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is more than also this morning... is more than 100 schools _ also this morning... is more than 100 schools stay _ also this morning... is more than 100 schools stay fully _ also this morning... is more than 100 schools stay fully or - also this morning... is more than 100 schools stay fully or partially| 100 schools stay fully or partially closed this week over concrete concerns, questions remain on how many more could be affected. british hopes in the us singles are over as jack draper's bid for a us open quarterfinal around it by andrey rublev at flushing meadows. good morning. iam andrey rublev at flushing meadows. good morning. i am withjon. andrey rublev at flushing meadows. good morning. iam withjon. look andrey rublev at flushing meadows. good morning. i am withjon. look at that spectacular sunrise. we are likely to see a few of those in the next few days with saharan dust coming our way. next few days with saharan dust coming ourway. did i next few days with saharan dust coming our way. did i want to get it is going to be dry, sunny and very warm for most of us. details later. carol is right. it really is spectacular this morning. welcome to langstone harbour, the university of portsmouth's marine sciences department. it is a wonderful spot
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to wake up to. the sunrise will be coming up in the next 20 minutes. we are here for a serious reason. not just to enjoy what promises to be a lovely day. we are discussing a topic which matters an awful lot to you at home. water quality. the amount of sewage in our water. this morning we will hear from the water companies. we hearfrom the environment secretary, therese coffey. we will hear from campaigners. and we would love to hearfrom campaigners. and we would love to hear from you as well. we will let you know how to get in touch throughout breakfast. because we have a big bbc investigation today, it has found that what looks like the water companies illegally discharging raw sewage hundreds of times last year. our team has seen analysis. they have looked at data from three of the largest water companies, times, wessex and southern water. it appears to show that on 400 spills last year,
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lasting thousands of hours, sewage was released, not during wet weather, storms, heavy rain and snow, but during dry weather. this is something thatjonah fisher has been investigating. it stinks, but is it legal? raw sewage was released onto england's beaches and into its rivers, more than 300,000 times last year. some of it was allowed, but our analysis of water company data suggests they're regularly breaking the law. rural west sussex and one of southern england's celebrated chalk streams. so here we are. welcome to the river lavant, or as we locally call it, the river lav. the river lav? the river lav. just full of full of effluent. rob, a retired businessman, is notjoking. there would be no river lavant in the summer without the treated discharges from the next door sewage plant. when we came, it was overflowing. so we had the storm overflow coming
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out here, untreated sewage coming out here. and we came back a few days later, it was still going on. a few days later, again, still going on. rob filmed what looks like a white fungus growing on the sewage slick. but why was it spilling? there was no rain on the day the flow began, or on any of the previous three days. rob complained, the environment agency investigated, and though southern water was found to have broken the rules, it was only given a warning. they treat it as a one—off, absolutely. whereas it had been going for probably three to four months, and continued for three to four months afterwards. it is a scandal. over the last few years, the water companies have been forced by the government to report details of when and where they discharge raw sewage. it's only supposed to happen when the system is overwhelmed. after heavy rainfall, or snow.
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it's not supposed to take place, as it did here, during periods of dry weather. so, how common are these dry spells? to find out, the bbc requested details from all nine english water companies. three of the largest complied, providing us with huge amounts of data. we then cross—referenced that with rainfall and found what looks like nearly 400 sewage spills lasting thousands of hours that started during dry weather. any spill that we can verify that's taken place during a dry spill condition would be illegal, against the permit. many of the water companies, like southern water at the lavant, say ground water leaking into cracked pipes is behind some of the spills. thames water apologised for some of theirs. wessex said some of the data they'd given us was flawed.
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there should never be a dry spill, and any suggestion that there has been one should be investigated fully by the environment agency. but i think really enforcement is not the way we're going to fix the ultimate issue, which is to reduce, and ideally eliminate, sewage going into our rivers and seas, which is why we have unveiled an ambitious plan to triple investment so that we can tackle the root cause of the problem, which is an ageing system, a tired system, and a very large system. the environment agency told us it's now working on its largest ever criminal investigation into water companies and their sewage spills. jonah fisher, bbc news. jonah is with us this morning. i know a lot of work has gone into this story. do you want to talk us through how you have done the research had reached these conclusions?— research had reached these conclusions? ~ ., , ., conclusions? water companies are re . uired conclusions? water companies are required by _ conclusions? water companies are required by the — conclusions? water companies are required by the government - conclusions? water companies are required by the government to - required by the government to provide details of how many spills take place and where those spills
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take place and where those spills take place. every year they report back to the environment agency. what we don't see published is the granular details of exactly when, and where, those spills took place. when they started, when they finished. that is important, because though we may find it disgusting, spilling a mix of sewage and rainwater into the sea, or into the river, is not illegal. the water companies are allowed to do it if the system is going to be overwhelmed, if otherwise perhaps the sewage might be going to come back into people's homes. they are not allowed to do it under the terms of the permits on these overflows if it is dry weather. so, what we did is we requested the information from the water companies, freedom of information request. three of the biggest water companies got back to us with a huge amount of data. much cleverer people than myself...! this
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was a massive spreadsheet. basically, they crunched the data, they combined it with data from the met office about when the rain had fallen. we adopted much more generous parameters and this than the environment agency so we could isolate when spills had taken place during periods of dry weather. as you said, we discovered, just from these three water companies — there are nine water companies in the uk— it looks like they have been spilling sewage during dry weather, somewhere in the region of 400 times last year. 50 somewhere in the region of 400 times last ear. ., , , last year. so released during dry weather? exactly. _ last year. so released during dry weather? exactly. that - last year. so released during dry weather? exactly. that is - last year. so released during dry weather? exactly. that is the . weather? exactly. that is the important — weather? exactly. that is the important distension. - weather? exactly. that is the important distension. if- weather? exactly. that is the important distension. if it - weather? exactly. that is the important distension. if it is l important distension. if it is really, really wet, they can do it. if it is dry, under the terms of the law, under environmental protection in law, they should not be doing it. there are some reasons they gave what it might be taking place that is unavoidable. there may be reasons why the environment agency, the regulator, decides not to prosecute one of the biggest reason is given
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as ground water, which is basically large amounts of water in the ground, effectively forcing its way into cracked pipes underground, which then, even during periods when it hasn't been raining, if there is a lot of ground water in there, it may leak into the pipes and contribute to overwhelming the system. there are reasons behind it. there are reasons why the environment agency might decide not to take action in every single case, but it is illegal. we will get lots of reaction to this this morning. what reaction have you got so far from presenting these findings? irate got so far from presenting these findinus? ~ ., , , , ., ~ ., findings? we have been speaking to eve one findings? we have been speaking to everyone involved, _ findings? we have been speaking to everyone involved, as _ findings? we have been speaking to everyone involved, as you'd - findings? we have been speaking to everyone involved, as you'd expect. j everyone involved, as you'd expect. the different water companies have different explanations. wessex said the data they had given to us, there were some issues with it. thames water apologise for some of the spills that we'd highlighted taking place in london. we also spoke to the environment agency, the regulators here, effectively saying, did you know this was taking place,
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are you aware? they said they can't say too much but they are in the process of what they are calling their largest ever criminal investigation, which is looking generally at the issue of spills form water companies. we generally at the issue of spills form water companies. we may hear more on that — form water companies. we may hear more on that front. _ form water companies. we may hear more on that front. thank— form water companies. we may hear more on that front. thank you. - form water companies. we may hear more on that front. thank you. whatj more on that front. thank you. what a spot! we have struck gold, haven't we? thank you so much. carol will have the weather shortly. but for now, back to salford. thank you. we look forward to hearing more from you later. the rest of the day's main stories. more than 100 schools will remain fully or partially closed this week over crumbling concrete concerns, with questions remaining over have any more could be affected. the education any more could be affected. tue: education secretary any more could be affected. tte: education secretary says any more could be affected. "tt2 education secretary says schools suspected of having raac concrete will be inspected in weeks. around 1500 schools have yet to respond to
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servers, causing huge uncertainty for parents and teachers. we have more. raac is a subject dominating the start of the new school term in england. there'll be no lessons at this school in scarborough this week. two thirds of the site contains reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. jasmine is in year nine. they've had support beams up for a while holding the school up and theyjust told us that it's a few areas. it is a bit scary now knowing that some things might collapse and it would be scary if it did collapse on us. parents have been told the school will open on monday, but some pupils won't return to classrooms and will either be taught in other schools or at home. our lady's catholic high school in preston will also be closed today because of the presence of raac, a lightweight material widely used in flat roofs between the 1950s and 1990s, about which there are now growing safety concerns. for many parents, following
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the disruption caused by covid, the new school year could hardly have got off to a worse start. it's frightening because, of course, it's disruptive to the children. henry missed part of year six, part of year seven and online lessons for year seven. now, of course, we're startinh year ten, which is gcses. so it's that uncertainty of what's going to now happen. however, nobody wants their children being unsafe. the government says a full list of schools with raac will be published this week, but its response has drawn criticism and has placed the education secretary, gillian keegan, under growing pressure. as these comments after a tv interview yesterday showed. does anyone ever say, "you know what, you've done a bleep good job because everyone else has sat on their bleep", no sign of that? she later apologised for her language. i do understand, by the way, the frustration for parents and for children, but safety has to come first and when you have that happening, you have to act on it. now i need everybody else to, you know, to give me all the information i need so i can make sure that we can
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mitigate the situation and minimise the disruption on children's education. the government has also ordered urgent tests on courts built in the 1990s after dangerous concrete was found at harrow crown court in north london. it was closed last month as a result. and the university of dundee has warned that replacing unsafe concrete in its buildings will cost millions of pounds. raac has been found in at least 24 university and college buildings in scotland. structural engineers are warning there are no quick fixes ahead. it is extremely difficult because the records are so poor and so in reality it has to rely on people who know what they're looking for making visits to all the buildings where this possibly exists, and that's buildings, any building constructed between the end of the war, 1950—ish through to the early 1990s, and then focusing on locations within the building which have got flat roofs and going
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into the room below the roof. schools in scotland, wales and northern ireland are also being assessed for raac. the scottish government has said it is present in 35 council run schools. the welsh government said two schools on anglesey, which had been due to open for the autumn term today, would be closed temporarily. tim muffett, bbc news. let'sjoin our chief let's join our chief political correspondent. still so much uncertainty for parents. can you bring us up—to—date on the latest developments? what can you tell us? i think there is a bit of a sense in westminster this morning that something is being unleashed here that is_ something is being unleashed here that is going to be very hard for the government to control. now, gillian _ the government to control. now, gillian keegan said yesterday the government would publish the full list of—
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government would publish the full list of schools affected by the end of this _ list of schools affected by the end of this week. but i'm not sure that people _ of this week. but i'm not sure that people round here, but more importantly, parents, families, teachers — importantly, parents, families, teachers etc, are going to feel reassured _ teachers etc, are going to feel reassured when that comes that that is the _ reassured when that comes that that is the full— reassured when that comes that that is the full list, because the government says there is still massive — government says there is still massive uncertainty about the full scale _ massive uncertainty about the full scale of _ massive uncertainty about the full scale of the problem in schools. you have the _ scale of the problem in schools. you have the education secretary's, i think— have the education secretary's, i think it _ have the education secretary's, i think it is — have the education secretary's, i think it is fair to say, outburst yesterday. _ think it is fair to say, outburst yesterday, using words that i can't use on— yesterday, using words that i can't use on tv — yesterday, using words that i can't use on tv at — yesterday, using words that i can't use on tv at this time of the morning _ use on tv at this time of the morning. but i think that was a sign of the _ morning. but i think that was a sign of the pressure people behind me are failing _ of the pressure people behind me are failing to _ of the pressure people behind me are failing to get this right. and no wonder. — failing to get this right. and no wonder, because it is becoming clear that this _ wonder, because it is becoming clear that this is _ wonder, because it is becoming clear that this is a — wonder, because it is becoming clear that this is a pretty widespread issue _ that this is a pretty widespread issue which could even go beyond schools — issue which could even go beyond schools. now i have learned of court buildings _ schools. now i have learned of court buildings which are now going to be urgently— buildings which are now going to be urgently tested by the government to see if they— urgently tested by the government to see if they have these concrete, which _ see if they have these concrete, which just — see if they have these concrete, whichjust months ago, the government felt they didn't even need _ government felt they didn't even need to— government felt they didn't even need to test because there was no possibility— need to test because there was no possibility they might be at risk. i think— possibility they might be at risk. i think what— possibility they might be at risk. i think what you have there is a really— think what you have there is a really good example of only one
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other _ really good example of only one other part of public infrastructure where _ other part of public infrastructure where this— other part of public infrastructure where this concrete might be an example — where this concrete might be an example of how this problem for the government is probably only going to .row government is probably only going to grow and _ government is probably only going to grow and grow. thank you.- grow and grow. thank ou. . ., grow and grow. thank ou. , ., thank you. the chief con is the of the police — thank you. the chief con is the of the police service _ thank you. the chief con is the of the police service of _ thank you. the chief con is the of the police service of northern - the police service of northern ireland, simon byrne, has resigned. —— chief con is the. he ireland, simon byrne, has resigned. -- chief con is the.— -- chief con is the. he had been facin: -- chief con is the. he had been facing calls _ -- chief con is the. he had been facing calls to — -- chief con is the. he had been facing calls to quit _ -- chief con is the. he had been facing calls to quit after- -- chief con is the. he had been facing calls to quit after a - -- chief con is the. he had been facing calls to quit after a seriesj facing calls to quit after a series of controversies in recent weeks. it included a data breach where the details of thousands of staff were leaked online. the government is expected to announce a change in planning rules in england to make it easierfor developers to build onshore wind turbines as long as there is community support for the project. ministers were facing a backbench rebellion on their energy bill from supporters of onshore wind. labour has already committed to changing the planning system to encourage more onshore wind power generation.
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the mother and father of a man shot dead by police one year ago say the wait to hear whether the officer involved will face criminal charges is agonising. the involved will face criminal charges is agonising-_ is agonising. the family of chris kaba has accused _ is agonising. the family of chris kaba has accused the _ is agonising. the family of chris kaba has accused the crown - kaba has accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency in making a decision over the case. the 24—year—old father to be doubt after being shot in south london a year ago today. speaking to greg mckenzie, his mother and fathers say they urgently need answers. pa. fathers say they urgently need answers. �* , . fathers say they urgently need answers. ~ , ., ., ., . answers. a year on from the police shootin: answers. a year on from the police shooting of— answers. a year on from the police shooting of chris _ answers. a year on from the police shooting of chris kaba, _ answers. a year on from the police shooting of chris kaba, his - answers. a year on from the police shooting of chris kaba, his mother| shooting of chris kaba, his mother and father say they are still coming to terms with their loss. tt is and father say they are still coming to terms with their loss.— to terms with their loss. it is very hard for everyone _ to terms with their loss. it is very hard for everyone in _ to terms with their loss. it is very hard for everyone in the - to terms with their loss. it is very hard for everyone in the family. l hard for everyone in the family. since that day, every day is a big, big issue for us. if there is a football, we think about chris. music, we think about chris. we think about chris. everything. chris kaba was killed _ think about chris. everything. chris kaba was killed in _ think about chris. everything. chris
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kaba was killed in streatham hill, south london, after the car he was driving was followed by an unmarked police car. the two vehicles collided on a residential street and a marksman fired one shot through the windscreen, hitting the 24—year—old in the head. it later emerged the audi car chris kaba was driving, which didn't belong to him, had been linked by police to a firearms incident the previous day. the independent office for police conduct completed its homicide investigation five months ago and past their evidence onto the crown prosecution service, but the family say they are yet to hear anything back on a charging decision for the officer who fired the gun. what officer who fired the gun. what about us? _ officer who fired the gun. what about us? what _ officer who fired the gun. what about us? what about - officer who fired the gun. what about us? what about us? - officer who fired the gun. what about us? what about us? when do we -et about us? what about us? when do we get to— about us? what about us? when do we get to do— about us? what about us? when do we get to do the _ about us? what about us? when do we get to do the proper morning for chris? _ get to do the proper morning for chris? it— get to do the proper morning for chris? it is— get to do the proper morning for chris? it is very disappointing, very~ — chris? it is very disappointing, very~ we — chris? it is very disappointing, very. we demand from the cps, we need _ very. we demand from the cps, we need a _ very. we demand from the cps, we need a decision. a— need a decision. a cbs— need a decision.
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a cbs spokesperson said... meanwhile, the metropolitan police have said while these matters remain ongoing, it wouldn't be right for them to comment further about the circumstances that led to chris kaba's death, adding speculation was not helpful. on saturday, the family of chris kaba will hold a protest outside new scotland yard to demand answers. greg mckenzie, bbc news. answers. gre: mckenzie, bbc news. greg mckenzie, bbc news. the national greg mckenzie, bbc news. tt2 national television awards will be returning to or screens this evening in one of our documentaries is up for an award. in one of our documentaries is up for an award-— for an award. yes, rob burrow, livin: for an award. yes, rob burrow,
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living with _ for an award. yes, rob burrow, living with mnd, _ for an award. yes, rob burrow, living with mnd, has _ for an award. yes, rob burrow, living with mnd, has made - for an award. yes, rob burrow, living with mnd, has made the| for an award. yes, rob burrow, - living with mnd, has made the final shortlist alongside deborahjames, shortlist alongside deborah james, matt willis and lewis capaldi. the winners are decided by the public. daniel rosner looks at the nominations. we are here live tonight celebrating the biggest shows and yourfavorite stars, all with one thing in common. and what a year it's been. right, deep breath. firstly, are you ok? hamza and jowita! up against call the midwife, stranger things and vera, the final series of happy valley faces competition in the returning drama category with both sarah lancashire and james norton nominated for drama performance. that boy is a prince. for all his ups and downs, he is about as unlike you as it's possible to be. i swear, if you really believe i'm a traitor... when it comes to the drama of reality tv, though... how do you think i feel? you've just literally set me up in front of you guys to get rid of me! how do you i think i feel? the traitors will take on sas: who dares wins, race across the world and love island.
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why does he want that? i don't know, but i'm not a traitor. while the documentary category showcases familiar faces who've opened up about their personal lives. # baby, baby, baby! the late dame deborahjames documenting herjourney with bowel cancer. and rob burrow living with motor neurone disease. i'm determined to get better, and i look at all the reasons i've got to live. and the national television award goes to ant and dec! the geordie duo have won best tv presenter for 21 years in a row. the first year we won a national television award, tony blair was the prime minister. could tonight change things? it could go to itv�*s this morning's alison hammond. this is really sad!
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her co—host holly willoughby isn't nominated, but the show does feature in the daytime category after spinning through a tricky few months. daniel rosney, bbc news. it always reminds me of things i haven't watched through the year. plenty of good stuff. you can still vote or by visiting the ntas website. voting is open now. it closes at midday. let's head over to carol in langstone harbour. it is looking beautiful where you are. hi. tt beautiful where you are. hi. . ., , , beautiful where you are. hi. . ., i, beautiful where you are. hi. it certainly is. good morning. look at this _ hi. it certainly is. good morning. look at this view. _ hi. it certainly is. good morning. look at this view. we _ hi. it certainly is. good morning. look at this view. we are - hi. it certainly is. good morning. j look at this view. we are looking out towards hayling island. we had the most stunning sunrise this morning. it is worth looking out for the sunrises and sunsets, because with the direction of the wind we are pulling up dust from the sahara desert. they will look quite
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spectacular this week. it is blustery here. temperature is about 19 celsius currently. the forecast for us all today is early mist and fog lifting and then what we have a dry, warm and sunny day for most. having said that there are a few showers in devon and cornwall. through the day they will migrate northward, getting into pembrokeshire. low cloud, mist and fog across yorkshire, and concerning which socialist. a weather front in the far north of scotland will produce bits and pieces of cloud and may be the odd spot of drizzle across caithness. later in the day what we will find is a bit low cloud will come in from the north sea across eastern scotland and also north east england. temperatures today widely the mid to high 20s. locally in the south—east we could hit 30 or 31 degrees. as we had on through the evening and overnight all that low cloud, mist and fog in the east will move a bit further
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inland. the further west you are, the skies will be. it will be a very warm night tonight. temperatures easily falling now lower than the mid—teens. tomorrow, all that low cloud, mist and fog will push back towards the north sea. low cloud moving up the nodes —— irish sea as well. in between, a lot of dry, sunny and warm weather, with increasing humidity. temperatures tomorrow potentially 31, maybe 32 in the south—east. again, widely into the south—east. again, widely into the mid to high 20s. we carry on with this scenario for the next couple of days after that. it is still going to be dry, sunny and warm for most. into the weekend we see a bit of a change coming into the north. thank you. we have waited long enough for the sun and the heat and we have finally got it. let's look at the papers. several titles focus on comments made by education secretary gillian keegan.
