tv The Context BBC News September 1, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm BST
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74 million of his followers, "the election's stolen, - go to the capitol, fight like hell or you won't l have a country any more." some people listened to him. coming up in the next hour... as some members of the far right proud boys group are sentenced in the us for their part in the january 6th capitol riots, we take a closer look at the organisation and its origins. on our panel tonight: justine greening, former education secretary here in the uk. and from oakland, california, amanda renteria, former political director for the clinton 2016 campaign. also in our programme, and staying in america, a judge says donald trump's trial in georgia will be livestreamed and televised. could it be the most watched event
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of 2024 election year? and another milestone for artificial intelligence. england and scottish football clubs have been using artificial intelligence to scout and recruit players. three members of the far—right group the proud boys, who are staunch supporters of donald trump, have been given long prison sentences for their role in the storming of the capitol building in washington dc. a leader of the group, joseph biggs, an army veteran, was given 17 years, the longest sentences yet handed out. two others were jailed for ten and 15 years. our north america editor, sarah smith, reports from washington. there's probably about 300 proud boys there marching. thousands of people marched on the capitol on the 6th of january 2021. the violence that followed has already led to hundreds of convictions, with the longest sentences going to the people who organised and coordinated the riot.
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the proud boys, a neofascist group, saw themselves as donald trump's army, said prosecutors, who wanted to stop congress from certifying joe biden�*s victory by any means necessary, including force. ethan nordean in the baseball cap and joseph biggs in the checkjacket, took charge of the proud boys on that day, using a radio to co—ordinate and move their men. they've both been convicted of seditious conspiracy. we know about this. nordean used a loud hailer to direct around 200 people towards the capitol and encourage them to overrun the police. he'll be sentenced later today. we love trump! donald trump had invited his supporters to come to washington and to march towards congress using language many believed encouraged the violence that followed. we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country any more. joseph biggs sobbed in court and begged for leniency before he was sentenced to 17 years injail. his lawyer blames
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the former president. where's donald trump in all this? he stood on the ellipse, basically told people, 7a million of his followers, the election stolen. go to the capitol. fight like hell. you won't have a country any more. some people listen to him. dominic pezzola can be clearly seen smashing a window in congress, which then ignited the invasion of the building. he's been sentenced to ten years in prison. in a debate withjoe biden before the 2020 election, donald trump refused to condemn racist violence and namechecked the proud boys. stand back and stand by. the proud boys' leader enrique tarrio will be sentenced next week. donald trump himself is now facing two criminal prosecutions related to his attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. he's due in court next year over the actions he took to try and stop joe biden being confirmed as the president. if convicted, he also could be facing a lengthy prison sentence. sara smith, bbc news, washington.
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we are expecting another sentencing of ethan nordean, another member of the proud boys, he was convicted of six charges. we will bring you that as in when it happens. i spoke earlier to daryle lamont jenkins, executive director of one people's project, who has tracked the proud boys since their creation. it's really a learning experience for the united states, for this country, because we have neverseen, really, a comeuppance of this magnitude. in the case of the proud boys, it might be something that we would expect considering they was on this downward spiral well before january 6th. to see their president, or the ex—president, find his comeuppance in all of this is astonishing to us. but i've had dealings with some of the proud boys that
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are being sentenced this week and next week, and it was more or less it was time, it was time, because they had been trying to wreck havoc over two years, two to four years, of their existence. and now that debt is being paid. remains to be seen how much of that debt they will indeed pay even with their sentence. their sentence is well below the sentencing guidelines so far, and that's something that's frustrating to a lot of people. meanwhile, donald trump's trial in georgia over charges of election fraud will be livestreamed and televised, a judge has ruled. all the hearings will be available live on fulton county court's youtube channel, said judge scott mcafee. a date for the trial has not yet been set, but it could be next year when mr trump is running
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for re—election. mr trump and 18 people are charged with a conspiracy to overturn the state's 2020 presidential election results. the former republican president, who faces three other criminal trials, has pleaded not guilty to the 13 charges he faces in georgia. lets bring our panel in, and talk about the story i was mentioning about the story i was mentioning about live streaming those court proceedings. amanda, what do you think about? do usually federal court don't allow cameras and as a routine. �* , , . ~ court don't allow cameras and as a routine. �*, , . ~ . routine. there's been talk about whether they — routine. there's been talk about whether they should _ routine. there's been talk about whether they should and - routine. there's been talk about whether they should and there's routine. there's been talk about - whether they should and there's been a lot of people who want to see these court cases and there's a whole ever to get the picture is just right. this is opening a door to something we haven't seen in this country added happens to be an incredibly intense trial. i think what you will see as maybe this is a window into the future, but
