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thank you forjoining us. what is your understanding about what has going on here?— your understanding about what has auoin on here? , , . , ~ ,, going on here? every few years, nats has a problem — going on here? every few years, nats has a problem with _ going on here? every few years, nats has a problem with its _ going on here? every few years, nats has a problem with its highly - going on here? every few years, nats has a problem with its highly modernl has a problem with its highly modern computer systems. has a problem with its highly modern computersystems. nats has a problem with its highly modern computer systems. nats is the air traffic services provider. the problem is that today's writer is not like second world war rater, where you have a few blips on a screen and somebody hunched in front of an old—fashioned tube, this is highly computerised and has predictive capabilities that can tell the controller any threats that are going to be faced in the next 20 minutes so there are loads and loads of tools that modern controllers have at their disposal. if those tools fail because of some kind of glitch in the computer, then they

have to go back to basics and they are completely qualified to do there. the only trouble is, they can't handle anything like as many aeroplane safely, so the stop error planes taking off and any aeroplanes heading for uk airspace, unless they can be handled in small numbers, they are told to divert elsewhere. so what is your guess as things now on the size of the disruption we will be seeing today? i on the size of the disruption we will be seeing today?— on the size of the disruption we will be seeing today? i think it is already very _ will be seeing today? i think it is already very considerable - will be seeing today? i think it is already very considerable and i will be seeing today? i think it is already very considerable and it| already very considerable and it will cause a great deal of delay. i do not think anybody needs to worry about safety or midair collisions or anything like that because the whole reason for reducing the number of aircraft in the sky is, with reduced capabilities to allow the controllers to handle safely smaller

numbers of aeroplanes. now, nats engineers are looking into this. historically, this will be fixed by the end take, because this does not happen often, every few years something like this can take place and usually, after a number of hours and usually, after a number of hours and possibly by this evening, they'll have fixed it and we will be back to normal. the trouble is there will be a lot of aeroplanes a lot of people in the wrong place. that means more — people in the wrong place. that means more disruption in the days ahead. i am afraid we had to leave it there but thank you very much. we will bring it up—to—date with some of the statements we have received, these updates from the national air traffic services or nats as it's now in. you may be hearing that term throughout the day today. they have

set their experience technical issues with the system but did want to make one clarification which is that the uk airspace is not closed. in a statement this out we are continuing to work hard to resolve the technical issue and to clarify, uk airspace is not closed. we have had to apply air traffic flow restrictions which ensures we can maintain safety. air traffic flow restrictions basically means delays, so fewer planes taking off, fewer landing, so unfortunately, delays for everyone trying to get around today. this is bbc news. wejust had today. this is bbc news. wejust had to put there to say goodbye to some of our viewers but this is a making a new story that we are going to stay with because the implications

are potentially pretty significant for many people are trying to move around and fly into the uk and out of the uk. to get a bit of background on what's gone on, i spoke to simon coulter, travel correspondent at the independent. nats is the national air traffic services, they run all the services across uk airspace. that it appears that their entire system, the digital air traffic control system, has failed, they are getting aircraft down safely but they are drastically reducing the so—called flow rate, the rate at which aircraft can land. bear in mind that london heathrow is the busiest two runway airport in the world and london gatwick is the busiest single runway airport in the world, this is one of the busiest days of the year, hundreds of thousands of people coming back from various parts of

the world to get to, after the holidays in the mediterranean and a broad, and unfortunately, we are seeing the system failure. there is no certainty about when it is going to be fixed, which is extremely concerning. planes are being held on the ground at various european departure points because there is no clarity about when they might be able to get in and land, and departure is also being held from uk airports. given the overstretch in the system even at the best of times, i'm afraid this looks to me as if it's it going to cause severe delays and disruption, certainly for the rest of the day, even if this problem is fixed in the next few minutes. but my understanding is that nats does not know at this stage what caused the problem, or indeed how to fix it. that is

extremely concerning. i need to stress, there is no danger to anybody, aircraft will either be lunching where they are supposed to at a reduced flow rate or they will be diverted to other airports by possibly consummate a europe, places like paris and amsterdam, but with everything working at full tilt, i'm afraid, we are at a stage where no—one quite knows how the rest of the day is going to look. i fear there will be of a lot of people waking up tomorrow morning where they do not want to be because their flight had been severely delayed or indeed cancelled, and ifear the cancellations will be starting right about now with all the airlines due to rooms trying to figure out what they will be doing.— to rooms trying to figure out what they will be doing. thanks to simon calder there. _ they will be doing. thanks to simon calder there, providing _ they will be doing. thanks to simon calder there, providing some - they will be doing. thanks to simon calder there, providing some of - they will be doing. thanks to simon calder there, providing some of the background and unfortunately, some of those predictions are bad news for travellers ahead because coming

in in and out of the uk on an aeroplane is going to be a slower process than you'd want if you are travelling today and potentially tomorrow as well. we are getting updates, we had an update not long ago from dublin airport and saint delays and cancellations are likely there because of what's happened in there because of what's happened in the uk because of that technical issue with the national air traffic services system. we have been getting updates from british airways and other airlines today think that people should be expecting delays if they are travelling by plane into and out of the uk unfortunately. this is bbc news. welcome if you have just welcome if you havejustjoined us. this is bbc news. i am lewis vaughan jones. the headlines. flight delay

warnings as uk air traffic control systems are hit with technical issues. britain's national air traffic services has apologised. spain's football federation will hold an urgent meeting in response to the controversy surrounding its president, lewis ruby alice, after he kissed a player on the lips. we are returning to that developing story, britain's air traffic control system has suffered what has been described as a technical problem, technical issue. that unfortunately will mean plenty of delays if you are trying to come into or out of the country today. this is usually one of the busier days for flights. it is a bank holiday in the uk and there are plenty of people returning from their summer holiday. plenty of frustration unfortunately. let's

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