a very good morning. should ban xl bully dogs. that is what we are talking about this morning, your chance to express your view on talking about this morning, your chance to express yt did iew on talking about this morning, your chance to express yt did you on talking about this morning, your chance to express yt did you see big story of the day. did you see the horrific video footage of a xl

bully dog attacking an 11—year—old girl in birmingham? two men who intervened bitten by the intervened were bitten by the ferocious creature. and now the home secretary above a man has said the american xl bully is a clear and

the news from thank you. luis rubiales has resigned as president of the spanish football federation — after weeks of criticism for kissing a player on the lips

at the women's world cup final. he said he will also stand down as a vice—president of uefa. the car manufacturer bmw is expected to announce a £600—million investment in its mini factory in oxfordshire. it's hoped the plans will safeguard around 4,000 jobs at the company. the home secretary suella braverman says she is seeking advice on whether american bully xl dogs should be banned. it's after an 11—year—old girl was attacked in birmingham on saturday.

it's after an 11—year—old girl was attacked ir xl'mingham on saturday. it's after an 11—year—old girl was attacked ir xl is ingham on saturday. it's after an 11—year—old girl was attacked ir xl is the lam on saturday. it's after an 11—year—old girl was attacked ir xl is the tag on saturday. unfortunately xl is the tag line, thatis unfortunately xl is the tag line, that is the one making the headlines but it might not even be that type of dog so the actual ban of these specific dogs cannot possibly work. because you have got to go across all the cross breeds of dogs. it is all the cross breeds of dogs. it is uuite all the cross breeds of dogs. it is quite imprecise, _ all the cross breeds of dogs. it is quite imprecise, it _ all the cross breeds of dogs. it is quite imprecise, it isjust a kind of label which does not particularly apply to an actual breed, is that what you're saying?— apply to an actual breed, is that what you're saying? exactly what i am saying- — what you're saying? exactly what i am saying- is— what you're saying? exactly what i am saying. is like _ what you're saying? exactly what i am saying. is like buying - what you're saying? exactly what i am saying. is like buying a - what you're saying? exactly what i am saying. is like buying a cool. am saying. is like buying a cool t—shirt, you can ban all t—shirts, you cannot ban a specific one, all that makes the xl is an inch difference between a standard and

that makes the xl is an inch difference between i standard and that makes the xl is an inch difference between i have iard and that makes the xl is an inch difference between i have it'd and that makes the xl is an inch difference between i have it a and yes, i have it a lot, i have it a lot _ yes, i have it a lot, i have it a lot it — yes, i have it a lot, i have it a lot it is — yes, i have it a lot, i have it a lot. it is disheartening and it's -ot lot. it is disheartening and it's got to— lot. it is disheartening and it's got to the _ lot. it is disheartening and it's got to the point i make comments

while _ got to the point i make comments while i_ got to the point i make comments while i am — got to the point i make comments while i am walking saying you're iittie _ while i am walking saying you're little anchor biter will not mind to shreds— little anchor biter will not mind to shreds and — little anchor biter will not mind to shreds and i cannot say anything because — shreds and i cannot say anything because you will ternet on my dog and then— because you will ternet on my dog and then you will save my dog as i suspected — and then you will save my dog as i suspected tipple and have mine taken away meanwhile your little thing -ets away meanwhile your little thing gets away with blue murder! i am tired _ gets away with blue murder! i am tired of— gets away with blue murder! i am tired of it! — gets away with blue murder! i am tired of it! i— gets away with blue murder! i am tired of it! i am tired of the stigma _ tired of it! i am tired of the stigma against the xl bully dogs, sick of— stigma against the xl bully dogs, sick of it. — stigma against the xl bully dogs, sick of it, and the american bully. there _ sick of it, and the american bully. there is— sick of it, and the american bully. there is a — sick of it, and the american bully. there is a big hashtag going don't bully my— there is a big hashtag going don't bully my bully because people are believing — bully my bully because people are believing my dogs. i have grown up withjack_ believing my dogs. i have grown up with jack russell's believing my dogs. i have grown up withjack russell's and believing my dogs. i have grown up with jack russell's and i hate them, i absolutely hate them! why with jack russell's and i hate them, i absolutely hate them!— i absolutely hate them! why is the xl bully breed _ i absolutely hate them! why is the xl bully breed disproportionately i xl bully breed disproportionately represented in the number of dog attacks that the police attend? the sad thing is — attacks that the police attend? the sad thing is people seem to think that with — sad thing is people seem to think that with the xl bully, because they are so—

