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and for most of and eastern england and for most of us quite a comfortable night's�*s sleep ahead. a whole mixture of weather tomorrow. the weather front is still there in southern scotland, central scotland, northern england, north wales. a view patches of rain probably eating through the day. an odd shower for south—west england and southern parts of wales. for the midlands and eastern england, a hot day and temperatures could reach 27 again. should see increasing amounts of sunshine working southwards across scotland and into northern ireland through the afternoon. for sunday, another change in the weather picture. some thundery rain moving up from the south. the amount of rain we see from this will vary a lot from place to place but could be heavy enough to bring some localised surface water flooding. the temperatures, rather than mid to high 20s, generally high teens to low 20s. as we look at the weather picture next week, all change again. something that will feel and look a lot more like a typical autumn spell of weather. wet, windy, blustery,
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lots of showers around at those temperatures, although coming down, are actually still generally going to be a little bit above average and thatis to be a little bit above average and that is something we have rarely seen so far this september. thanks, chris. and that's bbc news at ten. there's more analysis of the day's main stories age, but thousands ofjobs are now at risk. the indian owners of the port talbot plant in south wales, tata, say a deep restructuring will be required but the coal—filled blast furnaces will be replaced by an electric furnace. in and of itself it will eliminate
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1.5% of the uk's carbon emissions. is this part of a coherent strategy to green our economy or the latest last—minute brandishing of the chequebook? we're in port talbot tonight. what does the situation here tell us about the uk's willingness to fully fund the green transition, and also about that transition�*s potential social costs? we will discuss this with a cabinet minister and the unions. also tonight... tomorrow marks a year since the death of the iranian woman mahsa amini at the hands of iran's authorities. we speak to her father. translation: the death of mahsa shocked our— translation: the death of mahsa shocked our family. _ translation: the death of mahsa shocked our family. we _ translation: the death of mahsa shocked our family. we haven't - translation: the death of mahsa | shocked our family. we haven't been shocked ourfamily. we haven't been able to deal with this shocking and heartbreaking tragedy. her innocent face is in front of our eyes day and night. and lights.... ..camera, no action. how the hollywood writers'
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and actors' strike is hitting livelihoods in brtain�*s world beating film and tv industry. we speak to a leading british stuntman whose major movies are all on pause. good evening. there have been blast furnaces making molten steel at over 1.000 degrees celsius from coal almost continuously for over a century at port talbot in south wales. under britain's net zero climate change plans, that method of making steel, responsible for 1.5% of our carbon emissions, was always under threat. now the site will be the home to a state—of—the—art electric arc furnace, collapsing the carbon emissions from the site. the government has provided half a billion pounds to tata in addition to a further half a billion supplied to the same company to build a new electric vehicle battery plant in somerset. is the uk getting the chequebook out to compete in a global race for green industry supremacy with the us, eu and china? or is this a very tentative dip of the toes in the water that doesn't compare with the 3 billion euros offered by france and germany to its steelmakers, nor the £3 billion plan originally
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floated by tata? the unions say it's not enough, and thousands ofjobs will go. the government say thousands have been saved. ben is in port talbot to unpick this deal, and what it says about our industrial future. the uk's largest steelworks saved, but not saved intact. an electric arc furnace will replace the ageing coal—fired blast furnaces here, with the owners tata steel investing £750 million and the uk government chipping in £500 million. but with an arc furnace being less labour—intensive to run, it is an announcement that also implies thousands ofjob losses on this site and elsewhere in the uk. i've been here just over 41 years, started on the blast furnaces as a 16—year—old. i wouldn't like to lose myjob but it's the youngsters, my son works here, he's 26, and i'd like for him to have the future that i had, the opportunities that i had here.
