tv The Context BBC News September 20, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm BST
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the briitsh prime minster announces a series of changes to climate targets — but is he making it more achieveable and affordable or has he just made net zero by 2050 even less likely to happen. also on the programme. king charles speaks movingly about his mother's ties to france, as he begins a three day state visit to the country. and a survey conducted by survation reveals many teenage girls say they experience sexual harassment in their day—to—day lives and do not feel safe on the street alone. to unpack this all with me is my panel, tom peck, political cartoonist at the independent and rina shah, political strategist and commentator — former adviser republican congress.
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helotes both of you we will talk to you by all of the big stories have been talking to seen today. the uk prime minister rishi sunak has announced a major u—turn on efforts to tackle the climate crisis — saying he wants to adopt a more �*realistic approach' to meeting net—zero by 2050 with what he called a pragmatic approach which eases the burden on british people. among measures he's announced... he's delaying the ban on the sale of petrol and diesel cars until 2035 instead of 2030. the scrapping of gas boilers, to be replaced by heat pumps will also be delayed until 2035. but he says he remains commited to reaching net zero by 2050 — meaning the uk would no longer add to the total amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. here's rishi sunak making the announcement:
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the debate about how we get to net zero has thrown up a range of worrying proposals, and today i want to confirm that under this government they will never happen. the proposal for government to interfere in how many passengers you can have in your car, i've scrapped it. the proposal that we should force you to have seven different bins in your home, i've scrapped it. the proposal to make you change your diet and harm british farmers by taxing meat or to create new taxes to discourage flying or going on holiday, i've scrapped those too. and nor will we ban new oil and gas in the north sea, which would simply leave us reliant on expensive imported energy from foreign dictators like putin. we will never impose these unnecessary and heavy handed measures on you, the british people, but we will still meet our international commitments and hit net zero by 2050.
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and if we're going to change politics in the way i'm talking about, we can never allow carbon budgets to be set in the same way again. joining me now is neil thorns. he's director of advocacy for the catholic agency for overseas development, cafod. hello to you and thank you for joining us. i think it is fair to say organisation deals in a lot of these countries where the impact of climate change is really being felt. in that context, what do you make too rishi sunak�*s announcement today? i too rishi sunak's announcement toda ? ~ , , today? i think it is hugely disappointing. _ today? i think it is hugely disappointing. i— today? i think it is hugely disappointing. ithink- today? i think it is hugely disappointing. i think for| today? i think it is hugely . disappointing. i think for lots today? i think it is hugely - disappointing. i think for lots of reasons, firstly, we have seen in east africa, the worst drought in a0 years. in pakistan floods washing away peoples likelihoods and vibes. we have seen the hottest year recorded. the hottest month recorded. the hottest month recorded. i could go on. people are suffering from the climate to current races. frankly, with the
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prime minister has them today, is a huge distraction actually. —— climate crisis. he announced for example, you played those proposals, that would never come in. and actually he is scaremongering people rather than actually giving the real facts about the fact of what we need his true leadership and we need true leadership to transform the uk's economy to make it better and true leadership to make the lives of the difference of the poorest communities who are suffering first and hardest because the uk, as a historic emitter, has caused the climate crisis.— climate crisis. what the prime minister would _ climate crisis. what the prime minister would say _ climate crisis. what the prime minister would say and - climate crisis. what the prime minister would say and what l climate crisis. what the prime l minister would say and what he indeed did say, is that actually, he is sticking and still committed to the net zero target of 2050, but he says that this will make it more achievable because it will make it more affordable for the british public to enact these policies. i think we have to be prickly, we really have to scrutinise with the prime exit. first of all policy was
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completely costed out by the committee on climate change. an independent committee put forth. so it was completely costed out. the second thing is, it is notjust about 2050. we know what all signed to say to us is the fact that missions have to be cut in half by 2030 so there is no point kicking this ball down the road because actually, that impacts our poor communities are ready. so it makes a situation in countries such as east africa and pakistan and other places where we work much harder because we of the submissions productions now. and actually, it makes it more costly for the uk and therefore for all of us in the uk, if you just kind of kick the can down the road because it's going to cost us more rather than dealing with it now. i wonder, in your organisation, i imagine you have quite close contact with people all over the world. have you had any reaction from any of your colleagues, people in the organisation that work with, today the reaction to what they think?