that with the xl bully, because they are so intimidating the only thing people _ are so intimidating the only thing people seem to latch onto is the fact there — people seem to latch onto is the fact there is a pit bull in them and the fact— fact there is a pit bull in them and the fact they look like a pit bull, yes they— the fact they look like a pit bull, yes they are able breed the fact they look like a pit bull, yes they are abl xl eed the fact they look like a pit bull, yes they are abl xl bully as a pit cannot label the xl bully as a pit bull, _ cannot label the xl bully as a pit bull. it— cannot label the xl bully as a pit bull. it is— cannot label the xl bully as a pit bull. it is a — cannot label the xl bully as a pit bull, it is a bulb read family because _ bull, it is a bulb read family because everyone says bull, it is a bulb read family because ever that says bull, it is a bulb read family because ever that is ys bull, it is a bulb read family because ever that is what they bull in them, that is what they iatch— bull in them, that is what they latch onto.

help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but _ help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but the — help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but the vet _ help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but the vet said _ help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but the vet said he _ help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but the vet said he is— help him. we rushed the dog to the vet but the vet said he is crushed, i vet but the vet said he is crushed, we witt— vet but the vet said he is crushed, we will have — vet but the vet said he is crushed, we will have to _ vet but the vet said he is crushed, we will have to put _ vet but the vet said he is crushed, we will have to put him _ vet but the vet said he is crushed, we will have to put him to - vet but the vet said he is crushed, we will have to put him to sleep. vet but the vet said he is crushed, . we will have to put him to sleep. my goodness! _ we will have to put him to sleep. my goodness! it— we will have to put him to sleep. my goodness! it ruined _ we will have to put him to sleep. my goodness! it ruined our— we will have to put him to sleep. my goodness! it ruined our lives - we will have to put him to sleep. my goodness! it ruined our lives for- goodness! it ruined our lives for two years— goodness! it ruined our lives for two years and _ goodness! it ruined our lives for two years and we _ goodness! it ruined our lives for two years and we are _ goodness! it ruined our lives for two years and we are still - goodness! it ruined our lives for. two years and we are still grieving him~ _ two years and we are still grieving him he _ two years and we are still grieving him he was — two years and we are still grieving him he was the— two years and we are still grieving him. he was the most _ two years and we are still grieving him. he was the most wonderful. him. he was the most wonderful little _ him. he was the most wonderful little dog — him. he was the most wonderful little dog and _ him. he was the most wonderful little dog. and i— him. he was the most wonderful little dog. and i would _ him. he was the most wonderful little dog. and i would have - him. he was the most wonderfull little dog. and i would have gone round _ little dog. and i would have gone round and — little dog. and i would have gone round and killed _ little dog. and i would have gone round and killed them _ little dog. and i would have gone round and killed them myself- little dog. and i would have gone round and killed them myself if. little dog. and i would have gone round and killed them myself if i| round and killed them myself if i could _ round and killed them myself if i could have _ round and killed them myself if i could have i_ round and killed them myself if i could have. i hate _ round and killed them myself if i could have. i hate them! - round and killed them myself if i could have. i hate them! they. round and killed them myself if i- could have. i hate them! they ruined our lives! _ could have. i hate them! they ruined our lives! ~ ., ., could have. i hate them! they ruined our lives!_ some l our lives! who owned them? some --eole, our lives! who owned them? some peeple. we — our lives! who owned them? some peeple. we note — our lives! who owned them? some people, we note the _ our lives! who owned them? some people, we note the retaliation, i our lives! who owned them? some | people, we note the retaliation, we were told. — people, we note the retaliation, we were told. did — people, we note the retaliation, we were told, did not _ people, we note the retaliation, we were told, did not do _ people, we note the retaliation, we were told, did not do anything, - people, we note the retaliation, we were told, did not do anything, wei were told, did not do anything, we were _ were told, did not do anything, we were told — were told, did not do anything, we were told about _ were told, did not do anything, we were told about the _ were told, did not do anything, we were told about the retaliation - were told, did not do anything, we were told about the retaliation sol were told about the retaliation so were told about the retaliation so we had _ were told about the retaliation so we had to— were told about the retaliation so we had tojust _ were told about the retaliation so we had to just leave _ were told about the retaliation so we had to just leave it. _ were told about the retaliation so we had tojust leave it. i- were told about the retaliation so we had tojust leave it. i amu- were told about the retaliation so we had to just leave it. we had to 'ust leave it. i am going to brin: we had tojust leave it. i am going to bring in — we had tojust leave it. i am going to bring in jackie, _ we had tojust leave it. i am going to bring in jackie, you _ we had tojust leave it. i am going to bring in jackie, you agree - we had tojust leave it. i am going to bring in jackie, you agree with l to bring injackie, you agree with pam, don't you? i

