good morning. morning. it is the nation's phone in on a friday morning. a year of king charles: your verdict? a rain check. the king of canada, the king of papua new anyone any, king of australia, who is he supporting in the rugby world cup? support across and for the commonwealth for example is in decline, would be great to hearfrom people with roots in any of those lands. popularity among the young, a real problem. similar problem to the conservative party, an ageing support base, and there is less support base, and there is less support in his beloved scotland, the

kilt not withstanding, a huge well of respect for the late queen, i don't need to tell you that, her sense of duty, dedication and service, even for many who are not naturally inclined monarchists. apathy, there is at will of apathy there. phone in debate, it is difficult to tap into apathy. hey, call us if you don't care. but, they need people to care, and many of you to care, very strongly either way, head of state in a changing britain. there is a touch of who are we? who are we right now? and allow me to trigger you. are we right now? and allow me to triggeryou. prince are we right now? and allow me to trigger you. prince andrew, and also there is william and harry, as well. so, plenty to talk about a year on, is the monarchy in safe hands? an entire intro with without mentioning meghan. call us now.

here is the news the metropolitan police say they're searching areas of richmond park in london, linked to the hunt for a man who escaped from prison on wednesday. daniel khalife got out of wandsworth jail by strapping himself underneath a delivery lorry. security searches are like to continue all weekend if necessary. rishi sunak is flying to delhi for the 620 summit, a meeting of the 19 richest nations and the eu. the prime minister will also hold separate talks with india's narendra modi, to discuss a possible free trade deal. the government says no contracts have been awarded to build seven off—shore wind farms. the news is a blow to efforts to produce more energy from renewable sources. the king has spoken of queen elizabeth's "devoted

service" in a message to mark the first anniversary of her death. charles also expressed his gratitude for the love and support he'd received from the public. yes, the monarchy, many people hugely impressed with prince charles so far, there were reports in the sunday times though, that he had been rather surprised by how difficult the job is, been rather surprised by how difficult thejob is, how hard been rather surprised by how difficult the job is, how hard you have to work, the blizzard of stuff coming ater you from all directions, so, he is the man with the ming vase at the moment. we were all asking what the country would be like under king charles iii. iii. one of the when days in the daily mail says his

first year has reinforced royalty�*s granite sense of performance, robert hardman, good morning. he hasjust gone hardman, good morning. he has just gone to the loo i am hearing! vase at the moment. we were all asking what the country would be like under king charles iii. one of the when days in the daily mail says his first year has reinforced royalty�*s granite sense of performance, robert hardman, good morning. he hasjust gone morning. he has just gone to the loo i am hearing! the royal "wee" one might say. we will get on to him. i was full of it, i was just, say. we will get on to him. i was full of it, i wasjust, you know, turbo charged there, so we will go to our correspondent rebecca curran, but which want to hear from you, we want to hear from you it is 08085 909693, text 85058. king rant is back. good morning robert. good morning nicky. sorry. d0 back. good morning robert. good morning nicky. sorry. do not apologise- — good morning nicky. sorry. do not apologise. please. _ good morning nicky. sorry. do not apologise. please. we _ good morning nicky. sorry. do not apologise. please. we have - good morning nicky. sorry. do not apologise. please. we have mick. apologise. please. we have mick wright a republican, good morning mick. , ., mick. good morning. good to _ mick. good morning. good to have - mick. good morning. good to have you. i mick. good morning. | good to have you. so mick. good morning. - good to have you. so robert mick. good morning. _ good to have you. so robert hardman, this quote today charles' first year has reinforced royalty�*s granite sense of performance, good word, granite. curve conjures up aberdeen

the north east of scotland. they love that part of world. what do you mean? ~ �* , , ., ., mean? well it's where they are at the moment. _ mean? well it's where they are at the moment, aberdeenshire, - mean? well it's where they are at the moment, aberdeenshire, hel mean? well it's where they are at| the moment, aberdeenshire, he is mean? well it's where they are at - the moment, aberdeenshire, he is up at balmoral, permanence was the word i had in there, because i think what the last year has shown us, i mean, it is that the institution is greater than the individual. you know, this time a year ago there was a lot of thought, people thought elizabeth ii, impossible to follow, one of the greats, and it is all over. and what's recently been shown is that is not the case. you know, the monarchy carries on because it's sort of central to the nation's state, it is a system of government that most people, certainly not all, and i am sure mick will tell me otherwise, a large amount of people are happy with the system we have and it has served is us well. in times of turbulence and trouble and

turmoil, people like institutions that are solid, and, you know, my central argument always for the monarchy, it is not rational, i get that, however, it is a system where your armed force, judiciary, honours system, everything, essentially boils down to a non—politician. it just means it's that much harder for the bad guys to get their hands on the bad guys to get their hands on the leaders of power.— the leaders of power. sorry to get the leaders of power. sorry to get the wron: the leaders of power. sorry to get the wrong p _ the leaders of power. sorry to get the wrong p word, _ the leaders of power. sorry to get the wrong p word, my _ the leaders of power. sorry to get the wrong p word, my apologies l the leaders of power. sorry to get i the wrong p word, my apologies for that, permanence, performance there is a lot that that. continuity, tradition, the things we rely on, the very backbone of what we are and who we are, there are huge challenges robert, do you remember the protestor, you know, not in my name, not my king, the commonwealth, supporting the commonwealth is in sharp decline in many places, those countries as well. i

sharp decline in many places, those countries as well.— countries as well. i pick up on that, nicky. _ countries as well. i pick up on that, nicky, think, _ countries as well. i pick up on that, nicky, think, yes, - countries as well. i pick up on that, nicky, think, yes, there| countries as well. i pick up on l that, nicky, think, yes, there is countries as well. i pick up on - that, nicky, think, yes, there is in some of the realms in which the king is head of state, there a move to get rid of him, that is clear. the commonwealth itself is bigger than it has ever been. had eight members when the queen took it over. the commonwealth games is the very future of that is in doubt. but commonwealth games is the very future of that is in doubt.- future of that is in doubt. but the commonwealth _ future of that is in doubt. but the commonwealth itself _ future of that is in doubt. but the commonwealth itself has - future of that is in doubt. but the commonwealth itself has never l future of that is in doubt. but the - commonwealth itself has never been bigger and this idea that you know, it is, that suddenly everyone is turning round and saying we must shed our links with the crown, the monarchy, most, all the new recent recruits to the commonwealth, the latest two being togo and bah gone —— gabon are countries that were never part of the old british empire. the commonwealth is in good health, bits of which where the king is king are saying it is time to move on. of course he has challenges with the sussexes in los angeles, you mentioned earlier about what about prince andrew, these are

charges, but the central point is that the, it is far more popular than people imagine and it is way more popular than any alterntive. mick right. i will let you in here to respond. mick right. i will let you in here to remind-— to respond. this is the position that republicans _ to respond. this is the position that republicans are _ to respond. this is the position that republicans are in, - to respond. this is the position that republicans are in, is - to respond. this is the position that republicans are in, is to l that republicans are in, is to respond _ that republicans are in, is to respond to, but that is fine, one of the thing _ respond to, but that is fine, one of the thing i— respond to, but that is fine, one of the thing i would say. i respond to, but that is fine, one of the thing i would say.— the thing i would say. i could have come to you _ the thing i would say. i could have come to you first _ the thing i would say. i could have come to you first then _ the thing i would say. i could have come to you first then it _ the thing i would say. i could have come to you first then it would - the thing i would say. i could have i come to you first then it would have been him to respond. it is alwaysing because the — been him to respond. it is alwaysing because the republican _ been him to respond. it is alwaysing because the republican argument i been him to respond. it is alwaysing because the republican argument isj been him to respond. it is alwaysing i because the republican argument is a usually— because the republican argument is a usually an— because the republican argument is a usually an afterthought hand is one of the _ usually an afterthought hand is one of the reasons are it account be challenging to talk about the monarchy in this country, and other options. _ monarchy in this country, and other options. i_ monarchy in this country, and other options, i always use the example of brexit. _ options, i always use the example of brexit, brexit was not hugely puputar— brexit, brexit was not hugely popular or central to the debate, untit— popular or central to the debate, until people who wanted to leave the european _ until people who wanted to leave the european union got their voices in the media — european union got their voices in the media with regularity, and it is quite _ the media with regularity, and it is quite difficult for republican voices— quite difficult for republican voices to be heard, i was, i

quite difficult for republican voices to be heard, iwas, i broke the story— voices to be heard, iwas, i broke the story of— voices to be heard, iwas, i broke the story of the arrests on coronation day where republic had some _ coronation day where republic had some protesters who had been approved — some protesters who had been approved to protest and then were arrested _ approved to protest and then were arrested and held for the whole day, including _ arrested and held for the whole day, including keeping graeme smith the head of— including keeping graeme smith the head of republic locked up for the whole _ head of republic locked up for the whole day so he couldn't be on the media _ whole day so he couldn't be on the media the — whole day so he couldn't be on the media. the metropolitan police would they is _ media. the metropolitan police would they is not _ media. the metropolitan police would they is not why they did it but that would _ they is not why they did it but that would he — they is not why they did it but that would be my opinion on that, and when _ would be my opinion on that, and when you — would be my opinion on that, and when you look at, you know, robert is right— when you look at, you know, robert is right to _ when you look at, you know, robert is right to say support for the monarchy— is right to say support for the monarchy is still quite strong, look at where _ monarchy is still quite strong, look at where the support comes from, the majority_ at where the support comes from, the majority in _ at where the support comes from, the majority in the over 65s, in the over— majority in the over 65s, in the over 50, — majority in the over 65s, in the over 50, go _ majority in the over 65s, in the over 50, go down to the 18—24 and support— over 50, go down to the 18—24 and support is— over 50, go down to the 18—24 and support is round 37%. so... over 50, go down to the 18-24 and support is round 37%. so... falling off, es. support is round 37%. so... falling off, yes- it— support is round 37%. so... falling off, yes. it is _ support is round 37%. so... falling off, yes. it is falling _ support is round 37%. so... falling off, yes. it is falling off. _ support is round 37%. so... falling off, yes. it is falling off. i- support is round 37%. so... falling off, yes. it is falling off. i would i off, yes. it is falling off. i would aruue off, yes. it is falling off. i would argue that _ off, yes. it is falling off. i would argue that we — off, yes. it is falling off. i would argue that we have _ off, yes. it is falling off. i would argue that we have a _ off, yes. it is falling off. i would argue that we have a crumbling | argue that we have a crumbling monarchy— argue that we have a crumbling monarchy ruling over a crumbling nation, _ monarchy ruling over a crumbling nation, and — monarchy ruling over a crumbling nation, and my problem, when you look at _ nation, and my problem, when you look at king — nation, and my problem, when you look at king charles's first year is we have — look at king charles's first year is we have a — look at king charles's first year is

