in history as one of the most famous images in the world. and i was fascinated that donald trump e—mailed that image to all of his followers immediately after it was taken. what has taken place here is a travesty ofjustice. we did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong, and everybody knows it. i've never had such support. the mugshot might be particularly effective at driving _ home his campaign message, which is that he is a victim - of the washington establishment, he's a political martyr— and he will never surrender. there have been millions of photographs taken of american presidents. never one like this. the mugshot of donald trump already one of the iconic images of our time, for a president that now has his own prison number. what does it tell us?

we will get the thoughts tonight of our panel, democratic strategist ameisha cross and tom peck, the political sketch writer for the independent. in new york state, the democratic governor breaks ranks, blaming the white house for a migrant crisis in her cities. plenty of crossover with the debate here in the uk. also tonight, a black box has been recovered from the plane crash that we assume killed the wagner boss yevgeny prighozin. the kremlin said today they are not responsible. good evening. donald trump is the only us president to have ever posed for a mugshot, an image that becomes instantly iconic. in short order, he had posted it on x, the site formerly known as twitter, with the words, "election interference. never surrender!" which is, of course, richly ironic given that he has now surrendered to the authorities in four differentjurisdictions. what has taken place here is a travesty ofjustice. we did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong, and everybody knows it.

i've never had such support. mr trump and his advisers will have given plenty of thought to this image and what it represents. it is brooding, it is defiant, it is uncompromising — everything we have come to associate with the 45th president. and since it became public, many of his supporters have begun photoshopping themselves into mugshots, maga mugshots, like the georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. mr trump has always tried to write his own narrative, but by lunchtime today, all 19 of defendents in this trial had been processed. and that narrative will now be written in court, with the suggestion the trial might not be that far away. one of the co—defendants, kenneth chesebro, requested this week that it be brought forward to october 23rd, just 59 days away, and the district attorney has called his bluff. she says she is ready and would seek to prosecute all 19 defendants on that day.

earlier i got analysis from an attorney in visiting executive at the tuck school of business on why polls go to keep going donald trump's way despite the court case. it's interesting that as we expected, two very polarised responses to this mugshot and as you said, the first american president to ever have a criminal mugshot. one group is saying he's a criminal, it's about time he was treated like a criminal and there is a mugshot that shows he's a criminal and no one is above the law. there is another group that says he is a victim of political persecution and as mentioned, he's already

using his mugshot on social media and he is claiming election interference, which some commentators are saying is a bit ironic since he is being criminally indicted for election interference. he's raising money, as he has done with his previous and that raises an interesting question. why is that? if the facts as presented are accurate, and court after court after court has shown that the facts that he and his teams have presented are incorrect, why do people still follow him? there is a very interesting article recently asking that question, and the answer that they came up with was that donald trump is more trusted by people than their family members and their religious leaders. so many are calling this basically the different kind of religious cult in that they are following him even though the facts indicate that he has in fact committed crimes. there are many people who are fans of the current president, joe biden, who recently responded. henge of the current president, joe biden, who recently responded.— who recently responded. have you seen et?

who recently responded. have you seen yet? i _ who recently responded. have you seen yet? i have... _ who recently responded. have you seen yet? i have... we _ who recently responded. have you seen yet? i have... we have - who recently responded. have you seen yet? i have... we have a - seen yet? i have... we have a photographer with _ seen yet? i have... we have a photographer with us - seen yet? i have... we have a i photographer with us tonight, . .. joining us tonightjake olson, a photographer based in columbus, ohio, and also here, the author of the crystal ball and director of the center of politics at the university of virginia, larry sabato. let me start with you, jake. if i were to sit down for eight mugshot, how what i do it? and is this the way to do it?— how what i do it? and is this the way to do it? yeah, i actually think i mentioned _ way to do it? yeah, i actually think i mentioned to _ way to do it? yeah, i actually think i mentioned to the _ way to do it? yeah, i actually think i mentioned to the someone - i mentioned to the someone previously today, i said that if i were trying to stage a poorly done but mugshot, i would tell my subject to do exactly what donald trump and his associates were doing in these photos. they are just across the board, a challenging shot. what photos. they are just across the board, a challenging shot. what do ou mean board, a challenging shot. what do you mean challenging? _ board, a challenging shot. what do you mean challenging? in - board, a challenging shot. what do you mean challenging? in that - board, a challenging shot. what do you mean challenging? in that its l you mean challenging? in that its aggressive, too aggressive? yeah, i think technically _ aggressive, too aggressive? yeah, i think technically it's _ aggressive, too aggressive? yeah, i think technically it's just _ aggressive, too aggressive? yeah, i think technically it's just kind - aggressive, too aggressive? yeah, i think technically it's just kind of - think technically it's just kind of off, right? anybody looking at it can kind of see it's really low

resolution, the lighting is i would say almost a little bit offensive. it's really right from the top corner of the frame. and then even the way that they are all kind of eyeing up the camera in different ways. obviously donald trump knew what he was doing when he glared down the camera. he knew how his followers respond to that, but i think across the board, i called it the perfect storm of bad mugshots there across the board, just a little bit rough. the there across the board, 'ust a little bit rough.�* there across the board, 'ust a little bit rough. the perfect storm of bad mugshots. _ little bit rough. the perfect storm of bad mugshots. not _ little bit rough. the perfect storm of bad mugshots. not all- little bit rough. the perfect storm of bad mugshots. not all of- little bit rough. the perfect storm of bad mugshots. not all of them| little bit rough. the perfect storm . of bad mugshots. not all of them did it the way he did it. let's put up some of the other codefendants. we have jenna ellis some of the other codefendants. we havejenna ellis here, one of the codefendants. now that is a lovely smile. ifeel codefendants. now that is a lovely smile. i feel sympathetic to codefendants. now that is a lovely smile. ifeel sympathetic to her and i might even let her off, i don't know, if i was the judge. that's clearly someone who is approachable. is that not a better way to do it? i think that might be one way to go about it. you look at celebrities