to bring in jackie, you agree with pam. don't you?— pam, don't you? i am so sorry. i know exactly— pam, don't you? i am so sorry. i know exactly how _ pam, don't you? i am so sorry. i know exactly how you _ pam, don't you? i am so sorry. i know exactly how you feel. - pam, don't you? i am so sorry. i| know exactly how you feel. thank ou. i know exactly how you feel. thank you- i was — know exactly how you feel. thank you- i was out — know exactly how you feel. thank you. i was out walking _ know exactly how you feel. thank you. i was out walking with - know exactly how you feel. thank you. i was out walking with my i you. i was out walking with my beautiful gentle _ you. i was out walking with my beautiful gentle grey _ you. i was out walking with my beautiful gentle grey hand, - you. i was out walking with my - beautiful gentle grey hand, rescued from two years old from the track and she was the most gentle dog. and i was out walking with her one evening and to loose staffordshire seat came of and one came at her and i thought for a second, i am all right, it has come at her, it is sniffing and she stood next to me quietly as she always did. and then out of the darkness a second one came and within a split second she was on the ground and being destroyed. they ripped her to pieces. and i try to intervene. the owners came rushing over, these dogs had never been let out, socialised, the owners just kept them because

they were, i have got a staffordshire, that type of attitude. the destruction they caused in her, she went into intensive care and she died six days later. that was six years ago. i could not... the agony still, ifeel your pain, i still feel your pain. i am six years on. i am still learning to walk my boy and girl that i have now because i have had to try for my love of my dogs to try and overcome this unbelievable terror inside. and it has taken me years to try and be able to work with dogs and i am sorry, the lady before, why do we crossover? because we bloody terrified, i am sorry for using that

language. i terrified, i am sorry for using that lanaauae. ., '::::f ~y terrified, i am sorry for using that lanaauae. ., '::::f g language. i agree 100%. my husband takes bi language. i agree 10096. my husband takes big stick— language. i agree 10096. my husband takes big stick with _ language. i agree 10096. my husband takes big stick with him _ language. i agree 10096. my husband takes big stick with him now. - language. i agree 10096. my husband takes big stick with him now. i - language. i agree 10096. my husband takes big stick with him now. i work. takes big stick with him now. i work the stator capped _ takes big stick with him now. i work the stator capped boots _ takes big stick with him now. i work the stator capped boots and - takes big stick with him now. i work the stator capped boots and i - takes big stick with him now. i work the stator capped boots and i woke | the stator capped boots and i woke with a spare lead around my neck so i can at least try and grab or kick let thank god i have not had to do it in the last six years but if a dog comes anywhere near, i am petrified. i have got better in the last year, 18 months, smaller breeds, people that we see but i had a staffordshire run at me a couple of weeks ago and i ripped the lead from my neck and the owner straight called the pack and i said no, did not let that near my dog. they are killers, absolute killers and the vets and the police said to me, you did not stand a chance finding those dogs. not a chance, one is bad enough but too is impossible, absolutely impossible. i prosecuted. it went to court. the owners had