we have a nation state that is in terrible — we have a nation state that is in terrible crisis in many area, schools _ terrible crisis in many area, schools pauling apart. hospitals falling _ schools pauling apart. hospitals falling apart. nhs is real, real trouble, — falling apart. nhs is real, real trouble, and this constant talk about— trouble, and this constant talk about our— trouble, and this constant talk about our ability to present pomp, and majesty is kind of grotesque, to my view, _ and majesty is kind of grotesque, to my view, because we have got people in horrible _ my view, because we have got people in horrible poverty and then we have man in— in horrible poverty and then we have man in a _ in horrible poverty and then we have man in a special hat, and when you take it _ man in a special hat, and when you take it down — man in a special hat, and when you take it down to brass tacks, that is a problem — take it down to brass tacks, that is a problem. you know, the monarchy, i don't _ a problem. you know, the monarchy, i don't understand what it serves is other— don't understand what it serves is other than— don't understand what it serves is other than to satisfy you know, holding — other than to satisfy you know, holding on to a notion of a britain that doesn't exist any more, and perhaps— that doesn't exist any more, and perhaps you know, never did exist, because _ perhaps you know, never did exist, because we — perhaps you know, never did exist, because we also know that a lot of the pomp, — because we also know that a lot of the pomp, circumstances, pageantry that we_ the pomp, circumstances, pageantry that we are _ the pomp, circumstances, pageantry that we are told is like a thousand years— that we are told is like a thousand years old — that we are told is like a thousand years old isn't really. you know, queen— years old isn't really. you know, queen victoria's coronation wasn't as big, _ queen victoria's coronation wasn't as big, some of those before her, lots of—

as big, some of those before her, lots of her— as big, some of those before her, lots of her you know predecessors didn't— lots of her you know predecessors didn't want— lots of her you know predecessors didn't want to have a coronation at all. didn't want to have a coronation at all so— didn't want to have a coronation at all so we — didn't want to have a coronation at all. so we have this thing of a lot of what _ all. so we have this thing of a lot of what we — all. so we have this thing of a lot of what we are told about the monarchy is more myth and legend and that reality _ monarchy is more myth and legend and that reality and a myth and legends formed _ that reality and a myth and legends formed realfully the late 19th and earlier— formed realfully the late 19th and earlier 20 oath century. gk. formed realfully the late 19th and earlier 20 oath century.— formed realfully the late 19th and earlier 20 oath century. 0k. let us talk about whether _ earlier 20 oath century. 0k. let us talk about whether he _ earlier 20 oath century. 0k. let us talk about whether he can - earlier 20 oath century. 0k. let us talk about whether he can take - earlier 20 oath century. 0k. let us talk about whether he can take it i talk about whether he can take it forward, whether he can maintain its popularity, whether he can stem the tide of those who are everything from apathetic to... what a phrase, let me put that one out there again, a crumbling monarchy, ruling over a crumbling macing. it is a crumbling monarchy, ruling over a crumbling macing.— crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for a _ crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for a nation. _ crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for a nation. that _ crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for a nation. that is - crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for a nation. that is one - crumbling macing. it is almost like i write for a nation. that is one to l i write for a nation. that is one to chew on robert. _ i write for a nation. that is one to chew on robert. robert - i write for a nation. that is one to chew on robert. robert i - i write for a nation. that is one to chew on robert. robert i am - i write for a nation. that is one to - chew on robert. robert i am tempted to say, respond. please do so. here is a thing you can talk about the crumble in a second. but, you know,

king of australia? king of antigua, king of australia? king of antigua, king of australia? king of antigua, king of the bahamas, of bell leads, king of the bahamas, of bell leads, king of the bahamas, of bell leads, king of canada, king ofjamaica, king of canada, king ofjamaica, king of canada, king ofjamaica, king of st christopher, king of lucia. snoop tbs, king of st christopher, king of lucia- snoo— lucia. snoop a few territory, gibraltar. — lucia. snoop a few territory, gibraltar, falkland _ lucia. snoop a few territory, gibraltar, falkland islands. i lucia. snoop a few territory, . gibraltar, falkland islands. king lucia. snoop a few territory, - gibraltar, falkland islands. king of new zealand- _ gibraltar, falkland islands. king of new zealand. yes. _ gibraltar, falkland islands. king of new zealand. yes. really? - gibraltar, falkland islands. king of new zealand. yes. really? yes, i gibraltar, falkland islands. king of. new zealand. yes. really? yes, yes. i mean, i new zealand. yes. really? yes, yes. i mean. i know— new zealand. yes. really? yes, yes. i mean, i know really, _ new zealand. yes. really? yes, yes. i mean, i know really, but, _ new zealand. yes. really? yes, yes. i mean, i know really, but, doesn't. i mean, i know really, but, doesn't that, doesn't that stuff sound ludicrous and bizarre, for those people. ludicrous and bizarre, for those --eole. ., . ., ludicrous and bizarre, for those --eole. ., ., ., ., ludicrous and bizarre, for those theole, ., ., ., ., , .,, people. you have to ask the people of those countries. _ people. you have to ask the people of those countries. increasingly - of those countries. increasingly the are of those countries. increasingly they are being _ of those countries. increasingly they are being asked _ of those countries. increasingly they are being asked and - of those countries. increasingly they are being asked and they i of those countries. increasingly i they are being asked and they are saying it is ludicrous.— saying it is ludicrous. there is an arc ument saying it is ludicrous. there is an argument this— saying it is ludicrous. there is an argument this is _ saying it is ludicrous. there is an argument this is lingering - argument this is lingering imperialism and the monarchy are clinging on, the only reason he is king is because that is the will of the people. when the countries

became autonomous, and they are as independent as we are, as france, germany or usa, that i can do what they like, they chose to retain the crown, and the crown is only there because people want it. now, if there are referenda and there will be, people decide they don't want it will it will go. in those countries where it has been put to the people, most notably australia, in 1999, the media class, the establishment, everyone thought the crown was going to go and guess what the people turned round said we don't want another politician, we are quite happy with this system. it wasn't a vote, a personal vote for mrs elizabeth when or it was a vote for the system. that could change, the current australian prime minister, he has a ministerfor the republic, had been he is a republican, across the caribbean there are strong voices says it is time we moved on but maybe it is. but the argument the monarchy clinging on, it is not, it is there because it was invited.

papaya new guinea was going to be a republic but they asked the queen to be head of state. that republic but they asked the queen to be head of state.— be head of state. that was 1973. slade were _ be head of state. that was 1973. slade were at — be head of state. that was 1973. slade were at number _ be head of state. that was 1973. slade were at number one, - be head of state. that was 1973. slade were at number one, it's i be head of state. that was 1973. | slade were at number one, it's a long time ago. i slade were at number one, it's a long time age-— slade were at number one, it's a long time ago. i know, but longer when she became _ long time ago. i know, but longer when she became queen, - long time ago. i know, but longer when she became queen, queen| when she became queen, queen victoria became the first queen of canada, all these things could change, it could happen, there could be votes and if, that has been the point of the money kirk it stands for demock circumstance it is not us saying we are not going, the king has said ate, made a major speech in 1994 in australia, he said you decide, let us do it am cably. hagar decide, let us do it am cably. how do they turn _ decide, let us do it am cably. how do they turn it _ decide, let us do it am cably. how do they turn it round _ decide, let us do it am cably. how do they turn it round for the young, as mick said, what is the answer? it as mick said, what is the answer? it is a valid point, you look, it was ever thus, is a valid point, you look, it was everthus, it is a valid point, you look, it was ever thus, it has been the case that... ~ ., ., , ., ., ever thus, it has been the case that... ., ., , ., ., . that... what does that mean? was it ever thus? — that... what does that mean? was it ever thus? serious, _ that... what does that mean? was it ever thus? serious, people - that... what does that mean? was it ever thus? serious, people say - that... what does that mean? was it ever thus? serious, people say that, j ever thus? serious, people say that, was it? it

ever thus? serious, people say that, was it? , ., ,., ., . ever thus? serious, people say that, was it? , ., , ., ., . ., was it? it is more pronounced now, i acce -t was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that — was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that but _ was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that but if _ was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that but if you _ was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that but if you look _ was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that but if you look at - was it? it is more pronounced now, i accept that but if you look at the - accept that but if you look at the polling back in the 80, 90, i started writing about this in the �*905 it started writing about this in the �*90s it wases the case that young people tended to be more apathetic, less interested than the older generation, that is the way it is. i totally get, if you look at the polling when you get down to the 18-30 polling when you get down to the 18—30 area, people are much less enthusiastic about the monarchy, they are not overtly pro a republic, they are not overtly pro a republic, they are not overtly pro a republic, they are just apathetic. the greatest challenge is not republican, it is not the mob at the gates it is relevance, if it ceases to be relevant people wake up and say why have we got this thing? they from the to stay relevant. i will say why have we got this thing? they from the to stay relevant.— from the to stay relevant. i will be with ou from the to stay relevant. i will be with you in — from the to stay relevant. i will be with you in a _ from the to stay relevant. i will be with you in a moment _ from the to stay relevant. i will be with you in a moment mick, - from the to stay relevant. i will be with you in a moment mick, it - from the to stay relevant. i will be with you in a moment mick, it is i from the to stay relevant. i will be | with you in a moment mick, it is all properly balanced, you know know me mick. it is right along the line. let us speak to rebecca curran, who is at balmoral. rebecca, they are

