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in 2016 donald trump carried michigan with the support of the car workers. today it wasjoe biden who stood alongside them, the most pro union president, he said, in american history. but does he support their calls for a four day week, and how will he resolve a strike in its 11th day, that costing the us economy billions of dollars? we will get the thoughts on that and the impending government shutdown from our panel this evening in washingtonjoel rubin former advisor to the us state department and on this side, the conservative commentator and columnist tim montgomerie. its hsz, the high speed rail linke that weighs on rishi sunak. but if he scraps it where does that leave the plan for levelling up. leave the plan for levelling up? we'll hearfrom one engineer tonight who worked on the project who thinks phase 2 should be dropped. good evening. it is without precedent. a sitting us president joining a picket line. joe biden was in michigan today to visit the workers striking against the big 3 car companies. tomorrow donald trump will make the same visit to michigan. maybe a preview of what is to come,
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as they fight it out for the endorsement of a key union, in a very important swing state. notable that thejoe biden was accompanied today by the president of the united autoworkers shawn fain today. the uaw says they have no involvement in donald trump's visit tomorrow. the white house says their decision to hurry michigan was nothing to do with trump's planned visit. joe biden says he is the most pro union president in american history. you made a lot of sacrifices, you gave up a lot. and the companies were in trouble. now they're doing incredibly well and guess what? you should be doing incredibly well too. cheering. stick with it because you deserve the significant raise you need and other benefits. let's get back what we lost, 0k? cheering. joining us live from michigan is automotive industry analyst, john
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mcelroy. how has a presidents visit gone down on the picket lines they are? fit on the picket lines they are? of course the presidents getting overwhelming support, with open arms that he's been out support the union picketers. it's all over the media as well for the past what everyone is talking about in michigan tonight. i is talking about in michigan toniaht. ., ., , tonight. i mentioned in the outset there is such _ tonight. i mentioned in the outset there is such an _ tonight. i mentioned in the outset there is such an important - tonight. i mentioned in the outset there is such an important union l tonight. i mentioned in the outset| there is such an important union in michigan, which is a quick two key swing state in the election. was it significant that sean setting was alongside the president today? it sure was, works for both of them. even though the presidential election is not until next year it seems to be in full swing right now as you pointed out, president biden yearfor that and former as you pointed out, president biden year for that and former president donald trump your tomorrow. it works for the president because the uaw has told them they are not going to endorse joe has told them they are not going to endorsejoe biden unless he earns their support. endorsejoe biden unless he earns theirsupport. harry endorsejoe biden unless he earns their support. harry is today out or earning it. make no mistake, this
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also helps the president of the united auto workers union because look at the spotlight that it shown on the union and his strike. this is the glory days of the new labour movement in the united states. that's why they're both out there on the picket line.— the picket line. before we talk about what — the picket line. before we talk about what president - the picket line. before we talk about what president biden i the picket line. before we talk - about what president biden supports tell us what the demands of the union is and how the car companies have reacted to it.— have reacted to it. there is a long list of union _ have reacted to it. there is a long list of union demands. seems - have reacted to it. there is a long list of union demands. seems to l have reacted to it. there is a long l list of union demands. seems to be coming down to three critical points, substantial days wages increased. they also want cost adjustments for inflation added. and they want to see that there is some sort of protection for workers jobs as we go through this transition to electric vehicles. there's a lot of other demands that if sean is not talking about now he wanted a four day work week, 32 hours a week, he wanted full pensions restored. he wanted full pensions restored. he wanted something akin to what they used to call the jobs bank where it
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of workers faced any kind of layout they still get paid for essentially not doing a lot. but those things about being talked about right now. it's the prior three points that seem to be the critical point of negotiation. seem to be the critical point of negotiation-— seem to be the critical point of neuotiation. ~ . ., , negotiation. what about the visit itself was mad _ negotiation. what about the visit itself was mad as _ negotiation. what about the visit itself was mad as i _ negotiation. what about the visit itself was mad as i understand i negotiation. what about the visit itself was mad as i understand it| itself was mad as i understand it last week the white house pulled some of its advisers from the negotiations or being seem to be around negotiations in michigan and very quickly announced thatjoe biden was on his way. was it always in the planning or do you think they saw what was on donald trumps calendar and they reacted? it seems to be a very — calendar and they reacted? it seems to be a very fluid _ calendar and they reacted? it seems to be a very fluid situation _ calendar and they reacted? it seems to be a very fluid situation right - to be a very fluid situation right now. you're right, last week it was the president on, that it was off, now it's on again. he knew all along that donald trump was going to be coming here. ithink that donald trump was going to be coming here. i think what president biden is concerned with is what if the strike really gets out of hand, what if it goes on for months, what are tens of thousands of people that are tens of thousands of people that are thrown out of work? would if it
