this _ make sure that it goes to notjust all corners of this country, - make sure that it goes to notjust all corners of this country, but. make sure that it goes to notjust all corners of this country, but allj all corners of this country, but all corners _ all corners of this country, but all corners of— all corners of this country, but all corners of the _ all corners of this country, but all corners of the world. _ all corners of this country, but all corners of the world. touch - all corners of this country, but alli corners of the world. touch wood, all corners of this country, but all. corners of the world. touch wood, at the world _ corners of the world. touch wood, at the world cup— corners of the world. touch wood, at the world cup is— corners of the world. touch wood, at the world cup is done _ corners of the world. touch wood, at the world cup is done that _ corners of the world. touch wood, at the world cup is done that and - corners of the world. touch wood, at the world cup is done that and we i the world cup is done that and we can see _ the world cup is done that and we can see it— the world cup is done that and we can see it is— the world cup is done that and we can see it is progressing, - the world cup is done that and we can see it is progressing, but - the world cup is done that and we can see it is progressing, but i - the world cup is done that and we can see it is progressing, but i am a proud _ can see it is progressing, but i am a proud fan — can see it is progressing, but i am a proud fan now. _ can see it is progressing, but i am a proud fan now. i— can see it is progressing, but i am a proud fan now, i have _ can see it is progressing, but i am a proud fan now, i have my- can see it is progressing, but i am i a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that _ a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i — a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i used _ a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i used to— a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i used to wear— a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i used to wear when - a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i used to wear when i- a proud fan now, i have my england shirt that i used to wear when i was| shirt that i used to wear when i was playing _ shirt that i used to wear when i was playing i_ shirt that i used to wear when i was playing i was — shirt that i used to wear when i was playing i was sat _ shirt that i used to wear when i was playing. i was sat in— shirt that i used to wear when i was playing. i was sat in it _ shirt that i used to wear when i was playing. i was sat in it yesterday. i playing. i was sat in it yesterday. he sat _ playing. i was sat in it yesterday. he sat wearing _ playing. i was sat in it yesterday. he sat wearing your _ playing. i was sat in it yesterday. he sat wearing your old - playing. i was sat in it yesterday. he sat wearing your old englandi he sat wearing your old england shirt? i he sat wearing your old england shirt? ., ., ~' he sat wearing your old england shirt? ., ., ,, ., shirt? i did, i did. itook the dog out wearing _ shirt? i did, i did. itook the dog out wearing it, _ shirt? i did, i did. itook the dog out wearing it, everybody - shirt? i did, i did. itook the dog out wearing it, everybody was i out wearing it, everybody was looking — out wearing it, everybody was looking i_ out wearing it, everybody was looking i had _ out wearing it, everybody was looking. i had my— out wearing it, everybody was
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looking. i had my old - out wearing it, everybody was looking. i had my old number| out wearing it, everybody was i looking. i had my old number on out wearing it, everybody was - looking. i had my old number on the back _ looking. i had my old number on the back i_ looking. i had my old number on the back i had _ looking. i had my old number on the back i had a — looking. i had my old number on the back. i had a few— looking. i had my old number on the back. i had a few tears _ looking. i had my old number on the back. i had a few tears at _ looking. i had my old number on the back. i had a few tears at the - looking. i had my old number on the back. i had a few tears at the end i back. i had a few tears at the end of the _ back. i had a few tears at the end of the game _ back. i had a few tears at the end ofthe game it— back. i had a few tears at the end of the game. it is— back. i had a few tears at the end of the game. it is amazing - back. i had a few tears at the end of the game. it is amazing to- back. i had a few tears at the end i of the game. it is amazing to watch all these _ of the game. it is amazing to watch all these girls— of the game. it is amazing to watch all these girls growing _ of the game. it is amazing to watch all these girls growing up— of the game. it is amazing to watch all these girls growing up and - of the game. it is amazing to watch| all these girls growing up and doing what we _ all these girls growing up and doing what we dream _ all these girls growing up and doing what we dream door. _ all these girls growing up and doing what we dream door.— what we dream door. brilliant, brilliant all _ what we dream door. brilliant, brilliant all of _ what we dream door. brilliant, brilliant all of you! _ what we dream door. brilliant, brilliant all of you! thank - what we dream door. brilliant, brilliant all of you! thank you i what we dream door. brilliant, i brilliant all of you! thank you all so much. we want to hear more of this, and we will. there is a good article by sue and stiffs in one of the papers, i think it is the guardian, she was on the show on friday, saying it is notjust women's football that is enjoying women's football that is enjoying women's growth, rugby, football, netball has seen record—breaking crowds this year. our national women's sides have had massive success this year. is it time to drop the woman's descriptive and