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yes. as a catholic agency, for example, we work with both leaders. so i had a message from the bishop in the north of kenya and actually really suffering from the climate crisis. and actually, they cannot believe that the uk is thinking of rolling back. they saw the uk is actually being one of the countries who was trying to make real progress on the climate crisis and be a leader in terms of the spaces. when you see, it not necessary the policies, specific policies, he would not comment on that because they are not necessarily close enough to it. they understand the meaning of it which feels like the uk is stepping out and it's basically leaving its international reputation in tatters. so when he goes to the un to proceed climate talks it's not really not able to influence positively look at could you previously. where we had an
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ambitious target, we are trying to meet that and we have a government who was taking these things seriously. i who was taking these things seriously-— who was taking these things seriousl . ., ~ ., , seriously. i would like at this oint to seriously. i would like at this point to bring _ seriously. i would like at this point to bring our— seriously. i would like at this point to bring our panelists. | tom peck. it's hard to remember an announcement like this which seems so quickly and universally criticise, notjust hearing the uk but globally. i wonder from your perspective, the timing of and what you think rishi sunak is trying to achieve, if you like? it’s achieve, if you like? it's completely _ achieve, if you like? it's completely mad - achieve, if you like? it's completely mad there's no doubt he was rushed — completely mad there's no doubt he was rushed into doing it today because — was rushed into doing it today because information was leaked overnight. but, this is like a flasher— overnight. but, this is like a flasher policy. this is a major announcement. this is in effect, the start of— announcement. this is in effect, the start of an _ announcement. this is in effect, the start of an election campaign. —— flagship — start of an election campaign. —— flagship policy posted if you watch the press — flagship policy posted if you watch the press conference you see a man who looks _ the press conference you see a man who looks like he is on the verge of tears _ who looks like he is on the verge of tears although he is about to resigh — tears although he is about to resign. this is a think that he will thihk_ resign. this is a think that he will think current election fortunes around~ — think current election fortunes around. when politicians do this kind around. when politicians do this kihd of— around. when politicians do this kind of thing it's like strobe
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lights, _ kind of thing it's like strobe lights, they are announcing free broadband or some big deal, where is actually— broadband or some big deal, where is actually being done, come to the lecterh_ actually being done, come to the lectern with so much heat on him, he has been _ lectern with so much heat on him, he has been pre—denounced by ford, and half of— has been pre—denounced by ford, and half of his— has been pre—denounced by ford, and half of his own party, the view of this government minister at the un at the _ this government minister at the un at the moment attending climate week and if they— at the moment attending climate week and if they have any sense, they have _ and if they have any sense, they have hit— and if they have any sense, they have hit in— and if they have any sense, they have hit in the tool it is so embarrassing for study of al gore standing — embarrassing for study of al gore standing outside in the street announcing the government that they are there _ announcing the government that they are there to represent. i don't see in any— are there to represent. i don't see in any way— are there to represent. i don't see in any way in — are there to represent. i don't see in any way in which he will turn his fortunes _ in any way in which he will turn his fortunes around. especially as you have _ fortunes around. especially as you have just — fortunes around. especially as you have just shown the promises in the previous— have just shown the promises in the previous panelists discuss this, but no taxes _ previous panelists discuss this, but no taxes on — previous panelists discuss this, but no taxes on meat, no taxes on flight, _ no taxes on meat, no taxes on flight, none of those things are really— flight, none of those things are really never knows that. if this is the thing — really never knows that. if this is the thing that will turn the tank around, — the thing that will turn the tank around, i— the thing that will turn the tank around, i don't think how possibly could've _ around, i don't think how possibly could've gone any worse for him. you mentioned al — could've gone any worse for him. ym. mentioned al gore there. perhaps we could just have a listen to al gore
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of course the former us vice president and climate campaigner. let's hear his reaction to the prime minister's speech. well, i have to say, first of all, i'm not a citizen of the united kingdom, and i will leave that up to the people who are citizens of the uk. but speaking from a global perspective, if i may, it's certainly shocking and disappointing, particularly at a time when the rest of the world is struggling to move in the right direction, to have a leader of the uk, which has been in recent years trying to provide a leadership role to turn back in the wrong direction again. this is for the people of the uk. i have heard from many friends in the uk, including many members of the conservative party, by the way, who have used the phrase utter disgust and contempt. and young people who feel really strongly about this, some have said they feel like they were stabbed in the back, but this is for the uk to sort out and i'm going to stay out of the political situation there.