there, or he is there today, who else is there and what is happening? well, nicky, we do know that the king is here, we know the queen is here too, who else we are not quite sure, we may find out in the next few hours, but, here of course, is the day, is the place where the late queen elizabeth ii spent herfinal day, she died here, a place she is known to have loved, the place she is said to have been at her happiest, this is where king charles has chosen to spent today, quietly reflecting, we are told, not only the death of his mother buzz the day that he acceded to the throne, a year ago today. now there is not going to be any ceremonial events taking place across the country, there are will be some gun sat lieutenants taking place in edinburgh castle, the tower of london and hyde park, i don't know if you can see behind me there are

some peoplejust if you can see behind me there are some people just laying floral tributes, there has been a steady stream throughout this morning, people wanting today their well wishes and to mark the anniversary today. now, we know that the king and queen are going to be leaving the castle at some point, to make the castle at some point, to make the short journey to the castle at some point, to make the shortjourney to a church where they will take part in a private service and prayer, they will be joined we are told by a small group from balmoral castle. question don't know if that group will include any senior royals, we know the prince and princess of wales are attending and princess of wales are attending a service at st david's cathedral in wales, so they won't be there, they are expected to meet to locals in wales and mark the passing of the late her majesty queen elizabeth there. late her ma'esty queen elizabeth there. ., ~' ,, late her ma'esty queen elizabeth there. . ,, i. ., late her ma'esty queen elizabeth there. . ,, ., ., , there. thank you for that rebecca. rebecca curran _ there. thank you for that rebecca. rebecca curran who _ there. thank you for that rebecca. rebecca curran who is _ there. thank you for that rebecca. rebecca curran who is at _ there. thank you for that rebecca. | rebecca curran who is at balmoral, what is going on and whopp is there? i wonderfuler who is there that we

don't know is there. that is the thing. listen, ilike don't know is there. that is the thing. listen, i like putting people together, mick right is where us, who is not a massive fan of the royal family, we are talking about prince charles, i used to call him that and it is a lifetime of calling him prince charles, i do apologise. king charles, is the monarchy safe with him? because there are challenge, i want to put you together, mick, with anita atkinson, thank you anita, to explain the magic to mick, because mick doesn't get it. and also i will bring on gill, who is in essex. good morning gill. how are you? i gill, who is in essex. good morning gill. how are you?— gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill, gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill. i — gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill, i want _ gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill, i want you _ gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill, i want you to _ gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill, i want you to discuss - gill. how are you? i am fine. anita and gill, i want you to discuss this| and gill, i want you to discuss this with mick. how are you doing anita, big day today. it is, a full year without the queen. but i think the first thing i want... haifa without the queen. but i think the first thing i want. . ._ first thing i want... how do you feel about _ first thing i want... how do you feel about that _ first thing i want... how do you feel about that what _

first thing i want... how do you feel about that what is - first thing i want... how do you feel about that what is it - first thing i want... how do you | feel about that what is it feeling for you? it feel about that what is it feeling for ou? ., , , feel about that what is it feeling for ou? . , , ., feel about that what is it feeling for ou? , ., , ., , ., for you? it has been a strange year, ou for you? it has been a strange year, you know. — for you? it has been a strange year, you know, especially _ for you? it has been a strange year, you know, especially for _ for you? it has been a strange year, you know, especially for people - for you? it has been a strange year, you know, especially for people likej you know, especially for people like me, without someone they have had for the whole of my life, it has been a very strange year, but i am quite a pragmatic person, you know, you have you to move on, and, you know, as soon as the queen died, my allegiance passed immediately to the king so i have been watching him. i i was there at the coronation, i would say this, to mick, the republican, that i agree wholeheartedly, with you, on the protests, i was there, the coronation, i didn't see any protest, clearly i didn't because they got rid of them. did not agree with that, what i do agree with is freedom, and i may not agree with bah what you have to say but i would defend it with my last breath their right do that, their right to protest. right do that, their right to rotest. ., right do that, their right to rotest. . ., right do that, their right to protest-_ l - right do that, their right to i

protest._ i wasn't right do that, their right to - protest._ i wasn't happy protest. hear, hear. iwasn't happy about that at _ protest. hear, hear. iwasn't happy about that at all. _ protest. hear, hear. iwasn't happy about that at all. what, _ protest. hear, hear. iwasn't happy about that at all. what, for - protest. hear, hear. iwasn't happy about that at all. what, for you, i about that at all. what, for you, the endearing _ about that at all. what, for you, the endearing and _ about that at all. what, for you, the endearing and enduring i about that at all. what, for you, i the endearing and enduring nature of the endearing and enduring nature of the royal family? what is the word, the royal family? what is the word, the permanence, explain that to mick? ~ , ., , ., the permanence, explain that to mick? ~ , ., , �* ., the permanence, explain that to mick? , ., , �* ., ., mick? well, yeah, you see, i'm not a ro al mick? well, yeah, you see, i'm not a royal superfan. _ mick? well, yeah, you see, i'm not a royal superfan, i'm _ mick? well, yeah, you see, i'm not a royal superfan, i'm a _ mick? well, yeah, you see, i'm not a royal superfan, i'm a monarchist i mick? well, yeah, you see, i'm not a royal superfan, i'm a monarchist and| royal superfan, i'm a monarchist and i keep saying this and i support monarchies round the world, notjust ours and i have made, i have researched the history of monarchies round the world for 45 years and i look now, at countries that used to be monarchies, that aren't any longer and i look at the dark days, that they have had to go through, all of them, there isn't one that has hands unless mick knows better than i do, yes i am a monarchist and i always have somebody to call back on, it used to be the queen, now it is the king. the other thing i a

degree with mick is we do have a crumbling nation, we do, but the one thing we have got, the one thing thatis thing we have got, the one thing that is constant is the monarch, that is constant is the monarch, thatis that is constant is the monarch, that is the thing that never change, yes, the whole country is crumbling round us, literally, with buildings, but we still have the king, we still have the monarch. he but we still have the king, we still have the monarch.— have the monarch. he is the concrete. — have the monarch. he is the concrete, when _ have the monarch. he is the concrete, when i _ have the monarch. he is the concrete, when i say - have the monarch. he is the i concrete, when i say concrete, i mean proper concrete. not the one in the news recently. he is the one keeping it all together for you. yes. yeah. he is the one to look up to. , ., yes. yeah. he is the one to look up to. , . ., yes. yeah. he is the one to look up to. , ., ., ., , to. gill, add to that gill. then we will brina to. gill, add to that gill. then we will bring mick _ to. gill, add to that gill. then we will bring mick in. _ to. gill, add to that gill. then we will bring mick in. thanks - to. gill, add to that gill. then we will bring mick in. thanks for i will bring mick in. thanks for getting in touch. i suppose you agree, i assume you agree, a lot what you heard.— what you heard. everything that revious what you heard. everything that previous lady — what you heard. everything that previous lady has _ what you heard. everything that previous lady has said, - what you heard. everything that previous lady has said, is i what you heard. everything that | previous lady has said, is exactly how i_ previous lady has said, is exactly how i feel — previous lady has said, is exactly how i feel. without the monarchy i feel this _ how i feel. without the monarchy i feel this country would be a lot sadder— feel this country would be a lot sadder place, because like you say, they are _

sadder place, because like you say, they are the — sadder place, because like you say, they are the main stay of our lives, in my— they are the main stay of our lives, in my opinion — they are the main stay of our lives, in my opinion and i do agree that we are the _ in my opinion and i do agree that we are the sort— in my opinion and i do agree that we are the sort of country that people are the sort of country that people are entitled to have different viewpoints and they should be listened — viewpoints and they should be listened to and heard, but there is always— listened to and heard, but there is always the — listened to and heard, but there is always the time and the place to make _ always the time and the place to make your— always the time and the place to make your statement, i think. but any way— make your statement, i think. but any way i — make your statement, i think. but any way i do — make your statement, i think. but any way i do think that he is you know. _ any way i do think that he is you know. he — any way i do think that he is you know, he has carried on and doing exactly— know, he has carried on and doing exactly what his mother did, and he is doing _ exactly what his mother did, and he is doing a _ exactly what his mother did, and he is doing a really good job, that is my opinion, any way. is doing a really good “ob, that is my opinion, any way.i my opinion, any way. much love still, mick _ my opinion, any way. much love still, mick for _ my opinion, any way. much love still, mick for the _ my opinion, any way. much love still, mick for the royal - my opinion, any way. much love still, mick for the royal family. | still, mick for the royal family. and for prince andrew, perhaps not, but for king charles definitely. yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of a, a— yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of a, a kind— yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of a, a kind of— yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of a, a kind of mousetrap, _ yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of a, a kind of mousetrap, you - yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of a, a kind of mousetrap, you havel yeah, i mean, i mean it is a bit of. a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in— a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here _ a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here-— a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here.- not— a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here.- not you, - a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here.- not you, but i a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here. sorry. not you, but in. a, a kind of mousetrap, you have put me in here. sorry. not you, but in ai me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense, me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense. in — me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense. in the _ me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense, in the sense _ me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense, in the sense that _ me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense, in the sense that these i me in here. sorry. not you, but in a sense, in the sense that these two i sense, in the sense that these two ladies _ sense, in the sense that these two ladies are — sense, in the sense that these two ladies are really— sense, in the sense that these two ladies are really love _ sense, in the sense that these two ladies are really love the _ sense, in the sense that these two. ladies are really love the monarchy, they think— ladies are really love the monarchy, they think say — ladies are really love the monarchy,