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just call it the world cup? it is a good article. women's sport, what is the state of play? tell us, get in touch. we are here until 10am. good morning, here is the news. serial killer lucy letby will be sentenced today after being found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six others at the countess of chester hospital while she was a nurse. she has indicated she was a nurse. she has indicated she won't attend the hearing, which has led to fresh calls for powers to make sure that offenders are present for sentencing. california has been hit by torrential rain, as it experiences its first tropical storm and more than 80 years. a state of emergency has been declared as tom hillary brings flash flooding to los
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angeles. saudi arabian border guards have been accused of killing hundreds of migrants, many of them are ethiopians, trying to cross from war—torn yemen. the un made similar claims last year, which saudi arabia has previously disputed. council leaders across the uk are predicting a shortfall in budgets of around £5 billion by april 2026. the information has been provided to the bbc by 190 local authorities. the government says funding beyond the next financial year has not yet been decided. those with the news headlines. now the sport. spain's world cup winner— now the sport. spain's world cup winner alexia petraeus says fifa should _ winner alexia petraeus says fifa should take note that dispute surrounding women's football. spain won the _ surrounding women's football. spain won the world cup despite controversy over their coach, while several _ controversy over their coach, while several other women's national teams have been— several other women's national teams have been dealing with financial issues — have been dealing with financial issues. she says it is sapping the energy— issues. she says it is sapping the energy of— issues. she says it is sapping the energy of players.
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david _ energy of players. david moyes said there was never any doubt _ david moyes said there was never any doubt about playing lucas paqueta in their 3-1 _ doubt about playing lucas paqueta in their 3—1 win doubt about playing lucas paqueta in their3—1win over doubt about playing lucas paqueta in their 3—1 win over chelsea. he is being _ their 3—1 win over chelsea. he is being investigated by the fa for potential breaches of betting rules. everton _ potential breaches of betting rules. everton remain on zero points after being _ everton remain on zero points after being beaten 4—0 at aston villa. katarina — being beaten 4—0 at aston villa. katarina johnson—thompson says she felt she _ katarina johnson—thompson says she felt she had unfinished business as she won _ felt she had unfinished business as she won heptathlon gold at the world athletics _ she won heptathlon gold at the world athletics championships in budapest. she has— athletics championships in budapest. she has returned from serious injury and produced a personal best in the 800 metres. victor hoffman carted a course record — victor hoffman carted a course record 61— victor hoffman carted a course record 61 at olympia field in illinois— record 61 at olympia field in illinois to win the bmw championship. he finished two shots clear of— championship. he finished two shots clear of matt fitzpatrick.
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after 10am we will discuss the conviction of lucy letby, the most prolific child serial killer in modern times. the 33—year—old is due to be sentenced this morning after being found guilty of murdering seven babies and the attempted murder of six others. anna a n na foster anna foster is at manchester crown court where the sentencing hearing is expected to begin in just under half—an—hour. anna, it is alljust
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unspeakable, but remind us what she was convicted of. it unspeakable, but remind us what she was convicted of.— was convicted of. it was, as you sa , was convicted of. it was, as you say. she — was convicted of. it was, as you say. she was — was convicted of. it was, as you say, she was convicted - was convicted of. it was, as you say, she was convicted of- was convicted of. it was, as you - say, she was convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six more. she faced 22 points in total of murder and attempted murder. she was acquitted of two of those counts of attempted murder. there were six more that the jury failed to reach a verdict on so the cps asked for a further 28 days to ask if she would face a retrial. in the case of those families, it was described as being bittersweet because they saw her convicted of murder and attempted murder, but in the case of their own children they didn't get an answer on some of those counts. what will happen today as the judge in those counts. what will happen today as thejudge in court those counts. what will happen today as the judge in court will set from 10am, which you can follow either on 5 live or bbc news, and she will finally find what the sentences. no