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puts a real dent in the recovery of the american economy? is that a real balancing act and showing support and earning their endorsement but at the same time maybe not being too close to it. i think the fear that donald trump would get all the headlines tip the scales and that's why we saw president biden in michigan today. 5m? why we saw president biden in michigan today.— why we saw president biden in michigan today. why we saw president biden in michiuan toda . ,, , ~ ., michigan today. stay with us like to net our michigan today. stay with us like to get our view _ michigan today. stay with us like to get our view of _ michigan today. stay with us like to get our view of the _ michigan today. stay with us like to get our view of the panel _ michigan today. stay with us like to get our view of the panel on - michigan today. stay with us like to get our view of the panel on this. . get our view of the panel on this. the president is walking a tight line here. what if it rolls out of control, that it's led to all the plants? there was a just the other day that they think a ten day strike would cost the us economy $5 billion. how does that speak to his wider campaign on biden almost? we 'ust wider campaign on biden almost? we just saw one strike include positively, that's the writers strike — positively, that's the writers strike it _ positively, that's the writers strike. it looks like that'sjohn. that's— strike. it looks like that'sjohn. that's a — strike. it looks like that'sjohn. that's a five month long strike in hollywood — that's a five month long strike in hollywood that did have an impact. it hollywood that did have an impact. it was _ hollywood that did have an impact. it was worth it if you talk to the strikers — it was worth it if you talk to the strikers i— it was worth it if you talk to the strikers. i think that's the same
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dynamic— strikers. i think that's the same dynamic here right now. joe biden is standing _ dynamic here right now. joe biden is standing on — dynamic here right now. joe biden is standing on the side of workers right— standing on the side of workers right now— standing on the side of workers right now in an economy that is very well compensating the most elite in our society— well compensating the most elite in our society and not taking care of wage _ our society and not taking care of wage earners and workers for the wages _ wage earners and workers for the wages of— wage earners and workers for the wages of knock on up over the last decade _ wages of knock on up over the last decade of— wages of knock on up over the last decade of all compared to the highest — decade of all compared to the highest paid ceos. i think biden see this as _ highest paid ceos. i think biden see this as a _ highest paid ceos. i think biden see this as a long—term game, potential for economy— this as a long—term game, potential for economy and workers but also in the near— for economy and workers but also in the near term he can really speak to that on— the near term he can really speak to that on the — the near term he can really speak to that on the campaign trail and said he stands — that on the campaign trail and said he stands with workers. while there may he _ he stands with workers. while there may be some economic impact this is the price. _ may be some economic impact this is the price, this is the struggle that it takes— the price, this is the struggle that it takes to — the price, this is the struggle that it takes to get to the next level for american workers.- for american workers. a lot of --eole for american workers. a lot of peeple would _ for american workers. a lot of people would agree _ for american workers. a lot of people would agree with - for american workers. a lot of people would agree with that, for american workers. a lot of. people would agree with that, it's about time our leaders stood with workers. do you have any problem with the leader standing on the picket line? i with the leader standing on the picket line?— with the leader standing on the icket line? ~ �* , ., ., ., picket line? i think it's good that there is competition _ picket line? i think it's good that there is competition not - picket line? i think it's good that there is competition notjust - picket line? i think it's good that there is competition notjust in l there is competition notjust in america — there is competition notjust in america but— there is competition notjust in america but in— there is competition notjust in america but in other— there is competition notjust in america but in other western. america but in other western countries _ america but in other western countries at _ america but in other western countries at the _ america but in other western countries at the moment - america but in other western countries at the moment full| america but in other western. countries at the moment full of the votes _ countries at the moment full of the votes of— countries at the moment full of the votes of working—class _ countries at the moment full of the votes of working—class people. - countries at the moment full of the | votes of working—class people. that didn't— votes of working—class people. that didn't used — votes of working—class people. that didn't used to — votes of working—class people. that didn't used to be _ votes of working—class people. that didn't used to be the _ votes of working—class people. that didn't used to be the case. - votes of working—class people. that didn't used to be the case. we're i didn't used to be the case. we're seeing _ didn't used to be the case. we're
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seeing a — didn't used to be the case. we're seeing a massive _ didn't used to be the case. we're seeing a massive switcheroo - didn't used to be the case. we're seeing a massive switcheroo in l seeing a massive switcheroo in western — seeing a massive switcheroo in western politics _ seeing a massive switcheroo in western politics where - seeing a massive switcheroo in - western politics where traditionally it's been— western politics where traditionally it's been right — western politics where traditionally it's been right wing, _ western politics where traditionally it's been right wing, republican, i it's been right wing, republican, conservative _ it's been right wing, republican, conservative parties _ it's been right wing, republican, conservative parties always i it's been right wing, republican, conservative parties always got i it's been right wing, republican, i conservative parties always got the votes _ conservative parties always got the votes of _ conservative parties always got the votes of richer— conservative parties always got the votes of richer people, _ conservative parties always got the| votes of richer people, democratic, lahour— votes of richer people, democratic, labour