their children go up on the stand and even the police laughed because they made out that they could not be without their little dogs and they would be so upset. those dogs got to live and when we walked out, the owner laughed at me and said at least i have got mine! and i know exactly how you feel.— exactly how you feel. jackie, that is so awful- _ exactly how you feel. jackie, that is so awful. we _ exactly how you feel. jackie, that is so awful. we are _ exactly how you feel. jackie, that is so awful. we are all— exactly how you feel. jackie, that is so awful. we are all dog - exactly how you feel. jackie, that is so awful. we are all dog lovers here but did you say you go with steel toe capped boots or something? absolutely, ever since. you cannot protect your dog or yourself against these things. staffordshire is, these things. staffordshire is, these appalling things that we are seeing, i have ever since then and if only i had thought about it before but until these things happen, you would not imagine, you

know, you wouldn't imagine and it's like all of us, i relate to other people who have suffered terrible trauma like being attacked, being raped, being assaulted, that your life changes and all of a sudden the

raped, being assaulted, that your lift is "ranges and all of a sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a nges and all of a sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit es and all of a sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit bull. i all of a sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit bull. iall of a sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit bull. i am >f a sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit bull. i am so sudden the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit bull. i am so scared 1 the raped, being assaulted, that your lift is a pit bull. i am so scared for e he is a pit bull. i am so scared for my doc} _ he is a pit bull. i am so scared for m do _ . ., he is a pit bull. i am so scared for m do. ~ . , he is a pit bull. i am so scared for m dot. ., , ., my dog. what is the point in having a do like my dog. what is the point in having a dog like that? _ my dog. what is the point in having a dog like that? i _ my dog. what is the point in having a dog like that? i rescued _ my dog. what is the point in having a dog like that? i rescued him - a dog like that?- _ rescued me a dog like that? rescued me from my own because he rescued me from my own dark debts _ because he rescued me from my own dark debts i— because he rescued me from my own dark debts. i try to go to all other dark debts. ! try to go to all other places— dark debts. i try to go to all other places to — dark debts. i try to go to all other places to try and get a dog but because — places to try and get a dog but because i_ places to try and get a dog but because i live in a flat and will be at work. — because i live in a flat and will be at work. i— because i live in a flat and will be at work, i couldn't get anything. and a _ at work, i couldn't get anything. and a work— at work, i couldn't get anything. and a work colleague said to me someone — and a work colleague said to me someone is giving away a dog for free and —

someone is giving away a dog for free and at— someone is giving away a dog for free and at first i was very wary about— free and at first i was very wary about him _

free and at first i was very wary about him- _ free and at first i was very wary about him. ., .,, ., . ., the xl bully. natasha in braintree, ou will the xl bully. natasha in braintree, you will trust _ the xl bully. natasha in braintree, you will trust you _ the xl bully. natasha in braintree, you will trust you dog _ the xl bully. natasha in braintree, you will trust you dog with - the xl bully. natasha in braintree, you will trust you dog with your. you will trust you dog with your kids and jackets with your dog, natasha? it kids and jackets with your dog, natasha? , , �* , ., natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl— natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl bully — natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl bully and _ natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl bully and he _ natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl bully and he is - natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl bully and he is one - natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he owns a xl bully and he is one of. natasha? it is my friend 's dog, he | owns a xl bully and he is one of the biggest in the country and honestly, he is the most sweet, gentle boy that you will ever meet. i have a seven—year—old and a one—year—old, they have both been around him and i

