i think you are arguing... the case? i think you are arguing... i'm asking — the case? i think you are arguing... i'm asking for— the case? i think you are arguing... i'm asking for evidence. _ the case? i think you are arguing... i'm asking for evidence. this - the case? i think you are arguing... i'm asking for evidence. this is - the case? i think you are arguing... i'm asking for evidence. this is the | i'm asking for evidence. this is the labour party _ i'm asking for evidence. this is the labour party position _ i'm asking for evidence. this is the labour party position as _ i'm asking for evidence. this is the labour party position as well. - i'm asking for evidence. this is the labour party position as well. you | labour party position as well. you argue the soul way to protect borders is to have an efficient system waving people in, processing claims quickly and letting them get on with life. you claims quickly and letting them get on with life. ., ., �* claims quickly and letting them get on with life-— on with life. you wouldn't have --eole on with life. you wouldn't have peeple lounging _ on with life. you wouldn't have people lounging around - on with life. you wouldn't have people lounging around in - on with life. you wouldn't have l people lounging around in hotels on with life. you wouldn't have - people lounging around in hotels on benefits costing taxpayers £8 million a day. i benefits costing taxpayers £8 million a day.— benefits costing taxpayers £8 million a day. i don't think you should have _ million a day. i don't think you should have people _ million a day. i don't think you should have people in - million a day. i don't think you should have people in hotels. million a day. i don't think you i should have people in hotels and million a day. i don't think you - should have people in hotels and i expect to close them soon. but i do not believe that if you allow people to come into the uk and work immediately, the labour party position... the majority of these people are economic migrants, that that will make the problem better. it will make it significantly worse because you are creating even more pull factors to the uk. the vast majority, in fact everyone coming across in small boats have passed through multiple safe countries. they could have settled in france

with their well—functioning asylum system. they've chosen to come to the uk so any additional pull factor like the ability to work a swiftly or to work in the black market, as we've heard, will only make the problem worse. you need a robust system. we are doing that. please let me ask — system. we are doing that. please let me ask a _ system. we are doing that. please let me ask a question. _ system. we are doing that. please let me ask a question. i _ system. we are doing that. please let me ask a question. i feel - system. we are doing that. please let me ask a question. i feel like i let me ask a question. i feel like you may be talking out the time. it is true you have no idea whether the rwanda scheme would put people off coming. there is no evidence that it would have a deterrent effect. we have the would have a deterrent effect. , have the evidence from australia, where a similar system did succeed. you can see in other things the government has done that deterrence works. the albania agreement we reached at the end of last year, that has seen a 92% reduction people coming to the uk.— coming to the uk. absolutely true. and a critical— coming to the uk. absolutely true. and a critical factor— coming to the uk. absolutely true. and a critical factor is _ coming to the uk. absolutely true. and a critical factor is that - coming to the uk. absolutely true. and a critical factor is that they - and a critical factor is that they know they are likely to be removed and returned home and are now being

returned home within 48 was of arriving illegally in the uk. deterrence works. we've seen it in australia. ~ , , ., deterrence works. we've seen it in australia. ~ , australia. why did your boss right in a letter to _ australia. why did your boss right in a letter to the _ australia. why did your boss right in a letter to the home _ australia. why did your boss right in a letter to the home affairs - in a letter to the home affairs select committee at the start of the year, as the policy has not yet been implement it due to litigation it is not possible to have a clear basis for evaluating whether it is value for evaluating whether it is value for money and i understand it is not possible for the government to accurately model the deterrent effect from day one, but we are confident the policy is the best chance of producing the best deterrent effect? i chance of producing the best deterrent effect?— chance of producing the best deterrent effect? . . deterrent effect? i agree with that, that sounds — deterrent effect? i agree with that, that sounds sensible. _ deterrent effect? i agree with that, that sounds sensible. the - deterrent effect? i agree with that, that sounds sensible. the home i that sounds sensible. the home secretary is _ that sounds sensible. the home secretary is saying _ that sounds sensible. the home secretary is saying there - that sounds sensible. the home secretary is saying there no - secretary is saying there no evidence. secretary is saying there no evidence-— secretary is saying there no evidence. ,, , �* ., evidence. she isn't saying that, she's saying — evidence. she isn't saying that, she's saying there's _ evidence. she isn't saying that, she's saying there's no -- - evidence. she isn't saying that, she's saying there's no -- she l she's saying there's no —— she saying it is a novel approach and that we are very confident that if somebody comes to the uk having paid a people smuggler thousands of pounds they are immediately detained and sent to rwanda that they and