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the guardian reports that she has been forced to apologise over the unguarded remarks she made after an interview about the crumbling concrete crisis. the interview about the crumbling concrete crisis.— interview about the crumbling concrete crisis. the daily express focuses on _ concrete crisis. the daily express focuses on the _ concrete crisis. the daily express focuses on the health _ concrete crisis. the daily express focuses on the health secretary i focuses on the health secretary stephen barclay�*s comments on weight loss injections. he refers to the drug as a miracle and says it could help cut the nhs' annual bill for tackling obesity. bind help cut the nhs' annual bill for tackling obesity.— help cut the nhs' annual bill for tackling obesity. and the i paper leads with the _ tackling obesity. and the i paper leads with the labour _ tackling obesity. and the i paper leads with the labour cabinet. leads with the labour cabinet reshuffle. five mps from the tony blair area have been promoted. it is part of what the paper claims a sir keir starmer�*s aimed to blame a centrist team to sell his party defaulters. taste centrist team to sell his party defaulters— centrist team to sell his party defaulters. ~ ., ,, , defaulters. we saw that sunrise when we soke defaulters. we saw that sunrise when we spoke to — defaulters. we saw that sunrise when we spoke to carol _ defaulters. we saw that sunrise when we spoke to carol a _ defaulters. we saw that sunrise when we spoke to carol a moment - defaulters. we saw that sunrise when we spoke to carol a moment ago. - defaulters. we saw that sunrise when l we spoke to carol a moment ago. have a look at this stunning scene as the sun set behind wembley stadium in london last night. so dramatic. you can probably see the hints they are
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of what carol was referring to, the saharan dust, those beautiful orange glows on sunsets and sunrises as well. , ., ., _, ., well. plenty more to come on breakfast _ well. plenty more to come on breakfast this _ well. plenty more to come on breakfast this morning. - well. plenty more to come on breakfast this morning. but l well. plenty more to come onj breakfast this morning. but it well. plenty more to come on i breakfast this morning. but it is time for the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london. the family of a man shot dead by police in south london say it's "unbelieveable" they're still waiting to hear if the officer involved will face charges. it's now a year since chris kaba died after his car was followed by police in streatham hill. his parents have accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency. the cps said it doesn't "provide timescales for charging decisions" and is "carefully considering the evidence". there is no family, there is no life for us. not for myself, my wife, not for my kids. no more life, not for my family, not for chris's friends.
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everyone you see, they're all thinking about chris. new data shows the use of drones by police in the south east is on the rise. the so called "eyes in the sky" can help to catch criminals, find missing people and improve safety at events. thames valley police now deploys them around 1,500 times a year and were recently used at reading festival. the founder of kiss 100, is being inducted into the music walk of fame in camden later today. gordon mac is the founder of the london radio station that launched the careers of trevor nelson, carl cox & june sarpong among others. 50 london men all taking part in weekly football sessions. 950 london men all taking part in weekly football sessions. nothing remarkable about that you might think until you hear that between them they've lost three tonnes of fat. it's all part of a fitness plan called man v fat football which combines sport with healthy lifestyle coaching. since joining man vs fat football,
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i have made a massive achievement. i've lost a lot of weight, i've reversed my diabetes, i feel a lot healthier, both physically and mentally. and now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. the sunshine and the heat are both likely to continue as we go through the rest of this week. high pressure dominates, and there's some very warm air coming in from the near continent on a south—easterly wind. it will start to feel a lot more muggy and humid from tomorrow onwards. but for today, a bit more of a breeze around and we saw yesterday. because of the breeze, then, there is not so much mist and fog around as we saw yesterday. but still some patches of mist here and there first thing, lifting and clearing very readily through the morning. lots of blue sky and sunshine which we are set to keep for the rest of the day. temperatures once again likely to peak widely in the high 20s,
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we could get very close to 30 celsius. the uv levels are high. overnight tonight, again, we could see some patches of mist and fog develop, as that wind lightens, some very muggy air coming in. and tomorrow temperatures could get as high perhaps as 31 or even 32 celsius. a very uncomfortably warm night for sleeping on wednesday into thursday. that's it for now. lots more on social media including one of lots more on social media including one of the lots more on social media including one of the worlds lots more on social media including one of the worlds largest lots more on social media including one of the worlds largest diamond lots more on social media including one of the worlds largest diamond is now on display in london. hello, this is breakfast with tina daheley and ben boulos in the studio, and jon kay in langstone harbour in hampshire. there's uncertainty about how many schools could have unsafe concrete. more than 100 have been confirmed so far, but the education secretary has admitted there could be hundreds more to come.
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but there are also questions about why action was not taken sooner, and claims that cuts to school rebuilding budgets could be to blame. our analysis editor ros atkins has more. the government has this message on unsafe concrete in england's schools. we will spend what it takes to make sure that children can go to school safely. but there are questions about whether the tories have spent what it takes during their 13 years in power. before then, tony blair had won three elections for labour. and in 2003, mr blair announced the building schools for the future scheme. the initial aim was to refurbish every secondary school in england, and to build new ones too. and by 2010, the scheme's overall cost was £55 billion. also in 2010, labour would lose power, replaced by a coalition government led by david cameron, with a new education secretary, michael gove. two months later, mr gove would scrap labour's
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building schools scheme. money for repairs would be protected, he said. but more than 700 school rebuilds would be stopped. and michael gove offered this justification. the whole way that we build schools needs radical reform to ensure more money is not wasted on pointless bureaucracy, to ensure that buildings are built on budget and on time. a government commissioned review back this up, concluding that building schools for the future had an approach that, with hindsight, was expensive and didn't get to schools with the greatest need fast enough. now, for the last few years, more detailed data has been available on the funding of repairs and maintenance, and there's been a further safety issue to factor in, too. in the summer of 2018, a roof suddenly collapsed at a school in kent. it involved a lightweight form of concrete known as raac. it's designed to be light, easy to mould, and was extremely popular in public building projects after the war. but there's — we now know — a major problem with this stuff. and it's this. it can crumble, just like that.
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later that year, the department of education would issue a raac warning notice to schools. in 2019, an independent safety body warned pre—1980 raac planks are now past their expected service life, and it's recommended that consideration is given to their replacement. that would bring costs, added to the ongoing costs of school repairs and upkeep. but the government's own spending watchdog says the estimate of those costs has not been met. it says in recent years funding for school buildings has not matched the amount the department of education estimates that it needs, contributing to the estate's deterioration. by 2022, the government knew it needed more information from schools on the use of raac in their buildings. a questionnaire was sent out. and then, this august, the government said new evidence meant that the risk assessment for raac had changed. some schools were asked to close buildings. and as the issue escalated over
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the weekend, over a track called teenage dream, education secretary gillian keegan offered this reassurance in a youtube video. we're working to make sure that there is minimal disruption to education. the vast majority of settings will remain open for face to face learning from the start of term. the education secretary was also keen to emphasise that the government is not responsible for the safety of school buildings. that is backed up by a department for education blogpost from this summer. it says it's the responsibility of those who run schools — typically, academy trusts, local authorities and voluntary aided school bodies. gillian keegan also gave an interview to itv. as it wrapped up, she shared some further thoughts with the reporter. does anyone ever say, "you know what, you've done a bleep good job, - because everyone else has sat on their bleep and done nothing?" no signs of that, no? the short answer was no, not many people are saying that. the clip had appeared early afternoon.
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hours later, there was an apology. well, it wasn't me talking about anyone in particular. it was an off the cuff remark after the news interview had finished, or apparently after it had finished. and i'd like to apologise for my choice language. that was, eh, unnecessary. and so while the education secretary apologised for swearing at no one in particular, the issue of school safety still loomed large. some schools still have buildings closed. others wonder if they'll be next. and the government says it'll spend what's needed, while doing that from existing budgets. and so, while there's a perennial political argument over how much public spending there should be, we can say there has been what the institute for fiscal studies calls a decline in spending on school buildings, and that spending on repairs in recent years has fallen below the level requested by the department for education. let's get more on this now. we'rejoined now by damini sharma, whose company consults
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on buildings safety. thank you so much forjoining us. many people will not even heard of raac until the past week, what are the main concerns as you see it when it comes to building? tt is the main concerns as you see it when it comes to building?— it comes to building? it is being referred to _ it comes to building? it is being referred to as _ it comes to building? it is being referred to as a _ it comes to building? it is being referred to as a concrete - it comes to building? it is being| referred to as a concrete product but it's not a chilly concrete, it's very lightweight porous material that was used predominantly from the 50s to the 80s, and the main concerns are the structural integrity and the fact it was used integrity and the fact it was used in the context that it was going to stay in permanent buildings but it's not really suitable for permanent structures. 50 not really suitable for permanent structures-— not really suitable for permanent structures. ., , ., . structures. so what should it have been used — structures. so what should it have been used for _ structures. so what should it have been used for if _ structures. so what should it have been used for if anything? - structures. so what should it have been used for if anything? to - structures. so what should it have been used for if anything? to be l been used for if anything? to be fair, they didn't _ been used for if anything? to be fair, they didn't have _ been used for if anything? to be fair, they didn't have the - fair, they didn't have the information that we have now about the life span of raac. in the 50s when it was used, they would not have the same information we have now. innovation comes with time when things move on so effectively in the 80s when the first raac panels started to fail, they started to
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realise that they had a potentially 30 year life span and we have exceeded that by many years. shill 30 year life span and we have exceeded that by many years. all the more extraordinary _ exceeded that by many years. all the more extraordinary that _ exceeded that by many years. all the more extraordinary that they - more extraordinary that they realised this in the 80s and yet here we are, a week before the schools go back, and suddenly it's now come to the fore and it's being dealt with as an urgent thing. to be honest, dealt with as an urgent thing. to be honest. ben. _ dealt with as an urgent thing. to be honest. ben. it— dealt with as an urgent thing. to be honest, ben, it was _ dealt with as an urgent thing. to be honest, ben, it was talked - dealt with as an urgent thing. tfr n.2 honest, ben, it was talked about in the 90s, there were processes put in place, it was removed as a product from a permanent use within structural buildings. so they did know about it, it was under maintenance and review. the government were putting measures in place to deal with it and there were mod advisories, so lots of things were done but perhaps not at the scale and pace that they need to take place. scale and pace that they need to take place-— scale and pace that they need to take lace. ., ., ~ ., , ., take place. can you talk to us about the es take place. can you talk to us about the types of — take place. can you talk to us about the types of buildings _ take place. can you talk to us about the types of buildings that - take place. can you talk to us about the types of buildings that this - take place. can you talk to us about the types of buildings that this was | the types of buildings that this was used for. _ the types of buildings that this was used for, starting from the 1950s onwards. — used for, starting from the 1950s onwards, we are now talking about schools _ onwards, we are now talking about schools but — onwards, we are now talking about schools but this could affect many more _ schools but this could affect many more public buildings? yes, schools but this could affect many more public buildings?— more public buildings? yes, it's buildinus
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more public buildings? yes, it's buildings such _ more public buildings? yes, it's buildings such as _ more public buildings? yes, it's buildings such as court - more public buildings? yes, it's buildings such as court houses, | buildings such as court houses, hospitals, we have heard about hospitals, we have heard about hospitals who have moved patients to different wards because there are raac panels, and the public sector buildings, council offices, the mod within their estate have a lot of buildings with raac panels, it could be potentially in social housing but perhaps not to the scale that it is in schools. t5 perhaps not to the scale that it is in schools-— in schools. is it hard to detect? potentially _ in schools. is it hard to detect? potentially because _ in schools. is it hard to detect? potentially because it _ in schools. is it hard to detect? potentially because it covered. | in schools. is it hard to detect? - potentially because it covered. you have a cover internally from the ceiling and then potentially externally as well. we can only detect it if you open it up. we have seen some — detect it if you open it up. we have seen some schools, _ detect it if you open it up. we have seen some schools, temporarily i seen some schools, temporarily propping up the ceiling to try and reduce the risk. is it safe to do that, does that make a difference, or is it better to just not use the space at all? tt’s or is it better to 'ust not use the space at am— space at all? it's swings and roundabouts, _ space at all? it's swings and roundabouts, different - space at all? it's swings and - roundabouts, different structural integrity in different buildings will have been affected in different ways. props are definitely a temporary measure, not permanent.
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ideally a structural engineer says the space might be safe to use temporarily, they are the experts, that's fine. but it's important to get it rectified quickly. for the most part it is a short—term measure. most part it is a short-term measure-— most part it is a short-term measure. 2 . ~ ., , measure. we talk about it being temporary. _ measure. we talk about it being temporary. how— measure. we talk about it being temporary, how many _ measure. we talk about it being temporary, how many parents, l temporary, how many parents, thousands— temporary, how many parents, thousands up and down the country, so much _ thousands up and down the country, so much uncertainty, they don't know how long _ so much uncertainty, they don't know how long this will last and if their school— how long this will last and if their school is — how long this will last and if their school is affected. in terms of the timeline, — school is affected. in terms of the timeline, what is the time frame look like — timeline, what is the time frame look like for getting this sorted? how long — look like for getting this sorted? how long is a piece of string? it is going to take months if not years to rectify all of the buildings that have been impacted by raac. the priority has to be put into place a risk and priority order. determine which buildings are high—risk, court buildings potentially you can move
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the work that is going on to other less risky buildings. but it isn't something which will be fixed overnight. we have got to investigate, determine that raac is present and then put in place a renovation programme and the removal of raac panels is not a sure process, they have got to be removed from the top and the building has got to be held together while that is done, and a new roofing structure put in place. is done, and a new roofing structure put in place-— put in place. damini, thank you very much for your— put in place. damini, thank you very much for your expertise, _ put in place. damini, thank you very much for your expertise, damini - much for your expertise, damini sharma. let's get the sport now, withjohn. yes, good morning. british hopes in the us open singles are over. jack draper is out, beaten in four sets by andrey rublev, ending his hopes of reaching a first grand slam quarterfinal. despite defeat the 21—year—old believes he can still become one of the best players in the world. our correspondentjoe wilson was watching. he belongs here, doesn't he? jack draper has the game for the business week of a grand slam, to push the best players. that's been clear in new york.
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it was again in the fourth round. his opponent, andrei rublev, seeded eight, took the first set. he's an extravagant shot maker. he's also an emotional roller—coaster. witness his reaction when a double fault helped draper to win the second set. in the third, there were some ice cool winners from the british player. he led for a while. the dynamics, to take the set, and to shift his own mentality. big moment for andrey rublev. in the fourth, draper was tiring. that was hardly surprising. he'd had no preparation for the tournament, was pleased just to be fit enough to play it. now finally defeated. like any player, draper needs to stay fit, but his rivals i have barely paid any tennis this year, really. ithink
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i have barely paid any tennis this year, really. i think i i have barely paid any tennis this year, really. ithink i have i have barely paid any tennis this year, really. i think i have played ten and i have retired in many of them. i have still improved physically, i still honestly believe that and i think it does show on court but at the same time, i need more match exposure at this high level to be able to come to these tournaments and feel like i can really cope for four hours. like any player, draper needs to stay fit, but his rivals recognise a contender. joe wilson, bbc news. the defending champion carlos alcaraz is into his third consecutive us open quarterfinal as he continues his title defence. he beat italian matteo arnaldi, and looked good on arthur ashe, to set up a last—eight tie with eitherjannik sinner or alexander to set up a last—eight tie with alexander zverev. we've seen some shocks in the women's draw with the top seed iga swiatek going out. and now the wimbledon finalist ons jabeur�*s been knocked out by china's zheng qinwen in the last 16. the third seed jessica pegula also
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out losing to the american madison keys in straight sets. one of the favourites, pegula left disapointed, but did manage to pick herself up, progressing to the women's quarter finals alongside coco gauff. the manchester united winger antony has been dropped by brazil, following allegations of abuse by his former girlfriend. the brazilian football federation said the 23—year—old had been withdrawn from the squad after "facts became public" that "need to be investigated". police in sao paulo and greater manchester are investigating the claims, which the player has denied. manchester united said they have no comment on the matter at present when they were contacted by bbc sport. news now of a double setback for england heading into their european 2024 qualifier with ukraine. both trent alexander arnold and jack grealish have withdrawn from the squad through injury. manager gareth southgate has not called up any replacements. england also face scotland
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in a friendly next week. it's a busy couple of weeks of international football with home nations in action with the european qualifiers. further process on luis rubiales with the men's team saying his behaviour is an acceptable. the women is unacceptable. they said the women's world cup team had been tarnished with the win. luis rubiales has been widely condemned for kissing jenny hernandez on the lips. roy keane was the reported target of an assault which has seen a 42—year—old man arrested following arsenal's victory over manchester united on sunday. but it was circulated showing pundits michael keane and roy keane —— micah
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richards and roy keane involved in an altercation with a man, richards was involved in defusing the situation, it was claimed. less than four weeks to go until the ryder cup begins and we know now who will make up team europe as they aim to win back the famous trophy for team usa. captain luke donald has named his six wild card picks and they surprisingly include ludvig aberg. the 23—year—old only turned professional injune but did win the european masters on sunday and will now make his ryder cup debut. really, i needed to see him perform these last two weeks. it certainly wasn't a guarantee before that. and his commitment to come over, finishing fifth and then what he did yesterday, and throughout the whole week, his last four, just kind of
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solidified my mind. there was all to play for these last couple of weeks, it wasn't decided firmly in my mind. rivalry is renewed between usa and team europe. the tour of britain was won by olaf koray. a frantic finish heading into wrexham. the dutchman collided with tobias learned, a nasty fall, remarkably the dane able to get back on his bike. he finished and a half minutes behind the winner. —— two and a half minutes behind the winner. the perils of being a cricketing umpire. when a hard ball is heading in your direction, anthony harris was standing over the stumps at yorkshire versus derbyshire, and he had to take evasive action. i would rather that, fall on your backside,
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then get a hard ball somewhere uncomfortable! the perils of the job. uncomfortable! the perils of the 'ob. ., , ., ~ job. that looked very painful, thank ou, john! you, john! good morning. if you are wondering wherejon is? jon's live at langstone harbour this morning where he's looking at the issues around water pollution, and asking if enough is being done to protect our rivers and seas. good morning, we are all giving you a wave, good morning from the breakfast team on the roof of the university of portsmouth's marine sciences department here overlooking langstone harbour in hampshire. a spectacular sunrise in the last few minutes, a beautiful start to the day on the solent. as we come here to look at the serious issue of water pollution and sewage, notjust here but affecting places all over the country. but we are notjust looking at the skies and the sun and
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the sunrise, we are looking in quite a lot of detail today at water quality. ijust wanted to give you some figures. this is why we have come to look at this subject today. last year, water companies in england alone released raw sewage into rivers and seas for more than 1.7 million hours. let's break that down further. sewage was released an average of 825 times per day into our waterways. average of 825 times per day into ourwaterways. if average of 825 times per day into our waterways. if you are struggling to work out what that means, let's break it down further. last year, so it was released into our waterways roughly every two minutes. in fact more often than that, every one minute 45 seconds. during an episode of bbc breakfast, raw sewage would be released into our waterways during the programme on average about 100 times. that gives you a
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sense of the issues at stake here. the cost it might take to put it right, to improve the infrastructure, and this morning we are going to be talking about the cost and who pays for it. because this is a working harbour, lots of people coming in and out of here all the time, fishing boats, leisure craft, lifeboats, i have seen tankers in the distance, we might get a glimpse of the isle of wight ferry coming in and out as well. so it really matters to people here. but even if you don't live near the coast or near a river, water still affects everything are one of us. we all turn the tap every day, you might have done it this morning and we'll pay our water bills. so we will talk to politicians this morning and water containers, we want to hearfrom morning and water containers, we want to hear from you as well, but we also need to crucially know what the weather is going to be like. carol is down on the beach, how did you manage that one?