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nonetheless this will be even more intense. not to mention that when you think about trump and his connection, this is it part form, he's very much in the space of how he's very much in the space of how he uses the platform. you will get a shot to do it but everybody will see how this trial works going forward. unusual, but what i think you are hearing from both side is it will give america to see the justice system working and hear all sides, and maybe people will have one truth to work with. we and maybe people will have one truth to work with-— to work with. we do have a former communications _ to work with. we do have a former communications director _ to work with. we do have a former communications director for - to work with. we do have a former| communications director for donald trump's transition team, so who better to ask than him? we are talking about the idea this trial in georgia is going to be live streamed. it isn'tjust people in america, people across the world will watch it. if you are still
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working for mr trump, would you say it was a good or bad idea? thank working for mr trump, would you say it was a good or bad idea?— it was a good or bad idea? thank you for havin: it was a good or bad idea? thank you for having me- _ it was a good or bad idea? thank you for having me. there's _ it was a good or bad idea? thank you for having me. there's no _ it was a good or bad idea? thank you for having me. there's no better- for having me. there's no better executive — for having me. there's no better executive producer of live television than donald trump. this will play— television than donald trump. this will play into his hands. he will have _ will play into his hands. he will have a — will play into his hands. he will have a role _ will play into his hands. he will have a role in everything uc, to what _ have a role in everything uc, to what the — have a role in everything uc, to what the attorneys are wearing and saying _ what the attorneys are wearing and saying. donald trump runs masterclasses when it comes to tv. we've _ masterclasses when it comes to tv. we've seen— masterclasses when it comes to tv. we've seen in the last seven years, we have _ we've seen in the last seven years, we have no— we've seen in the last seven years, we have no reason to believe it will be different. this we have no reason to believe it will be different-— be different. this is a trial, not a reality show _ be different. this is a trial, not a reality show or _ be different. this is a trial, not a reality show or presidential - be different. this is a trial, not a i reality show or presidential debate. they are all of those things, but track_ they are all of those things, but track only— they are all of those things, but track only knows what he knows. he knows _ track only knows what he knows. he knows the _ track only knows what he knows. he knows the audience and the voters, they will— knows the audience and the voters, they will he — knows the audience and the voters, they will be reviewing these things. if it they will be reviewing these things. if it goes _ they will be reviewing these things. if it goes to stay trial and doesn't io if it goes to stay trial and doesn't go to— if it goes to stay trial and doesn't go to federal court, which is what some _ go to federal court, which is what some of— go to federal court, which is what some of the defendants are trying to do, some of the defendants are trying to do. we _ some of the defendants are trying to do. we will— some of the defendants are trying to
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do, we will see donald trump the executive — do, we will see donald trump the executive producer of his own trial. let's _ executive producer of his own trial. let's ask_ executive producer of his own trial. let's ask you — executive producer of his own trial. let's ask you about the other story we were talking about, that is of course do sentencing today of more members of the proud boys. we saw in an area report that comment that mr trump made during a presidential debate. should he be condemning the group, and why isn't he? yes. debate. should he be condemning the group, and why isn't he?— group, and why isn't he? yes, i do think he should _ group, and why isn't he? yes, i do think he should be _ group, and why isn't he? yes, i do think he should be condemning . group, and why isn't he? yes, i do . think he should be condemning them. they used _ think he should be condemning them. they used the cover of protest to disrupt— they used the cover of protest to disrupt the peaceful transition of government. they were found guilty and should — government. they were found guilty and should be condemned. ten years isn't enough, it should be live. the most _ isn't enough, it should be live. the most important thing is that not of those _ most important thing is that not of those guys — most important thing is that not of those guys charged with insurrection were found — those guys charged with insurrection were found guilty of the crimes. there _ were found guilty of the crimes. there is— were found guilty of the crimes. there is no— were found guilty of the crimes. there is no documented evidence they were coordinating with donald trump. that is— were coordinating with donald trump. that is an _ were coordinating with donald trump. that is an important fact we have going _ that is an important fact we have going forward. if you look at the