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i wonder what your reaction is and whether you think the prime minister will find some support from the public, if he is saying he is taking away these measures which he believes may be unaffordable, unachievable for many british people. is he appealing to those people. is he appealing to those people and saying, all right, it's only five years, i am still committed to net zero in 2050. this will help us get there. i committed to net zero in 2050. this will help us get there.— will help us get there. i think when ou look will help us get there. i think when you look at — will help us get there. i think when you look at the _ will help us get there. i think when you look at the situation _ will help us get there. i think when you look at the situation you see i you look at the situation you see rishi _ you look at the situation you see rishi sunak— you look at the situation you see rishi sunak in _ you look at the situation you see rishi sunak in a _ you look at the situation you see rishi sunak in a tough _ you look at the situation you see rishi sunak in a tough position. i rishi sunak in a tough position. between — rishi sunak in a tough position. between a _ rishi sunak in a tough position. between a rock— rishi sunak in a tough position. between a rock and _ rishi sunak in a tough position. between a rock and a _ rishi sunak in a tough position. between a rock and a hard - rishi sunak in a tough position. i between a rock and a hard place, rishi sunak in a tough position. - between a rock and a hard place, in my opinion — between a rock and a hard place, in my opinion. look, _ between a rock and a hard place, in my opinion. look, my— between a rock and a hard place, in my opinion. look, my personal- my opinion. look, my personal sentiments— my opinion. look, my personal sentiments aside _ my opinion. look, my personal sentiments aside for— my opinion. look, my personal sentiments aside for a - my opinion. look, my personal. sentiments aside for a moment, i think— sentiments aside for a moment, i think on— sentiments aside for a moment, i think on one _ sentiments aside for a moment, i think on one level, _ sentiments aside for a moment, i think on one level, but— sentiments aside for a moment, i think on one level, but he - sentiments aside for a moment, i think on one level, but he is- think on one level, but he is trained _ think on one level, but he is trained to— think on one level, but he is trained to do— think on one level, but he is trained to do in— think on one level, but he is trained to do in appealing i think on one level, but he isj trained to do in appealing to think on one level, but he is- trained to do in appealing to the common— trained to do in appealing to the common man _ trained to do in appealing to the common man saying, _ trained to do in appealing to the common man saying, i'm - trained to do in appealing to the . common man saying, i'm notching trained to do in appealing to the - common man saying, i'm notching to make _ common man saying, i'm notching to make your— common man saying, i'm notching to make your life — common man saying, i'm notching to make your life harder. _ common man saying, i'm notching to make your life harder. that - common man saying, i'm notching to make your life harder. that phrase, i make your life harder. that phrase, much _ make your life harder. that phrase, much and _ make your life harder. that phrase, much and to— make your life harder. that phrase, much and to put— make your life harder. that phrase, much and to put seven _ make your life harder. that phrase, much and to put seven different - make your life harder. that phrase, l much and to put seven different bins into your— much and to put seven different bins into your home, _ much and to put seven different bins into your home, and _ much and to put seven different bins into your home, and i— much and to put seven different bins into your home, and i try to- much and to put seven different bins into your home, and i try to limit- into your home, and i try to limit the number— into your home, and i try to limit the numberof— into your home, and i try to limit the number of passengers - into your home, and i try to limit the number of passengers who . into your home, and i try to limit. the number of passengers who are allowed _ the number of passengers who are allowed to— the number of passengers who are allowed to pick— the number of passengers who are allowed to pick up. _ the number of passengers who are allowed to pick up. this _ the number of passengers who are allowed to pick up. this is- allowed to pick up. this is think about— allowed to pick up. this is think about not— allowed to pick up. this is think about not trying _ allowed to pick up. this is think about not trying to _ allowed to pick up. this is think about not trying to shift - about not trying to shift your everyday _ about not trying to shift your everyday life. _ about not trying to shift your everyday life, drastically. . about not trying to shift your| everyday life, drastically. i'm trying —
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everyday life, drastically. i'm trying to _ everyday life, drastically. i'm trying to do _ everyday life, drastically. i'm trying to do this _ everyday life, drastically. i'm trying to do this measured i everyday life, drastically. i'm. trying to do this measured and everyday life, drastically. i'm- trying to do this measured and he's trying _ trying to do this measured and he's trying to— trying to do this measured and he's trying to "mental _ trying to do this measured and he's trying to "mental changes. - trying to do this measured and he's trying to "mental changes. by- trying to do this measured and he's trying to "mental changes. by not i trying to "mental changes. by not abandoning — trying to "mental changes. by not abandoning a _ trying to "mental changes. by not abandoning a commitment - trying to "mental changes. by not abandoning a commitment to - trying to "mental changes. by not| abandoning a commitment to that trying to "mental changes. by not - abandoning a commitment to that 2050 -oal, abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal. he _ abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal. he is _ abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal. he is showing _ abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal, he is showing that _ abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal, he is showing that he _ abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal, he is showing that he can- abandoning a commitment to that 2050 goal, he is showing that he can do- goal, he is showing that he can do this, _ goal, he is showing that he can do this, as _ goal, he is showing that he can do this, as he — goal, he is showing that he can do this, as he puts— goal, he is showing that he can do this, as he puts it, _ goal, he is showing that he can do this, as he puts it, sensibly. - this, as he puts it, sensibly. i think— this, as he puts it, sensibly. i think that _ this, as he puts it, sensibly. i think that actually _ this, as he puts it, sensibly. i think that actually has - this, as he puts it, sensibly. i think that actually has a - this, as he puts it, sensibly. i think that actually has a lot. this, as he puts it, sensibly. ij think that actually has a lot of appeal— think that actually has a lot of appeal amongst— think that actually has a lot of appeal amongst people - think that actually has a lot of appeal amongst people who l think that actually has a lot of- appeal amongst people who really believe _ appeal amongst people who really believe that — appeal amongst people who really believe that taking _ appeal amongst people who really believe that taking climate - appeal amongst people who really believe that taking climate actionl believe that taking climate action has to— believe that taking climate action has to be — believe that taking climate action has to be harsh. _ believe that taking climate action has to be harsh. it— believe that taking climate action has to be harsh. it has— believe that taking climate action has to be harsh. it has to - believe that taking climate