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the government argues that this funding decision will safeguard many jobs here in port talbot relative to doing nothing, and that is certainly true, but the criticism of the government is that it should be thinking bigger and spending more to safeguard not just some jobs here but alljobs, and by not doing so, it risks the uk not fully realising the economic opportunities of net zero and making it seem like a destroyer of good localjobs. locally for the community it's going to be devastating if those job losses do come to fruition, and i think it will probably turn a lot of people in this area off because this will decimate the whole m4 corridor. is that a price worth paying? so could the government have done more to secure these jobs, for instance by investing in hydrogen steelmaking as they are in parts of europe? if you'd have asked me and i had an unlimited purse, i would definitely have invested more, i think if you compare this to the investments that they have in europe, for individual sites, it's not quite at that level. it does deliver a decarbonised
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footprint for the business but i can't stress enough, this really is a positive step for the uk and it does provide an opportunity to develop new supply chains, new business models that could expand the sector in the future. the uk steel sector currently employs over 32,000 people, principally in wales and yorkshire and humberside. and the wages in the sector are 18% higher than the national average. just to see the job distribution shows how vital preserving that employment is for any hope of regional levelling up. the welsh government recognised that today's deal provides significant investment in port talbot but also voiced concern about the impact on jobs and urged tata to consult meaningfully with affected workers. uk steel production has long been in decline, production last year was actually the lowest since the great depression of the 1930s, yet the sector is still responsible for 2.5% of the uk's total greenhouse gas emissions, so decarbonisation can't be avoided if the uk is to hit its net zero targets.
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moreover, steel is also a vital part of building a low—carbon economy, with the metal needed to make wind turbines and electric vehicles, sectors where the government sees future domestic job growth opportunities. there is a bigger context here, a failed wind power auction last week after the government set the price too low to attract any bids has raised the question about whether ministers are putting enough resources into meeting their own ambitious decarbonisation targets, or are they in danger of making false economies? we think the government should have put more money into this decarbonisation plan. decarbonisation could be a massive plus for this country, but we're falling behind all the time. it's like the government doesn't have a proper industrial strategy going forward. the future of port talbot and uk green steel more broadly could prove a key test of whether the government really does, as it insists, have a joined—up plan for a net zero transition, one that not only retains jobs
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but increases the number. but increases their number. i'm joined now by the national steel 0fficerfor the gmb trade union, charlotte brumpton—childs. thanks very much forjoining us. what is your issue, the government has saved 5000 jobs, has it not, one of the largest ever government support packages? i of the largest ever government support packages?— of the largest ever government support packages? i think we've heard in the _ support packages? i think we've heard in the clips _ support packages? i think we've heard in the clipsjust _ support packages? i think we've heard in the clipsjust meet - support packages? i think we've. heard in the clipsjust meet some support packages? i think we've - heard in the clipsjust meet some of heard in the clips just meet some of theissues heard in the clips just meet some of the issues with it. it is not ambitious enough, it doesn't go far enough and it ignores the conversations that we've been having as representatives of the workforce with the business for the last of years. pre—cop26 there was a report published talking about decarbonising the steel industry and how with the right investment and the right technologies we could grow and build the industry in a way that hasn't been seen for decades now. this is quick fixes, investing in
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not all of the right technologies, and i don't that any sort of plan that will result in 3000 people losing theirjobs is the right plan moving forward. but losing theirjobs is the right plan moving forward.— losing theirjobs is the right plan movin: forward. �* . , . , moving forward. but was there really an other moving forward. but was there really any other viable _ moving forward. but was there really any other viable option _ moving forward. but was there really any other viable option on _ any other viable option on the table? hydrogen is not really proven yet, carbon capture and storage isn't really proving yet, this is the only working alternative, is it not, to a blast furnace? 50. not, to a blast furnace? so, hydrogen — not, to a blast furnace? so, hydrogen and _ not, to a blast furnace? so, hydrogen and direct - not, to a blast furnace? srr, hydrogen and direct reduced not, to a blast furnace? sc, hydrogen and direct reduced iron not, to a blast furnace? s513, hydrogen and direct reduced iron is proven technology and it complement steel working really well in fact the plan that we put forward to the business on several occasions has been a mixture of both technologies. there is a huge issue with electric arc furnace steel in that we cannot produce all grades that we currently can, which puts a big question mark over plants like the one which is the supplier to heinz for the tins for baked beans, there are some issues with panels for the automotive sector because we can't
