good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. police are continuing to question a teenage boy about the fatal stabbing of a fifteen—year—old girl in croydon. as millions of households face another winter of high energy bills, the regulator ofgem tells bbc breakfast it will review standing a charges by the end of the year. a charges by the end of the year. a major nature study has found that one in six wildlife species in the uk is at risk of becoming extinct. manchester city are reminded what defeat tastes like again as they're knocked out of the league cup at newcastle, who now go onto face manchester united in the fourth round. did aliens really visit a primary school in south west wales in the 1970s? a new documentary aims to find out what really happened. after some windy and wet weather for

some of you yesterday, today it is dry and bright with one or two showers but heavy rain tonight, full details coming up. it's thursday the 28th of september. our main story. a murder investigation is continuing in south london after a 15—year—old girl was fatally stabbed on her way to school. a boy aged 17 was arrested shortly after the attack in croydon yesterday morning, and police say he may have known the victim. our reporter louisa pilbeam has the latest. behind these screens overnight, forensic experts search for evidence after a teenage girl was killed. stabbed in the neck on a busy street on her way to school. this bus had been full of schoolchildren at 8.30 yesterday morning on one of the main roads through the london borough of croydon. the bus driver and passers—by tried to save the 15—year—old. witnesses said there had been an argument with a boy who tried to give her or her friend flowers. the girl, who has not

been named by police, died before she could be taken to hospital. detectives say they believe she may have known her attacker. within 75 minutes of the incident happening, a 17—year—old boy was arrested in new addington. he remains in custody and will be questioned by detectives. we remain in the early stages of our investigation, however, based on what we know so far, we believe that we are not looking for anyone else in connection with this offence. the weapon used in the attack was described by witnesses as a long knife. sir mark rowley, head of the met police, visited the scene. old palace ofjohn whitgift, where the girl was a pupil in year 11, said everyone was deeply shocked by the senseless death of a much loved pupil, a feeling echoed by the local mp. i'm heartbroken that a child in my town has been killed on her way to school and i cannot imagine the grief that her family

will be going through at this time. overnight, people came to lay flowers and leave tributes in shock that such a crime could happen in their area in broad daylight. that was louisa pilbeam reporting. the time is three minutes past six, naga has details on a major uk report on nature across the country. wildlife charities say the uk is losing its most precious animals and plants at an alarming rate. their "state of nature" report claims more than 1,500 species are under threat from extinction with climate change, farming, and unsustainable fishing mainly to blame. 0ur science correspondent victoria gill has the details. a suburban hedgehog highway in constant use. just by making holes in fences, gardeners here in 0xfordshire

are giving urban hedgehogs a boost. it's really important that the gardens, which are such important green spaces for the hedgehogs, that they're all connected. so we've got a hole here that they come through and then they'll trundle through and they go all the way up through the garden to a hole on the other side that they can get through. so it's just a nice way of making sure that they can roam. but while hedgehog numbers in urban areas are stable, even showing signs of increasing, the picture for many uk species is of decline. uk wildlife is under pressure from habitat loss, pollution and climate change. almost 1500 species are threatened with extinction here, according to this report. that includes 13 seabird species, some of britain's most familiar mammals and many insects. but the latest evidence also provides a glimmer of hope, showing that targeted conservation efforts like the mission to make gardens more wildlife friendly can work. we need to try and look at ways that we can thrive alongside nature

and just try and roll that out from gardens and urban areas out into the wider countryside as well. an important way to bring wildlife back to the countryside is nature—friendly farming. here in the north pennines, this 400 acre farm has been split into smaller pastures. the herd here is moved into a new field every day. the idea is that it's similar to buffalo on the plains so they're moving every day. and we're the predators, we're moving the electric fence so we're keeping them moving. he's the wolf. the aim is to work with the land. the cattle fertilise the soil, and then each field is left for 60 days to restore itself before it's grazed again. in here, when you dig through all this long grass, you can hopefully, yeah, see quite a lot of evidence of insect life and quite a lot of worm activity, too. so this is healthy soil. paul and nic have also planted trees

and hedgerows to create more natural habitats. this is the most diverse hedgerow, would you say? yeah, one of them. we've got bird cherry, holly, hawthorn. and their efforts have paid off. a recent bird survey showed there were 49 different species just on their farm. it's like a smorgasbord for nature. and it is quietly coming back. and the more and more of those little habitats you have, the more and more nature you seem to attract. and in a way, it's almost addictive. the uk is one of the most nature depleted countries in the world, and the hope is that this report will provide an alarm call and a guide to making more space for the natural world. victoria gill, bbc news. new laws have come into force in northern ireland, which will grant anonymity to people suspected of sexual offences until they are charged. members of the public will also be excluded from the crown court during sexual offence cases. northern ireland is the first part of the uk to put

these measures into law. funerals have been held in northern iraq after at least 113 people died when a fire swept through a wedding. officials say the blaze was caused by fireworks which were lit during the celebration with flammable materials in the hall fuelling it. gb news has suspended two of its presenters, dan wootton and laurence fox, following disparaging comments on air about a female journalist. wootton has apologised for not intervening while fox made the remarks. donald trump has skipped the second tv debate in the republican presidential nomination race. the former president, who is leading the polls to run as the republican candidate, visited a car parts factory in michigan instead, the day after president biden met striking staff at a nearby picket line. an independent health think—tank is calling for nhs workers in england to have their student loans written off after ten years' service. the nuffield trust believes it

will help retain staff and curb the high number of students who fail to finish their training. here's more from our health correspondent nick triggle. 0xygen away, shocking now. it takes nearly £65,000 to train a nurse on average. that is more than is recouped in student loan repayments. and yet research by the nuffield trust shows significant numbers of nurses and other front line staff are not finishing their training or leaving the nhs soon after starting. 13% of nurse students fail to finish their courses and the numbers are similar for radiographers and occupational therapists. once they start working in the nhs,18% of nurses leave within two years. for physios and occupational therapists, the numbers are even higher at 21%. the nuffield trust has called for a loan forgiveness scheme whereby nurses, midwives and staff such as physios and radiographers have their debts

written off after ten years' service in the nhs. many of these staff actually won't pay back their student loans over the course of their careers, so actually it's not as expensive as it might seem to start to pay those off early on in return for years of service. it would cost about £230 million a year. that might sound a lot, but it's a very small proportion, for example, compared to increasing the wage bill of hospital staff by 1%. it said this was not a silver bullet and other steps, including better salaries in the early years and support for newjoiners was needed. but the government has rejected the suggestion, saying support was already in place, including 5,000 a year training grants that struck the right balance between the interests of taxpayers and students. take some deep breaths and relax now. nick triggle, bbc news. a nasa astronaut and two russian cosmonauts have returned to earth after being stuck in space for six months longer than planned. the trio spent 371 days in orbit after their spacecraft sprang

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anyway, shall we do the weather? a to bear in mind next time you us stuck in an airport with a delay! yes, it is not like those cosmonauts!— yes, it is not like those cosmonauts! �*, ., ,, ., ,, ., cosmonauts! let's talk about storm a: nes. it cosmonauts! let's talk about storm agnes- it hit _ cosmonauts! let's talk about storm agnes. it hit its _ cosmonauts! let's talk about storm agnes. it hit its peak _ cosmonauts! let's talk about storm agnes. it hit its peak before - cosmonauts! let's talk about storm agnes. it hit its peak before it - cosmonauts! let's talk about storm agnes. it hit its peak before it hit . agnes. it hit its peak before it hit the uk, but we saw some rough seas, some west wales wind peaked at 84 miles an hour, in the irish sea coast, winds in excess of 60. the strongest winds are out of the way and storm agnes has disappeared to the north of us. this hook cloud is producing some strong winds in northern scotland. a bit of cloud is turning morning sunshine milk in places and it will increase today, the cloud, but sunny spells winning. showers light, most places missing them to begin with. still a blustery

day, the winter is coming in from south—westerly direction so it will not be a cold day. —— the wind is coming in. nota not be a cold day. —— the wind is coming in. not a call today. some heavy rain will push in for the evening rush hour, a short burst of intense rain in western scotland and northern ireland, and outbreaks of rain becoming more extensive across wales, the south—west and into north west england. eastern areas will stay dry through the rush—hour but the rain will work east through wales, central and potentially southern england tonight, skies clearing later on and temperatures will drop a little bit lower than last night. 0nce will drop a little bit lower than last night. once we have lost the rain in the southeast it is looking like a fine day tomorrow. trainee surgeons have started working with a new artificial intelligence tool that can help to guide them through complicated brain surgery. that can help to guide them the technology is being developed at university college london with the hope it can used during live surgery within two

years, making the procedures safer and more effective. our global health correspondent tulip mazumdar reports. the future of health care is changing rapidly here. machines have been learning how best to perform brain surgery, and now they're training the surgeons of tomorrow. what are those structures here based on the ai? can you see these segmented structures? right and left carotid artery. yeah, correct. trainee surgeon nicola is one of the first to be using artificial intelligence to help her learn about keyhole surgery at the center of the brain. today, she's training in a mock theatre on a pretend patient. so here we see a simulated pituitary operation, and right in the centre of the screen is the pituitary tumour. the a! has learnt from analysing videos of this type of surgery where exactly the surgeon is in the brain and can help guide them at critical points.

so it's very useful because it principally helps me orientate myself during the surgery and helps me identify what steps and what stages are coming up next. and what's this in yellow on the ai? whilst the ai trains nicola, it's also quickly learning how to do all this in real life. what we're hoping for is that in the near future, in the next year or two, we will introduce this a! in theatres in real time in patients to help support surgeons making those decisions during the operation and help provide a better quality of surgery. this a! system has learned from watching and analysing more than 200 videos of this type of surgery. it would take your average brain surgeon around ten years to gain that level of experience, but it's taken this ai around ten months. all right, should we have a look at the tumour resection phase? so it teaches the a! that today. like the technology itself, regulation around artificial intelligence in healthcare is still evolving. these are two of the specialists tasked with teaching the ai and ensuring patient safety. how do you make sure

what you're teaching the ai is absolutely correct, that it's not going to sort of run away with itself with information that is possibly incomplete? so the type of a! we use is called supervised learning. so everything that we put into it is something that we've taken a look at as an entire team of experts. and practically, that looks like myself and some of the other members of our team spending hundreds of hours making sure that the information we're feeding the al to teach it is as accurate as it can be. and here comes the tumour. this tech isn't replacing surgeons any time soon. it's still a human that will control the scalpel. but the possibilities for al in health care are endless. you could in a few years have an a! system that has seen more operations than any human has ever or could ever see. but that offers the opportunity for the al to offer insights that no surgeon has yet acquired. i'm very bullish that

in the medium to long term, we'll see a! supporting our work as surgeons, notjust for pituitary surgery and neurosurgery, but for all types of surgery. tulip mazumdar, bbc news. let's take a look at today's papers. most of them lead on the stabbing of a 15—year—old girl in croydon. the mirror calls it "every parent's nightmare" and says it is part of a "knife crime epidemic". the telegraph reports figures that suggest fewer than half of trainee gps in the uk go on to work for the nhs full time. it says the country is increasingly reliant on doctors who trained abroad to fill vacancies. the times reports that downing street has backed plans to threaten to leave the european convention on human rights. the paper says the threat would be intended to serve as a "warning shot" to the court not to block government plans to deport asylum seekers from the uk to rwanda.

and one of the top stories on the bbc news website today is an assurance from the national grid that the uk faces lower risk of electricity blackouts this winter compared to last. and let's welcome you to an extremely rare baby silvery gibbon with its mother. 0h, oh, i hadn't seen that, look at the mum holding the green beans for her, how sweet! the birth of the gibbon on the isle of man is welcome news, asjust 2,000 adults remain in the wild. 0bviously obviously this one was born in a zoo. ., , ., , , zoo. how beautiful. very sweet. great hairdo _ zoo. how beautiful. very sweet. great hairdo as _ zoo. how beautiful. very sweet. great hairdo as well. _ zoo. how beautiful. very sweet. great hairdo as well. especiallyl great hairdo as well. especially coiffed just _ great hairdo as well. especially coiffed just for _ great hairdo as well. especially coiffed just for that _ great hairdo as well. especially coiffed just for that photo, - great hairdo as well. especially coiffed just for that photo, i'ml coiffed just for that photo, i'm sure. it coiffed 'ust for that photo, i'm sure. ., , coiffed 'ust for that photo, i'm sure, ., , ., ., " coiffed 'ust for that photo, i'm sure, ., , " coiffed 'ust for that photo, i'm sure. ., , ~ ., sure. it does look like it. some of stories. menus, _ sure. it does look like it. some of stories. menus, one _ sure. it does look like it. some of stories. menus, one of— sure. it does look like it. some of stories. menus, one of these - sure. it does look like it. some of| stories. menus, one of these polls has been done about favourite, basically they asked people to

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they drank it there and then? thea;r they drank it there and then? they sa it was they drank it there and then? they say it was $558,000. _ they drank it there and then? tie: say it was $558,000. it was they drank it there and then? tierg say it was $558,000. it was at they drank it there and then? tieg say it was $558,000. it was at a commercial auction. those numbers are extraordinary. if commercial auction. those numbers are extraordinary.— are extraordinary. if you like wine or have a lot _ are extraordinary. if you like wine or have a lot of— are extraordinary. if you like wine or have a lot of money. _ when aliens visit earth in movies, they often target big cities like london, tokyo or new york. but did they actually choose to hover above a primary school in pembrokeshire? close encounters theme. did you hear something then? i didn't hear anything. can we do it again? close encounters of the third kind theme. i had at that time! this because i heard it that time!

