them it seems. doesn't mean them it seems. whether_ doesn't mean them it seems. whether or not he's willing to have — whether or not he's willing to have that _ whether or not he's willing to have that put forward as his argument, i'm not sure because i would _ argument, i'm not sure because i would undermine his candidacy for president. that's an interesting part of this interplay as his case moves forward, _ interplay as his case moves forward, is how does candidate trump — forward, is how does candidate trump interact with defendant trump, — trump interact with defendant trump, and can his lawyers rein in candidate trump which might do a _ in candidate trump which might do a lot— in candidate trump which might do a lot of— in candidate trump which might do a lot of harm to the defence team? — do a lot of harm to the defence team? ~ ., ., ., ., team? we are hearing that that motorcade _ team? we are hearing that that motorcade is — team? we are hearing that that motorcade is getting _ team? we are hearing that that motorcade is getting very - team? we are hearing that that motorcade is getting very close | motorcade is getting very close to the phone countyjail, just a few minutes out, we'll have our correspondent monitoring, but sarah, one more question to you before we see that motorcade arrive at the fulton county jail, motorcade arrive at the fulton countyjail, how important it is a localjury in a trial? because this is something we've heard trump's legal team bring up heard trump's legal team bring up time and again, whether it's a case in new york or florida. the issue here in the president

is merely a big deal about this. how you get a fairjury in this situation like this for the case is so public, with the press is following it so closely and facts underlying the case have been part of a congressional inquiry and republic investigations and i think it comes down to how the jurors are picked and with the process is and getting a fair jury process is and getting a fair jury in the seven debilitated to make sure that happens. he said he can't get a fair trial in this city and others. it in this city and others. it will come down to the questions, those swinging of the buyersjurors and questions, those swinging of the buyers jurors and the fairly— the buyers jurors and the fairly large to report to get down — fairly large to report to get down to— fairly large to report to get down to the actual panel of jurors — down to the actual panel of jurors i _ down to the actual panel of jurors i think it would be possible but it is a slow

process _ possible but it is a slow process and in the united states— process and in the united states to see many high—profile cases— states to see many high—profile cases where there is greater media — cases where there is greater media attention even before the start— media attention even before the start of— media attention even before the start of the trial in those cases. _ start of the trial in those cases, there's quite a few defendants that were acquitted. hold on — defendants that were acquitted. hold on a moment because we are seeing the motorcade inching closer to the fulton county jail and they want to go and see as we are waiting for the president to arrive, we are seeing some images of trump supporters gathered at the courthouse and we do not know if they're in the same areas you are but give us an idea of what is going on around you? fix, what is going on around you? huge motorcade coming your way and a large number of police motorcycles coming in and those are atlanta police motorcycles along with some large vehicles and this does appear to be the beginning of donald trump's motorcade as it is arriving at the fulton county jail

motorcade as it is arriving at the fulton countyjail in atlanta and there's been a very obvious uptick in security and sheriffs officers as well as police and this does look like donald trump is motorcade and you've been hearing the helicopters that have been providing aerial views around us and several vehicles long. there is a press than it been following along and fire rescue medical units along with every emergency vehicle in the book thatis emergency vehicle in the book that is escorting the former president to the fulton county jail were expecting him to be entering the jail which is been put under pretty much a full lockdown for security reasons and secret service in the airspace has been above the jail and there is a good minute long ago and we believe that

the former president would be inside as he makes his way in and looking at the street pretty entered, there is a very long vehicle in this entire street atjefferson street has been closed and before donald trump arrives, no, there were no protesters and no supporters on the side of the jail, there's another entrance and thatis there's another entrance and that is where we know some of the supporters run a0 or 50 have been located, but this is a very high—security situation we do not believe that any members of the public have really been allowed in here for some time. really been allowed in here for some time-— some time. entering the compound _ some time. entering the compound in _ some time. entering the compound in the - some time. entering the . compound in the motorcade marjorie taylor karina was on one of the sites of the county jail where she was forcing her support for the former

president and us that are politically charges and take us through what we are going to see you now. additional reports have been looking into this jail and that the processing is. , , ., ' is. this will be a different process _ is. this will be a different process for _ is. this will be a different process for a _ is. this will be a different process for a former - is. this will be a different - process for a former president versus a petty criminal member of the public would have the misfortune of arriving here at this jail but what we are expecting from donald trump is not that he has entered the premises, he will likely have a room to himself that's not always the case. the processing rooms can hold multiple defendants at once he is likely to be there on his own and that's for security reasons to be surrounded by secret service and he will be processed and that will include fingerprinting and some body measurements and of course, what many people are waiting for us to find out whether or not donald trump with his mug shot taken and every defendant has been through this county