parties — votes of richer people, democratic, labour parties got _ votes of richer people, democratic, labour parties got the _ votes of richer people, democratic, labour parties got the vote - votes of richer people, democratic, labour parties got the vote of - votes of richer people, democratic, labour parties got the vote of poorl labour parties got the vote of poor or working—class— labour parties got the vote of poor or working—class people. - labour parties got the vote of poor or working—class people. but- or working—class people. but candidates _ or working—class people. but candidates like _ or working—class people. but candidates like boris - or working—class people. butl candidates like borisjohnson, candidates like boris johnson, donald — candidates like boris johnson, donald trump _ candidates like borisjohnson, donald trump have _ candidates like borisjohnson, donald trump have changed l candidates like borisjohnson, i donald trump have changed that. they've _ donald trump have changed that. they've driven _ donald trump have changed that. they've driven their _ donald trump have changed that. they've driven their tanks - donald trump have changed that. they've driven their tanks if - donald trump have changed that. they've driven their tanks if you l they've driven their tanks if you like onto — they've driven their tanks if you like onto the _ they've driven their tanks if you like onto the lawns, _ they've driven their tanks if you like onto the lawns, i— they've driven their tanks if you like onto the lawns, i should i they've driven their tanks if youl like onto the lawns, i should say electric— like onto the lawns, i should say electric cars _ like onto the lawns, i should say electric cars onto _ like onto the lawns, i should say electric cars onto the _ like onto the lawns, i should say electric cars onto the lawns i like onto the lawns, i should say electric cars onto the lawns of i like onto the lawns, i should say. electric cars onto the lawns of the opposition — electric cars onto the lawns of the opposition i_ electric cars onto the lawns of the opposition. ithink— electric cars onto the lawns of the opposition. i think we're - electric cars onto the lawns of the opposition. i think we're seeing i opposition. i think we're seeing while _ opposition. i think we're seeing while the — opposition. i think we're seeing while the democrats _ opposition. i think we're seeing while the democrats are - opposition. i think we're seeingl while the democrats are gaining opposition. i think we're seeing - while the democrats are gaining more upwardly— while the democrats are gaining more upwardly mobile — while the democrats are gaining more upwardly mobile voters _ while the democrats are gaining more upwardly mobile voters they - while the democrats are gaining more upwardly mobile voters they are - upwardly mobile voters they are worried — upwardly mobile voters they are worried about _ upwardly mobile voters they are worried about their— upwardly mobile voters they are worried about their support i upwardly mobile voters they are worried about their support of l worried about their support of unionis? — worried about their support of unionis? workers— worried about their support of unionis? workers and - worried about their support of unionis? workers and manuall worried about their support of - unionis? workers and manual workers in places— unionis? workers and manual workers in places like — unionis? workers and manual workers in places like michigan. _ unionis? workers and manual workers in places like michigan. i— unionis? workers and manual workers in places like michigan. ithink- in places like michigan. i think it's a _ in places like michigan. i think it's a healthier— in places like michigan. i think it's a healthier politics - in places like michigan. i think it's a healthier politics then i in places like michigan. i thinkl it's a healthier politics then say the blair- — it's a healthier politics then say the blair— clinton— it's a healthier politics then say the blair— clinton years - it's a healthier politics then say the blair— clinton years when . it's a healthier politics then say i the blair— clinton years when the fight _ the blair— clinton years when the fight was — the blair— clinton years when the fight was largelv_ the blair— clinton years when the fight was largely for— the blair— clinton years when the | fight was largely for middle—class voters _ fight was largely for middle—class voters for— fight was largely for middle—class voters for the _ fight was largely for middle—class voters for the they— fight was largely for middle—class voters for the they are _ fight was largely for middle—class voters for the they are now- fight was largely for middle—class i voters for the they are now getting a fight _ voters for the they are now getting a fight for— voters for the they are now getting a fight for the _ voters for the they are now getting a fight for the voters _ voters for the they are now getting a fight for the voters pockets - a fight for the voters pockets who probably— a fight for the voters pockets who probably aren't _ a fight for the voters pockets who probably aren't struggling - a fight for the voters pockets who probably aren't struggling more l a fight for the voters pockets who| probably aren't struggling more in need _ probably aren't struggling more in need more — probably aren't struggling more in need more attention _ probably aren't struggling more in need more attention from - need more attention from politicians _ need more attention from politicians.— need more attention from oliticians. . ., , politicians. that was the point, if ou look politicians. that was the point, if you look back — politicians. that was the point, if you look back in _ politicians. that was the point, if you look back in history - politicians. that was the point, if you look back in history to the i politicians. that was the point, if| you look back in history to the 26 election it was a fight for the