in 1977, pupils at broad haven primary were convinced they'd spotted a ufo, one of several similar incidents in what became known as "the dyfed triangle". now a netflix documentary is exploring those claims, as aled scourfield reports. 1977 was a year the pupils of broad haven will never forget. the spaceship, it looked cigar shaped with a dome on it. i couldn't see its face because it was too far away. oh, you say you saw- a man as well, did you? yes. were you frightened at the time? yes. why? i thought there would be an alarm inside there or something. suddenly the silver cigar shaped object seemed to pop up from behind the bushes and trying to take off, then it disappeared again. i can't say any more than it was a ufo. it was an unidentified flying object. i mean, all of us kids, especially the boys, we were familiar with everything that nature had in the air at the time. we were so close to raf brawdy, we could identify anything up there. there are lots of people who have dismissed it. and i'd just like them to look

at the new evidence that's come along now and look at the story again with an open mind. there was a spate of sightings after the strange goings—on at broad haven primary school. this area became known as the dyfed triangle because so many people said that they'd seen ufos. it was a good seven feet tall, it had like a silver suit with like a motorbike visor. that's all it had for a face. very, very dark. i thought, "good god, what is that?" i thought, that's not a man. a new documentary series made by netflix called encounters features the story of multiple ufo sightings in pembrokeshire. i just found the welsh story to be, it was an incredible story. it wasn't just one thing that happened. there was this event at the school, then there was this event at the farm. then there was this event at the hotel. there was hundreds and hundreds of people. and that sort of critical mass, i think it was something like over

450 people witnessed it. broad haven primary have kept the drawings made by pupils of what they saw in 1977. the current pupils will play a starring role in the new documentary, recreating the events of 1977. we had to wear like old clothes and play football and look at this really bright thing. when we pretended we had to see the ufo on the fields, we had to run into class. perhaps there were actually aliens |that were there, but i don't know. j |a friend who was in the original year six told me that it was just a lorry, it wasjust a man driving a lorry. _ when he got out, they. started shouting at him, calling him an alien. but you never know. the parents have arranged a premiere in the village hall on saturday, so the children are going to dress up in their shirt and tie or dressed as aliens and go to their own premiere of their show. what really happened here in the broad haven area in 1977 remains a mystery, but the truth is out there somewhere. aled scourfield, bbc news.

well, well, well. i believe the kids, i well, well, well. i believe the kids. i do- — well, well, well. i believe the kids. i do- i— well, well, well. i believe the kids, i do. i don't— well, well, well. i believe the kids, i do. i don't see - well, well, well. i believe the kids, i do. i don't see how- well, well, well. i believe the kids, i do. i don't see how a l well, well, well. i believe the i kids, i do. i don't see how a whole bunch of children can make something up, ok, i know this sounds silly, but all seeing the same thing. let’s but all seeing the same thing. let's look at the evidence. _ but all seeing the same thing. let's look at the evidence. cigar —shaped, seven foot tall, this is all evidence. the breakfast audience is amazing. if you have been withholding for all of these years the picture that everyone is waiting forfor the picture that everyone is waiting for for the alien that has landed on that day, today's the day, get in touch. ., , but touch. the drawings were there. but ma be touch. the drawings were there. but may be some _ touch. the drawings were there. but may be some a _ touch. the drawings were there. but may be some a picture _ touch. the drawings were there. but may be some a picture and - touch. the drawings were there. but may be some a picture and they i touch. the drawings were there. but| may be some a picture and they have been holding back all this time, so waiting for the moment. this been holding back all this time, so waiting for the moment.— waiting for the moment. this has caused quite _ waiting for the moment. this has caused quite a — waiting for the moment. this has caused quite a bit _ waiting for the moment. this has caused quite a bit of _ waiting for the moment. this has caused quite a bit of debate. i still to come on today's programme. h&m bosses have promised to be more

consistent with the sizing of their clothes after the retail chain started charging online customers to return unwanted items in the post. it goes back to the thing, you get stuff through the post, you often order two or three different sizes because the sizes are not consistent. so we are going to be talking about this. we'll look at your rights when it comes to trying on clothes it is definitely something which has irked people. it is definitely something which has irked people-— irked people. imagine what it is like bein: irked people. imagine what it is like being a _ irked people. imagine what it is like being a seven _ irked people. imagine what it is like being a seven foot - irked people. imagine what it is like being a seven foot tall- irked people. imagine what it is| like being a seven foot tall alien with sizing problems, must be a nightmare. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. say hello, good morning from bbc london. hello, good morning from bbc london. a murder investigation is continuing this morning into the fatal stabbing of a 15—year—old girl in croydon. police say the teenager was attacked on a bus on her way to school in south london yesterday morning. a 17—year—old boy has been arrested and remains in police custody. it's thought he may

have known the girl. there's been a big rise in the number of foreign students choosing to study in london. since 2016, they have grown by 59%, with many now saying they're stuggling to find accommodation due to the rental crisis. organisations including the national union of students are calling for more affordable places for students to live. some universities are expanding at a rate much higher than the local housing stock can deal with. so they're not building at that rate or, even if they are, they might be building really expensive accommodation, or, on the other hand, the private rental market can't keep up with it, especially in areas like london and the south east. the royal borough of kensington and chelsea has introduced new parking spaces for e—bikes, hoping it will help clear pavements and encourage residents to use them more. opponents have criticised rental bike and e—scooter providers, saying they create trip hazards.

a trial of e—scooters is currenbtly taking place in london and — and tfl says it will work to reduce the impact of e—scooters on those with disabilities during its trial. a number of local authorities around london will receive part of an £80 million investment in their bus services. councils including essex, hertfordshire and buckinghamshire will benefit from the funding as part of the bus service improvement plan. the money could be used to extend timetables, reduce fares or roll out new routes. a look at the tubes now — there are delays on the metropolitan line. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's another mild start this morning. still breezy, today, as well, but slightly lighter than yesterday — the wind a moderate south—westerly. sunny spells, but also the chance of a few light showers. any sunshine this

morning fairly hazy. we have some high cloud. the cloud will thicken through the afternoon. it is then we could see one or two light showers developing. maximum temperature, though, still reasonably mild at around 20 celsius. overnight tonight, the cloud will continue to thicken. we will get some spells of rain. could get a heavier burst into the early hours of tomorrow morning. minimum temperature, again it is going to be mild, around 13 celsius. that rain will clear through friday. a ridge of high pressure starts to build, so once any cloud and rain from the south—east move out of the way, we have dry and sunny conditions. a bit of fair weather cloud and temperatures getting up to around 21 celsius. as we head into the weekend, fine and dry for saturday. 1st of october, of course, on sunday and we could see temperatures at 23 celsius. that's it for now. more on the bbc news app. i'll be back in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with

naga munchetty and charlie stayt. as we've been hearing, a murder investigation is continuing in south london after a 15—year—old girl was fatally stabbed while on her way to school yesterday. a 17—year—old boy, who is thought to have known the girl, is being held. the tragedy is the latest incident of a young person falling victim to knife crime. the latest figures show that, of all the homicides in england and wales in the 12 months before march last year, 122 of the victims were in the 16 to 24 age group, that was the biggest group. and 69 were aged between 13 and 19. in three quarters of those deaths, the weapon used was a knife or sharp instrument. we can now speak to patrick green from the anti—knife crime charity the ben kinsella trust. good morning. thank you for your time. those statistics we read out

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off the streets and to do that we need to give police resources and legislation to carry out the job effectively and we need to tackle the root causes of knife crime. prevention, early intervention, we need to do that more effectively. knives, particularly large machete, zombie knives, are too readily available. if you want to buy one, you can go online, for £20, you can have one delivered to your door tomorrow and the only age very vocation you need is a debit card or credit card which is wrong. hour vocation you need is a debit card or credit card which is wrong. how can that beast adopt? _ credit card which is wrong. how can that beast adopt? the _ credit card which is wrong. how can that beast adopt? the government| that beast adopt? the government ro osed that beast adopt? the government proposed legislation. _ that beast adopt? the government proposed legislation. they - that beast adopt? the government proposed legislation. they ran i that beast adopt? the government proposed legislation. they ran a i proposed legislation. they ran a consultation. we have tried to respond to that as half the national police chiefs' council. the challenge, it takes time for legislation to get through parliament. i urge politicians to

come together and get this legislation through the books as quickly as possible. because any delay, the incident like you see behind me, they happen daily. these knives are used daily to harm and kill young people. it is a national crisis and we need to act now. you will be aware _ crisis and we need to act now. you will be aware that _ crisis and we need to act now. you will be aware that often young people who carry knives say the reason they carry them is for protection. that is sometimes what is said because they have little faith in their own safety on the streets or indeed the police in reacting to others carrying knives. it feeds off itself. it does. it is a vicious cycle that grows. from the work we have done, talking to 6000 young people each year, we know young people each year, we know young people each year, we know young people who do not feel safe where they live and go to school are

three times more likely to think a knife will protect them. there is work to be done with young people to make sure they feel safe in environments they live and go to school in. charities such as ben kinsella trust, and many mentors and youth groups do is vital in reaching out to young people and getting important messages out about staying safe. carrying a knife does not protect you, it does the opposite and this is the message we can get to young people and help them make better decisions to stay safe. it is early intervention that is important and youth services, which have been decimated, that do vital work in helping to stop this problem. that is where investment is needed and thatis is where investment is needed and that is what we need to do more. questions will be asked again because of the latest incident. you can be categorical, you can point to

places where charities and organisations are having a positive impact. organisations are having a positive im act. ~ , ,., , organisations are having a positive imact. , ,�* ., impact. absolutely. it isn't that what we are — impact. absolutely. it isn't that what we are doing _ impact. absolutely. it isn't that what we are doing is _ impact. absolutely. it isn't that what we are doing is not - impact. absolutely. it isn't that | what we are doing is not working impact. absolutely. it isn't that . what we are doing is not working it is just that not enough is done. it is just that not enough is done. it is scale and size. it is the most pressing problem facing this country. teenagers losing their lives. it is totally not acceptable. work done at the grassroots level to engage young people and help break that, it does work but we need to do more to reach young people. thank ou. the more to reach young people. thank yom the chief _ more to reach young people. thank you. the chief executive _ more to reach young people. thank you. the chief executive of - more to reach young people. thank you. the chief executive of the - more to reach young people. thank you. the chief executive of the ben| you. the chief executive of the ben kinsella trust. the energy regulator ofgem has told breakfast that proposals to restructure standing charges on energy bills will be set out by the end of the year. ben is here with the details. standing charges people get annoyed

about. the reason is you cannot do much about them, you cannot adjust energy used to affect the standing charges and we could get the results of that review possibly within weeks. because while the price per unit of gas and electricity may be falling, standing charges are going up, not down. last month, the head of ofgem admitted to us these charges are high and said the regulator is reviewing them. they've since told us firm proposals will be set out by end of the year. let me remind you exactly what these standing charges are. they are fixed daily fees, a bit like the line rental for your phone. they're charged for a gas and electricity connection and added to your bill regardless of how much or how little energy you use. these fees can vary quite significantly depending on where you live and who your supplier is. why do they exist? well, they're supposed to cover so—called non—energy costs

involved in supplying the energy to your home. things like maintaining the network of cables or pipes. the cost of sending staff to do meter readings or repairs and providing call centres. but these fees have gone up significantly. back in april 2019, the average charge per year for a typical household was around £180. now that's climbed to almost £300 a year. ofgem says that's because suppliers have had to absorb the costs of the energy companies that went bust in recent years. many of you got in touch with us when we last talked about this on breakfast. cost of living correspondent colletta smith metjayne and leon to hear how standing charges are affecting them. good boy! at the moment, jayne feels like she's having to perform magic tricks to afford her energy bills. when this year's statement has come

in, they wanted £288 off me. i said i don't get that a fortnight, there's no way i can do that. unless i go rob a bank, which i can't run right fast, so...! she's got arthritis and blood cancer, and both conditions get worse in the cold. i've got draft excluders, i've got brushes on my letterbox, we do turn things off, you know. i don't think we can do much more than we already are doing. and it's the standing charge in particular that makes her angry, because it's eating up more than half of her gas and electricity charges. i don't expect it for nowt, you know. i use it, i'll pay for it. but i shouldn't have to be worrying about it. no matter how much jayne turns off the lights and keeps the heating off, like every household, she's still hit with the same standing—charge payments. there have been growing calls to completely change the way standing charges are applied — first coming from charities and now mps are joining in that call,

saying it's unfair, that it hits people on prepayment meters hardest and that those who can afford it the [east end up paying the biggest chunk of their bill on standing charges. the standing charge per day is 55.6 pence a day. over the last 18 months, leon's standing charges have doubled. you're being charged for nothing. if you use no gas, no electric whatsoever, if you turn your fridge off, if you turned everything off, it's still costing you 84—85p a day, which is like nearly £320 a year. for those who live alone, the standing charges feel particularly tough. i don't think there should be standing charges at all. and if there are running costs, that's fair enough, it should be minimal. the regulator ofgem told breakfast they were looking into the issue. potentially it could change, but this is not simple. i mean, the costs of the system remain fixed, if you change around how they're charged for, there will be losers

as well winners. now, ofgem has told me that concrete proposals will be set out by the end of the year and, in the meantime, suppliers are free to structure their tariffs as they see fit, which is exactly what's happened forjayne. as a vulnerable customer, her supplier octopus have just agreed to waive her standing charge for the next six months. relief. relief that i'm going to be paying £70, £80 a month, but it's going to be going all to my bill, all to what i owe them. it's not going to be half of it going to standing charge. but unless the government or the regulator change the way the system runs, she's still facing the same problem in the new year. colletta smith, bbc news, in bradford. a lot of you got in touch when we last spoke about this on the programme. adam said his prepayment gas meter only supplies his boiler for heating and hot water. he hasn't used it or topped it up since march yet it now has a debt on it of more than £35. kay from driffield

said it's horrendous. "we have an empty house to sell and we're still paying £25 per month which is all standing charge." we want to hear from you this morning about whether you have noticed your standing charge going up, what you think about it and what, if anything, should be done. you can send us a message on whatsapp. and you can e—mail and use social media. we will run through your comments later. where are you taking us? i am taking you to rome. ajoyous picture last night. you can see aberg from sweden taking a selfie. the first figure. he only turned professional three months ago and he said if anyone had told him he would be playing the ryder cup, he would never have

believed them. it sums up what it is all about. the individual sport of golf becomes a team event and the rivalry between europe and the usa. they spend the week bonding, go out for meals, press conferences, the opening ceremony. the naming of the opening ceremony. the naming of the opening pairings. it is all happening. what i love, so much in sport these days is about money but this weekend not a pound to be one. it is about tradition and the sport. the ryder cup get�*s under way on friday in rome. it will be the first edition of the tournament since the start of the breakway liv golf series. brooks koepka is the only rebel golfer taking part on the us team, europe made the decision to exclude liv golfers. 0ur correspondent andy swiss looks is in the italian capital looking at what we can expect. relaxed, ready and raring to go.