that have been in similar situations like even justin that have been in similar situations like evenjustin bieber comes to mind right away, he is get this really nice smile and his mug shot. i think maybe it's a little bit different in the clinical scene, but you can definitely see where she got some visual references from celebrities in the past. yeah, tom, do ou celebrities in the past. yeah, tom, do you have _ celebrities in the past. yeah, tom, do you have a _ celebrities in the past. yeah, tom, do you have a favourite _ celebrities in the past. yeah, tom, do you have a favourite mugshot i celebrities in the past. yeah, tom, | do you have a favourite mugshot to the ages? do you have a favourite mugshot to the aces? ,, do you have a favourite mugshot to theaaes? ,, ,~ the ages? goodness me, they are uuite the ages? goodness me, they are quite rare- — the ages? goodness me, they are quite me i _ the ages? goodness me, they are quite rare. i cannot— the ages? goodness me, they are quite rare. i cannot think - the ages? goodness me, they are quite rare. i cannot think of - the ages? goodness me, they are quite rare. i cannot think of one . quite rare. i cannot think of one that compares to this. there was one of you _ that compares to this. there was one of you grant — that compares to this. there was one of you grant... we that compares to this. there was one of you grant- - -_ of you grant... we 'ust had hugh grant, of you grant... we 'ust had hugh grant. let-sh of you grant... we 'ust had hugh grant, let's even — of you grant... we just had hugh grant, let's even get _ of you grant... we just had hugh grant, let's even get that - of you grant... we just had hugh grant, let's even get that one . grant, let's even get that one back. what do you like about that when? i must say myjob is no to make light of politics— must say myjob is no to make light of politics and i have been quite a surprise _ of politics and i have been quite a surprise to— of politics and i have been quite a surprise to the reaction to this picture — surprise to the reaction to this picture because i don't see much like any— picture because i don't see much like any at — picture because i don't see much like any at all. i don't get why the analysis— like any at all. i don't get why the analysis of— like any at all. i don't get why the analysis of donald trump ever strays beyond the _ analysis of donald trump ever strays beyond the obvious which is he has had his— beyond the obvious which is he has had his picture taken by the police because _ had his picture taken by the police because he tried to overthrow democracy in america. and i don't use this _ democracy in america. and i don't use this word lightly or incorrectly or inaccurately because he is a straight — or inaccurately because he is a straight up fascist and i don't

really— straight up fascist and i don't really get why there is a sort of fun debate about his picture and all the other— fun debate about his picture and all the other pictures. it's quite serious _ the other pictures. it's quite serious i_ the other pictures. it's quite serious. i don't really get how america — serious. i don't really get how america heals itself unless that is a clearly _ america heals itself unless that is a clearly established fact. interesting point, larry, for indictments, 91 criminal charges. if this was a russian roulette, he loaded just about every single chamber. can you get through this without a conviction? i chamber. can you get through this without a conviction?— without a conviction? i doubt it. the key for _ without a conviction? i doubt it. the key for him _ without a conviction? i doubt it. the key for him is _ without a conviction? i doubt it. the key for him is delay - without a conviction? i doubt it. the key for him is delay the - without a conviction? i doubt it. | the key for him is delay the trial. he has— the key for him is delay the trial. he has got— the key for him is delay the trial. he has got a _ the key for him is delay the trial. he has got a lot _ the key for him is delay the trial. he has got a lot of— the key for him is delay the trial. he has got a lot of experience . the key for him is delay the trial. i he has got a lot of experience with that, _ he has got a lot of experience with that, some — he has got a lot of experience with that, some of— he has got a lot of experience with that, some of his— he has got a lot of experience with that, some of his lawyers. - he has got a lot of experience with that, some of his lawyers. he - he has got a lot of experience with that, some of his lawyers. he hasl that, some of his lawyers. he has been _ that, some of his lawyers. he has been through— that, some of his lawyers. he has been through this _ that, some of his lawyers. he has been through this his _ that, some of his lawyers. he has been through this his entire - that, some of his lawyers. he has been through this his entire life, i been through this his entire life, lon- been through this his entire life, long before _ been through this his entire life, long before politics, _ been through this his entire life, long before politics, so- been through this his entire life, long before politics, so as - been through this his entire life, long before politics, so as long i been through this his entire life, i long before politics, so as long as he can— long before politics, so as long as he can get— long before politics, so as long as he can get these _ long before politics, so as long as he can get these trials _ long before politics, so as long as he can get these trials delayed, . he can get these trials delayed, certainly— he can get these trials delayed, certainly until— he can get these trials delayed, certainly until after— he can get these trials delayed, certainly until after the - he can get these trials delayed, i certainly until after the republican convention — certainly until after the republican convention next _ certainly until after the republican convention next summer, - certainly until after the republican convention next summer, and - convention next summer, and preferably— convention next summer, and preferably for _ convention next summer, and preferably for him _ convention next summer, and preferably for him after - convention next summer, and preferably for him after the i convention next summer, and - preferably for him after the general election. _ preferably for him after the general election. it's— preferably for him after the general election, it's not _ preferably for him after the general election, it's not going _ preferably for him after the general election, it's not going to _ preferably for him after the general election, it's not going to have as l election, it's not going to have as great _ election, it's not going to have as great an— election, it's not going to have as great an effect _ election, it's not going to have as great an effect people _ election, it's not going to have as great an effect people think. - election, it's not going to have as great an effect people think. it i great an effect people think. it will have — great an effect people think. it will have more _ great an effect people think. it will have more effect - great an effect people think. it will have more effect in- great an effect people think. it will have more effect in the - great an effect people think. it - will have more effect in the general election when — will have more effect in the general election when democrats _ will have more effect in the general election when democrats and - will have more effect in the general election when democrats and are l election when democrats and are taking _ election when democrats and are taking part — election when democrats and are taking part and _ election when democrats and are taking part and it— election when democrats and are taking part and it actually- election when democrats and are taking part and it actually helps l taking part and it actually helps and has —