they think say it _ ladies are really love the monarchy, they think say it good _ ladies are really love the monarchy, they think say it good thing - ladies are really love the monarchy, they think say it good thing and i they think say it good thing and then— they think say it good thing and then i_ they think say it good thing and then i am — they think say it good thing and then i am here _ they think say it good thing and then i am here to— they think say it good thing and then i am here to sort- they think say it good thing and then i am here to sort of- they think say it good thing and then i am here to sort of go... i they think say it good thing and i then i am here to sort of go... the? then i am here to sort of go... they think it is an — then i am here to sort of go... they think it is an important _ then i am here to sort of go... tip;- think it is an important thing, then i am here to sort of go... think it is an important thing, the glue of the nation, the concrete of the nation, you know. but glue of the nation, the concrete of the nation, you know.— glue of the nation, the concrete of the nation, you know. but the point i would the nation, you know. but the point i would make _ the nation, you know. but the point i would make is, _ the nation, you know. but the point i would make is, and _ the nation, you know. but the point i would make is, and to _ the nation, you know. but the point i would make is, and to go - the nation, you know. but the point i would make is, and to go back- the nation, you know. but the point i would make is, and to go back to l i would make is, and to go back to something — i would make is, and to go back to something robert— i would make is, and to go back to something robert was _ i would make is, and to go back to something robert was saying i i would make is, and to go back to i something robert was saying before, it is that _ something robert was saying before, it is that republicans _ something robert was saying before, it is that republicans are _ something robert was saying before, it is that republicans are often - it is that republicans are often framed — it is that republicans are often framed as _ it is that republicans are often framed as either— it is that republicans are often framed as either not _ it is that republicans are often framed as either not proud i it is that republicans are often framed as either not proud ofi it is that republicans are often i framed as either not proud of the nation, _ framed as either not proud of the nation, not — framed as either not proud of the nation, not patriotic, _ framed as either not proud of the nation, not patriotic, not - framed as either not proud of the nation, not patriotic, not lovers i framed as either not proud of the i nation, not patriotic, not lovers of country. _ nation, not patriotic, not lovers of country. also _ nation, not patriotic, not lovers of country. also as _ nation, not patriotic, not lovers of country, also as robert _ nation, not patriotic, not lovers of country, also as robert was - nation, not patriotic, not lovers of| country, also as robert was saying about _ country, also as robert was saying about younger— country, also as robert was saying about younger people _ country, also as robert was saying about younger people apathetic, i i about younger people apathetic, i think— about younger people apathetic, i think neither _ about younger people apathetic, i think neither of— about younger people apathetic, i think neither of those _ about younger people apathetic, i think neither of those are - about younger people apathetic, i think neither of those are true. i about younger people apathetic, i i think neither of those are true. the apathy— think neither of those are true. the apathy thing — think neither of those are true. the apathy thing i— think neither of those are true. the apathy thing i think _ think neither of those are true. the apathy thing i think is _ think neither of those are true. the apathy thing i think is not - think neither of those are true. the apathy thing i think is not true. i. apathy thing i think is not true. i am a _ apathy thing i think is not true. i am a reporter, _ apathy thing i think is not true. i am a reporter, i— apathy thing i think is not true. i am a reporter, i have— apathy thing i think is not true. i am a reporter, i have talked i apathy thing i think is not true. i am a reporter, i have talked to i am a reporter, i have talked to people. — am a reporter, i have talked to people. when— am a reporter, i have talked to people. when you _ am a reporter, i have talked to people, when you talk - am a reporter, i have talked to people, when you talk to - am a reporter, i have talked to i people, when you talk to younger people _ people, when you talk to younger people it — people, when you talk to younger people it is — people, when you talk to younger people it is not _ people, when you talk to younger people it is not they— people, when you talk to younger people it is not they are - people, when you talk to youngerj people it is not they are apathetic about— people it is not they are apathetic about the — people it is not they are apathetic about the royals, _ people it is not they are apathetic about the royals, it _ people it is not they are apathetic about the royals, it is— people it is not they are apathetic about the royals, it is they - people it is not they are apathetic about the royals, it is they think. about the royals, it is they think the royal— about the royals, it is they think the royal family— about the royals, it is they think the royal family is— about the royals, it is they think the royal family is a _ about the royals, it is they think the royal family is a negative. i about the royals, it is they think. the royal family is a negative. not 'ust the royal family is a negative. not just because — the royal family is a negative. not just because of— the royal family is a negative. not just because of prince _ the royal family is a negative. not just because of prince andrew, i the royal family is a negative. not just because of prince andrew, butj just because of prince andrew, but because _ just because of prince andrew, but because of— just because of prince andrew, but because of many— just because of prince andrew, but because of many other _ just because of prince andrew, but because of many other aspects, i because of many other aspects, financial. — because of many other aspects, financial, philosophical, - because of many other aspects, financial, philosophical, my- because of many other aspects, i financial, philosophical, my issue is no _ financial, philosophical, my issue is no one — financial, philosophical, my issue is no one should _ financial, philosophical, my issue is no one should be _ financial, philosophical, my issue is no one should be born- financial, philosophical, my issue is no one should be born intrine i is no one should be born intrine silly— is no one should be born intrine silly -- — is no one should be born intrine silly —— intrinsically _ is no one should be born intrine silly —— intrinsically better- is no one should be born intrine silly —— intrinsically better thanl silly —— intrinsically better than anyone — silly —— intrinsically better than anyone else. _ silly —— intrinsically better than anyone else. that _

silly —— intrinsically better than anyone else. that is _ silly —— intrinsically better than anyone else. that is problem, i silly —— intrinsically better than i anyone else. that is problem, the minute _ anyone else. that is problem, the minute a — anyone else. that is problem, the minute a child _ anyone else. that is problem, the minute a child is— anyone else. that is problem, the minute a child is born _ anyone else. that is problem, the minute a child is born in _ anyone else. that is problem, the minute a child is born in a - minute a child is born in a monarchy. _ minute a child is born in a monarchy, they— minute a child is born in a monarchy, they are - minute a child is born in a i monarchy, they are considered minute a child is born in a _ monarchy, they are considered better than in _ monarchy, they are considered better than in other— monarchy, they are considered better than in other child. _ monarchy, they are considered better than in other child. that _ monarchy, they are considered better than in other child. that will- monarchy, they are considered better than in other child. that will is - than in other child. that will is abhorrent— than in other child. that will is abhorrent to _ than in other child. that will is abhorrent to me. _ than in other child. that will is abhorrent to me.— than in other child. that will is abhorrent to me. considered better b whom? abhorrent to me. considered better by whom? who _ abhorrent to me. considered better by whom? who considers _ abhorrent to me. considered better by whom? who considers them i abhorrent to me. considered better- by whom? who considers them better, i don't. ~ ., , by whom? who considers them better, i don't. ~ . , ., ., i don't. well, that is all well and tood but i don't. well, that is all well and good but the _ i don't. well, that is all well and good but the bbc _ i don't. well, that is all well and good but the bbc for _ i don't. well, that is all well and good but the bbc for instance, i i don't. well, that is all well and j good but the bbc for instance, if i don't. well, that is all well and i good but the bbc for instance, if a member— good but the bbc for instance, if a member of— good but the bbc for instance, if a member of the _ good but the bbc for instance, if a member of the royal— good but the bbc for instance, if a member of the royal family - good but the bbc for instance, if a member of the royal family is i member of the royal family is pregnant. _ member of the royal family is pregnant. will— member of the royal family is pregnant, will will— member of the royal family is pregnant, will will be - member of the royal family is pregnant, will will be royal- pregnant, will will be royal reporters_ pregnant, will will be royal reporters outside - pregnant, will will be royal reporters outside the i pregnant, will will be royal. reporters outside the hospital waiting — reporters outside the hospital waiting for— reporters outside the hospital waiting for that _ reporters outside the hospital waiting for that child - reporters outside the hospital waiting for that child to - reporters outside the hospital waiting for that child to be i reporters outside the hospital i waiting for that child to be born, there _ waiting for that child to be born, there will— waiting for that child to be born, there will be _ waiting for that child to be born, there will be picture _ waiting for that child to be born, there will be picture spreads i waiting for that child to be born, there will be picture spreads in i there will be picture spreads in newspapers. _ there will be picture spreads in newspapers— there will be picture spreads in newsuaers. . . ., there will be picture spreads in news--aers. �* . ., i] newspapers. and sky and itn and... i am not on those, _ newspapers. and sky and itn and... i am not on those, other— newspapers. and sky and itn and... i am not on those, other providers i newspapers. and sky and itn and... i am not on those, other providers are | am not on those, other providers are available. _ am not on those, other providers are available. i_ am not on those, other providers are available. i mention— am not on those, other providers are available. i mention the _ am not on those, other providers are available. i mention the bbc- am not on those, other providers are available. i mention the bbc was i am not on those, other providers are available. i mention the bbc was a i available. i mention the bbc was a we are _ available. i mention the bbc was a we are on— available. i mention the bbc was a we are on the _ available. i mention the bbc was a we are on the bbc— available. i mention the bbc was a we are on the bbc and _ available. i mention the bbc was a we are on the bbc and it _ available. i mention the bbc was a we are on the bbc and it is - available. i mention the bbc was a we are on the bbc and it is a - we are on the bbc and it is a slightly. _ we are on the bbc and it is a slightly, slightly— we are on the bbc and it is a i slightly, slightly disingenuous to pretend — slightly, slightly disingenuous to pretend those _ slightly, slightly disingenuous to pretend those considers - slightly, slightly disingenuous to pretend those considers are i slightly, slightly disingenuous to pretend those considers are notl pretend those considers are not considered _ pretend those considers are not considered more _ pretend those considers are not considered more special. - pretend those considers are not considered more special. —— i considered more special. —— children. _ considered more special. —— children. we _ considered more special. —— children. we get _ considered more special. —— children. we get a - considered more special. —— children. we get a paintingi considered more special. —— i children. we get a painting done considered more special. —— - children. we get a painting done by prince _ children. we get a painting done by prince george — children. we get a painting done by prince george is _ children. we get a painting done by prince george is put _ children. we get a painting done by prince george is put in _ children. we get a painting done by prince george is put in the - children. we get a painting done by prince george is put in the paper, i prince george is put in the paper, look how—