the european team have been all smiles this week, whether it's posing or practising. but the ryder cup can stir the emotions like little else. just ask rory mcilroy, who revealed he'd already been moved to tears by a message from his caddie and lifelong friend. we all got a personal video message on monday night and harry did my one and just sort of bringing us through ourjourney from when we were kids at hollywood golf club, when we were seven years old on the putting greens. and now, you know, we're sort of doing our third ryder cup together. and, you know, the other guys got messages that meantjust as much to them and there were a lot of tears shed. two years ago, mcilroy was in tears for different reasons, after the us cruised to victory in wisconsin. but here, europe have new stars like sweden's ludwig aberg, who, remarkably, has onlyjust turned professional, and bob macintyre, who's been showing off

his ryder cup pyjamas. but, most crucially, they have home advantage. rome is ready to roar. it's really buzzing. you can see there's lots of whoops and all sorts of stuff everywhere — it's brilliant. the europe team play in europe. you know, they are playing gorgeous. so, you know, quite confident. how confident are you feeling about europe's chances? very confident, yeah. i think america will be lucky to finish second. well, having the fans behind you counts for a lot at the ryder cup. in fact, europe haven't lost on home soil for 30 years. but they know extending that record won't be easy. right behind you. america has three of this year's four major winners, including brooks koepka, and their fans who have flown here aren't lacking confidence. are us going to win? yes. yes, you heard it here first. are you going to make yourselves heard?

oh, that's the plan. these are just the warm—up outfits. we've got even better gear coming on friday. the crowds here have already enjoyed a celebrity event starring novak djokovic, who eventually swapped his tennis racket for a golf club. fun and games, so far, but soon it's down to serious business. andy swiss, bbc news, rome. and there is build—up on bbc radio 5 live tonight. now football and a first defeat for manchester city, this season. and so the quadruple is off this season for them. but not newcastle united, who knocked city out of the league cup. they booked their place in the fourth round, thanks to alexander isak, who scored the only goal, to beat a much—changed man city at st james' park. newcastle boss eddie howe says his side are eager to go one better this season and win the trophy they narrowly missed out on last season. funnily enough, next up

will be the side that beat them in the final, manchester united. the pick of last night's goals came at anfield — a stunner from dominik szoboszlai as liverpool came from behind to beat championship leaders leicester. that was the closest to an uspet last night. but relief for chelsea who finally managed a win against brighton. nicolas jackson's finish ending a run of three games without a goal for them. for a round—up of results, and the fourth round draw visit the bbc sport website. the draw for the scottish league cup semifinals also took place last night and hearts will take on rangers, while hibernian will host aberdeen. ridvan yilmaz scored the goal of the night as rangers eased past livingstone 4—0 at ibrox in one of three quarterfinals on the night. what a finish. elsewhere, hibs beat st mirren 11—2 while aberdeen overcame ross county 2—1. bbc sport has been told several players from the aston villa women's team are unhappy about the prospect of wearing the club's kit.

villa's male players have reportedly told the club the shirts are retaining sweat, making them uncomfortable. the new home claret and blue shirts are the worst affected — noticeably changing colour in games. aston villa women are due to wear the kit in their women's super league opener against manchester united on sunday. andrew flintoff is certain to be involved in england's coaching set—up again, according to limited—overs head coach matthew mott. flintoff — seen in the hat in the middle here earlier this month — was injured in an accident filming top gear for the bbc last year. the former england skipper flintoff, who is now a5, joined mott's white—ball coaching staff on an informal basis for part of this summer's international commitments. anyone who has spent any time in the company of freddie will know what an inspiration he can be around the camp. it is his infectious personality.

the weather, we can find out what it is like on thursday. matt's here. a quieter day yesterday. the strong winds of cleared out of north of scotland and brighter today. still breezy. all will see sunny spells with just passing showers. this swirl was storm agnes. more approaching weather systems so more wet and windy weather to come but we are in a window in between so most starting thursday dry. rain in northern scotland. some lighter showers through the day. some of the brightest conditions in the east but even here the sunshine may be hazy. even though it is not as windy, it is breezy. coming from the south—west so in the brighter

moments, feeling quite pleasant. we will finish the day with heavy rain in the west. northern ireland and western scotland to begin with and then in western england and wales and that moves southwards and eastwards during the night and within it gusty winds. coming to a halt in the east by the end of the night. a warm night, 15—17. elsewhere, fresher to start the day but not a cold start tomorrow. high pressure will build. for many, it should be a fine day but the far north of scotland, we could see 50-60 north of scotland, we could see 50—60 mph gusts driving in showers. but further away from scotland, few showers and most places dry, at least for the bulk of the day. up to around 21—22 for some. a cold night

will follow to take us into the weekend. sunny conditions first thing. while it will stay sunny in the south—eastern fadel scotland, we finish with rain across ireland, wales, northern england and parts of central and southern scotland. the rain moving southwards and eastwards through saturday night and into sunday. most of the rain will be by night. the weather front bringing a cloudy start in the south of england and wales on sunday. away from that, another day of sunny spells, passing showers but over all looking reasonable with temperatures 15—20. storm agnes did not cause us too many problems but look at this from greece where a storm hit. the same areas impacted by storm daniel the

other week. areas impacted by storm daniel the otherweek. heavy areas impacted by storm daniel the other week. heavy showers and thunderstorms across the eastern mediterranean the rest of the week. studio: why would you drive a scooter through those potholes. you should not be driving your car through. thanks very much. during the pandemic, we got used to tracking the number of covid cases via the government's official data dashboard. now the uk health security agency has launched a new version of that dashboard for england, which also covers other respiratory illnesses like flu. let's speak now to the virologist doctor chris smith, who is in cambridge. good morning. this dashboard, how useful will it be? we good morning. this dashboard, how useful will it be?— useful will it be? we saw the pepularity — useful will it be? we saw the pepularity of _ useful will it be? we saw the popularity of having - useful will it be? we saw the popularity of having data - useful will it be? we saw the popularity of having data at l useful will it be? we saw the i popularity of having data at our fingertips during covid and some dubbed it the democratisation of data. for many years, laboratories like the one i help run collect this

data and we share it with the hospital and primary care practitioners. they find it useful to get an insight. a giant infectious radar screen effectively of what is circulating and where and in what numbers in the community and hospital. this extends it so everyone can track what is doing the rounds and be involved in the decision—making process on how to keep themselves safe. haw decision-making process on how to keep themselves safe.— decision-making process on how to keep themselves safe. how current is this data? you _ keep themselves safe. how current is this data? you say _ keep themselves safe. how current is this data? you say you _ keep themselves safe. how current is this data? you say you can _ keep themselves safe. how current is this data? you say you can track - keep themselves safe. how current is this data? you say you can track and l this data? you say you can track and perhaps react, how current is it? this will be updated weekly. we will get a weekly snapshot. we are not sampling every infection. a good analogy is if i stood on the quayside at harbours around the uk and asked fishermen what have you caught today, you will get a snapshot of what fish are out there. every week, you can see how the

trend is changing. they are relative numbers and tell you roughly what is increasing in prevalence, what is decreasing and it gives you an insight into the picture as a whole. across the week, it is a moving picture so people can see week by week how the trend and different things come with different seasons. we will not be able to provide the resolution anything more frequently than a week would be helpful to give us. ., , , than a week would be helpful to give us. . , , ., . ~ us. remind me what is being tracked. it is notjust — us. remind me what is being tracked. it is notjust covid _ us. remind me what is being tracked. it is notjust covid this _ us. remind me what is being tracked. it is notjust covid this time. - us. remind me what is being tracked. it is notjust covid this time. they - it is not 'ust covid this time. they are it is notjust covid this time. they are usina it is notjust covid this time. they are using the _ it is notjust covid this time. they are using the learning _ it is notjust covid this time. ire: are using the learning points it is notjust covid this time. fie: are using the learning points from how we communicated data on covid and extending it to common infections we diagnose in laboratories like ours. a total at the moment of seven common infections including influenza virus, a range of infections that are common at the moment and

routinely tested. they will be integrated and presented but i think the aspiration is to use the interface to add data for other outbreaks, including those we do not know about yet. outbreaks, including those we do not know about yet-— know about yet. what can be done in resonse know about yet. what can be done in response to — know about yet. what can be done in response to a — know about yet. what can be done in response to a spike _ know about yet. what can be done in response to a spike in _ know about yet. what can be done in response to a spike in a _ know about yet. what can be done in response to a spike in a virus? - know about yet. what can be done in response to a spike in a virus? when j response to a spike in a virus? when a erson response to a spike in a virus? when a person knows _ response to a spike in a virus? when a person knows something _ response to a spike in a virus? when a person knows something is - a person knows something is circulating, a gp for example, and they see inquiries from patients with certain symptoms they will be able to say this is common in the community at the moment and probably what it is and howl community at the moment and probably what it is and how i would manage it. it will help with triage to an extent and hospitals in the same way can make infection diseases and control decisions which makes planning easier and the public as a whole, we can see what might be cropping up and stock up on paracetamol if it comes to it, and know what to expect at what time of year if making decisions about

parties, visiting elderly relatives. it gives everyone a stake in what is going on and how infection spreads. when you say control measures in hospital, such as what?— hospital, such as what? covid continues _ hospital, such as what? covid continues to _ hospital, such as what? covid continues to be _ hospital, such as what? covid continues to be a _ hospital, such as what? covid continues to be a problem. i hospital, such as what? covidl continues to be a problem. we hospital, such as what? covid - continues to be a problem. we are seeing more cases of that again at this time of year. many say it is down to a new variant but that is not causing the majority of cases, we are just seeing an increase in cases. it is not a headache because it makes people severely ill, it is a headache because of doing good infection control and working out how to manage cases in hospital to keep people safe. if we know what tends to happen in the community and across the country as a whole, we can make plans, warned staff and take steps before it becomes a bigger problem in the hopes it will get ahead of the challenges rather than wait for them to be a problem and then fire fight.—

and then fire fight. wearing face coverin . s and then fire fight. wearing face coverings feels _ and then fire fight. wearing face coverings feels a _ and then fire fight. wearing face coverings feels a lifetime - and then fire fight. wearing face coverings feels a lifetime ago. i and then fire fight. wearing face i coverings feels a lifetime ago. we are probably used to not wearing them. you see the occasional person with one on. do you think with this dashboard that it will be easier to communicate if there is an outbreak of something for us to buy into that more easily this time? if of something for us to buy into that more easily this time?— more easily this time? if people understand _ more easily this time? if people understand certain _ more easily this time? if people understand certain things - more easily this time? if people understand certain things are i understand certain things are becoming more common at certain times of the year it helps everyone to make informed choices about how they choose to combat the threat and they choose to combat the threat and the threat means different things to different people in different sectors. over the past three years we learnt the hard way how vulnerable they are, what their perceived risk is from any infectious disease. knowing something is more common gives people that choice and gives people insight into what they might or might not choose to do and who they choose to mix with and what measures they take in their view to keep

themselves safe.— they take in their view to keep themselves safe. , ., ._ , ., ., themselves safe. chris, always good at explaining — themselves safe. chris, always good at explaining stuff, _ themselves safe. chris, always good at explaining stuff, thank— themselves safe. chris, always good at explaining stuff, thank you. i coming up on breakfast. call the midwife star helen george is swapping role in a stage version of the bangkok—based musical the king and i. she'll be on the sofa at ten to nine. time for the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning from bbc london, i'm thomas magill. a murder investigation is continuing this morning into the fatal stabbing of a 15—year—old girl in croydon. police say the teenager was attacked on a bus on her way to school in south london yesterday morning. a 17—year—old boy has been arrested and remains in police custody. it's thought he may have known the girl. there's been a big rise in the number of foreign students choosing to study here in london. since 2016 they have grown by 59%

with many now saying they're stuggling to find accommodation due to the rental crisis. organisations including the national union of students is calling for more affordable places for students to live. some universities are expanding at a rate much higher than the local housing stock can deal with. so they're not building at that rate or, even if they are, they might be building really expensive accommodation, or, on the other hand, the private rental market can't keep up with it, especially in areas like london and the south east. a government spokesperson said... "attracting students internationally is good for our universities and we encourage universities and private accommodation providers to consider their needs and support them accordingly." the royal borough of kensington and chelsea has introduced new parking spaces for e—bikes hoping it will help clear pavements and encourage residents to use them more. opponents have criticised rental bike and e—scooter providers saying they create trip hazards.

a trial of e—scooters is currently taking place in london and and tfl says it will work to reduce the impact of e—scooters on those with disabilities during its trial. a number of local authorities around london will receive part of an £80 million investment in their bus services. councils including essex, hertfordshire, and buckinghamshire will benefit from the funding as part of the bus service improvement plan. the money could be used to extend timetables, reduce fares, or roll out new routes. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's a good service on all of the network. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's another mild start this morning. still breezy, today, as well, but slightly lighter than yesterday — the wind a moderate south—westerly. sunny spells, but also the chance of a few light showers. any sunshine this morning fairly hazy. we have some high cloud. the cloud will thicken through the afternoon.

