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a major investment, retraining and a transition for all of the employees there and making a hub for steel within the uk. find there and making a hub for steel within the uk.— there and making a hub for steel within the uk. and 'ust for you, for other workers — within the uk. and 'ust for you, for other workers and _ within the uk. and just for you, for other workers and for _ within the uk. and just for you, for other workers and for the - within the uk. and just for you, for other workers and for the town - other workers and for the town itself, what's it mean for port talbot and the workers? how are people feeling at the moment? obviously, it is still uncertainty. it has been hanging over them for a long time. there has always been the threat of the steelworks is going to close and downsize and they will not have a blast furnace there. but when you put on top of that the workforce 20 miles down the road, that is another 2000 people who would be redundant as well. there is not a lot of employment in the south wales valleys as well so if it is true and you are making thousands of people redundant, that will be a major, major disaster for the local communities.— major disaster for the local communities. �* ., ., , ., major disaster for the local communities. �* ., ., communities. and what would you say to government — communities. and what would you say to government if _ communities. and what would you say to government if you _ communities. and what would you say to government if you had _ communities. and what would you say to government if you had someone . to government if you had someone round the table right now? that to government if you had someone round the table right now?- round the table right now? that is art of it.
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round the table right now? that is part of it. where _ round the table right now? that is part of it. where were _ round the table right now? that is part of it. where were the - round the table right now? that is part of it. where were the unions | part of it. where were the unions and people because my voices at this time? we should have been around the table. but there is an opportunity to invest. there is an opportunity to invest. there is an opportunity to make sure people have the right skills, to make a just transition, and they should invest in south wales. it is to be a free port. port talbot has the capability to make the best deal in europe and we just need the investment to make that happen. need the investment to make that ha en. �* ,,�* need the investment to make that hauen,�* �* need the investment to make that ha-ren.�* �* ., need the investment to make that ha-ren.�* �* .,, happen. and you're off to see some of our happen. and you're off to see some of your members — happen. and you're off to see some of your members now _ happen. and you're off to see some of your members now and - happen. and you're off to see some of your members now and talk - of your members now and talk to them. what are you going to say to them? , ., , , them? obviously, unite will fight tooth and nail— them? obviously, unite will fight tooth and nail to _ them? obviously, unite will fight tooth and nailto make _ them? obviously, unite will fight tooth and nail to make sure - them? obviously, unite will fight tooth and nail to make sure that| them? obviously, unite will fight i tooth and nail to make sure that we protect every job that tooth and nail to make sure that we protect everyjob that is there. we have not seen the company wasn't plants. it seems they were a bit rushed. whenever you are going to a transition to an electric arc furnace, that will not happen overnight. you might be talking four or five years down the line. so we have got to be there for our members. we will be there for our members. we will be there for our members. and we will be putting plans forward to make sure there is a long—term future for port talbot.
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and that was peter hughes of the unite union responding to the tata steel announcement earlier. i also spoke to our correspondentjust after the agreement was confirmed. what is interesting is in that information, from what i have seen, there is nothing aboutjobs, it seems to be a transition, an amount of money that will be put into this site here, 400 million from the uk government, so you are talking about seven and a half million from tata steel. those reports in the media seem to be bang on, really, from what has come out now in this proposal. nothing aboutjobs. and it does say that it is going to be one electric arc furnace. you have two blast furnaces here. at one stage, it was capable of producing around five megatons, the figures could be wrong, but they are down to around
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three now on this electric arc furnace. the guesses it would produce about three so still less. so undoubtedly it will have a knock—on effect on jobs. how many? we are not sure. i have spoken to several steelworkers here this morning over the course of the last few days. the people that work on heavy industry, that work on the blast furnace and the coke department and the centreline in the blast furnace, that is 1500 people. you need only 10% of that for an electric arc furnace and if you can't create all of those different types of steel, it has a massive impact on steelworks down the line in different parts of south wales and across the country as well. let's cross live now to head of analysis at the energy and climate intelligence unit. lovely to have you with us here on bbc news. the uk government on their website describing this as one of the