taking part and it actually helps and has helped _ taking part and it actually helps and has helped him _ taking part and it actually helps and has helped him over- taking part and it actually helps and has helped him over and i taking part and it actually helps . and has helped him over and over and over again _ and has helped him over and over and over again in — and has helped him over and over and over again in the _ and has helped him over and over and over again in the republican- and has helped him over and over and over again in the republican party. i over again in the republican party. he took— over again in the republican party. he took that — over again in the republican party. he took that angry— over again in the republican party. he took that angry photo, - over again in the republican party. he took that angry photo, and - over again in the republican party. he took that angry photo, and it i over again in the republican party. he took that angry photo, and it is| he took that angry photo, and it is angry, _ he took that angry photo, and it is angry, because _ he took that angry photo, and it is angry, because his— he took that angry photo, and it is angry, because his base _ he took that angry photo, and it is angry, because his base is - he took that angry photo, and it is angry, because his base is angry. l angry, because his base is angry. they— angry, because his base is angry. they are — angry, because his base is angry. they are aggrieved. _ angry, because his base is angry. they are aggrieved. he _ angry, because his base is angry. they are aggrieved. he looks - they are aggrieved. he looks persecuted _ they are aggrieved. he looks persecuted. they— they are aggrieved. he looks persecuted. they feel- they are aggrieved. he looks - persecuted. they feel persecuted. and he _ persecuted. they feel persecuted. and he is— persecuted. they feel persecuted. and he is making _ persecuted. they feel persecuted. and he is making money- persecuted. they feel persecuted. and he is making money hand - persecuted. they feel persecuted. | and he is making money hand over fist. and he is making money hand over fist~ he _ and he is making money hand over fist~ he is— and he is making money hand over fist. he is already _ and he is making money hand over fist. he is already slapped - and he is making money hand over fist. he is already slapped the - fist. he is already slapped the mugshot— fist. he is already slapped the mugshot on— fist. he is already slapped the mugshot on mugs _ fist. he is already slapped the mugshot on mugs and - fist. he is already slapped thei mugshot on mugs and t—shirts fist. he is already slapped the - mugshot on mugs and t—shirts and everything — mugshot on mugs and t—shirts and everything you _ mugshot on mugs and t—shirts and everything you can _ mugshot on mugs and t—shirts and everything you can think— mugshot on mugs and t—shirts and everything you can think of, - mugshot on mugs and t—shirts andj everything you can think of, selling them _ everything you can think of, selling them at _ everything you can think of, selling them at grand _ everything you can think of, selling them at grand prices. _ everything you can think of, selling them at grand prices. [5— everything you can think of, selling them at grand prices.— them at grand prices. is this the roblem, them at grand prices. is this the problem. as _ them at grand prices. is this the problem, as tom _ them at grand prices. is this the problem, as tom says, - them at grand prices. is this the problem, as tom says, that - them at grand prices. is this the problem, as tom says, that in l them at grand prices. is this the - problem, as tom says, that in some ways clearly... look at what has happened this week. we have had eight republican candidates on stage what we are focusing on is not policy, what is important to americans at home. we are focusing on a guy who has trivialised what many people believe was treason. and maybe the media does play a part in that, like tom says. hat maybe the media does play a part in that, like tom says.— that, like tom says. not a question. the media not _ that, like tom says. not a question. the media not only _ that, like tom says. not a question. the media not only plays _ that, like tom says. not a question. the media not only plays a - that, like tom says. not a question. the media not only plays a part - that, like tom says. not a question. the media not only plays a part in i the media not only plays a part in it, the media if the remaster of

this circus. donald trump has spent an entire lifetime basically corralling media and getting into follow and watch his every move. he pays attention to ratings and does what his name from the banner people are going to watch. enough people care about him missing that debate and most recent republican primary debates and he will actually instead of showing up, he knows it within 2a hours after that debate, he got the news in prime time because he scheduled his arrest. he scheduled his fingerprinting, scheduled his mugshot for 7:30pm on purpose to be able to coax right into the prime time news cycle. that was huge. and now everybody is talking about him and not about the actual republican contenders who gave some pretty weighty policy discussions when they were on the stage just two days ago. i think donald trump no set to play the media and the media falls for every single time, whether it's in the us or internationally. this guy has showcased his criminality and they should not be a conversation of lighting when we talk about the

mugshot. nobody has great lighting in a mugshot cam is not a photo session. this is literally a test of criminality and i think at this point, donald trump wanted his mugshot ticket because he wanted to do exactly what he has done, use it as a fund—raising tool. plaster it across of the media, joining twitter again last night and the first thing he introduced was that mug shot. this is the strategy for donald trump because represent —— recognises them and having times he is indicted or any times he is impeached or has been impeached, his base continue to grow. that base will never leave that man in the republican party won't either judging by the polls we are currently sitting. he is 35 or a0 percentage point above everyone else in that field. they love the man on the right. in that field. they love the man on the riuht. , ., .~, the right. the thing is though, jay, this is a short-term _ the right. the thing is though, jay, this is a short-term strategy - the right. the thing is though, jay, this is a short-term strategy if - the right. the thing is though, jay, this is a short-term strategy if he l this is a short—term strategy if he makes money off and can control the narrative of it, but as we just put on screen, mug shots through the ages and how ever successfully people have all been, they are associated with that photograph and

will forever be associated with that photograph and that's the point. that's why every news outlet across the world has covered the story today. jake. the world has covered the story today- jake-— the world has covered the story today. jake. sorry, i missed you there. today. jake. sorry, i missed you there- no. _ today. jake. sorry, i missed you there- no. i— today. jake. sorry, i missed you there. no, i completely- today. jake. sorry, i missed you there. no, i completely agree. | today. jake. sorry, i missed you there. no, i completely agree. i today. jake. sorry, i missed you - there. no, i completely agree. iwas actually~~~ _ there. no, i completely agree. iwas actually~~~ i— there. no, i completely agree. iwas actually... i think a lot of mugshots when it comes to celebrities, represents this certain time in _ celebrities, represents this certain time in their life. and while, yeah, maybe _ time in their life. and while, yeah, maybe the — time in their life. and while, yeah, maybe the conversation about lighting — maybe the conversation about lighting is as important in the conversation going on surrounding why is— conversation going on surrounding why is having his mugshot taken... in why is having his mugshot taken... in the _ why is having his mugshot taken... in the first — why is having his mugshot taken... in the first place... why is having his mugshot taken... in the first place. . ._ in the first place... sorry, we are just actually _ in the first place... sorry, we are just actually losing _ in the first place. .. sorry, we are just actually losing your- in the first place... sorry, we are just actually losing your line - in the first place... sorry, we are just actually losing your line and | just actually losing your line and we will try and reason was that while we talk. larry, the judge we will try and reason was that while we talk. larry, thejudge is now going to have to figure out both the right to a speedy trial as well as everyone else's wright including donald trump to prepare. what did you make of the intervention in this