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i get all the good jobs, good morning! i am giving you a big way, don't know if you can see us. we are down on the mud flats in langston bay and if you look around you can see all of this algae around me, the green stuff which is quite slippery if you walk on it. the mud flats are a vital habitat for wading birds. this green algae is so obvious at low tide. it's an indicator of high amounts of nutrients in the water which encourages its growth, and this can smother seagrass which is a valuable habitat forjuvenile this can smother seagrass which is a valuable habitat for juvenile fish to hide income including seahorses. the algae might also reduces the amount of criticism live here. portsmouth harbour have —— portsmouth harbour have —— portsmouth university have been looking at study trying to reduce this and we are going to hear the results of the project in due
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course. it's blustery this morning, the forecast today is for early mist and fog patches clearing and then dry, sunny and warm. low pressure is anchored across siberia, it is pulling in warm air from our direction. some saharan dust so some spectacular sunrises and some sets to come this week. this morning petchey mist and fog to clear, we also have showers coming in across devon and cornwall making their way up to pembrokeshire. a lot of dry and sunny conditions, but a bit more cloud there in caithness, you could see some drizzle. temperatures widely in the mid to high 20s, locally in the south—east it could get up to 31. this evening
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and overnight, the low cloud that comes in to eastern england will drift inland, clearer skies towards the west and it will not be a cold night. temperatures easily in double figures for most of us. into tomorrow, the low cloud, mist and fog that has come into eastern areas pushes back out into the north sea. no cloud pushing up the irish sea but in between, dry, sunny and warm. rising levels of humidity and in actualfact, temperatures rising levels of humidity and in actual fact, temperatures could rising levels of humidity and in actualfact, temperatures could be “p actualfact, temperatures could be up to 32 in the south east, but widely mid to high 20s. thursday, more of the same, no cloud goes to the east coast but most of us dry, sunny and warm, could see some thunderstorm in the west pushing west and north through the day. many of us will miss them and it is still
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humid by night wednesday into thursday, he made on thursday itself, the potential of highs 32 in the south—east. it is not until later on that we see the weather breakdown from the atlantic, into the weekend in the north and early next week, we are keeping a close eye. keeping a close eye on you jon, i can see you up there. we are looking down on you, as ever! not as ever! it looks like a spectacular sunrise. we need to make use of the wind, get some windsurfing out, i will raci to the isle of wight later. —— race you? she clearly doesn't like that idea, does she? she has gone quiet. we will catch up with carol later on. we are live in langstone harbour on
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the solent with a special programme looking at water pollution sewage because it is something you care about, we have been getting your questions and we will try to answer them this morning. we are notjust talking about coastal pollution, we are talking about rivers as well. the lambton is out on the wye in monmouthshire, i think you are out this morning, fi lamden? yes, the geese flying over, we have seen a kingfisher, this is one of one of the longest and best loved rivers in britain. paul and wayne are keeping us safe on the boats, and we are with nick, who is testing the water this morning. people are seriously worried about the health of this water. you have lived here for 15 years, tell us what changes
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you have seen over this time. we used to go _ you have seen over this time. we used to gojust up the river up here and go _ used to gojust up the river up here and go for— used to gojust up the river up here and go for a — used to gojust up the river up here and go for a picnic and a paddle, while _ and go for a picnic and a paddle, while swimming as we would call it nowadays — while swimming as we would call it nowadays. it is to be really lovely to do _ nowadays. it is to be really lovely to do that, — nowadays. it is to be really lovely to do that, a lovely clean river with _ to do that, a lovely clean river with a — to do that, a lovely clean river with a clear view down to a clean river _ with a clear view down to a clean river bed — with a clear view down to a clean river bed with all sorts of pebbles. seven— river bed with all sorts of pebbles. seven or— river bed with all sorts of pebbles. seven or eight years ago, that all changed — seven or eight years ago, that all changed. the river bed became covered — changed. the river bed became covered in— changed. the river bed became covered in so slippery it was quite dangerous— covered in so slippery it was quite dangerous to walk in, the slime looked — dangerous to walk in, the slime looked and smelt horrible. the whole 'oy looked and smelt horrible. the whole joy went _ looked and smelt horrible. the whole joy went out of it. what looked and smelt horrible. the whole joy went out of it.— joy went out of it. what is accounting _ joy went out of it. what is accounting for _ joy went out of it. what is accounting for the - joy went out of it. what is accounting for the slime, | joy went out of it. what is - accounting for the slime, what is the problem?— accounting for the slime, what is the roblem? ,, , ., , ., the problem? slime is largely down to alaae the problem? slime is largely down to algae dying _ the problem? slime is largely down to algae dying off. _ the problem? slime is largely down to algae dying off, and _ the problem? slime is largely down to algae dying off, and the - the problem? slime is largely down | to algae dying off, and the enormous amount— to algae dying off, and the enormous amount of— to algae dying off, and the enormous amount of algae that had been growing — amount of algae that had been growing in recent years is down to an excess— growing in recent years is down to an excess quantity of nutrients in the water, — an excess quantity of nutrients in the water, most of that coming from agriculture. — the water, most of that coming from agriculture, 70% of it is coming from _ agriculture, 70% of it is coming from agriculture. so agriculture, 70% of it is coming from agriculture.— agriculture, 70% of it is coming from agriculture. so this morning ou are from agriculture. so this morning you are testing. _
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from agriculture. so this morning you are testing, what _ from agriculture. so this morning you are testing, what are - from agriculture. so this morning you are testing, what are you - from agriculture. so this morning - you are testing, what are you doing? i should qualify that by saying industrial scale agriculture, there has been — industrial scale agriculture, there has been a — industrial scale agriculture, there has been a lot of intensive poultry units _ has been a lot of intensive poultry units in _ has been a lot of intensive poultry units in particular. this morning, i have _ units in particular. this morning, i have filled — units in particular. this morning, i have filled up this clear vial with water— have filled up this clear vial with water fresh from the river here. we tested _ water fresh from the river here. we tested a _ water fresh from the river here. we tested a similar one just before, it came _ tested a similar one just before, it came out— tested a similar one just before, it came out quite a low value on the wye this — came out quite a low value on the wye this morning, within the target level expected. we have a similar vial of— level expected. we have a similar vial of water from... can level expected. we have a similar vial of water from. . ._ vial of water from. .. can you hold it u- so vial of water from. .. can you hold it up so people — vial of water from. .. can you hold it up so people can _ vial of water from. .. can you hold it up so people can see _ vial of water from. .. can you hold it up so people can see it? - vial of water from. .. can you hold it up so people can see it? thank| it up so people can see it? thank ou. we it up so people can see it? thank you- we have _ it up so people can see it? thank you. we have done _ it up so people can see it? thank you. we have done a _ it up so people can see it? thank you. we have done a similar - it up so people can see it? thank you. we have done a similar testj it up so people can see it? thank. you. we have done a similar test in the stream. — you. we have done a similar test in the stream, gathered no great distance — the stream, gathered no great distance away, and it has an extremely high level of phosphate, so high _ extremely high level of phosphate, so high it— extremely high level of phosphate, so high it is of the scale of the metre — so high it is of the scale of the metre. ., ., , ., , , so high it is of the scale of the metre. ., ., , ., . metre. you are seriously concerned. thank ou metre. you are seriously concerned. thank you so — metre. you are seriously concerned. thank you so much, _ metre. you are seriously concerned. thank you so much, nick. _ metre. you are seriously concerned. thank you so much, nick. we - metre. you are seriously concerned. thank you so much, nick. we will i
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metre. you are seriously concerned. | thank you so much, nick. we will be speaking to the environment agency and the nfu later this morning there will be pre—putting all of those points to them. it's important to say that welsh water say that sewage is only a tiny percentage of the problem here and they are investing millions on this side of the border. we will leave you with a beautiful shot of the wye. we are here throughout the morning finding out about its health and people's concerns. fiona, thank you. it looks like a beautiful morning on the wye in monmouth. just as it is here in langstone harbour on the south coast, overlooking the solent. we have been better with some beautiful weather this morning —— blessed with some beautiful weather which has distracted from the grim stuff we are talking about, pollution and sewage. we will bear in mind it is breakfast time in the pictures that we show you. fi lamden talking about some of the people she will be
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joined with, we will be joined by feargal sharkey later on, pop and rock musician from the 70s and 80, now water campaigner, he will be here to talk to us. we will also be speaking to the environment secretary terrier�*s coffee and putting his —— therese coffey, and we would love to hear for from you. we will put questions to her. if you have got questions about the water, the water you get out of the taps or the water you get out of the taps or the water you have been raiding in at the beach or how you favour the system, get in touch. get in touch with the numbers on your screen at the moment. wherever you are this morning, we can now get the news, travel and weather from our teams around the uk. hello, good morning from bbc london.
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i'm alison earle. the family of a man shot dead by police in south london say it's "unbelieveable" they're still waiting to hear if the officer involved will face charges. it's now a year since chris kaba died after his car was followed by police in streatham hill. his parents have accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency. the cps said it doesn't "provide timescales for charging decisions" and is "carefully considering the evidence". there is no family, there is no life for us. not for myself, my wife, not for my kids. no more life, not for my family, not for chris's friends. everyone you see, they're all thinking about chris. new data shows the use of drones by police in the south east is on the rise. the so called "eyes in the sky" can help to catch criminals, find missing people and improve safety at events. thames valley police now deploys them around 1,500 times a year and were recently used at reading
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festival. the founder of kiss 100, is being inducted into the music walk of fame in camden later today. gordon mac is the founder of the london radio station that launched the careers of trevor nelson, carl cox & june sarpong among others. 950 london men all taking part in weekly football sessions. nothing remarkable about that you might think until you hear that between them they've lost three tonnes of fat. it's all part of a fitness plan called man v fat football which combines sport with healthy lifestyle coaching. for overweight and obese. the clubs are run across london in sutton, leyton. enfield and westminster. since joining man vs fat football, i have made a massive achievement. i've lost a lot of weight, i've reversed my diabetes, i feel a lot healthier, both physically and mentally.
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and now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. the sunshine and the heat are both likely to continue as we go through the rest of this week. high pressure dominates, and there's some very warm air coming in from the near continent on a south—easterly wind. it will start to feel a lot more muggy and humid from tomorrow onwards. but for today, a bit more of a breeze around than we saw yesterday. because of the breeze, then, there is not so much mist and fog around as we saw yesterday. but still some patches of mist here and there first thing, lifting and clearing very readily through the morning. lots of blue sky and sunshine which we are set to keep for the rest of the day. temperatures once again likely to peak widely in the high 20s, we could get very close to 30 celsius. the uv levels are high. overnight tonight, again, we could see some patches of mist and fog develop, as that wind lightens, some very muggy air coming in. and tomorrow temperatures could get as high perhaps as 31 or even 32 celsius. a very uncomfortably
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warm night for sleeping on wednesday into thursday. that's it for now. lots more on social media including one of the world's largest diamond is now on display in london. i'm back in half an hour. hello. it's tuesday the 5th of september, and we're live at langstone harbour in hampshire, where this morning we're bringing you a special programme talking about a subject that we know matters so much to you — the amount sewage in our water. we'll hear from the water companies, and from the environment secretary. a bbc investigation suggests three major water companies released raw sewage illegally hundreds of times last year. we have got the special programme for you this morning looking at the issues and finding out what can be done to fix it.
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also on cross... is more than 100 schools stay fully or partially closed this week over concrete concerns, questions remain over how many more could be affected. we speak to the schools minister in the next half an hour. the mothers who have fled abroad with their children saying they have been failed by the family court. we have a special report. british hopes in the us open singles are over as jack draper loses to andre rublev at flushing meadows. good morning. iam here in andre rublev at flushing meadows. good morning. i am here in langstone harbourin good morning. i am here in langstone harbour in hampshire. look at that view. it is breezy air this morning. but for most of us it is going to be another dry, sunny and warm day. details later in the programme. it is certainly dry and sunny here in langstone harbour right now. a little bit windy. but we have been
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blessed with blue skies. welcome to portsmouth. it is tuesday, the 5th of september. a special programme this morning. all the day's other news, but we are also focusing on water pollution and sewage because it is something you have been in touch with us a lot about in recent months, it is something that matters to you. we are going to hearfrom the water companies, the environment secretary, from campaigners and from you. this morning we have a bbc investigation. we have found what looks like water companies are legally discharging sewage hundreds of times last year. analysis of data from three of the largest companies — thames, wessex and southern water — found what appears to nearly 400 spills lasting thousands of hours taking place during dry weather. that is the crucial thing here. we know that sewage can be released legally when there is a storm, when there is heavy rain and snowfall.
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but these are cases of so—called dry spilleds, when it is hot and there is no rain or snow. jonah fisher has been investigating. it stinks, but is it legal? raw sewage was released onto england's beaches and into its rivers, more than 300,000 times last year. some of it was allowed, but our analysis of water company data suggests they're regularly breaking the law. rural west sussex and one of southern england's celebrated chalk streams. so here we are. welcome to the river lavant, or as we locally call it, the river lav. the river lav? the river lav. just full of full of effluent. rob, a retired businessman, is notjoking. there would be no river lavant in the summer without the treated discharges from the next door sewage plant. when we came, it was overflowing. so we had the storm overflow coming out here, untreated sewage coming out here. and we came back a few days later,
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it was still going on. a few days later, again, still going on. rob filmed what looks like a white fungus growing on the sewage slick. but why was it spilling? there was no rain on the day the flow began, or on any of the previous three days. rob complained, the environment agency investigated, and though southern water was found to have broken the rules, it was only given a warning. they treat it as a one—off, absolutely. whereas it had been going for probably three to four months, and continued for three to four months afterwards. it is a scandal. over the last few years, the water companies have been forced by the government to report details of when and where they discharge raw sewage. it's only supposed to happen when the system is overwhelmed. after heavy rainfall, or snow. it's not supposed to take place, as it did here, during periods
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of dry weather. so, how common are these dry spells? to find out, the bbc requested details from all nine english water companies. three of the largest complied, providing us with huge amounts of data. we then cross—referenced that with rainfall and found what looks like nearly 400 sewage spills lasting thousands of hours that started during dry weather. any spill that we can verify that's taken place during a dry spill condition would be illegal, against the permit. many of the water companies, like southern water at the lavant, say ground water leaking into cracked pipes is behind some of the spills. thames water apologised for some of theirs. wessex said some of the data they'd given us was flawed. there should never be a dry spill, and any suggestion that there has been one should
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be investigated fully by the environment agency. but i think really enforcement is not the way we're going to fix the ultimate issue, which is to reduce, and ideally eliminate, sewage going into our rivers and seas, which is why we have unveiled an ambitious plan to triple investment so that we can tackle the root cause of the problem, which is an ageing system, a tired system, and a very large system. the environment agency told us it's now working on its largest ever criminal investigation into water companies and their sewage spills. jonah fisher, bbc news. jonah fisher. he joins jonah fisher. hejoins me on the sofa. you have been working on this with your team for months with huge amounts of data to go through? that's right. what we looked at was the granular data from these water companies. we asked all nine of the english water companies who deal with sewage to give us data about exactly when and where there is
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sewage and rainfall spills took place out of these overflow pipes. we then took that data, a huge amount of data, every spill been documented from these three companies that responded, thames water, wessex and a southern water, and we cross referenced that, much cleverer people than me, with very high quality data from the met office to then establish effectively what was going on with the weather on the day the spilleds started, and three days before then. if it came up three days before then. if it came up with a green light for all those three days and on the day of the spill itself, dry, no significant rain, then that is then a dry spilling, according to the analysis we have been doing, and that is when —— how we came up with these figures from the three companies of new hundred —— nearly 400 spills on the one day. hundred -- nearly 400 spills on the one da . ~ , .., hundred -- nearly 400 spills on the oneda. ., , one day. why could that happen? why would that happen _ one day. why could that happen? why would that happen -- _ one day. why could that happen? why would that happen -- have _
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one day. why could that happen? why would that happen -- have to - one day. why could that happen? why| would that happen -- have to happen? would that happen —— have to happen? there are a number of reasons why this might take place. there are a number of reasons why, although it is illegal, and while it might not lead to a prosecution, and one of the reasons that keeps coming up is ground water, high levels of water in the ground effectively forcing water into pipes, which then contributes to sewage systems being overwhelmed and perhaps a spell taking place. it should be pointed out it is still illegal and it is symptomatic of the fact there hasn't been investment in our sewage infrastructure, those cracked pipes are still out there. one of the other water recoveries did point out that the data they had given us was that the data they had given us was that —— was not that great, that it had flaws. various different responses. nobody is contesting the central finding, responses. nobody is contesting the centralfinding, that responses. nobody is contesting the central finding, that there are a significant number of spills taking place. we significant number of spills taking lace. ~ . significant number of spills taking lace, 2 ., ., significant number of spills taking lace. ~ . ., ., , significant number of spills taking lace, 2 ., ., ., , ., place. we are going to put some of that to the — place. we are going to put some of that to the environment _ place. we are going to put some of that to the environment secretary, | that to the environment secretary, therese coffey, later. we will hear from campaigners like feargal
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sharkey as well. what does he make of these findings? and investment— how do we improve the system, and how do we improve the system, and how do we pay for those improvements? i love that are still to come in the special edition of bbc breakfast this morning. right or all of that still to come. there is lots going on elsewhere. back to the studio. thank you. let's find out what else is happening in the news. more than 100 schools — is happening in the news. more than 100 schools will _ is happening in the news. more than 100 schools will remain _ is happening in the news. more than 100 schools will remain fully - is happening in the news. more than 100 schools will remain fully or- 100 schools will remain fully or partially closed this week over crumbling concrete concerns, with questions remaining over how many more could be affected. the education secretary says schools suspected to have raac concrete will be inspected "within weeks,", but around 1500 schools have yet to respond to surveys, causing huge uncertainty for parents and teachers. our correspondent tim muffet has more. raac is a subject dominating the start of the new school term in england. there'll be no lessons at this school in scarborough this week.