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special— going forward. if you look at the special counsel, he has not charge donald _ special counsel, he has not charge donald trump with regards to earth. he should _ donald trump with regards to earth. he should condemn them, and i hope you changes — he should condemn them, and i hope you changes his mind. if he were to win the _ you changes his mind. if he were to win the general election, i hope he doesn't _ win the general election, i hope he doesn't pardon them. the win the general election, i hope he doesn't pardon them.— win the general election, i hope he doesn't pardon them. the 'udge said dominic pezzola * doesn't pardon them. the 'udge said dominic pezzola was _ doesn't pardon them. the 'udge said dominic pezzola was an _ doesn't pardon them. the judge said dominic pezzola was an enthusiastic| dominic pezzola was an enthusiastic foot soldier. we saw him lose the court and say shot one. they are inspired by mrtrump, and court and say shot one. they are inspired by mr trump, and a lot of people are saying he should come out against them. he showed. there's an argument to be made not whether track won or lost, but whether the election was fair and free. trump will make a claim that the changing of the rules at the last minute is uncalled for.—
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of the rules at the last minute is uncalled for. . . , ., ., uncalled for. the claim shot won the election outright _ uncalled for. the claim shot won the election outright is _ uncalled for. the claim shot won the election outright is false. _ uncalled for. the claim shot won the election outright is false. let's - election outright is false. let's brina election outright is false. let's bring amanda. _ election outright is false. let's bring amanda. what _ election outright is false. let's bring amanda. what was - election outright is false. let�*s bring amanda. what was your reaction to the sentencing. brian said he didn't think ten years was enough. what is your feelings on that? i agree. i think it's important we are finally seeing some accountability for the actions that these men have taken, breaking into the capital. there's been a long period where people were wondering if it was true or not shoe or a crime, and whether they can do it again. what this statement says is now you will be held accountable for doing it and our justice system held accountable for doing it and ourjustice system is working. it should be harder. i think we should have more republicans and elected leaders coming out and saying they expect to hear the former president call out this kind of violence and be on the side ofjustice. you are
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not hearing that. be on the side of 'ustice. you are not hearing that._ be on the side of 'ustice. you are not hearing that. let's stay with mr trum -. not hearing that. let's stay with mr trump- we — not hearing that. let's stay with mr trump- we will— not hearing that. let's stay with mr trump. we will be _ not hearing that. let's stay with mr trump. we will be talking - not hearing that. let's stay with mr trump. we will be talking about. not hearing that. let's stay with mrl trump. we will be talking about him a lot. justine, we were talking about the trial. it could be march, being live streamed. what do you make of it from this side of the pond? make of it from this side of the -ond? , make of it from this side of the ond? , ., make of it from this side of the 0nd? , ., , ' . make of it from this side of the ond? , . , , . ., pond? there is a big difference to his television _ pond? there is a big difference to his television appearance - pond? there is a big difference to his television appearance up - pond? there is a big difference to his television appearance up until| his television appearance up until now _ his television appearance up until now he — his television appearance up until now he didn't _ his television appearance up until now. he didn't go _ his television appearance up until now. he didn't go to— his television appearance up until now. he didn't go to the - his television appearance up until. now. he didn't go to the republican debate _ now. he didn't go to the republican debate because _ now. he didn't go to the republican debate because he _ now. he didn't go to the republican debate because he didn't _ now. he didn't go to the republican debate because he didn't think- now. he didn't go to the republican debate because he didn't think that| debate because he didn't think that was what _ debate because he didn't think that was what he — debate because he didn't think that was what he wanted. _ debate because he didn't think that was what he wanted. he _ debate because he didn't think that was what he wanted. he did - debate because he didn't think that was what he wanted. he did a - was what he wanted. he did a separate _ was what he wanted. he did a separate interview. _ was what he wanted. he did a separate interview. he's- was what he wanted. he did a separate interview. he's been was what he wanted. he did a . separate interview. he's been in control— separate interview. he's been in control of— separate interview. he's been in control of his _ separate interview. he's been in control of his media _ separate interview. he's been in control of his media up- separate interview. he's been in control of his media up until- separate interview. he's been in. control of his media up until now. he will— control of his media up until now. he will he — control of his media up until now. he will he in— control of his media up until now. he will he in a— control of his media up until now. he will be in a televised - control of his media up until now. he will be in a televised trial, - control of his media up until now. he will be in a televised trial, not| he will be in a televised trial, not in control— he will be in a televised trial, not in control of— he will be in a televised trial, not in control of it. _ he will be in a televised trial, not in control of it. he's _ he will be in a televised trial, not in control of it. he's not - he will be in a televised trial, not in control of it. he's not the - he will be in a televised trial, not in control of it. he's not the one. in control of it. he's not the one running — in control of it. he's not the one running it — in control of it. he's not the one running it it— in control of it. he's not the one running it. it will— in control of it. he's not the one running it. it will be _ in control of it. he's not the one running it. it will be a _ in control of it. he's not the one running it. it will be a different. running it. it will be a different environment _ running it. it will be a different environment