action| has to be harsh. it has to be fast. and it _ has to be harsh. it has to be fast. and it has — has to be harsh. it has to be fast. and it has to— has to be harsh. it has to be fast. and it has to be _ has to be harsh. it has to be fast. and it has to be distinct. - has to be harsh. it has to be fast. and it has to be distinct. i'm - and it has to be distinct. i'm someone _ and it has to be distinct. i'm someone who— and it has to be distinct. i'm someone who knows - and it has to be distinct. i'm someone who knows that. and it has to be distinct. i'm i someone who knows that there and it has to be distinct. i'm - someone who knows that there are huge _ someone who knows that there are huge issues — someone who knows that there are huge issues caused _ someone who knows that there are huge issues caused by— someone who knows that there are huge issues caused by the - someone who knows that there are huge issues caused by the united l huge issues caused by the united kingdom — huge issues caused by the united kingdom and _ huge issues caused by the united kingdom and by— huge issues caused by the united kingdom and by the _ huge issues caused by the united kingdom and by the united - huge issues caused by the united. kingdom and by the united states. huge issues caused by the united - kingdom and by the united states. we have a _ kingdom and by the united states. we have a reat— kingdom and by the united states. we have a real responsibility— kingdom and by the united states. we have a real responsibility on _ have a real responsibility on the world _ have a real responsibility on the world stage _ have a real responsibility on the world stage when _ have a real responsibility on the world stage when it— have a real responsibility on the world stage when it comes - have a real responsibility on the world stage when it comes to i have a real responsibility on the - world stage when it comes to climate policies _ world stage when it comes to climate policies that — world stage when it comes to climate policies that is — world stage when it comes to climate policies. that is what _ world stage when it comes to climate policies. that is what you _ world stage when it comes to climate policies. that is what you hear- policies. that is what you hear al gore _ policies. that is what you hear al gore talking _ policies. that is what you hear al gore talking about. _ policies. that is what you hear al gore talking about. he _ policies. that is what you hear al gore talking about. he is- policies. that is what you hear al gore talking about. he is no- gore talking about. he is no stranger— gore talking about. he is no stranger to— gore talking about. he is no stranger to climate - gore talking about. he is no stranger to climate action . gore talking about. he is no| stranger to climate action of course, _ stranger to climate action of course, he _ stranger to climate action of course, he is— stranger to climate action of course, he is the _ stranger to climate action of course, he is the most - stranger to climate action of l course, he is the most fervent actavis — course, he is the most fervent actavis in _ course, he is the most fervent actavis in that _ course, he is the most fervent actavis in that regard, - course, he is the most fervent actavis in that regard, but - course, he is the most fervent actavis in that regard, but i i course, he is the most fervent l actavis in that regard, but i also think— actavis in that regard, but i also think there's _ actavis in that regard, but i also think there's a _ actavis in that regard, but i also think there's a bit _ actavis in that regard, but i also think there's a bit of _ actavis in that regard, but i also think there's a bit of out - actavis in that regard, but i also think there's a bit of out of - actavis in that regard, but i alsol think there's a bit of out of touch sentiments— think there's a bit of out of touch sentiments here _ think there's a bit of out of touch sentiments here when _ think there's a bit of out of touch sentiments here when we - think there's a bit of out of touch sentiments here when we talk i think there's a bit of out of touch . sentiments here when we talk about how our— sentiments here when we talk about how our activists _ sentiments here when we talk about how our activists talk _ sentiments here when we talk about how our activists talk about - sentiments here when we talk about how our activists talk about taking . how our activists talk about taking us towards — how our activists talk about taking us towards real— how our activists talk about taking us towards real achievable - how our activists talk about taking us towards real achievable goals l how our activists talk about taking . us towards real achievable goals and the reality_ us towards real achievable goals and the reality of— us towards real achievable goals and the reality of everyday— us towards real achievable goals and the reality of everyday life. - us towards real achievable goals and the reality of everyday life. i- us towards real achievable goals and the reality of everyday life. i see - the reality of everyday life. i see someone — the reality of everyday life. i see someone trying _ the reality of everyday life. i see someone trying to _ the reality of everyday life. i see someone trying to thread - the reality of everyday life. i see someone trying to thread that i the reality of everyday life. i see i someone trying to thread that neil, i someone trying to thread that neil,
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i don't _ someone trying to thread that neil, i don't know— someone trying to thread that neil, i don't know that _ someone trying to thread that neil, i don't know that this _ someone trying to thread that neil, i don't know that this is _ idon't know that this is a strategic— idon't know that this is a strategic error— i don't know that this is a strategic error yet, - i don't know that this is a strategic error yet, but . i don't know that this is a strategic error yet, but it| i don't know that this is a l strategic error yet, but it is disheartening _ strategic error yet, but it is disheartening for— strategic error yet, but it is disheartening for those - strategic error yet, but it is disheartening for those of. strategic error yet, but it is. disheartening for those of us strategic error yet, but it is- disheartening for those of us who believe _ disheartening for those of us who believe that — disheartening for those of us who believe that my _ disheartening for those of us who believe that my generation, - disheartening for those of us who believe that my generation, the i believe that my generation, the millennialist, _ believe that my generation, the millennialist, gen _ believe that my generation, the millennialist, gen 2 _ believe that my generation, the millennialist, gen 2 e, - believe that my generation, the millennialist, gen 2 e, just - believe that my generation, the . millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me, millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me. that — millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me. that we — millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me, that we will— millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me, that we will bear— millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me, that we will bear the - millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me, that we will bear the brunt. millennialist, gen 2 e, just behind me, that we will bear the brunt of| me, that we will bear the brunt of the hit _ me, that we will bear the brunt of the hit of— me, that we will bear the brunt of the hit of these _ me, that we will bear the brunt of the hit of these climate _ me, that we will bear the brunt of the hit of these climate policies . the hit of these climate policies that are — the hit of these climate policies that are misguided _ the hit of these climate policies that are misguided in _ the hit of these climate policies that are misguided in this - the hit of these climate policies - that are misguided in this moment. i must _ that are misguided in this moment. i must at _ that are misguided in this moment. i must at this— that are misguided in this moment. i must at this last _ that are misguided in this moment. i must at this last part _ that are misguided in this moment. i must at this last part here. - that are misguided in this moment. i must at this last part here. nikki - must at this last part here. nikki haley. _ must at this last part here. nikki haley. a — must at this last part here. nikki haley, a candidate _ must at this last part here. nikki haley, a candidate for— must at this last part here. nikki haley, a candidate for the - must at this last part here. nikki haley, a candidate for the us - haley, a candidate for the us presidency— haley, a candidate for the us presidency right— haley, a candidate for the us presidency right now, - haley, a candidate for the us presidency right now, she - haley, a candidate for the us| presidency right now, she has haley, a candidate for the us - presidency right now, she has stood on a debate — presidency right now, she has stood on a debate state _ presidency right now, she has stood on a debate state in _ presidency right now, she has stood on a debate state in blamed - presidency right now, she has stood on a debate state in blamed india i on a debate state in blamed india and china — on a debate state in blamed india and china i— on a debate state in blamed india and china. i don't _ on a debate state in blamed india and china. idon't think— on a debate state in blamed india and china. i don't think we - on a debate state in blamed india and china. i don't think we hear. and china. idon't think we hear about— and china. i don't think we hear about them _ and china. i don't think we hear about them enough. _ and china. i don't think we hear about them enough. so - and china. i don't think we hear about them enough. so that's l and china. i don't think we hear- about them enough. so that's what i want to— about them enough. so that's what i want to hear— about them enough. so that's what i want to hear more _ about them enough. so that's what i want to hear more about, _ about them enough. so that's what i want to hear more about, other- want to hear more about, other nations, — want to hear more about, other nations, beyond _ want to hear more about, other nations, beyond the _ want to hear more about, other nations, beyond the uk- want to hear more about, other nations, beyond the uk and - want to hear more about, other. nations, beyond the uk and beyond the us _ nations, beyond the uk and beyond the us what — nations, beyond the uk and beyond the us. what are _ nations, beyond the uk and beyond the us. what are their— nations, beyond the uk and beyond the us. what are their goals, - nations, beyond the uk and beyond the us. what are their goals, whatl the us. what are their goals, what can we _ the us. what are their goals, what can we hold — the us. what are their goals, what can we hold them _ the us. what are their goals, what can we hold them accountable - the us. what are their goals, what can we hold them accountable to l can we hold them accountable to as well _ can we hold them accountable to as well. , , . can we hold them accountable to as well. �* , ., ., can we hold them accountable to as well.�* , ., ., ., can we hold them accountable to as well. , , . ., ., ., can we hold them accountable to as well. , . ., ., ., ,., well. just a final word to you, neil on this, in — well. just a final word to you, neil on this. in your — well. just a final word to you, neil on this, in your dealings of - well. just a final word to you, neil on this, in your dealings of the - on this, in your dealings of the the world and as he talked about and described to our dealing with climate crisis, at the moment as we speak. how potentially, does something like this affect the british relationship with those countries, on a political effort? i think usually the uk's in a situation where it is looking to make trade deals. looking to make a
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new relationship, as we come out of europe and actually you do not make new relationships off of french's whilst you are essentially cutting back on the things which people are asking you to do. —— friendships. so the countries that are suffering from the climate crisis expected the uk to take its fair share and to do its leadership role as a historical matter in a birthplace of the industrial revolution. we got rich on it. and they are not going to be friendly to us when we have not met our climate finance targets, we are rolling back on the policies that we have done and frankly, we have a prime minister who is scaremongering and putting people in the wrong direction about where we need to go on the climate crisis.— on the climate crisis. directive advocacy for — on the climate crisis. directive advocacy for the _ on the climate crisis. directive advocacy for the catholic - on the climate crisis. directive i advocacy for the catholic agency on the climate crisis. directive - advocacy for the catholic agency for overseas development. we will be live in paris shortly but for the moment around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news, here in the uk. the parole board has confirmed that
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one of the killers of toddler james bulger has been granted a parole hearing. jon venables was jailed for eight years for the two—year—old's murder in 1993, and was later freed. but he was jailed again in 2017 for having child abuse images on his computer. a metropolitan police officer is to be charged with the murder of a 2a—year—old black man who was shot in south london last year. chris kaba died when he was hit by a bullet that went through the windscreen of the car he was driving. the police officer — who is due in court tomorrow — has not been named. british gymnastics has published a list of banned coaches and other members, consisting of 62 people, as part of its plan to reform the sport. those named have been given a time—limited ban or expelled from british gymnastics because of a safeguarding investigation, criminal conviction or conduct and disciplinary reasons. you're live with bbc news.