yesterday by kenneth chesebro by going to trial on october 23 and i'm sure try to call the prosecutorial bluff but she is ready. although however long he delays it, that comes before the country goes to the polls next november.— polls next november. well, he is not auoin to polls next november. well, he is not going to determine _ polls next november. well, he is not going to determine when _ polls next november. well, he is not going to determine when all - polls next november. well, he is not going to determine when all of - polls next november. well, he is not going to determine when all of these j going to determine when all of these indicted _ going to determine when all of these indicted people — going to determine when all of these indicted people go— going to determine when all of these indicted people go to _ going to determine when all of these indicted people go to trial. _ going to determine when all of these indicted people go to trial. it's - indicted people go to trial. it's not going _ indicted people go to trial. it's not going to _ indicted people go to trial. it's not going to happen— indicted people go to trial. it's not going to happen on- indicted people go to trial. it'si not going to happen on october 23 and if somehow the _ not going to happen on october 23 and if somehow the proceedings i not going to happen on october 23- and if somehow the proceedings begin then, it _ and if somehow the proceedings begin then, it will— and if somehow the proceedings begin then, it will simply _ and if somehow the proceedings begin then, it will simply be _ and if somehow the proceedings begin then, it will simply be stretched - then, it will simply be stretched out for— then, it will simply be stretched out for months _ then, it will simply be stretched out for months and _ then, it will simply be stretched out for months and months - then, it will simply be stretched out for months and months and | out for months and months and months — out for months and months and months so— out for months and months and months so i_ out for months and months and months. so i don't— out for months and months and months. so i don't think... - out for months and months and months. so i don't think... i- out for months and months and i months. so i don't think... i think is a gamble — months. so i don't think... i think is a gamble on— months. so i don't think... i think is a gamble on chesebro's- months. so i don't think... i think is a gamble on chesebro's bluff. months. so i don't think... i think. is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is probably— is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is probably calling _ is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is probably calling the _ is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is probably calling the bluff - is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is probably calling the bluff of - is a gamble on chesebro's bluff and is probably calling the bluff of the l is probably calling the bluff of the prosecutor — is probably calling the bluff of the prosecutor but _ is probably calling the bluff of the prosecutor but everyone - is probably calling the bluff of the prosecutor but everyone is - prosecutor but everyone is interested _ prosecutor but everyone is interested in _ prosecutor but everyone is interested in donald - prosecutor but everyone is| interested in donald trump prosecutor but everyone is - interested in donald trump mainly. yes, interested in donald trump mainly. yes. the _ interested in donald trump mainly. yes. the other— interested in donald trump mainly. yes, the other ones— interested in donald trump mainly. yes, the other ones are _ interested in donald trump mainly. yes, the other ones are interestingj yes, the other ones are interesting and certainly— yes, the other ones are interesting and certainly rudy _ yes, the other ones are interesting and certainly rudy giuliani - yes, the other ones are interesting and certainly rudy giuliani it- yes, the other ones are interesting and certainly rudy giuliani it will. and certainly rudy giuliani it will be right— and certainly rudy giuliani it will be right below— and certainly rudy giuliani it will be right below donald _ and certainly rudy giuliani it will be right below donald trump - and certainly rudy giuliani it will| be right below donald trump but and certainly rudy giuliani it will- be right below donald trump but the other ones— be right below donald trump but the other ones much— be right below donald trump but the other ones much less _ be right below donald trump but the other ones much less so. _ be right below donald trump but the other ones much less so. they- other ones much less so. they are part of— other ones much less so. they are part of the — other ones much less so. they are part of the storm _ other ones much less so. they are part of the storm that _ other ones much less so. they are part of the storm that is, - 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really important _ will be watching. look, what is really important here - will be watching. look, what is really important here is- will be watching. look, what is really important here is what i will be watching. look, what is. really important here is what one will be watching. look, what is- really important here is what one of your other— really important here is what one of your other guests _ really important here is what one of your other guests correctly - your other guests correctly mentioned _ your other guests correctly mentioned. this _ your other guests correctly mentioned. this is- your other guests correctly mentioned. this is the - your other guests correctly| mentioned. this is the first president— mentioned. this is the first president in— mentioned. this is the first president in american - mentioned. this is the first i president in american history mentioned. this is the first - president in american history who has tried — president in american history who has tried to — president in american history who has tried to destroy— president in american history who has tried to destroy the _ president in american history who has tried to destroy the american| has tried to destroy the american republic — has tried to destroy the american republic he _ has tried to destroy the american republic. he was _ has tried to destroy the american republic. he was trying - has tried to destroy the american republic. he was trying to - has tried to destroy the american republic. he was trying to deny. has tried to destroy the american i republic. he was trying to deny the peaceful— republic. he was trying to deny the peaceful transfer _ republic. he was trying to deny the peaceful transfer of _ republic. he was trying to deny the peaceful transfer of power. - republic. he was trying to deny the peaceful transfer of power. he - republic. he was trying to deny the peaceful transfer of power. he was| peaceful transfer of power. he was trying _ peaceful transfer of power. he was trying to _ peaceful transfer of power. he was trying to steal— peaceful transfer of power. he was trying to steal a _ peaceful transfer of power. he was trying to steal a four—year- peaceful transfer of power. he was trying to steal a four—year term. i trying to steal a four—year term. and if— trying to steal a four—year term. and if things _ trying to steal a four—year term. and if things had _ trying to steal a four—year term. and if things had gone - trying to steal a four—year term. and if things had gone a - trying to steal a four—year term. and if things had gone a little i and if things had gone a little differently _ and if things had gone a little differently on _ and if things had gone a little differently onjanuary- and if things had gone a little differently on january six, - and if things had gone a little differently on january six, he i differently on january six, he might have succeeded _ differently on january six, he might have succeeded in _ differently on january six, he might have succeeded in doing _ differently on january six, he might have succeeded in doing so. - differently on january six, he might have succeeded in doing so. it - differently on january six, he might have succeeded in doing so. it is i have succeeded in doing so. it is incredible — have succeeded in doing so. it is incredible that _ have succeeded in doing so. it is incredible that he _ have succeeded in doing so. it is incredible that he is _ have succeeded in doing so. it is incredible that he is back, - have succeeded in doing so. it is incredible that he is back, that i have succeeded in doing so. it isi incredible that he is back, that he is the _ incredible that he is back, that he is the runaway _ incredible that he is back, that he is the runaway front _ incredible that he is back, that he is the runaway front runner- incredible that he is back, that he is the runaway front runner in - is the runaway front runner in the republican— is the runaway front runner in the republican primaries. _ is the runaway front runner in the republican primaries. this - is the runaway front runner in the . republican primaries. this suggests something _ republican primaries. this suggests something deeply— republican primaries. this suggests something deeply wrong _ republican primaries. this suggests something deeply wrong in - republican primaries. this suggestsl something deeply wrong in america, deeply— something deeply wrong in america, deeply wrong — something deeply wrong in america, deeply wrong-— deeply wrong. what do you put that down to, deeply wrong. what do you put that down to. tom? _ deeply wrong. what do you put that down to, tom? clearly _ deeply wrong. what do you put that down to, tom? clearly there - deeply wrong. what do you put that down to, tom? clearly there is - down to, tom? clearly there is a feeling in a large part of republican society that if he is being prosecuted, it must be because there is something wrong with the federal government and government in washington. what does that say about