trust him implicitly and i think thatis trust him implicitly and i think that is all down to good ownership. so his owner has spent a good time training him, socialising him. his recall is honestly amazing. i work in a pub, that is how i know my friend and he comes in every day and he lays there and he is so soft and gentle and people go and greet him and he is so good and he will roll overfor and he is so good and he will roll over for the and he is so good and he will roll overfor the kids. you know? if my son, might one year of the setting on the high chair he will sit at the bottom of it and watch and it is almost like he been protective of him, you know? he is the most sweet and gentle boy. him, you know? he is the most sweet and gentle boy-— him, you know? he is the most sweet and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am going _ and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am going to _ and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am going to bring _ and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am going to bring you - and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am going to bring you in - and gentle boy. natasha, do you know what? i am going to bring you in on i what? i am going to bring you in on the back of repeating something that natasha has said. the sweetest and

most gentle dog you will ever meet because that dog has been properly socialised, properly brought up by properly responsible people like the friend of natasha?

properly responsible people like the friend it natasha? properly responsible people like the friend it is atasha? properly responsible people like the friend it is irresponsible breeding. head, it is irresponsible breeding. you need — head, it is irresponsible breeding. you need to go to a responsible breeder~ — you need to go to a responsible breeder. can ijust tell you? he takes _ breeder. can ijust tell you? he takes that— breeder. can ijust tell you? he takes that dog with him every day to work, _ takes that dog with him every day to work. he _ takes that dog with him every day to work, he goes to horse guards where you have _ work, he goes to horse guards where you have horses... a phenomenal amount — you have horses... a phenomenal amount my— you have horses... a phenomenal amount. my son's dog is loose with the animals. — amount. my son's dog is loose with the animals, he has lived with the owners— the animals, he has lived with the owners and — the animals, he has lived with the owners and their children. he literally— owners and their children. he literally lies down with my son while — literally lies down with my son while he — literally lies down with my son while he is working. he is there all the time, — while he is working. he is there all the time, every day he goes out. do ou the time, every day he goes out. you know the time, every day he goes out. drr you know what these dogs are bred

for? have you any idea? thea;r you know what these dogs are bred for? have you any idea?— for? have you any idea? they are herdin: for? have you any idea? they are herding dogs _ for? have you any idea? they are herding dogs in — for? have you any idea? they are herding dogs in america - for? have you any idea? they are herding dogs in america to - for? have you any idea? they are herding dogs in america to herd l for? have you any idea? they are i herding dogs in america to herd the bil herding dogs in america to herd the big americanm _ herding dogs in america to herd the big american- - -_ big american... everything you can imatine, big american... everything you can imagine. that _ big american... everything you can imagine, that is _ big american... everything you can imagine, that is what _ big american... everything you can imagine, that is what you - big american... everything you can imagine, that is what you can - imagine, that is what you can imagine. they were bred imagine, that is what you can imagine. they were i-

imagine, that is what you can imagine. they size i- imagine, that is what you can imagine. they size of her; imagine, that is what you can imagine. they size of the dog... but it's not the size of the dog... i but it's not the size of the dog... i want _ but it's not the size of the dog... i want to— but it's not the size of the dog... i want to ask— but it's not the size of the dog... i want to ask a question. you have a five and three—year—old, would you leave them in a room on their own