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so—called rust belt, the midwest states in the manufacturing base. there is now a very big transition for a lot of these workers as we move and transition to the green economy. how doesjoe biden balance at? they must�*ve been questions today about the sort of impact that the mood to electric cars is going to have on the combustion manufacturer will stop there a couple of things happening at the same time. , , couple of things happening at the same time-— same time. first is that factory towns as jim — same time. first is that factory towns as jim was _ same time. first is that factory towns as jim was describing, i same time. first is that factory i towns as jim was describing, the towns asjim was describing, the forgotten — towns asjim was describing, the forgotten working—class in america, that is— forgotten working—class in america, that is where donald trump made his most significant gains in 2016. under— most significant gains in 2016. under president biden he is really focused _ under president biden he is really focused on trying to reinvest in those — focused on trying to reinvest in those communities across the country with the _ those communities across the country with the bipartisan infrastructure bill, with the bipartisan infrastructure hill, $2 _ with the bipartisan infrastructure bill, $2 trillion of investment going _ bill, $2 trillion of investment going into working areas across the country— going into working areas across the country for— going into working areas across the country for that now it is trying to do is _ country for that now it is trying to do is take — country for that now it is trying to do is take this argument to the next level. which— do is take this argument to the next level, which is it's notjustjobs versus— level, which is it's notjustjobs versus economy anymore. how can we actually— versus economy anymore. how can we actually -- _ versus economy anymore. how can we actually —— jobs versus the environment, excuse me. how do we
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-et environment, excuse me. how do we get investment as a clean energy and have our— get investment as a clean energy and have our society prosper and protect 'obs have our society prosper and protect jobs at _ have our society prosper and protect jobs at the _ have our society prosper and protect jobs at the same time? this false argument — jobs at the same time? this false argument that you can't innovate and have electric vehicle did not vehicles _ have electric vehicle did not vehicles to protect jobs. have electric vehicle did not vehicles to protectjobs. that's what _ vehicles to protectjobs. that's what the — vehicles to protectjobs. that's what the republicans are pushing. biden— what the republicans are pushing. biden is— what the republicans are pushing. biden is making the argument very clearly— biden is making the argument very clearly that not only can you invest in these _ clearly that not only can you invest in these communities but you can do so in _ in these communities but you can do so in a _ in these communities but you can do so in a way— in these communities but you can do so in a way that protects our environment down the road and workers' — environment down the road and workers' rights in theirjobs. it's a lot— workers' rights in theirjobs. it's a lot at— workers' rights in theirjobs. it's a lot at once but he is putting money— a lot at once but he is putting money into this, not just a lot at once but he is putting money into this, notjust rhetoric. john, _ money into this, notjust rhetoric. john, i_ money into this, notjust rhetoric. john, i always used to say when i was a correspondent in paris that one in tenjobs in was a correspondent in paris that one in ten jobs in the automotive industry, and france were linked to the automotive industry. so what you had a strike and had an enormous knock on and to wider society. is that true in the midwest states? it is. it may not be one in ten but a certain one and eight or something
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like that. there is a tremendous ripple effect. in some communities where you have a large manufacturing whether it be the largest employer in town, the effect is far greater than that. if you lose or plan, this is what workers are worried about with the transition to electric, it could have a devastating impact on communities. we see that in the united states, notjust with electric cars but before that when international competition came in. and losing a plant can wipe out the tax base in a community. that affects the school, the police force, the fire department and the like. it has an enormous impact. john, thank you for coming on the programme and to get your thoughts. shut down on some of the assembly lines, the potential shutdown of federal government. meanwhile, the white house is warning of the dire consequences of a federal shutdown. there are five days left for congress to come up with something to keep government open. the house republicans remain as divided as they were last week, but the senate is trying to come up
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with stop gap that would at least fund the government for a few more weeks. but that will probably not include the full supplemental funding for ukraine because of the time constraints involved ? joe biden put out a video today on the social media platform x urging the republicans to get it done.
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live now to leigh ann caldwell, politcial correspondent at the washington post. no sissy you. you busy, i guess following the machinations of what's going on in the house are we any nearer to adil?— going on in the house are we any nearer to adil? we're busy. we're nowhere near _ nearer to adil? we're busy. we're nowhere near a _ nearer to adil? we're busy. we're nowhere near a deal. _ nearer to adil? we're busy. we're nowhere near a deal. -- - nearer to adil? we're busy. we're nowhere near a deal. -- nowhere| nearer to adil? we're busy. we're i nowhere near a deal. -- nowhere near nowhere near a deal. —— nowhere near a deal. things that almost lead to government shutdowns are disagreements between the two parties, republicans and democrats can't come to the same idea on how to fund the government. but this time it is completely a division between republicans themselves, especially in the house of representatives where house speaker kevin mccarthy is trying to push a government funding bill but just republicans. government funding bill butjust republicans. despite the fact there is a large portion of republicans, at least a dozen who don't want to fund the government on a short—term
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basis. so he is continuing to try to negotiate with people who are unlikely to ever come to the table. the senate is trying to save mccarthy, give him a lifeline by passing something that he could perhaps except for that but it's good to be up to mccarthy if he is going to take what the senate gives him. as of now he's unwilling to answer that question. five days away, we're nowhere closer to resolving what could lead to a government shutdown. i resolving what could lead to a government shutdown. i learned a new term today. — government shutdown. i learned a new term today. it's — government shutdown. i learned a new term today, it's called _ government shutdown. i learned a new term today, it's called jammed. - government shutdown. i learned a new term today, it's called jammed. that . term today, it's called jammed. that apparently this is the predicament kevin mccarthy finds himself in. you could have a scenario with chuck schumer gets a bill together in assented to get them over the line for a few weeks, he puts out to kevin mccarthy. does he put that on the floor was that if he does does he lose his speakership? yes. he lose his speakership? yes, that's the underlying _ he lose his speakership? yes, that's the underlying question _ he lose his speakership? yes, that's the underlying question throughoutl the underlying question throughout all of this. if mccarthy does something that gains the support that passes with democrats then there is a big question if he loses