american democracy? i washington. what does that say about american democracy?— american democracy? i don't live in american democracy? i don't live in america any — american democracy? i don't live in america any more. _ american democracy? i don't live in america any more. i _ american democracy? i don't live in america any more. i defer - american democracy? i don't live in america any more. i defer to - american democracy? i don't live in america any more. i defer to those| america any more. i defer to those who do, but the republican party has i think once won the popular vote this century, in 200a with george w bush. i think they are part of the american people by and large are turning their back on. and they are like the conservative party in this country, their core belief is to have an appetite for power. they want to be empowered by any means necessary really and i think what is being seen is the degree to which they do believe in any means necessary. again, i have a degree in little science don't use the war without underselling what it means what if the republic and party chooses to embrace fascism for the sake of its own survival, then i think it will be found on both counts because it won't survive and it will have destroyed itself and it will be shown very, very clear, precisely what it is. and i am surprised that they have allowed themselves to be taken over by donald trump and i am not —— are not

doing more to resent it —— prevent it. doing more to resent it -- prevent it. ., ., ., , ., doing more to resent it -- prevent it. you had on stage the tuesday niuht it. you had on stage the tuesday ni . ht the it. you had on stage the tuesday night the question _ it. you had on stage the tuesday night the question from - it. you had on stage the tuesday night the question from the - night the question from the moderator to the field was if he is convicted, would you pardon him? and six of those eight candidates said yes. and i asked larry the other day, i said yes. and i asked larry the other day, isaid how yes. and i asked larry the other day, i said how do they expect to become the nominee for the publican party if they are not going to use 91 indictments, for charges to go after the man who is the front runner? . . , after the man who is the front runner?- l _ after the man who is the front runner?- i was - after the man who is the front runner?- i was going i after the man who is the frontl runner?- i was going to after the man who is the front - runner?- i was going to say runner? exactly. i was going to say absolutely- — runner? exactly. i was going to say absolutely. the _ runner? exactly. i was going to say absolutely. the frustration - runner? exactly. i was going to say absolutely. the frustration here . runner? exactly. i was going to say absolutely. the frustration here is | absolutely. the frustration here is the party is unyielding when it comes to the former president. this is a man who ran on white grievance politics, he ran on anti—semitism, he rants on anti—blackness and anti—civil rights, anti—lgbt. he is not a climate change believer. he is someone who expresses review theories. the republican party base is old white males and continues to

get smaller as that generation dies off by 20a5 in the us, the majority off by 20a5 in the us, the majority of this country would no longer be white. it will be brown people and people of immigrant dissent. it is where we will be. and was that being sick there has to be an understanding amongst replicas and unless you broaden your base, you are going to consistently lose. your appeal is not to everyone else donald trump is actually popular amongst republicans who are currently in that base. but that slice of the american pipe is getting smaller and smaller. and they are unwilling to change and instead of changing, they want to steal elections, they want to squash the voting rights act and make sure they can keep people of colour and people who were younger and women away from polls. they want to make sure they are in permitting the strategies and policies that stop the people who are demanding change from having access to the ballot. it is an affront to everything our democracy stands for and donald trump has stood as a cult leader. he is a cult leader to say anything and everything to his base and nothing will stop them from believing him.

and i think that is dangerous for our two party system and data for the republican party moreover but dangerous for the nation because donald trump and elected once. and there are people in that party who are watching the things that he did and if it's not him and when it's not hammond 12a, which god prays it would likely will not be, there will be someone in the next few years he will take these same strategies the former president trump has had and they will utilise those policies and try this again. america and democracy is on the brink and i think it's very important that we recognise how teeming it happens to be because we cannot have it argosy thatis be because we cannot have it argosy that is a shining light for the rest of the world when we cannot get under control what democracy means right here. under control what democracy means riaht here. , ., ., ., right here. they are all valid oints, right here. they are all valid points. larry. _ right here. they are all valid points, larry, that _ right here. they are all valid points, larry, that she - right here. they are all valid l points, larry, that she makes right here. they are all valid - points, larry, that she makes and there is a lot to go out there, but realistically, the one decision the republicans have to make right now is the truth or lies, right or wrong. and it seems to me that they have a very big difficulty moving away from a man who is going to