for— running it. it will be a different environment for him _ running it. it will be a different environment for him to - running it. it will be a different environment for him to try - running it. it will be a different environment for him to try and manage — environment for him to try and manage he's— environment for him to try and manage. he's not— environment for him to try and manage. he's not going - environment for him to try and manage. he's not going to- environment for him to try and manage. he's not going to bel environment for him to try and - manage. he's not going to be able to manage _ manage. he's not going to be able to manage for— manage. he's not going to be able to manage. for those _ manage. he's not going to be able to manage. for those of— manage. he's not going to be able to manage. for those of us _ manage. he's not going to be able to manage. for those of us in— manage. he's not going to be able to manage. for those of us in the - manage. he's not going to be able to manage. for those of us in the wider| manage. for those of us in the wider world _ manage. for those of us in the wider world watching — manage. for those of us in the wider world watching on, _ manage. for those of us in the wider world watching on, staggered - manage. for those of us in the wider world watching on, staggered that i world watching on, staggered that any of— world watching on, staggered that any of it— world watching on, staggered that
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any of it could _ world watching on, staggered that any of it could have _ world watching on, staggered that any of it could have happened - world watching on, staggered that any of it could have happened in l world watching on, staggered that any of it could have happened in a j any of it could have happened in a proud _ any of it could have happened in a proud democracy, _ any of it could have happened in a proud democracy, there's- any of it could have happened in a proud democracy, there's a - any of it could have happened in a proud democracy, there's a real. proud democracy, there's a real keenness— proud democracy, there's a real keenness to _ proud democracy, there's a real keenness to see _ proud democracy, there's a real keenness to see america - proud democracy, there's a real keenness to see america get i proud democracy, there's a real keenness to see america get a i proud democracy, there's a real. keenness to see america get a grip and really— keenness to see america get a grip and really show— keenness to see america get a grip and really show it _ keenness to see america get a grip and really show it does _ keenness to see america get a grip and really show it does still- keenness to see america get a grip and really show it does still have i and really show it does still have the rule — and really show it does still have the rule of— and really show it does still have the rule of law— and really show it does still have the rule of law fundamentally i the rule of law fundamentally driving — the rule of law fundamentally driving it _ the rule of law fundamentally driving it i_ the rule of law fundamentally driving it. ithink— the rule of law fundamentally driving it. i think the - the rule of law fundamentally driving it. i think the next- driving it. ithink the next election— driving it. ithink the next election will— driving it. ithink the next election will very- driving it. ithink the next election will very much i driving it. i think the next. election will very much and driving it. i think the next- election will very much and are being _ election will very much and are being a — election will very much and are being a vote _ election will very much and are being a vote on _ election will very much and are being a vote on how— election will very much and are being a vote on how does- election will very much and are i being a vote on how does america run? _ being a vote on how does america run? is— being a vote on how does america run? is everybody— being a vote on how does america run? is everybody equal _ being a vote on how does america run? is everybody equal or- being a vote on how does america run? is everybody equal or are i being a vote on how does america i run? is everybody equal or are there some _ run? is everybody equal or are there some people — run? is everybody equal or are there some people who— run? is everybody equal or are there some people who can _ run? is everybody equal or are there some people who can break- run? is everybody equal or are there some people who can break the i run? is everybody equal or are therei some people who can break the rules and get _ some people who can break the rules and get away— some people who can break the rules and get away with _ some people who can break the rules and get away with it _ some people who can break the rules and get away with it and _ some people who can break the rules and get away with it and if _ some people who can break the rules and get away with it and if you - some people who can break the rules and get away with it and if you have i and get away with it and if you have enough _ and get away with it and if you have enough money— and get away with it and if you have enough money and _ and get away with it and if you have enough money and our— and get away with it and if you have enough money and our senior- and get away with it and if you have i enough money and our senior enough, then that _ enough money and our senior enough, then that is _ enough money and our senior enough, then that is something _ enough money and our senior enough, then that is something they _ enough money and our senior enough, then that is something they will - enough money and our senior enough, then that is something they will try- then that is something they will try -ive then that is something they will try give a _ then that is something they will try give a go? — then that is something they will try give a go? trump— then that is something they will try give a go? trump will— then that is something they will try give a go? trump will have - then that is something they will try give a go? trump will have his i then that is something they will try give a go? trump will have his day| give a go? trump will have his day in court _ give a go? trump will have his day in court and — give