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doubt a long custodial because murder carries a mandatory life sentence, but we will hear what the judge has decided to hand down for those incredibly serious convictions.— those incredibly serious convictions. , . convictions. there is this concern from many _ convictions. there is this concern from many that _ convictions. there is this concern from many that think _ convictions. there is this concern from many that think she - convictions. there is this concern from many that think she should | convictions. there is this concern i from many that think she should be in court to hear the sentence being handed down. she will not be there. there is a big row about that, isn't there? , ,, , . . ., there? there is. she is at the court buildinu. there? there is. she is at the court building- she _ there? there is. she is at the court building. she has— there? there is. she is at the court building. she has been _ there? there is. she is at the court building. she has been brought - there? there is. she is at the court| building. she has been brought into manchester crown court. she is able to choose whether or not she is brought from the holding cells into court. those verdicts came over a period of several days, so for the first few verdict she was in court and knew she had been convicted of murder, she sobbed in court, putter head on the desk and cried. for the second to hearing she decided not to appear. her legalteam
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second to hearing she decided not to appear. her legal team has decided that will be the case again today, so she will not hear the statement thejudge makes. do sentencing remarks sum up the case, explain a lot of the detail of the thinking of thejudge, but also, and the lot of the detail of the thinking of the judge, but also, and the thing that really causes concern for people, is that she will not be present to hear the victim impact statements, which were a big part of any sentencing hearing. this is where the parents of the babies who died or she attempted to kill, would hear of the consequences. she will not be there to hear them the ordeal that they been through. this is something that has become a problem in recent weeks and months. she is not the first high—profile convict, murderer, to refuse to appear. {line murderer, to refuse to appear. one ofthe murderer, to refuse to appear. one of the key figures _ murderer, to refuse to appear. one of the key figures in the case, alison kelly, former director of nursing at the countess of chester
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hospital, has been suspended. nhs england confirmed that not so long ago. today, it is a long process today, isn't it? there is a lot happening. it today, isn't it? there is a lot happening-— today, isn't it? there is a lot haueninu. , , . . happening. it is. it will start at 10am. because _ happening. it is. it will start at 10am. because there - happening. it is. it will start at 10am. because there are - happening. it is. it will start at 10am. because there are so i happening. it is. it will start at. 10am. because there are so many victim impact statements, they are expected to take at least a morning session here in court. expected to be the afternoon by the time the judge begins to deliver his sentencing remarks. you will remember the court rooms and cameras used to be entirely incompatible, but now there are some selected parts of court cases and sent on things that are being televised. that will be the case today when he hands down that sentence, there will be a camera in caught filming that to be broadcast. we expected to take the whole of the day, frankly. it'll
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be into the afternoon before we find out exactly what sentence will be handed to lucy letby. thank you. more on this on the bbc news website and app throughout the day, and on 5 live. let me know how this horrific story has affected you. serious questions to answer, clearly. doctors told the court that the risk repeated concerns about letby, but the contest of cheshire association trust was slow to react. good organisational things cost the lives of these babies? 08085 909693 is the number. we will discuss this on 5 live from ten o'clock and beyond.
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women's sport, what is the state of play? it is all good but needs to get better in terms of finance, in terms of support, in terms of profile. rob in manchester. good morning. profile. rob in manchester. good morninu. profile. rob in manchester. good mornin., ., profile. rob in manchester. good morninu. ., . morning. good morning. we were sat watchin: morning. good morning. we were sat watching the — morning. good morning. we were sat watching the lionesses _ morning. good morning. we were sat watching the lionesses like _ morning. good morning. we were sat watching the lionesses like many - watching the lionesses like many other millions across the country. my other millions across the country. my little girl will be four in october. she was watching with us and as the ladies were coming out onto the field she turned to me seriously and said, daddy, i am going to wear one of those tops one day. regardless of the result, that is the legacy, that the next generation are inspired. what a