appear in court four times over the next year. is there really coming back to what we have talked about through the january the 6th committee hearing, and that is what happens when donald trump was out of the picture? what is that leave the republican party?— the picture? what is that leave the republican party? unfortunately the reublican republican party? unfortunately the republican party _ republican party? unfortunately the republican party has _ republican party? unfortunately the republican party has been _ republican party? unfortunately the republican party has been drifting i republican party has been drifting further— republican party has been drifting further and — republican party has been drifting further and further— republican party has been drifting further and further to— republican party has been drifting further and further to the - republican party has been drifting further and further to the right - further and further to the right since _ further and further to the right since at — further and further to the right since at least _ further and further to the right since at least the _ further and further to the right since at least the 1980s. - further and further to the right since at least the 1980s. and i further and further to the right i since at least the 1980s. and it's accelerated _ since at least the 1980s. and it's accelerated in _ since at least the 1980s. and it's accelerated in recent— since at least the 1980s. and it's accelerated in recent years. - since at least the 1980s. and it'si accelerated in recent years. again one of— accelerated in recent years. again one of her— accelerated in recent years. again one of her other— accelerated in recent years. again one of her other panelist - accelerated in recent years. againj one of her other panelist correctly noted _ one of her other panelist correctly noted that — one of her other panelist correctly noted that the _ one of her other panelist correctly noted that the republicans - one of her other panelist correctly noted that the republicans have l one of her other panelist correctly i noted that the republicans have only won the _ noted that the republicans have only won the popular— noted that the republicans have only won the popular vote _ noted that the republicans have only won the popular vote in _ noted that the republicans have only won the popular vote in this - noted that the republicans have only won the popular vote in this entry . won the popular vote in this entry once, _ won the popular vote in this entry once, in— won the popular vote in this entry once, in 2004 _ won the popular vote in this entry once, in 2004. of— won the popular vote in this entry once, in 2004. of the _ won the popular vote in this entry once, in 2004. of the record - won the popular vote in this entry once, in 2004. of the record is. once, in 2004. of the record is actually— once, in 2004. of the record is actually worse. _ once, in 2004. of the record is actually worse. they _ once, in 2004. of the record is actually worse. they have - once, in 2004. of the record is actually worse. they have not i once, in 2004. of the record is. actually worse. they have not won the popular— actually worse. they have not won the popular vote _ actually worse. they have not won the popular vote but— actually worse. they have not won the popular vote but that - actually worse. they have not won the popular vote but that one - actually worse. they have not wonj the popular vote but that one time since _ the popular vote but that one time since and — the popular vote but that one time since and including _ the popular vote but that one time since and including 1992 _ the popular vote but that one time since and including 1992 over- the popular vote but that one time since and including 1992 over 30 i since and including 1992 over 30 years _ since and including 1992 over 30 years they— since and including 1992 over 30 years they have _ since and including 1992 over 30 years. they have not _ since and including 1992 over 30 years. they have not won - since and including 1992 over 30 years. they have not won the i since and including 1992 over 30 - years. they have not won the popular vote but— years. they have not won the popular vote but i_ years. they have not won the popular vote but i will— years. they have not won the popular vote but i will tell— years. they have not won the popular vote but i will tell you _ years. they have not won the popular vote but i will tell you what _ years. they have not won the popular vote but i will tell you what they - vote but i will tell you what they do win, — vote but i will tell you what they do win, quite— vote but i will tell you what they do win, quite often, _ vote but i will tell you what they do win, quite often, the - vote but i will tell you what theyi do win, quite often, the electoral college. — do win, quite often, the electoral college. which _ do win, quite often, the electoral college, which is _ do win, quite often, the electoral college, which is archaic, - do win, quite often, the electoral college, which is archaic, which l do win, quite often, the electoral. college, which is archaic, which has been _ college, which is archaic, which has been left _ college, which is archaic, which has been left he — college, which is archaic, which has been left he was _ college, which is archaic, which has been left he was by— college, which is archaic, which has been left he was by the _ college, which is archaic, which has been left he was by the much - college, which is archaic, which has i been left he was by the much vaunted founding _ been left he was by the much vaunted founding fathers _ been left he was by the much vaunted founding fathers who _ been left he was by the much vaunted founding fathers who designed - been left he was by the much vaunted founding fathers who designed the - founding fathers who designed the system _ founding fathers who designed the system that— founding fathers who designed the system that worked _ founding fathers who designed the

system that worked for— founding fathers who designed the system that worked for the - founding fathers who designed the system that worked for the 1790si founding fathers who designed the i system that worked for the 1790s and does not _ system that worked for the 1790s and does not work— system that worked for the 1790s and does not work in _ system that worked for the 1790s and does not work in the _ system that worked for the 1790s and does not work in the 21st _ system that worked for the 1790s and does not work in the 21st century. - does not work in the 21st century. it is does not work in the 21st century. it is producing _ does not work in the 21st century. it is producing my— does not work in the 21st century. it is producing my presidents - it is producing my presidents generally— it is producing my presidents generally republicans- it is producing my presidents generally republicans on - it is producing my presidents generally republicans on thej it is producing my presidents - generally republicans on the right win- generally republicans on the right wing and — generally republicans on the right wing and if— generally republicans on the right wing and if it— generally republicans on the right wing and if it is— generally republicans on the right wing and if it is not— generally republicans on the right wing and if it is not donald - generally republicans on the right| wing and if it is not donald trump, it will— wing and if it is not donald trump, it will be _ wing and if it is not donald trump, it will be another— wing and if it is not donald trump, it will be another republican - wing and if it is not donald trump, it will be another republican who i it will be another republican who has many— it will be another republican who has many of— it will be another republican who has many of his— it will be another republican who has many of his pseudo— - it will be another republican who| has many of his pseudo— populist positions — has many of his pseudo— populist positions it— has many of his pseudo— populist positions it is— has many of his pseudo— populist positions. it is not— has many of his pseudo— populist positions. it is not where - has many of his pseudo— populist| positions. it is not where america is, not _ positions. it is not where america is, not where _ positions. it is not where america is, not where america _ positions. it is not where america is, not where america should - positions. it is not where america is, not where america should be, | positions. it is not where america - is, not where america should be, but it's where _ is, not where america should be, but it's where america _ is, not where america should be, but it's where america is _ is, not where america should be, but it's where america is going _ is, not where america should be, but it's where america is going to - is, not where america should be, but it's where america is going to be - it's where america is going to be stuck— it's where america is going to be stuck if— it's where america is going to be stuck if we — it's where america is going to be stuck if we don't _ it's where america is going to be stuck if we don't change - it's where america is going to be stuck if we don't change some i it's where america is going to be stuck if we don't change some of it's where america is going to be - stuck if we don't change some of our basic— stuck if we don't change some of our basic institutions _ stuck if we don't change some of our basic institutions and _ stuck if we don't change some of our basic institutions and there - stuck if we don't change some of our basic institutions and there is - basic institutions and there is not much _ basic institutions and there is not much chance _ basic institutions and there is not much chance of— basic institutions and there is not much chance of that. _ basic institutions and there is not much chance of that. a _ basic institutions and there is not much chance of that. a photo tells a thousand words _ much chance of that. a photo tells a thousand words but _ much chance of that. a photo tells a thousand words but i _ much chance of that. a photo tells a thousand words but i did _ much chance of that. a photo tells a thousand words but i did not - much chance of that. a photo tells a thousand words but i did not know l thousand words but i did not know they can stir such debate. larry, jake, thank you very much for your time this evening. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the head of nhs england, amanda pritchard, has written to health leaders calling for a meeting next week to consider regulation of managers in the wake of revelations since the lucy letby trial. the letter says final decisions will be made by government, but this is the right time to look at the benefits of regulation. the director of the british museum, hartwig fischer, will