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two thirds of the site contains reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. jasmine is in year nine. they've had support beams up for a while holding the school up and theyjust told us that it's a few areas. it is a bit scary now knowing that some things might collapse and it would be scary if it did collapse on us. parents have been told the school will open on monday, but some pupils won't return to classrooms and will either be taught in other schools or at home. our lady's catholic high school in preston will also be closed today because of the presence of raac, a lightweight material widely used in flat roofs between the 1950s and 1990s, about which there are now growing safety concerns. for many parents, following the disruption caused by covid, the new school year could hardly have got off to a worse start. it's frightening because, of course, it's disruptive to the children. henry missed part of year six, part of year seven and online
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lessons for year seven. now, of course, we're startinh year ten, which is gcses. so it's that uncertainty of what's going to now happen. however, nobody wants their children being unsafe. the government says a full list of schools with raac will be published this week, but its response has drawn criticism and has placed the education secretary, gillian keegan, under growing pressure. as these comments after a tv interview yesterday showed. does anyone ever say, "you know what, you've done a bleep good job because everyone else has sat on their bleep", no sign of that? she later apologised for her language. i do understand, by the way, the frustration for parents and for children, but safety has to come first and when you have that happening, you have to act on it. now i need everybody else to, you know, to give me all the information i need so i can make sure that we can mitigate the situation and minimise the disruption on children's education. the government has also ordered urgent tests on courts built
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in the 1990s after dangerous concrete was found at harrow crown court in north london. it was closed last month as a result. and the university of dundee has warned that replacing unsafe concrete in its buildings will cost millions of pounds. raac has been found in at least 24 university and college buildings in scotland. structural engineers are warning there are no quick fixes ahead. it is extremely difficult because the records are so poor and so in reality it has to rely on people who know what they're looking for making visits to all the buildings where this possibly exists, and that's buildings, any building constructed between the end of the war, 1950—ish through to the early 1990s, and then focusing on locations within the building which have got flat roofs and going into the room below the roof. schools in scotland, wales and northern ireland are also
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being assessed for raac. the scottish government has said it is present in 35 council run schools. the welsh government said two schools on anglesey, which had been due to open for the autumn term today, would be closed temporarily. tim muffett, bbc news. let's get the latest now from our chief political correspondent henry zeffman. henry, this story doesn't look like it is going away any time soon for rishi sunak?— it is going away any time soon for rishi sunak? that's right. cabinet ministers are _ rishi sunak? that's right. cabinet ministers are going _ rishi sunak? that's right. cabinet ministers are going to _ rishi sunak? that's right. cabinet ministers are going to start - ministers are going to start arriving _ ministers are going to start arriving soon behind me for this we can pass _ arriving soon behind me for this we can pass nry— arriving soon behind me for this we can pass my cabinet meeting. and i don't _ can pass my cabinet meeting. and i don't think— can pass my cabinet meeting. and i don't think there are many people who will— don't think there are many people who will be sitting around that table — who will be sitting around that table who won't be concerned this is going _ table who won't be concerned this is going to _ table who won't be concerned this is going to end up on their plates as well, _ going to end up on their plates as well, because we know this is a big problem _ well, because we know this is a big problem in — well, because we know this is a big problem in schools and the government is going to publish the list of— government is going to publish the list of schools affected later this week _ list of schools affected later this week. but i don't think anyone now thinks _ week. but i don't think anyone now thinks that— week. but i don't think anyone now thinks that when that list gets published it will be the full extent
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of the _ published it will be the full extent of the problem. we have learned that the ministry forjustice has ordered an urgent— the ministry forjustice has ordered an urgent review of some chords that they previously thought were safe, but now _ they previously thought were safe, but now there are concerns that some of them _ but now there are concerns that some of them might have this particular kind of— of them might have this particular kind of concrete. —— accords. we know _ kind of concrete. —— accords. we know the — kind of concrete. —— accords. we know the right issues in prisons and defence _ know the right issues in prisons and defence buildings. there is a sense in westminster now that something has been _ in westminster now that something has been unleashed the government might— has been unleashed the government might find _ has been unleashed the government might find very hard to control. that _ might find very hard to control. that is— might find very hard to control. that is a — might find very hard to control. that is a problem for rishi sunak. firstly— that is a problem for rishi sunak. firstly because it could disrupt lots of — firstly because it could disrupt lots of people's lives, of course. but also — lots of people's lives, of course. but also politically because rishi sunak— but also politically because rishi sunak is— but also politically because rishi sunak is god maybe a year or so to turn it— sunak is god maybe a year or so to turn it around and try to find a way to stay— turn it around and try to find a way to stay in— turn it around and try to find a way to stay in office. —— has got maybe a year~ _ to stay in office. —— has got maybe a year~ he — to stay in office. —— has got maybe a year. he needs to be seen to grip this but— a year. he needs to be seen to grip this but it _ a year. he needs to be seen to grip this but it is — a year. he needs to be seen to grip this but it is very hard when he doesn't — this but it is very hard when he doesn't even know the full extent of the problem. thank you for now. the problem. thank ou for now. 2, , thank you for now. the government is exected thank you for now. the government is expected to — thank you for now. the government is expected to announce _ thank you for now. the government is expected to announce a _ thank you for now. the government is expected to announce a change - thank you for now. the government is expected to announce a change to - expected to announce a change to planning rules in england to make it
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easierfor the planning rules in england to make it easier for the developers to build onshore wind turbines as long as there is community support for the project. there is community support for the ro'ect. ~ , , .,. there is community support for the ro'ect. ~ , , ., project. ministers were facing a backbench _ project. ministers were facing a backbench rebellion _ project. ministers were facing a backbench rebellion on - project. ministers were facing a backbench rebellion on their i project. ministers were facing a - backbench rebellion on their energy bills from supporters of onshore wind. labour is already committed to changing the planning system to encourage more onshore wind power generation. the mother and father of a man shot dead by police a year ago say the wait to hear whether the officer involved will face criminal charges is agonising. the involved will face criminal charges is agonising— involved will face criminal charges is aonisin. , ., ., ., is agonising. the 24-year-old father to be died after— is agonising. the 24-year-old father to be died after being _ is agonising. the 24-year-old father to be died after being shot _ is agonising. the 24-year-old father to be died after being shot in - is agonising. the 24-year-old father to be died after being shot in the - to be died after being shot in the south london a year ago today. chris kaba's family has accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency in making a decision over the case. the white house says the north korean leader, kimjong—un, is planning to visit russia's vladimir putin. moscow is hoping to discuss weapon supplies for its war in ukraine. it is not the first time
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moscow has asked the north koreans for munitions. the first lady of the united states, jill biden, has tested positive for covid. the white house says she is experiencing only mild symptoms and president bitan has tested negative. the national television awards will be returning to our screens tonight. and on deck or are once again up for best presenter having been nominated for the last 21 years. despite a year of controversy, itv�*s this morning has been nominated for best daytime show. in one of our documentaries is up for an award, rob burrow, living with mnd, has made the final shortlist in the documentary category, alongside deborah james, documentary category, alongside deborahjames, matt willis and lewis capaldi. the winners are decided by the public. so much good stuff to watch. you can still vote or by visiting the website, nationaltv
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still vote or by visiting the website, national tv awards. voting is open now. website, national tv awards. voting is open now— is open now. hurry, closes at midday- _ is open now. hurry, closes at midday. 7:17am _ is open now. hurry, closes at midday. 7:17am is _ is open now. hurry, closes at midday. 7:17am is the - is open now. hurry, closes at midday. 7:17am is the time. | is open now. hurry, closes at - midday. 7:17am is the time. now the weatherfrom midday. 7:17am is the time. now the weather from carol midday. 7:17am is the time. now the weatherfrom carol in midday. 7:17am is the time. now the weather from carol in langstone harbour. on the beach. , �* harbour. onthe beach. , �* ., ., on the beach. isn't it glorious? look at my _ on the beach. isn't it glorious? look at my view _ on the beach. isn't it glorious? look at my view over _ on the beach. isn't it glorious? look at my view over the - on the beach. isn't it glorious? | look at my view over the space. on the beach. isn't it glorious? - look at my view over the space. the sky is blue, the sun is out, there's not even a cloud in the sky. the breeze has eased a bit as well. not quite as cool as it was earlier. the temperature knocking on the door between 19 and 20 degrees. to the forecast for us all is one of the early patchy mist, that will lift, most of us having a dry, sunny and warm day. what is happening is we have got the mist and fog across parts of yorkshire, lincolnshire and east anglia. that will lift quite quickly. we have some showers into cornwall, devon, pushing towards, for example, pembrokeshire, as we go through the day. a lot of dry, sunny
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and warm conditions. the weak weather front in the far north of scotland for the last few days is continuing to break up. still you can see a wee bit of drizzle getting into caithness as we go through the afternoon, particularly with temperatures widely in the mid to high 20s. locally in the south—east... this evening and overnight at the low cloud and mist coming in from the north sea to eastern scotland and north—east england... towards the west we will have clearer skies. it is not going to be a cold night. tomorrow, the mist and fog pushes back towards the north sea. a lot of dry and sunny conditions for most. low cloud moving up the north sea and also the irish sea. temperatures getting to the mid to high 20s and locally up to 31, possibly 32 degrees, somewhere in the south—east. but it
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will turn increasingly humid. as we go through wednesday night into thursday, it is going to be humid and it is also going to be humid on thursday, and still quite hot. it is not until later in the weekend we think this weather will start to break down the north. carol, as you speak, children are putting on their school uniforms and groaning is they hear you say that, now the holidays are over, we have this lovely weather. thank you. it is lovely to be here in portsmouth in the sunshine, talking about water. water quality, pollution. yes, about sewage. what we can do to try to improve water quality. zoe conway has been looking at the water industry. it is more than 30 years ago since water was privatised here in england. she has been looking at who owns what and who is going to pay for any future investment. in 1989, england and wales became the only countries
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in the world to fully privatise their water companies. more than two million people bought shares. the message is on its way. you can be an h2 owner. britain has some of the filthiest rivers in europe. in flagrant breach of the law... the river rother in yorkshire. at the time of privatisation, the rivers were so polluted britain was known as the dirty man of europe. the water industry says that the waterways are much less polluted than they were 30 years ago, and they say that's thanks to around £200 billion worth of investment by the water companies, spending that simply wouldn't have happened if it had been left to the government, they argue. the question is, could they — should they — have invested so much more?
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the water companies were expected to borrow money to pay for investment in the ageing infrastructure. they certainly borrowed the money. but where did it all go? take a look at this graph. the red line shows water company borrowing rising dramatically since privatisation. they're currently more than £60 billion in debt. now look at the blue line along the bottom. that's how much money has been spent over the same period on capital expenditure, on fixing things like the pipe network, or building reservoirs. meanwhile, £74 billion has been paid to shareholders since privatisation, and millions has gone on bosses�* pay. £60 million was spent on pay and bonuses in the last five years. and just who is on the hook for paying the interest on all of this debt?
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customers. interest has to be paid on the debt, and the interest amounts to millions of pounds. and that's all financed by our bills. so we have an increased cost because we're having to service this debt that companies have built up. another dimension to the debt issue is that it creates a vulnerability in companies that are highly indebted. and we need companies to be able to spend more on investment to deal with our sewage situation. and this is more of a problem where companies have built up such high levels of debt. welsh water is now a not for profit company. in england, critics of the industry say water company decisions are made too much in the interests of offshore investors. the overwhelming majority of england's water companies are foreign owned. owners include the governments of china and qatar, via their sovereign wealth funds, private equity firms, businesses based in offshore tax havens, foreign banks and canadian and australian pension funds.
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the organisation responsible for monitoring the companies is ofwat. do you accept that ofwat should have done a betterjob of regulating these companies over the last 30 years? we accept there is learning, and we accept that our regime needs to evolve to meet future challenges and address some of those learning points. we have bolstered our resources, increased our powers so that we can address concerns — for example, bonuses, payments to executives, where those are not warranted, and payments to shareholders, where, again, they are not warranted. what everyone's agreed on is that billions of pounds needs to be spent on modernising the sewage system. what's rather less popular, ultimately, the cost will be met by higher bills. zoe conway, bbc news.
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in the meantime we are asking about the current state of our water and what is in it. we arejoined here on the sofa by rob bailey, a citizen scientist, and professor alex foord, from the university of portsmouth. what work do you do here? we from the university of portsmouth. what work do you do here?- what work do you do here? we do environmental _ what work do you do here? we do environmental research _ what work do you do here? we do environmental research that - what work do you do here? we do j environmental research that spans around the world. but more recently, and unfortunately, there has been a focus on our doorstep. this is an amazing location for us to teach are my students and hopefully generate the next generation of environmental scientists to help the planet. yes. scientists to help the planet. yes, uuite a scientists to help the planet. yes, quite a classroom. _ scientists to help the planet. yes, quite a classroom. don't - scientists to help the planet. yes, quite a classroom. don't know if i fancied in february but glad to be doing it this morning on a sunny day in september. you talk about on your doorstep, what have you found in the water, as an example? this
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doorstep, what have you found in the water, as an example?— water, as an example? this year there have _ water, as an example? this year there have been _ water, as an example? this year there have been close _ water, as an example? this year there have been close to - water, as an example? this year there have been close to a - water, as an example? this year - there have been close to a thousand hours of sewage discharges into this marine protected area right here. the hydrology of this place means that north of us is southern water's largest sewage treatment firm. when it rains it can't cope with the sewage. it discharges that strayed into here. 2 2 , sewage. it discharges that strayed into here. 2 . , ., . sewage. it discharges that strayed into here. 2 2 , ., . , into here. which is legal, which is the way the _ into here. which is legal, which is the way the system _ into here. which is legal, which is the way the system works? - into here. which is legal, which isj the way the system works? yeah, into here. which is legal, which is- the way the system works? yeah, one ofthe the way the system works? yeah, one of the things — the way the system works? yeah, one of the things about _ the way the system works? yeah, one of the things about dry _ the way the system works? yeah, one of the things about dry spillings, - of the things about dry spillings, if you are a face you don't differentiate between legal and non—illegal spills. they are harmful, irrespective. a. non-illegal spills. they are harmful, irrespective. a dry spell is when there _ harmful, irrespective. a dry spell is when there is _ harmful, irrespective. a dry spell is when there is a _ harmful, irrespective. a dry spell is when there is a release - harmful, irrespective. a dry spell is when there is a release on - harmful, irrespective. a dry spell is when there is a release on a i harmful, irrespective. a dry spell| is when there is a release on a dry sunny day like today. in terms of what we are talking about, pollution and sewage, it is notjust sewage you are concerned about? that sewage contains many — you are concerned about? that sewage contains many different _ you are concerned about? that sewage contains many different chemicals, - contains many different chemicals, the pharmaceuticals, the detergents were using or washing machines,
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shampoo, shower gel, the chemicals that come off our clothing, they all come out with that sewage. they unfortunately ended up in our wildlife. 2, unfortunately ended up in our wildlife. . ,. , wildlife. rather, i described you as a citizen scientist _ wildlife. rather, i described you as a citizen scientist because - wildlife. rather, i described you as a citizen scientist because you - wildlife. rather, i described you as a citizen scientist because you and | a citizen scientist because you and other local people go out and do your own analysis?— other local people go out and do your own analysis? that's right. i was a sea — your own analysis? that's right. i was a sea swim _ your own analysis? that's right. i was a sea swim in _ your own analysis? that's right. i was a sea swim in these - your own analysis? that's right. i l was a sea swim in these harbours. the 5000 — was a sea swim in these harbours. the 5000 acres you see here is a third _ the 5000 acres you see here is a third of— the 5000 acres you see here is a third of this _ the 5000 acres you see here is a third of this. it goes further into chichester— third of this. it goes further into chichester harbour. i have given up sea swimming because of what we found _ sea swimming because of what we found in— sea swimming because of what we found in the water. i don't swim any more _ found in the water. i don't swim any more. 2 2, 2, found in the water. i don't swim any more. 2 . ., ., more. what have you found in the water? with _ more. what have you found in the water? with alex's _ more. what have you found in the water? with alex's help _ more. what have you found in the water? with alex's help we - more. what have you found in the water? with alex's help we did i more. what have you found in the water? with alex's help we did al water? with alex's help we did a water? with alex's help we did a water monitoring _ water? with alex's help we did a water monitoring programme - water? with alex's help we did a - water monitoring programme looking at 22 sites. _ water monitoring programme looking at 22 sites, taking 350 samples. the group _ at 22 sites, taking 350 samples. the group has _ at 22 sites, taking 350 samples. the group has grown to about 40,000 people _ group has grown to about 40,000 people. we are called the clean harbours — people. we are called the clean harbours partnership. we sponsored a scientific— harbours partnership. we sponsored a scientific research study with alex to look— scientific research study with alex to look at — scientific research study with alex to look at what is in the water. and
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we found _ to look at what is in the water. and we found pharmaceuticals, recreational drugs, pesticides, just over 50 _ recreational drugs, pesticides, just over 50 of— recreational drugs, pesticides, just over 50 of those. it is recreational drugs, pesticides, 'ust over 50 of thosei over 50 of those. it is sewage that lives the over 50 of those. it is sewage that gives the headline, _ over 50 of those. it is sewage that gives the headline, the _ over 50 of those. it is sewage that gives the headline, the attention, | gives the headline, the attention, and makes us all feel queasy. but i suppose there are things that we can all throw down the toilet that would improve some that, yeah? absolutely. as alex is very — improve some that, yeah? absolutely. as alex is very good _ improve some that, yeah? absolutely. as alex is very good at _ improve some that, yeah? absolutely. as alex is very good at saying, - improve some that, yeah? absolutely. as alex is very good at saying, it - as alex is very good at saying, it is the _ as alex is very good at saying, it is the things we can't see that do the damage. we are not worried about sewage _ the damage. we are not worried about sewage and _ the damage. we are not worried about sewage and essence. it is what is in it. sewage and essence. it is what is in it as _ sewage and essence. it is what is in it. as humans we only die just part of what _ it. as humans we only die just part of what is — it. as humans we only die just part of what is in — it. as humans we only die just part of what is in our bodies. and it. as humans we only die 'ust part of what is in our bodies._ of what is in our bodies. and you see a day — of what is in our bodies. and you see a day when _ of what is in our bodies. and you see a day when you _ of what is in our bodies. and you see a day when you are - of what is in our bodies. and you see a day when you are back - of what is in our bodies. and you see a day when you are back in l of what is in our bodies. and you l see a day when you are back in the water swimming see a day when you are back in the waterswimming again?! see a day when you are back in the waterswimming again? i really see a day when you are back in the water swimming again? i really hope so. �* ., y water swimming again? i really hope so. �* ., , , so. i'm not confident yet but it seems to _ so. i'm not confident yet but it seems to be — so. i'm not confident yet but it seems to be the _ so. i'm not confident yet but it seems to be the tide - so. i'm not confident yet but it seems to be the tide is - so. i'm not confident yet but it| seems to be the tide is turning. so. i'm not confident yet but it i seems to be the tide is turning. i like seems to be the tide is turning. like what seems to be the tide is turning. i like what you did there. alex, what about you in terms of the future? the water companies, the government, so they are investing, making improvements, but in some cases water quality has never been better. what do you say? they set their
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target of 2050, which is quite a long way away. it would be better if they could be done quicker. the other thing, the legislation where it says progressively reduce pollution, it would have been better if there was a more fixed target because that gives the water companies i get out ofjail card, if you like. as long as they show they are progressively producing, however small, that they are then compliant. thank you both are chatting to us, thank you for having us on your roof this morning. we will hearfrom thank you for having us on your roof this morning. we will hear from the water company is, the environment agency, therese coffey, the environment secretary, is the programme goes on. lots more to come on bbc breakfast letter. now, the news, weather and travel where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. the family of a man shot dead by police in south london say it's "unbelieveable" they're still waiting to hear if the officer involved will face charges. it's now a year since chris kaba
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died after his car was followed by police in streatham hill. his parents have accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency. the cps said it doesn't "provide timescales for charging decisions" and is "carefully considering the evidence". there is no family, there is no life for us. not for myself, my wife, not for my kids. no more life, not for my family, not for chris's friends. everyone you see, they're all thinking about chris. new data shows the use of drones by police in the south east is on the rise. the so called "eyes in the sky" can help to catch criminals, and improve safety at events. thames valley police now deploys them around 1,500 times a year and were recently used at reading festival. the founder of the orginal kiss fm is being inducted into the music walk of fame in camden. gordon mac set it up in 1985, originally as a pirate station.
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it helped launched the careers of djs including trevor nelson and norman jay. 950 london men all taking part in weekly football sessions. nothing remarkable about that you might think until you hear that between them they've lost three tonnes of fat. it's all part of a fitness plan called man vs fat football which combines sport with healthy lifestyle coaching. since joining man vs fat football, i have made a massive achievement. i've lost a lot of weight, i've reversed my diabetes, i feel a lot healthier, both physically and mentally. travel now and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. minor delays on thejubilee line westbound only due to a shortage of trains. a good service on all other lines. and now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. the sunshine and the heat are both likely to continue as we go
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through the rest of this week. high pressure dominates, and there's some very warm air coming in from the near continent on a south—easterly wind. it will start to feel a lot more muggy and humid from tomorrow onwards. but for today, a bit more of a breeze around than we saw yesterday. because of the breeze, then, there is not so much mist and fog around as we saw yesterday. but still some patches of mist here and there first thing, lifting and clearing very readily through the morning. lots of blue sky and sunshine which we are set to keep for the rest of the day. temperatures once again likely to peak widely in the high 20s, we could get very close to 30 celsius. the uv levels are high. overnight tonight, again, we could see some patches of mist and fog develop, as that wind lightens, some very muggy air coming in. and tomorrow temperatures could get as high perhaps as 31 or even 32 celsius. a very uncomfortably warm night for sleeping on wednesday into thursday. lots more on social media including one of the world's largest diamonds now on display in london. i'm back in half an hour.