it is then we could see one or two light showers developing. maximum temperature, though, still reasonably mild at around 20 celsius. overnight tonight, the cloud will continue to thicken. we will get some spells of rain. could get a heavier burst into the early hours of tomorrow morning. minimum temperature, again it is going to be mild, around 13 celsius. that rain will clear through friday. a ridge of high pressure starts to build, so once any cloud and rain from the south—east move out of the way, we have dry and sunny conditions. a bit of fair weather cloud and temperatures getting up to around 21 celsius. as we head into the weekend, fine and dry for saturday. 1st of october, of course, on sunday and we could see temperatures at 23 celsius. that's it for now. much more on the bbc news app and on bbc radio london.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. police are continuing to question a teenage boy about the fatal stabbing of a fifteen—year—old girl in croydon. as millions of households face another winter of high energy bills, the regulator ofgem tells breakfast its review of standing charges and how they've gone up will be complete within weeks. a major nature study has found that one in six wildlife species in the uk is at risk of becoming extinct. the quadruple is off for manchester city as newcastle knock them out of the league cup. it's a first defeat of the season for city, as newcastle,

go onto face manchester united in the fourth round. strictly starjody cundy will be here to tell us how he's hoping for success with partner jovita on the dance floor and off it at next year's paralympics. storm agnes out of the way so quieter weathered day for the masked majority, —— for the vast majority, all of that heat coming up. —— all of the details coming up. it's thursday the 28th of september. our main story. a murder investigation is continuing in south london after a 15—year—old girl was fatally stabbed on her way to school. a boy aged 17 was arrested shortly after the attack in croydon yesterday morning, and police say he may have known the victim. our reporter louisa pilbeam is at the scene. good morning, louisa. we have seen the tributes paid to this girl but

we know that this is a shocking incident that many people are trying to come to terms with. yes. incident that many people are trying to come to terms with.— to come to terms with. yes, and olice to come to terms with. yes, and police are _ to come to terms with. yes, and police are appealing _ to come to terms with. yes, and police are appealing for- to come to terms with. yes, and police are appealing for anyone l to come to terms with. yes, and i police are appealing for anyone who may have witnessed this incident to come forward. if anyone has any video footage to give that to them on what would have been a busy morning at 8:30am yesterday. the girl who died here was a schoolgirl, she had just got off this bass, she wasjust she had just got off this bass, she was just trying to get to school. —— this bus. here is my report on what police are calling every parents worst nightmare. behind these screens overnight, forensic experts search for evidence after a teenage girl was killed. stabbed in the neck on a busy street on her way to school. this bus had been full of schoolchildren at 8.30 yesterday morning on one of the main roads through the london borough of croydon. the bus driver and passers—by tried to save the 15—year—old. witnesses said there had been

an argument with a boy who tried to give her or her friend flowers. the girl, who has not been named by police, died before she could be taken to hospital. detectives say they believe she may have known her attacker. within 75 minutes of the incident happening, a 17—year—old boy was arrested in new addington. he remains in custody and will be questioned by detectives. we remain in the early stages of our investigation, however, based on what we know so far, we believe that we are not looking for anyone else in connection with this offence. the weapon used in the attack was described by witnesses as a long knife. sir mark rowley, head of the met police, visited the scene. old palace ofjohn whitgift, where the girl was a pupil in year 11, said everyone was deeply shocked by the senseless death of a much loved pupil, a feeling echoed by the local mp.

i'm heartbroken that a child in my town has been killed on her way to school and i cannot imagine the grief that her family will be going through at this time. overnight, people came to lay flowers and leave tributes in shock that such a crime could happen in their area in broad daylight. well, there are lots of people around here as i mentioned, we are in the centre of croydon. this would have been very busy area yesterday morning. and unfortunately, in croydon, there are more stabbings than any other part of london. so while this isn't surprising, it is shocking because this was a girl and she was just on her way to school. i have spoken to the met police this morning who had confirmed that the

17—year—old who was arrested is still in police custody, and they will continue to question him today. the school, the old palace ofjohn whitgift school where the 15—year—old was a pupil has said that they are deeply shocked and they say, above all, we send our love and deepest sympathies to the girls family at this unimaginably distressing time. thank you, louisa. five minutes past seven. amongst many problems in the nhs, retaining staff is a real issue, naga. an independent health think—tank is calling for nhs workers in england to have their student loans written off after ten years' service. the nuffield trust believes it will help retain staff and curb the high number of students who fail to finish their training. here's more from our health correspondent nick triggle. oxygen away, shocking now. it takes nearly £65,000

to train a nurse on average. that is more than is recouped in student loan repayments. and yet research by the nuffield trust shows significant numbers of nurses and other front line staff are not finishing their training or leaving the nhs soon after starting. 13% of nurse students fail to finish their courses and the numbers are similar for radiographers and occupational therapists. once they start working in the nhs,18% of nurses leave within two years. for physios and occupational therapists, the numbers are even higher at 21%. the nuffield trust has called for a loan forgiveness scheme whereby nurses, midwives and staff such as physios and radiographers have their debts written off after ten years' service in the nhs. many of these staff actually won't pay back their student loans over the course of their careers, so actually it's not as expensive as it might seem to start to pay those off early on in return for years of service.

it would cost about £230 million a year. that might sound a lot, but it's a very small proportion, for example, compared to increasing the wage bill of hospital staff by 1%. it said this was not a silver bullet and other steps, including better salaries in the early years and support for newjoiners was needed. but the government has rejected the suggestion, saying support was already in place, including 5,000 a year training grants that struck the right balance between the interests of taxpayers and students. take some deep breaths and relax now. nick triggle, bbc news. wildlife charities say the uk is losing its most precious animals and plants at an alarming rate. their state of nature report claims more than 1,500 species are under threat from extinction with climate change, farming, and unsustainable fishing mainly to blame. the government says it's committed to "increasing the amount of habitat for nature to thrive".

new laws have come into force in northern ireland, which will grant anonymity to people suspected of sexual offences until they are charged. members of the public will also be excluded from the crown court during sexual offence cases. northern ireland is the first part of the uk to put these measures into law. funerals have been held in northern iraq after at least 113 people died when a fire swept through a wedding. officials say the blaze was caused by fireworks which were [it during the celebration with flammable materials in the hall fuelling it. gb news has suspended two of its presenters, dan wootton and laurence fox, following disparaging comments on air about a female journalist. wootton has apologised for not intervening while fox made the remarks. labour has dropped plans to end charitable status for private schools, which exempts some of them in england and wales from taxes. sir keir starmer had previously said the status could not be justified. our chief political correspondent

henry zeffman is in westminster. henry, this is quite a u—turn, isn't it? but we are getting a sense from both parties about where they are planting their feet policy wise. it planting their feet policy wise. if is a funny story, naga, because it is a funny story, naga, because it is simultaneously a u—turn and not a u—turn. let me explain. it has been labour policy for a long time that they want private schools to face in vat on their school fees, and they say they would use that money to fund teachers in the state sector. that's very controversial policy with some people, private schools where it would force some of them to close, it would force parents into the state sector and ultimately it would be a bad thing in the long run. all of that remains the case. but when labour talked about that policy in the past, what they said was that they were going to achieve those tax changes by ending charitable status for private

schools. now they say that that was shorthand for not ending charitable status for private schools, slightly funny shorthand. but there you go. what's interesting here is this the labour party preparing for government. there are lots of pledges that they have made in the past which are now going to have to make contact with the plausible reality that labour could win the next general election and i suspect this is how this policy has changed. the labour party is looking at, in the practical effect, how they would have achieved the changes on vat on private school fees that they want to achieve. that's the interesting question, what else is lurking in labour's policy cabinet which might have to be changed before they arrive at the next general election. you will be keeping an eye, thank you very much, henry. a us soldier who crossed into north korea two months ago is back in american custody. 23—year—old travis king, who had been stationed in south korea, where he was facing disciplinary

charges, is said to be in good health, and on his way home. a nasa astronaut and two russian cosmonauts have returned to earth after being stuck in space for six months longer than planned. the trio spent 371 days in orbit after their spacecraft sprang a leak while it was docked to the international space station and they had to wait for a spare. it brought up lots of questions, really. because you say everything is fast in space, it's obviously not, is it? if you wait six months for a spare part. i not, is it? if you wait six months for a spare part-— not, is it? if you wait six months. for a spare part._ those for a spare part. i suppose. those are proper— for a spare part. i suppose. those are proper logistics _ for a spare part. i suppose. those are proper logistics issues. i for a spare part. i suppose. those are proper logistics issues. you i are proper logistics issues. you need to check— are proper logistics issues. you need to check it _ are proper logistics issues. you need to check it is _ are proper logistics issues. mu. need to check it is the right one, you don't want to get it there and find it's wrong.— you don't want to get it there and find it's wrong. imagine you get it u . find it's wrong. imagine you get it u- there, find it's wrong. imagine you get it up there. no. _ find it's wrong. imagine you get it up there, no, doesn't _ find it's wrong. imagine you get it up there, no, doesn't it! - find it's wrong. imagine you get it up there, no, doesn't it! you i find it's wrong. imagine you get it| up there, no, doesn't it! you have to go back! —— no, it doesn't fit!

matt is never wrong with the weather. last night there was talk of a storm, how big it was going to be, and how did it turn out? it was still pretty stormy, but luckily for us it peaked before it hit our shores. in the south—west they had the strongest of the wind, this was a cross irish sea coasts, north west wales, justin —— just inland me so 84 miles an hour gusts. we did have some travel impact on the ferries. but it is all clearing away, the swirl of cloud here is storm agnes moving north. we have got cloud approaching from the south—west but we are in a window between the two. there will be varying amounts of cloud today, some sunny spells but where you see the sunshine it could be hazy. a few light showers in the west, most

places dry, still a bit blustery but wind swell down on what many of you saw yesterday especially in the west. later in the day we start to see more in the way of rain push in the. before it arrives, temperatures 17 to 20 degrees, not sure where we —— not far from where we should be at this stage. this evening, heavy rain working its way through, outbreaks of rain will start to develop more widely across parts of western england and wales. this will become heavier as we go through the night. a short spell of intense rain and gusty winds before we see clearer skies later on to take us through tomorrow morning. not dropping a huge amount towards the far south—east corner, temperatures elsewhere high teens and into ten to 12 celsius. the worst of the rain tends to be by night, by day as we head into the weekend there should be dry weather to make use of.

the energy price cap, which controls what most households pay for energy, is set to fall from sunday. which is good news but it doesn't cover the whole bill. standing charges have been going up, but the regulator ofgem has told breakfast about some planned changes to the system. ben, tell us more. there are very few stories which engage people the way this does, about the iniquities, number one how much our bills are, but then what is going to be changing. we much our bills are, but then what is going to be changing.— much our bills are, but then what is going to be changing. we spoke about it half on error— going to be changing. we spoke about it half on error go _ going to be changing. we spoke about it half on error go and _ going to be changing. we spoke about it half on error go and the _ going to be changing. we spoke about it half on error go and the inbox i going to be changing. we spoke about it half on error go and the inbox is i it half on error go and the inbox is heaving and the whatsapps have been coming in. people feel extremely strong about because you cannot affect it, you cannot bring down standing charges, they are fixed no matter how much energy use you have. let me give you a sample of some of the comments. julian says his mother—in—law in her 80s only uses her gas hub for cooking, still has a

standing charge of £300 for a year. when you put petrol in your car you don't pay extra for using the pump, gas and electric infrastructure charges, just build it into the unit charges, just build it into the unit charges based on how much you use. james likens it to buy clothes, you buy a dress or a coach, you don't get charged for the hanger if it goes back on the shelf for another item. he suggests adding an extra penny to the unit charge of the energy you consume so that you can bring the cost down. paul in durham says his standing charge for electricity has doubled in two years. he wants to know, why does the price of gas and electricity affect the standing charge? when it is all about the infrastructure used to get the in your home? and why does the standing charge vary so much by region? he has hit on something there. the average standing charge varies from an

average of £236 per year in london to over 300 in the north west l mersey region. to over 300 in the north west l mersey region-— to over 300 in the north west l mersey region. those are all very aood mersey region. those are all very good points- _ mersey region. those are all very good points. some _ mersey region. those are all very good points. some of— mersey region. those are all very good points. some of it - mersey region. those are all very good points. some of it is - mersey region. those are all very i good points. some of it is common sense, and it doesn't seem fair. a lot of people want to know, could anything change? what is the time frame, what are we talking about? we frame, what are we talking about? e know that ofcom. .. frame, what are we talking about? we know that ofcom. .. sorry, _ frame, what are we talking about? we know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! i know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! yes, know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! yes. ofgem! _ know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! yes, ofgem! they _ know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! yes, ofgem! they are _ know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! yes, ofgem! they are carrying i know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! yes, ofgem! they are carrying out| know that ofcom. .. sorry, ofgem! | yes, ofgem! they are carrying out a review. that review will be complete by the end of the year. we review. that review will be complete by the end of the year.— by the end of the year. we have had another update, _ by the end of the year. we have had another update, it _ by the end of the year. we have had another update, it might _ by the end of the year. we have had another update, it might be - by the end of the year. we have had another update, it might be within l another update, it might be within weeks. we will have to keep in close eye because the pressure is building, people are annoyed at getting in touch and chatting about it. �* , ., , it. and they are struggling. absolutely. _ it. and they are struggling. absolutely. thank - it. and they are struggling. absolutely. thank you. i a bbc investigation has found that police officers are widely misusing their body—worn cameras by switching them off when force is used, and deleting or not disclosing footage. some of the misuse came to light in the case of a brother and sister who were arrested during a protest in london. the national police chiefs' council

said the majority of body worn video highlights good policing. our investigations correspondent noel titheradge has the story. black lives matter, all lives matter! three years ago, a black lives matter protest gathered outside downing street, attended by yufial on the left and his sister louisa on the right. the protest was initially peaceful. there was dancing. there were speeches. two hours and that peace was broken. a clash quickly escalated, leading to louisa's restraint. shouting. i completely blacked out, i couldn't breathe. get your arm out now! i was telling the officer, like, help me get my hand. and he continued to rub my face in the ground and kneel on me. if you do not move your arm out, i will inflict pain, 0k?

