we're trying to prevent war. look at what putin did today. live from milwaukee, he killed prigozhin. when i was wisconsin, this is a bbc special from the first at the un, the russian ambassador suddenly died. this republican presidential debate. guy is a murderer. and you're the dust choosing a murderer over a is starting to settle, as the first us republican pro—american country. let's bring our panel presidential debate wraps up. back in on that. donald trump sat out the debate, choosing instead to give an interview to a former you know it's not very usual we fox news host. see foreign policy factor into he's due to surrender the debate. this was one of the to georgia authorities on thursday. changes that really stood out. and i'm sumi somaskanda what did you make of it? it was in washington. questions swirl and drama grows over the reported death of wagner leader yevgeny prigozhin in a plane crash. very interesting how much nikki haley went after ramaswamy. he was boasting about the fact he didn't have, he says he would come to washington with fresh eyes, he's not steeped into hello, i'm caitriona perry. that old foreign policy establishment. she pretty we are live effectively turned that against from milwaukee, wisconsin him, saying, look, you have no where eight republican presidential candidates have experience and it shows. she been trying to stand out

from the pack, and move really went after him on towards their party's ukraine, on his — on him saying he would not support any more nomination. over the course funding for the ukraine war and it was up to the europeans to of about two hours, and going — the seven men shoulder that burden, saying, and one women addressed topics look, the united states can do both of these things, we can like abortion and climate change, the economy support the ukraine war and and what they see as deal with things at home. and the failings of the biden administration. putin, as you heard her saying there, is a murderer. that was notably absent was the party's frontrunner, former president donald trump. instead, he sat for a pre—recorded interview with former fox news host tucker carlson that was posted an effective moment for nikki online just minutes before the start of the debate hosted haley. it showed the by fox news began. differences between the candidates. this was a substantive policy debate, let's get straight to our particularly on the issues panel for their initial takes on this debate. where they disagree. and joining me is katty kay, bbc�*s us special correspondent, there's clear disagreements on political strategist and two time presidential campaign ukraine, with nikki supporting chief spokesperson rina shah, america's involvement, and vivek ramaswamy saying they and matt terrill who should wind it down. it is the managing partner at firehouse strategies and former chief of staff to marco rubio�*s presidential campaign. highlighted some very matt terrill i will give you interesting differences in the republican field. we'll have hometown advantage as a more coverage of the gop debate wisconsin native, what is your in milwaukee. initial reaction to how things two months after he led went tonight?— a failed mutiny against

vladimir putin, russian mercenary leader evegeny prigozhin is reported initial reaction to how things went tonight? look, as we saw to have been killed. this footage verified in that debate _ went tonight? look, as we saw in that debate staged - went tonight? look, as we saw in that debate staged tonight, | in that debate staged tonight, those candidates on the stage by the bbc shows the moment his wagner group's private jet were drawing contrast among hurtled to earth about 300km each other, having debate among or 200 miles each other, having debate among each other, having debate among each other but not a lot of north—west of moscow. pictures have emerged of the aftermath of the crash, text or contrast with the which happened about halfway leading candidate former through the flight from moscow to st petersburg, while the plane was at its cruising president donald trump, not altitude. much in terms of attacks or trajectory data suggest the aircraft essentially contrast, what does that mean dropped out of the sky. for the race? i do not think much was done in the debate russia's aviation agency shared what it claimed was a list of the passengers on the doomed which will leave the president, flight — among them, the former president to think mr prigozhin and key wagner he would participate in the commander dmitry utkin. next debate, we will see how it as police cordoned off takes shape, candidates had a the crash site, russia's discussion with each other but emergency ministry claimed that ten bodies has been recovered the former president was locked from the wreckage. the bbc has not been able out of the discussion in terms to independently verify of contrast or attacks.- this information yet. but outside the wagner group headquarters in st petersburg, mourners have been laying of contrast or attacks. katie flowers and lighting candles. ka , do of contrast or attacks. katie kay. do you _ of contrast or attacks. katie kay, do you agree - of contrast or attacks. katie kay, do you agree with - of contrast or attacks. katie l if mr prigozhin is indeed dead, kay, do you agree with that? it would be an abrupt end — yes, i think this is true... if but it's not unexpected, as will vernon explains from moscow. this was a normal debate in

normal political times would i don't think this news has have been a very good one. surprised anyone here today. around an hour after that plane crash, the russian federal aviation authority released a statement confirming yevgeny inaudible. inaudible. her line prigozhin's name was on the passenger manifest of that plane. that is very fast for that particular agency. it usually takes much longer to respond to incidents like this. seems to have _ that already raised a few inaudible. inaudible. her line seems to have frozen. _ inaudible. inaudible. her line seems to have frozen. we - inaudible. inaudible. her line seems to have frozen. we will i seems to have frozen. we will come back to her latest copy do eyebrows here because after you think anyone managed to all, speculation has been make themselves stand out from swirling for some time now the crowd here, with absence of donald trump that is what they just exactly about what fate were all hoping to do, have a would await yevgeny prigozhin. shot at the limelight themselves? . , , when yevgeny prigozhin themselves? certainly these candidates _ themselves? certainly these candidates all _ themselves? certainly these candidates all of _ themselves? certainly these candidates all of them - themselves? certainly these candidates all of them talk l candidates all of them talk about their positions on the keyissues launched his mutiny exactly two about their positions on the key issues republican voters care about, this was more traditional debate talking about key issues from months ago, his wagner mercenaries seized a major integration to fiscal issues, to a number of other issues russian city and even that were front and centre marched on moscow. that was hugely humiliating for among republican voters the kremlin and vladimir putin is not the kind of man to forget that.