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king charles and queen camilla began their three—day state visit to france today. the royal couple will visit paris and bordeaux. the king walked down the champs—elysees with french president emmanuel macron, meeting some people on the street outside. tonight, they spend the evening gathering for a state dinner at the chateau de versailles. i believe it is well under way now. the king has spoken movingly about his mother's ties to france as he told of the "firm friendship" between the nations. in between ceremonies and dinners, the king will also have to adopt a more political stance, as he addresses the french senate tomorrow — before a one—to—one meeting with president macron. live now to my colleague lewis vaughanjones. who has been watching all of the developments today. has not quite
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been invited inside, not wearing the black tie. i'm a little bit disappointed about that to be honest but the speeches have now been made and the entente cordy alice in full force. . ~' ,. , and the entente cordy alice in full force. . ~ ,. , . and the entente cordy alice in full force. . ,, y., , . ., force. thank you very much for ”ointin force. thank you very much for pointing out — force. thank you very much for pointing out that _ force. thank you very much for pointing out that i _ force. thank you very much for pointing out that i did - force. thank you very much for pointing out that i did not - force. thank you very much for pointing out that i did not get i force. thank you very much for i pointing out that i did not get an invite to this one. it is now wrapping up inside. the celebrities have been eating their very fancy food indeed and we have, as you say, heard the speeches now. from macron and king charles. it is the first sentence in any real depth of some of the themes that are likely to play out over the next couple of days because of course this is just the end of day one of this state to visit. another day in paris i had and then onto bordeaux. first, let's take a little listen to of that speech. biking charles. history is not something — speech. biking charles. history is not something to _ speech. biking charles. history is not something to be _
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speech. biking charles. history is not something to be consigned, i not something to be consigned, gathering dust seldom to be revisited. rather history is something i live in man—made. 0ur identity— something i live in man—made. 0ur identity and — something i live in man—made. 0ur identity and sense of maintained by living _ identity and sense of maintained by living conditions to which we constantly add new chapters. a guide. — constantly add new chapters. a guide. not— constantly add new chapters. a guide, notjust to constantly add new chapters. a guide, not just to the constantly add new chapters. a guide, notjust to the past, but to the present. drawing timeless threads — the present. drawing timeless threads between generations. we heard in bits of his speech, some of the themes of unity, i suppose. those areas of common ground between the uk and france. things like sustainable development, he pointed to the defence of ukraine of course. there are issues that provided a bit more attention. a bit more division over recent years. we will try to get to some of those now. because we will speak to francoise joseph. get to some of those now. because we will speak to francoisejoseph. a former diplomat now teaching
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advisory for flints global. thank you for coming onto the programme. some of the areas of commonality are pretty obvious. that shared history, shared culture, shared sacrifice, but on some of the more testing issues, what you think of some of those dividing issues over the last couple of years? i those dividing issues over the last coople of years?— those dividing issues over the last couple of years? i think some of the issues are at — couple of years? i think some of the issues are at play — couple of years? i think some of the issues are at play at _ couple of years? i think some of the issues are at play at the moment. couple of years? i think some of the l issues are at play at the moment and the divine _ issues are at play at the moment and the divine considered an important time for— the divine considered an important time for the france british relationship in the sense that it is a sign _ relationship in the sense that it is a sign of— relationship in the sense that it is a sign of reconciliation between the two countries after years of disagreement over the post—brexit settlement. for example northern ireland, _ settlement. for example northern ireland, immigration, the covert measurement so a lot of these issues happen— measurement so a lot of these issues happen to _ measurement so a lot of these issues happen to vitamin the two countries apart— happen to vitamin the two countries apart -- _ happen to vitamin the two countries apart —— covid. and we have seen us slight _ apart —— covid. and we have seen us slight improvement of the past few months up with the current government. there was a summit between — government. there was a summit between rishi sunak and emmanuel macron— between rishi sunak and emmanuel macron earlier this year which is about— macron earlier this year which is about trying to have them a road map
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to the _ about trying to have them a road map to the future — about trying to have them a road map to the future of the two countries. and now— to the future of the two countries. and now with really about restoring symbolic, _ and now with really about restoring symbolic, effective to mention of the relationship which is important between _ the relationship which is important between continental uk. at these as part of— between continental uk. at these as part of the _ between continental uk. at these as part of the process of reconciliation that we are seeing. interesting. we can see, i suppose, with the uk is to train to achieve here. post—brexit, trying to strengthen those ties with big european countries. that is why this is was always intended to be the first state visit. also to germany as well. let's look at the french side, though. what are friends trying to get out of this? i think fritz is trying to maintain close ties with the uk and i think fritz is trying to maintain close ties with the ui_ close ties with the uk and that resents close ties with the uk and that presents the — close ties with the uk and that presents the opportunity - close ties with the uk and that presents the opportunity to . presents the opportunity to emphasise a continuity of the relationship because otherwise, what they are _ relationship because otherwise, what they are about is a sign of continuity and what king charles was talking _ continuity and what king charles was talking about during his speech. about _ talking about during his speech. about the importance of history. ——