the siblings were arrested and charged. accused of assaulting an officer in yufial�*s case and being threatening or abusive in louisa's. now bbc analysis of multiple body worn videos shown for the first time reveals the force used on the siblings themselves. i was punched in the face. my sister was pushed and then we got charged with assault even though we were assaulted. we've examined how the incidents unfolded in little over a minute across multiple cameras. watch here as louisa is pushed backwards by an officer's right hand on her neck and left hand on her chest. just five seconds later, in the far left corner of the screen, a different body worn camera shows yufial being struck by an officer who was then pulled backwards by colleagues. moments later and having removed herself from the front of the protest to search for her car keys, louisa is restrained by a group of officers. screaming. compliance, 0k?

if you do not move your arm out, i will inflict pain, 0k? i literally thought i was going to die. you're 0k. i blacked out. i've got your head, you're 0k. despite what they experienced and the charges they were facing, body worn video revealing officers' use of force wasn't initially disclosed to either of them as part of their cases. it was very weird because the evidence that benefited me was put in his case and the evidence that was benefiting him was put in my case. without us getting the evidence from each of our cases we probably wouldn't be in the situation that we're in right now. looks terrified. this is really— worrying and shocking. and i think the fact that it's taken two and a half years for anybody. to get to the bottom of what's happened means it's- ruined their lives. baroness casey's review into the met found that the force lacks accountability and transparency. i think the way many police officers

consider body worn video is that i it's almost to cover the back of the police _ we all know that arresting people is difficult, - but if you've got nothing to hide, release the video, _ release the information, - be transparent and be honest. louisa deferred starting a law degree for three years, fearing a prosecution. the siblings were eventually acquitted, but both say their two year legalfight had a big impact on their lives. i was working in a retail store in westminster. i lost myjob because they barred me from the area. i was accused of something and i could have spent time away from my family, my daughter, everything that i love, for malicious lies. the bbc has also learned that body worn video wasn't disclosed from the camera of the officer who pushed louisa. in a statement, the force told us there were errors with disclosure of evidence and apologised. no action has been taken against any of the officers involved. cameras are only being put on when officers feel like it's necessary or they're being targeted.

it's labelled as protection for the public, but ultimately it protects the police. the home office told the bbc that police forces should hold officers accountable to standards and use of cameras must be justified. noel titheradge, bbc news. bosses at the retail chain h&m have promised to make the sizing of their clothing more consistent after shoppers complained that it can vary between ranges. if you're trying clothes on in store, that can be slightly annoying and time consuming. but if you order them online, it can actually cost you money. that's because h&m is the latest retailer to introduce return fees, which mean customers must now pay £1.99 to return some items bought online. the shop says it will still be free to return parcels in store, but there will be a charge for using services like evri and royal mail. other retailers like zara, boohoo and next already charge

for some items returned via couriers, with the cost deducted from customers' refund. we're joined now by the retail analyst catherine shuttleworth. good morning to you. are we right to be annoyed by this? i good morning to you. are we right to be annoyed by this?— be annoyed by this? i think it is uuite be annoyed by this? i think it is quite frustrating _ be annoyed by this? i think it is quite frustrating as _ be annoyed by this? i think it is quite frustrating as a _ be annoyed by this? i think it is quite frustrating as a shopper, | be annoyed by this? i think it is i quite frustrating as a shopper, you buy things and if they don't fit you or you don't like them, you want to send them back and we have become completely used to doing all of that for free. completely used to doing all of that forfree. but completely used to doing all of that for free. but there completely used to doing all of that forfree. but there is completely used to doing all of that for free. but there is a completely used to doing all of that forfree. but there is a huge completely used to doing all of that for free. but there is a huge cost to business in that, £7 billion per year, the cost of returns so you can see why retailers are trying to grow some of it back.— some of it back. often you will alwa s some of it back. often you will always have — some of it back. often you will always have a _ some of it back. often you will always have a return _ some of it back. often you will always have a return because l some of it back. often you will| always have a return because if some of it back. often you will- always have a return because if you buy online, say you think you are a certain size and you look and you 90, certain size and you look and you go, i think they come up small, or big, i will order a couple of sizes or even three, so you will always be returning something. fir or even three, so you will always be returning something.— returning something. or you will have that buyers' _ returning something. or you will have that buyers' remorse i returning something. or you will have that buyers' remorse and i returning something. or you will i have that buyers' remorse and think, i have bought too much, and send it

back. because of sizes are inconsistent, you buy three sizes most of us and some of them have got to go back so that is quite normal behaviour for to go back so that is quite normal behaviourfor shoppers. to go back so that is quite normal behaviour for shoppers. because to go back so that is quite normal behaviourfor shoppers. because it costs us nothing to send it back, we have got used to that. haifa costs us nothing to send it back, we have got used to that.— costs us nothing to send it back, we have got used to that. how can sizes be inconsistent? _ have got used to that. how can sizes be inconsistent? a _ have got used to that. how can sizes be inconsistent? a waist _ have got used to that. how can sizes i be inconsistent? a waist measurement is a waist_ be inconsistent? a waist measurement is a waist measurement, isn't it? it is a waist measurement, isn't it? [11 is a waist measurement, isn't it? [11 is but is a waist measurement, isn't it? is but that is a waist measurement, isn't it? if is but that doesn't necessarily mean that the material that you get in a pair of trousers or skirt is the same. lots of retailers has different manufacturers who make things to slightly different sizes and their quality control needs to be really looked after. i think what happened a lot in the lockdown, we bide loads of things with elasticated waists, and we are now back into structured suits and sizes are not what we are expecting. the one thing we _ are not what we are expecting. the one thing we are not hearing as h&m in this_ one thing we are not hearing as h&m in this instance and we mentioned the others — in this instance and we mentioned the others who are charging, we aren't— the others who are charging, we aren't hearing that they are going to rethink— aren't hearing that they are going to rethink this policy. so this charge — to rethink this policy. so this charge is_ to rethink this policy. so this charge is going to exist. they are not talking — charge is going to exist. they are not talking about changing the

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shops, particularly retailers with fast fashion rely on, people picking up fast fashion rely on, people picking up on trends and buying quickly. they hope it will not be the case, i think i imagine they will do special offers where returns are free and they will use it as a promotional mechanic. we do need to think about sustainability. shoppers are interested in that and there is a cost of buying stuff online and we have got to think it through in terms of sending it back. there is a sustainability _ terms of sending it back. there is a sustainability question _ terms of sending it back. there is a sustainability question as _ terms of sending it back. there is a sustainability question as well, i terms of sending it back. there is a sustainability question as well, you j sustainability question as well, you don't want people travelling unnecessarily and if it can be more economically and environmentally friendly driven, with electric vehicles being used by carriers, etc, it's difficult to figure out how best to shop. it etc, it's difficult to figure out how best to shop.— etc, it's difficult to figure out how best to shop. it is a very fine balance. ultimately _ how best to shop. it is a very fine balance. ultimately retailers i how best to shop. it is a very fine | balance. ultimately retailers want us to spend money with them and not their competitors. they can get us to go back for free to the shop, we might pick up something there, and we are using our own petrol or electric vehicles to get there.

people might say from the outside on a business _ people might say from the outside on a business sense, we have had a good for a very— a business sense, we have had a good for a very long time not having to pay and _ for a very long time not having to pay and lo— for a very long time not having to pay and lo and behold that had to end _ pay and lo and behold that had to end it _ pay and lo and behold that had to end it can— pay and lo and behold that had to end. it can carry on.| pay and lo and behold that had to end. it can carry on.— end. it can carry on. i think that is true. end. it can carry on. i think that is true- -- _ end. it can carry on. i think that is true- -- it— end. it can carry on. i think that is true. -- it could _ end. it can carry on. i think that is true. -- it could not - end. it can carry on. i think that is true. -- it could not carry i end. it can carry on. i think that is true. -- it could not carry on. end. it can carry on. i think that. is true. -- it could not carry on. i think that — is true. -- it could not carry on. i think that is _ is true. -- it could not carry on. i think that is true _ is true. -- it could not carry on. i think that is true but _ is true. -- it could not carry on. i think that is true but we - is true. -- it could not carry on. i think that is true but we have i is true. -- it could not carry on. i i think that is true but we have been brought up at it, online shopping was always free delivery and free returns and we have been used to it, will we go back to the high street if we have to pay for something which was free before? we will see how it plays out. which was free before? we will see how it plays out-— how it plays out. here's a suggestion. _ how it plays out. here's a suggestion, why - how it plays out. here's a suggestion, why don't i how it plays out. here's a suggestion, why don't all| how it plays out. here's a i suggestion, why don't all of the retailers have the same size except people know what that is going to happen and they get. that people know what that is going to happen and they get.— people know what that is going to happen and they get. that is a real challen . e, happen and they get. that is a real challenge, businesses _ happen and they get. that is a real challenge, businesses like - happen and they get. that is a real challenge, businesses like m&s i happen and they get. that is a real. challenge, businesses like m&s work very hard, they base all of their clothing on a five foot six woman, you can buy short or long skirts, they have 16 trouser sizes. people don't want returns —— retailers don't want returns —— retailers don't want returns —— retailers don't want returns, so when people return things they put them into the

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about the fatal stabbing of a 15—year—old girl who was on her way to school yesterday morning. she had just got off a bus outside the whitgift centre when she was attacked. it's thought the boy, who remains in police custody, may have known her. she is the 15th teenager — and the first girl — to be killed from knife crime in london this year. there's been a big rise in the number of foreign students choosing to study here in london. since 2016, they have grown by 59%, with many now saying they're stuggling to find accommodation due to the rental crisis. organisations including the national union of students are calling for more affordable places for students to live. some universities are expanding at a rate much higher than the local housing stock can deal with. so they're not building at that rate or, even if they are, they might be building really expensive accommodation, or, on the other hand, the private rental market can't keep up with it, especially in areas like london and the south east. a government spokesperson said,

"attracting students internationally is good for our universities and we encourage them and private accommodation providers to consider their needs and support them accordingly." a number of local authorities around london are due to get part of an £80 million investment to help improve their bus services. councils including essex, hertfordshire and buckinghamshire will benefit from the funding as part of the bus service improvement plan. the money could be used to extend timetables, reduce fares, or roll out new routes. rail passengers travelling to and from gatwick airport are being advised to find alternative transport during the next planned rail strikes this saturday. a shuttle bus will operate between gatwick and london victoria only. there's industrial action planned for saturday and then again on the 4th october. let's take a look at the tubes. there's minor delays

on the metropolitan line — otherwise a good service. now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's another mild start this morning. still breezy, today, as well, but slightly lighter than yesterday — the wind a moderate south—westerly. sunny spells, but also the chance of a few light showers. any sunshine this morning fairly hazy. we have some high cloud. the cloud will thicken through the afternoon. it is then we could see one or two light showers developing. maximum temperature, though, still reasonably mild at around 20 celsius. overnight tonight, the cloud will continue to thicken. we will get some spells of rain. could get a heavier burst into the early hours of tomorrow morning. minimum temperature, again it is going to be mild, around 13 celsius. that rain will clear through friday. a ridge of high pressure starts to build, so once any cloud and rain from the south—east move out of the way, we have dry and sunny conditions. a bit of fair weather cloud and temperatures getting up to around 21 celsius. as we head into the weekend, fine and dry for saturday. 1st of october, of course, on sunday and we could see

temperatures at 23 celsius. that's it for now. i'll be back in half an hour hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. we are talking about a major report on nature _ we are talking about a major report on nature by— we are talking about a major report on nature by 60 _ we are talking about a major report on nature by 60 wildlife _ we are talking about a major report on nature by 60 wildlife charities i on nature by 60 wildlife charities on nature by 60 wildlife charities on the _ on nature by 60 wildlife charities on the state _ on nature by 60 wildlife charities on the state of _ on nature by 60 wildlife charities on the state of the _ on nature by 60 wildlife charities on the state of the uk's - on nature by 60 wildlife charities on the state of the uk's naturali on the state of the uk's natural habitat — their state of nature report says some of our most precious animals and plants are under threat from extinction. let's see some of the details. more than 150 species — such as the european wolf — already been extinct for many years. disappeared. almost 1,500 species are now threatened with extinction, including some dormice. flowering plants are now only found in half the places they were 50 years ago, with varieties such as heather and harebell in short supply. 13 species of seabirds,

like the puffin, are down by a quarter across the uk, and it's even worse in scotland where they've fallen by half — and that's before the impact of bird flu. however, there are success stories from conservation efforts. more than 200 bitterns, which are a type of heron, are now booming in parts of the uk, and the grey seal population is growing, as they're no longer being widely hunted. our science correspondent helen briggs has been to the south downs national park to hear more about some of the work being done to bring wildlife back. squish it down. it's amazing how much we've got already. yeah, it's really good, isn't it? yeah, look at all that. nature's in trouble, but people want to lend a helping hand. and here on the south coast, schoolchildren from the city are clearing brambles from a particularly rare and special habitat. this is some of the most special habitat we've got within the south downs. it's super—great habitat for biodiversity, but it needs looking after. so that's why the work that these guys are doing is so important,

because it stops it from scrubbing over and means that we can keep that really rich species diversity. the charity action for conservation runs conservation camps for young people to inspire them to care for nature. do you feel you can make your difference, do your little bit for nature? i feel like every little bit makes a difference, you know, so everyone can make a difference no matter how small. if everyone does one small act, the work to help nature, nature will really thrive, it will be a lot better. it makes me feel good, i because i know that i can do something for the environment and notjust sit there and say, i oh, this is really bad. the report says nature is continuing to decline. with one in six species at risk of being lost — from majestic seabirds to tiny water voles. many of our woodlands, peatlands and other important habitats are in a poor condition and, with new targets in place to protect 30% of land and sea by 2030, there's pressure on national