nationwide and voters in key if pregozhin was killed states such as iowa will in the plane crash today which is likely, ultimately determine this it will come as no republican nomination process. shock whatsoever at the end of the say for these to most people here. most people will probably be surprised it did not happen candidates to breakthrough they sooner. we don't know what exactly have to take a rest, we did not too many do that tonight caused that crash, especially as it relates to drawing contrast between the russian media are saying front runner in that relate investigators are looking race and that is former into a number of different president donald trump. we did possibilities, including what they are calling not see them going attack on external actions. him drawing contrast, they focused on the issues, they had some back—and—forth with each earlier on wednesday, us other among their own contrast president biden echoed that on those on the stage, but no—one on the stage or front sentiment. i president biden echoed that sentiment-— runners, the front runner is president biden echoed that sentiment. i don't know for a fact what _ sentiment. i don't know for a fact what happened - sentiment. i don't know for a fact what happened but - sentiment. i don't know for a fact what happened but i'm l sentiment. i don't know for a l fact what happened but i'm not surprised. not much happens in former president donald trump, russia without putin knowing if you want to break through about it. you have to draw contrast with i also spoke with him. with that said it is a kurt volker, former us special envoy for ukraine and former balancing act, with their us ambassador to nato campaigns voters realise donald to get his reaction on the developments. trump has a strong standing ambassador, thank you very much with many of those gop based forjoining us on bbc news. i voters who decide the want to get your reaction to selection. a balancing act but the news that we're seeing. something these candidates need first off, we know that to figure out they expect to prigozhin was on the manifest

of the plane that was shot win. , ., down. we don't know whether he was physically on the plane win. there were some statistics released after _ win. there were some statistics released after the _ win. there were some statistics released after the first - win. there were some statistics released after the first hour- released after the first hour of the debate in terms of how that was shot down or not. we many candidates were speaking also don't know whether he was for how long, turned out my p alive before the plane was shot spoke for most of the first down. so there's just a lot hour, to that surprise you? he that has to be unpacked here. is one of— what i think we do know is that hour, to that surprise you? he: is one of the leading contenders when it comes to some of the polling we have seen, we have seen that governor santos and some of these other candidates leading in the polls, you saw the front putin understood that prigozhin's rebellion two months ago was a threat to his runners on that debate stage claim to lead russia, and it taking on president trump who got more airtime, that is not putin ——it put putin in a very uncommon when you see these weak position. he needed to presidential debates, those who show he was taking prigozhin are leading the pack in the polls trying to get more air down. that is what today's events were all about. whether time tend away and more. to it's real or a spectacle, it's your point former vice about putting putin back in president mike pence was going on the attack to a few of those charge. about putting putin back in charae. ., charge. you said the struggle between putin _ charge. you said the struggle between putin and _ candidates that debate stage, charge. you said the struggle between putin and prigozhinl charge. you said the struggle l between putin and prigozhin is not over. if this is indeed going out there and making his case, ultimately that some confirmed, why do you think we're seeing this happen now? these candidates did on the stage but not to be redundant well, i think that it's about this the reality is if important for putin to wait, you want to win this primary

contest you had to draw choose his timing, choose his moment, and then show that he contrast and go on the attack is the man in command. because against the believed contender in the race president trump, his claim to power in russia is really that he's the guy who is none of these candidates really did that largely speaking for this race tonight. figs in charge, he's the guy who can get things done. if that's ever questioned, then he's in an did that largely speaking for this race tonight.— this race tonight. as you mentioned _ this race tonight. as you mentioned this - this race tonight. as you | incredibly weak position, mentioned this evening's this race tonight. as you - mentioned this evening's debate is happening under the shadow especially because a lot of the of donald trump �*s mounting decisions that he has made have weakened russia over time. so, legal troubles, of donald trump �*s mounting legaltroubles, him of donald trump �*s mounting legal troubles, him and has 18 this is critical for him as a codefendants facing a looming way of showing that he is deadline to surrender to actually the guy in charge. and authorities and chat georgia i think, as again i said, we after being indicted on charges related to alleged efforts to don't know what exactly happened. there's a lot yet to overturn the 2020 election. unpack. but the imagery here is just a few hours ago, trump's former personal all in favour of vladimir putin attorney rudy giuliani and trump's election lawyer, showing he's the guy calling sidney powell turned themselves the shots. in and were released on bond. showing he's the guy calling the shots-— theyjoin a growing showing he's the guy calling the shots. ., ., ~ ., the shots. how would ukraine and nato both _ list of co—defendeants the shots. how would ukraine and nato both be _ the shots. how would ukraine and nato both be looking - the shots. how would ukraine and nato both be looking at i and nato both be looking at this news? mi; who have surrendered ahead of the friday deadline set and nato both be looking at this news?— and nato both be looking at this news? g . . ., ,, by the fulton country this news? my advice to the us and nato is _ attorney general. this news? my advice to the us and nato is - — this news? my advice to the us and nato is - and _ this news? my advice to the us donald trump is expected and nato is - and the _ this news? my advice to the us and nato is - and the uk- this news? my advice to the us and nato is - and the uk as - and nato is — and the uk as well — is that this is a side to turn himself in on thursday. show. this is entertaining, it's interesting. it tells us mr trump's upcoming legal appearance led to one of the stand—out something about what is going questions of the night. on inside russia. our strategy take a look.

should be clear and unchanged. this does not affect our strategy. forthe yawl signed a pledge to support this does not affect our strategy. for the us and for the republican nominee. if all nato and the uk, it is our vital interest that ukraine my president trump was defeat russian forces that are convicted in a court of law, attacking ukraine, and recover would you still support him as its territory. that we bring your party's choice? please ukraine into nato, and we lock rains your hands if you would. down security in europe again for the future. we don't want to have to face wars in europe cheering and applause. just... indefinitely and the way to do thatis indefinitely and the way to do that is to win this one now, give them the equipment they hold on. need and let them win, and lock it down by bringing them into nato and deterring any further aggression in europe. what nato and deterring any further aggression in europe. what do ou think the former president spoke aggression in europe. what do you think the _ aggression in europe. what do you think the implications - about the legal case you think the implications might be for wagner group against him in georgia, fighters who have also been of in that interview with former fox news host tucker carlson. course on the battlefield in take a look. ukraine?— course on the battlefield in ukraine? ., ~ �* , ukraine? yeah, i think there's he did address these charges a different— ukraine? yeah, i think there's a different strategy _ ukraine? yeah, i think there's against him and why he was a different strategy here - ukraine? yeah, i think there's a different strategy here for i a different strategy here for the wagner group. what russia smart here tonight.- would like to do is against him and why he was smart here tonight. they don't have a case. — smart here tonight. they don't have a case, even _ smart here tonight. they don't have a case, even the - smart here tonight. they don't i reconstitute the wagner group have a case, even the democrats so you cannot bring these cases, you have no case, the into something else, that is attorney general or district under kremlin control, but