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produce a higher quality surface finish with electric art furnace steel that we could if we had a mixture of blast furnace and electric arc furnace steel moving forward. it also puts us on a single technology path moving forward rather than having diverse options available to the steel industry in the next 5—10 years to take into account the technologies that are currently being developed and will soon be available. just wondering, as a union. — soon be available. just wondering, as a union, are _ soon be available. just wondering, as a union, are you _ soon be available. just wondering, as a union, are you quite - soon be available. just wondering, as a union, are you quite sniffy - as a union, are you quite sniffy about net zero and climate change? you seem to be sceptical about electric arc furnaces... ? you seem to be sceptical about electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely not, gmb electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely not. gmb have _ electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely not, gmb have got _ electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely not, gmb have got a _ electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely not, gmb have got a proud - electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely not, gmb have got a proud history| electric arc furnaces. . . ? absolutely i not, gmb have got a proud history of supporting net zero and championing the on shoring ofjobs in the process. we should not be selling our workers' jobs to achieve a false net zero while offshoring our carbon emissions and the good, well—paid, unionised jobs in the process. you only have to look to the steelworks in scunthorpe where i started my
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apprenticeship, they closed the coke ovens earlier this year, they are not using less coke, it has not reduced carbon emissions for the steel they are producing, but it has offshore to those carbon responsibilities and with it, 300 jobs, to other countries that have got different rules around carbon emission taxing. irate got different rules around carbon emission taxing.— got different rules around carbon emission taxing. we must leave it there, emission taxing. we must leave it there. thank— emission taxing. we must leave it there, thank you _ emission taxing. we must leave it there, thank you for _ emission taxing. we must leave it there, thank you forjoining - emission taxing. we must leave it there, thank you forjoining us, i there, thank you forjoining us, charlotte brumpton—childs from the gmb. and joining me now is the secretary of state for wales, david tc davies. thank you forjoining us. you have spent half £1 billion, workers feel ignored because you did not consult them? , ., , , ignored because you did not consult them? , ., _ ., ., ., them? obviously, the negotiation went on between _ them? obviously, the negotiation went on between tata _ them? obviously, the negotiation went on between tata who - them? obviously, the negotiation went on between tata who were l went on between tata who were threatening to pull out of the uk completely and the government who were in a position to try and prevent and we have done our very, very very best here. if tata had pulled out we would have lost 8000 jobs, mostly in wales, we would have lost another 12,500 in the supply chain, so basically the deal we have done today was the only deal that was on the table, it was to
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encourage tata to stay in wales, to produce steel here using electric arc furnace and the government have put half £1 billion towards that, we have done that because we care very much about steelmaking and about wales and i'm very grateful the prime minister personally signed that deal off. hand prime minister personally signed that deal off.— that deal off. and to clarify, it will be the — that deal off. and to clarify, it will be the end _ that deal off. and to clarify, it will be the end eventually - that deal off. and to clarify, it will be the end eventually of. that deal off. and to clarify, it i will be the end eventually of the conventional blast furnace in port talbot, can you clarify how many jobs that will mean being lost, 3000 is what we have heard? i jobs that will mean being lost, 3000 is what we have heard?— is what we have heard? i can't give an exact figure _ is what we have heard? i can't give an exact figure because _ is what we have heard? i can't give an exact figure because there - is what we have heard? i can't give an exact figure because there is . an exact figure because there is a legal process that tata have to go through in terms of consulting, the figure of 3000 jobs is a realistic one at the same time that means 5000 jobs being saved directly in steelmaking and another 12,500 in the supply chain, so the deal we have done today has saved roughly 7500 jobs. have done today has saved roughly 7500jobs. —— have done today has saved roughly 7500 jobs. -- 17,500 have done today has saved roughly 7500 jobs. —— 17,500 jobs, have done today has saved roughly 7500jobs. ——17,500jobs, but have done today has saved roughly 7500 jobs. —— 17,500 jobs, but that is not to say i am celebrating this, i am very, very sorry about that the
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fact that 3005 people are losing their jobs, fact that 3005 people are losing theirjobs, so on top of the half £1 billion the government have put in for the electric arc furnace, they have also committed a fund of up to £100 million to try and support people through this very difficult transition. but people through this very difficult transition. �* , �* ., , transition. but isn't the reality ou transition. but isn't the reality you could _ transition. but isn't the reality you could have _ transition. but isn't the reality you could have spent - transition. but isn't the reality you could have spent more, i transition. but isn't the reality i you could have spent more, like transition. but isn't the reality - you could have spent more, like the french or the germans investing in hydrogen, or, as was originally asked for by tata, a much bigger scheme, and you could have done this much earlier? ida. scheme, and you could have done this much earlier?— much earlier? no, i spoke to tata toda , much earlier? no, i spoke to tata today. the — much earlier? no, i spoke to tata today, the original _ much earlier? no, i spoke to tata today, the original argument - much earlier? no, i spoke to tata today, the original argument overj today, the original argument over money was about how much the government were willing to put in towards the electric arc furnace. these stories have been leaked over the last six months or so, i cannot comment on exact what was going on but these are stories that were leaked were not wide of the mark, where tata started off by asking for a much higherfigure toward the electric arc furnace and we came to an agreement somewhere in the middle. hydrogen was not being discussed. i spoke about hydrogen today with senior management, they don't think the technology is ready,