a go? trump will have his day in court and be _ give a go? trump will have his day in court and be found _ give a go? trump will have his day in court and be found innocent- give a go? trump will have his day in court and be found innocent or. in court and be found innocent or guilty, _ in court and be found innocent or guilty, just — in court and be found innocent or guilty, just like _ in court and be found innocent or guilty, just like anybody- in court and be found innocent or guilty, just like anybody else. i. guilty, just like anybody else. i would — guilty, just like anybody else. i would like _ guilty, just like anybody else. i would like to _ guilty, just like anybody else. i would like to see _ guilty, just like anybody else. i would like to see him - guilty, just like anybody else. ij would like to see him condemn guilty, just like anybody else. i- would like to see him condemn the proud _ would like to see him condemn the proud boys, — would like to see him condemn the proud boys, ttut— would like to see him condemn the proud boys, but it _ would like to see him condemn the proud boys, but it is _ would like to see him condemn the| proud boys, but it is disappointing. there _ proud boys, but it is disappointing. there are _ proud boys, but it is disappointing. there are these _ proud boys, but it is disappointing. there are these different _ proud boys, but it is disappointing. there are these different trials i there are these different trials happening _ there are these different trials happening. there _ there are these different trials happening. there is— there are these different trials happening. there is one - there are these different trials i happening. there is one common denominator, _ happening. there is one common denominator, donald _ happening. there is one common denominator, donald trump. i happening. there is one commonl denominator, donald trump. they happening. there is one common i denominator, donald trump. they are connected _ denominator, donald trump. they are connected to _ denominator, donald trump. they are connected to an — denominator, donald trump. they are connected to an election _ denominator, donald trump. they are connected to an election he _ denominator, donald trump. they are connected to an election he didn't i connected to an election he didn't accept _ connected to an election he didn't accept he — connected to an election he didn't accept he lost _
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connected to an election he didn't accept he lost and _ connected to an election he didn't accept he lost and try— connected to an election he didn't accept he lost and try to - connected to an election he didn't accept he lost and try to get i connected to an election he didn't accept he lost and try to get a i accept he lost and try to get a different— accept he lost and try to get a different result. _ accept he lost and try to get a different result. and - accept he lost and try to get a different result. and then- accept he lost and try to get a i different result. and then having not achieved _ different result. and then having not achieved his _ different result. and then having not achieved his own _ different result. and then having not achieved his own goals, i different result. and then having not achieved his own goals, we i different result. and then having i not achieved his own goals, we see what _ not achieved his own goals, we see what happened _ not achieved his own goals, we see what happened in— not achieved his own goals, we see what happened in the _ not achieved his own goals, we see what happened in the riots. - not achieved his own goals, we see what happened in the riots. thesei what happened in the riots. these are all— what happened in the riots. these are all connected, _ what happened in the riots. these are all connected, and _ what happened in the riots. these are all connected, and in- what happened in the riots. these are all connected, and in the i what happened in the riots. these are all connected, and in the endi what happened in the riots. thesel are all connected, and in the end it will he _ are all connected, and in the end it will be for— are all connected, and in the end it will be for the _ are all connected, and in the end it will be for the american _ are all connected, and in the end it will be for the american people i are all connected, and in the end it will be for the american people toi will be for the american people to decide _ will be for the american people to decide what— will be for the american people to decide what democracy— will be for the american people to decide what democracy they i will be for the american people to decide what democracy they want | will be for the american people to i decide what democracy they want and he was _ decide what democracy they want and he was fit _ decide what democracy they want and he was fit leading _ decide what democracy they want and he was fit leading them. _ decide what democracy they want and he was fit leading them. the - decide what democracy they want and he was fit leading them.— he was fit leading them. the point is mr trump _ he was fit leading them. the point is mr trump still— he was fit leading them. the point is mr trump still has _ he was fit leading them. the point is mr trump still has a _ he was fit leading them. the point is mr trump still has a lot - he was fit leading them. the point is mr trump still has a lot of i is mr trump still has a lot of supporters as well. i will pick up on a point you raise and ask brian this. he didn't show up at the debate. if he does like showtime, he didn't like it recently. the debate. if he does like showtime, he didn't like it recently.— didn't like it recently. the debate was a waste _ didn't like it recently. the debate was a waste of _ didn't like it recently. the debate was a waste of time. _ didn't like it recently. the debate was a waste of time. he - didn't like it recently. the debate was a waste of time. he has i didn't like it recently. the debate was a waste of time. he has a i didn't like it recently. the debatej was a waste of time. he has a 40 was a waste of time. he has a a0 point lead. i don't know anybody he would take the field... it would be like lee c5 trying to stake —— lee c5 trying to take the stage in the premier league.