fellow illegal migrants are much less likely to try again. i'm very confident that when we get flights off to rwanda, if i come back on your programme, that the deterrent effect will have happened and the numbers will be falling. if the numbers will be falling. if the sureme numbers will be falling. if the supreme court _ numbers will be falling. if the supreme court says - numbers will be falling. if the supreme court says that - numbers will be falling. if the supreme court says that it. numbers will be falling. if the supreme court says that it is | numbers will be falling. if the supreme court says that it is lawful and we will find out next month, could your next planned beat to leave the european convention of human rights?_ leave the european convention of human riuhts? . �*, ., . �* human rights? that's not what we're talkin: human rights? that's not what we're talking about — human rights? that's not what we're talking about at _ human rights? that's not what we're talking about at the _ human rights? that's not what we're talking about at the moment. - human rights? that's not what we're talking about at the moment. could| talking about at the moment. could it be a plan — talking about at the moment. could it be a plan if— talking about at the moment. could it be a plan if the _ talking about at the moment. could it be a plan if the supreme - talking about at the moment. could it be a plan if the supreme court doesn't come down on your side? we have doesn't come down on your side? , have said nothing is off the table, we aren't taking options away because we are determined to fix the problem and few things are more important than a country securing its own borders. we are about to go to the supreme court, we are very confident after legal arguments, we've won in the high court, the most seniorjudge in the court of appeal is went with us strongly and we've won on the most important argument, that a plan like this can be compatible with the refugee

convention? the legal argument is strong and we will see what the supreme court says. if they do support us then we will get the flights off to rwanda and the problem will be significantly reduced. . ~ , ., problem will be significantly reduced. . ~ ., problem will be significantly reduced. . ., , reduced. thank you for being with us. that's reduced. thank you for being with us- that's all _ reduced. thank you for being with us. that's all from _ reduced. thank you for being with us. that's all from us, _ reduced. thank you for being with us. that's all from us, thank - reduced. thank you for being with us. that's all from us, thank you | reduced. thank you for being with | us. that's all from us, thank you to our guests, thank you for our time. mark is here tomorrow. breaking news from around the world 24 breaking news from around the world 2a hours a day. this is bbc news.

we have put this to the tea m team but have not received a response. her claims come after an investigation by the sunday times allege they were sexually assaulted by russell brand between 2006—2013. the metropolitan police also says it's received a sexual assault allegation from 2003. brand has denied any wrongdoing. i was very, very promiscuous. now, during that time of— promiscuity, the relationships i had were absolutely always consensual. this is the first time that brand has been accused of sexual misconduct and then heard discussing it. the bbc is looking at these latest claims as part of its review, but the corporation is facing even more serious questions about brand's time at the bbc and what he was allowed to say and do on airfor so long. nomia iqbal, bbc news, los angeles. and the bbc has received a statement from russell brand's former

co—presenterm matt morgan. here's nomia iqbal with the details. we received this e—mail from matt morgan, and it's a long statement. in it, he says, "i stopped working with russell brand several years ago." he says during the time that he worked with him, he was not aware of any allegations of serious sexual misconduct against him. i'll read another part of the statement verbatim — he says, "i was not aware until now of the nature of this encounter," that we are reporting. "i express my regrets now, looking back at the impact of the show, and this is a further example. the recent coverage has been very distressing to read, and i reiterate my absolute condemnation of any form of mistreatment of women." that's the statement we've received a short while ago from matt morgan, who was the co—presenter alongside russell brand on that show that we've been reporting on. in addition, we put olivia's allegations to russell brand, but have not received a response.

the latest claims follow an investigation by the sunday times and channel 4's dispatches programme, in which four women allege they were sexually assaulted by russell brand between 2006 and 2013. the metropolitan police also says it's received a sexual assault allegation from 2003. brand has denied any wrongdoing. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the man accused of escaping from wandsworth prison two weeks ago has pleaded not guilty. daniel khalife, a 21—year—old former soldier, who also faces charges under the official secrets act and the terrorism act, appeared by video link at the old bailey. mr khalife allegedly escaped prison by strapping himself using bed sheets under a food delivery vehicle. a metropolitan police firearms officer charged with the murder of chris kaba, during a police stop in september last year, has been released on bail. the 24—year—old was fatally shot

through the window of the car he was driving in streatham hill, in south london. british prosecutors say five bulgarian nationals will be charged with spying for russia. they're due to appear in court in london next week, accused of conspiring to collect information of use to an enemy. the charges against the three men and two women cover a three—year period dating back to 2020. you're live with bbc news. a simmering row between canada and india escalated on thursday — over the murder of a sikh separatist leader in british columbia. canada's prime ministerjustin trudeau provoked anger earlier this week when he said the indian government may have been behind the killing. india has denied all allegations. 0ur diplomatic correspondent caroline hawley has the story. this is the scene of a brazen murder near vancouver,