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there is one plant in sweden which is in an experimental phase at the moment, if you look into this issue you will see that there are a lot of concerns about the length of time it is taking. we do need a quick fix. i think the lady spoke then about a quick fix, we need a quick fix for those people who are there. this is proven technology.— proven technology. another criticism will be that this — proven technology. another criticism will be that this is _ proven technology. another criticism will be that this is not _ proven technology. another criticism will be that this is not part _ proven technology. another criticism will be that this is not part of- proven technology. another criticism will be that this is not part of a - will be that this is not part of a coherent industrial strategy, you were part of this government when two years ago they abandoned the industrial strategy and disbanded the industrial strategy council, aren't we paying the price for that, do you have an industrial strategy now, secretary of state? do you have an industrial strategy now, secretary of state ?- do you have an industrial strategy now, secretary of state? well, we have 'ust now, secretary of state? well, we have just demonstrated, - now, secretary of state? well, we have just demonstrated, haven't l now, secretary of state? well, we i have just demonstrated, haven't we? we had a situation where tata were threatening to pull out of the united kingdom and stop all steelmaking and we went to them and we have agreed a deal. the best possible deal we could get for the taxpayer, we are putting half £1 billion of taxpayers' money on the table to say we want you to stay and we want you to develop a new
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technology, a different technology, electric arc technology, which is already tried and tested, that is going to save 17,500 jobs, if that is not a strategy, i don't know what is. ~ , , , is not a strategy, i don't know what is. . , , . , is not a strategy, i don't know what is. ~ , , . , m, is. with respect, it is scattergun, the cheque-book _ is. with respect, it is scattergun, the cheque-book comes - is. with respect, it is scattergun, the cheque-book comes out... it| is. with respect, it is scattergun, l the cheque-book comes out... it is not the cheque-book comes out... it is rrot scattergun _ the cheque-book comes out... it is not scattergun at _ the cheque—book comes out... it 3 not scattergun at all, there was a very careful negotiation which has taken place over many, many months now, to try and make sure we got the best possible deal from the taxpayer but that we saved the maximum number ofjobs but that we saved the maximum number of jobs and at but that we saved the maximum number ofjobs and at the end of the day that blast furnace was losing over a day, no company, no government, is going to be able to accept losses like that. it was not our decision to close the blast furnace, that was tata's, they lost £400 million last year, an indian company is not going to keep open a blast furnace which is losing £400 million a year, they had taken the decision to pull out of the uk, our strategy was clear, we want them to stay, we want steelmaking to stay, and we want steelmaking to stay, and we want steelmaking which is fit for the zist steelmaking which is fit for the 21st century, which means much less
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carbon intensive, we have now got an electric arc furnace, tried and tested technology.— electric arc furnace, tried and tested technology. there are voices in our tested technology. there are voices in your party _ tested technology. there are voices in your party saying _ tested technology. there are voices in your party saying that _ tested technology. there are voices in your party saying that the - tested technology. there are voices in your party saying that the future | in your party saying that the future for the conservatives is a move away from this, you yourself have been sceptical about climate change, writing letters to pop stairs questioning their touring arrangementsjust a few questioning their touring arrangements just a few years ago, are you...? a p0p a pop group funding extinction rebellion protests then travelling around the world byjet, that was hypocrisy. nothing to do with 3000 people losing theirjobs. 17,500 jobs are being saved. we are demonstrating this today by half £1 billion going into an electric arc furnace which is going to be less carbon intensive and at the same time going to save thousands ofjobs in port talbot. we are putting on £100 million, bearing in mind 3000 people are losing theirjobs. i'm not celebrating this decision, tata
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have decided they're going to close at blast furnace. i understand why, the huge losses they're making but i am very sorry those people who lose theirjobs am very sorry those people who lose their jobs that's why am very sorry those people who lose theirjobs that's why i was keen to make sure that the government on top of the money they are putting on put in more money to help support port talbot which is a wonderful talent, through the spirit. the talbot which is a wonderful talent, through the spirit.— talbot which is a wonderful talent, through the spirit. the secretary of state for wales, _ through the spirit. the secretary of state for wales, david _ through the spirit. the secretary of state for wales, david tc _ through the spirit. the secretary of state for wales, david tc davies, l state for wales, david tc davies, thank you very much forjoining us. tomorrow marks a year since the death of mahsa amini, who died in iranian morality police custody. she was accused of failing to comply with strict hair—covering rules and her death sparked months of protest in what's been described as the most significant challenge to the iranian regime in its 44—year history. iranian security forces have arrested members of mahsa's family, including herfather, briefly. communicating with people inside iran is difficult as internet is restricted and international calls are disrupted. newsnight�*s ali hamedani has spoken with amjad amini in farsi over the past few months and heard from him about his daughter's death and the subsequent protests.