attorney, fani willis, in still operating independently as a military contractor atlanta, she is getting killed. outside of russia, so they can basically she is saying trump go the kinds of things the does not have the right to russian military wants to deny. criticise an election. there's the goal of the kremlin to preserve an external contracting military force they can actually control, that they can't really control wagner right now. and to separate prigozhin from that, and to let's get straight back separate some fighters from to our panel for their initial that, who may be loyal to takes on this debate. joining me is katty kay, prigozhin, and make them bbc�*s us special correspondent, trainers in the russian political strategist and two military. so they're trying to time presidential campaign chief spokesperson rina shah, figure out how can they get a and matt terrill who benefit here. get some guys to is the managing partner at firehouse strategies and former chief of staff to marco rubio's presidential make the russian military campaign. donald trump absent the asa2 on better, meanwhile, keep a loyal your tv, we looked at that tape external security force operative that the kremlin can really control.— where people hesitantly put up really control. ambassador, thank you — really control. ambassador, thank you so _ really control. ambassador, thank you so much - really control. ambassador, thank you so much for- really control. ambassador, l thank you so much forjoining us. thank you so much for “oining us. ., ~' their hands, what was your view thank you so much for “oining us. ., ~ , ., thank you so much for “oining us. . ~' i” ., thank you so much for “oining us. . ~ ., ., of that interaction?— of that interaction? that was an important _ of that interaction? that was we're going to say an important moment - of that interaction? that was an important moment in - of that interaction? that was an important moment in the | an important moment in the debate we saw the hesitation goodbye to our pbs viewers that some of these candidates in the us now. i'm sumi somaskanda. thanks for watching. have, you have two of the candidates, chris christiansen

and lisa hutchinson who said they would not support donald trump off with a nominee for the party but the others did turning back to us raise their hands but as if politics and we have two major stories this hour — they were looking around to see one in the state of georgia, and the other in milwaukee what each other were doing wisconsin, where we hand over apart from vivek ramaswamey who to the bbc�*s caitrionia has been in the donald trump camp. that outlines for you perry who's there. just how much of a problem and away donald trump is for these you may be able to see the candidates. they want to distinguish themselves from invited audience who have him, some of them are quite filled the stadium for the debate are filing out now. a critical of him on certain issues. they also do not want big moment for the republican to alienate his base, it is a fine line they have to walk. no party, the official kick—off candidate perhaps more than for their primary season, a lot mike pence face this in the of people dressed up, very course of the debate when he fancy, taking selfies. they wanted to align himself with some of president trump's came to see the eight policies in the white house, wanted to keep his supporters candidates who want to on board but wanted to draw a challenge for the white house. donald trump choosing to skip distinction between what he did on january distinction between what he did onjanuary six and what to debate here, and do that resident trumpeted on january six. pre—recorded interview with former fox news host instead. resident trumpeted onjanuary six. it is resident trumpeted on january six. it is tricky for these but let's bring you some more candidates to know how they can distinguish themselves without alienating people who are very of what was said in the debate here. quite — the second topic

supportive of the former for discussion was on climate president.— change and the environment. the supportive of the former resident. ~ , ., ., president. we should point out it was an hour— order of which may have president. we should point out it was an hour or _ president. we should point out it was an hour or so _ president. we should point out surprised some. let's have a it was an hour or so before - it was an hour or so before donald trump was actually mentioned by name. what you make of that and that listen to what vivek ramaswamy had to say. i'm the only person interaction and what katie was saying there? for on the stage who isn't bought and changed for, the climate interaction and what katie was saying there?— interaction and what katie was saying there? for donald trump change agenda is a hoax. the to come no _ saying there? for donald trump to come no so — saying there? for donald trump to come up so late _ saying there? for donald trump to come up so late in _ saying there? for donald trump to come up so late in the - to come up so late in the debate was quite surprising, i climate change agenda is a hoax. we have to declare think that tightrope act that independence from it. and the these candidates had to walk tonight was not as overt as i reality is, the anti—carbon had expected it to be. there agenda is the wet blanket on our economy. and so the reality were so much substance tonight and the brawling between issues is, more people are dying of was so fast paced. there were bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate so much for the audience to change. chew on. the republican than they are of actual climate chance. ,., ., ., ., electorate which has not heard change. governor, governor hale , change. governor, governor haley. are _ change. governor, governor haley. are you _ change. governor, governor much substance in quite some haley, are you bought... i change. governor, governor| haley, are you bought... our anel haley, are you bought... our panel are _ haley, are you bought... our panel are still _ haley, are you bought... our panel are still with _ haley, are you bought... our time, probably felt by gerard byatt in fact, a great many people could have looked to panel are still with us. - tonight and thought who was a breakaway star, who got the haley, are you bought... oi" panel are still with us. katy kay, and matt tyrrell. i may most applause and vivek ramaswamey, the unknown non— ask you for your reaction to politician type, did get so that exchange, calling climate change a hoax. what do you make much applause and that

audience. but it was tough to of it? ~ look away when it seemed that he and former vice president change a hoax. what do you make of it? ,, ., .,, ., , change a hoax. what do you make ofit? ,, ., ., , , of it? vivek ramaswamy is mike pence continually went at clearly the _ of it? vivek ramaswamy is clearly the most _ of it? vivek ramaswamy is| clearly the most outspoken of it? vivek ramaswamy is . clearly the most outspoken on theissue clearly the most outspoken on the issue of climate change, it, delivering jabs at each and saying what america needs other that had nothing to do to do is burn more coal, with donald trump at moments, but more so aboutjust the fact produce more nuclear, drill that the republican party seems more, very much not an to be its own greatest enemy in this moment. that is what vivek environmental policy, green policy that he was putting out there. again, it's interesting ramaswamey wanted to push mike pence, and mike pence took looking at those focus groups of how that we want down, it great issue with that and had doesn't go down particularly fair amount of support from others on the stage as well. well. those instant reaction focus groups didn't like what what you think of that that the they heard there. and when you look at young voters in america republican party is its own worst enemy at the moment? i in particular, actually action on climate change is something they say is important to them. so, it would be hard to see how think certainly many people in the republican party made those primary voters who will decide that went down with young this nomination are in lockstep voters. all of the candidates with the former president are going to take more of a trump. this was certainly a hawkish position when it comes balancing act and has been a balancing act and has been a balancing act and has been a balancing act many of these to climate change than the candidates have had to walk democratic party is, for here. earlier on in the debate example. there was less earlier on in the process when disagreement on climate change many of these candidates were among this group than on some