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his speakership. that is what is driving mccarthy throughout this entire process. the fact that a conservative member who doesn't like mccarthy can bring up a motion to remove mccarthy from the speakership position for the course that would take a vote the majority of the house of representatives who are getting kind of in the weeds here. but it's a very real possibility for that mccarthy is operating under the fear of losing hisjob. so he's not really taking into consideration the whole of the government and the government shutdown when he is completely calculating and operating in a way to keep him in this position regardless of the outcome. and the outcome is very likely a government shutdown whereas you mentioned in your lead, president biden noted that troops won't get paid, no federal workers will get
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paid, no federal workers will get paid, lots of travel delays, there's a lot of ripple effect here if the government does shut down. ads, a lot of ripple effect here if the government does shut down. a course in the background _ government does shut down. a course in the background of _ government does shut down. a course in the background of all _ government does shut down. a course in the background of all of _ government does shut down. a course in the background of all of this - government does shut down. a course in the background of all of this is i in the background of all of this is the president, former president donald trump who is holding republican feet to the fire. particularly those who his key supporters don't give them everything that he wants them to hold that line because he wants them to defund what the justice department is doing on to defund what thejustice department is doing on his prosecution. they don't have that power but he is intent on creating the chaos that will undermine joe the chaos that will underminejoe biden. the chaos that will undermine joe biden. �* , the chaos that will undermine joe biden. �*, ., ., ., , the chaos that will undermine joe biden. �*, .., ., , �* biden. it's extraordinary. i'm inclined to — biden. it's extraordinary. i'm inclined to support _ biden. it's extraordinary. i'm inclined to support the i biden. it's extraordinary. i'm i inclined to support the republican side of— inclined to support the republican side of the divide in america and at the moment biden is on the back foot, _ the moment biden is on the back foot, questions over his health, questions — foot, questions over his health, questions about what hunter biden his son _ questions about what hunter biden his son is _ questions about what hunter biden his son is been up to. and yet the repuhlican— his son is been up to. and yet the republican capacity to shoot themselves in the foot is extraordinary. i wouldn't so much
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playing _ extraordinary. i wouldn't so much playing kevin mccarthy, i think he is trying _ playing kevin mccarthy, i think he is trying to— playing kevin mccarthy, i think he is trying to do the difficult job of keeping — is trying to do the difficult job of keeping his coalition together. it sees _ keeping his coalition together. it sees extremists in his own party who won't _ sees extremists in his own party who won't do _ sees extremists in his own party who won't do any— sees extremists in his own party who won't do any kind of compromise. they— won't do any kind of compromise. they are — won't do any kind of compromise. they are the real problem. and all the lesson— they are the real problem. and all the lesson show if you shutdown government it will be the republicans, the people who failed to compromise that will get the blame — to compromise that will get the blame from the american people. trump _ blame from the american people. trump really isn't helping his long—term prospects of being reelected by his behavior. i don't envy— reelected by his behavior. i don't envy kevin — reelected by his behavior. i don't envy kevin mccarthy, he seems to be the innocent — envy kevin mccarthy, he seems to be the innocent sort of person trying to broker— the innocent sort of person trying to broker a — the innocent sort of person trying to broker a deal but he's got people who wont— to broker a deal but he's got people who won't listen to him on his own side _ who won't listen to him on his own side. . ., ., , side. he could do it with the help ofthe side. he could do it with the help of the democrats _ side. he could do it with the help of the democrats are _ side. he could do it with the help of the democrats are that - side. he could do it with the help of the democrats are that will i of the democrats are that will probably be double the net political suicide. on the democrat side, that of the devil you know for the vcs not the speaker, who is? this of the devil you know for the vcs not the speaker, who is?- not the speaker, who is? this is history repeating _ not the speaker, who is? this is history repeating itself- not the speaker, who is? this is history repeating itself is - not the speaker, who is? this is history repeating itself is that i not the speaker, who is? this is| history repeating itself is that we saw history repeating itself is that we sanohn— history repeating itself is that we sanohn weiner_ history repeating itself is that we sanohn weiner bail— history repeating itself is that we sanohn weiner bail under- history repeating itself is that we sanohn weiner bail under the l history repeating itself is that we i sanohn weiner bail under the house for publicans — sanohn weiner bail under the house for publicans after— sanohn weiner bail under the house for publicans after as _ sanohn weiner bail under the house for publicans after as similar - sanohn weiner bail under the house for publicans after as similar web. i for publicans after as similar web. paul ryan — for publicans after as similar web. paul ryan as— for publicans after as similar web.