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moment. that _ generation are inspired. what a moment. that is _ generation are inspired. what a moment. that is fantastic. - moment. that is fantastic. brilliant, _ moment. that is fantastic. brilliant, yeah. _ moment. that is fantastic. brilliant, yeah. you - moment. that is fantastic. brilliant, yeah. you must i moment. that is fantastic. - brilliant, yeah. you must have thou~ht, brilliant, yeah. you must have thought, where _ brilliant, yeah. you must have thought, where did _ brilliant, yeah. you must have thought, where did that - brilliant, yeah. you must have thought, where did that come| brilliant, yeah. you must have - thought, where did that come from? very much so. she runs around the garden with me kicking a ball and shouting go every time the ball hit something. it was very much out of the blue where this future aspiration came from, but i was very much up for it and was very happy to be wearing one of the lionesses tops. 50 be wearing one of the lionesses to s, ., , be wearing one of the lionesses tos, ., , , be wearing one of the lionesses tos. . , , ., tops. so what is she getting for christmas? _ tops. so what is she getting for christmas? now— tops. so what is she getting for christmas? now you _ tops. so what is she getting for christmas? now you lionesses| tops. so what is she getting for - christmas? now you lionesses top! would ou christmas? now you lionesses top! would you wear— christmas? now you lionesses top! would you wear one? _ christmas? now you lionesses top! would you wear one? i _ christmas? now you lionesses top! would you wear one? i think- christmas? now you lionesses top! would you wear one? i think you i would you wear one? i think you should. it should just be football tops. should. it should 'ust be football to s, r , , should. it should 'ust be football tos. , , . . should. it should 'ust be football tos. , , ., ., ., tops. absolutely, yeah. i am a pe teacher, have _ tops. absolutely, yeah. i am a pe teacher, have been _ tops. absolutely, yeah. i am a pe teacher, have been for _ tops. absolutely, yeah. i am a pe teacher, have been for 20 - tops. absolutely, yeah. i am a pe teacher, have been for 20 years. |
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tops. absolutely, yeah. i am a pe i teacher, have been for 20 years. we are seeing the impact of this. we have an incredibly successful girls football team in our school. it is just great. but there does need to be more impact, there needs to be more done to get the more involved. for a little baby like i have she has been incredibly inspired by it and she is like playing football as much as she can, it's fantastic. thank you so much. we have all been inspired. you are a pe coach yourself. a pe teacher. generally speaking, women sport, what needs to happen to take it to the next level? for us there are a few things. funding has got to be there. there is a massive lack of funding and you look at things like nikkei won't
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release the goalkeeperjersey is, notjust england but for nearly every country, it is just a strange thing. there needs to be funding from the fa, and into all sports. there needs to be more competitive levels in schools, club levels. it is there, it is building, but there is there, it is building, but there is always more that can be done. you have to go. — is always more that can be done. you have to go. have _ is always more that can be done. you have to go, have held you back! that was great. thank you. it won't be long before we see rows in the church. natasha, sportsjourno ship, presenter of the celtic state of mind podcast. how are you? how are you after losing to kilmarnock? yeah, a disappointing one at the weekend for sure, but a bit of a
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wake—up call for the club for the rest of the season. brendan rodgers happy? this wasn't the way to go about winning the fans back, i have to say. he has a bit of work to do there. ~ ., , to say. he has a bit of work to do there. ~ . , , ., to say. he has a bit of work to do there. ~ . , , . ., , there. what is the state of play with woman's _ there. what is the state of play with woman's football. - there. what is the state of play with woman's football. how - there. what is the state of play with woman's football. how is. there. what is the state of play | with woman's football. how is it going in scotland? like everywhere, like in england. _ going in scotland? like everywhere, like in england, more _ going in scotland? like everywhere, like in england, more work- going in scotland? like everywhere, like in england, more work needs i going in scotland? like everywhere, like in england, more work needs toj like in england, more work needs to be done. what the lionesses have achieved has been fantastic for women's sport north and south of the border. the visibility that they and the world cup in general has provided women's football has been invaluable. it is massively importantly capitalised —— capitalise on that in england and in scotland, as well. is
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capitalise on that in england and in scotland, as well.— scotland, as well. is the heart of it financing? _ scotland, as well. is the heart of it financing? absolutely. - scotland, as well. is the heart of it financing? absolutely. there i scotland, as well. is the heart of. it financing? absolutely. there are a few key things. _ it financing? absolutely. there are a few key things, opportunity, - a few key things, opportunity, exposure and investment. we have had the exposure to the world cup. now young girls throughout the country won't want to be the next chloe kelly or mary earps and we need to give them the opportunity to do that, and to do that we need to be investing at grass roots football to make sure that the opportunity is there. we are well aware of how important it is for girls to be able to see these role models if they are truly to believe it is something they can do in their future. the world cup has been vitally important for that. and can's success has contributed. the more successful they lionesses are, the more media presence to get. that is so important. d0 presence to get. that is so important-— presence to get. that is so im ortant. i. , presence to get. that is so imortant. i. , .