parks to do more. we've shown here in the south downs that nature is far stronger than any attempt we might make to hold it back. it needs half a chance. here in the south downs, we've shown the way to give it its head. with that and with government support, we can definitely hit those targets and exceed them, because nature and this landscape deserves nothing less. the report's authors say we've never had a better understanding of how to fix nature. but with wildlife disappearing at an alarming rate, action is needed on a much bigger scale. helen briggs, bbc news, in the south downs. we're joined now by beccy speight, the head of the royal society for the protection of birds. good morning. this massive report, really comprehensive, let's start with your overall impression. overall, i would say the report

shows that the decline is not stopping. it is really carrying on. this is the fourth in a decade we have done, 10,000 species looked at, thousands of volunteers put data into this and decline shows no sign of stopping. but it also shows, this report, that we know what we have to do to turn it around. we do have successes, wejust do to turn it around. we do have successes, we just need to do it faster and on a bigger scale. but it is a seminal report. it is scientific evidence of what is happening to the natural world. you are from the — happening to the natural world. you are from the angle of birds, but which hit, which part of this report concerns you the most? is it the birds, certain plants, we saw that grey seals are improving in numbers. there are differences between species. we look at three big things. abundance. how many

individuals are we seeing in the uk? on average, across all species, we have a 19% decline in abundance, a loss of those individuals. we also look at distribution. where do you see these things? that is where you see these things? that is where you see frightening statistics around flowering plants, things like lichen. and you can see on average, a reduction of 50% in places, seeing them in fewer places, and then there is the risk of extinction. such is the turtledove. you can hear it purring in the summer particularly in the south—east of england. the water bowl which ratty was based on in wind in the willows. one in six species at risk of extinction and those things are sources of concern. we showed pictures of seabirds. you

can talk me through this. 13 species of seabirds down by a quarter, in scotland by half. it is of seabirds down by a quarter, in scotland by half.— scotland by half. it is a real decline. — scotland by half. it is a real decline, frightening - scotland by half. it is a real decline, frightening declinej scotland by half. it is a real. decline, frightening decline in scotland by half. it is a real- decline, frightening decline in the number of seabirds. these figures were gathered before the impact of avian flu and so we know the impact that has had on some seabirds, particularly those in shetland. arctic skuas. i went up to shetland recently. we think the population is down by a lot which is bird flu. but these stats were before the impact of bird flu and before it was really felt. seabirds are particularly suffering. that is climate change, a big driverfor these suffering. that is climate change, a big driver for these statistics. seabirds, a loss of food. for

example, sand eels, they are an important source of food for seabirds and we are worried about overfishing of those.— seabirds and we are worried about overfishing of those. when we have exerts overfishing of those. when we have experts talking _ overfishing of those. when we have experts talking about _ overfishing of those. when we have experts talking about these - overfishing of those. when we have experts talking about these things, | experts talking about these things, it sounds frightening and worrying and people think, what can i do? maybe they do not have a garden. what do i do to make things better? we have some big drivers such as climate change, intensification of agriculture, we have intensified how we farmed food in the past 50 years. the way in which we fish, are we doing it sustainably? and marine development, particularly offshore wind at the moment. this is big scale. please look after wildlife in your garden if you are lucky enough to have one, but this is scale and urgency. to have one, but this is scale and urren . �* ., to have one, but this is scale and urren . ~ ., , ., to have one, but this is scale and urren .~ ., _ , urgency. and what you buy, fish? absolutely- _ urgency. and what you buy, fish? absolutely. we _ urgency. and what you buy, fish? absolutely. we need _ urgency. and what you buy, fish? absolutely. we need businessesl urgency. and what you buy, fish? i absolutely. we need businesses to do the right thing. how you consume

makes a difference in the terms of how businesses feel pressure. but we need government to put the right policies and funding in place to drive change with urgency needed. are you hearing any of that? policy is worrying. we have seen things like rosebank yesterday. an announcement in the slowdown of putting in place biodiversity net gain which make sure developers do the right thing around nature. the policy needs to be put in place faster and implemented well. it needs to be got on with because there are huge delays and we feel they are going in the wrong direction. it they are going in the wrong direction-— they are going in the wrong direction. , ., , ., , direction. it shows, when there has been wildlife _ direction. it shows, when there has been wildlife conservation - direction. it shows, when there has been wildlife conservation action, l been wildlife conservation action, it makes a positive impact.- it makes a positive impact. there are success _ it makes a positive impact. there are success stories. _ it makes a positive impact. there are success stories. we - it makes a positive impact. there are success stories. we know- it makes a positive impact. there l are success stories. we know what it makes a positive impact. there - are success stories. we know what we need to do. what people need to do is use their voice and consumer power to push businesses and government to do the right thing to

get this turned around. the government to do the right thing to get this turned around.— get this turned around. the chief executive of _ get this turned around. the chief executive of the _ get this turned around. the chief executive of the rspb, _ get this turned around. the chief executive of the rspb, thank - get this turned around. the chief. executive of the rspb, thank you. are we starting the sport with a team photo? i am saving that till last. the european team on the spanish steps. first. newcastle united have made a real statement in their quest for a trophy. knocking manchester city out of the league cup, as they aim to go one better than last season. they were beaten finalists back in february, and thanks to this goal from alexander isak, they will now face the team that beat them in the final, manchester united, in the fourth round. as for city, it's a first defeat of the season, and they can point to a much changed line up. erling haaland for instance had a night on the subs bench. but newcastle will certainly have belief now. the pick of last night's goals, came at anfield — a stunner

from dominik szoboszlai as liverpool came from behind to beat championship leaders leicester. that was still rising as it hit the net. incredibly he's still not sure if that rocket was his best ever though. and relief for chelsea who finally managed a win against brighton. nicolas jackson's finish ending a run of three games without a goal for them. for a roundup of results and the fourth round draw, visit the bbc sport website. the draw for the scottish league cup semi—finals also took place last night, and hearts will take on rangers, while hibernian will host aberdeen. ridvan yilmaz scored the goal of the night as rangers eased past livingstone 4—0 at ibrox in one of three quarterfinals on the night. elsewhere, hibs beat st mirren 14—2, while aberdeen overcame ross county 2—1. to the rugby world cup, where success at last for uruguay, who beat namibia 36—26 in lyon for theirfirst pool win. two early tries put namibia

in control at half—time, but uruguay responded in the second half to deny the african nation a first win in the competition. one game to come later today, asjapan play samoa in england's group. now when in rome, make sure you visit the spanish steps. this is the photograph. europe's ryder cup team last night. ludvig aberg with the smile of the day. rory mcilroy took the photo, it was his selfie. aberg turn pro three months ago and says it is a dream come true. this time tomorrow, their roman quest to conquer the usa team will be under way. and the sport needs this. with so much talk about money in the sport and the breakaway liv golf series. not a single euro will be competed for over the next few days. it's all about history and sporting pride. our correspondent andy swiss looks is in the italian capital looking at what we can expect.

relaxed, ready and raring to go. the european team have been all smiles this week, whether it's posing or practising. but the ryder cup can stir the emotions like little else. just ask rory mcilroy, who revealed he'd already been moved to tears by a message from his caddie and lifelong friend. we all got a personal video message on monday night and harry did my one and just sort of bringing us through ourjourney from when we were kids at hollywood golf club, when we were seven years old on the putting greens. and now, you know, we're sort of doing our third ryder cup together. and, you know, the other guys got messages that meantjust as much to them and there were a lot of tears shed. two years ago, mcilroy was in tears for different reasons, after the us cruised to victory in wisconsin. but here, europe have new stars like sweden's ludwig aberg, who, remarkably, has onlyjust turned professional, and bob macintyre, who's been showing off his ryder cup pyjamas.

but, most crucially, they have home advantage. rome is ready to roar. it's really buzzing. you can see there's lots of whoops and all sorts of stuff everywhere — it's brilliant. the europe team play in europe. you know, they are playing gorgeous. so, you know, quite confident. how confident are you feeling about europe's chances? very confident, yeah. i think america will be lucky to finish second. well, having the fans behind you counts for a lot at the ryder cup. in fact, europe haven't lost on home soil for 30 years. but they know extending that record won't be easy. right behind you, brooks. america has three of this year's four major winners, including brooks koepka, and their fans who have flown here aren't lacking confidence. are us going to win? yes. yes, you heard it here first. are you going to make yourselves heard? oh, that's the plan. these are just the warm—up outfits.

we've got even better gear coming on friday. the crowds here have already enjoyed a celebrity event starring novak djokovic, who eventually swapped his tennis racket for a golf club. fun and games, so far, but soon it's down to serious business. andy swiss, bbc news, rome. i love the fact that as the home team europe can design a course to suit them so they have long rough. what they cannot control is the weather. it looks all right. someone might know. do you know anybody? i actually do not know anyone who might know really well. he is only a yards away! as the nights are drawing in, scenes like this nifty. this is the scene in rome a couple of days ago and there is more to come. a cracking few days

in rome to come. temperatures will climb into the high 20s and with just a gentle wind, it will be very pleasant. i seem to be having issues with my clicker. it is not moving on. let me grab another one. just jump on. let me grab another one. just jump out of the way and we will see if that moves it on. no, nothing is moving. rome will be fine. a lot of sunshine here over the next days. they have high pressure in the central mediterranean whereas here, we have low pressure which brought store magnus yesterday which is moving away. we have low pressure tonight but in between today, fine for many with sunny spells in eastern areas with more cloud in the west with some showers. breezy, temperatures 17—20. this evening and overnight, heavy rain starts to push

in from the west. the next few days looking driver for many. in from the west. the next few days looking driverfor many. on friday, overnight rain saturday into sunday but otherwise, we will not have blue skies we have in rome but it is looking decent. i love how everything is in your head. it is all there, just not behind me. it is all there, just not behind me. it is all there, just not behind me. it is better thanjust it is all there, just not behind me. it is better than just pictures. that is a picture of what is not happening in the uk. it is happening for the ryder cup. add some cloud, showers and knock the numbers down quite a bit here. mike is good with technology. let him have a go with your thing. do not let mike near your screen. strictly come dancing is up and running for a new series.

we'll be joined in the studio by two people who already are making waves. jody cundy has bagged multiple paralympic gold medals for swimming and cycling and his professional partnerjowita przystal picked up the strictly glitterball last year. let's see them doing the quickstep on saturday. # i am sitting on top of the world. # just strolling along, just strolling along. i # and i am quitting. the blues of the world. # just singing a song, just singing a song. i # glory, hallelujah, - ijust phoned the parson # hey, par, get ready to call. # just like humpty dumpty, i'm going to fall. _ # i am sitting on top of the world. # just rolling along, just rolling along. i

# glory, hallelujah, - ijust phoned the parson # hey, par, get ready to call. # just like humpty dumpty, i'm going to fall. _ # i am sitting on top of the world. jody and jowita join us now. good morning. just share with us what you were just talking about. we were saying it look so graceful and nothing going wrong. i was were saying it look so graceful and nothing going wrong.— nothing going wrong. i was 'ust sa inc nothing going wrong. i was 'ust saying sometimes, i nothing going wrong. i was 'ust saying sometimes, when k nothing going wrong. i wasjust saying sometimes, when we i nothing going wrong. i wasjust - saying sometimes, when we rehearse, and we are dancing, and jodie is just learning how to dance, sometimes things happen and he steps on me and it is fine because my face goes like this. and jody asked me, are you ok? goes like this. and jody asked me, are you 0k?— are you 0k? and i am like... it is like my foot _ are you 0k? and i am like... it is like my foot felt _ are you 0k? and i am like... it is

like my foot felt different, - are you 0k? and i am like... it is like my foot felt different, was i are you 0k? and i am like... it is like my foot felt different, was it | like my foot felt different, was it you i_ like my foot felt different, was it you i stood on?— you i stood on? you will have to exlain you i stood on? you will have to exolain this- _ you i stood on? you will have to explain this. which _ you i stood on? you will have to explain this. which foot? - you i stood on? you will have to explain this. which foot? my - explain this. which foot? my prosthetic — explain this. which foot? my prosthetic legs. i can tell i am touching — prosthetic legs. i can tell i am touching the floor but if it is something different, it is a different sensation.- something different, it is a different sensation. even with the rosthetic different sensation. even with the prosthetic being _ different sensation. even with the prosthetic being hard, _ different sensation. even with the prosthetic being hard, you - different sensation. even with the prosthetic being hard, you feel. different sensation. even with the | prosthetic being hard, you feel the vibrations into your leg? yes. prosthetic being hard, you feel the vibrations into your leg?— vibrations into your leg? yes. i have a sensation _ vibrations into your leg? yes. i have a sensation of _ vibrations into your leg? yes. i have a sensation of stuff - vibrations into your leg? yes. i have a sensation of stuff going| vibrations into your leg? yes. i - have a sensation of stuff going on. if i stood _ have a sensation of stuff going on. if i stood on— have a sensation of stuff going on. if i stood on her foot, that felt different _ if i stood on her foot, that felt different. �* ., ., ~' if i stood on her foot, that felt different-— if i stood on her foot, that felt different. �* ., different. and i look at her face. i do not want _ different. and i look at her face. i do not want to _ different. and i look at her face. i do not want to dwell _ different. and i look at her face. i do not want to dwell on _ different. and i look at her face. i do not want to dwell on the - different. and i look at her face. i do not want to dwell on the fact l do not want to dwell on the fact jodyis do not want to dwell on the fact jody is stepping on the foot. does it hurt more _ jody is stepping on the foot. does it hurt more than _ jody is stepping on the foot. does it hurt more than the _ jody is stepping on the foot. pr: it hurt more than the other foot? absolutely. that is why he knows when he steps on with that foot because my face does this. and then he is like, are you ok? yes, i am fine, continue! he is like, are you 0k? yes, i am fine, continue!—