announcing their candidacies, of the other issues they raised, on issues like they related to an argument of abortion, on some issues around collectability, they would be spending, and particularly on more electable than the former issues around ukraine. president trump in the general election. the problem with that argument is president biden, his approval rating is not matt, your view on that? it's great right now, he is under water and many of the key state issue that — matt, your view on that? it's issue that came _ matt, your view on that? it�*s issue that came up in the debate. we did see as many files that decide the 2024 candidates have done on the trail, draw a contrast with election, right now we have these candidates were trying to this issue to other issues break through but there is a taking shape in the debate that recognition that in terms of many of the voters care about. the republican party, is our voters, they are very much in lockstep many of them with the such as foreign policy and former president, even many of china issues, such as energy dependence issues. certainly those undecided voters in the when climate change comes up in race on the gop side they still this debate and other debates, voters are focused not just like for my president trump, as the candidates try to talk this debate and other debates, voters are focused notjust on that issue but other key issues about substance, that matters such as energy independence, to voters but ultimately voters some china—related issues were will decide a candidate and discussed tonight as well, hope is not a strategy. these ultimately, if you look at most candidates are hoping for my of the polling done, in key president trump declines in the states like iowa and new polls, that is not going to hampshire, this is not an issue work, somehow they have to find a way to break through, draw among the gop electorate that's

contrast, is difficult to do right now given that balancing very high in terms of the key act candidates have to walk issues. if you look at iowa, given the popularity president it's immigration. it's spending. those are the kind of trump have so many of these gop core issues that a lot of based voters. fin voters are focused on right now, in the gop debate. and trump have so many of these gop based voters-— based voters. on that point of collectability _ based voters. on that point of collectability what _ based voters. on that point of collectability what is - based voters. on that point of collectability what is your - collectability what is your take away from the debate, do focused on is the key early you think anyone may have states that will decide the changed the positioning and nomination. an important issue that voters have a right to where they are seen within the campaign, anyone that will hear candidates on, certainly stand out? i there's other issues that were campaign, anyone that will stand out?— stand out? i would be surprised. _ stand out? i would be discussed along with it, such surprised. the - stand out? i would be surprised. the only i stand out? i would be i surprised. the only way stand out? i would be - as energy independence, surprised. the only way they get to a position in the china—related issues, and the republican party where somebody debate talking about some of can take on donald trump if the those core issues such as field narrows significantly. we spending, immigration, that many of the gop voters rank on may see some candidates drop the core issues. out after the debate, seems that would seem a little early to me but it does not seem to rina shah that was one of the be one person had such a stellar performance. if ron more energised exchanges of the debate, that issue around desantis had gone into the climate change?— debate and while the crowds at the finish you might have been able to say voters would look debate, that issue around climate change? early on in the debate and _ at him again, and his support climate change? early on in the debate and to _ climate change? early on in the debate and to hear— climate change? early on in the debate and to hear much - climate change? early on in the debate and to hear much about| debate and to hear much about it was too many people quite would rise and he could take on surprising, myself included. i donald trump and more of a two

person matchup, there was have known for years there are so many pro— conservation no—one candidate that had such republicans across the country an extraordinary night they would be able to do that. vivek like me, who care about being good stewards of the environment.- ramaswamey was perhaps the most energetic early on, they help good stewards of the environment. ., ., ., ., , 38 environment. for a man who is 38 to come _ environment. for a man who is 38 to come right _ environment. for a man who is —— they have these 38 to come right out _ environment. for a man who is 38 to come right out and - environment. for a man who is 38 to come right out and say i 38 to come right out and say what he did i believe was so technological ways of measuring tonyjefferson i do not think it will play well with what voters think of certain comments and there was certain millennials and jen see things he said that independent registered republicans because voters and republican voters especially looking at this did not like during the course of the debate on those instant number in the united states we tile reaction things. i would have seen extreme temperatures and extreme weather events be surprised this shuffles the happen. so that lack of acknowledgement for the moment decor changes the dynamics of the race. ., ., ., ~ this is a global problem as well and many experts have talked about migration patterns the race. you have worked with independent — the race. you have worked with independent and _ the race. you have worked with independent and republican . changing, due to these extreme independent and republican candidate, no standout stellar temperatures and weather events, i believe vivek performance, do you agree? i ramaswamey really missed a moment and coloured himself in must say the phrase of the night seemed to be spending. the wrong shade for that issue because this is a moment when and so much of the moderators questions centred on what these people think of as their role you can say frack and burn and as the commander—in—chief, but beyond that how they would talk about nuclear but if you are not willing to have a allocate the money that the practical stance on the issue of climate change you are

federal government has in its showing you cannot be taken coffers. and so that was very seriously and i found surprising to me, to see how showing you cannot be taken seriously and ifound his comments a bit disqualifying. these candidates differed in many ways, it is a very —— at to the contrary i found nikki haley's comments to be rather the beginning of the debate what struck me and what refreshing. people would think climate to nihilism runs highlighted that point i made rampant in today's gop but i do earlier about republicans being there own worst enemy right now see the tide turning and i is the point nikki haley made, think vivek ramaswamey is completely out of touch on that issue, i would completely out of touch on that issue, iwould be she said when asked how she completely out of touch on that issue, i would be interested to see in the polling in the days would turn around the economy to come. she said biden, biden did not do this to us, republicans did see in the polling in the days to come-— to come. let's have another listen to _ to come. let's have another listen to a — to come. let's have another listen to a piece _ to come. let's have another listen to a piece from - to come. let's have another listen to a piece from the i listen to a piece from the this to us. it was a bold debate because vivek ramaswamey became a common target on the moment she mentioned $2.2 debate stage here in the rocky trillion in spending and she name checked those around her, on several sessions, other she named out three people turned on him for his position. these other people responsible now was not the time for for having voted to raise the debt and then she went even on—the—job training, we do not need to bring in a rocky, we do further and said donald trump added $1 trillion to the debt, not need to bring in people she said it's time for an without experience. hold on, accountant in the white house. i thought that was incredibly pivotal for the conversation hold on. i that followed. notjust without experience. hold on, pivotal for the conversation hold on. ., ., ., hold on. i have had enough already tonight _ hold on. i have had enough that followed. not just for her already tonight of - hold on. i have had enough already tonight of a - hold on. i have had enough already tonight of a guy - hold on. i have had enoughl already tonight of a guy who