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important. do you remember a few ears auo important. do you remember a few years ago two _ important. do you remember a few years ago two sky _ important. do you remember a few years ago two sky sports _ important. do you remember a few years ago two sky sports pundits, l years ago two sky sports pundits, who are no longer sky sports pundits, mocked women's football when they showed a clip of it and laughed at it. do you remember that? yes, i do. laughed at it. do you remember that? yes, ido. it laughed at it. do you remember that? yes, i do. it is frustrating to see. those attitudes unfortunately still exist. women have to convince meant that there should be equal opportunity, so the fact that these attitudes are still running at a high level at fifa is very frustrating. the more we see the success on the pitch the more that will grow. it was a fantastic game between two top teams yesterday and everyone who joined in with have seen that and see how far woman's football has come, and is looking forward to seeing where it can go
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next. megan plays for norwich city woman. i, megan. —— hi, megan. the quality, this skill, the first touch, just fantastic. it has come an awful long way, hasn't it? filth. an awful long way, hasn't it? oh, definitely- _ an awful long way, hasn't it? oh, definitely. not _ an awful long way, hasn't it? oh, definitely. notjust _ an awful long way, hasn't it? oh, definitely. notjust the an awful long way, hasn't it? oh, definitely. not just the final. an awful long way, hasn't it? oh, definitely. notjust the final. we had lauren hemp player, who came through— had lauren hemp player, who came through our— had lauren hemp player, who came through our pathway, so to see how far she _ through our pathway, so to see how far she has — through our pathway, so to see how far she has come, to play in the final, _ far she has come, to play in the final, great— far she has come, to play in the final, great for us as a community and the _ final, great for us as a community and the foundation. tell final, great for us as a community and the foundation.— and the foundation. tell us about the pathway _ and the foundation. tell us about the pathway at — and the foundation. tell us about the pathway at clubs. _ and the foundation. tell us about the pathway at clubs. how - and the foundation. tell us about the pathway at clubs. how does i and the foundation. tell us about i the pathway at clubs. how does that work? i oversee _ the pathway at clubs. how does that work? i oversee the _ the pathway at clubs. how does that work? i oversee the girls _ the pathway at clubs. how does that| work? i oversee the girls programme at the _ work? i oversee the girls programme at the community sports foundation. we have _ at the community sports foundation. we have girls who want to play football — we have girls who want to play football from the little ones, or -irls
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football from the little ones, or girls who — football from the little ones, or girls who want to try it out for the first time, — girls who want to try it out for the first time, or girls who want to push _ first time, or girls who want to push on — first time, or girls who want to push on and take their football to the next — push on and take their football to the next level, to go through the development programmes. we have had a few players come through and being inspired _ a few players come through and being inspired. lauren hemp has inspired a lot of— inspired. lauren hemp has inspired a lot of the _ inspired. lauren hemp has inspired a lot of the girls because she has gone _ lot of the girls because she has gone through that pathway. we are lucky— gone through that pathway. we are lucky to— gone through that pathway. we are lucky to have a role model like her for the _ lucky to have a role model like her for the girls— lucky to have a role model like her for the girls to aspire to be. if for the girls to aspire to be. if you for the girls to aspire to be. you see for the girls to aspire to be. if you see someone coming for the first time and you think, hang on, look at this, this is special, what happens then? i this, this is special, what happens then? ., this, this is special, what happens then? . ., , , ., ~ then? i have done this before. we have had a — then? i have done this before. we have had a girls _ then? i have done this before. we have had a girls programme i then? i have done this before. we have had a girls programme herel then? i have done this before. we i have had a girls programme here for about— have had a girls programme here for about 25_ have had a girls programme here for about 25 years. we are quite good at looking _ about 25 years. we are quite good at looking after the talent and challenging them, whether it be the boys, _ challenging them, whether it be the boys, or— challenging them, whether it be the boys, or individual improvements. we are really— boys, or individual improvements. we are really lucky to have fantastic staff with — are really lucky to have fantastic staff with experience who have coached — staff with experience who have coached top players here. not only