jail is that there mug shot taken and there mug shot will be published and we are former chief of staff today that mug shopping released yesterday and rudy giuliani, one of his former top lawyers also photographed and mug shot and we've even seen one of the defendants use that mug shot as their new twitter profile picture. some clearly using this as a badge of honour. there will be the essential process and the reason why some defendants end up with this and do not do this for many hours, days or even weeks is they have already negotiated the terms of this release. there is a bond already set to $20,000 and some restrictions in place for the former president as well. all of that legal rigmarole is been done and that means once the process is over, you'll be free to go. process is over, you'll be free to no. �* , ., to go. and we understand there was only one —

to go. and we understand there was only one co-defendant - to go. and we understand there was only one co-defendant who was only one co—defendant who had not actually made a bond agreement with authorities which is why he was being held in custody. bringing injohn, he was a law professor in atlanta, is this a surreal experience to see a former president surrendering to authorities? it president surrendering to authorities?— president surrendering to authorities? , . ~ ., authorities? it instruct mentor today and _ authorities? it instruct mentor today and i — authorities? it instruct mentor today and i think _ authorities? it instruct mentor today and i think the - authorities? it instruct mentor today and i think the people . authorities? it instruct mentor| today and i think the people of atlanta — today and i think the people of atlanta turn on the evening news — atlanta turn on the evening news and making its way to a well— known spot and i news and making its way to a well—known spot and i think it may— well—known spot and i think it may have _ well—known spot and i think it may have a major impact on the citizens— may have a major impact on the citizens of— may have a major impact on the citizens of the city and in the case — citizens of the city and in the case going forward, seeing not only— case going forward, seeing not only the — case going forward, seeing not only the president but individuals that we know of in washington and in atlanta as witnesses, defendants, ithink it's going _ witnesses, defendants, ithink it's going to kid home for the historic— it's going to kid home for the historic nature and the surreal nature —

historic nature and the surreal nature of— historic nature and the surreal nature of this —— hit home. talking _ nature of this —— hit home. talking about some of the codefendants, reminders, how many codefendants, what we know who have already surrendered and what are we going to see because there is a deadline for when the codefendants of the surrender by.— surrender by. that is said by the defendant _ surrender by. that is said by the defendant for _ surrender by. that is said by the defendant for friday - surrender by. that is said by l the defendant for friday which is tomorrow around noon. in the jail is open 20 a7 and we have heard officials emphasise this time and time again, defendants can arrive at any hour on any day up until that deadline and we have seen a lot of people coming in during daytime hours and resolve rudy giuliani arriving in the afternoon yesterday and donald trump taking the opportunity to arrive in prime time at 730 in the evening on the east coast here in atlanta. however, we are still sink a few defendants

have not shown up and we believe that the last count, there were around seven who have not checked in or surrendered and many of them are made which would cause a lesser profile defendants in the high—profile ones we have seen for the most part, they're coming in the been checked in at the mug shots taken but for whatever reason, there are still a few who need to trickle and and you may assume that if you wanted to avoid the limelight in the spotlight, you might want to show up after the former president is already arrived in the media circus is gone and you left your cameras on you and you join to come in at midnight, that is a possibility as well. a handful of people out of the 19 have yet to surrender they have to do so by the deadline tomorrow and if they do not, they will then be arrested and forcibly brought here to the jail where they go to the same process. that is not something you would want to have happen if you are

a defendant and we will see what happens but are still six orseven what happens but are still six or seven people that are remaining to surrender and donald trump was on the list of those seven and he is here now. it really does set this investigation apart that the da decided to indict i9 investigation apart that the da decided to indict 19 people that puts us in stark contrast to the federal trial, doesn't it? , , ' ., to the federal trial, doesn't it? , , , ., ., , it? this is different for many reasons but _ it? this is different for many reasons but one _ it? this is different for many reasons but one of - it? this is different for many reasons but one of them, i l reasons but one of them, i think most striking difference is the number of defendants charged here in the number of counts. i think the election and defendants in federal indictment isjust very indictment is just very targeted charges in that case and they decided they needed a strategic decision to discharge one defendant, the former president and the current indictment even though that may change as the case develops in

georgia took a pretty different approach. they had a broad swathe of charges against various defendants including all 19 of the defendants and it complicates things for the fulton county district attorney in terms of logistics and management, certainly. in the fulton county _ management, certainly. in the fulton county jail _ management, certainly. in the fulton county jail in _ management, certainly. in the fulton county jail in atlanta i fulton county jail in atlanta and that is the motorcade that pulled up around ten minutes ago or so for the former president is now surrendered to authorities and the questions asked you to remind us of a mug shot can be made public of the former president and we are making that are to be the case, correct? ~ , ., correct? will be inferred from the sheriff — correct? will be inferred from the sheriff here _ correct? will be inferred from the sheriff here in _ correct? will be inferred from the sheriff here in georgia - correct? will be inferred from the sheriff here in georgia is. the sheriff here in georgia is that— the sheriff here in georgia is that they— the sheriff here in georgia is that they want to treat everyone these defendants the