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he took a risk, he didn't go to debate last time. he won in 2016. the analysis he did himself harm, history doesn't support it. it is being strategic. why would you get into a cage with a bunch of pigs who can't compete against you? i will brina can't compete against you? i will bring amanda — can't compete against you? i will bring amanda in. _ can't compete against you? i will bring amanda in. i _ can't compete against you? i will bring amanda in. i was _ can't compete against you? i will bring amanda in. i was looking at the figures for the number of people who watch the oj simpson trial in 1995. 115 million viewers, some 50% of the us. the thing you will see that many people tune in on you tube and old—fashioned tv to watch mr trump's trial lecture question i think it will be more. we trump's trial lecture question i think it will be more.— trump's trial lecture question i think it will be more. we are in the middle of an _ think it will be more. we are in the middle of an election _ think it will be more. we are in the middle of an election cycle. - think it will be more. we are in the middle of an election cycle. he i think it will be more. we are in the middle of an election cycle. he is l middle of an election cycle. he is the leading candidate for the
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republican party. he is entertaining. he is a producer, and ithink— entertaining. he is a producer, and i think we — entertaining. he is a producer, and i think we will also be looking for, is this— i think we will also be looking for, is this different, what does it go up is this different, what does it go up against, what does entertainment trump— up against, what does entertainment trump up— up against, what does entertainment bump up against? everybody will be tuning _ bump up against? everybody will be tuning in— bump up against? everybody will be tuning in for kinds of different reasons, _ tuning in for kinds of different reasons, whether you are a boater or supporter— reasons, whether you are a boater or supporter or— reasons, whether you are a boater or supporter or wondering what democracy looks like and justice. there _ democracy looks like and justice. there will— democracy looks like and justice. there will be a lot on the line —— voter~ _ there will be a lot on the line —— voter~ lt— there will be a lot on the line -- voter. , ,., there will be a lot on the line -- voter. , .,' . . ~ voter. it will be box office. thank ou, voter. it will be box office. thank you. prying- _ voter. it will be box office. thank you. prying- l— voter. it will be box office. thank you. prying- lam _ voter. it will be box office. thank you, prying. i am sure _ voter. it will be box office. thank you, prying. i am sure we - voter. it will be box office. thank you, prying. i am sure we will. voter. it will be box office. thank i you, prying. i am sure we will speak to you again. my pleasure. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. house prices have seen their biggest annual decline since 2009, according to the latest figures from the nationwide building society. that means the average property value is nowjust under £260,000.
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the mortgage lender said prices in august were 5.3% below their peak in august last year. mortgage approvals are down about 20% compared with before the pandemic. the uk economy made a stronger recovery during covid at the end of 2021 than previously estimated. that's according to revised official figures. data has now revealed that the economy was 0.6% bigger in the final three months of 2021 compared to prepandemic levels. the office for national statistics said the revised figures were mainly because it had better data from its annual survey. direct line insurance is to pay £30 million in compensation to customers for overcharging them when they renewed their home or car insurance. it admitted an error in implementing the financial watchdog's new pricing rules designed to stop renewals costing more than new customer's policies. you're live with bbc news. in the uk, the government is facing calls to "come clean" about the scale of the problems facing school buildings in england after some were forced to close
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because they were made with concrete prone to collapse. more than 100 schools are scrambling to put emergency measures in place before children return from their summer holidays. for most, that will be in a few days' time. the closures were announced after ministers said they had seen "new evidence" on the type of concrete known as raac and the dangers that posed. so far, a full list of the schools affected has not been made public. worth taking a moment to find out a bit more about the concrete at the centre of all this. raac, to give its full name, is reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. it's a lightweight concrete that was used in roofs, floors and walls between the 19505 and 19905. it's a cheaper alternative to standard concrete because it's aerated, or "bubbly". however, it's less durable, with a limited life span of around 30 years, and its structural behaviour differs "significa ntly" from traditional reinforced concrete.