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hello, this is breakfast with tina daheley and ben boulos in the studio, and jon kay in langstone harbour in hampshire. so the controversy over unsafe concrete in schools shows no sign of going away. more than 100 schools are confirmed to have the crumbly raac concrete, and the education secretary has admitted there could be hundreds more. let's try to get to the bottom of this now. we're joined now by the schools minister, nick gibb. mrgibb, we know mr gibb, we know more than 100 schools are affected, your boss expressed frustration that 5% of schools contacted still haven't responded to try and establish whether they have this concrete. what is the update on that, have they got back to you yet? thea;r what is the update on that, have they got back to you yet? they are cominu they got back to you yet? they are coming in- — they got back to you yet? they are coming in- she _ they got back to you yet? they are coming in. she was _ they got back to you yet? they are coming in. she was frustrated, - they got back to you yet? they are coming in. she was frustrated, we| coming in. she was frustrated, we have started these questionnaires in
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march 2022. the vast majority of schools have responded, 95% have responded and from those questionnaires, the vast majority did not identify any raac in their schools. those who did suspect bits, we sent in surveyors and two thirds didn't have any raac. we now know that 156 schools have raac, in 52 we have already taken action where the raac was regarded as critical. what happened over the summer is we were proactively seeking more evidence about the safety of raac, we discovered two schools where there had been some beams that have fallen, as a consequence, which had not read regarded as critical, so we took the only decision that any sensible it would take is to then change the guidance says that even noncritical raac will be taken out of use. 2 2, noncritical raac will be taken out of use. 2 . , ., ., ., of use. we have been told that a full definitive _ of use. we have been told that a full definitive list _ of use. we have been told that a full definitive list will _ of use. we have been told that a full definitive list will be - full definitive list will be published and it could be hundreds of schools affected, when will we
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get that list? the of schools affected, when will we get that list?— get that list? the list of 156 schools will _ get that list? the list of 156 schools will be _ get that list? the list of 156 schools will be published i get that list? the list of 156 | schools will be published this get that list? the list of 156 - schools will be published this week. we want to make sure that the schools had an opportunity to contact the parents first before releasing it to the media, and make sure that the information about this, notjust a simple list, names of schools, it's about what has happened in their schools, we wanted to make sure that the information is accurate and once we are sure it is accurate, then we will be able to release it. t accurate, then we will be able to release it— release it. i know you said personally _ release it. i know you said personally you _ release it. i know you said personally you would - release it. i know you said personally you would be i release it. i know you said - personally you would be happy for your nieces and nephews to sit in the classroom with beams propping up the classroom with beams propping up the ceiling. it's a very personal decision. what would you say to parents who would say, i'm not happy with my child going and sitting in a classroom like that i'm going to keep them at home? we classroom like that i'm going to keep them at home?— classroom like that i'm going to keep them at home? we are one of the most proactive — keep them at home? we are one of the most proactive governments _ keep them at home? we are one of the most proactive governments in - keep them at home? we are one of the most proactive governments in the - most proactive governments in the world in terms of dealing with raac. backin world in terms of dealing with raac. back in 2018, we should detailed warning notice and guidance responsible bodies and we asked them to monitor and identify a raac in
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their schools, to monitor it and use a structural survey to identify it and monitor it and where they are worried about it, to take the classroom out of use or use other mechanisms to make it safe. we have been monitoring the evidence about raac since then and revise our guidance on a couple of occasions. t guidance on a couple of occasions. i appreciate that but if parents are not happy with their children going into a classroom like that, would they be punished for keeping children at home? tt they be punished for keeping children at home?— they be punished for keeping children at home? if they have got concerns about _ children at home? if they have got concerns about the _ children at home? if they have got concerns about the child's - children at home? if they have got concerns about the child's safety l concerns about the child's safety they should raise it with the school to see if they are satisfied with what school is doing. we giving very detailed support to —— guidance to schools. the vast majority of schools, 22,000 schools and only 156 have raac identified, and the vast majority of the questionnaires have come back and, i am again confirming that there is no raac in their schools. if you think about the estate, only schools that are built
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or extended between the 50s and 90s, half of all schools were either built before or after that date. parents can be reassured that responsible local authorities, trusts, dioceses, to take the safety of their building very seriously. t of their building very seriously. i want to get your thoughts on comments by the head of the public spending watchdog, the national audit office, talking about the costs involved in this. he said that the government is now wasting money on emergency repairs because it neglected to do the unflashyjob of keeping buildings usable, do you accept that criticism? tia. keeping buildings usable, do you accept that criticism?— keeping buildings usable, do you accept that criticism? no, we take any official — accept that criticism? no, we take any official report _ accept that criticism? no, we take any official report from _ accept that criticism? no, we take any official report from the - any official report from the national audit office very seriously but this is an op—ed article. we are spending £1.8 billion a year on school maintenance, and improvements, £15 billion to since 2015 so we take maintenance very
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seriously. we are in the middle of a very big school refurbishment and rebuilding programme, 500 schools between 2020 and 2030. since we came into office we have had 260 schools rebuilt or refurbished in the first five years, then another 270 in the second five years. so we do take both the maintenance very seriously and we take rebuilding schools that are in the worst condition seriously. we are the first government to have conducted two full surveys of the whole school estate so we know whether west schools in the worst condition are and we can —— where the worst schools are and we can target the spending, not what was happening in previous government before 2010. the recommendations after this came to light some years ago, the concerns around the concrete that was in use, where that hundreds of schools would need to be rebuilt each year. it was nowhere near that number that this
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government decided to go ahead with rebuilding. so some responsibility doesn't rely with the current government, does it not? —— doesn't it rely with the current government? schools have had issues with the fabric of buildings so we have had the condition surveys to identify in order of priority is the schools that needed to be rebuilt first. 50 schools per year, far more than that were being built in previous governments under the programme which was deeply wasteful in the way it conducted itself. we set out to identify on the raac issue, where it is on the school estate, being very proactive. and we have issued clear guidance from 2018 onwards to schools about the importance and danger of raac, how to identify it, using a survey if necessary and how to monitor it to make sure it remains safe. and during the summer we have got new evidence that
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actually even raac which is looking safe is not critical, we now think to be cautious, we can be accused of being over cautious. because we want to make sure children are safe, we are taking those buildings out of use. �* are taking those buildings out of use. . , ., are taking those buildings out of use. �* y ., . , are taking those buildings out of use. . ,., use. are you as frustrated as your boss gillian _ use. are you as frustrated as your boss gillian keegan _ use. are you as frustrated as your boss gillian keegan clearly - use. are you as frustrated as your boss gillian keegan clearly is - use. are you as frustrated as your boss gillian keegan clearly is by l boss gillian keegan clearly is by this? she was caught making an ofgod comment yesterday while still on microphone, still on camera, would you express your frustration in a similar way?— you express your frustration in a similarwa ? , , ., . , similar way? this is an off-the-cuff comment and _ similar way? this is an off-the-cuff comment and she _ similar way? this is an off-the-cuff comment and she has _ similar way? this is an off-the-cuff comment and she has apologised l similar way? this is an off-the-cuff. comment and she has apologised with the language used to. he was frustrated about the questioning. i am frustrated about your questioning. she was frustrated about the questioning —— i am not frustrated about your question, it was mine. she was frustrated because she knows how hard civil servants have been working on this raac, being more proactive than every
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government, sending engineers to schools who have had problems to identify what is happening with raac and making important decisions on how to handle this issue in the 156 schools where we have identified raac. ., ~ schools where we have identified raac. thank you for 'oining us. it is 7:41am. * yesterday we reported on dozens of children forced into contact with fathers accused of abuse in our family courts. today we're going to hear from mothers who've fled abroad abducting their children. all say they were victims of domestic abuse and were failed by the family courts. of domestic abuse and were failed by our special correspondent ed thomas reports from turkish—controlled northern cyprus where many of the mothers fled to. we should warn that you might find some of what you hear distressing. victims of domestic violence. i was raped. family court just didn't listen.
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hidden, and on the run. if i'd stayed in england, i'd be dead. it was state sanctioned abuse. for the first time, mothers who fled uk family courts, abducting their children tell their stories. i was abused by that court, as well as my husband. when i left him there was a campaign of abuse. i was stalked. i was harassed. rose, not her real name, was the first to tell her story. my daughter, she'd come back with bruises, all documented. and when your child says, "mummy, daddy's hurting me", it breaks you. rose's story highlights complex family court cases. her partner was never convicted of a crime, but we've seen multiple police reports written at the time that said she was at risk of domestic abuse. i was referred to victim support. i broke court orders on the advice of the police, but the court wanted contact at all costs. rose has never been accused of physically harming her child, but she was accused of alienating her ex.
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the court said, if you don't send your child, we're going to remove her. and they did. the concept parental alienation is controversial. there are calls for it to be banned. and we've learnt the government is investigating its use in our family courts. we can't move from here. we are safe, but in a type of prison. and rose isn't alone. we've been told dozens of women, victims of domestic abuse, have fled ukfamily courts, and many are now hiding in turkish—controlled northern cyprus. we made the same journey to ask why. i'd face bursts of anger. that's when alarm bells started to go off. i'd be manhandled, left full of bruises. in all, i made about 50 separate phone calls to the police. this mum, we're calling suzanne, fled after a decade of family court hearings. i was in and out of court all the time, it got so bad. over 120 appearances. the bbc has seen multiple police
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reports detailing domestic abuse against suzanne. i was going to have a breakdown. i was literally screaming in my head. health professionals said she was suffering trauma, but suzanne was accused of alienation. i was not listened to. my child was not listened to. it was state sanctioned abuse. some of the mothers risk prosecution for child abduction. some have had their bank accounts frozen, and been placed on interpol no—fly lists. hi, are you ok? we spent months building up trust to tell their stories. so that's another mother. she's really, really nervous. she is frightened, and she doesn't know whether or not she's going to speak to us. those who did open up to us would only speak anonymously, and if we change their voices. i was handing my child to an abuser. i couldn't do it any more.
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this mother says her child became suicidal. the judge made the decision that i was parental alienating him from his dad. i was told i was the abuser. but should you have stayed in england? i had to go. i watched my son's childhood disappear. the women who i've met here, who have fled from the uk, are terrified. mina atla is a turkish cypriot lawyer, who represents many domestic abuse victims. these women are being failed in their countries. they need to be offered some kind of amnesty, and there needs to be a path to safety for these women and their children. she says many are running from allegations of parental alienation. it's not child abduction, it's not parentalalienation, it's domestic violence, it's child abuse. many of the mothers we spoke to acknowledged they've broken the law. it's so difficult. i left my family, my friends. i've lost everything. after suffering years of coercive control, this mum said the family court became an extension of that abuse.
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the court should be trying to understand why women give up everything to flee just to protect the kids. the basic need of a child is to be protected, and we can't even do that in the uk. the domestic abuse commissioner said the cases uncovered by the bbc were harrowing, and there was a need for urgent reform of the family courts. in response to our report, the government said it's investigating the use of parental alienation, but that it takes international child abduction very seriously. ed thomas, bbc news. for more on this story, head to iplayer to watch the documentary "mums on the run: failed by the family court". and if you've been affected by any of the issues mentioned, please visit the bbc action line for support. carol is at langstone harbour for us this morning with the weather.
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let's get the sport of somebody from jack draper. yes, this —— oodles of self belief from jack draper. yes, this time we last week we were talking about the seven people in the uk who are in the us open, and now we are down to just one who is now we are down to just one who is now out, pe has had a lot of fitness issues and he could go into some of the big grand slams. he has had a lot of fitness issues. jack draper believes he can become one of the best players in the world. he lost to andre rublev but said if he can resolve his fitness issues that paid him in the early part of his career, he can beat the very best on his day.
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he belongs here, doesn't he? jack draper has the game for the business week of a grand slam, to push the best players. that's been clear in new york. it was again in the fourth round. his opponent, andrey rublev, seeded eight, took the first set. he's an extravagant shot maker. he's also an emotional roller—coaster. witness his reaction when a double fault helped draper to win the second set. in the third, there were some ice cool winners from the british player. he led for a while. back came rublev with a decisive run of games to change the dynamics, to take the set, and to shift his own mentality. big moment for andrey rublev. in the fourth, draper was tiring. that was hardly surprising. he'd had no preparation for the tournament, was pleased just to be fit enough to play it. now finally defeated. i have barely played any tennis this year, really. i think i have played ten
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tournaments and i have in multiple of them. i have still improved physically, i still honestly believe that and i think it does show on court but at the same time, i need more match exposure at this high level to be able to come to these tournaments and feel like i can really cope forfour hours. like any player, draper needs to stay fit, but his rivals recognise a contender. joe wilson, bbc news. the defending champion carlos alcaraz is into his third consecutive us open quarterfinal as he continues his title defence. he beat italian matteo arnaldi, and looked good on the hard court, to set up a last—eight tie with alexander zverev. that's after he beat jannik sinner in a five set thriller in the last hour. we've seen some shocks in the women's draw with the top seed iga swiatek going out. and now the wimbledon finalist
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ons jabeur�*s been knocked out by china's zheng qinwen in the last 16. the third seed jessica pegula also out losing to the american madison keys in straight sets. one of the favourites, pegula left disapointed, but did manage to pick herself up, progressing to the women's quarter finals alongside coco gauff in the doubles. the manchester united winger antony has been dropped by brazil, following allegations of abuse by his former girlfriend. the brazilian football federation said the 23—year—old had been withdrawn from the squad after "facts became public" that "need to be investigated". police in sao paulo and greater manchester are investigating the claims, which the player has denied. manchester united said they have no comment on the matter at present when they were contacted by bbc sport. less than four weeks to go until the ryder cup begins and we
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know now who will make up team europe as they aim to win back the famous trophy for team usa. captain luke donald has named his six wild card picks and they surprisingly include ludvig aberg. the 23—year—old only turned professional injune but did win the european masters on sunday and will now make his ryder cup debut. he has been called a generational talent. very different playing on your own as it is in the team environment, and dealing with the crowds as well is no easy matter. you want some of that energy there. only 23, that's impressive. carol is at langstone harbour for us this morning with the weather. how is it looking, carol? pretty spectacular, good morning,
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everybody. you can see the marine biologists who have been gusting their net, doing a fish survey here, they are counting and measuring the fish and they will use the data they get, to see how the habitat is changing. the sun is beating down, it is breezy today, patchy mist and fog is lifting and then we will have a dry, sunny and warm day for the bulk of the uk. we have high pressure across us, low pressure pressure across us, low pressure across pressure across us, low pressure across siberia, and we are pulling in south—westerly breezes in between. that is pulling in saharan dust so some spectacular sunrises and sunsets to come. the low cloud we have got in east anglia will burn away, most of us having sunshine, some showers across the south—west getting into pembrokeshire later on in the day, and a weak weather front is draped across the far north of scotland could produce the odd spot
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of drizzle later. in the sunshine and temperatures rising widely at the mid to high 20s, locally in the south—east we could hit 30 or 31. later in the day, more low cloud mist and fog will lap onshore in north—east england and eastern scotland, and overnight that will progress further west. in the west itself it should remain dry and clear. it is going to be a mild night, temperatures widely in double figures. we start tomorrow on that note, the low cloud, mist and fog in the east pushing back towards the north sea through the course of the day. we could see some low cloud moving up the irish sea through the course of the day but in between, dry weather and sunshine. it will be turning increasingly humid as we go through the day. tomorrow's top temperatures could be 31 or 32, somewhere in the south—east. widely we are looking at the mid to high 20s. on thursday, a little bit of a
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change, in the west we could see some thundery downpours, they will be fairly isolated but they will be there. foremost, it will be another dry, humidity following on from the humid night. it could get up to 32 in the south—east but we are looking at the mid to high 20s widely. so, still a lot of warm weather on the horizon but as you were saying, jon, just as the schools go back, typical! i know, but at least you have got the best spot on the beach, lounge out and tell out, i will be down there as soon as we finish the programme! t there as soon as we finish the programme!— there as soon as we finish the programme! there as soon as we finish the rouramme! . ., , programme! i have bagged our spaces, jon! typical. — programme! i have bagged our spaces, jon! typical. typical- — programme! i have bagged our spaces, jon! typical. typical- we _ programme! i have bagged our spaces, jon! typical, typical. we will— programme! i have bagged our spaces, jon! typical, typical. we will be - jon! typical, typical. we will be back with carol _ jon! typical, typical. we will be back with carol later. _ jon! typical, typical. we will be back with carol later. we - jon! typical, typical. we will be back with carol later. we have l jon! typical, typical. we will be | back with carol later. we have a special programme looking at the issues of water pollution and sewage. sometimes a difficult
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subject to talk about, the pictures can be grim but we know from our inbox, you care deeply about it and you have got lots of questions. we have a special half an hour at 8am on that. we have come to langstone harbour, a mile from the centre of portsmouth, overlooking the solent, this spit of land is where marine scientists are beneath us in this building. we have chichester harbour behind me, and on the other side we have ailing island ferry nipping backwards and forwards, and of course the lifeboats. the harbour is waking up this morning. this is a perfect place to come to talk to local people about why water quality matters, what their concerns are and what they would like to see happen in the future. i have been out and about talking to swimmers, and sailors, on a day that wasn't quite as nice as today! these landscapes, they're not ours. we walk through them for the duration of our lives and leave them for the next generation.
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when i walk on these marshes, i think of the romans and the tudors and the victorians and me with my hand in my father and mother's hand, and me with my children and now me with my grandson. even in the pouring rain, kate mosse loves this stretch of coast. the reed beds of fishbourne have inspired some of her best selling novels. these creeks are where kate played as a child, and she still lives nearby. but she tells me she can see the waterways changing because she says the sewers can no longer cope. that's the treatment plant there. and you can see the overflow and you can see the grille. and at certain times, you can see everything building up there, waiting to be let out untreated into this beautiful fishbourne channel. langstone harbour, just around the coast in hampshire. these pictures prompted a debate about sewage when we showed them on bbc breakfast.
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at the time, southern water said it was consented storm release and protected residents from potentialflooding. now they say it was treated sewage and the plant was operating correctly. but scientists and campaigners aren't convinced. at the local sailing club, these young mariners are horrified by what they sometimes see and smell. you're swimming in poo and it might make you ill. when you go under and then you come up, sometimes a bit of water dribbles into your mouth. and when you figure out that's poo, it's basically poo coming into your mouth. it smells absolutely disgusting. and itjust, it looks- like just a pile of murky, brown, disgusting goo. they'll never know for sure if there's a link, but lots of them suspect the water has made them sick. i come sailing on langstone harbour
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twice a week for my college course, and since we started college course, every one of us has been ill at some point from capsizing our boat and accidentally drinking the water. i've been thinking about having a swim while i'm here, but now i'm not so sure. claire tells me she goes twice a week, but she keeps away from the sewage works and avoids rainy days like today when there might be an overflow. i won't swim for 72 hours after there's been a release, but if there hasn't and, you know, on a normal dry summer's day, it's fine. but i do tend to go down onto hayling island beach because i feel it's cleaner there than it is in the harbours, which is such a big shame. so i'm all dressed up, got my wet suit on. i know we talked about going for a swim, but i think i might leave it. 0k. i think we'll find another spot. locals like bianca are so concerned about water quality here.
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they're now doing their own checks, paying a lab to test the water. what have you found in that water? we've got painkillers, we have got the pill. not even thinking about the cocaine, the mdma and all the the recreational drugs that we found in there, and then the pesticides and the things that are coming off agriculture. for centuries, people here have lived their lives according to the tides and what the water does. now they're thinking more about what that water contains. this tuesday morning, it's rather brighter and lovelier, but that doesn't mean that there is no threat. we have got a bbc news exclusive story this morning about, in some places, sewage being released illegally even on sunny days when there isn't a storm. all
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of the details coming up. we will hearfrom the government of the details coming up. we will hear from the government and campaigners like feargal sharkey as well. a special bbc breakfast looking at water pollution, live from portsmouth this morning, but first, let's check in with our teams around the uk. we will see with especially the moment. hello, good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. the family of a man shot dead by police in south london say it's "unbelieveable" they're still waiting to hear if the officer involved will face charges. it's now a year since chris kaba died after his car was followed by police in streatham hill. his parents have accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency. the cps said it doesn't "provide timescales for charging decisions" and is "carefully considering the evidence". new data shows the use of drones by police in the south east is on the rise. the so called "eyes in the sky" can
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help to catch criminals, and improve safety at events. thames valley police now deploys them around 1,500 times a year and were recently used at reading festival. the founder of the orginal kiss fm is being inducted into the music walk of fame in camden. gordon mac set it up in 1985, originally as a pirate station. it helped launched the careers of djs including trevor nelson and norman jay. travel now and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. fine and dry with plenty of sunshine and hardly any cloud. clear tonight, temperatures could get up to 30 degrees in places. lots more on the website and social media, including one of the world's largest diamonds one of the world's largest diamonds on display. i'm back in half an hour.
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hello, welcome to bbc breakfast. a special programme today looking at water pollution. here are your headlines. sewage in our water — a bbc investigation suggests three major water companies have released raw sewage illegally hundreds of times last year. in this special programme today we will explore the issue, find out how to pay for it and what is being done to fix it. it is notjust our coastlines. i am on the river wye this morning. it is enjoyed by wild swimmers and canoeists. everybody here is concerned about this river's health.
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we are alive at the institute for marine sciences here in langstone harbour, just a mile or so from the centre marine sciences here in langstone harbour, just a mile or so from the centre of marine sciences here in langstone harbour, just a mile or so from the centre of portsmouth. we know this issue matters an awful lot to you. what is a narrow water? how do we trust what comes out of the taps? i do we pay to improve the infrastructure or in the next half an hour we will speak to feargal sharkey, and also to the environment secretary, therese coffey. i have been speaking to her. the message is very clear from the public. they are fed up with the sewage. i am too. but we have to have the extra investment to make sure it gets delivered. also on breakfast... as more than a hundred schools stay fuly or partially closed this week over concrete concerns, questions remain on how many more could be affected. and i am here in hampshire this morning. lots going on behind me.
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marine biologists out, the sun is out. the forecast is for a dry, sunny and warm one for most of us. details later. hello. iamat i am at langstone harbour, overlooking the river solent on this beautiful tuesday morning, tuesday the 5th of september. it feels like the 5th of september. it feels like the middle of summer. blue skies. a fantastic sunrise a couple of hours ago. but we are notjust looking at these guys. we are notjust thinking about the lovely weather. we are not distracted from the fact we are talking about what is in the water, notjust here in langstone harbour, but right around the country. because we know it is an issue that concerns all of us, every single one of us uses water, lots of us swim in it, lots of us will have been on holidays to the beach recently. we have got lots of questions we are hoping to get answered this morning. let's give you a sense of scale. let's give you a sense of scale.