prince george is put in the paper, look how talented _ prince george is put in the paper, look how talented he _ prince george is put in the paper, look how talented he 5 _ prince george is put in the paper, look how talented he 5 all - prince george is put in the paper, look how talented he 5 all people| look how talented he 5 all people think— look how talented he 5 all people think that — look how talented he 5 all people think that about _ look how talented he 5 all people think that about their _ look how talented he 5 all people think that about their children, ii think that about their children, i think— think that about their children, i think that — think that about their children, i think that about _ think that about their children, i think that about my _ think that about their children, i think that about my step - think that about their children, i. think that about my step daughter. they are _ think that about my step daughter. they are not — think that about my step daughter. they are not more _ think that about my step daughter. they are not more special, - think that about my step daughter. they are not more special, they. they are not more special, they happen— they are not more special, they happen to — they are not more special, they happen to be _ they are not more special, they happen to be born _ they are not more special, they happen to be born into - they are not more special, they happen to be born into a - happen to be born into a historically— happen to be born into a historically seen - happen to be born into a historically seen as i happen to be born into a i historically seen as important family — historically seen as important family and _ historically seen as important family. and just _ historically seen as important family. and just one - historically seen as important family. and just one other. historically seen as important. family. and just one other thing historically seen as important - family. and just one other thing in terms _ family. and just one other thing in terms of— family. and just one other thing in terms of the — family. and just one other thing in terms of the commonwealth - family. and just one other thing in| terms of the commonwealth stuff, gabon _ terms of the commonwealth stuff, gabon which — terms of the commonwealth stuff, gabon which has _ terms of the commonwealth stuff, gabon which has joined _ terms of the commonwealth stuff, gabon which has joined the - gabon which has joined the commonwealth, _ gabon which has joined the commonwealth, just- gabon which has joined the commonwealth, just had . gabon which has joined the commonwealth, just had a| gabon which has joined the - commonwealth, just had a military tour), _ commonwealth, just had a military coup, prince — commonwealth, just had a military coup, prince charles, _ commonwealth, just had a military coup, prince charles, when- commonwealth, just had a military coup, prince charles, when he - commonwealth, just had a military coup, prince charles, when he was| coup, prince charles, when he was prince _ coup, prince charles, when he was prince charles, _ coup, prince charles, when he was prince charles, regularly— coup, prince charles, when he was prince charles, regularly met- coup, prince charles, when he was prince charles, regularly met the i prince charles, regularly met the uni>emc>cretic_ prince charles, regularly met the undemocratic leader— prince charles, regularly met the undemocratic leader of— prince charles, regularly met the undemocratic leader of gabon, . prince charles, regularly met thel undemocratic leader of gabon, he prince charles, regularly met the - undemocratic leader of gabon, he has met mahym — undemocratic leader of gabon, he has met mahym iii — undemocratic leader of gabon, he has met many- - -— met many... ali bongo, presidentially _ met many... ali bongo, presidentially bongo. i met many... ali bongo, l presidentially bongo. one met many... ali bongo, - presidentially bongo. one of the most fun names _ presidentially bongo. one of the most fun names to _ presidentially bongo. one of the most fun names to say. - presidentially bongo. one of the most fun names to say. he - presidentially bongo. one of the most fun names to say. he has. presidentially bongo. one of the . most fun names to say. he has met many— most fun names to say. he has met many autocratic _ most fun names to say. he has met many autocratic leader, _ most fun names to say. he has met many autocratic leader, one - most fun names to say. he has met many autocratic leader, one of- most fun names to say. he has met many autocratic leader, one of the i many autocratic leader, one of the stories— many autocratic leader, one of the stories about — many autocratic leader, one of the stories about the _ many autocratic leader, one of the stories about the queen _ many autocratic leader, one of the stories about the queen i- many autocratic leader, one of the stories about the queen i have - stories about the queen i have enjoyed — stories about the queen i have enjoyed is— stories about the queen i have enjoyed is where _ stories about the queen i have enjoyed is where she - stories about the queen i have enjoyed is where she drove - stories about the queen i have| enjoyed is where she drove the stories about the queen i have - enjoyed is where she drove the land rover— enjoyed is where she drove the land rover whenm — enjoyed is where she drove the land rover when... this _ enjoyed is where she drove the land rover when... this is _ enjoyed is where she drove the land rover when... this is me _ enjoyed is where she drove the land rover when... this is me being - rover when... this is me being positive — rover when... this is me being ositive. ., , positive. know but you say politicians _ positive. know but you say politicians meet _ positive. know but you say politicians meet some - positive. know but you say - politicians meet some dreadful people. it is soft power and that. allow me to go the callers. 0k.

allow me to go the callers. 0k. allow me to go the callers. 0k. allow me to go the callers it is great having you on and you be back. let us get ian in manchester, lee in southend o, let us get ian in manchester, lee in southend 0, ian, good morning. lee. good morning. sandra in paisley, ian what would you like to see, ian, all of you talk, ian you go first. qm. of you talk, ian you go first. ok, thank you _ of you talk, ian you go first. ok, thank you nicky. _ of you talk, ian you go first. ok, thank you nicky. the _ of you talk, ian you go first. ok, thank you nicky. the guy, the republican, mick, ididn't thank you nicky. the guy, the republican, mick, i didn't catch his second name. republican, mick, i didn't catch his second name-— republican, mick, i didn't catch his second name.- well, - republican, mick, i didn't catch his second name.- well, in - republican, mick, i didn't catch his second name.- well, in my| second name. wright. well, in my oinion second name. wright. well, in my opinion she _ second name. wright. well, in my opinion she self— second name. wright. well, in my opinion she self opinionated, - second name. wright. well, in my opinion she self opinionated, and | opinion she self opinionated, and deluded. why would anyone want again, and egotistical politician as head of state? fik. again, and egotistical politician as head of state?— again, and egotistical politician as head of state? ok. let us hold that thou:ht. head of state? ok. let us hold that thought. lee. _ head of state? ok. let us hold that thought. lee, what— head of state? ok. let us hold that thought. lee, what do _ head of state? ok. let us hold that thought. lee, what do you - head of state? ok. let us hold that thought. lee, what do you think? l head of state? ok. let us hold that l thought. lee, what do you think? hi, aood thought. lee, what do you think? hi, good morning nicky how are you? thought. lee, what do you think? hi, i good morning nicky how are you? very well thank you- — good morning nicky how are you? very well thank you. yeah, _ good morning nicky how are you? very well thank you. yeah, yeah, _ good morning nicky how are you? very well thank you. yeah, yeah, the - good morning nicky how are you? very well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am coming — well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am coming at _ well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am coming at this, _ well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am coming at this, i _ well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am coming at this, i mean, - well thank you. yeah, yeah, the way i am coming at this, i mean, i - i am coming at this, i mean, i respect — i am coming at this, i mean, i respect the _ i am coming at this, i mean, i respect the queen and you go and everything she has done, but as i said to _

everything she has done, but as i said to a — everything she has done, but as i said to a research, i think the royat— said to a research, i think the royal family should be slimmed down a bit, because of the cost of living and what — a bit, because of the cost of living and what people are going through, than is _ and what people are going through, than isiust— and what people are going through, than isjust my opinion.— than is 'ust my opinion. yeah, what do ou than isjust my opinion. yeah, what do you think _ than isjust my opinion. yeah, what do you think about _ than isjust my opinion. yeah, what do you think about what _ than isjust my opinion. yeah, what do you think about what mick- than isjust my opinion. yeah, what do you think about what mick said l do you think about what mick said about a crumbling monarchy, ruling over a crumbling nation? what do you think of that? to over a crumbling nation? what do you think of that?— think of that? to be honest with you nic i think of that? to be honest with you nicky i agree — think of that? to be honest with you nicky i agree to _ think of that? to be honest with you nicky i agree to be _ think of that? to be honest with you nicky i agree to be honest, - think of that? to be honest with you nicky i agree to be honest, yes, - think of that? to be honest with you nicky i agree to be honest, yes, yesj nicky i agree to be honest, yes, yes i nicky i agree to be honest, yes, yes i do _ nicky i agree to be honest, yes, yes i do i_ nicky i agree to be honest, yes, yes i do iiust _ nicky i agree to be honest, yes, yes i do. ijust think there is too, yeah. — i do. ijust think there is too, yeah. like. _ i do. ijust think there is too, yeah. like. i— i do. ijust think there is too, yeah, like, iam i do. ijust think there is too, yeah, like, i am very nervous, so trear— yeah, like, i am very nervous, so trearwith— yeah, like, i am very nervous, so hearwith nte~ _ yeah, like, i am very nervous, so bear with me.— yeah, like, i am very nervous, so bear with me. absolutely, you are astounding _ bear with me. absolutely, you are astounding terrific, _ bear with me. absolutely, you are astounding terrific, don't - bear with me. absolutely, you are astounding terrific, don't worry . astounding terrific, don't worry about it and you know, fluent and all that stuff and you are making perfect sense but it was quite a phrase wasn't it.— phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i mean the _ phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i mean the thing _ phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i mean the thing is, _ phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i mean the thing is, i _ phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i mean the thing is, i mean, - phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i mean the thing is, i mean, as| phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i | mean the thing is, i mean, as i phrase wasn't it. yes, it was, i - mean the thing is, i mean, as i said before, _ mean the thing is, i mean, as i said before, it _ mean the thing is, i mean, as i said before, it should be a, you know, shoutd _ before, it should be a, you know, should be — before, it should be a, you know, should be like king charles, camitta, _ should be like king charles, camilla, you know, just immediate senior, _ camilla, you know, just immediate senior, the — camilla, you know, just immediate senior, the royal family, there is too many— senior, the royal family, there is too many hangers on, too many of