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paul ryan as well. _ for publicans after as similar web. paul ryan as well. this _ for publicans after as similar web. paul ryan as well. this is - for publicans after as similar web. paul ryan as well. this is kevin i paul ryan as well. this is kevin mccarthys _ paul ryan as well. this is kevin mccarthys fall. _ paul ryan as well. this is kevin mccarthys fall. i— paul ryan as well. this is kevin mccarthys fall. i disagree - paul ryan as well. this is kevin mccarthys fall. i disagree withl paul ryan as well. this is kevin i mccarthys fall. i disagree with my friend _ mccarthys fall. i disagree with my friend here — mccarthys fall. i disagree with my friend here, kevin _ mccarthys fall. i disagree with my friend here, kevin mccarthy- mccarthys fall. i disagree with my friend here, kevin mccarthy was l friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times— friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times to _ friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times to get — friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times to get to _ friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times to get to become _ friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times to get to become speaker. l friend here, kevin mccarthy was 14 times to get to become speaker. i| times to get to become speaker. i think— times to get to become speaker. i think he's— times to get to become speaker. i think he's willing _ times to get to become speaker. i think he's willing to _ times to get to become speaker. i think he's willing to lose - times to get to become speaker. i think he's willing to lose on - times to get to become speaker. i think he's willing to lose on the i think he's willing to lose on the floor— think he's willing to lose on the floor and — think he's willing to lose on the floor and send _ think he's willing to lose on the floor and send us— think he's willing to lose on the floor and send us into - think he's willing to lose on the floor and send us into a - think he's willing to lose on the i floor and send us into a shutdown in order— floor and send us into a shutdown in order to _ floor and send us into a shutdown in order to keep— floor and send us into a shutdown in order to keep his _ floor and send us into a shutdown in order to keep hisjob. _ floor and send us into a shutdown in order to keep hisjob. he _ floor and send us into a shutdown in order to keep hisjob. he could i order to keep hisjob. he could do the responsible _ order to keep hisjob. he could do the responsible thing _ order to keep hisjob. he could do the responsible thing and governl order to keep hisjob. he could do i the responsible thing and govern and support— the responsible thing and govern and support the _ the responsible thing and govern and support the actual— the responsible thing and govern and support the actual debt _ the responsible thing and govern and support the actual debt ceiling - the responsible thing and govern and support the actual debt ceiling bill i support the actual debt ceiling bill that was— support the actual debt ceiling bill that was signed _ support the actual debt ceiling bill that was signed a _ support the actual debt ceiling bill that was signed a few _ support the actual debt ceiling bill that was signed a few months i support the actual debt ceiling bill that was signed a few months agoj that was signed a few months ago to raise that _ that was signed a few months ago to raise that two — that was signed a few months ago to raise that two thirds _ that was signed a few months ago to raise that two thirds of _ that was signed a few months ago to raise that two thirds of publicans i raise that two thirds of publicans supported — raise that two thirds of publicans supported. he— raise that two thirds of publicans supported. he could _ raise that two thirds of publicans supported. he could find - raise that two thirds of publicans supported. he could find those l supported. he could find those moderate _ supported. he could find those moderate republicans - supported. he could find those moderate republicans and i supported. he could find those moderate republicans and joinj supported. he could find those i moderate republicans and join with democrats — moderate republicans and join with democrats but _ moderate republicans and join with democrats but is _ moderate republicans and join with democrats but is not. _ moderate republicans and join with democrats but is not. your- democrats but is not. your interesting _ democrats but is not. your interesting point, - democrats but is not. your. interesting point, republicans democrats but is not. your- interesting point, republicans are great _ interesting point, republicans are great are — interesting point, republicans are great are attacking _ interesting point, republicans are great are attacking on _ interesting point, republicans are great are attacking on a _ interesting point, republicans are great are attacking on a personall great are attacking on a personal basis _ great are attacking on a personal basis but — great are attacking on a personal basis but once _ great are attacking on a personal basis but once they _ great are attacking on a personal basis but once they have - great are attacking on a personal basis but once they have to i great are attacking on a personal. basis but once they have to govern that's— basis but once they have to govern that's when— basis but once they have to govern that's when it _ basis but once they have to govern that's when it all _ basis but once they have to govern that's when it all falls _ basis but once they have to govern that's when it all falls apart. - basis but once they have to govern that's when it all falls apart. i i that's when it all falls apart. i think— that's when it all falls apart. i think they're _ that's when it all falls apart. i think they're really _ that's when it all falls apart. i think they're really boxing, i that's when it all falls apart. i i think they're really boxing, the american — think they're really boxing, the american people _ think they're really boxing, the american people know- think they're really boxing, the american people know who's . think they're really boxing, thel american people know who's to think they're really boxing, the - american people know who's to blame and it's— american people know who's to blame and it's going — american people know who's to blame and it's going to— american people know who's to blame and it's going to cause _ american people know who's to blame and it's going to cause unnecessary. and it's going to cause unnecessary pain and _ and it's going to cause unnecessary pain and hardship for a _ and it's going to cause unnecessary pain and hardship for a lot - and it's going to cause unnecessary pain and hardship for a lot of- pain and hardship for a lot of people — pain and hardship for a lot of people just _ pain and hardship for a lot of people just to _ pain and hardship for a lot of people just to save - pain and hardship for a lot of people just to save kevin i pain and hardship for a lot of- people just to save kevin mccarthys skin. people 'ust to save kevin mccarthys skin. ., �* , ., people 'ust to save kevin mccarthys skin. . �*, . , skin. that's an interesting point. who does take _ skin. that's an interesting point. who does take the _ skin. that's an interesting point. who does take the blame i skin. that's an interesting point. who does take the blame for i skin. that's an interesting point. l who does take the blame for this? voters perceptive enough to blame what's going on in the republican caucus or ultimately doesn't fall