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let's go through some of the numbers. about why and how sewage is released into water. last year sewage was released 1.75 -- 1.75 last year sewage was released 1.75 —— 1.75 million hours. that means sewage was released on average 825 times into waterways every single day. let's break it down a bit further. last year sewage was being released into our waterways about every two minutes. in fact, more often than that, but every minute and 45 seconds. to put that in a breakfast orjunk, bbc breakfast is on airfor three and breakfast orjunk, bbc breakfast is on air for three and a quarter hours every morning. that means during the duration of this morning's edition, sewage water will have been released over 100 times. today is a good day
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for us to be looking at this because there is a big bbc news story, which you can read about on the website, and you will hear about it all day on the radio and television. an investigation by the hour or science team has been looking at what water companies have apparently been doing illegally discharging sewage hundreds of times last year. we have seen analysis of data from three of the largest water companies, thames water, wessex and southern water, and it has found nearly 400 spills lasting thousands of hours, taking place notjust during wet days, not just during storms where they can release sewage illegally, —— legally, but on dry days, sunny days, like today. jonah fisher has been looking at the data. it stinks, but is it legal? raw sewage was released onto england's beaches and into its rivers, more than 300,000 times last year. some of it was allowed, but our analysis of water
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company data suggests they're regularly breaking the law. rural west sussex and one of southern england's celebrated chalk streams. so here we are. welcome to the river lavant, or as we locally call it, the river lav. the river lav? the river lav. just full of full of effluent. rob, a retired businessman, is notjoking. there would be no river lavant in the summer without the treated discharges from the next door sewage plant. when we came, it was overflowing. so we had the storm overflow coming out here, untreated sewage coming out here. and we came back a few days later, it was still going on. a few days later, again, still going on. rob filmed what looks like a white fungus growing on the sewage slick. but why was it spilling? there was no rain on the day the flow began, or on any of the previous three days. rob complained, the environment agency investigated,
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and though southern water was found to have broken the rules, it was only given a warning. they treat it as a one—off, absolutely. whereas it had been going for probably three to four months, and continued for three to four months afterwards. it is a scandal. over the last few years, the water companies have been forced by the government to report details of when and where they discharge raw sewage. it's only supposed to happen when the system is overwhelmed. after heavy rainfall, or snow. it's not supposed to take place, as it did here, during periods of dry weather. so, how common are these dry spells? to find out, the bbc requested details from all nine english water companies. three of the largest complied, providing us with huge amounts of data. we then cross—referenced that
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with rainfall and found what looks like nearly 400 sewage spills lasting thousands of hours that started during dry weather. any spill that we can verify that's taken place during a dry spill condition would be illegal, against the permit. many of the water companies, like southern water at the lavant, say ground water leaking into cracked pipes is behind some of the spills. thames water apologised for some of theirs. wessex said some of the data they'd given us was flawed. there should never be a dry spill, and any suggestion that there has been one should be investigated fully by the environment agency. but i think really enforcement is not the way we're going to fix the ultimate issue, which is to reduce, and ideally eliminate, sewage going into our rivers and seas, which is why we have unveiled an ambitious plan to triple investment so that we can tackle the root cause of the problem, which is an ageing system, a tired system, and a very large system. the environment agency told us it's now working on its largest ever
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criminal investigation into water companies and their sewage spills. jonah fisher, bbc news. jonah fisher reporting. and jonah joins me now. you have been through a lot of information to get these facts and figures together?— figures together? yes, with my colleague. _ figures together? yes, with my colleague, who _ figures together? yes, with my colleague, who have _ figures together? yes, with my colleague, who have been - figures together? yes, with my - colleague, who have been slogging through it all. what is important to remember is that what happens every year is the water companies and the environment agency published details on spills, how long they happened in very general terms, and how often they spilled. they don't publish the granular detail, exactly when and where they started and stopped. that is important because it can help us take a view as to whether it was a legal spill or an illegal spell. but water companies, as we have talked about already, are allowed to spill
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if their systems are overwhelmed, there is too much rain, it has melted slowly in the system. if it looks like these sewage parts —— pipes are going to be unable to cope, it is allowed to leak sewage into our rivers. according to environmental law they are not allowed to do that if it is a beautiful dry day like today. and so in our model we gave a window of the day of the spill started and the three days before. if all of those three days before. if all of those three days before. if all of those three days were fine, there was no spell, we counted that as being a dry spell. that is how we came up with his figure of nearly 400 dry spells by the three companies who provided us with their data. six other english water companies wouldn't hand it over. t other english water companies wouldn't hand it over.- other english water companies wouldn't hand it over. i am thinking back to last— wouldn't hand it over. i am thinking back to last summer. _ wouldn't hand it over. i am thinking back to last summer. we _ wouldn't hand it over. i am thinking back to last summer. we had - wouldn't hand it over. i am thinking back to last summer. we had that l back to last summer. we had that really heart dry spell. record—breaking temperatures injuly last year. sewage was apparently even being released on days like that? .,. , 2 even being released on days like that? , . , even being released on days like that? , 2 , ., , that? exactly. we still found dry sills that? exactly. we still found dry spills taking _ that? exactly. we still found dry spills taking place _ that? exactly. we still found dry spills taking place at _ that? exactly. we still found dry spills taking place at the - that? exactly. we still found dry spills taking place at the peak i that? exactly. we still found dryj spills taking place at the peak of last summer. it was an exceptionally
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hot summer. large parts of last year we were in drought. it looks like there spills were still taking place. there are some reasons why the environment agency would not prosecute. there are some explanations which the water companies gave for why these dry spells are taking place. they include high levels of ground water include high levels of ground water in the soil, forcing its way into cracked pipes, which then helps to fill up and overwhelm the sewage treatment plants. that is still a symptom of the lack of investment in now systems. other companies say the day—to—day have given us wasn't entirely correct, it was flawed in some levels. but all of those explanations, they can help us understand a bit more about what it has happened. but the point we are making today is it shouldn't be happening under low. dry spills are illegal and should not be taking place. illegal and should not be taking lace. 2. ~ illegal and should not be taking lace. 2, ~' ,, illegal and should not be taking ilace. ., ~' ,2, 2 illegal and should not be taking ilace. ., ~' a, . place. thank you. we will get some reaction to — place. thank you. we will get some reaction to jonah's _
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place. thank you. we will get some reaction to jonah's report _ place. thank you. we will get some reaction to jonah's report from - reaction to jonah's report from therese coffey and the water campaigner feargal sharkey in the next few minutes. we are on the solent, on the south coast of england. it's notjust our coastlines like here in hampshire that are impacted by sewage and pollution — it's our rivers as well. fi lamdin is by the river in monmouth. hello. we are on the river wye this morning. we have seen kingfishers, geese, swans... absolutely beautiful. enjoyed by canoeists, while swimmers, but everybody here is concerned about the health of the river. earlier in may it was downgraded to unfavourable and declining. i have been out with their wild swimmers. she is angela jones. she has been showing mejust how worried she is about the health of this river.
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it breaks my heart. i have two children. i am a guardian of those children. i am a guardian of those children. i am a guardian of those children. i have always felt exactly the same about the river wye. this is my river. ifeel like i am letting it down. is my river. i feel like i am letting it down.— is my river. i feel like i am letting it down. is my river. i feel like i am lettin: it down. ., ., ., letting it down. the wild woman of the river wye _ letting it down. the wild woman of the river wye has _ letting it down. the wild woman of the river wye has spent _ letting it down. the wild woman of the river wye has spent years - the river wye has spent years watching the river she loves to climb. angela is worried that time to save it may be running out. there is a death occurring _ to save it may be running out. there is a death occurring and _ to save it may be running out. there is a death occurring and i _ to save it may be running out. there is a death occurring and i can't - to save it may be running out. there is a death occurring and i can't do i is a death occurring and i can't do anything about it. the is a death occurring and i can't do anything about it.— anything about it. the river is bein: anything about it. the river is being poisoned _ anything about it. the river is being poisoned by— anything about it. the river is being poisoned by sewage . anything about it. the river is| being poisoned by sewage and agricultural run—off. angela has swum in it for more than four decades. six years ago, she noticed things were changing. t decades. six years ago, she noticed things were changing.— things were changing. i started to taste it differently. _ things were changing. i started to taste it differently. the _ things were changing. i started to taste it differently. the stance - taste it differently. the stance below the surface would be covered in grime. —— stones. i don't recognise my river. in grime. -- stones. i don't recognise my river.- in grime. -- stones. i don't recognise my river. she takes me u stream
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recognise my river. she takes me upstream from — recognise my river. she takes me upstream from the _ recognise my river. she takes me upstream from the sewage - recognise my river. she takes me upstream from the sewage plant| recognise my river. she takes me i upstream from the sewage plant and shows me what she says is untreated sewage. if we swam in this, how poorly would we be? we sewage. if we swam in this, how poorly would we be? we wouldn't even contemplate — poorly would we be? we wouldn't even contemplate going _ poorly would we be? we wouldn't even contemplate going anywhere _ poorly would we be? we wouldn't even contemplate going anywhere near - contemplate going anywhere near this. you'd be sick as a pig. earlier in the year natural england downgraded the status of the river to unfavourable and declining. it's a poultry farms, the waste which comes from them, which some believe is to blame, adding phosphates to the water. angela now is to test the water daily before swimming a need to check it is said. she takes me to an area she knows is clean. so, every time i slip into the river it's like the first time i have ever set foot in it. it's full of
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excitement and it is nature's how. i could lose everything. but i couldn't lose this. —— high. couldn't lose this. -- high-— couldn't lose this. -- hi.h_ . ., , 2, couldn't lose this. -- hi.h_ 2 2, , 2, couldn't lose this. --hi~h. 2. , ., ., y -- high. angela is not the only erson -- high. angela is not the only person who — -- high. angela is not the only person who is _ -- high. angela is not the only person who is concerned - -- high. angela is not the only person who is concerned here. j -- high. angela is not the only - person who is concerned here. let's come over and talk to the environment agency. claire, thank you forjoining us. tell us what you are seeing here? this you forjoining us. tell us what you are seeing here?— you forjoining us. tell us what you are seeing here? this is a beautiful and important _ are seeing here? this is a beautiful and important river. _ are seeing here? this is a beautiful and important river. over- are seeing here? this is a beautiful and important river. over time - are seeing here? this is a beautiful and important river. over time we | and important river. over time we have seen more phosphate going into it. so, the habitat for salmon, for the invertebrates, have been affected. but particularly in the last five years as we have seen more climate change. last five years as we have seen more climate change-— last five years as we have seen more climate change. what do you put this down to? it — climate change. what do you put this down to? it is — climate change. what do you put this down to? it is a _ climate change. what do you put this down to? it is a complicated - climate change. what do you put this down to? it is a complicated issue. i down to? it is a complicated issue. lots of different _ down to? it is a complicated issue. lots of different factors _ down to? it is a complicated issue. lots of different factors to - down to? it is a complicated issue. lots of different factors to take - lots of different factors to take into account. we have done extensive research. that is shown is that about 70% of the problem is coming from agricultural pollution as things wash off the land. that is absolutely being made was here in the river wye catchment by the amount of chicken manure being applied to the land.—
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amount of chicken manure being applied to the land. there is a huge amount of chicken _ applied to the land. there is a huge amount of chicken farming - applied to the land. there is a huge amount of chicken farming going i applied to the land. there is a huge j amount of chicken farming going on and it is their waste when it is put on di farmer's land which runs off? absolutely. it is not the chickens per se, absolutely. it is not the chickens perse, it absolutely. it is not the chickens per se, it is the manure that we need to be focusing on and how we handle it. the need to be focusing on and how we handle it. 2 . need to be focusing on and how we handle it. 2 , ,., ., handle it. the welsh government have ut a hold handle it. the welsh government have put a hold on — handle it. the welsh government have put a hold on all— handle it. the welsh government have put a hold on all new _ handle it. the welsh government have put a hold on all new chicken - handle it. the welsh government have put a hold on all new chicken farms. i put a hold on all new chicken farms. let's come over to tom from the nfu. what is your feeling about this, the fact it has put a hold on chicken farming? fact it has put a hold on chicken farmina ? 2 2. fact it has put a hold on chicken farmina ? 2 ., ., farming? well, the health of the river is absolutely _ farming? well, the health of the river is absolutely paramount i farming? well, the health of the river is absolutely paramount for everybody and it is very concerning the welsh — everybody and it is very concerning the welsh government cannot give permission for any more or new poultry— permission for any more or new poultry farms. the chickens have never _ poultry farms. the chickens have never been — poultry farms. the chickens have never been a problem. it is a complicated issue. if it is the poultry— complicated issue. if it is the poultry that is to blame, it is how we utilise — poultry that is to blame, it is how we utilise that your car be valuable resource _ we utilise that your car be valuable resource for— we utilise that your car be valuable resource for growing crops and producing _ resource for growing crops and producing the food that people eat, but if _ producing the food that people eat, but if we _ producing the food that people eat, but if we need to, that can be managed _ but if we need to, that can be managed and taken out of the catchment. it is definitely not the chickens— catchment. it is definitely not the chickens that if the problem. it is how we _ chickens that if the problem. it is how we manage the critical resource to make _
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how we manage the critical resource to make sure it doesn't cause water pollution _ to make sure it doesn't cause water pollution. we need support from the welsh _ pollution. we need support from the welsh and _ pollution. we need support from the welsh and english governments to make _ welsh and english governments to make sure all the buffer zones can be put _ make sure all the buffer zones can be put in _ make sure all the buffer zones can be put in place to correct or protect _ be put in place to correct or protect their water courses, to mitigate — protect their water courses, to mitigate against any risk. there reason — mitigate against any risk. there reason i — mitigate against any risk. there reason ijoined up approach. there isn't a _ reason ijoined up approach. there isn't a properly funded environmental scheme which encourages are members to protect these _ encourages are members to protect these watercourses. are encourages are members to protect these watercourses.— encourages are members to protect these watercourses. are you and your members prepared — these watercourses. are you and your members prepared to _ these watercourses. are you and your members prepared to move _ these watercourses. are you and your members prepared to move the i these watercourses. are you and your l members prepared to move the chicken farms away? tt members prepared to move the chicken farms awa ? 2 members prepared to move the chicken farms awa ? . , ., , , farms away? if the evidence shows us that we have — farms away? if the evidence shows us that we have to _ farms away? if the evidence shows us that we have to move _ farms away? if the evidence shows us that we have to move on _ farms away? if the evidence shows us that we have to move on from - farms away? if the evidence shows us that we have to move on from the i that we have to move on from the catchment. — that we have to move on from the catchment, then yes. there are other fought— catchment, then yes. there are other fought sources of phosphate. human ways to _ fought sources of phosphate. human ways to spread onto the land. that comes— ways to spread onto the land. that comes onto — ways to spread onto the land. that comes onto the catchment. we have all the _ comes onto the catchment. we have all the other issues of sewage coming — all the other issues of sewage coming into the rivers as well. it is not _ coming into the rivers as well. it is not a — coming into the rivers as well. it is not a simple subject. is not a simple sub'ect. touching on the sewage. _ is not a simple sub'ect. touching on the sewage. new — is not a simple subject. touching on the sewage, how big _ is not a simple subject. touching on the sewage, how big a _ is not a simple subject. touching on the sewage, how big a problem i is not a simple subject. touching on the sewage, how big a problem as l is not a simple subject. touching on i the sewage, how big a problem as the sewage? the sewage, how big a problem as the sewaue? 2. the sewage, how big a problem as the sewaue? . , ., 2 the sewage, how big a problem as the sewaue? . , ., . 2, ~ sewage? that same research i talked about earlier — sewage? that same research i talked about earlier tells _ sewage? that same research i talked about earlier tells us _ sewage? that same research i talked about earlier tells us about _ sewage? that same research i talked about earlier tells us about 2096 i sewage? that same research i talked about earlier tells us about 2096 of i about earlier tells us about 20% of the phosphate is coming from the sewage. that is really low compared to other catchments across the country, but we are working very closely with natural resources
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wales, the regulator here, to make sure the water company is doing all it needs to. sure the water company is doing all it needs to— it needs to. welsh water say they are clear that _ it needs to. welsh water say they are clear that they _ it needs to. welsh water say they are clear that they are _ it needs to. welsh water say they are clear that they are investing l are clear that they are investing millions in sorting out the problems here on the border. lastly, just very quickly, you have got the docks, this is absolutely beautiful, is there hope for the river wye? there is notjust help, we are absolutely committed to solving this problem here. we are working with farmers and partners to make sure everybody is getting the right advice. we are trialling new tools and approaches and we are absolutely committed to working with everybody who loves this river as much as we do, to make sure it can thrive into the future. t do, to make sure it can thrive into the future-— do, to make sure it can thrive into the future. . , ., ., ., the future. i am 'ust going to leave ou with the future. i am 'ust going to leave you with these — the future. i am just going to leave you with those lovely _ the future. i am just going to leave you with those lovely docks. i the future. i am just going to leave you with those lovely docks. they i you with those lovely docks. they have just swam past us. what a beautiful morning it is on the river wye. everybody is determined to save eight. it looks gorgeous. thank you very much. one man who knows that stretch of the river wye very well as feargal sharkey, water campaigner. good morning. thank you
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forjoining us. tsh’t campaigner. good morning. thank you forjoining us— for 'oining us. isn't it glorious? it forjoining us. isn't it glorious? it is absolutely _ forjoining us. isn't it glorious? it is absolutely extraordinary. l it is absolutely extraordinary. thank you for the opportunity. before we begin? can ijust say well done to the bbc and you guys for putting all of this together? it is an extraordinary piece of work. it provides another layer of the horror that has become the water industry in england. tt is that has become the water industry in entland. , ., that has become the water industry in entland. ,., , . that has become the water industry in entland. , , 2 ~ ., in england. it is a sub'ect we know our in england. it is a sub'ect we know audience h in england. it is a sub'ect we know our audience really i in england. it is a subject we know our audience really care _ in england. it is a subject we know our audience really care about i in england. it is a subject we know our audience really care about and j our audience really care about and want answers about. that is why we are devoting part of the programme to water pollution. can i get your answer to the bbc report this morning suggesting that raw sewage is being released, even on dry days? yeah, we have known about this for years. it turns out that the government, the regulators, the environment agency, ofwat and the industry, has known this has been going on. it has taken the bbc and your kind of research to drag out of them, kicking and screaming, that this stuff is going on, even outside of exceptional situations, and even when there has been no rain, there
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has been no sign of rain, but they will still blatantly, deliberately, knowingly, break the law and act illegally. knowingly, break the law and act illetall . . , illegally. something i find really interestint illegally. something i find really interesting researching - illegally. something i find really interesting researching this, i illegally. something i find really| interesting researching this, and i'm no expert, just reading up on it in the last few weeks, sometimes we talk about releasing sewage, as if there is somebody pulling a lever or pressing a button, but this is built into the system, isn't it? it happens automatically when there is an issue. . . happens automatically when there is an issue. , , ,., an issue. yes, but let me expand. the uk government _ an issue. yes, but let me expand. the uk government was _ an issue. yes, but let me expand. the uk government was taken i an issue. yes, but let me expand. the uk government was taken to | an issue. yes, but let me expand. i the uk government was taken to court ten years ago in 2012, to the european court ofjustice. the court ruled this basically should not be happening at all. it should only be allowable in what the court referred to as exceptional situations. that is a rare event. the government have known for at least ten years, and the water companies, have known but do nothing about it.— do nothing about it. releasing it in a storm day _