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my my name is amjad amini, the father of mossad are many. i am 53. in september 2022, we went on a summer holiday to the north of iran. there is a picture of my daughter mustered a mini during the vacation. honorary back to our home town include a stand we stopped into france. it was her first trip to the capital. —— we stopped in iran. it would be before she started university, we had just enrolled her to begin university —— we stopped in tehran. the last days of her summer holiday she wanted to visit a famous bridge in uptown tehran but she never made it as she was arrested by the morality police. they took her to the police station.
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she asked in the police station, but why? i asked them to show me the footage from the body cameras. they told me that the cameras were out of charge and i asked why she was not transferred to the hospital earlier when she collapsed at the police station and they said that the ambulance's key was lost by 20 minutes and they couldn't find it. i still do not believe that she is not with us. they didn't show my daughter to me. after a long struggle with the authorities, i saw her dead body. there were bruises on her dead body. there were bruises on herfeet her dead body. there were bruises on her feet and hands.
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the death of mahsa shocked our family and a year after the death of our beloved daughter we have not been able to deal with this heartbreaking tragedy. her innocent face is in front of our eyes, day and night. it is not easy to move on from this tragedy. joining me now is azadeh pourzand, a human rights researcher and writer who grew up in iran and now lives in london and rob macaire, who was the uk's ambassador to iran from 2018 to 2021. welcome to you both. 0bviously one year on from the death in police custody and widespread protests sparked, what remains of theseif protests sparked, what remains of these if any? i protests sparked, what remains of these if any?— these if any? i characterise the woman life _ these if any? i characterise the woman life redone _ these if any? i characterise the l woman life redone revolutionary process movement as a climactic moment —— woman, life, freedom. and
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applying forjustice in iran. 0ne applying forjustice in iran. one year after the death of mahsa amini in custody, what we see is that iranian woman, minority groups, demand change and continue to demand fundamental change. explicitly, regime change. and they are even, i would say, more discontent and i read in last year, because of the scale of atrocities and crackdown by the islamic republic in the past year, against not only protesters that are adults but children who were killed, shot, detained and so on so, while we don't see protest in large scale because of the crackdown, the same exact demands remain as they were with, i would say, more face than they were before. ., ., , ., .,
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before. you were the ambassador to iran before. you were the ambassador to iran between — before. you were the ambassador to iran between 2018-2021, _ before. you were the ambassador to iran between 2018-2021, you - before. you were the ambassador to iran between 2018-2021, you were l iran between 2018—2021, you were arrested for attending a different protest and an effigy of yu was burned so you understand this oppression. what is being done to support these protesters? it is oppression. what is being done to support these protesters?- support these protesters? it is an extraordinary _ support these protesters? it is an extraordinary year _ support these protesters? it is an extraordinary year in _ support these protesters? it is an extraordinary year in iran, - support these protesters? it is an extraordinary year in iran, and - support these protesters? it is an extraordinary year in iran, and we heard _ extraordinary year in iran, and we heard before, about the killing of mahsa _ heard before, about the killing of mahsa amini but watching it over the last year. _ mahsa amini but watching it over the last year. it _ mahsa amini but watching it over the last year, it has been clearly, a different— last year, it has been clearly, a different situation has now emerged, and it— different situation has now emerged, and it has— different situation has now emerged, and it has demonstrated the collapse in this regime and incredible courage _ in this regime and incredible courage of people coming out not 'ust courage of people coming out not just on— courage of people coming out not just on the — courage of people coming out not just on the streets to demonstrations but then after the suppression of demonstrations the daily courage of people coming out to show_ daily courage of people coming out to show that they are not going to wear— to show that they are not going to wear a _ to show that they are not going to wear a hijab or comply with other