he is like, are you 0k? yes, i am fine, continue! jody, you have had amazin: fine, continue! jody, you have had amazing success _ fine, continue! jody, you have had amazing success at _ fine, continue! jody, you have had amazing success at the _ fine, continue! jody, you have had l amazing success at the paralympics. i have done all right, haven't i? how— i have done all right, haven't i? how does — i have done all right, haven't i? how does this challenge in terms of the training, how do we compare and contrast? the the training, how do we compare and contrast? .. , contrast? the training side, physically. _ contrast? the training side, physically. i _ contrast? the training side, physically, i have _ contrast? the training side, physically, i have found - contrast? the training side, | physically, i have found that contrast? the training side, . physically, i have found that all right _ physically, i have found that all right the — physically, i have found that all right. the mental part is getting me. learning steps, constant repeating — me. learning steps, constant repeating stuff. i cannot get my left leg — repeating stuff. i cannot get my left leg and right leg to do what my brain is— left leg and right leg to do what my brain is telling me and jowita is telling — brain is telling me and jowita is telling me and that is taxing. i am sweating, — telling me and that is taxing. i am sweating, i— telling me and that is taxing. i am sweating, i do not know from the physical— sweating, i do not know from the physical activity or my brain is overloading.— physical activity or my brain is overloading. you will not be the first person _ overloading. you will not be the first person who _ overloading. you will not be the first person who has _ overloading. you will not be the first person who has had - overloading. you will not be the first person who has had those. first person who has had those problems?— first person who has had those roblems? ~ , , i. ~' problems? absolutely. if you think about it, problems? absolutely. if you think about it. we _ problems? absolutely. if you think about it, we throw— problems? absolutely. if you think about it, we throw somebody - problems? absolutely. if you think about it, we throw somebody who | problems? absolutely. if you think i about it, we throw somebody who has never danced before into the room, telling the person you have four days to learn the routine, to perfect it and perform it in front of millions. it is a big challenge.

it is stressful. jody is a perfectionist. he does not want to let me down, does not want to let himself down and his family, so he always wants to do the best. if you are not getting the step right straightaway, he is going oh! i am, it's ok. i straightaway, he is going oh! i am, it's 0k- i hear— straightaway, he is going oh! i am, it's ok. i hear again _ straightaway, he is going oh! i am, it's ok. i hear again and _ straightaway, he is going oh! i am, it's ok. i hear again and one - straightaway, he is going oh! i am, it's ok. i hear again and one more| it's ok. i hear again and one more time _ it's ok. i hear again and one more time it— it's ok. i hear again and one more time it is— it's ok. i hear again and one more time. it is literally over and over again _ time. it is literally over and over again |— time. it is literally over and over aaain. , time. it is literally over and over aaain. ., time. it is literally over and over aiain. ., , time. it is literally over and over aaain. , ., again. i say to jody, you need to trust the process _ again. i say to jody, you need to trust the process because - again. i say to jody, you need to trust the process because this i again. i say to jody, you need to i trust the process because this will come. maybe not today but it will come. maybe not today but it will come on saturday. ii come. maybe not today but it will come on saturday.— come. maybe not today but it will come on saturday. if there is anyone ou can come on saturday. if there is anyone you can trust — come on saturday. if there is anyone you can trust it _ come on saturday. if there is anyone you can trust it is _ come on saturday. if there is anyone you can trust it is a _ come on saturday. if there is anyone you can trust it is a winner. - come on saturday. if there is anyone you can trust it is a winner. first - you can trust it is a winner. first time on the show. she wins. she knows what _ time on the show. she wins. she knows what she _ time on the show. she wins. she knows what she is _ time on the show. she wins. she knows what she is doing. it - time on the show. she wins. she knows what she is doing. it is - knows what she is doing. it is robabl knows what she is doing. it is probably an _ knows what she is doing. it is probably an unfair _ knows what she is doing. it 3 probably an unfair question, how does he compare to how hamza was? i cannot compare them. they are two

different people and i will never do that. i say it is a new book, new page, and we are writing it together and there is no one else, it is just me and jody and i am focused onjody because ourjourney is just as together. because our 'ourney is 'ust as to . ether. , because our 'ourney is 'ust as togethenb because our 'ourney is 'ust as touether. , ., . ~ ., together. very diplomatic. although jod will together. very diplomatic. although jody will ask — together. very diplomatic. although jody will ask you _ together. very diplomatic. although jody will ask you over _ together. very diplomatic. although jody will ask you over and _ together. very diplomatic. although jody will ask you over and again. - jody will ask you over and again. you have done the quickstep, which is tough. apparently so. can you tell us what is coming up this week? this week is completely different. it is the paso doble a which is latin not boring.— latin not boring. you have to channel- _ latin not boring. you have to channel. the _ latin not boring. you have to| channel. the understatement latin not boring. you have to i channel. the understatement of latin not boring. you have to - channel. the understatement of the show, i have done all right. you need to channel because you have to have the arrogance and confidence. when you go into competition. can

you bring back to the dance floor? do you have that? i am looking for that everyday and there is none. he is just a humble and person. that everyday and there is none. he isjust a humble and person. i am not doubting _ isjust a humble and person. i am not doubting that, _ isjust a humble and person. i am not doubting that, but _ isjust a humble and person. i am not doubting that, but you cannot be a winning paralympian multiple times... ~ .. ., times... when i am racing i have ears of times... when i am racing i have years of performance _ times... when i am racing i have years of performance behind - times... when i am racing i have years of performance behind me | times... when i am racing i have - years of performance behind me and i know what _ years of performance behind me and i know what i _ years of performance behind me and i know what i am doing and howl years of performance behind me and i know what i am doing and how i will perform _ know what i am doing and how i will perform. with the dance, four days, not knowing — perform. with the dance, four days, not knowing if i am going left or right _ not knowing if i am going left or riuht. , ., , right. everyone is in the same situation- _ right. everyone is in the same situation. it _ right. everyone is in the same situation. it is _ right. everyone is in the same situation. it is a _ right. everyone is in the same situation. it is a competition. | right. everyone is in the same - situation. it is a competition. you put your competitive head on. it is a level playing field and i have a brilliant teacher, so i can easily complete. i brilliant teacher, so i can easily complete-— complete. i was not into the competitive _ complete. i was not into the competitive mood _ complete. i was not into the competitive mood until- complete. i was not into the competitive mood until we l complete. i was not into the l competitive mood until we did complete. i was not into the - competitive mood until we did the first dance. i kind of want to do good _ first dance. i kind of want to do good now _ first dance. i kind of want to do good now. nigel did an amazing paso doble _ good now. nigel did an amazing paso doble see _ good now. nigel did an amazing paso doble. see if we can pull it off

because — doble. see if we can pull it off because if we do it will be pretty good _ because if we do it will be pretty aood. ., ., ~' ., because if we do it will be pretty aood. ., ., ,. ., ., good. from what little i know about strictly come _ good. from what little i know about strictly come dancing, _ good. from what little i know about strictly come dancing, some - good. from what little i know about | strictly come dancing, some people are not used to performing. you are are not used to performing. you are a sport performer but theatrical performance, struggling with the face. which face to pull. this latter issue? _ face. which face to pull. this latter issue? at the - face. which face to pull. this latter issue? at the moment i only have _ latter issue? at the moment i only have one _ latter issue? at the moment i only have one face. the faces this. you don't _ have one face. the faces this. you don't know— have one face. the faces this. you don't know where you are going, do you? _ don't know where you are going, do ou? .. . ~ don't know where you are going, do ou? ., , ~ ., . you? that is i get. mid dance? mainly in _ you? that is i get. mid dance? mainly in the _ you? that is i get. mid dance? mainly in the studio. _ you? that is i get. mid dance? mainly in the studio. on - you? that is i get. mid dance? i mainly in the studio. on saturday night, i was so surprised. i saw him smiling and having the best time. i was ok, we have got this. and then i need to admit, this week, i have seen some boss face. boss face? he is bossy this week. i5 seen some boss face. boss face? he is bossy this week. is it seen some boss face. boss face? he is bossy this week.— is bossy this week. is it unfair to ask if we can _ is bossy this week. is it unfair to ask if we can see _

is bossy this week. is it unfair to ask if we can see the _ is bossy this week. is it unfair to ask if we can see the boss - is bossy this week. is it unfair to ask if we can see the boss face? i is bossy this week. is it unfair to l ask if we can see the boss face? i am not sure i can do it on demand. which— am not sure i can do it on demand. which camera, camera four. gk. am not sure i can do it on demand. which camera, camera four.- am not sure i can do it on demand. which camera, camera four. 0k. it is reall kind which camera, camera four. 0k. it is really kind of... _ which camera, camera four. 0k. it is really kind of... banana _ which camera, camera four. 0k. it is really kind of... banana shape. - which camera, camera four. 0k. it isj really kind of... banana shape. when the chest is — really kind of... banana shape. when the chest is out. _ really kind of... banana shape. when the chest is out. i _ really kind of... banana shape. when the chest is out. i said _ really kind of... banana shape. when the chest is out. i said this _ really kind of... banana shape. when the chest is out. i said this week, - the chest is out. i said this week, ou onl the chest is out. i said this week, you only eat _ the chest is out. i said this week, you only eat bananas. _ the chest is out. i said this week, you only eat bananas. breakfast, | you only eat bananas. breakfast, lunch, dinner, so you become a banana for the shape. if it works. you are used _ banana for the shape. if it works. you are used to _ banana for the shape. if it works. you are used to tough _ banana for the shape. if it works. you are used to tough regimes. l banana for the shape. if it works. i you are used to tough regimes. the stuff she has _ you are used to tough regimes. the stuff she has had me doing the past two weeks — stuff she has had me doing the past two weeks is definitely out there. it two weeks is definitely out there. it can— two weeks is definitely out there. it can be — two weeks is definitely out there. it can be an emotional curve. who do you have in the room watching? your famil ? you have in the room watching? your family? 0n — you have in the room watching? your family? 0n the _ you have in the room watching? your family? on the night? _ you have in the room watching? your family? on the night? last week it was my— family? on the night? last week it was my fiancee and her mother and, this week, _ was my fiancee and her mother and, this week, my brother and his partner~ — this week, my brother and his partner~ it _ this week, my brother and his partner. it was nice walking onto the stage — partner. it was nice walking onto the stage and sing them because it wasjust— the stage and sing them because it

wasjust like right, but then the stage and sing them because it was just like right, but then you switch _ was just like right, but then you switch off— was just like right, but then you switch off and go into race mode, game _ switch off and go into race mode, game mode. race mode. it is the same feeling _ game mode. race mode. it is the same feeling you _ game mode. race mode. it is the same feeling. you have the nerves like you do— feeling. you have the nerves like you do before a race. when i get in the gate, _ you do before a race. when i get in the gate, suddenly you go back to the gate, suddenly you go back to the training room and it was the same _ the training room and it was the same with— the training room and it was the same with the dance, nervous before we got _ same with the dance, nervous before we got there but then the music started — we got there but then the music started and you switch on to what you have — started and you switch on to what you have been doing in the dance. well done — you have been doing in the dance. well done. a little earlier, you did a little turn. well done. a little earlier, you did a little turn-— a little turn. first thing in the morning- _ a little turn. first thing in the morning- a — a little turn. first thing in the morning. a warm _ a little turn. first thing in the morning. a warm up - a little turn. first thing in the morning. a warm up before l a little turn. first thing in the - morning. a warm up before rehearsal. and you are balancing it with training. it is not easy. i wish you the best. coming up on breakfast — cressida cowell has been teaching us how to train our dragons for the last 20 years — and her best—selling books have become hits on both the big and small screens.

cressida will be joining us on the sofa. time for the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning, welcome to bbc london, i'm thomas magill. detectives in croydon are continuing to question a teenage boy about the fatal stabbing of a is—year—old girl who was on her way to school yesterday morning. she'd just got off a bus outside the whitgift centre when the attack took place. it's thought the boy who remains in police custody may have been known to her. there's been a big rise in the number of foreign students choosing to study here in london. since 2016 the number has grown by 59% with many now saying they're stuggling to find accommodation due to the rental crisis. some universities are expanding at a rate much higher than the local housing stock can deal with. so they're not building at that rate or, even if they are, they might be building really expensive accommodation, or, on the other hand, the private rental market can't keep up with it, especially in areas like london and the south east.