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do nothing about it. releasing it in a storm day is _ do nothing about it. releasing it in a storm day is legal, _ do nothing about it. releasing it in a storm day is legal, isn't - do nothing about it. releasing it in a storm day is legal, isn't it? i a storm day is legal, isn't it? well, according to the judgment, a storm day is legal, isn't it? well, according to thejudgment, it is not. well, according to the 'udgment, it is not. ., _ well, according to the 'udgment, it is not. ., ., is not. the government say water tuali is not. the government say water quality has _ is not. the government say water quality has never _ is not. the government say water quality has never been _ is not. the government say water quality has never been better- is not. the government say water quality has never been better in l quality has never been better in many cases. they say the crucial issueis many cases. they say the crucial issue is they are monitoring it much better now. there are centres all over the country looking at what is in the water. we know more now. that is why it looks so bad? mr; in the water. we know more now. that is why it looks so bad?— is why it looks so bad? my response to that is the _ is why it looks so bad? my response to that is the government _ is why it looks so bad? my response to that is the government monitors | to that is the government monitors or river quite closely. in 2009, 20 5% are representing that were good ecological condition. —— 25%. that has plummeted to 40%. the current forecast is that if we do not do something radical by 2027, that will have collapsed to 6%. 6% of rivers? that doesn't sound to me like progress, or anybody is doing a good job. th progress, or anybody is doing a good 'ob. 2. progress, or anybody is doing a good 'ob. ., ., ., ., job. in a moment we will hear from therese coffey. _ job. in a moment we will hear from therese coffey, who _ job. in a moment we will hear from therese coffey, who i _ job. in a moment we will hear from therese coffey, who i spoke i job. in a moment we will hear from therese coffey, who i spoke to i therese coffey, who i spoke to yesterday. we will hear what she has to say. we will get your response. you say something radical. what? people are watching at home this
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morning, thinking, iam people are watching at home this morning, thinking, i am already struggling to pay my bills, i don't want to have a whacked up water bill costing me maybe 40% more. how can we be radical and keep bills down? well, here is the thing. you shouldn't have your bill whacked up anything at all. shouldn't have your bill whacked up anything at all-— shouldn't have your bill whacked up anything at all. somebody has to pay for it? two years _ anything at all. somebody has to pay for it? two years ago _ anything at all. somebody has to pay for it? two years ago the _ anything at all. somebody has to pay for it? two years ago the regulator i for it? two years ago the regulator wrote to the _ for it? two years ago the regulator wrote to the water _ for it? two years ago the regulator wrote to the water companies. i for it? two years ago the regulatorl wrote to the water companies. they have a legal obligation to build and operate it sewage system capable of effectively dealing with the content of those sorts. they also told the water companies that we as customers have already provided them with all of the funding they needed to fix this sewage system for the last 30 years. so the question we should be asking is, what happened to the money? where did it go? it clearly was not spent on the sewage system? and can we have a refund? if anybody is going to pay for this, it should be the shareholders of these companies that have made off with
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£72 billion of our money, and the bondholders now reaping the benefits of interest on £60 billion worth of debt. they should be paying, not us. the water companies and governments say record investment, record improvements. we will get back to in a moment. i have been speaking to therese coffey. to start with asked for her response to this bbc research suggesting sewage is being released even in dry sunny days clearly i expect when regulations are broken that they are complied with and action is taken where they have not been.- complied with and action is taken where they have not been. there will be a variety — where they have not been. there will be a variety of _ where they have not been. there will be a variety of reasons _ where they have not been. there will be a variety of reasons why _ where they have not been. there will be a variety of reasons why the i be a variety of reasons why the environment agency can explain why it may not be running one day and yet there are still leaks. some of that will be links going through the network, what is happening with ground water. at over one of the reasons we introduce monitoring was that a decade ago to try to make
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sure that we were catching and understanding this when people pass my concerns were being addressed. and by the end of this year every single storm overflow will be having that monitor and that information will be used. tt that monitor and that information will be used-— will be used. it seems like even onhne will be used. it seems like even online -- _ will be used. it seems like even online -- the — will be used. it seems like even online -- the 19th _ will be used. it seems like even online -- the 19th of— will be used. it seems like even online -- the 19th ofjuly i will be used. it seems like even online -- the 19th ofjuly last i online —— the 19th ofjuly last year, the hottest day on record come the middle of the dry spell, even then there was sewage being released illegally. you have talked about the environment agency. do you also take your share of the responsibility for this? tt your share of the responsibility for this? ., , , .,., ., , ., this? it does seem extraordinary on the hottest day _ this? it does seem extraordinary on the hottest day of _ this? it does seem extraordinary on the hottest day of the _ this? it does seem extraordinary on the hottest day of the year - this? it does seem extraordinary on the hottest day of the year there i the hottest day of the year there may be released. i go back to the fact the environment agency are the regulators. they will do the detailed investigation and understanding of why that has happened and what they are going to do about it in terms of, was it a breach? is there an explanation? frankly, at the water companies literally dropped the ball and messed up? that is why we had a number of investigations. there is a wider point about water companies that they are all under a criminal investigation right now in a combination between themselves and
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ofwat. ., _ combination between themselves and ofwat, 2, 2, combination between themselves and ofwat. ., ., , ., ofwat. you say water companies have to im trove ofwat. you say water companies have to improve their— ofwat. you say water companies have to improve their storm _ ofwat. you say water companies have to improve their storm overflows, i to improve their storm overflows, stop them charging —— discharging into bathing water by 2035, 12 years. but this summer we have had a swimming event is cancelled, we have had team gb triathletes unable to train. i have spoken to kids in the south coast were terrified about swallowing excrement in the water. 12 years' time those kids could have kids of their own. it is a long time to wait, isn't it? the kids of their own. it is a long time to wait, isn't it?— to wait, isn't it? the highest proportion — to wait, isn't it? the highest proportion of— to wait, isn't it? the highest proportion of or _ to wait, isn't it? the highest proportion of or bathing i to wait, isn't it? the highest i proportion of or bathing waters to wait, isn't it? the highest - proportion of or bathing waters have achieved excellent status. it is at 72%. we have seen improvements made. we are also seeing more places becoming designated. langstone harbour just down the becoming designated. langstone harbourjust down the road of a hayling island you will see the status is excellent for all the bathing waters that have been designated down there. now we still want to see improvement is, of course we do. we want to see improvements for people, we want to see improvements for nature. that is
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why this systematic approach of a credible plan for water, we are doing plans water body by water body, it does take time, we can see in the river thames, one of the dirtiest rivers, we are seeing regeneration of nature coming back in, but also the super sewer coming, which has taken ten years to build and develop. it will be operational next year. that has taken several billion pounds of investment, and some of these projects will take time. some of these pro'ects will take time. ., ., time. the environment water campaigner— time. the environment water campaigner feargal- time. the environment water campaigner feargal sharkeyl time. the environment water i campaigner feargal sharkey has a question for you that he would like an answer to. i can play this for you. an answer to. ican ala thisfor ou. 2 2, . i can play this for you. who is unha-- i can play this for you. who is unhappy at — i can play this for you. who is unhappy at the _ i can play this for you. who is unhappy at the government i i can play this for you. who is i unhappy at the government because i can play this for you. who is _ unhappy at the government because my policy towards _ unhappy at the government because my policy towards the — unhappy at the government because my policy towards the environment - unhappy at the government because my policy towards the environment and i policy towards the environment and its protection — policy towards the environment and its protection of _ policy towards the environment and its protection of the _ policy towards the environment and its protection of the environment, i its protection of the environment, which _ its protection of the environment, which has — its protection of the environment, which has failed? _ its protection of the environment, which has failed? raise _ its protection of the environment, which has failed? raise your- its protection of the environment, l which has failed? raise your hand. secretary— which has failed? raise your hand. secretary of — which has failed? raise your hand. secretary of state, _ which has failed? raise your hand. secretary of state, 12 _ which has failed? raise your hand. secretary of state, 12 years - which has failed? raise your hand. secretary of state, 12 years ago, i secretary of state, 12 years ago, 25% of — secretary of state, 12 years ago, 25% of our _ secretary of state, 12 years ago, 25% of our rivers _ secretary of state, 12 years ago, 25% of our rivers were _ secretary of state, 12 years ago, 25% of our rivers were in - secretary of state, 12 years ago, 25% of our rivers were in good i 25% of our rivers were in good ecological— 25% of our rivers were in good ecological status. _ 25% of our rivers were in good ecological status. that - 25% of our rivers were in good ecological status. that is i 25% of our rivers were in good ecological status. that is now| 25% of our rivers were in good i ecological status. that is now 14. your _ ecological status. that is now 14. your own — ecological status. that is now 14. your own data _ ecological status. that is now 14. your own data tells _ ecological status. that is now 14. your own data tells me _ ecological status. that is now 14. your own data tells me that i ecological status. that is now 14. your own data tells me that is i ecological status. that is now 14. i
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your own data tells me that is going to be _ your own data tells me that is going to be six— your own data tells me that is going to be six by— your own data tells me that is going to be six by 20272 _ your own data tells me that is going to be six by 2027. why— your own data tells me that is going to be six by 2027. why and - your own data tells me that is going to be six by 2027. why and how- your own data tells me that is going to be six by 2027. why and how didl to be six by 2027. why and how did you ever— to be six by 2027. why and how did you ever allow _ to be six by 2027. why and how did you ever allow that _ to be six by 2027. why and how did you ever allow that to _ to be six by 2027. why and how did you ever allow that to happen? i to be six by 2027. why and how did. you ever allow that to happen? what i would say back— you ever allow that to happen? what i would say back to _ you ever allow that to happen? i would say back to sugar is that i want to see continuous improvement. but if i go back to 2008, 70% of our rivers were a good ecological status. the goalposts have shifted. we quite rightly wanted more stringent assessment of that. since then we have also got more stringent ways of actually doing the monitoring and the measuring. but at the same time what has improved is that we are now seeing that three quarters of all the measures, in order to try to achieve good status, is being achieved. that is a substantial increase from where we were and the way the regulations work you have 20 different factors. if one of them fails everything fails. ., ., ., ~ ., fails. you have talked about the billions of _ fails. you have talked about the billions of pounds _ fails. you have talked about the billions of pounds of _ fails. you have talked about the j billions of pounds of investment fails. you have talked about the i billions of pounds of investment to make things better. but i suppose at the end of the day it is going to be our viewers, the customers, whose bills go up and pay for that. reports this summer that bills could go reports this summer that bills could 9° up reports this summer that bills could go up by 40% in the next five years. is that likely? is that the kind of
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sum we are talking about? icrate is that likely? is that the kind of sum we are talking about? we are still ttoin sum we are talking about? we are still going through _ sum we are talking about? we are still going through a _ sum we are talking about? we are still going through a process. i sum we are talking about? we are l still going through a process. ofwat will make thatjudgment. we have always been careful, regardless of the colour of government, to make sure we get the balance between investment and the cost to households. we want to make sure that we are getting good value for money for consumers, but also the necessary investment to make these changes. the message is very clear from the public. they are fed up with the sewage. i am too. but we are going to have is to have that extra investment to make sure it gets delivered. that is why our storm overflow plan itself alone is worth £56 billion and likely to be higher. tt worth £56 billion and likely to be hither. , ., worth £56 billion and likely to be hither. ,, . ~' worth £56 billion and likely to be hither. ,~. ., ~ ., worth £56 billion and likely to be hither. ., ~ higher. if you talk to people in arts of higher. if you talk to people in parts of true _ higher. if you talk to people in parts of true blue _ higher. if you talk to people in parts of true blue sussex i higher. if you talk to people in parts of true blue sussex and | parts of true blue sussex and hampshire as part of this bbc breakfast sewage special, some of them have described the conservative party as the party of sewage. this is politically, electorally, potentially toxic, isn't it, this subject? t potentially toxic, isn't it, this sub'ect? ~ �* .
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potentially toxic, isn't it, this sub'ect? ~ �*, ., , potentially toxic, isn't it, this sub'ect? ~ �*, , subject? i think it's really very difficult issue, _ subject? i think it's really very difficult issue, i'm _ subject? i think it's really very difficult issue, i'm not - subject? i think it's really very i difficult issue, i'm not pretending otherwise. but actually, we are the party cleaning it up. bathing waters have got far cleaner since we have beenin have got far cleaner since we have been in power. we have got the monitoring going. that is what we can uncover the scale of the issue we are tackling. we are also the party making sure that we are going to get more investment into the water companies and into the water infrastructure. that is something where we have a credible plan, water body by water body, that we will be doing to make sure that we continue to improve the cleanliness of our water because rivers are cleaner than they have ever been. therese coffe , than they have ever been. therese coffey. thank— than they have ever been. therese coffey, thank you. _ than they have ever been. therese coffey, thank you. that _ than they have ever been. therese coffey, thank you. that interview. coffey, thank you. that interview was yesterday afternoon in london. feargal sharkey still with me. the thing that struck me talking to the secretary of state was that she kept saying, look, this isn't easy, and that maybe we all think there is a magic switch, or a couple of million quid and it can be sorted. do you accept it is really complicated? tlat accept it is really complicated? not in the least- _
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accept it is really complicated? not in the least. this has been going on for decades — in the least. this has been going on for decades. they have had 30 years to get— for decades. they have had 30 years to get it _ for decades. they have had 30 years to get it right. the target the secretary of state referred to by 2027. _ secretary of state referred to by 2027. the — secretary of state referred to by 2027, the original legal target was over 100%— 2027, the original legal target was over 100% of our rivers would be in good _ over 100% of our rivers would be in good ecological status. we now know it is going _ good ecological status. we now know it is going to be six. what you are looking _ it is going to be six. what you are looking at— it is going to be six. what you are looking at is — it is going to be six. what you are looking at is actually three decades of a failure — looking at is actually three decades of a failure of political oversight, a failure — of a failure of political oversight, a failure of— of a failure of political oversight, a failure of regulation, and three decades— a failure of regulation, and three decades of water companies gaining the system for the benefit. given where we are, do you accept it isn't easy? tt given where we are, do you accept it isn't eas ? . given where we are, do you accept it isn't eas ? , ., ~ , isn't easy? itjust takes determination - isn't easy? itjust takes determination and i isn't easy? itjust takes determination and the l isn't easy? it just takes i determination and the desire isn't easy? it just takes - determination and the desire to isn't easy? it just takes _ determination and the desire to do it and currently politically that is not there. a, ~ it and currently politically that is not there. ., ~ , ., , it and currently politically that is not there. . ~' ,, , . not there. thank you very much, fearaal not there. thank you very much, feargal sharkey. _ not there. thank you very much, feargal sharkey. thank- not there. thank you very much, feargal sharkey. thank you - not there. thank you very much, feargal sharkey. thank you very| not there. thank you very much, - feargal sharkey. thank you very much for your messages this morning, we will keep coming. let's get the news, travel and weather from will keep coming. let's get the news, travel and weatherfrom our teams all over the uk whether you are near water or not. hello, good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle.
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the family of a man shot dead by police in south london say it's "unbelieveable" they're still waiting to hear if the officer involved will face charges. it's now a year since chris kaba died after his car was followed by police in streatham hill. his parents have accused the crown prosecution service of a lack of urgency. the cps said it doesn't "provide timescales for charging decisions" and is "carefully considering the evidence". there is no family, there is no life for us. not for myself, my wife, not for my kids. no more life, not for my family, not for chris's friends. everyone you see, they're all thinking about chris. new data shows the use of drones by police in the south east is on the rise. the so called "eyes in the sky" can help to catch criminals, and improve safety at events. thames valley police now deploys them around 1,500 times a year and were recently used at reading festival. the founder of the orginal kiss fm is being inducted
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into the music walk of fame in camden. gordon mac set it up in 1985, originally as a pirate station. it helped launched the careers of djs including trevor nelson and norman jay. 950 london men all taking part in weekly football sessions. nothing remarkable about that you might think until you hear that between them they've lost three tonnes of fat. it's all part of a fitness plan called man vs fat football which combines sport with healthy lifestyle coaching. since joining man vs fat football, i have made a massive achievement. i've lost a lot of weight, i've reversed my diabetes, i feel a lot healthier, both physically and mentally. travel now and this is how the tube is looking at the moment. minor delays on thejubilee line westbound only due to a shortage of trains. a good service on all other lines. and now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. the sunshine and the heat are both
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likely to continue as we go through the rest of this week. high pressure dominates, and there's some very warm air coming in from the near continent on a south—easterly wind. it will start to feel a lot more muggy and humid from tomorrow onwards. but for today, a bit more of a breeze around than we saw yesterday. because of the breeze, then, there is not so much mist and fog around as we saw yesterday. but still some patches of mist here and there first thing, lifting and clearing very readily through the morning. lots of blue sky and sunshine which we are set to keep for the rest of the day. temperatures once again likely to peak widely in the high 20s, we could get very close to 30 celsius. the uv levels are high. overnight tonight, again, we could see some patches of mist and fog develop, as that wind lightens, some very muggy air coming in. and tomorrow temperatures could get as high perhaps as 31 or even 32 celsius. a very uncomfortably
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warm night for sleeping on wednesday into thursday. lots more on social media including one of the world's largest diamonds now on display in london. i'm back in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with tina daheley and ben boulos in the studio, and jon kay in langstone harbour in hampshire. more than 100 schools will remain fully or partially closed this week over crumbling concrete concerns, with questions remaining over how many more could be affected. the education secretary says schools suspected to have raac concrete will be inspected "within weeks,", but around 1500 schools have yet to respond to surveys — causing huge uncertainty for parents and teachers. our correspondent tim muffet has more. raac is a subject dominating the start of the new school term in england. there'll be no lessons at this
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school in scarborough this week. two thirds of the site contains reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. jasmine is in year nine. they've had support beams up for a while holding the school up and theyjust told us that it's a few areas. it is a bit scary now knowing that some things might collapse and it would be scary if it did collapse on us. parents have been told the school will open on monday, but some pupils won't return to classrooms and will either be taught in other schools or at home. our lady's catholic high school in preston will also be closed today because of the presence of raac, a lightweight material widely used in flat roofs between the 1950s and 1990s, about which there are now growing safety concerns. for many parents, following the disruption caused by covid, the new school year could hardly have got off to a worse start. it's frightening because, of course, it's disruptive to the children. henry missed part of year six, part of year seven and online lessons for year seven.
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now, of course, we're startinh year ten, which is gcses. so it's that uncertainty of what's going to now happen. however, nobody wants their children being unsafe. the government says a full list of schools with raac will be published this week, but its response has drawn criticism and has placed the education secretary, gillian keegan, under growing pressure. as these comments after a tv interview yesterday showed. does anyone ever say, "you know what, you've done good job because everyone else has sat on thei �* “ no sign of that? she later apologised for her language. i do understand, by the way, the frustration for parents and for children, but safety has to come first and when you have that happening, you have to act on it. now i need everybody else to, you know, to give me all the information i need so i can make sure that we can mitigate the situation and minimise the disruption on children's education. the government has also ordered urgent tests on courts built in the 1990s after dangerous concrete was found at harrow crown court in north london.
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it was closed last month as a result. and the university of dundee has warned that replacing unsafe concrete in its buildings will cost millions of pounds. raac has been found in at least 2a university and college buildings in scotland. structural engineers are warning there are no quick fixes ahead. it is extremely difficult because the records are so poor and so in reality it has to rely on people who know what they're looking for making visits to all the buildings where this possibly exists, and that's buildings, any building constructed between the end of the war, i950—ish through to the early 1990s, and then focusing on locations within the building which have got flat roofs and going into the room below the roof. schools in scotland, wales and northern ireland are also being assessed for raac.