with the dog?— with the dog? no, i wouldn't, because l'm _ with the dog? no, i wouldn't, because i'm a _ with the dog? no, i wouldn't, because i'm a responsible - with the dog? no, i wouldn't, - because i'm a responsible owner. and that is well because i'm a responsible owner. sixth. that is well said. because i'm a responsible owner. and that is well said. but _ because i'm a responsible owner. and that is well said. but when _ because i'm a responsible owner. and that is well said. but when i _ because i'm a responsible owner. and that is well said. but when i am - that is well said. but when i am there, that is well said. but when i am there. my _ that is well said. but when i am there. my kids _ that is well said. but when i am there, my kids are _ that is well said. but when i am there, my kids are there - that is well said. but when i am | there, my kids are there playing with the — there, my kids are there playing with the dog, the dog loves them to bits and _ with the dog, the dog loves them to bits and it _ with the dog, the dog loves them to bits and it isjust not my kids, their— bits and it isjust not my kids, their friends come from down the street— their friends come from down the street and — their friends come from down the street and play too. it is the training _ street and play too. it is the training from day one. young kids are getting — training from day one. young kids are getting dogs for status symbols, and they— are getting dogs for status symbols, and they are not training that dog to be _ and they are not training that dog to be nice — and they are not training that dog to be nice and gentle, they are training — to be nice and gentle, they are training to _ to be nice and gentle, they are training to be aggressive and scary. they are _ training to be aggressive and scary. they are the dogs that are attacking people _ they are the dogs that are attacking people. the they are the dogs that are attacking eo - le. , ., ., they are the dogs that are attacking --eole. , ., ., people. the question we are asking this morning _ people. the question we are asking this morning is _ people. the question we are asking this morning is should _ people. the question we are asking this morning is should we _ people. the question we are asking this morning is should we ban - people. the question we are asking this morning is should we ban xl i this morning is should we ban xl bully dogs? get in touch. this morning is should we ban xl

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"good morning, iam "good morning, i am a dog later." "good morning, i am a dog behaviourist and have to say from my experience, the bigger the dog, the bigger the responsibility. it is always about people and training. unfortunately, people who seem to buy these dogs seem to be in a certain category." "i am brokenhearted hearing these stories, sending my condolences." "i am furious at the dog — blaming, it is the owners explanation mark exclamation mark." a few exclamation

marks. i'll give you one more on the text. "the age old joke of the postie being bitten, i've been a postman for over 25 years and have been attacked many times. every single time bar one it was border collie is. and the one was a cocker spaniel. should be ban border collie is?" sorry i can't come on. never mind, tony, you came on and read it out and it was an interesting and pertinent text. to bite us?

not once has he tried to bite us? where did you get him from? i got where did you get him from? i got him off one _

where did you get him from? i got him off one of _ where did you get him from? i got him off one of my _ where did you get him from? i grrt him off one of my friends. i've had him off one of my friends. i've had him since he was a puppy, i've socialised him, socialised him with people, and he's literally, i could not knock him on anything. he is perfect. not knock him on anything. he is erfect. . , not knock him on anything. he is erfect. ., , ,, ., ., not knock him on anything. he is erfect. ., ,, ., ., , perfect. clearly you know about dogs and understand _ perfect. clearly you know about dogs and understand dogs, _ perfect. clearly you know about dogs and understand dogs, it _ perfect. clearly you know about dogs and understand dogs, it is _ perfect. clearly you know about dogs and understand dogs, it is the i and understand dogs, it is the people who are getting these dogs and no naff all about these wonderful animals, so they are creating delinquents. so you have a delinquent fact is strong, you delinquent fact is that strong, you have a problem. people like you are not the problem, are they? i have a problem. people like you are not the problem, are they?- not the problem, are they? i think it is wrong. _ not the problem, are they? i think it is wrong, like _ not the problem, are they? i think it is wrong, like people _ not the problem, are they? i think it is wrong, like people like i not the problem, are they? i think it is wrong, like people like me i not the problem, are they? i think. it is wrong, like people like me who actually look after the dogs and treat the dogs right and treat them with respect, then you get the people who just buy them to look good or buy them to make them nasty. and i think that is wrong, i think it's very wrong. if you haven't xl

and i think that is wrong, i think it's very wi i've if you haven't xl and i think that is wrong, i think it's very wi i've seen u haven't xl and i think that is wrong, i think it's very wi i've seen wonderfulil xl bullies. i've seen wonderful dogs. — xl bullies. i've seen wonderful dogs. and _ xl bullies. i've seen wonderful dogs, and i completely take the point _ dogs, and i completely take the point that the behaviourist you are speaking _ point that the behaviourist you are speaking to was making. yes, these do-s speaking to was making. yes, these dogs have _ speaking to was making. yes, these dogs have been potentially bred to select— dogs have been potentially bred to