a killing back injune that's now led to an escalating diplomatic row between allies — one with global consequences. police in canada have been investigating the crime for weeks, watched closely by the country's sikh community. today, the canadian leader at the un in new york, repeated his explosive allegation. there are credible reasons to believe that agents of the government of india were involved in the killing of a canadian on canadian soil. now, we call upon the government of india to engage with us, to move forward on getting to the truth of this matter. india says it's now suspending visa services for canadian citizens and canada is cutting back its presence in india, saying its diplomats in delhi have received threats on social media. hardeep singh nijjar was a sikh separatist leader. he'd publicly campaigned

for an independent homeland in india and the indian government labelled him a terrorist. earlier this week, the canadian high commissioner in delhi was summoned after canada said it was kicking out the most senior indian intelligence agent there. in a tit—for—tat expulsion, a canadian diplomat was asked to leave india. it's angrily denied any involvement in the killing, hitting out at canada over what it calls anti—india activity being allowed there. to talk about reputational issues and reputational damage, if there is one, any country that needs to look at this, i think it's canada and its growing reputation as a place, as a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists. at the g20 summit hosted by india earlier this month, justin trudeau met narendra modi. evident in their body language, the strain in relations. but they've now plunged to an unprecedented low, leaving other allies like britain watching on nervously, hoping they won't have to take sides. caroline hawley, bbc news.

india's upper house of parliament is debating a landmark legislation that would almost double the number of women in its lower chamber. the women's reservation bill was passed almost unanimously by the lower house on wednesday. just two votes were cast in dissent. the constitutional amendment would guarantee a third of all seats in the lok sabha for women. it needs to secure a two—thirds majority in the upper house to pass. live now to rohini pande, she is a professor of economics and director of the economic growth centre at yale university. if the law does pass, what kind of impact thank you very much for your time here on the bbc. if the law does pass, what kind of impact you foresee it having in india? so, hopefully the law will pass, but it will only be implemented, we anticipate that will be implemented no sooner than 2029, possibly later. but let's assume it is implemented.

much of the research we have which comes both from reservation for women in local governments in india, but also from other countries from across the world is that female politicians tend to represent women's policy preferences better, so as a result, we may likely see more bells and legislation that is supportive of women preferences which may range from issues like better policing for women safety in india to investments in public infrastructure that they favour. there's also evidence that their investments in women's that we see when women politicians are in place. so i think we should anticipate changes in policy and certainly we should also hopefully see the change in the types of debate that often happen in legislatures. we in the types of debate that often happen in legislatures.— in the types of debate that often happen in legislatures. we have seen attem ts to happen in legislatures. we have seen attempts to politically _ happen in legislatures. we have seen attempts to politically empower - attempts to politically empower women in the past, but the way the sentience political set is, especially in the rural parts of the country, the presence of proxies is a concern, isn't it? so while women

might be the political representative, the men in the family will still wield the power. do you think that this that that where he might still persist? i’m where he might still persist? i'm not sure where he might still persist? i“n not sure that that is correct. you have to realise that this is a narrative that is extremely convenient for men who don't want to give up power is to state that women will not wield the power. in fact, in all the evidence we have, when we see increases in female representation, and this is something that researchers have been able to study very well because of how it's been implemented, it's been implemented in a sense so we can do the equivalent of that kind of clinical trials he would see for medicine. reduce the impact. it is also the case that in a society that is reasonably patriarchal, it may be strategically the smart thing for women to do to give the appearance to have a man in charge and then actually change things from within. so i think i would first challenge the narrative that women are being puppets. that is not what we see in the data or any of the evidence. it

may happen in some cases but i think on average that is not the narrative. i also think it will hopefully be a harder thing to do when we think about national and state legislatures in the spotlight, and finally think we should remember that india has a long history of diagnostic politicians, if we are talking about a change between having the grandson of a criminal politician, male politician or having a grand daughter, she is perhaps less likely to have a criminal record at least. very briefl , criminal record at least. very briefly. we — criminal record at least. very briefly, we are _ criminal record at least. very briefly, we are running - criminal record at least. very briefly, we are running out i criminal record at least. veryj briefly, we are running out of criminal record at least. very briefly, we are running out of time to make it this can also lead to wider economic inequality in a country like india, then. i wider economic inequality in a country like india, then. i mean, that would _ country like india, then. i mean, that would be _ country like india, then. i mean, that would be to _ country like india, then. i mean, that would be to help. _ country like india, then. i mean, that would be to help. i - country like india, then. i mean, that would be to help. i think- country like india, then. i mean, l that would be to help. i think india has had a concerning decline in female participation of the last two decades, and some of it seems to do with issues like, for instance, child care but also safety in the workplace. and it is certainly hope that the kind of legislation that women may put in place may lead to direct benefits but also aspirations. i think there is a