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restrictive — wear a hijab or comply with other restrictive regulations by the regime, _ restrictive regulations by the regime, and i think the regime sees that as _ regime, and i think the regime sees that as we _ regime, and i think the regime sees that as we all see it. what can we do to— that as we all see it. what can we do to support it? obviously we could all do _ do to support it? obviously we could all do more — do to support it? obviously we could all do more to support what is happening inside the country but i think— happening inside the country but i think that — happening inside the country but i think that this is the iranian people's— think that this is the iranian people's struggle. i think that the regime _ people's struggle. i think that the regime can see that the current situation, — regime can see that the current situation, there is a gridlock. they cannot— situation, there is a gridlock. they cannot build support, legitimacy or credibility— cannot build support, legitimacy or credibility with the vast majority of the _ credibility with the vast majority of the people but the people have not been — of the people but the people have not been able to overthrow the regime — not been able to overthrow the regime in — not been able to overthrow the regime in a non—violent way so something _ regime in a non—violent way so something has to change, there is a demand _ something has to change, there is a demand of— something has to change, there is a demand of the iranian people for change _ demand of the iranian people for change which is so apparent and i think— change which is so apparent and i think the — change which is so apparent and i think the people inside the regime will he _ think the people inside the regime will be seen that as well as we see it. ,., will be seen that as well as we see it. , ., will be seen that as well as we see it. ,., will be seen that as well as we see it. do you share that view? there were sanctions _ it. do you share that view? there were sanctions by _ it. do you share that view? there were sanctions by the _ it. do you share that view? there were sanctions by the uk - it. do you share that view? there were sanctions by the uk and - it. do you share that view? there i were sanctions by the uk and allies, do you think the west is doing enough? i
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do you think the west is doing enou:h? , ., do you think the west is doing enou:h? , . ., do you think the west is doing enouth? , . ., enough? i believe that what we saw ost the enough? i believe that what we saw post the death _ enough? i believe that what we saw post the death of _ enough? i believe that what we saw post the death of mahsa _ enough? i believe that what we saw post the death of mahsa amini i enough? i believe that what we saw post the death of mahsa amini until today, the number of statements released by western countries including the uk for orfor example at the un, making sure that we have an independent un fact—finding mission on the atrocities committed, as human rights advocates, we certainly welcome and we work hard to get, however, if you speak to the average protester on the ground, they do not think that the west has done enough, and they frankly, expressed dissatisfaction with statements of condemnation. they get very disheartening to see that the
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west is hoping to re—engage with the islamic republic, even talks of another nuclear deal, and here in the uk, there are demands of them being on the terror list and so on, so the average iranian feels that the west can do more.— so the average iranian feels that the west can do more. what do you assess will — the west can do more. what do you assess will happen this _ the west can do more. what do you assess will happen this weekend? i the west can do more. what do you i assess will happen this weekend? one year on, could there be a resurgence in protest? the year on, could there be a resurgence in rotest? year on, could there be a resurgence in protest?— in protest? the regime has shown that it has a _ in protest? the regime has shown that it has a lot _ in protest? the regime has shown that it has a lot of— in protest? the regime has shown that it has a lot of power- in protest? the regime has shown that it has a lot of power and i in protest? the regime has shown that it has a lot of power and is i that it has a lot of power and is utterly— that it has a lot of power and is utterly ruthless habit to deploys that power to suppress protests so that will— that power to suppress protests so that will be a factor but coming back— that will be a factor but coming back on— that will be a factor but coming back on what the west does, one thing that— back on what the west does, one thing that is important, from my experience of talking to people, 'ust experience of talking to people, just preserving that space for independentjournalism, which cannot independent journalism, which cannot really take _ independentjournalism, which cannot really take place inside the country but can— really take place inside the country but can take place outside, and the farsi _ but can take place outside, and the farsi language services that broadcast into a run, and obviously the regime deeply resents that, any
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independentjournalism the regime deeply resents that, any independent journalism they try to portray— independent journalism they try to portray as government—sponsored propaganda by preserving the space for those _ propaganda by preserving the space for those services to provide a truly— for those services to provide a truly independent picture of what is happening into the country i think it's a _ happening into the country i think it's a really— happening into the country i think it's a really important factor. i will it's a really important factor. will give it's a really important factor. i will give the last word to you. what is the hope of the people? the resilience _ is the hope of the people? the resilience of the _ is the hope of the people? tie: resilience of the woman, the youth, the minority groups are showing, it will be a long journey but with the bravery of the iranian people, there will be hope, yes.— the hollywood writers' and actors' strike continues and could leave some rather blank schedules next year given the disruption it is causing. we'll talk to a british stuntman impacted in a moment. the strike is led by two american unions, the writers guild of america, and the screen actors guild, which takes in the american federation of tv and radio artists, their demands are complex, but boil down to the idea that the new worlds of streaming