select for— dogs have been potentially bred to select for aggression, attack dogs, they are _ select for aggression, attack dogs, they are particularly related to gangs — they are particularly related to gangs in — they are particularly related to gangs in america, i believe. and they— gangs in america, i believe. and they have — gangs in america, i believe. and they have been selected for some of those _ they have been selected for some of those traits, but that doesn't mean that all— those traits, but that doesn't mean that all of— those traits, but that doesn't mean that all of these dogs because they are big _ that all of these dogs because they are big and powerful, have strong 'aws are big and powerful, have strong jaws and — are big and powerful, have strong jaws and the capability to cause damage — jaws and the capability to cause damage are inherently aggressive. it does, _ damage are inherently aggressive. it does. in _ damage are inherently aggressive. it does. in my— damage are inherently aggressive. it does, in my opinion, really come down _ does, in my opinion, really come down to— does, in my opinion, really come down to dog ownership. ijust don't think— down to dog ownership. ijust don't think that _ down to dog ownership. ijust don't think that pre—specific legislation is the _ think that pre—specific legislation is the answer. i've been in practice at the _ is the answer. i've been in practice at the vets— is the answer. i've been in practice at the vets for long enough to see this go— at the vets for long enough to see this go on— at the vets for long enough to see this go on a — at the vets for long enough to see this go on a bit of a merry—go—round. and it is flavour of the month — merry—go—round. and it is flavour of the month at— merry—go—round. and it is flavour of the month. at the moment, it is xl bullies, _ the month. at the moment, it is xl bullies, if— the month. at the moment, it is xl bullies, if you ban those, it'll be something — bullies, if you ban those, it'll be something else. somebody breed a staffy— something else. somebody breed a staffy with something else that will be big _ staffy with something else that will be big and powerful, that will be the next — be big and powerful, that will be the next one that is hurting children— the next one that is hurting children and killing people's dogs. the answer in my mind is dog licensing _ the answer in my mind is dog licensing. we will not get to a degree — licensing. we will not get to a degree of responsible dog ownership, the type _ degree of responsible dog ownership, the type of people who are selecting

this breed _ the type of people who are selecting this breed because they want to look bil this breed because they want to look big and _ this breed because they want to look big and tough, they potentially even one of— big and tough, they potentially even one of them to be aggressive, we will not _ one of them to be aggressive, we will not deter them by banning the do-. will not deter them by banning the dog they— will not deter them by banning the dog. they will either have them illegally— dog. they will either have them illegally because it is not easy to enforce. — illegally because it is not easy to enforce. or— illegally because it is not easy to enforce, orthey illegally because it is not easy to enforce, or they will

illegally because it is not easy to enforce, ort you vill illegally because it is not easy to enforce. or t— illegally because it is not easy to enforce, ort next one. as you say, thank you. i appreciate — next one. as you say, thank you. i appreciate you _ next one. as you say, thank you. i appreciate you getting _ next one. as you say, thank you. i appreciate you getting in - next one. as you say, thank you. i appreciate you getting in touch, i next one. as you say, thank you. i appreciate you getting in touch, a | appreciate you getting in touch, a vet near southend, claire went some really important insights. it is