change to aspiration. we appreciate our time change to aspiration. we appreciate your time and _ change to aspiration. we appreciate your time and your _ change to aspiration. we appreciate your time and your thoughts - change to aspiration. we appreciate your time and your thoughts here i change to aspiration. we appreciate| your time and your thoughts here on bbc. thank you so much for your time here on newsday. that is all for now on the show. to stay on with bbc news. hello. it's been a particularly wet week for many, autumnalfeeling. some of the wettest spots have seen 160mm of rain, the likes of the lake district and north wales. now, some of that moisture was wrapped around this deep area of low pressure which are the remnants of hurricane lee, so that's why we've had so much rain. but that low pressure is still influencing our weather — we've still got showers thrown up across its eastern flank here, as you can see, to southeastern parts, and then we're picking up a northerly wind as it's continuing itsjourney into the north sea, and that'll be a different feel to friday. near gale force winds in the north but a stronger wind ushering those showers further south and east. hopefully, those across the east of england clear away fairly soon and then we've got the showers

coming down from the north. no area exempt to catching a shower and temperatures similar to thursday, i think, but, with more breeze, it will feel cooler and there'll still be some lively showers with rumbles of thunder. but, actually, through the night on friday, the winds ease away, the showers also ease, the skies clear, and it really looks like a chilly night, chillier than thursday night into friday with a touch of frost potentially in the glens of scotland, which means a fine start to saturday morning. there might be just the odd pocket of mist underneath this ridge of high pressure, but it's reallyjust a brief window of drier weather because we already have this next low rolling in. this is the remnants of hurricane nigel, so more tropical air heading ourway. but, for the meantime, it's going to be chilly, as i say, to start saturday morning. and as we start saturday morning, we'll see some good spells of sunshine, just patchy, fair—weather cloud. but, as the day wears on, we will find more cloud piling in across the southwest

into northern ireland in particular and western scotland. and for northern ireland, actually, the latter part of the afternoon might bring a few splashes, the first splashes of rain from the next weather front. but ahead of that with sunshine and with light winds, it should feel quite pleasant at 16—17 celsius, and we're losing that northerly breeze because we're picking up instead a milder south—westerly wind but, with it, more wet, more rain and the tightly packed isobars indicate that the wind will be strengthening once again, so the likelihood is we will see further gales, particularly around the coast, and we will have further heavy rain. again, we could see similar totals — perhaps 50mm in the wetter spots, even more over the hills. but there's some uncertainty, but it does still look as if some southern and eastern parts of england might escape and stay dry with more cloud but warmer — 20—2i again because we're switching the wind direction. we are tapping into this south—westerly and starting with that high pressure close by but, eventually, on monday, that weather front does slip through across central and eastern areas. by then, perhaps not that much rain around it, but it will freshen things up again behind with showers — sunny spells and showers as we go through towards monday.

and potentially something a little bit more unsettled looking towards the west. but look at those temperatures — 19—21 celsius, feeling quite pleasant. and that's because we're still keeping this south—westerly. then there is some uncertainty as we go further ahead, then, into next week. low pressure looks more dominant, doesn't it? but there's always the chance that a ridge of high pressure mightjust start to build across southern areas, so it's more likely that we'll see the wetter and windier weather taking shape across northern and western parts but, even further south this stage, it does look set to stay very changeable but still quite warm — temperatures into the low 20s into next week here, and up into the high teens further north. as ever, there's more on the website and we'll keep you up—to—date here.

this is bbc news. we'll have the headlines at the top of the hour as newsday continues, straight after hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. when we talk about people with the power to change the world, we're usually thinking of political leaders or maybe corporate titans. but today, my guest is a philosopher who's harnessed the power of ideas to influence collective behaviour. australian peter singer has spent a lifetime wrestling with ethical

choices in the real world, most notably in the field of animal rights. five decades after first publishing his manifesto calling for animal liberation, has the movement he inspired become unstoppable? peter singer, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen, it's good to be with you again. it's great to be here and have you here with me, and partly the reason is because you've written an updated, rewritten version of that book you almost five decades ago, animal liberation.

it's called animal liberation now.