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largest investments by themselves in order to secure a sustainable future. is it? what is your reaction?— future. is it? what is your reaction? ., , ., , ., future. is it? what is your reaction? ., ., , reaction? the main story today is the tragedy _ reaction? the main story today is the tragedy of — reaction? the main story today is the tragedy of these _ reaction? the main story today is the tragedy of these job - reaction? the main story today is the tragedy of these job losses, i reaction? the main story today is i the tragedy of these job losses, and that needn't have happened. as previous speakers have said, there are alternative ways to do this transition in the steel sector. port talbot has blast furnaces which make what we call virgin steel, so new still from iron or, that accounts for about 75% of steel produced in the uk. now, that process can be done using hydrogen, which would be a green technology. we see the first hydrogen blast furnace in the world openin hydrogen blast furnace in the world open in sweden very soon. germany has nine such projects in development. the uk focusing purely on electric arc furnaces is a bit limited. they are good for producing recycled steel, which will be increasingly important, but that is all —— that is not all you need. we need this diversity of supply in the
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steel sector. need this diversity of supply in the steel sector-— steel sector. that is really interesting _ steel sector. that is really interesting because - steel sector. that is really interesting because again | steel sector. that is really - interesting because again looking at the government website, they say that this investment package, it is still described as proposed, so i believe it has to go through various other agreements, will protect skilled jobs. are you saying that these jobs will be lost? we skilled jobs. are you saying that these jobs will be lost?- these jobs will be lost? we are heafina these jobs will be lost? we are hearing that — these jobs will be lost? we are hearing that there _ these jobs will be lost? we are hearing that there will - these jobs will be lost? we are hearing that there will be - these jobs will be lost? we are| hearing that there will be some these jobs will be lost? we are - hearing that there will be some job losses so the government may be protecting some jobs but the point is that by having a wider range of technologies and having a hydrogen blast furnace... find technologies and having a hydrogen blast furnace. . ._ blast furnace... and i ask you to pause- -- — blast furnace... and i ask you to pause- -- l _ blast furnace... and i ask you to pause--- ljust— blast furnace... and i ask you to pause... ijust need _ blast furnace... and i ask you to pause... ijust need to - blast furnace... and i ask you to pause... ijust need to say - blast furnace... and i ask you to i pause... ijust need to say goodbye to some of our viewers. i am coming back to you. this is bbc news. more coming up shortly. so let us return to simon. he is discussing this announcement by the uk government of announcement by the uk government of
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an investment package of around £500 million in tata steel and the port talbot steelworks in wales, so let me just go back to that question. the bbc that make the uk government website has said that in order to secure the sustainable future for port talbot, they will modernise and produce greener steel but also allowing it to protect skilled jobs. all we are hearing about is potential rather likely to see these job losses. whatjob losses are we expecting and which jobs are the government referring to? well. expecting and which jobs are the government referring to? well, the port talbot site _ government referring to? well, the port talbot site currently _ government referring to? well, the port talbot site currently employs l port talbot site currently employs around 8000 people. if they replace the blast furnaces with electric arc furnace, there are estimates that around 3000 jobs could be cut, so the government technically would be saving 5000 jobs perhaps but losing
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three and the argument put forward ljy three and the argument put forward by unions and others is that the uk could have a bigger diversity of steel production including modern hydrogen blast furnaces, which wouldn't result in the same job losses, so guess the government has preserved some jobs but it is really a missed opportunity to preserve more of those skilled jobs and transitioning into a low—carbon economy would have a much stronger future. . , w' , economy would have a much stronger future. , , a , , future. ok, 'ust very quickly, 'ust describe future. ok, just very quickly, 'ust describe decarbonisation �* future. ok, just very quickly, 'ust describe decarbonisation for h future. ok, just very quickly, just describe decarbonisation for us . future. ok, just very quickly, just l describe decarbonisation for us and to what degree will britain reduce its carbon emissions by two this agreement, this move? decarbonisation is the move to use less fossil fuels and improve our land use to try to reduce the impact of climate change and the uk and countries around the world are committed to achieving this. heavy
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industry such as steel—making is a significant contribution overall and i believe that replacing the coal blast furnace at port talbot could reduce uk emissions by 2.2%. i think thatis reduce uk emissions by 2.2%. i think that is the correct figure. so not a huge amount, but a significant impact from one change. the point is that this could be achieved by other means that doesn't result in the hugejob means that doesn't result in the huge job losses.— means that doesn't result in the huge job losses. huge 'ob losses. yes, 'ust as you were huge job losses. yes, 'ust as you were saying * huge job losses. yes, 'ust as you were saying that, _ huge job losses. yes, 'ust as you were saying that, i _ huge job losses. yes, just as you were saying that, i have - were saying that, i have double—checked and they could reduce the ukip is my entire carbon emission by around 1.5%, as you pointed out. in terms of the steelworks and the steel industry within the uk, how healthy is it? the industry was really in crisis about seven or eight years ago. we have seen exports and uk steel