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the top _ coached top players here. not only the top players, but we really want to inspire _ the top players, but we really want to inspire girls to say, i want to id to inspire girls to say, i want to go and — to inspire girls to say, i want to go and kick— to inspire girls to say, i want to go and kick a ball around. thank you so much, go and kick a ball around. thank you so much. megan- — go and kick a ball around. thank you so much, megan. lauren _ go and kick a ball around. thank you so much, megan. lauren delaney, l go and kick a ball around. thank you i so much, megan. lauren delaney, sale sharks co—captain. so much, megan. lauren delaney, sale sharks co-captain._ sharks co-captain. good morning, treat to sharks co-captain. good morning, great to have _ sharks co-captain. good morning, great to have you _ sharks co-captain. good morning, great to have you here. _ sharks co-captain. good morning, great to have you here. what i sharks co-captain. good morning, great to have you here. what is i sharks co-captain. good morning, | great to have you here. what is the state of play? _ great to have you here. what is the state of play? yeah, _ great to have you here. what is the state of play? yeah, good - great to have you here. what is the | state of play? yeah, good morning. great to have you here. what is the i state of play? yeah, good morning. i think we have — state of play? yeah, good morning. i think we have come _ state of play? yeah, good morning. i think we have come on _ state of play? yeah, good morning. i think we have come on huge - state of play? yeah, good morning. i think we have come on huge stridesl think we have come on huge strides in the last ten or 15 years. i was paying to be part of an international set up at basketball 20 years ago and now being semiprofessional here up in manchester at sale sharks, we have made huge strides in women's sport, and to see all the world records being broken in terms of attendance and watching on the tv is phenomenal. i think the lionesses have been paving the way and had
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been hugely inspirational in women's sport over here. 20 been hugely inspirational in women's sport over here-— sport over here. 20 years ago, you were paying — sport over here. 20 years ago, you were paying them _ sport over here. 20 years ago, you were paying them to _ sport over here. 20 years ago, you were paying them to do _ sport over here. 20 years ago, you were paying them to do it. - sport over here. 20 years ago, you were paying them to do it. yeah, l were paying them to do it. yeah, absolutely- _ were paying them to do it. yeah, absolutely. we _ were paying them to do it. yeah, absolutely. we had _ were paying them to do it. yeah, absolutely. we had to _ were paying them to do it. yeah, absolutely. we had to pay - were paying them to do it. yeah, absolutely. we had to pay for - were paying them to do it. yeah, | absolutely. we had to pay for our own kit, to travel to europeanchampionships in estonia at under 16 and basically if you couldn't pay to be involved, you couldn't pay to be involved, you couldn't be involved. now, obviously, we are semiprofessional up obviously, we are semiprofessional up here. it is almost bizarre to see how it has changed. it is huge to see how it inspires the young girl to come to watch us, to show that there is no pathway towards professionalism in a lot of sports nowadays, and in rugby.- professionalism in a lot of sports nowadays, and in rugby. thank you. phili in nowadays, and in rugby. thank you. philip in rutland. _ nowadays, and in rugby. thank you. philip in rutland. good _ nowadays, and in rugby. thank you. philip in rutland. good morning. . nowadays, and in rugby. thank you. | philip in rutland. good morning. you work in a primary _ philip in rutland. good morning. you work in a primary school, _ philip in rutland. good morning. you work in a primary school, what's - work in a primary school, what's
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happening?— work in a primary school, what's hauuenin? ., ,, . ., happening? rutland is such an active coun . we happening? rutland is such an active county- we have _ happening? rutland is such an active county. we have so _ happening? rutland is such an active county. we have so much _ happening? rutland is such an active county. we have so much on - happening? rutland is such an active county. we have so much on offer i happening? rutland is such an active| county. we have so much on offer not only from our academy trust but in the whole county. we have the fa shooting stars programme, which is teaching girls physical literacy and helping with social, emotional and mental health through sport. they learn through six weeks of working through aladdin or the lion king and didn't really realise what they are doing, but they become more competent. once they get to the higher reaches in the primary school they arejoining in higher reaches in the primary school they are joining in with football, rugby, having a go with anything. catching them early and saying, try anything, because you don't know what you are like until you tried. that is so true, that is a life lesson. natasha, sportsjournalist,
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is with us. we also have betty coming up. we have not had the tv viewing pictures from the world cup final. an average of 13.23 million viewers —— watched it. 10.6 million on bbc one. those figures don't yet include other platforms. that is really big. don't forget, that is first thing on a sunday morning. loads of stuff going on up and down the country first thing on a sunday morning forfamilies. lee, who runs a marketing agency, i would have thought that it be known at eight o'clock at night they would have been even more than that. but what a