same _ everyone these defendants the same way that they would treat anybody — same way that they would treat anybody in the criminal case and — anybody in the criminal case and that— anybody in the criminal case and that means going through the exact same procedure is going — the exact same procedure is going to _ the exact same procedure is going to be some accommodations made _ going to be some accommodations made for— going to be some accommodations made for former president, but that mug — made for former president, but that mug shot is likely to be one — that mug shot is likely to be one of— that mug shot is likely to be one of those procedures that they— one of those procedures that they are _ one of those procedures that they are not going to skip on, if we — they are not going to skip on, if we can— they are not going to skip on, if we can see in the past, as of the — if we can see in the past, as of the defendants have come in today— of the defendants have come in today and — of the defendants have come in today and throughout the week preceding mug shots taken for everyone — preceding mug shots taken for everyone surrendered so far. in that— everyone surrendered so far. in that case, — everyone surrendered so far. in that case, we do expect anticipating donald trump will also have that mug shot taken here _ also have that mug shot taken here at— also have that mug shot taken here at the fulton countyjail and published publicly. you have — and published publicly. you have been thinking this might take — have been thinking this might take a — have been thinking this might take a while, few hours but these — take a while, few hours but these mug shots of been coming out fairly— these mug shots of been coming out fairly rapidly within a matter— out fairly rapidly within a matter of hours and once donald trump _ matter of hours and once donald trump is — matter of hours and once donald trump is left, i'm sure many journalists _ trump is left, i'm sure many journalists refreshing that page _ journalists refreshing that page looking for at that mug shot— page looking for at that mug shot and getting ready to publish that. that political influence will be used on

either— influence will be used on either side. if you're a trump supporter. _ either side. if you're a trump supporter, you may find that on a t-shirt — supporter, you may find that on a t-shirt or— supporter, you may find that on a t—shirt or a slogan or a campaign— a t—shirt or a slogan or a campaign to record and maybe as a way— campaign to record and maybe as a way to— campaign to record and maybe as a way to raise money on the trump — a way to raise money on the trump campaign. 0n the other side, _ trump campaign. 0n the other side, this— trump campaign. 0n the other side, this will be potentially viewed _ side, this will be potentially viewed as a form of guilt but everyone _ viewed as a form of guilt but everyone is innocent until proven— everyone is innocent until proven guilty but that image of a former— proven guilty but that image of a former president and a mug shot— a former president and a mug shot is— a former president and a mug shot is a — a former president and a mug shot is a very powerful one and can he — shot is a very powerful one and can be used whether you are a trump — can be used whether you are a trump supporter early donald trump — trump supporter early donald trump critic. gf trump supporter early donald trump critic.— trump critic. of course the former president - trump critic. of course the former president is - trump critic. of course the i former president is innocent until proven guilty and he denies all charges against him and we will see how they'll plead but they are all innocent until proven guilty and coming back and talking about some the codefendants here like rudy giuliani, former mayor of new york, donald trump's personal lawyer after the 2020 election and the chief of staff. looking

at the indictment, how influential of role do you think they played, at least according to the da in this investigation?— according to the da in this investi . ation? , , , investigation? they seem very influential _ investigation? they seem very influential in _ investigation? they seem very influential in this _ investigation? they seem very influential in this process, - influential in this process, including mr meadows and not only georgia but activities outside of the city of georgia ljy outside of the city of georgia by furthering this alleged conspiracy to overturn the election. i think we're likely to see pressure put on them as well in this trial and a lot of focus on their actions. what is our focus on their actions. what is your take _ focus on their actions. what is your take on _ focus on their actions. what is your take on these _ focus on their actions. what is your take on these figures - focus on their actions. what is | your take on these figures into eastman and lawyer for the former president as well in the rudy giuliani, a figure that so many people know the central figure for the sprawling indictment?— figure for the sprawling indictment? �* , ., indictment? i'm envisioning this trial and _ indictment? i'm envisioning this trial and it's _ indictment? i'm envisioning this trial and it's really - this trial and it's really extraordinary but it's going to look— extraordinary but it's going to look like _ extraordinary but it's going to look like because not only to

have — look like because not only to have these incredible prominent figures — have these incredible prominent figures defendant in the case but the — figures defendant in the case but the witnesses that we are expecting will also be very prominent folks. so, i think it is mind—boggling to think of everyone who is involved in this— everyone who is involved in this case _ everyone who is involved in this case either as a defendant or as _ this case either as a defendant or as a — this case either as a defendant or as a witness and it is really. _ or as a witness and it is really, we often use the word unprecedented but the stature of the — unprecedented but the stature of the folks involved in this case — of the folks involved in this case on _ of the folks involved in this case on both sides is really unusual _ case on both sides is really unusual-— case on both sides is really unusual. and there's also a local georgia _ unusual. and there's also a local georgia codefendants| unusual. and there's also a - local georgia codefendants and tell us about that. we local georgia codefendants and tell us about that.— tell us about that. we have the chairman of — tell us about that. we have the chairman of the _ tell us about that. we have the chairman of the georgia - chairman of the georgia republican party as well as former state politicians charged in various roles and other benefit collector or helping to create the slated for collectors and documents and it is going