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exports fall significantly but you can use of steel and production of steel has remained firm over the last several years and that is into part to the uk automotive industry being much more secure and that of course has had some bumps in the road recently. we know that carbon industries around the world had transitioned to electric vehicles and for that we need investment in battery manufacturing and the government has managed to secure some investment in batteries recently. so if you have this ongoing better coordination between the sectors and between the government, then uk steel could have a really good future, both automotive and also increasingly from renewables.— automotive and also increasingly from renewables. thank you. thank ou ve from renewables. thank you. thank you very much _ from renewables. thank you. thank you very much indeed. _ from renewables. thank you. thank you very much indeed. head - from renewables. thank you. thank you very much indeed. head of- you very much indeed. head of analysis at the energy and climate intelligence unit, reacting to the announcement from the uk government
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and tata steel of an investment package by the uk government of up to £500 million. to some big news coming into us here and the prime minister has announced that the government will ban the american bully dog under the dangerous dogs act. rishi sunak says he has ordered urgent work in order to end the violent attacks and keep people safe, saying that the breed is a danger to communities, particularly children. we are going to catch up the weather now. hello. another day of the contrast. we have warm tangibility filling in from the south so lots of sunshine particularly in wales but there is some rain in the forecast and much fresher conditions for north is well. all down to the fact that we have got this waving weather front. you can see on the satellite image this swathe of cloud here. edging
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north, bringing some rain but also dividing much coolerfresher air across the north from the humid air thatis across the north from the humid air that is coming into the self which will mean temperatures on the rise for today and tomorrow before things turn more unsettled by sunday. back to today, here is the slow—moving band of rain affecting the scottish borders, parts of northumberland for a time into county down and into the isle of man as well so only 13 or 14 to the north of that rain band but into the south and in the sunshine 24—hour 25. into the south and in the sunshine 24—hour25. feeling into the south and in the sunshine 24—hour 25. feeling pleasant with high cloud bubbling up and humidity increasing as well. to this evening and overnight comedy band of cloud and overnight comedy band of cloud and rain becomes a little bit more fragmented and showery in nature. they will be some heavy showers breaking into the channel islands and the south—west we can hear the odd rumble of thunder. mild and murky elsewhere. fog patches farming but fresher in the north and into single figures under those clearer skies. through saturday, we have still got the band of cloud and rain. not quite as heavy or
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persistent as today. moving further south so an improvement for parts of scotland and northern ireland. a relatively cool 60 degrees. down towards the south, in the sunshine, highs up to 26 or 27. it is all change into sunday as we see thunderstorms moving on from the south. some heavy downpours, blustery winds with some of the showers becoming extensive across much of england, wales and northern ireland. little more dry across the north of scotland but those temperatures into the mid to high teens. into monday and we have is more persistent band of rain, this fund which is tracking slowly eastwards. we still hold on to someone that the south that we are looking at fresher conditions moving in from the west and an unsettled picture by monday. blustery showers and that is going to be the story through much of the week. next few days certainly very warm in the south and a country breakdown on sunday. unsettled into next week.
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live from london. this is bbc news. shelter, food and medical care... the un's humanitarian chief outlines the immediate needs forflood—ravaged libya. at least 11,000 people are dead.
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this is a tragedy in which climate and capacity have collided. the former spanish football federation president — luis rubiales — is in court in madrid to decide whether he should face trial for sexual assault. hello, i'm lucy hockings, welcome to bbc news now, three hours of fast—moving news, interviews and reaction. the united nations say there is an urgent need for shelter, food and primary medical care in the areas in libya destroyed by some because like blood. the number of people who died in the city of derna has risen to 11,000. that is according to the red crescent. that figure is expected to grow as the recovery effort continues and more bodies are retrieved from the mud. officials estimate that
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about 30,000 people have been left homeless.

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