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france _ about the importance of history. —— france so— about the importance of history. —— france so i— about the importance of history. —— france. so i think that is important. but also beyond the symbols. — important. but also beyond the symbols, i think there is an important element here to stress. two countries, to major european countries, — two countries, to major european countries, coming together after years— countries, coming together after years of— countries, coming together after years of disagreement. that sends a signal— years of disagreement. that sends a signal to— years of disagreement. that sends a signal to some of the competitors of both france and the uk, at a time of the war— both france and the uk, at a time of the war in— both france and the uk, at a time of the war in ukraine, tensions with china _ the war in ukraine, tensions with china i_ the war in ukraine, tensions with china. i think this is a sign of renewed _ china. i think this is a sign of renewed unity between the two countries. an important thing now. also the _ countries. an important thing now. also the issue of climate change. for example we know that king charles — for example we know that king charles cares deeply about it and france _ charles cares deeply about it and france and — charles cares deeply about it and france and the president of france as welt _ france and the president of france as well. france was hosting the cop 21, as well. france was hosting the cop 21. the _ as well. france was hosting the cop 21. the paris— as well. france was hosting the cop 21, the paris agreement was signed a few years _ 21, the paris agreement was signed a few years ago so there was a common interest— few years ago so there was a common interest to _ few years ago so there was a common interest to move forward on these kinds _ interest to move forward on these kinds of— interest to move forward on these kinds of issues. let interest to move forward on these kinds of issues.— interest to move forward on these kinds of issues. let me 'ust ask you about that issue. h kinds of issues. let me 'ust ask you about that issue. we _ kinds of issues. let me just ask you about that issue. we cannot - kinds of issues. let me just ask you about that issue. we cannot ignore | about that issue. we cannot ignore now. you have raised of course, climate change. you have an extension, i suppose, climate change. you have an
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extension, isuppose, of climate change. you have an extension, i suppose, of uk soft power out there on a global stage, talking about the importance of sustainable development and climate change. that does not seem to quite marry up with rishi sunak's announcement back home today. from a demonic point of view, how do you judge that? == demonic point of view, how do you judge that?— judge that? -- diplomatic. i think there's a question _ judge that? -- diplomatic. i think there's a question of _ judge that? -- diplomatic. i think there's a question of coherence i judge that? -- diplomatic. i think. there's a question of coherence here about— there's a question of coherence here about how— there's a question of coherence here about how the uk projects its intention on the world stage on climate — intention on the world stage on climate change. i think the objective of the uk government on this is— objective of the uk government on this is still— objective of the uk government on this is still quite clear in terms of making _ this is still quite clear in terms of making climate talks at the global— of making climate talks at the global table a success, something that i_ global table a success, something that i still— global table a success, something that i still think is a shared objective between france and the uk ithink— objective between france and the uk i think both countries are going to continue — i think both countries are going to continue pushing together for that. after all. _ continue pushing together for that. after all, we can look at france as well, _ after all, we can look at france as well, there — after all, we can look at france as well, there is some sort of pushback from public— well, there is some sort of pushback from public opinions from some politicians — from public opinions from some politicians from the spectrum about the very— politicians from the spectrum about the very intense pace of common
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policies — the very intense pace of common policies. this is notjust happening of uk _ policies. this is notjust happening of uk but — policies. this is notjust happening of uk but also in the continent of france _ of uk but also in the continent of france as— of uk but also in the continent of france as well.— france as well. interesting. i'm afraid we'll _ france as well. interesting. i'm afraid we'll have _ france as well. interesting. i'm afraid we'll have to _ france as well. interesting. i'm afraid we'll have to leave - france as well. interesting. i'm afraid we'll have to leave it - france as well. interesting. i'm i afraid we'll have to leave it there. thank you very much for coming onto the programme. i appreciate your thoughts and insight into diplomatic background. thank you very much for that. it has been a busy day so far, now drawing to an end as the state banquet is wrapping up here, but plenty more to come. not least first thing tomorrow morning, here, that address by king charles to the senate. it will be another made—for—tv moment i'm sure. senate. it will be another made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank ou, made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you. lewis _ made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you. lewis i'm — made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you, lewis i'm sure _ made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you, lewis i'm sure there _ made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you, lewis i'm sure there is _ made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you, lewis i'm sure there is time - made-for-tv moment i'm sure. thank you, lewis i'm sure there is time to i you, lewis i'm sure there is time to see if there's any leftover lobster. you very much to lewis. let's bring the panel back in. what would your
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illustration be for president macron and the king?— and the king? quite a difficult ruestion and the king? quite a difficult question for — and the king? quite a difficult question for me _ and the king? quite a difficult question for me to _ and the king? quite a difficult question for me to answer- and the king? quite a difficult - question for me to answer because i'm not a political cartoonist, i'm not a political cartoonist, imo political colonist i have never drawn a cartoon in my life. apologies for that. i have for media art lessons for school. i found apologies for that. i have for media art lessons for school. ifound it quite a reared watch because when the queen used to do these things, with a slightly strange idea of hereditary monarchy was a country that made it made sense because it is not a world leader and that was not desperate to meet her. she was one of the most respected people in the world and that sort of glossed over a very strange reality of an elected, highly political head of state, meeting an unelected hereditary, entirely constitutionally apolitical one. when you watch these guys, you just wonder, what it is they talk about.