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great audience. been even more than that. but what a great audience-— great audience. morning. absolutely. one of the callers _ great audience. morning. absolutely. one of the callers earlier _ great audience. morning. absolutely. one of the callers earlier says - one of the callers earlier says opportunity, exposure and investment. that is incredible exposure as we have seen over the last month, particularly this weekend. had this been prime—time viewing, that number would have been significantly increased again. that exposure that the lionesses have provided this summer, i have spent the summer watching england women's cricket. exposure in golf is increasing all the time. women's sport is catching up on decades of underfunding. the challenges are many and it is about where, going forward, is the next best place to focus our efforts? did forward, is the next best place to focus our efforts?— forward, is the next best place to focus our efforts? did you come up with the name _ focus our efforts? did you come up with the name lionesses, - focus our efforts? did you come up with the name lionesses, am - focus our efforts? did you come up with the name lionesses, am i - focus our efforts? did you come up| with the name lionesses, am i right in saying? it with the name lionesses, am i right in sa inc? , .,
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with the name lionesses, am i right in sa inc? ,. ., with the name lionesses, am i right insa inc? ., _, in saying? it is a great brand. the brand is one _ in saying? it is a great brand. the brand is one thing, _ in saying? it is a great brand. the brand is one thing, but _ in saying? it is a great brand. the brand is one thing, but it - in saying? it is a great brand. the brand is one thing, but it is - in saying? it is a great brand. the brand is one thing, but it is what| brand is one thing, but it is what they do on the pitch that cements that brand. i was working at the fa backin that brand. i was working at the fa back in 2011 and it was a name that had been used in passing around the millwall lionesses, an historic name in women's football. it is something we began to use to differentiate between the men's and women's team. we started to build the community and grantaround we started to build the community and grant around their success on the pitch, it is taken on a life of its own. 80% of what happens on the pitch, 20% what we can do off the pitch, 20% what we can do off the pitch to help create that brand. i pitch to help create that brand. i have heard it as well, women's, the matilda's, we don't say actresses any more, you have heard that argument, how you respond? i
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any more, you have heard that argument, how you respond? i have heard that argument _ argument, how you respond? i have heard that argument a _ argument, how you respond? i have heard that argument a lot. - argument, how you respond? i have heard that argument a lot. it - argument, how you respond? i have heard that argument a lot. it is - heard that argument a lot. it is something you should always re—evaluate. it was ten years ago when this was created. it was created because we needed to continually push the game forward to make that difference at a time when the women's team is actively ignored by the media, by the sponsors. it was to try to create a community around the game. now it stands alone as an identity. when you say the all blacks, you know exactly who you're talking about. lionesses is nowjust second hand for the women's team here in england. it is something that women of all ages, men of all ages can identify with, and that a start of the battle, to talk about exposure. start of the battle, to talk about exosure. ~ i. .., , exposure. when you came up with the idea, did everyone _
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exposure. when you came up with the idea, did everyone around _ exposure. when you came up with the idea, did everyone around the - exposure. when you came up with the idea, did everyone around the table i idea, did everyone around the table 90, idea, did everyone around the table go, yes, that's brilliant!— go, yes, that's brilliant! there wasn't many _ go, yes, that's brilliant! there wasn't many of _ go, yes, that's brilliant! there wasn't many of us _ go, yes, that's brilliant! there wasn't many of us round - go, yes, that's brilliant! there wasn't many of us round the l go, yes, that's brilliant! there - wasn't many of us round the table back then! plenty of people at the fa that have been champions of the woman's game for so long. those people did so much for the game. it has taken on a life of its own. viewers to bbc two and bbc news are leaving us now.
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live from london, this is bbc news. child killer lucy letby — guilty of murdering seven babies — arrives at manchester crown court for sentencing. southern california is hit by torrential rain in the first tropical storm there for 80 years — a state of emergency is declared. spain celebrates sunday's victory in the women 5 world cup final while england's lionesses fly home from sydney after their defeat. hello, i'm frankie mccamley. we start with the sentencing of nurse lucy letby —
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the most prolific killer of children in modern british history. convicted of the murder of seven babies and attempting to murder six others at the countess of chester hospital, she'll be sentenced today at manchester crown court. but she's indicated that she wont attend the hearing. her refusal to be in court has led to renewed calls for a law forcing convicted criminals to attend their sentencing in person. let's head straight to manchester. anna foster is there for us now. anna, personal statements will be made to the judge during sentencing, but lucy letby won't be there to hear them? that is correct. lucy letby�*s legal team at the suggestion that while she is in court here, she would not return to the dock in the courtroom for what will be a lengthy
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