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the scottish government has said it is present in 35 council run schools. the welsh government said two schools on anglesey, which had been due to open for the autumn term today, would be closed temporarily. tim muffett, bbc news. let's get more on this now. we're joined now by the shadow paymaster general, jonathan ashworth. thank you forjoining us on breakfast this morning. this is clearly a very serious problem that isn't going away anytime soon. has your party now sat down and discussed how labour would get a grip of the situation? it’s discussed how labour would get a grip of the situation?— grip of the situation? it's a complete _ grip of the situation? it's a complete shambles, - grip of the situation? it's a complete shambles, isn'tl grip of the situation? it's a i complete shambles, isn't it? grip of the situation? it's a - complete shambles, isn't it? and parents, teachers, pupils who will be crying out for the government to get a grip of this, there is a primary school in my own constituency which actually closed at easter with relatively little
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notice. pupils are spread out across five different sites, the school varying pupils from one bit of the city of leicester to the other. we have been told that the temporary building will not necessarily be available until february and this is available until february and this is a school that closed in april. sam; a school that closed in april. sorry to interrupt. _ a school that closed in april. sorry to interrupt, we _ a school that closed in april. sorry to interrupt, we know— a school that closed in april. sorry to interrupt, we know what - a school that closed in april. sorry to interrupt, we know what the - to interrupt, we know what the situation is at the moment, the question was what labour would do to get on top of this situation now, given there is a general election on the horizon so there is a real possibility that if elected, labour will be dealing with this. it probably will not be until next may or october, that is some time away. we need this resolved now, so we need a clear audit and a clear list of all schools which has not even been published yet. and jeremy hunt, who promised to step in and fix this in terms of the money over the weekend, the chancellor of the exchequer, he needs to be held to that promise and deliver because parents want to know what is happening. it's clearly unacceptable
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to leave schools in the lurch for months and months. and it is as one head teacher said to me yesterday, these are darker days than covid for our children. these are darker days than covid for our children-— our children. yes, it's true, list is auoin our children. yes, it's true, list is going to _ our children. yes, it's true, list is going to be. _ our children. yes, it's true, list is going to be, the _ our children. yes, it's true, list is going to be, the government promises to publish it this week. you are in charge of education in wales, when more the list of schools be published in wales? only two have been identified as opposed to 156 in england, why is that number so low? i am not personally in charge of education in wales. the labour administration in wales have invested in the schools, this conservative government cut investment in both rebuilding schools when they were first elected 13 years ago, long time ago, but the conservatives have been in for a long time, but more recently we heard that education officials were pleading with rishi sunak when he was chancellor to put money into rebuild schools and he refused, in
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fact he cut the money going into rebuilding schools and making it safe. to rebuilding schools and making it safe. ., i: . rebuilding schools and making it safe. ., :: ., rebuilding schools and making it safe. ., i: ., . ., safe. to 50 a year. we heard the prime minister _ safe. to 50 a year. we heard the prime minister being _ safe. to 50 a year. we heard the prime minister being criticised. l safe. to 50 a year. we heard the i prime minister being criticised. and uuite prime minister being criticised. jifuc quite rightly so because the buck stops with him. if) quite rightly so because the buck stops with him.— quite rightly so because the buck stos with him. :: ,. , , , ., stops with him. 50 schools per year, how many would _ stops with him. 50 schools per year, how many would labour— stops with him. 50 schools per year, how many would labour rebuild? - stops with him. 50 schools per year, how many would labour rebuild? a l how many would labour rebuild? a recommendation was made to government that the number of schools that need to be replaced in the region of three 400, so can you tell us how many schools labour would rebuild?— tell us how many schools labour would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that bud . et, would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that budget. that _ would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that budget, that was _ would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that budget, that was down _ would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that budget, that was down to - would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that budget, that was down to him, - would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that budget, that was down to him, as i would rebuild? rishi sunak cut that| budget, that was down to him, as a consequence pupils in some parts of the country are not in school and the country are not in school and the education secretary was expected to be catchy —— congratulated for her work using other colourful language. when the general election comes we will outline our position but we should not have to wait until may or october to get this fixed, it
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needs to be fixed now. ifjeremy hunt is claiming as he did on laura kuenssberg on sunday, that he is going to put the money in, you need to be getting on with this and explaining, the treasury needs to explaining, the treasury needs to explain to the country and parents and pupils when their schools are going to be rebuilt and to safely reopen. going to be rebuilt and to safely reo en. ~ ., ., going to be rebuilt and to safely reoen. a, ., ., , , reopen. moving on to the reshuffle, keir starmer — reopen. moving on to the reshuffle, keir starmer reshuffled _ reopen. moving on to the reshuffle, keir starmer reshuffled yesterday, l keir starmer reshuffled yesterday, you have been moved from the work pension is brief to paymaster general, isn't that a big demotion? no, this is about preparing us for the next general election campaign and its role around preparing us for government. if we get elected and we know we have got a lot of work to do to win a general election, we are taking nothing for granted, if we get elected, we have got a big agenda to grow our economy, and make it more prosperous. so that a wage pays decently and people can build a future. we have got an agenda to fix the nhs, at the moment the hospital
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cannot cope with the backlog of of the conservative.— the conservative. what about your 'ob? this the conservative. what about your iob? this new— the conservative. what about your job? this new role _ the conservative. what about your job? this new role in _ the conservative. what about your job? this new role in the - the conservative. what about your job? this new role in the shadowl job? this new role in the shadow cabinet team _ job? this new role in the shadow cabinet team is _ job? this new role in the shadow cabinet team is preparing - job? this new role in the shadow cabinet team is preparing us - job? this new role in the shadow cabinet team is preparing us to l job? this new role in the shadow. cabinet team is preparing us to hit the ground running should be we be elected and play a part in the election campaign in the next 18 months. 15 election campaign in the next 18 months. , , , ' election campaign in the next 18 months. , , , , , months. is this reshuffle being seen as a move away _ months. is this reshuffle being seen as a move away from _ months. is this reshuffle being seen as a move away from the _ months. is this reshuffle being seen as a move away from the left - months. is this reshuffle being seen as a move away from the left and i as a move away from the left and into centre politics for labour, do you think that is enough to get you back into government? this you think that is enough to get you back into government?— back into government? this is -uttina back into government? this is -auttin a back into government? this is putting a strong _ back into government? this is putting a strong team - back into government? this is putting a strong team on - back into government? this is putting a strong team on the l back into government? this is - putting a strong team on the pitch and it reinforces the reality that the labour party is now in tune with the labour party is now in tune with the hopes and aspirations and the frustrations of the british public. people who are frustrated after 13 years of failure under the conservatives, who wants to see change because they know this conservative government has had its chance. but also have great hopes for the future, hope that their wage can allow them to build homes and families, and their children have
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the best future. the team that keir starmer put together yesterday is a strong team which will take that message to the country and my role is to be part of preparing us for that election campaign and preparing us for government should we be fortunate enough to win the election. , ., . . fortunate enough to win the election. , ., ., ., ~ , ., fortunate enough to win the election. ., ., ~ , ., ., ~ election. jonathan ashworth, thank ou for election. jonathan ashworth, thank you forjoining _ election. jonathan ashworth, thank you forjoining us. _ election. jonathan ashworth, thank you forjoining us. thank— election. jonathan ashworth, thank you forjoining us. thank you. - you for 'oining us. thank you. time you forjoining us. thank you. time to get — you forjoining us. thank you. time to get the _ you forjoining us. thank you. time to get the weather, - you forjoining us. thank you. | time to get the weather, carol you forjoining us. thank you. . time to get the weather, carol is you forjoining us. thank you. - time to get the weather, carol is at the langstone harbour. you were by the langstone harbour. you were by the water and now you are on the water, you are on a boat on the water! absolutely right. billy the harbour master has taken us out on his boat delilah and we are in the middle of the harbour and it's beautiful. we have left a jon way behind, he will have left a jon way behind, he will have to sort out his own tell now, the sun is out, not much of a breeze and the temperature is climbing. it is a beautiful start to the day. the forecast for most of us today is, when we lose the morning 's early
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morning mist and fog, it will be a dry or warm day. what is happening is we have got high pressure in charge of our weather, low pressure across siberia and in between them we are scooping up warm air from the near continent on a south—easterly and scooping up some saharan dust, so some lovely sunrises and sunsets to come this week. you might be a finding a bit of interference on your tv and radio stations, just be aware of that. the fog will burn away this morning from east anglia, away this morning from east anglia, a few showers into devon and cornwall which will move up into pembrokeshire. in between a lot of sunshine and dry conditions. the north of scotland has a weak weather front draped across it and we are looking at some drizzle coming out of that particularly around caithness a bit later on. temperatures widely in the mid to
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high 20s, locally in the south—east you could hit 30 or 31 degrees. low cloud, mist and fog coming from the north sea, across eastern scotland and north—east england, overnights that will push inland. in the west it should be dry and remaining clear, not a cold night, temperatures widely in double figures. tomorrow we start off with the low cloud, mist and fog, that will push back to the north sea. from the low ——. tomorrow temperatures widely will be in the mid to high 20s, locally in the south—east you could reach 21 —— 31. overnight in a humid night, feeding into another humid day on thursday. on thursday we could see
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thunderstorms drifting into western areas to the course of the day. low cloud quite close to the north sea coastline but under a lot of dry, sunny and very warm or hot conditions, hot in the south—east once again, we could reach 31 or 32. ben and tina, before i hand back to you, you might have heard the next surprise, we have got sven here, and also bertie. he six months old and he gorgeous? he is in there, i'm out here, i'm not taking any more chances with dogs today! but he is enjoying life by the looks of it. figs enjoying life by the looks of it. as are enjoying life by the looks of it. is are you, out there on the water. absolutely. the national television awards will be returning to our screens this evening and one of our very own documentaries is up for an award. "rob burrow: living with mnd",
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has made the final shortlist in the authored documentary category, alongside deborah james, matt willis and lewis capaldi. ant and dec are once again up for best presenter, having been nominated for the last 21 years. the winners are decided by the public. dan rosney takes a look at the nominations. we are here live tonight celebrating the biggest shows and yourfavorite stars, all with one thing in common. and what a year it's been. right, deep breath. firstly, are you ok? hamza and jowita! race up the yellow steps to the first lighthouse. . then proceed past the second lighthouse... to the finish line. let's go, let's go, let's go. oh, really? oh, really! up against call the midwife, stranger things and vera, the final series of happy valley faces competition in the returning drama category with both sarah lancashire and james norton nominated for drama performance. that boy is a prince.
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for all his ups and downs, he is about as unlike you as it's possible to be. i swear, if you really believe i'm a traitor... when it comes to the drama of reality tv, though... how do you think i feel? you've just literally set me up in front of you guys to get rid of me! how do you i think i feel? the traitors will take on sas: who dares wins, race across the world and love island. why does he want that? i don't know, but i'm not a traitor. while the documentary category showcases familiar faces who've opened up about their personal lives. # baby, baby, baby! the late dame deborahjames documenting herjourney with bowel cancer. and rob burrow living with motor neurone disease. i'm determined to get better, and i look at all the reasons i've got to live.
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and the national television award goes to ant and dec! the geordie duo have won best tv presenter for 21 years in a row. the first year we won a national television award, tony blair was the prime minister and newcastle united qualified for the champions league. thatjust goes to show how long ago that was. quick reminder of the rules, if your phone rings, you'll need to say today's passphrase. could tonight change things? it could go to itv�*s this morning's alison hammond. this is really sad! her co—host holly willoughby isn't nominated, but the show does feature in the daytime category after spinning through a tricky few months. daniel rosney, bbc news. you can still vote in this year's ntas by visiting the website. voting is open now and it closes at midday.
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in recent years bonnie langford has been best known for her role in doctor who, but now she's returning to her theatrical roots. she stars in stephen sondheim's old friends which features 39 songs from the legandary composer's work, with each cast member working on all or most of the numbers. bonnie's here to tell us more. hello. morning! now you have scared me. ithink hello. morning! now you have scared me- i think it — hello. morning! now you have scared me. i think it is _ hello. morning! now you have scared me. | think it is 41— hello. morning! now you have scared me. i think it is 41 now, _ hello. morning! now you have scared me. i think it is 41 now, they - hello. morning! now you have scared me. i think it is 41 now, they have - me. i think it is 41 now, they have added a couple.— added a couple. time much as cuickl ! added a couple. time much as quickly! and — added a couple. time much as quickly! and you _ added a couple. time much as quickly! and you are _ added a couple. time much as quickly! and you are involved l added a couple. time much as| quickly! and you are involved in every single _ quickly! and you are involved in every single one? _ quickly! and you are involved in every single one? not - quickly! and you are involved in every single one? not every - quickly! and you are involved in i every single one? not every single one. every single one? not every single one- basically _ every single one? not every single one. basically what _ every single one? not every single one. basically what it _ every single one? not every single one. basically what it is, _ every single one? not every single one. basically what it is, last i every single one? not every single one. basically what it is, last year| one. basically what it is, last year you said you came to the gala? shortly after stephen sondheim died they put on this gala performance, i wasn't quick enough to get tickets for the theatre but they did an overspill theatre and there is more demanding they are bringing it back? they filmed it, we didn't know that, they put it on on the eve and it's on the iplayer still. —— new year's
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it's so successful that we are now doing it as a season at the gielgud theatre which is next door to the one we did last year. you theatre which is next door to the one we did last year.— theatre which is next door to the one we did last year. you had some bi names one we did last year. you had some big names in _ one we did last year. you had some big names in that _ one we did last year. you had some big names in that gala _ one we did last year. you had some| big names in that gala performance, and they appeared for two or three, four songs, and then everyone came on at the end. they are sitting there backstage for a long time not being involved. this makes the most of those names being involved. filth. of those names being involved. 0h, m of those names being involved. oh, my goodness- _ of those names being involved. (1)! my goodness. they of those names being involved. (31, my goodness. they are of those names being involved. 1l my goodness. they are working of those names being involved. cl, my goodness. they are working is like you wouldn't believe! it's fabulous a chilly because an all—star cast headed by peters, broadway legend, and lea solonga, disney legend, and it is old friends, sometime's raac —— old friends, sometime's raac —— old friends, old friends as indifference, i'm hoping. stephen sondheim was this legendary composer
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lyricist who touches everyone. he died at 91 and he left this legacy of phenomenal music. west side story, he wrote the lyrics, gypsy, but also into the words, sending the park with george,, i could go on. you think of things like send in the clowns, broadway baby. it's so personal, this show. we love his work, i was involved when i was eight years old, i was on broadway in gypsy. we are showing this love for this man and his legacy. but we are doing little vignettes of the shows as well. so come and see this shows as well. so come and see this show and you will see about seven musicals, small versions of them. what is your favourite? i musicals, small versions of them. what is your favourite ?_ musicals, small versions of them. what is your favourite? i cannot say because the — what is your favourite? i cannot say because the lyrics _ what is your favourite? i cannot say because the lyrics are _ what is your favourite? i cannot say because the lyrics are pouring i what is your favourite? i cannot say because the lyrics are pouring out i because the lyrics are pouring out of my head, i wake up at 3am going,
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a weekend in the country, hey, old friend, it's very complex, but what i love about the work and what everybody loves about it is that it shows the imperfections of human nature. it's notjust we are all happy and sad, it's all those grey areas in between. he shows the idiosyncrasies of life, the madness of life and the fun, it's very witty, very funny. and i think it's going to be quite a theatrical event. we did it last year for going to be quite a theatrical event. we did it last yearfor one day. now it's 16 weeks at the gielgud. day. now it's 16 weeks at the giel: ud. ., , day. now it's 16 weeks at the gieluud. ., , , gielgud. there really is something for everyone- _ gielgud. there really is something for everyone. you _ gielgud. there really is something for everyone. you touched - gielgud. there really is something for everyone. you touched on i gielgud. there really is something for everyone. you touched on the | for everyone. you touched on the personal connection to sondheim, that probably makes it even more special for you. that probably makes it even more special for you-— special for you. when i was eight ears old special for you. when i was eight years old i— special for you. when i was eight years old i was — special for you. when i was eight years old i was in _ special for you. when i was eight years old i was in the _ special for you. when i was eight years old i was in the musical i special for you. when i was eight i years old i was in the musical gypsy with angela lansbury at the piccadilly theatre and i was taken to america with the show and i was on broadway at the age of nine. stephen sondheim wrote the lyrics for that, things like everything is
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coming up roses, let me entertain you was my song. it was such a magnificent experience to be in the company of people like that, arthur lawrence directed it, he wrote it, he wrote west side story and various other things, and such a standard to be working with. we are all part of the ensemble as we say in this show, so we are all doing four—part harmonies and all of these crazy lyrics, we have all got used to standing in the centre and learning the tune. so it's magnificent but it's very much a team effort. we aren'tjust it's very much a team effort. we aren't just walking it's very much a team effort. we aren'tjust walking on and singing one number, we are all in the whole show. it's quite a mammoth event. obviously, we have got to ask you about doctor who. i know you cannot spoil the surprise for people looking forward to seeing it but it must be exciting to make a return to the show. and i suppose be among old
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friends. ~ , , ., ~ the show. and i suppose be among old friends. , ., ~ ., friends. absolutely, thank you for sa inc friends. absolutely, thank you for saying that _ friends. absolutely, thank you for saying that again, _ friends. absolutely, thank you for saying that again, we _ friends. absolutely, thank you for saying that again, we will- friends. absolutely, thank you for saying that again, we will keep i saying that again, we will keep saying that again, we will keep saying it! there are very fewjobs that you do that keep coming back and i always say that doctor who is the gift that keeps on giving. i was assistant to the sixth and seventh doctors, not fifth and sixth, i can't remember! 50 doctors, not fifth and sixth, i can't remember!— doctors, not fifth and sixth, i can't remember! ., , ., m can't remember! so many doctors! so many doctors. — can't remember! so many doctors! so many doctors. too _ can't remember! so many doctors! so many doctors, too little _ can't remember! so many doctors! so many doctors, too little time! - can't remember! so many doctors! so many doctors, too little time! i - can't remember! so many doctors! so many doctors, too little time! i am i many doctors, too little time! i am back as melanie bush, and it's so exciting. because the show is so much bigger than it had has been before but it has a gorgeous heart, two hearts! the fans are so loyal and i think they are going to be very excited. bud and i think they are going to be very excited-— and i think they are going to be very excited. and the new doctor ncuti gatwa. _ very excited. and the new doctor ncuti gatwa, are _ very excited. and the new doctor ncuti gatwa, are you _ very excited. and the new doctor ncuti gatwa, are you excited i very excited. and the new doctor ncuti gatwa, are you excited to l very excited. and the new doctor. ncuti gatwa, are you excited to be working with him?— working with him? yes, it's got a treat working with him? yes, it's got a great heart _ working with him? yes, it's got a great heart and _ working with him? yes, it's got a great heart and a _ working with him? yes, it's got a great heart and a great _
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working with him? yes, it's got a great heart and a great legacy, i working with him? yes, it's got a i great heart and a great legacy, it's notjust great heart and a great legacy, it's not just an adventure great heart and a great legacy, it's notjust an adventure show, it has a lot of love for it. it brings so much freshness as well. and that's important, seeing something that has great foundations. haifa important, seeing something that has great foundations.— great foundations. how much is a chan . e great foundations. how much is a change since _ great foundations. how much is a change since he _ great foundations. how much is a change since he first _ great foundations. how much is a change since he first worked i great foundations. how much is a change since he first worked on i great foundations. how much is a | change since he first worked on it? the budget is bigger, that's for sure, you don't have any wobbly scenery and strange monsters! it has changed as in it isjust bigger, but the world has changed. even when i was in the show is 30 odd years ago, technology was surpassing what you could do on screen. and now it's different, we are able to do so much more. it's so important that it has charm and heart which has got still. and i can't really tell you anything more! i and i can't really tell you anything more! ., , ., ., and i can't really tell you anything more! .,, ., ., and i can't really tell you anything more! ., ~ , more! i was going to say, keep talkin: , more! i was going to say, keep talking, though, _ more! i was going to say, keep talking, though, it _ more! i was going to say, keep talking, though, it is _ more! i was going to say, keep talking, though, it is terrific i more! i was going to say, keep talking, though, it is terrific to | talking, though, it is terrific to be part of it. talking, though, it is terrific to be part of it— talking, though, it is terrific to be part of it. talking, though, it is terrific to be artofit. ~ ., ., ., , be part of it. what i love about my work is so — be part of it. what i love about my work is so often _ be part of it. what i love about my
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work is so often i _ be part of it. what i love about my work is so often i am _ be part of it. what i love about my work is so often i am able - be part of it. what i love about my work is so often i am able to i be part of it. what i love about my work is so often i am able to be i work is so often i am able to be among fabulous people old and new and we are able to bring all that together, life is constantly regenerating! oh, that's clever! that was very good!— regenerating! oh, that's clever! that was very good! what a great way to finish! come _ that was very good! what a great way to finish! come and _ that was very good! what a great way to finish! come and see _ that was very good! what a great way to finish! come and see us _ that was very good! what a great way to finish! come and see us again i that was very good! what a great way to finish! come and see us again at i to finish! come and see us again at old friends, _ to finish! come and see us again at old friends, it's _ to finish! come and see us again at old friends, it's going _ to finish! come and see us again at old friends, it's going to _ to finish! come and see us again at old friends, it's going to be - old friends, it's going to be fantastic. old friends, it's going to be fantastic-— old friends, it's going to be fantastic. ., ., ., fantastic. looking forward to it, can't wait- _ fantastic. looking forward to it, can't wait. and _ fantastic. looking forward to it, can't wait. and i _ fantastic. looking forward to it, can't wait. and i must - fantastic. looking forward to it, can't wait. and i must say i can't wait. and i must say congratulation _ can't wait. and i must say congratulation because i can't wait. and i must say l congratulation because two can't wait. and i must say i congratulation because two of can't wait. and i must say - congratulation because two of our cars are graduating today, we aren't all old! raac of our cast. —— two of our cast. you can watch bonnie in stephen sondheim's old friends from the 16th of september.
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very good morning. welcome to the nation's phone in. so, the government on the raac, here is the question. concrete chaos: who's to blame? gillian keegan had the thick of out, a great programme, moment yesterday, a great programme, moment yesterday, a lot of you are in thick of it, what is going on. she said, that she is doing a good job while everyone
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sits on that back sides and does nothing, some key words there to protect the innocence. keep it clean, who is responsible, how do we fix it, how widespread is the problem? how do we pay for it? the key f word is is a couple of consonants grey the word she used, funding, and of course if we are talking about where the buck stop, the backdrop to the blame game is some pupils face being taught in temporary classroom, forced to remote lessons like during the pandemic, not good. a lot of c words, cowen crete and conservatives, some of the tory supporting newspapers are at the end of their tether today, here is the question. concrete chaos, who is to blame?
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