but other people but we heard sounds _ already tonight of a guy who sounds like chat gpt standing these candidates talk about the up sounds like chat gpt standing record and vivek ramaswamey was up here _ only one on the stage he does not have that form are elected sounds like chat gpt standing up here. in the last person in official monica the others did one— up here. in the last person in one of— up here. in the last person in one of these debates who stood in the _ one of these debates who stood in the middle of the stage and but to hear them talk about the said. — in the middle of the stage and said, what is a skinny diet many creative ways in which with— said, what is a skinny diet with an _ said, what is a skinny diet they would allocate or with an odd last name doing up reallocate the money a lot of here _ with an odd last name doing up here was— with an odd last name doing up here was barack obama and i'm afraid _ them talked a great deal about here was barack obama and i'm afraid we're dealing with the same — afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur standing them talked a great deal about the southern border and tied on the — same type of amateur standing on the stage tonight. mike issues of education, crime, public safety, right back to the southern border, so spending in the southern border pence and _ on the stage tonight. mike pence and chris _ on the stage tonight. mike pence and chris christie. l on the stage tonight. mike pence and chris christie. if on the stage tonight. mike | pence and chris christie. if i can bring you in on this, they with the two phrases that landed for all of these candidates tonight. had vivek ramaswamey in the crosshairs as did some of the that's all from here in milwaukee, other candidates, perhaps more sumi, back to you in dc. than ron desantis, does that mean they see vivek ramaswamey so, let's stay oras with the debate, but look mean they see vivek ramaswamey or as the next challenge now, at international affairs. it has moved on from ron vivek ramaswamey came under desantis?_ fire tonight for his it has moved on from ron desantis? ., ., «i ., . desantis? looking at the recent ollin: for desantis? looking at the recent polling for the _ desantis? looking at the recent polling for the past _ desantis? looking at the recent isolationist foreign polling for the past few - desantis? looking at the recent polling for the past few days - polling for the past few days and weeks, vivek ramaswamey has policy positions. 00:16:54,239 --> 2147483051:45:11,834 nikki haley called him out 2147483051:45:11,834 --> 4294966103:13:29,429 for his anti—ukraine stance. been gaining momentum, many would argue if you look at polling in the states of iowa and across the board, you saw that contrast with him on the

debate stage tonight, these candidates are looking at the field and looking at who has got momentum and who does not, and it is positioning right now. we saw that play out there we saw the moment governor christie in the debate there that was a moment that goes viral and to that point, it was notjust viral and to that point, it was not just what happens viral and to that point, it was notjust what happens in the minutes in the debate we are talking about right now it is what taking shake right now on the heels of the debate, moments like that will be doing viral. there will be other moments these candidates will not just want to reach out to voters but reach to donors with, expect to see fundraising e—mails going out by these campaigns and clipping some of these moments touches that utilise them in their campaign rhetoric. right now we are seeing momentum from some of these candidates in the field and obviously the position to place on that stage tonight contrast are taking place much of that is how they see other candidates in the race positioning themselves in the polls right now, especially

states like iowa. the big candidate they expect to focus on is the former president donald trump he has a wide lead in the race nationally and in the key early states, drawing contrast with him which is a balancing act given the strong standing he has with the gop electric by drawing a contrast with all my president trump is ultimately what they need to do to have a chance to win the nomination.— to have a chance to win the nomination. katty kay do you think anyone _ nomination. katty kay do you think anyone managed - nomination. katty kay do you think anyone managed to - nomination. katty kay do you think anyone managed to getj think anyone managed to get that momentum that matt terrill is talking about, get those viral moments that will help them with attention and fundraising from tomorrow? this was a normal _ fundraising from tomorrow? try 3 was a normal debate in normal times is a for several days afterwards you get the post debate tail which is what all of these candidates want, they want to be the person being talked about tomorrow, they want the spiral moments to go around if they are in their favour. you had to remember tomorrow there will be another huge american political news

story when donald trump hands himself to a jail in georgia on charges that he tried to subvert the 2020 election and that will then be a big news story and there will be the motorcade and following the motorcade and following the motorcade as we have done on previous occasions when he has been arraigned in court, then he will have some kind of rally afterwards. i'm not sure there will be that much of a tale to this, midnight on the east coast of the east coast are not many people who will have stayed up very late on the east coast of the united states to watch two of political debate over a year before an election, so they really need the spiral moments and i'm not sure if donald trump going to the jailhouse and georgia will not stamp on this and make it even harderfor stamp on this and make it even harder for these candidates to get any oxygen. harder for these candidates to get any oxygen-— harder for these candidates to get any oxygen. rina shah, what do ou get any oxygen. rina shah, what do you think. _ get any oxygen. rina shah, what do you think, can _ get any oxygen. rina shah, what do you think, can anyone - do you think, can anyone compete with donald trump in the new cycle tomorrow, based on their performance tonight?

one of my favourite performances from nikki haley and going and i could not have expected that. much has been said about her wanting to audition for number two, wanting to be vice president, she stands many people tonight because she took her gloves off and one of the favourite moments was when she said if you want something said ask a man, if you want something done, ask a woman. name checking people and not holding back at all and going for the jugular in many ways. tonight i knew there would be three camps of people, those who went for the jugular, of people, those who went for thejugular, those of people, those who went for the jugular, those who would tiptoe around donald trump and those who would act like they are the only thing who exist, there were candidates who not that —— did not get much talk time and those their

time and those who use their time and those who use their time to talk about donald trump. chris christie was one of those people and he was booed tonight, looking at tonight, i saw the audience was not chris green —— not chris christie friendly. they were not that friendly 22. they wanted fresh, new ideas, while trump did loom large over the debate and that newsday we're talking about tomorrow where we will about nothing else but this president facing the music, music after so long. it should be noted that these are people that want to reset the table for the republican party, they want to take it to a new error, they want to be the democrats and take back the white house in 2024. i do not think that will be lost on me people actually listening tonight, people who felt they needed to be talk about education, they needed to be

talk about how we see our place in the world and how we deal with threats like china. it was really refreshing in many ways but again, trump is a distraction, he remains one, his commentary tonight on his own counter programming, with tucker carlson on the platform formally known as tuitt stuff that cannot go away overnight, but many gyms were dropped by candid on stage tonight and i think they will play out well for many weeks to come. speaking of those in the running for a second place, the leader of that is the coroner governor ron desantis who is coming in second place albeit a very distant second place to donald trump at the polls. let's listen to a piece of what he had to say.— he had to say. our country is in decline. _ he had to say. our country is in decline. this _ he had to say. our country is in decline. this decline - he had to say. our country is in decline. this decline is - he had to say. our country is| in decline. this decline is not inevitable it is a choice, we need to send joe biden back to his basement and reverse american decline! inaudible.