step down from his role following a controversy about stolen treasure. he said the museum did not respond as it should have when it was told about the thefts in 2021. last week, it was announced that a member of staff had been sacked after items were reported "missing, stolen or damaged". a drink—driver who killed a charity cyclist and then hid his body in a shallow grave on a remote scottish estate has been sentenced to 12 years in prison. alexander mckellar was speeding when he hit 63—year—old tony parsons and left him to die on the a82 in 2017. mckellar and his twin brother, robert, later hid mr parsons' body. his remains were not found for three years. you're live with bbc news. the governor of new york state, kathy hochul, has criticised president biden for his failure to get a grip of the migrant crisis in her cities. in a weekly address from albany on thursday, the governor laid the blame squarely at the door

of the white house. the mayor of new york city, eric adams, has been pretty vocal in recent months, but the governor has until now preferred to communicate with mr biden and his advisers behind the scenes. but kathy hochul says the president has failed to respond to her repeated requests for migrants to be given work visas. this crisis originated with the federal government, and it must be resolved through the federal government. the borders and decisions about who can work are solely determined by the federal government. and sincejuly of 2022, in our first meeting with the president, mayor adams and i have championed the idea of a federal designation that would allow the individuals already here in new york the ability to work, to support themselves and their families. the mayor and i said that, and in countless meetings with congress, the white house, cabinet members, at rallies with labour, press conferences and working with business, what we've said all along

is just let them work and help us out financially. not a problem so confined to new york this, with complaints or democrats in massachusetts and colorado. costing your state millions because people are in hostels and cannot work. it’s hostels and cannot work. it's costin: hostels and cannot work. it's costing nearly _ hostels and cannot work. it's costing nearly the same for my home city of— costing nearly the same for my home city of chicago, where migrants have been sent— city of chicago, where migrants have been sent on flights and everything else from _ been sent on flights and everything else from places like texas and florida — else from places like texas and florida. the governor there is right — florida. the governor there is right the _ florida. the governor there is right. the fall down of our immigration system, the backlog, all that comes _ immigration system, the backlog, all that comes at the federal level. it is not _ that comes at the federal level. it is not like — that comes at the federal level. it is not like it if he president though _ is not like it if he president though. congress is supposed to help in the _ though. congress is supposed to help in the design of and reforms of our immigration system, which is quite

frankly— immigration system, which is quite frankly archaic and problematic, which _ frankly archaic and problematic, which we — frankly archaic and problematic, which we have been trying to push form _ which we have been trying to push for... he _ which we have been trying to push for... . , , which we have been trying to push for... ., , , ., which we have been trying to push for... , ., ., ,, for... he has punted to congress because he _ for... he has punted to congress because he knows _ for... he has punted to congress because he knows he _ for... he has punted to congress because he knows he can - for... he has punted to congress because he knows he can do - for... he has punted to congress - because he knows he can do anything through the congress should be descending by executive order himself? taste descending by executive order himself? ~ ., , ., himself? we will not see in a thicket of— himself? we will not see in a thicket of order _ himself? we will not see in a thicket of order before - himself? we will not see in a thicket of order before an - himself? we will not see in a - thicket of order before an election year for— thicket of order before an election year for any president when it comes to work— year for any president when it comes to work migrant visas was is not going _ to work migrant visas was is not going to — to work migrant visas was is not going to happen in my heart goes out to people _ going to happen in my heart goes out to people in _ going to happen in my heart goes out to people in new york as it does my hometown _ to people in new york as it does my hometown in chicago and even here in dc with _ hometown in chicago and even here in dc with me _ hometown in chicago and even here in dc with me in— hometown in chicago and even here in dc with me in the market crisis we are seeing — dc with me in the market crisis we are seeing but work permits alone are seeing but work permits alone are not— are seeing but work permits alone are not going to solve that crisis. what _ are not going to solve that crisis. what it— are not going to solve that crisis. what it will— are not going to solve that crisis. what it will do in the short term is actually— what it will do in the short term is actually it— what it will do in the short term is actually it will make more migrants see new— actually it will make more migrants see new york and other places as havens— see new york and other places as havens to — see new york and other places as havens to come to define walk away from the _ havens to come to define walk away from the country. i don't think that that is— from the country. i don't think that that is the — from the country. i don't think that that is the most effective energy either— that is the most effective energy either because essentially what we want to _ either because essentially what we want to do is make their home countries — want to do is make their home countries more viable for them live event _ countries more viable for them live event because a lot of the us foreign — event because a lot of the us foreign policy has created these structures that they are currently fighting _ structures that they are currently fighting against and trying to get away— fighting against and trying to get away from anyway. the crossover reall is away from anyway. the crossover really is tricky — away from anyway. the crossover really is tricky because _ away from anyway. the crossover really is tricky because people . away from anyway. the crossoveri really is tricky because people who are here, maybe some of them