them _ too many hangers on, too many of them getting public, sorry taxpayer money. _ them getting public, sorry taxpayer money, you can see where i am coming from? _ money, you can see where i am coming from? |_ money, you can see where i am coming from? ., . i. ., from? i do and you came from it with treat from? i do and you came from it with great clarity- — from? i do and you came from it with great clarity- get _ from? i do and you came from it with great clarity. get in _ from? i do and you came from it with great clarity. get in touch, _ from? i do and you came from it with great clarity. get in touch, some - great clarity. get in touch, some breaking news first. the very latest on the search for daniel khalife. let us go across to, who escaped of course from wandsworth prison, two morningsing a, let us go to richmond park in south—west london, and our reporter matt graveling is there, what can you tell us matt? goad what can you tell us matt? good mornin: what can you tell us matt? good morning nicky. _ what can you tell us matt? good morning nicky, welcome - what can you tell us matt? good morning nicky, welcome to - what can you tell us matt? (limp. morning nicky, welcome to richmond where residents have been telling me they had a very noisy night last night and that is because there was a search of richmond park overnight by police and we have been told this morning by the metropolitan police this is in connection to the escape of daniel khalife from hmp wandsworth on wednesday, now we understand that helicopters were used, we have seen a number of

police vehicles in and round the area earlier, but we did of course yesterday, nicky, hearfrom the metropolitan police who said within 48—hours of mr khalife going missing, they hadn't had a positive sighting so we are ensure as to why they are searching this 2,500 acre park which is the largest of the eight royal parks in london for mr khalife. they haven't said what information has brought us here, but of course as you said he did go missing on wednesday morning from hmp wandsworth which is round five miles down the road from here and we believe clinging to the bottom of a delivery truck wearing prison issues chef uniform, that is white top, red—and—white chequered trousers and brown steel capped boot, the we have heard he may be in another country by now, that is another avenue they are looking into. there are checks on the borders going on today but the activity today has been confirmed heard in richmond park as

activity by the police, in relation to that hunt for daniel khalife. thank you very much indeed. got a great line—up, great calls, and we have got robert hartman and we have sarah, 23 years old in oxford, originally from australia, great combination for an interesting opinion. good morning. hello. i know you can't be with _ good morning. hello. i know you can't be with us _ good morning. hello. i know you can't be with us for— good morning. hello. i know you can't be with us for too _ good morning. hello. i know you can't be with us for too much - good morning. hello. i know you i can't be with us for too much longer what i really appreciate you getting in touch. how about, here we are, one year on, king charles, is it in safe hands? what do you think about the whole concept and how do you feel about the fact he is the king of australia? it feel about the fact he is the king of australia?— of australia? it is a very interesting _ of australia? it is a very interesting opinion, - of australia? it is a very interesting opinion, as. of australia? it is a very - interesting opinion, as you've mentioned before, i'm from australia, on 23, born in 1999 when the referendum was that voted for

the referendum was that voted for the monarchy to remain. i can tell you now that one year on the sentiments of my generation is not the same as they were in 1999. i have seen struggles in my home country, especially those who are indigenous. it was called the war against the nation. and they almost wiped out the aboriginal culture. what we need today is to step into the shows of those most impacted and understand from that standpoint what the monarchy and the crown really means to them. and just take a moment to look at the former abc news presenter stan grant antiracism

he faced. democracy should see the monarchy reflecting people of my generation and tuning into a more equitable society and that... include such as human rights and equal opportunity and if the monarchy as they are they should let us do that. white make excellent thoughts, thank you very much indeed. rob in llanelli, what do you think? —— excellent thoughts, thank you very much indeed. rob in llanelli, what do you think? yes, i think the royalfamily is excellent for the passing of the queen, really sad, she was my boss in the raf. i had a great opportunity to read out the plot

confirmation —— proclamation, i had three stabs at it, i had to read it out for the people of carmarthenshire. three stabs at it and they had a perfect word for word. this one is read out at saint james palace and right throughout the country and for me to have that honour was truly an honour for me and i recently met prince william and i recently met prince william and princess kate, and they are lovely people. i actually gave... they came down to the welsh air ambulance down here and i gave her a little brooch with daffodils and gave him the three feathers tie pin. amazing family. gave him the three feathers tie pin. amazing family-— gave him the three feathers tie pin. amazing family. thank you so much for that, amazing family. thank you so much for that. and _ amazing family. thank you so much for that, and describing _ amazing family. thank you so much for that, and describing their - amazing family. thank you so much for that, and describing their proud | for that, and describing their proud moment for you because she was, when you're in the armed forces, your boss and i know so many people who have served in the military and serve queen and country, now king

and country, feel very strongly and passionately the same way. thank you very much indeed. now to the news. mick, 30 seconds on what you've heard so far and what you believe will happen in the future. when you go. it will happen in the future. when you .0_ , , will happen in the future. when you to. , , ., . . go. it is interesting to have a collar who — go. it is interesting to have a collar who is _ go. it is interesting to have a collar who is a _ go. it is interesting to have a collar who is a monarchist i go. it is interesting to have a| collar who is a monarchist call go. it is interesting to have a - collar who is a monarchist call me deluded and self opinionated and i was asked to come and share my opinion. i will say my father who was a republican his whole life and serve the navy for the falklands war, not everyone in the military as a monarchist and republicans in the military should have a voice as well. . ~ military should have a voice as well. . ,, , ., military should have a voice as well. . ~' , ., , military should have a voice as well. . ,, i. , . , well. thank you very much but the onl oint well. thank you very much but the only point i _ well. thank you very much but the only point i was — well. thank you very much but the only point i was going _ well. thank you very much but the only point i was going to _ well. thank you very much but the only point i was going to make - well. thank you very much but the i only point i was going to make about meeting dubious people, james cleverley, foreign secretary, meeting the chinese so it is not the preserve of the royal family to do that if indeed it has been the case. i remember when robert mugabe came and sat beside the green. some would

say this is real politics, necessary diplomacy. it is always great to have you on and you're always a main event, neveran have you on and you're always a main event, never an afterthought. robert, one main thought in the future. . ~' , ., robert, one main thought in the future. . ,, , ., _, future. thank you, it will continue to level out _ future. thank you, it will continue to level out in _ future. thank you, it will continue to level out in the _ future. thank you, it will continue i to level out in the post-elizabethan to level out in the post—elizabethan age. people will realise that, yes, it has its challenges but as we come to terms with our place in a changing world, just look at that coronation, 1oo changing world, just look at that coronation, 100 heads of state from around the world coming in, notjust for tourism but because this thing matters, the first state visit should be to france, a republic, called off because of civil disorder but he is going there because they are keen to have him in a few weeks. we are trying a position ourselves in the world stage at the monarchy definitely helps us do that.- definitely helps us do that. thank ou, rob, definitely helps us do that. thank you. rob. same _ definitely helps us do that. thank you, rob, same with _ definitely helps us do that. thank you, rob, same with mick, - definitely helps us do that. thank| you, rob, same with mick, always definitely helps us do that. thank i you, rob, same with mick, always a

pleasure. so is it vive la republique or is it vive la... king. let us know. le, not la. police officers are searching richmond park for the terror suspect who disappeared two days ago. daniel khalife was being held on remand at hmp wandsworth at the met says they are investigating whether someone on the inside help the fugitive escape. the government said no contracts have been awarded to build seven offshore wind farms. the news is a blow to efforts to produce more energy from renewable sources. gun salutes will take place in hyde park, tower of london and edinburgh castle to mark the first anniversary

of the king's accession, marking one year since his mother died with private prayers in a church near balmoral and the ezra collective of the first band to win the mercury prize in the jazz genre. coco gough has moved closer to a historic grand slam title as she progressed. —— coco gauff. it was paused for a time due to protests. she came with a set down. they might ireland manager they are your 2024 hopes are over —— likely northern ireland manager admitted the 2024 european championship hopes up over after defeat last night. scotland can make it five wins from five tonight away to cyprus and france versus new zealand opens the rugby world cup this evening in one of the most

hotly anticipated opening matches in tournament's history, bringing you commentary from paris tonight. one year of one yearof king one year of king charles, your verdict, we will go to those calls injust a verdict, we will go to those calls in just a second anti—text as well, let me tell you what is coming up at 10am, goes on bbc two on bbc news, the latest international news and listeners and radio five live looking ahead to the third biggest sporting event on the planet, the rugby world cup starting tonight.

our hosts, france, versus new zealand. tasty. at stade de france in paris. we will be crowned kings of the rugby world? southern hemisphere, northern hemisphere, wherever, whenever. tell us what your thoughts are as well, that is coming up at10am. your thoughts are as well, that is coming up at 10am. book your place and get a text in. let me do you a couple of texts. royal family, let me do you a couple of texts. royalfamily, i'm an let me do you a couple of texts. royal family, i'm an australian holidaying in england and in my opinion you will... parasitical bunch should be dumped. not my king,

i never voted for him. this will not make income i'm 74, similar age. another insanely monarchy is not fair but i would prefer someone rolling out who has no choice and i were it is a duty rather than someone who wants to be president or aspires to rule and i love kate and wills. that is from al in oxford. we have in sutton coldfield, and is sandra from paisley. san rocco you've been waiting a while, what is your verdict so far on king charles? i thought it was quite radical when he was younger and i know he had a strand above whatever the government says but what happening in scotland is terrible and the hospital that is next to me in paisley, the rah, is falling to pieces. and if you look