when he was talking about the dark days of america, as ron desantis trying to chase the base and how he performed tonight? base and how he performed toniaht? ., ., , tonight? from all these candidates _ tonight? from all these candidates you - tonight? from all these candidates you have - tonight? from all these i candidates you have seen tonight? from all these - candidates you have seen there is a recognition that much of the rhetoric for my president trump — the rhetoric for my president trump took to the stage in 2016. _ trump took to the stage in 2016, and is that still resonates with these gop based voters. — resonates with these gop based voters, whether the policy is in many— voters, whether the policy is in many cases president trump enacted — in many cases president trump enacted all the rhetoric he bought— enacted all the rhetoric he bought to the campaign 2016 and beyond _ bought to the campaign 2016 and beyond that is still out there and resonating with the gop base, — and resonating with the gop base, to _ and resonating with the gop base, to answer your question, yes some — base, to answer your question, yes some of these candidates are making the statements or talking — are making the statements or talking about some of the key issues — talking about some of the key issues and policies or making statements they are making around _ statements they are making around the campaign trail much of it will—

around the campaign trail much of it will be aligned with president trump in many cases, not always— president trump in many cases, not always some of these candidates are taking a different approach going morgan and ty— different approach going morgan and ty president trump for lack of a better— and ty president trump for lack of a better phrase, the bottom lies as — of a better phrase, the bottom lies as at — of a better phrase, the bottom lies as at the end of the day the road _ lies as at the end of the day the road to the republican nomination for president does not go — nomination for president does not go around president trump, io not go around president trump, go straight through for my president trump and many of these — president trump and many of these gop based voters look at him and — these gop based voters look at him and believe that he is the candidate that they want to see back _ candidate that they want to see back in— candidate that they want to see back in the white house, and whether— back in the white house, and whether it is rhetoric, policies _ whether it is rhetoric, policies or what he would do on the campaign trail going forward that the something that will be — forward that the something that will be very hard for these candidates to catch up with. there — candidates to catch up with. there are _ candidates to catch up with. there are still a lot of time in the _ there are still a lot of time in the race but these debates are opportunities moments to draw— are opportunities moments to draw contrast with the front runner, _ draw contrast with the front runner, that is not something many— runner, that is not something many of— runner, that is not something many of these candidates to tonight— many of these candidates to tonight many would argue, and in the _ tonight many would argue, and in the end _ tonight many would argue, and in the end ultimately if you have — in the end ultimately if you have a _ in the end ultimately if you have a chance of winning the nomination you have to draw contrast— nomination you have to draw contrast with for my president trump, — contrast with for my president trump, very hard to do given the strong _ trump, very hard to do given

the strong standing he has with so many— the strong standing he has with so many gop based voters. katty ka is so many gop based voters. katty kay is that _ so many gop based voters. katty kay is that extra _ so many gop based voters. katty kay is that extra hard _ so many gop based voters. katty kay is that extra hard to - so many gop based voters. katty kay is that extra hard to do - so many gop based voters. katty kay is that extra hard to do in - kay is that extra hard to do in the front runner is not here at these other eight individuals are trying to have that debate without the ex—president here without the ex—president here without being able to engage without being able to engage with him. does it bring up the merit of holding the debates as —— at all? merit of holding the debates as -- at all? , merit of holding the debates as -- at all?— -- at all? there is certainly merit in — -- at all? there is certainly merit in holding _ -- at all? there is certainly merit in holding the - -- at all? there is certainly| merit in holding the debates and we learned about the positions on important issues who will face who ever is the next president of the united states, it was striking the degree to which they all struggled when it came to dealing with donald trump, the most striking you ask me about ron desantis, the degree to which he did not want to talk about donald trump, did not want to answer questions about january six, and what happened on that day, and eventually, he did say that mike pence did the right thing when he certified the election onjanuary right thing when he certified the election on january six, the election on january six, the day of the right at the

capital. it took them —— it took him mobile to get there and when he put up his hand to support donald trump he was hesitant, his position on donald trump is one of the most interesting, is ambivalence tonight highlighted what a problem donald trump is for them. the only way to the nomination is through donald trump not around them and none of the candidates tonight who really have a shot trying to reach donald trump decided to go there. reach donald trump decided to no there. ., ,, ., i. reach donald trump decided to rothere. ., ,, ., ., go there. rina shah, you have coached presidential - go there. rina shah, you have. coached presidential candidates in the past and worked on campaigns, what would you have been saying to the folks in terms of how to handle that question as catherine has been describing? {jut question as catherine has been describing?— describing? out of all the candidates _ describing? out of all the candidates that _ describing? out of all the candidates that handle i describing? out of all the | candidates that handle the question well i would say lisa hutchinson the former governor of arkansas candidate masterfully because he gave two reasons why, exactly. he could not support donald trump, he

was in the minority and did not raise his hand to say why, to say he would support trump in giving why it was exactly how you should explain yourself. and it was by the constitution and again when you bring up the constitution that is exactly what republican voters love to hear, they like to hear exactly what your answer is rooted in and he said i cannot vote somebody who has been seriously convicted of a serious felony and i cannot vote for somebody who is disqualified. he said it was the 14th amendment. this is a situation in which you really have to ask yourself, this is where, i think i am really worried about how the republican electorate is so bifurcated again in this moment, where it is either with trump or against moment, where it is either with trump oragainst him. moment, where it is either with trump or against him. it has been a long night for all these candidates but for somebody to systemically make the case as for why donald trump does not