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president biden?— president biden? interesting . uestion president biden? interesting question because _ president biden? interesting question because americans| president biden? interesting i question because americans are president biden? interesting - question because americans are just really starting to tune in. there no reliable polling on where people stand. republicans i talked to are pretty confident, republicans who don't want to shutdown are confident that republicans are the ones who are going to get blamed in this. they are usually the ones who get blamed in government shutdowns and it's really interesting listening to kevin mccarthys messaging today talking to reporters, he is starting to try to shift blame to president biden. even though as we know president biden has nothing to do with this government shutdown at all. this is about congress, the republican party for that we will have to see who is blamed if this government really does shut down. it doesn't bode well for republicans historically and based on the dynamics now that this is a republican fight.— republican fight. quite extraordinary - republican fight. quite
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extraordinary how i republican fight. quite | extraordinary how many republican fight. quite - extraordinary how many times republican fight. quite _ extraordinary how many times i've done the story we seem to do it every six months. thank you for coming on the program. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. former cop26 president sir alok sharma says he will not stand at the next general election. the tory mp for reading west since 2010 made the announcement on x, formally known as twitter. he said it wasn't an easy decision and he will continue to support his conservative colleagues and champion causes such as climate action. water companies have been ordered to pay back £114 million to customers after missing key targets. it will be repaid through reduced bills. the regulator, ofwat, says firms across england and wales are "falling short" on performance measures around leakages, supply and reducing pollution. a hospital trust has blamed computer error for 21r—thousand letters not being sent to patients and their gps. newcastle hospitals has
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apologised for the issue, which dates back to 2018. many of the letters explained what should happen when patients were discharged. but a significant number were written by specialist clinics spelling out required care. breaking news before we move on, i was selling in the last hour that the canadians have a video of the killing of that seek separatist back in june, killing of that seek separatist back injune, which reporters at the washington post had seen which presumably is a key part of the evidence. in the last few minutes the indian foreigners minister has called on canada to produce the evidence we will look at all evidence, he says. but this is not as a hearing separatist this is not as a hearing separatist this is not a policy of the indian government. the indian foreign ministry saying they will look at all evidence canada puts forward but reiterating they were not to blame for that
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murder. we will keep following that story. we've been discussing their shutdown. with discussing michigan. at the centre of all these events of course is donald trump. not only is he demanding house republicans shut down the government unless they can force the justice department to drop the prosecutions against him, which they can't, he is also pressing them to impeachjoe biden. the first committee hearing will be on thursday. on top of that on truth social the former president's called for the execution of the outgoing chair of the joint chiefs, gen mark milley, for treason. he has promised that if he wins next years election he will order investigations into media outlets like nbc, who have dared to criticise him. and in south carolina yesterday he let rip. ...but you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than hitting a whale with your boat. there has only been — listen to this — one such whale killed off the coast of south carolina in the last 50 years. but on the other hand,
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their windmills are causing whales to die in numbers never seen before. nobody does anything about that. their washing up on shore i saw it this weekend, three of them came up. they wouldn't you wouldn't see it once a year. now they're coming up on a weekly basis. the windmills are driving them crazy. they're driving... they're driving the whales, i think a little batty. you know, the beauty was when i came here, everyone thought bush was going to win. and then they took a poll and they found out trump was up by about 50 points. everyone said, what's going on right here? they thought bush, because bush supposedly was a military person. great. you know what? he got us into the he got us into the middle east. how did that work out? right. but they all thought that bush might win. jeb. rememberjeb? he used, he is the word jeb. he didn't use the word bush. i said, you mean he's ashamed of the last name? and then they immediately started using the name bush. never forget it. i think the last time i looked it was george w bush that took the united states into iraq, notjeb
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bush was up a couple of weeks ago he confused biden and obama. this issue, there's a lot of focus on the president and his agent is cognitive ability. some of this stuff that trump is talking about is pure lunacy. conspiracy theories about windmills killing blue wails on the beaches of south carolina. when you look at the polls is stronger than ever. i look at the polls is stronger than ever. . . �* , look at the polls is stronger than ever. u, �* , , ~' look at the polls is stronger than ever. �* , , ~ ., ever. i can't help but think that donald trump _ ever. i can't help but think that donald trump right _ ever. i can't help but think that donald trump right now - ever. i can't help but think that donald trump right now has i ever. i can't help but think that - donald trump right now has scribbled eggs for brains. i don't know what's going on up there. this is a man who is under indictment. he has court proceedings facing him, he's in a competitive primary that while he is clearly winning he is taking a beating clearly winning he is taking a heating from the other candidates, they're attacking him nonstop and he's just saying things that are so unhinged, to the point of threatening the former chairman of thejoint chiefs of staff at threatening the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff at the death penalty. god bless. this is dangerous. this is violating the kinds of requirements that he also