at mental health, i know it is a terrible day for them but we need to move on. i don't want politicians to rule over us, i want us to be... and other subject. rule over us, i want us to be... and other subject-— other sub'ect. support in scotland is less other subject. support in scotland is less solid _ other subject. support in scotland is less solid than _ other subject. support in scotland is less solid than another- other subject. support in scotland is less solid than another part - other subject. support in scotland is less solid than another part of l is less solid than another part of the united kingdom, depending on what way you look at it, but in one poll around about 30% supporting the continuance of the monarchy. thank you. zoe in bristol. hello. what is your verdict? you. zoe in bristol. hello. what is yourverdict? hi, good to you. zoe in bristol. hello. what is your verdict? hi, good to have yawn, what is your verdict? —— make good to have you on. it what is your verdict? -- make good to have you om— to have you on. it is wonderful havin: a to have you on. it is wonderful having a royal— to have you on. it is wonderful having a royal family - to have you on. it is wonderful having a royal family and - to have you on. it is wonderful. having a royal family and looking to have you on. it is wonderful- having a royal family and looking in having a royalfamily and looking in the newspaper or smiling faces, they are so positive, they help so many charities, they are a great standard for us in britain, and all the other nations they are involved with as well but i would much rather see them than politicians who often have

very depressing use, they don't look happy a lot of the time and i would hate them to run the country, we need a royalfamily, they hate them to run the country, we need a royal family, they are so colourful and it is wonderful to be able to celebrate things and be joyful with them in the celebrations and they do so many good things but also this crumbling nation that is talked about, they are not the ones building these schools, it is down to the politicians and the councils that make these ridiculous decisions about using such useless concrete, it's not the royal family and about using such useless concrete, it's not the royalfamily and i think they should be in charge of some of those things themselves, they are very good on business and king charles particularly knows how to make a profit so give him some more to do. if the country wants better things then go to people that know something about building. less for the politicians and more for the king, interesting. mark in ashford. stay with us, zoe. a real passionate

plea there from zoe, wasn't it? mr; plea there from zoe, wasn't it? my take on plea there from zoe, wasn't it? iji take on this plea there from zoe, wasn't it? m take on this is plea there from zoe, wasn't it? m1: take on this is that plea there from zoe, wasn't it? m1 take on this is that i plea there from zoe, wasn't it? m1: take on this is that i come at plea there from zoe, wasn't it? m1 take on this is that i come at this from a republican point of view, i've always been a republican, in my early 605. even when i first started out in political years, late teens, early 205, always been republican and i give the monarchy about another 20, 25 years tops before we... i. , another 20, 25 years tops before we- - -- yes. _ another 20, 25 years tops before we---- yes. it— another 20, 25 years tops before we. . .- yes, it is - another 20, 25 years tops before we. . .- yes, it isjust - we... really? yes, it is 'ust inevitable. i we... really? yes, it is 'ust inevitable. as i we... really? yes, it is 'ust inevitable. as the i we... really? yes, it isjust i inevitable. as the democratic we... really? yes, it isjust - inevitable. as the democratic and the age of the population changes, as many of your callers have said, younger people are very... i don't know the world, either anti—monarchy or not giving much of an interest. a5 or not giving much of an interest. as that population grows older people of my generation who predominantly support the monarchy, we will unfortunately pass away so

all the republicans need to do is keep their powder dry for about another 20 years, keep the conversation going. white may keep the gunpowder dry! that is a historical thing. —— keep the gunpowder dry! do not push or a referendum, if there is one soon, we will lose. wait a bit. there is one soon, we will lose. wait a bit-— there is one soon, we will lose. wait a bit. �* i. _, wait a bit. and your day will come. but i wait a bit. and your day will come. but i probably _ wait a bit. and your day will come. but i probably will— wait a bit. and your day will come. but i probably will not _ wait a bit. and your day will come. but i probably will not be _ wait a bit. and your day will come. but i probably will not be around. i but i probably will not be around. you will only be 63... 83, that's what i mean. i'll be with you, age wise anyway. who would you like to be president right now if you could choose a person? i’m be president right now if you could choose a person?— be president right now if you could choose a person? i'm not really... i thinkthat — choose a person? i'm not really... i think that is — choose a person? i'm not really... i think that is one _ choose a person? i'm not really... i think that is one of _ choose a person? i'm not really... i think that is one of the. .. _ choose a person? i'm not really... i think that is one of the. .. i - choose a person? i'm not really... i think that is one of the. .. i don't i think that is one of the... i don't want to get involved in that, i'd rather talk about the principal about whether the head of state is elected by the people or someone of

birth. i've always, always been against this principle that the head of state is only there because he or she was born into the right family and if you go back in history, if richard iii or whoever had won the battle of bosworth, we would have a camp of royal family. battle of bosworth, we would have a camp of royalfamily. rf battle of bosworth, we would have a camp of royal family.— camp of royal family. rf bonnie prince charlie _ camp of royal family. rf bonnie prince charlie had _ camp of royal family. rf bonnie prince charlie had made - camp of royal family. rf bonnie prince charlie had made it - camp of royal family. rf bonniel prince charlie had made it further than derby, absolutely right. go to move it on, thank you very much indeed, well said, thanks for coming on, these are great calls and he was another one from ellen or in didcot and an eater in reading and i will be with you, newell, as well. ellen. i agree with the last gentleman. it is outdated, the monarchy, approach penetrates a class system, rights to birth —— it perpetuates a class system. they are not horrible people, they have a right to live

their own life but it is grotesque at times the amount of houses they've got, the wealth, the ostentatious show of everything. it is just not relevant these days and i agree with your previous caller, hopefully the time is coming, maybe not in my time either at the time is coming that it willjust be outdated and gone. coming that it will 'ust be outdated and one. ~ i, . coming that it will 'ust be outdated andone. ~ i, ~ ., . , . and gone. wow. a 'ournalist and broadcaster. _ and gone. wow. a 'ournalist and broadcaster, i— and gone. wow. ajournalist and broadcaster, i know _ and gone. wow. ajournalist and broadcaster, i know you're - and gone. wow. ajournalist and | broadcaster, i know you're pretty pro charles for lots of interesting reasons, did you hear ellen there? the time is coming. i reasons, did you hear ellen there? the time is coming.— reasons, did you hear ellen there? the time is coming. i did. the clock is tickin . the time is coming. i did. the clock is ticking- they _ the time is coming. i did. the clock is ticking. they could _ the time is coming. i did. the clock is ticking. they could be _ the time is coming. i did. the clock is ticking. they could be right. - the time is coming. i did. the clock is ticking. they could be right. i'm i is ticking. they could be right. i'm not as is ticking. they could be right. i'm rrot as pro — is ticking. they could be right. i'm not as pro charles _ is ticking. they could be right. i'm not as pro charles as _ is ticking. they could be right. i'm not as pro charles as you - is ticking. they could be right. i'm not as pro charles as you perhaps| not as pro charles as you perhaps think i am but i think they could be right because a lot of people across the age spectrum, notjust in younger people, feel that the monarchy now is irrelevant. like your last caller said, they are

quite ostentatious and there can be a real show of wealth that some people find particularly distasteful and i think we need to have real and genuine conversations about the rise of republican feeling, people feeling why is this family ordained by god to rule over us unelected? why? we contribute money, we know the money to the sovereign grant is really small per person but we still do contribute to their upkeep and we need real and honest discussions about how people feel about that and i'm not surprised there has been a rising republican feeling and i feel i a lot of people waited until the end of queen elizabeth ii before they really sort of acknowledged or voiced how they felt about the monarchy. i almost think queen elizabeth ii was a set apart that people saw quite differently from the rest of the family and a year on from that rain being over, people start to think why do we still have

this? where the only country that still has such a huge, ostentatious coronation. the french, and spanish, none of them do that so why do we still do it? it is archaic and outdated, a lot of people feel that way. outdated, a lot of people feel that wa . ., outdated, a lot of people feel that wa . i, i, outdated, a lot of people feel that wa , ., ., ., , outdated, a lot of people feel that wa. ., . , . �* outdated, a lot of people feel that way. you are scottish, aren't you? i am. as way. you are scottish, aren't you? i am- as am — way. you are scottish, aren't you? i am- as am i- _ way. you are scottish, aren't you? i am- as am i- why— way. you are scottish, aren't you? i am. as am i. why is— way. you are scottish, aren't you? i am. as am i. why is it _ way. you are scottish, aren't you? i | am. as am i. why is it comparatively weak sopport — am. as am i. why is it comparatively weak sopport for— am. as am i. why is it comparatively weak support for the _ am. as am i. why is it comparatively weak support for the monarchy - am. as am i. why is it comparatively weak support for the monarchy in - weak support for the monarchy in scotland? what is going on there because the royal family love scotland. they are often bedecked in tartan, especially king charles so why is it whining there?— why is it whining there? you're absently right, _ why is it whining there? you're absently right, the _ why is it whining there? you're absently right, the royal- why is it whining there? you're| absently right, the royal family absently right, the royalfamily love scotland and the queen died at balmoral, she did that seemingly has a way to write a love letter to scotland, her last gift to the country in the play she loved but historically people are really very aware of how we got a royal family in the first place and how they were ordained to rule over scotland in

the war of independence and all of that and historically it is still very rooted and they are an english family that rule over english, german and everything else, ruling over scotland and taking over these castles like balmoral and the other ones they have and scottish people, and a lot of people, do not feel it is relevant. they do not feel this face of london centric, english —based family have anything to do with their everyday lives and the royal family may say they've done a lot of things in scotland that they have taken over lot of things in scotland that they have ta ken over castles lot of things in scotland that they have taken over castles and houses, revamp them, brought tourists to scotland because of the moral but a lot of people feel it is irrelevant and it shows with support for the royal family and it shows with support for the royalfamily in and it shows with support for the royal family in scotland, and wales actually, is much lower than england and the rest of the united kingdom. what do you think about that, kneel in sutton coldfield? —— neil. the

in sutton coldfield? -- neil. the monarchy _ in sutton coldfield? -- neil. the monarchy itself _ in sutton coldfield? -- neil. the monarchy itself is _ in sutton coldfield? —— neil. tie: monarchy itself is ludicrous and silly. we should not have a country ruled by a single monarch but the monarch has been brought up to do that role and it is more of a... it does not have much political influence and if we were to change, it would tear apart what it is to be part of britain or the uk, it is who we are, the british are fundamentally silly and ridiculous in terms of the rest of the world but i would much rather have that than an elected position when you could end up with someone like king boris or worse, king farage using their game... boris or worse, king farage using their game---_ boris or worse, king farage using their game..._ sorry, i their game... president. sorry, president _ their game... president. sorry, president boris _ their game... president. sorry, president boris or— their game... president. sorry, president boris or president - their game... president. sorry, - president boris or president farage but that is not what england needs, britain needs.— britain needs. scotland, wales, northern ireland _ britain needs. scotland, wales, northern ireland or— britain needs. scotland, wales, northern ireland or the - britain needs. scotland, wales, northern ireland or the isle - britain needs. scotland, wales, northern ireland or the isle of. britain needs. scotland, wales, - northern ireland or the isle of man. that is a killer argument, isn't it?