deserve any republican support, that was going to be a tough thing to do but chris christie and asa hutchinson they did it as well as hot —— as possible. chris christie went over and over talking about the serious conduct, asa hutchinson routeing that in the constitution and law was a slamdunk and i hope that republicans will follow suit and start to say these other reasons for why we need to take a chance on someone stop. it was a long night for there candidates, two hours of debating. former us vice—president mike pence received boos from the audience when he offered his two cents on the age of the next president. we don't need a president. we don't need a president who is too old. we don't need a president who is too young. we need a president who has been there. we need a president who knows how congress works, how the white house works, how states work. on this education issue... that

was mike _ on this education issue... that was mike pence _ on this education issue... that was mike pence using - on this education issue... that was mike pence using the - was mike pence using the goldilocks argument, not too old, not too young, someone just right, ie, him. that old, not too young, someone just right, ie, him.— old, not too young, someone just right, ie, him. at the end ofthe just right, ie, him. at the end of the day. — just right, ie, him. at the end of the day, there's _ just right, ie, him. at the end of the day, there's a - just right, ie, him. at the end of the day, there's a phrase i of the day, there's a phrase once used in politics, it's not your age but the age of your ideas. a lot of these candidates are focused on what candidates are focused on what candidate in this race, and these voters are focused on, which candidate in this race is going to champion their ideas, going to champion their ideas, going to champion their ideas, going to champion their vision. if you go to iowa, new hampshire, nevada, voters in those states are looking at who is the candidate to defeat presidentjoe biden? who is going to champion their stances on the key issues they care about. at least right now, the frontrunner of this race, former president trump, is making the case to those voters he's that candidate. the polling is showing that. we're seeing that on the campaign trail, we saw the former president decide not to

participate in this debate, and many would argue by and large it won't hurt former president trump's candidacy going forward. it comes down to ideas. it comes down to a vision. it's going to come down to these candidates finding ways to break through. notjust breaking through the voters, but the candidates staying on the stage. we talk about viral potential moments out of this debate, the big thing for these candidates is continuing to prove to their voting base and their donors they should continue to have their back in going forward. this is a balancing act for these candidates in terms of shoring up candidates in terms of shoring up their own base, maintaining their base throughout the campaign. it comes down to ideas, it comes down to a vision. that's what the candidates are focused on here, they expect to break through to these voters. in the end, this is what this race comes down to. so far as the polling shows, former president trump appears to be breaking through to voters. fin appears to be breaking through to voters. ., ,., to voters. on that point, the are of

to voters. on that point, the age of the — to voters. on that point, the age of the ideas _ to voters. on that point, the age of the ideas or - to voters. on that point, the age of the ideas or the - to voters. on that point, the age of the ideas or the age l to voters. on that point, the| age of the ideas or the age of the candidate, both nikki haley and senator scott said it was time for a new generation of republican party leadership. what did you make of that central discussion?- what did you make of that central discussion? and vivek ramaswamy _ central discussion? and vivek ramaswamy really, _ central discussion? and vivek ramaswamy really, he's - central discussion? and vivek ramaswamy really, he's the i ramaswamy really, he's the youngest person on the stage, he's the person who doesn't have the year of history in policy and experience, but that's exactly why you should vote for me. the problem is his position on climate change, which if there's any group in the electorate that is concerned about climate change in the united states, it is younger voters. in the united states, it is youngervoters. he in the united states, it is younger voters. he alienated them when he said that climate change is a hoax and didn't engage with that. that's a problem. into this, as a way as the fresh person, he is younger, but he went into this saying i'm the person who is electable, i'm like donald trump in terms of policies and in terms of my position, where

i stand with the base, on issues particularly around cultural issues, but i don't have a baggage. i don't have the arrests, i don't have the impeachments, i don't have all the baggage that donald trump has, and therefore i'm the most electable. what republicans are now starting to think, because of — we talk about age, because of — we talk about age, because ofjoe biden's age, because they think he looks weak, because of the issues around hunter biden, and the fact that joe biden is having, even though the economy is performing better, he doesn't seem to get traction on it, perhaps the electability argument doesn't stand. we can take him on with a candidate we want, who is donald trump. desantis defence —— ron desantis�*s problem, he's trying to run to the right of donald trump, or be like donald trump, that won't work. there isn't

much room there. especially if republican voters think that biden is beatable with a candidate who has the kind of baggage that donald trump has. what did you think of his performance? was he running to be the vp?— be the vp? so, what i saw between _ be the vp? so, what i saw between two _ be the vp? so, what i saw between two candidates i be the vp? so, what i saw. between two candidates that be the vp? so, what i saw- between two candidates that are polling in the top tier right now, desantis and ramaswamy, i heard them paint that picture of america in decline. for desantis, that was his phrase of the night, america in decline, nation in decline. he said it so many more times than i expected him to. he didn't paint a picture of optimism. but ramaswamy injected some hopefulness. he wanted to really get to the minds of many republicans who might be lukewarm about him. he said he would be like reagan in the

80s. how they see america and how they want to take the nation forward, that will be really crucial in the next debate. hopefully the next moderators dig deep. there were moments in this debate when it went off the rails, nikki haley asked for it to be held under control by the moderators at some point. that's what i really think is what is at stake here, how the republicans choose to win the white house, in 2024. will they do it with a positive vision, or by instilling fear in their voters and saying show up for us, because this nation needs it, or it will go this other way. that's what tonight was all about. ~ ., ., about. ok. well, iwant to leave it— about. ok. well, iwant to leave it there _ about. ok. well, iwant to leave it there with - about. ok. well, iwant to leave it there with my - about. ok. well, i want to i leave it there with my panel and thank you all for your time this evening. i have bob costas, cbs news correspondent. quite the debate there. what did you make of it?