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and ai mean that artists are getting systematically exploited, we have heard word of rumours circulating through the city. apparently you have lost a rather talkative cargo pilot. but their strike is freezing our industry, too. in the uk, film alone employs 86,000 people in 2022. we made £214 billion from tourism, thanks, in part, to harry potter, james bond, downton abbey and the rest. and the film and tv sector directly generated £12.6 billion to the economy. a huge chunk of that is america's £6 billion of inward investment in uk film and tv. why? jk rowling kicked it off by insisting that the eight potter movies were filmed here. since then it has beenjoined by amazon's lord of the rings,
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a hatful of marvel and dc movies and shows, as well as star wars, mission: impossible, the crown and many more. we have the infrastructure, the actors, the sets and the skills, but when hollywood freezes, so do we. joining me in the studio to talk about the impact on the ground is an award—winning stunt performer known for star wars, game of thrones and the fast and furious. john macdonald, welcome to newsnight. what are you doing? anything that involves action _ what are you doing? anything that involves action on _ what are you doing? anything that involves action on screen. - what are you doing? anything that involves action on screen. in i what are you doing? anything that involves action on screen. in a i involves action on screen. in a large motion picture that could be everything from choreographing fights to teaching the actors, shooting the fires and presenting those, car chases, horse riding, anything and everything with action stories in it. i anything and everything with action stories in it. .. anything and everything with action stories in it— stories in it. i think we are going to see some _ stories in it. i think we are going to see some of— stories in it. i think we are going to see some of your _ stories in it. i think we are going to see some of your work - stories in it. i think we are going to see some of your work here. | stories in it. i think we are going i to see some of your work here. how is this affecting you? how is this strike in the american system affecting you here? latte strike in the american system affecting you here?— strike in the american system affecting you here? we are not on track but because _ affecting you here? we are not on track but because we _ affecting you here? we are not on track but because we work - affecting you here? we are not on track but because we work on i affecting you here? we are not on track but because we work on film and anyone in sag is not right,
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anyone over here who were sent home has been on out of work since the strike started, they have started spit building that it might be next year and one of the concerns is that even if the sag members get a fair contract which we hope they do, those will not be reflected in our contracts, we have to hope that that comes over here and we get that as well. ~ . . comes over here and we get that as well. ~ . , , , well. we are seeing problems financially _ well. we are seeing problems financially for _ well. we are seeing problems financially for many _ well. we are seeing problems financially for many of - well. we are seeing problems financially for many of your i financially for many of your colleagues?— financially for many of your colleatues? . ., , ., . colleagues? we have seen more and more getting — colleagues? we have seen more and more getting stripped _ colleagues? we have seen more and more getting stripped away. - colleagues? we have seen more and i more getting stripped away. nowadays being a stuntman you're partly a performer but also a contract lawyer. every singlejob performer but also a contract lawyer. every single job you seem to be making sure that we don't get these different things carrying a
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because streaming services have changed the game, the contracts are from the old world. iloathed changed the game, the contracts are from the old world.— from the old world. what you want, what are you _ from the old world. what you want, what are you after? _ from the old world. what you want, what are you after? government i what are you after? government su ort i what are you after? government support i suppose _ what are you after? government support i suppose after - what are you after? government i support i suppose after lockdown, people need to keep their homes and that their skills up to date which would be useful but ultimately we want them to go down for the streaming services to go to the negotiating table and... like an access streaming pay and also things like your likeness on artificial intelligence. we need regulation regarding ai, and supporting artists, we want as many human beings involved in telling the story so that legislation is important, we just need the distribution rights, we want that to give fair play to creatives. .. we want that to give fair play to creatives. ,. , ., we want that to give fair play to creatives. ~' , ., ., , ., ,., creatives. like you for sharing some of our creatives. like you for sharing some of your work. _ creatives. like you for sharing some of your work, john _ creatives. like you for sharing some of your work, john macdonald. i creatives. like you for sharing some of your work, john macdonald. -- i of your work, john macdonald. —— thank you for. that's all from us tonight.
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kirsty�*s back on monday. till then, have a great weekend.

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