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also, how long this role of a strange system can sustain itself when it's not penned by someone who is globally revered in the way that the late queen was. ii i is globally revered in the way that the late queen was.— the late queen was. if i could ask ou, the late queen was. if i could ask you. what — the late queen was. if i could ask you. what was — the late queen was. if i could ask you, what was the _ the late queen was. if i could ask you, what was the difference - you, what was the difference between say, a british prime minister going over to the states for a visit and a member of the monarchy, queen elizabeth argosy for many years and now the king. it elizabeth argosy for many years and now the king-— now the king. it 'ust felt more rand for now the king. it 'ust felt more grand fora — now the king. itjust felt more grand for a queen _ now the king. itjust felt more grand for a queen and - now the king. itjust felt more grand for a queen and but - now the king. itjust felt more grand for a queen and but it i now the king. itjust felt more grand for a queen and but it isj grand for a queen and but it is not so. grand for a queen and but it is not so we _ grand for a queen and but it is not so we see — grand for a queen and but it is not so. we see the fan for it is the same — so. we see the fan for it is the same 0n— so. we see the fan for it is the same. 0n the side of the pond detracted _ same. 0n the side of the pond detracted treat them equally. but again— detracted treat them equally. but again it _ detracted treat them equally. but again it is — detracted treat them equally. but again it is a situation in which you have _ again it is a situation in which you have to _ again it is a situation in which you have to look— again it is a situation in which you have to look at what i saw this morning — have to look at what i saw this morning when i woke up here in washington, dc, isaw morning when i woke up here in washington, dc, i saw prince william's— washington, dc, i saw prince william's visiting new york city touching — william's visiting new york city touching wildlife and getting his feet wet. literally. in eco—and climate — feet wet. literally. in eco—and climate talks and what it means to
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keep wildlife alive. i thought that was very— keep wildlife alive. i thought that was very interesting to see prince william _ was very interesting to see prince william welcome with such a reception and much to do about that. so again— reception and much to do about that. so again not— reception and much to do about that. so again not a visitor to the white house _ so again not a visitor to the white house but — so again not a visitor to the white house, but in new york and people were really— house, but in new york and people were really interested. i rgrill house, but in new york and people were really interested.— were really interested. i will have to cut you — were really interested. i will have to cut you off _ were really interested. i will have to cut you off but _ were really interested. i will have to cut you off but we _ were really interested. i will have to cut you off but we will be - to cut you off but we will be talking to you again after this. back after a short break. wednesday a wet and windy day starting off across north—west where we had a gust of wind at 70 mph we also saw some very heavy rain over the space of 306i was 133 mm file. at the chunk of the september out reach. so far this month we've actually had 226 mm of rain so it has already been a wettest september than average. of course more of septemberjust around the corner. the same area of low pressure that brought all of us but and windy weather conditions stays to the north of the uk. 0ver stays to the north of the uk. over
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the next couple of days. certainly, windy at the moment with the rain in scotland, the rain began to slowly pulling away from you think and south east england. what follows essentially for england and wales assist day of sunny spells and showers, howeverthe assist day of sunny spells and showers, however the low pressure will continue to bring strong winds to scotland and northern ireland. in fact, notjust windy, this band of wrinkle push and space are forced to the rain returns to the central lowlands and to northern ireland after a sunny start. for england and wales, showers from giggling into the afternoon. i think across parts of business office england, some of the charmers will merge together to give some really, intense downpours. could be prolonged as well. temperatures close to average, relabel stop 15—19 c. 0nto friday, the same story, the low purchase so therefore north of scotland. the strong north—westerly winds bringing frequent showers to the north and western side of uk. it's the afternoon, showers popping up at the east as well. some could be heavy, again with an odd rumble of thunder into temperatures not really changing too much about 15—18 c.
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feeling cool in the north. giving the strong winds. saturday, another change, a rigid high pressure building into his next weather system, what this means, setting the action is going to be an ok day. 0k, action is going to be an ok day. 0k, a few showers from over scotland but most of us will have a finance sunny morning. make the most about this cloud will tend to build in and certainly into the afternoon we will start to see some brain arriving in northern ireland and perhaps into question scotland for support of the sorts the end of the day. overall, saturday looking 0k. by sunday, the low pressure in the lenti just nudges a bit closer, we have another band of re—moving in to the west, so it does turn quite windy and increasingly unsettled with rain and showers around. i will probably stay with us as well into the early part of next week.
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hello, i'm sarah campbell. you're watching the context on bbc news. in the uk, there's been another fall in inflation, but how will it impact interest rates? there's been an unexpected fall in the rate of inflation, which measures how prices change over time. inflation stood at 6.7% in august, down from 6.8% injuly. the chancellor says it shows the government's plan is working,
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but he accepted inflation is still too high. labour said today's drop isn't enough. for more, i spoke with ana desmond, assistant economist at ulster university economic policy centre. is it enough is the question. the 0ecd is still predicting that uk inflation across the year will be the highest of the g7 economies. and still that's a persistent problem that we've seen in terms of some of the key areas underpinning this. heightened inflation in recent months. months was core inflation and service inflation, which we actually saw ease again today, which might influence the bank of england's interest rate decision tomorrow. but but whether things are working over at the end of the next into the next few months and over the next year, still to be seen. and there's plenty of criticism out there. so, as you're saying that it was it was a surprise.
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