ijust there. what did you make of it? i just stepped out of the so—called spin room, where all the candidates have converged after this debate about their advisors and they're spinning their performances tonight. based on my private conversations with a few key players, this debate didn't change the overall contours. former president donald trump stills remains in the you have —— the view of his rivals and allies, the dominant force. the race to be the viable alternative, who can be credible in a general election, that race is on. former new jersey governor chris christie, the fast rising entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy. all of them sparred tonight on policies domestic and foreign. and for republican voters who are just starting to pay attention, this was an importantjuncture in the race. was an important “uncture in the _ the race. there were allegations - the race. there were allegations levelled l the race. there were l allegations levelled at the race. there were - allegations levelled at mike pence he was very being aggressive in his exchanges. mike pence, spent a career

known as very calm, not someone who jumps known as very calm, not someone whojumps into a conversation, he was aggressive tonight because he knows he has lingering in the single digits, he wanted to underscore his events on january six to certify the election, he wanted to speak to religious voters, especially in iowa. the pence campaign believe if he gets a bounce in the iowa caucuses, that will catapult him further in the process. he talked about his personal faith in the process. he talked about his personalfaith in a very vivid way, and tim scott of south carolina, talking up his own biography, his humble roots. �* , , . «i own biography, his humble roots. . ,, ., «i ., roots. and speaking of mike pence's role _ roots. and speaking of mike pence's role on _ roots. and speaking of mike pence's role on january - roots. and speaking of mike pence's role on january six, | pence's role on january six, there was an interesting exchange when all the candidates were asked if he was right in his actions and ron desantis struggled to give an answer there. it desantis struggled to give an answer there.— answer there. it was a microcosm _ answer there. it was a microcosm of - answer there. it was a microcosm of how - answer there. it was a microcosm of how so l answer there. it was a - microcosm of how so many republican candidates feel like they're on a balancing beam in

this republican presidential race. in the sense they don't want to alienate trump or trump supporters, but at the same time they want to make sure they're seen as republicans who follow the rule of law and abide by the constitution. so, you saw a range of responses on how pence handled his constitutional duty on january six, ranging from relatively muted, from ron desantis, to enthusiastic and encouraging from governor christie. idia enthusiastic and encouraging from governor christie. do you think there _ from governor christie. do you think there will _ from governor christie. do you think there will come - from governor christie. do you think there will come a - from governor christie. do you | think there will come a moment when they need to get off the fence? that republicans will see through the hedging the bets. . , see through the hedging the bets. ., , . ., see through the hedging the bets. ._ . ., ., see through the hedging the bets. _, ., ., bets. there may come a moment. havin: bets. there may come a moment. having covered — bets. there may come a moment. having covered presidential- having covered presidential politics for over a decade, very few candidates are self—aware of when the moment is, sometimes they need to be nudged off the fence. sometimes it comes from family members, from donors, if the donations start driving up. supporters if they're not winning in the early stages. we're in an early

crossroads, they all still believe they have a path. mitt romney, ——he wrote an op—ed that says the field must be winnowed for anyone to take on donald trump. no—one wants to accept that political reality. is there anyone who willjust have fallen off the end? is there anyone who will 'ust have fallen off the end? former arkansas governor _ have fallen off the end? former arkansas governor asa - arkansas governor asa hutchinson and doug burgen, they're at the far end of the stage. the moderators and the rivals are focusing on those in the higher polling positions. it's hard for them to continue to meet the fundraising thresholds and polling thresholds. but you never know. sometimes low key, slow and

steady, can win you a race. but the rnc keeps raising the thresholds.— the rnc keeps raising the thresholds. ., , ., thresholds. doug had his moment in terms of _ thresholds. doug had his moment in terms of damaging _ thresholds. doug had his moment in terms of damaging his - in terms of damaging his athlete's tendon and being on crutches and still managing to stand for the two hours. there's still a question behind the scenes, about whether some people will eventually leave the stage and hope to be the running mate, to be the vice—presidential nominee. if not that, end up in the cabinet if the republicans win the presidency. if the republicans win the presidency-— presidency. you saw the protesters _ presidency. you saw the protesters outside - presidency. you saw the protesters outside who l presidency. you saw the i protesters outside who had those posters saying this was the vp debate.— those posters saying this was the vp debate. mostly trump supporters- _ the vp debate. mostly trump supporters. most _ the vp debate. mostly trump supporters. most of- the vp debate. mostly trump supporters. most of the - supporters. most of the supporters _ supporters. most of the supporters outside - supporters. most of the | supporters outside were supporters. most of the - supporters outside were trump supporters. do you think that's what we did see, that people were trying to shape up to appeal to an audience of one, essentially. i appeal to an audience of one, essentially-— essentially. i don't think this was a vice-presidential - essentially. i don't think this l was a vice-presidential debate was a vice—presidential debate in any way. i have covered these candidates, every one of them on stage i have met, i have known over the years. they are all running for the

presidency. now, some might have a far greater chance of winning the nomination than others. but it's a sleepy summer. they still have hope inside of their campaigns that something could happen, and they look at the frontrunner, and i've had this conversation with so many of these rival strategists, they say the frontrunner for the first time in history faces four criminal indictments. the after the debate, he's going to surrender to authorities, arrested in georgia for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. they all want to hang in the race, because they think maybe trump implodes. maybe he runs away with the nomination, but if he implodes, they want to be the nominee.— the nominee. tonight was important _ the nominee. tonight was important to _ the nominee. tonight was important to get - the nominee. tonight was important to get air - the nominee. tonight was important to get air time | the nominee. tonight was l important to get air time to

the nation. does anyone stand out, with the viral moment? vivek ramaswamy had a lot of moments. the challenge for him will be yes, he raised his profile tonight, he was at centre of so many fiery back and forths among so many candidates, they questioned his experience, they questioned some of his past statements. as much he was able to get an elevated position in terms of being in the spotlight, he also took some blows. they really came at him, especially former un ambassador nikki haley, saying on ukraine he's wrong, the traditional republicans framed him as a pop list outsider, not ready to be commander—in—chief. what sinks in with republicanian voters, he's a treasure voice —— fresh voice, or not ready to be commander—in—chief? it will be

interesting to watch how voters process the moments tonight. chris christie was on stage having some exchanges that are really combative? do voters give christie another chance? he has run for president before. ron desantis struggled to recapture the momentum of his campaign launch. can his slow and steady performance in the campaign tonight on the stage, he showed some vigor, he showed some command of his own positions, he avoided the fire fights politically, does it give desantis another look with voters? i'm wondering as a reporter. i'm going to find out on the campaign trail.- on the campaign trail. thanks indeed for — on the campaign trail. thanks indeed forjoining _ on the campaign trail. thanks indeed forjoining us - on the campaign trail. thanks indeed forjoining us tonight. | indeed forjoining us tonight. thanks to you for watching this special bbc news coverage of the first republican presidential debate of the 2024 campaign. that's all from us here in milwaukee. we'll leave you with these live pictures of london as we hand off to our colleagues there. take care.

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