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door. have you got kids? yes, i do, a 23-week-old _ door. have you got kids? yes, i do, a 23-week-old little _ door. have you got kids? yes, i do, a 23-week-old little boy _ door. have you got kids? yes, i do, a 23-week-old little boy and - door. have you got kids? yes, i do, a 23-week-old little boy and a i a 23—week—old little boy and a 14—year—old who has grown up since being _ 14—year—old who has grown up since being five~ _ 14-year-old who has grown up since bein: five. 5: ~' ., 14-year-old who has grown up since bein: five. 5: ,, ., q 14-year-old who has grown up since bein: five. 5: ,, ., ., ., being five. 23-week-old baby? how do ou feel... being five. 23-week-old baby? how do you feel- -- l— being five. 23-week-old baby? how do you feel... i mean, _ being five. 23-week-old baby? how do you feel... i mean, do _ being five. 23-week-old baby? how do you feel... i mean, do they _ being five. 23-week-old baby? how do you feel... i mean, do they play i you feel... i mean, do they play with each other? i you feel. .. i mean, do they play with each other?— you feel... i mean, do they play with each other? i would trust him with each other? i would trust him with my life- _ with each other? i would trust him with my life. he _ with each other? i would trust him with my life. he has— with each other? i would trust him with my life. he has been - with each other? i would trust him with my life. he has been a - with each other? i would trust him with my life. he has been a dog i with each other? i would trust him i with my life. he has been a dog that will bark— with my life. he has been a dog that will bark at— with my life. he has been a dog that will bark at the door and people are coming _ will bark at the door and people are coming or— will bark at the door and people are coming or somebody is at the door. he is— coming or somebody is at the door. he is a _ coming or somebody is at the door. he is a bit— coming or somebody is at the door. he is a bit more protective of the house _ he is a bit more protective of the house but — he is a bit more protective of the house. but he used to cuddle my tummy— house. but he used to cuddle my tummy when i was pregnant, stuff

like that — tummy when i was pregnant, stuff like that i— tummy when i was pregnant, stuff like that. i have just seen him on the telly— like that. i have just seen him on the telly because i muted the telly! i the telly because i muted the telly! i love _ the telly because i muted the telly! i love him _ the telly because i muted the telly! i love him and absolutely trust him with my— i love him and absolutely trust him with my whole entire life, but... would _ with my whole entire life, but... would you — with my whole entire life, but... would you leave the dog in the room with the baby? h0. would you leave the dog in the room with the baby?— with the baby? no, that is what i was suki

up for bully breeds, but mike suki was crossed and had people in her, and pit _ was crossed and had people in her, and pit our— was crossed and had people in her, and pit our brand. —— my suki. were they— and pit our brand. —— my suki. were theyjust _ and pit our brand. —— my suki. were theyjust keep— and pit our brand. —— my suki. were theyjust keep banning the dogs? it willjust_ theyjust keep banning the dogs? it willjust not work. you probably do need _ willjust not work. you probably do need to— willjust not work. you probably do need to regulate it. 100%, but you can't _ need to regulate it. 100%, but you can't keep— need to regulate it. 100%, but you can't keep blaming the dogs, they don't _ can't keep blaming the dogs, they don't have — can't keep blaming the dogs, they don't have a voice. lots can't keep blaming the dogs, they don't have a voice.— don't have a voice. lots of people are calling — don't have a voice. lots of people are calling for _ don't have a voice. lots of people are calling for regulation, - don't have a voice. lots of people are calling for regulation, lots i don't have a voice. lots of people are calling for regulation, lots ofl are calling for regulation, lots of people talking about that this morning. we have claire earlier on saying it was too competitive, they willjust move on to some other genetic concoction. michael an event can be, i will get you to wrap it up for us at the end. michael, i want to get to you, you had one and had to get to you, you had one and had to get to you, you had one and had to get rid of it, why? i to get to you, you had one and had to get rid of it, why?— to get to you, you had one and had to get rid of it, why? i adopted him from battersea _ to get rid of it, why? i adopted him from battersea dogs _ to get rid of it, why? i adopted him from battersea dogs home, - to get rid of it, why? i adopted him from battersea dogs home, and i to get rid of it, why? i adopted him | from battersea dogs home, and the reason i got him was because he

looked extrovert, he certainly didn't look aggressive. he was a big dog, and it took me a while to train him on the lead. but he would just suddenly and randomly, without any provocation, if i was with friends, he would just suddenly lunge out and fight somebody, completely unexpected and without warning. and that became frequent. —— bite somebody. so i stopped taking him out. and the last and final straw was that he lunged for me when i was sitting in my armchair and we were

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