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has to abide by in terms of not threatening witnesses for example. who knows if he tries to threaten millie from afar? that's what he does. i think people have to question why voters are still obsessed with him for that the only answer i've heard that makes any senseis answer i've heard that makes any sense is a cult figure. and when there is a cult leader it's impossible to disconnect for those who are really connected to and obsessed with that leader. it doesn't make any sense to the rest of us were not in the cult, but for those who are in the cult the crazier you get the crazier they become. unfortunately, right now that's where we're. the become. unfortunately, right now that's where we're.— become. unfortunately, right now that's where we're. the media always labels charge — that's where we're. the media always labels charge two _ that's where we're. the media always labels charge two trump _ labels charge two trump derangement syndrome and chasing the jump outrage, the lunatic tweet doesn't about anyone but him. do we have a responsibility to draw the sort of wider narrative from voters? there are serious questions about about his temperament and his capacity to do thejob. the
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his temperament and his capacity to do the 'ob. ., ., ., , do the job. the extraordinary thing lookin: in do the job. the extraordinary thing looking in from _ do the job. the extraordinary thing looking in from britain _ do the job. the extraordinary thing looking in from britain is _ do the job. the extraordinary thing looking in from britain is really? i looking in from britain is really? at least— looking in from britain is really? at least the two best people biden and drop— at least the two best people biden and drop that you can put forward? trump _ and drop that you can put forward? trump is _ and drop that you can put forward? trump is an— and drop that you can put forward? trump is an extreme but biden is clearly not — trump is an extreme but biden is clearly not up to the job anymore. he's old _ clearly not up to the job anymore. he's old and failing in front of us. america _ he's old and failing in front of us. america surely can do better than this _ america surely can do better than this it's — america surely can do better than this. it's bird bewildering the world — this. it's bird bewildering the world that these other two candidates. the second greatest country — candidates. the second greatest country on earth after the united kingdom — country on earth after the united kingdom can put forward. i think actually— kingdom can put forward. i think actually the most dangerous thing trump _ actually the most dangerous thing trump is — actually the most dangerous thing trump is said for his own political fortunes — trump is said for his own political fortunes recently is his position on abortion, — fortunes recently is his position on abortion, which he seems to have softened — abortion, which he seems to have softened i — abortion, which he seems to have softened. ., �* ~ ., ., , softened. i don't know what his osition softened. i don't know what his position is _ softened. i don't know what his position is on _ softened. i don't know what his position is on abortion. - softened. i don't know what his position is on abortion. that's l softened. i don't know what his i position is on abortion. that's the point is not debating a policy. americans, republicans often i've wondered — americans, republicans often i've wondered why they stood by trump despite _ wondered why they stood by trump despite all of his rogue positions. it's become slightly more pro force and that— it's become slightly more pro force and that could be the thing that upsets— and that could be the thing that upsets the evangelical right. we have to upsets the evangelical right. - have to take a quick break. do you
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stay with us. we will be right back. hello there. the day's heavy rain and showers will continue to ease away through this evening, and overnight it will turn a lot drier for many with lengthy, clearskies, lighterwinds, particularly across the northern half of the country. that'll make it turn quite chilly across some of the scottish glens. but it's all change to the south. we're looking at this system deepening as it's approaching ireland. this is storm agnes. now, this will start to throw up some cloud in towards southern and western areas as we move through the night and the wind will start to pick up here as well. so temperatures are on the rise here, in fact — the low to mid—teens here but a chillier night to come across the north. so storm agnes, then, likely to bring some impacts to western parts of the country on wednesday, with rain and gates. we could see severe gales around some of the irish sea coasts as this storm moves its way northwards, but it will be weakening as it continues to move northwards. by far, the biggest impacts will be across central and southern parts of ireland. but around irish sea coasts,
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like i mentioned, we could see 60 to 70 mile an hour gusts, maybe a bit more than that. north—west wales, pembrokeshire, north—west england and south—west scotland, favoured spots for some of the strongest gusts. heavy rain also spinning northwards with the strong winds as we move through the morning, into the afternoon, eventually pushing across into scotland. but much of central and certainly eastern and south—east england will avoid all the action and, in fact, stay largely dry. it will be breezy, but there'll be some sunshine. top temperatures, 22 degrees here, but further north and west, around the mid—teens, with the gates and the rain. the strong winds, the gates, the rain push northwards across scotland. storm agnes eventually exits the uk in towards the norwegian sea by the end of the night. but a fairly mild night to come. temperatures in double figures for most. so to thursday, then, we're in between weather systems. there are more ganging up on us as we head into friday and the weekend, generally affecting northern and western areas. but thursday actually doesn't look too bad. the winds still a feature, but not as strong as what we expect on wednesday.
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there'll be some good spells of sunshine around, but i think cloud will tend to build through the day and we'll start to see another frontal system pushing into the west. that'll bring rain to northern ireland, scotland, perhaps western england and wales by the end of the day. a little bit cooler, i think, across the board. 20 degrees at best in the south—east, mid—teens further north and west. and then like i mentioned, there will be further frontal systems moving into northern and western parts of the country. better chance of staying dry this weekend in the south.
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