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the health and safety authority says raac is now beyond its life span and may "collapse with little or no notice". lets go back to the panel. justine greening, and from california, former political director of the clinton 2016 campaign. justine, you've been education secretary before. why wasn't it sorted out earlier? days before many children are going back to school, not clear they can go back. are going back to school, not clear they can go back-— they can go back. there are difficult questions - they can go back. there are difficult questions for i they can go back. there are difficult questions for the i difficult questions for the department for education when parliament returns next week. there are two issues, one of course is how we make sure children can stay educated, because this will affect lots of students. this comes under the back of disruption from covid,
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and the second thing is how we address the challenges these buildings have. as we know, there are still many, many tests and surveys being done on a range of school buildings. the number of schools affected is likely to climb. the big question in a sense comes back to treasury, maybe perhaps more than the department for education. they can only have a programme with the money it is allocated, and those decisions on how much investment goesin decisions on how much investment goes in comes from the treasury. i think perhaps next week you will see some difficult questions for treasury on the decisions it took on prioritise and school building investment.— prioritise and school building investment. , . ,. investment. justine, you are school education secretary _ investment. justine, you are school education secretary in _ investment. justine, you are school education secretary in 2018. - investment. justine, you are school education secretary in 2018. did i investment. justine, you are school| education secretary in 2018. did you know about raac? what are you doing in office? it know about raac? what are you doing in office? ., , know about raac? what are you doing in office? . in office? it was something that arose after _ in office? it was something that arose after i _ in office? it was something that arose after i left. _ in office? it was something that arose after i left. it _ in office? it was something that arose after i left. it was - in office? it was something that
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arose after i left. it was later, l arose after i left. it was later, 'ust arose after i left. it was later, just after— arose after i left. it was later, just after in 2018. when you look back, _ just after in 2018. when you look back, the — just after in 2018. when you look back, the issues we were focused on related _ back, the issues we were focused on related to _ back, the issues we were focused on related to school safety in the aftermath of the grenfell fire, a lot of— aftermath of the grenfell fire, a lot of focus on fire safety. it is fair to — lot of focus on fire safety. it is fair to say— lot of focus on fire safety. it is fair to say for too long almost, the ongoing _ fair to say for too long almost, the ongoing maintenance budget the department for education has been given— department for education has been given to _ department for education has been given to invest hasn't really matched _ given to invest hasn't really matched the age of the school building — matched the age of the school building estate, this is something we need — building estate, this is something we need to look at. how can we make sure we _ we need to look at. how can we make sure we get— we need to look at. how can we make sure we get proper investment in our schools— sure we get proper investment in our schools are _ sure we get proper investment in our schools are state going forward. how can we _ schools are state going forward. how can we make sure the decisions taken lry can we make sure the decisions taken by the _ can we make sure the decisions taken by the uk _ can we make sure the decisions taken by the uk government, whatever party is running _ by the uk government, whatever party is running out, sensible? we are in a situation — is running out, sensible? we are in a situation where we saw the treasury _ a situation where we saw the treasury in £900 million in artificial— treasury in £900 million in artificial intelligence. that is classed _ artificial intelligence. that is classed as an investment, it goes on the balance — classed as an investment, it goes on the balance sheet. if we are
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investing _ the balance sheet. if we are investing in education, that seems a cost _ investing in education, that seems a cost. fundamentally, that is a problem — cost. fundamentally, that is a problem we have and need to address it we get— problem we have and need to address it we get more sensible decisions. i'm it we get more sensible decisions. i'm just _ it we get more sensible decisions. i'm just going to stay with justine i'm just going to stay withjustine because of her former education secretary hat and ask you one more question. i was reading the schools will have to find their own budgets to relocate children, find alternative classrooms if the buildings are considered condemned. that's unacceptable, school buildings are stretched already. department for education wasn't given— department for education wasn't given the — department for education wasn't given the resources it needed in regards — given the resources it needed in regards to— given the resources it needed in regards to the covid catch—up. one issue _ regards to the covid catch—up. one issue is— regards to the covid catch—up. one issue is how— regards to the covid catch—up. one issue is how much this forecast, but the second — issue is how much this forecast, but the second is— issue is how much this forecast, but the second is making sure the department is given additional resources to put in so we don't see money— resources to put in so we don't see money taken from hard—pressed budgets — money taken from hard—pressed budgets or other areas of education to pay— budgets or other areas of education to pay for— budgets or other areas of education to pay for it. i think the education secretary— to pay for it. i think the education