ifear. presidentjohnson, whatever i fear. presidentjohnson, whatever you ifear. presidentjohnson, whatever you think of him, president farage, whatever you think of him, president blair, whatever you think of him. does that not stick in your craw compared to king charles? your core is absently right. _ compared to king charles? your core is absently right. president _ compared to king charles? your core is absently right. president johnson i is absently right. presidentjohnson of president farage does stick in the throat, absolutely. we go down the throat, absolutely. we go down the road of the discussion of should we have... is it better we have this unelected leader who is apolitical or a sounding board for the government.— or a sounding board for the government. are not government. like in ireland. are not oliticall government. like in ireland. are not politically affiliated. _ government. like in ireland. are not politically affiliated. perhaps - government. like in ireland. are not politically affiliated. perhaps that. politically affiliated. perhaps that is best if you go down the road of an unelected leader they will be on one side of politics or the other and overall will be imposing that on and overall will be imposing that on a spot is that not what we have in government anyway this was on the flip side king charles ii! is kind of a figurehead anyway, he has to

remain apolitical so he cannot influence too many decisions, yes, the prime minister will go to tell on what is happening and get royal assent for bills and things like that but i will not be a time and there has not been or will be a time king will say i do not want that one, stop that one because it is not hisjob. one, stop that one because it is not his 'ob. , .,, one, stop that one because it is not his'ob. , , ., his job. some people say he should ste back his job. some people say he should step back pp _ his job. some people say he should step back up to _ his job. some people say he should step back up to the _ his job. some people say he should step back up to the plate _ his job. some people say he should step back up to the plate as - his job. some people say he should step back up to the plate as was . step back up to the plate as was thought on environmental issues but he has been muted on that. and a much tattooed figure as well. and we have coming up neil in sutton coldfield... no, we did that already because he spoke about the president of —— the idea of presidentjohnson. come on, tom, 68 years old, what do you think? i come on, tom, 68 years old, what do ou think? ~ i. come on, tom, 68 years old, what do ou think? ,, . . ., come on, tom, 68 years old, what do ou think? ,, . . . ., you think? i think having a head of state that is _ you think? i think having a head of

state that is politically _ you think? i think having a head of state that is politically detached i state that is politically detached is a real positive for the uk and quite unique, and i think being able to send our head of state on diplomatic missions while the prime minister still able to the country at home is a huge benefit and really important to the future. ok. at home is a huge benefit and really important to the future.— at home is a huge benefit and really important to the future. ok, why not have a head — important to the future. ok, why not have a head of _ important to the future. ok, why not have a head of state _ important to the future. ok, why not have a head of state who _ important to the future. ok, why not have a head of state who is - have a head of state who is politically detached but is not there just be because of their blood group. there just be because of their blood urou -. ~ i. ~' there just be because of their blood u-rou.~ . ~ there just be because of their blood a-rou.~ ., " ., , group. what i think about that is one of your _ group. what i think about that is one of your callers _ group. what i think about that is one of your callers earlier - group. what i think about that is one of your callers earlier made | group. what i think about that is | one of your callers earlier made a really good point in that king charles does not have a choice whether or not to rule, he was born into it, it is his duty and i think thatis into it, it is his duty and i think that is better than having someone who aspires to rule or actually wants to do it, a duty is much more binding and means he takes thejob

more seriously and knows his whole life that is what is coming to him and can prepare for it, we'll do a betterjob for the and can prepare for it, we'll do a better job for the people. and can prepare for it, we'll do a betterjob for the people. i and can prepare for it, we'll do a betterjob for the people. better 'ob for the people. i would like betterjob for the people. i would like our betterjob for the people. i would like your response _ betterjob for the people. i would like your response on _ betterjob for the people. i would like your response on that. - betterjob for the people. i would like your response on that. i - betterjob for the people. i would like your response on that. i canl like your response on that. i can see some _ like your response on that. i can see some of _ like your response on that. i can see some of the _ like your response on that. i can see some of the argument - like your response on that. i can see some of the argument to i like your response on that. i can see some of the argument to be fair, is a detached person, but i find it quite sad that he does not have a choice. i come from that angle as well. all this it being his duty just because he was born to a certain mother is so outdated and irrelevant. . ., ., , ., irrelevant. the chromosome thing, es. the irrelevant. the chromosome thing, yes- the whole _ irrelevant. the chromosome thing, yes. the whole point _ irrelevant. the chromosome thing, yes. the whole point is _ irrelevant. the chromosome thing, yes. the whole point is to - yes. the whole point is to modernise, move on in society has changed and evolved and we are not doing that. we do not be an argument to have some sort of detached office in the future? i don't know. that would be a _ in the future? i don't know. that would be a bigger— in the future? i don't know. trisgt would be a bigger question. but i would be a bigger question. but! don't think those arguments are enough to convince me we need a

monarchy. i enough to convince me we need a monarchy-— enough to convince me we need a monarch . . , ., ,, ., . monarchy. i am trying to think of a non-political _ monarchy. i am trying to think of a non-political figure _ monarchy. i am trying to think of a non-political figure who _ monarchy. i am trying to think of a non-political figure who could - monarchy. i am trying to think of a non-political figure who could fit i non—political figure who could fit the role as president. lots of names going through my mind but none of them are particularly good and they would just wind people up, can you think of anyone? £3711 wouldjust wind people up, can you think of anyone?— think of anyone? off the top of my head, no, think of anyone? off the top of my head. no. i — think of anyone? off the top of my head, no, i cannot— think of anyone? off the top of my head, no, i cannot because - think of anyone? off the top of my i head, no, i cannot because everyone i can think of, whether it is boris johnson, tony blair, whatever... i’m johnson, tony blair, whatever... i'm thinking of — johnson, tony blair, whatever... i'm thinking of people who have not been in politics but are a unifying figure he would not be there because of their dna or chromosomes, who they are related to butjust because everybody loved them, is the somebody that everybody loves, who transcends political belief? because they've achieved this in ireland to and extent with mary robinson but i cannot think of anything. can you

think of anyone? i cannot think of anything. can you think of anyone?— cannot think of anything. can you think of anyone? i cannot think of an one think of anyone? i cannot think of anyone myself- — think of anyone? i cannot think of anyone myself. president - think of anyone? i cannot think of i anyone myself. president clarkson. ma be anyone myself. president clarkson. maybe not- — anyone myself. president clarkson. maybe not. dolly _ anyone myself. president clarkson. maybe not. dolly parton. _ anyone myself. president clarkson. maybe not. dolly parton. she - anyone myself. president clarkson. maybe not. dolly parton. she is - anyone myself. president clarkson. j maybe not. dolly parton. she is not british but she _ maybe not. dolly parton. she is not british but she someone _ maybe not. dolly parton. she is not british but she someone everyone i british but she someone everyone loved and can get on with. john koller made a really good point, if you have someone who is this figurehead and not on that very paragraph, it is very important. because anyone else who wanted or had political ambitions and rises to this role will still influence where they are and the position they are in but if it is something you're born into and you do not have a choice, like other because it after that, which can be a shame that you're forced into it, but i think being an unelected leader without having the element of a paragraph actually is very important and perhaps can allow you to do the job

better if you feel that it is a duty. that is the important point made. i. , duty. that is the important point made. . , . . duty. that is the important point made. . . made. really important, a point well made. really important, a point well made. and made. really important, a point well made- and we _ made. really important, a point well made- and we go — made. really important, a point well made. and we go to _ made. really important, a point well made. and we go to nydia. - made. really important, a point well made. and we go to nydia. when - made. really important, a point well made. and we go to nydia. when we think of a political presidents. tanni grey thompson, and and deck are some of the suggestions we have had. —— ant and dec. what do you think of that? can had. -- ant and dec. what do you think of that?— think of that? can you hear me? beautifully. _ think of that? can you hear me? beautifully, great _ think of that? can you hear me? beautifully, great clarity. - think of that? can you hear me? beautifully, great clarity. thank| beautifully, great clarity. thank ou for beautifully, great clarity. thank you for that- — beautifully, great clarity. thank you for that. basically _ beautifully, great clarity. thank you for that. basically i - beautifully, great clarity. thank you for that. basically i don't i you for that. basically i don't think king charles has done... in his first year. the last few years of the queen has kind of been a bit turbulent and people kind of thought within the queen passed away that

the entire monarchy would end. i was listening to the last two callers, because republicans, as they say give yourself 20, 25 years and britain will become a republic. i personally do not think so. personally do not think 50. unfortunately i would say give him britain and our 50—100 years because i think the is very significant —— i think the monarchy very significant. i understand the full 37% are youngsters not getting the monarchy but 25 years ago i think... i was living my life and doing my own thing, i did not get the concept of what the royalfamily thing, i did not get the concept of what the royal family was all about and it was my parents who used to talk about the royal family, i was born in britain but shortly before i turned one—year—old my parents went back to a commonwealth country and i spent the first 20 years of my life there. and even though it is in any

commonwealth country, my parents spoke about the queen and prince charles, lady diana and i always wondered what it is all about that i came back when i was a lot older and in the last ten years, the monarchy has grown on me, i remember watching william and catherine's wedding... you've come to it, they've grown on you and you love them now. let me just say that viewers on bbc two and bbc news will be leaving us now for national and international news.

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