illegally, and they are in hostels you were constant governments lots of money. similarly here in the uk we don't have a strategy for those people, some say let them work, the government is going the other way and is increasing fines for landlords and employers who hire them. . . landlords and employers who hire them. ., ., , ., ., landlords and employers who hire them. ., ., ., , them. yeah, what you have is the same problem — them. yeah, what you have is the same problem in _ them. yeah, what you have is the same problem in this _ them. yeah, what you have is the same problem in this country - them. yeah, what you have is the same problem in this country as i same problem in this country as an america _ same problem in this country as an america which _ same problem in this country as an america which is— same problem in this country as an america which is essentially - same problem in this country as an america which is essentially two i america which is essentially two leaders — america which is essentially two leaders who— america which is essentially two leaders who don't _ america which is essentially two leaders who don't feel _ america which is essentially two leaders who don't feel like - america which is essentially two leaders who don't feel like theyl leaders who don't feel like they have _ leaders who don't feel like they have the — leaders who don't feel like they have the political— leaders who don't feel like they have the political breathing - leaders who don't feel like they. have the political breathing space to take _ have the political breathing space to take the — have the political breathing space to take the most _ have the political breathing space to take the most important - have the political breathing space i to take the most important decision that would — to take the most important decision that would not— to take the most important decision that would not solve _ to take the most important decision that would not solve the _ to take the most important decision that would not solve the problem i that would not solve the problem because — that would not solve the problem because the _ that would not solve the problem because the problem _ that would not solve the problem because the problem of- that would not solve the problem because the problem of mass - because the problem of mass migration, _ because the problem of mass migration, hundreds - because the problem of mass migration, hundreds of- because the problem of mass migration, hundreds of deaf. because the problem of mass - migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving _ migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving each — migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving each year, _ migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving each year, is _ migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving each year, is very - migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving each year, is very hard - migration, hundreds of deaf people arriving each year, is very hard to i arriving each year, is very hard to solve _ arriving each year, is very hard to solve but — arriving each year, is very hard to solve but the _ arriving each year, is very hard to solve. but the first _ arriving each year, is very hard to solve. but the first and most - arriving each year, is very hard to i solve. but the first and most boring and most _ solve. but the first and most boring and most important _ solve. but the first and most boring and most important thing _ solve. but the first and most boring and most important thing you - solve. but the first and most boring and most important thing you can i solve. but the first and most boringi and most important thing you can do is give _ and most important thing you can do is give them — and most important thing you can do is give them work— and most important thing you can do is give them work and _ and most important thing you can do is give them work and get _ and most important thing you can do is give them work and get on - is give them work and get on the right— is give them work and get on the right to _ is give them work and get on the right to work _ is give them work and get on the right to work to _ is give them work and get on the right to work to they _ is give them work and get on the right to work to they don't - is give them work and get on the i right to work to they don't cost as much _ right to work to they don't cost as much money— right to work to they don't cost as much money or— right to work to they don't cost as much money or even _ right to work to they don't cost as much money or even just - right to work to they don't cost as much money or evenjust process| much money or evenjust process their claims— much money or evenjust process their claims for— much money or evenjust process their claims for quicker— much money or evenjust process their claims for quicker like - much money or evenjust process their claims for quicker like it - their claims for quicker like it should — their claims for quicker like it should take _ their claims for quicker like it should take six _ their claims for quicker like it should take six months - their claims for quicker like it should take six months like l their claims for quicker like it| should take six months like in germany— should take six months like in germany and _ should take six months like in germany and not _ should take six months like in germany and not three - should take six months like in germany and not three years i should take six months like in i germany and not three years and should take six months like in - germany and not three years and then they are _ germany and not three years and then they are stuck— germany and not three years and then they are stuck in — germany and not three years and then they are stuck in limbo. _ germany and not three years and then they are stuck in limbo.— they are stuck in limbo. squeeze her time but we — they are stuck in limbo. squeeze her time but we will _ they are stuck in limbo. squeeze her time but we will get _ they are stuck in limbo. squeeze her time but we will get a _ they are stuck in limbo. squeeze her time but we will get a quick- time but we will get a quick break and come right back i'm a stay with us. hello there. it's been a pretty decent day today across the south—east quadrant of england.

plenty of sunshine around. elsewhere, we've seen lots of showers, and some of them have been torrential, with some thunder and lightning mixed in. that's how it's going to remain into the weekend for most of us — sunny spells, scattered showers — because of low pressure nearby. now, the winds will be stronger across northern and western areas for the next couple of days. lighter winds, though, further east. as you can see, fewer isobars there. so the showers which we've had through the day will tend to fade away across many areas, but they'll still continue across northern scotland, parts of northern england, northern ireland and around irish sea coasts. but other areas will remain dry. but a cooler night to come, i think, certainly under clearer skies, temperatures of 7—11 degrees. into the start of our weekend, and we start off with quite a bit of sunshine around. rain, though, showers from the word go across the northern half of scotland. showers will develop widely across england and wales and northern ireland through saturday afternoon, and some of them will be heavy and thundery. lighter winds further east, a bit fresher further west. top temperatures, 21—22 degrees. mid—to—high teens further north, so it will feel cool, particularly when the showers come along.

as we head through saturday night, most of the showers fade away. certainly the heavy ones will. but we'll continue to see thicker cloud, some patchy rain across northern and western areas. and, again, a fairly fresh night to come. i think out of town, temperatures in single figures for many, but just about double figures in towns and cities. and then as we head into sunday, we've got this weather front pushing into western areas. that's going to bring an area of more substantial, patchy rain and cloud to northern ireland initially, then to western scotland, but it's a weakening feature, very quickly weakening, so it will be no more than a band of cloud as it crosses the irish sea. but elsewhere on sunday, sunshine and showers once again. top temperatures, 21 degrees, mid—to—high teens further north. that weather front, then, literally fades away as it spreads across britain on monday. remember, monday is a bank holiday for many of us. so once we lose that weather front, that band of cloud, we could actually see quite a bit of sunshine around for england and wales. a bit more cloud for scotland, northern ireland. but even here, there'll be some sunnier moments. temperatures maybe a little

bit higher on monday, 21—22 degrees here, high teens further north. but with low pressure always fairly close by as we move through the rest of the new week, it will stay generally unsettled. sunshine and showers and feeling a little bit fresher than of late.

hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. coming up... with the leader of the wagner group presumed dead at what it all means for their operations across the world. russian investigators say they have now recovered the flight recorders and all ten bodies from the scene of a plane crash in which yevgeny prigozhin is presumed to have died on tuesday. meanwhile, the kremlin says any suggestions that it gave the order to kill the wagner boss are a "complete lie". president putin's spokesman dmitry peskov said today there was "lots of speculation" amid the "tragic death" . he seemed to stop short of actually confirming prigozhin was on board but again he appeared to be talking about him in the past tense. the more intense scrutiny, outside russia, is fixed on what happens to wagners operations if he is dead. some speculate the group will morph and evolve into something else.

but who would lead it?