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secretary is — to pay for it. i think the education secretary is quite right to take a safety _ secretary is quite right to take a safety first approach. the department shouldn't have to make cutbacks _ department shouldn't have to make cutbacks in— department shouldn't have to make cutbacks in other areas. let�*s department shouldn't have to make cutbacks in other areas.— cutbacks in other areas. let's bring a man's end- _ cutbacks in other areas. let's bring a man's end- l _ cutbacks in other areas. let's bring a man's end. i worked _ cutbacks in other areas. let's bring a man's end. i worked in _ cutbacks in other areas. let's bring a man's end. i worked in america | cutbacks in other areas. let's bringl a man's end. i worked in america as well, i know there are challenges about the condition of buildings in the us. tell us more about the us. as a former teacher i remember how much of your own money youputting so the kids could have pencils, books or you want to take them on the trip. it has been all across america a problem of du have enough money, where you spend it, how do you make the infrastructure is right? i remember the asbestos we were finding and we had to invest in that. i will add another thing, which is as we think about climate change and the future issues coming to our classrooms and students and
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we have to think about the infrastructure. there's a lot of pending items from alto infrastructure. there's a lot of pending items from al to the building itself, to the new challenges we will face. no doubt, one of the quotes i take away from the conversation is, it does come down to what the treasury things. amanda, one of the concerns is that people who may have to move classrooms, students may learn on zoom again, and we know that all it took on children.— took on children. that's right. you are starting _ took on children. that's right. you are starting to _ took on children. that's right. you are starting to see _ took on children. that's right. you are starting to see a _ took on children. that's right. you are starting to see a lot _ took on children. that's right. you are starting to see a lot more i are starting to see a lot more school districts around here build up school districts around here build up their nonprofit foundation funds because they know this flexibility and volatility in the environment we live in today will require resources coming from somewhere else apart from government. that really does push inequalities further, because if you can't do that, what do you do
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your student?— if you can't do that, what do you do your student? amanda and justine, who better to _ your student? amanda and justine, who better to discuss _ your student? amanda and justine, who better to discuss that - your student? amanda and justine, who better to discuss that story? i your student? amanda and justine, l who better to discuss that story? we will have you in the next half an hour to discuss some other stories, but on the subject of the condemned schools and concrete, we will move on. this is bbc news. hello. the weather is changing over the next few days — a change to something drier and warmer, with some spells of sunshine. in fact, a decent weekend in prospect if you have outdoor plans. today, we have seen some areas of cloud, and indeed, some quite sharp showers. this is the satellite picture from earlier on — a stripe of cloud across northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, and some shower clouds further south. the showers continuing to ease through the evening. we will continue to see some bits and pieces of clouds and mist
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and fog patches likely to develop, as well, but also some clear spells. and where we have those clear skies across some parts of highland scotland, temperatures could drop down to around 1—2 celsius. it will be milder than that further south. saturday's weather story is one of high pressure, which will be building its way across the uk, chasing this frontal system away eastwards. so some areas of low cloud, a bit of mist and fog around first thing. the chance of one or two showers popping up through the day, but they should generally be quite light in nature. most places will stay dry. just a bit more cloud and more of a breeze through the afternoon into the far northwest of scotland. but temperatures up to 21 celsius in aberdeen and in belfast, 2a in london. could just get a little warmer than that across some parts of southeast england. and then, into the evening, most places fine and dry with some late sunshine. but more cloud and some rain into the far north of scotland, courtesy of this frontal system, which willjust continue to slide its way through during sunday. our area of high pressure centred across the south of the uk.
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under the centre of the high with light winds, again, some mist and fog patches to start sunday, which should tend to lift and clear to reveal some sunny spells. closest to our weather front in the north of scotland, we willjust see more cloud and a bit of rain. but eastern scotland with some shelter from the breeze, 20—23 celsius. come furthersouth, highs of 25—26, maybe 27 celsius. into next week, high pressure tends to retreat eastwards, low pressure trying to squeeze in from the atlantic, and this arrangement of weather systems will bring us a broadly southerly air flow — and that will introduce some warmer air from the near continent. now, there's some uncertainty about just how warm it will get, but we could well be looking at values into the mid to high 20s, possibly close to 30 celsius for some of us. it does look like turning a bit more unsettled by the end of next week.
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there's only an hour and a half to go before the summer transfer window closes for clubs in england and scotland, and it's been a fascinating few months of moves. premier league clubs have already spent a record £1.95 billion — $2.a5 billion — on players in the summer transfer window. and that's expected to rise to more than £2 billion by the close of the window, as clubs make a flurry of last—minute moves. and of course this year, there's the new kids in town — the saudi arabian league — which has attracted star players with mega money moves away from the big european leagues. joining me now is bbc sport'sjoe lynskey. let's start by going through some of the deals that might have been made today. the deals that might have been made toda . , ' :: , the deals that might have been made toda . , ' i: , ., the deals that might have been made toda. , 'i: the deals that might have been made toda, , 'i: ,., ., today. yes, 90 minutes or so left of this transfer —
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