let's take a look at the tubes now. there's minor delays on the metropolitan line. otherwise a good service. now onto the weather. and it will be a dry and sunny start. cloud cover will become a little thicker in the afternoon with the chance of the odd isolated shower. top temperature 20 degrees. that's it for now. much more on the bbc news app and there's regular bulletins across the day on bbc radio london.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. police are continuing to question a teenage boy about the fatal stabbing of a fifteen—year—old girl in croydon. as millions of households face another winter of high energy bills, the regulator ofgem tells breakfast its review of standing charges and how they've gone up will be complete within weeks. a major nature study has found that one in six wildlife species in the uk is at risk of becoming extinct. from the east end to siam. call the midwife star helen george

will be here to tell us about starring in the musical the king and i. storm agnes is out of the way and after a wet and windy day for some of you yesterday, a much brighter day today. one or two showers but wetter weather to come tonight. all of the details later. it's thursday the 28th of september. our main story. a murder investigation is continuing in south london after a is—year—old girl was fatally stabbed on her way to school. a boy aged 17 was arrested shortly after the attack in croydon yesterday morning, and police say he may have known the victim. our reporter louisa pilbeam is at the scene. louisa, bring us right up to date with the investigation and what we are being told by the authorities. yes, police are appealing for anyone who saw this attack to come forward

with information and any video. it was almost exactly 2a hours ago that a school girl got off this bus with a school girl got off this bus with a friend and was stabbed and killed. my a friend and was stabbed and killed. my report now on what police are calling every parents worst nightmare. behind these screens overnight, forensic experts search for evidence after a teenage girl was killed. stabbed in the neck on a busy street on her way to school. this bus had been full of schoolchildren at 8.30 yesterday morning on one of the main roads through the london borough of croydon. the bus driver and passers—by tried to save the is—year—old. witnesses said there had been an argument with a boy who tried to give her or her friend flowers. the girl, who has not been named by police, died before she could be taken to hospital. detectives say they believe she may have known her attacker. within 75 minutes of the incident happening, a 17—year—old boy

was arrested in new addington. he remains in custody and will be questioned by detectives. we remain in the early stages of our investigation, however, based on what we know so far, we believe that we are not looking for anyone else in connection with this offence. the weapon used in the attack was described by witnesses as a long knife. sir mark rowley, head of the met police, visited the scene. old palace ofjohn whitgift, where the girl was a pupil in year 11, said everyone was deeply shocked by the senseless death of a much loved pupil, a feeling echoed by the local mp. i'm heartbroken that a child in my town has been killed on her way to school and i cannot imagine the grief that her family will be going through at this time. overnight, people came to lay flowers and leave tributes in shock that such a crime could happen in their area in broad daylight.

stabbings are not uncommon in croydon but it is shocking because this is a very busy area. lots of people coming apart at the time. i have spoken to the met police and they have confirmed that the 17—year—old that they arrested is still in police custody stop as for the identity of the 15 girl who died, we don't have any more details at present about her. thank you, louise. more now on a major report we are talking about, flowers, birds, everything to do with wildlife. protestors have gathered outside the department for environment food and rural affairs this morning,

after wildlife charities warned the uk is losing its most precious animals and plants at an alarming rate. our reporter mark lobel is there. protesters wants protesters wa nts cha nge, protesters wants change, don't they because some of the things that have come out of the report are quite worrying and very scary in fact. very scary and that's why it has drawn hundreds of protesters, they are expected here outside the department of food and rural affairs at five locations around the uk. they are triggered by the alarm, one in ten species considered at risk of extension ten years ago, it is now one in six. there are lots of them —— different demands, i spoke to the protester stephen bailey who got up at boy to come here, he is asking for wilde beaver releases so they don't have defence then. he wants

see the ban of bottom —— don't have to fence them. it was to see the ban of bottom trawling. james is also here from the group of action, what is your number—one we have seen a bonfire of environmental regulation. we want the government to enforce the law_ we want the government to enforce the law and make water companies clean _ the law and make water companies clean up _ the law and make water companies clean up their sewage, cuts down on nutrient— clean up their sewage, cuts down on nutrient influx into the rivers and -ive nutrient influx into the rivers and give life — nutrient influx into the rivers and give life the chance to breathe. how would they do _ give life the chance to breathe. hm would they do that, give life the chance to breathe. firm would they do that, briefly? give life the chance to breathe. how would they do that, briefly? we - give life the chance to breathe. howl would they do that, briefly? we need to see the environment _ would they do that, briefly? we need to see the environment agency - would they do that, briefly? we needj to see the environment agency under the auspices of defra to be refunded, they have had cut in the last ten— refunded, they have had cut in the last ten years, they need to be funded — last ten years, they need to be funded again so farmers can have an incentive _ funded again so farmers can have an incentive to — funded again so farmers can have an incentive to clean up their waist and the — incentive to clean up their waist and the water companies need to look after the _ and the water companies need to look after the rivers they are meant to

be caring — after the rivers they are meant to be caring for. after the rivers they are meant to be caring for-— after the rivers they are meant to be caring for. thank you very much for takin: be caring for. thank you very much for taking us _ be caring for. thank you very much for taking us through _ be caring for. thank you very much for taking us through that - for taking us through that particular concern.- for taking us through that particular concern. for taking us through that articular concern. .. ,. , ., ,. new laws have come into force in northern ireland, which will grant anonymity to people suspected of sexual offences until they are charged. members of the public will also be excluded from the crown court during sexual offence cases. northern ireland is the first part of the uk to put these measures into law. funerals have been held in northern iraq after at least 113 people died when a fire swept through a wedding. officials say the blaze was caused by fireworks which were [it during the celebration with flammable materials in the hall fuelling it. gb news has suspended two of its presenters, dan wootton and laurence fox, following disparaging comments on air about a female journalist. wootton has apologised for not intervening while fox made the remarks. labour has dropped plans to end charitable status for private schools, which exempts some of them in england and wales from taxes.

sir keir starmer had previously said the status could not be justified but the party now says it can remove "unfair tax breaks" from private schools in other ways, like charging them vat. the government accused labour of making a u—turn on a major policy. an independent health think—tank is calling for nhs workers in england to have their student loans written off after ten years' service. the nuffield trust believes it will help retain staff and curb the high number of students who fail to finish their training. here's more from our health correspondent nick triggle. oxygen away, shocking now. it takes nearly £65,000 to train a nurse on average. that is more than is recouped in student loan repayments. and yet research by the nuffield trust shows significant numbers of nurses and other front line staff are not finishing their training or leaving the nhs soon after starting. 13% of nurse students fail to finish their courses and the numbers are similar

for radiographers and occupational therapists. once they start working in the nhs,18% of nurses leave within two years. for physios and occupational therapists, the numbers are even higher at 21%. the nuffield trust has called for a loan forgiveness scheme whereby nurses, midwives and staff such as physios and radiographers have their debts written off after ten years' service in the nhs. many of these staff actually won't pay back their student loans over the course of their careers, so actually it's not as expensive as it might seem to start to pay those off early on in return for years of service. it would cost about £230 million a year. that might sound a lot, but it's a very small proportion, for example, compared to increasing the wage bill of hospital staff by 1%. it said this was not a silver bullet and other steps, including better salaries in the early years and support for newjoiners was needed. but the government has rejected the suggestion,

saying support was already in place, including 5,000 a year training grants that struck the right balance between the interests of taxpayers and students. take some deep breaths and relax now. nick triggle, bbc news. a nasa astronaut and two russian cosmonauts have returned to earth after being stuck in space for six months longer than planned. the trio spent 37! days in orbit after their spacecraft sprang a leak while it was docked to the international space station and they had to wait for a spare. nothing happens quickly into space from what i can say.— nothing happens quickly into space from what i can say. stuck in space, sounds like — from what i can say. stuck in space, sounds like a _ from what i can say. stuck in space, sounds like a new— from what i can say. stuck in space, sounds like a new series, _ from what i can say. stuck in space, sounds like a new series, like - from what i can say. stuck in space, sounds like a new series, like lost l sounds like a new series, like lost in space, stuck in space, what do you think?— in space, stuck in space, what do ou think? .. , ., ., ., you think? imagine if you had gone for a spacewalk _ you think? imagine if you had gone for a spacewalk and _ you think? imagine if you had gone for a spacewalk and you _ you think? imagine if you had gone for a spacewalk and you are - you think? imagine if you had gone for a spacewalk and you are out - you think? imagine if you had gone for a spacewalk and you are out in l for a spacewalk and you are out in the delivery came. could have been

another six months. let the delivery came. could have been another six months.— another six months. let it with the neighbour! — another six months. let it with the neighbour! exactly! _ another six months. let it with the neighbour! exactly! that— another six months. let it with the neighbour! exactly! that is - another six months. let it with the neighbour! exactly! that is a - another six months. let it with the neighbour! exactly! that is a long l neighbour! exactly! that is a long wait. what neighbour! exactly! that is a long wait- what is _ neighbour! exactly! that is a long wait. what is the _ neighbour! exactly! that is a long wait. what is the picture? - neighbour! exactly! that is a long wait. what is the picture? this i neighbour! exactly! that is a long wait. what is the picture? this is| wait. what is the picture? this is from swansea _ wait. what is the picture? this is from swansea yesterday, - wait. what is the picture? this is from swansea yesterday, stormy weather. storm agnes did not have much impact, it peaked before it arrived on our shores. but this was the scene in swansea. parts of wales had the strongest winds through yesterday, they were gusting in excess of 60 miles an hour quite widely around the coasts, and in north—west wales, we saw the windows top at 84 miles an hour. that has now cleared. the storm has moved north of us and things are looking quieter today. this is the hook of cloud linked to storm agnes, more cloud linked to storm agnes, more cloud gathering from the west will bring rain later. but sunshine to begin with, carry through the day, a

few light showers in the wet but most places will be dry today. the breeze not as strong as yesterday but still blustery particularly around the coasts and hills. coming from the south—westerly direction, temperatures are still holding up, 17 to 20 or 21 degrees for the vast majority. in the west later you can see the rain gathering, heavy bursts of rain set to push across northern ireland into western scotland. short lived bursts of intense rain and gusty winds. rain more erratic across wales in western england into the evening. eastern areas staying dry throughout. heavy rain pushes south and east. there could be nasty travelling conditions. for many tomorrow, a pretty decent today and saturday not a bad start, saturday evening and saturday night rain

across parts of scotland, northern ireland and western wales. doesn't it feel better _ ireland and western wales. doesn't it feel better when _ ireland and western wales. doesn't it feel better when everything i it feel better when everything works? 50 it feel better when everything works? . , ., it feel better when everything works? . . ., ., it feel better when everything works? . , ., ., ., works? so much better, we have had a chat. i can imagine! _ works? so much better, we have had a chat. i can imagine! excuse— works? so much better, we have had a chat. i can imagine! excuse me. i let's see what happens when ben comes in from stage left to talk to us. we are talking about a very serious subject, well done, you are in position. serious sub'ect, well done, you are in position.— serious sub'ect, well done, you are in position.i we - serious sub'ect, well done, you are in position.i we are i in position. ever ready. we are talkin: in position. ever ready. we are talking about _ in position. ever ready. we are talking about standing - in position. ever ready. we are talking about standing issues, | in position. ever ready. we are i talking about standing issues, we have talked about this a lot, people are very angry. you cannot avoid it, you see it on the bill and it stacks up. you see it on the bill and it stacks u n . ., you see it on the bill and it stacks u -. ., ., ., you see it on the bill and it stacks u n _ ., ., ., , ., ., you see it on the bill and it stacks up. no matter what you do to ad'ust our up. no matter what you do to ad'ust your energy — up. no matter what you do to ad'ust your energy use fl up. no matter what you do to ad'ust your energy to i up. no matter what you do to ad'ust your energy use to save i up. no matter what you do to ad'ust your energy use to save money, i up. no matter what you do to adjust l your energy use to save money, these are fixed standing charges. the energy regulator has picked up on the fact that people feel very strongly about this as they struggle with their bills. we know it is coming down to a review, we could get the results of that review within weeks.

because while the price as: unit of gas and electricity may be falling, standing charges are going up, not down. last month the head of ofgem admitted to us these charges are high and said the regulator is reviewing them. they've since told us firm proposals will be set out by end of the year. they are fixed daily fees, a bit like the line rentalfor your phone. they're charged for a gas and electricity connection and added to your bill regardless of how much or how little energy you use. these fees can vary quite significantly depending on where you live and who your supplier is. why do they exist? well, they're supposed to cover so—called non—energy costs involved in supplying the energy to your home. things like maintaining the network of cables or pipes. the cost of sending staff to do meter readings or repairs and providing call centres.

but these fees have gone up significantly. back in april 2019 the average charge per year for a typical household was around £180. now that's climbed to almost £300 a year. ofgem says that's because suppliers have had to absorb the costs of the energy companies that went bust in recent years. many of you got in touch with us when we last talked about this on breakfast. our cost of living correspondent colletta smith metjayne and leon to hear how standing charges are affecting them. good boy! at the moment, jayne feels like she's having to perform magic tricks to afford her energy bills. when this year's statement has come in, they wanted £288 off me. i said i don't get that a fortnight, there's no way i can do that. unless i go rob a bank, which i can't run right fast, so...! she's got arthritis and blood cancer, and both conditions get worse in the cold.

i've got draft excluders, i've got brushes on my letterbox, we do turn things off, you know. i don't think we can do much more than we already are doing. and it's the standing charge in particular that makes her angry, because it's eating up more than half of her gas and electricity charges. i don't expect it for nowt, you know. i use it, i'll pay for it. but i shouldn't have to be worrying about it. no matter how much jayne turns off the lights and keeps the heating off, like every household, she's still hit with the same standing—charge payments. there have been growing calls to completely change the way standing charges are applied, first coming from charities and now mps are joining in that call, saying it's unfair, that it hits people on prepayment meters hardest and that those who can afford it the [east end up paying the biggest chunk of their bill on standing charges. the standing charge per day is 55.6 pence a day. over the last 18 months, leon's

standing charges have doubled. you're being charged for nothing. if you use no gas, no electric whatsoever, if you turn your fridge off, if you turned everything off, it's still costing you 84—85p a day, which is like nearly £320 a year. for those who live alone, the standing charges feel particularly tough. i don't think there should be standing charges at all. and if there are running costs, that's fair enough, it should be minimal. the regulator ofgem told breakfast they were looking into the issue. potentially it could change, but this is not simple. i mean, the costs of the system remain fixed, if you change around how they're charged for, there will be losers as well winners. now, ofgem has told me that concrete proposals will be set out by the end of the year and, in the meantime, suppliers are free to structure their tariffs as they see fit, which is exactly what's happened forjayne. as a vulnerable customer, her supplier octopus have just agreed to waive her standing charge

for the next six months. relief. relief that i'm going to be paying £70, £80 a month, but it's going to be going all to my bill, all to what i owe them. it's not going to be half of it going to standing charge. but unless the government or the regulator change the way the system runs, she's still facing the same problem in the new year. colletta smith, bbc news, in bradford. it isa it is a really tough time for people like those, it's two of the many of you who have been in touch. lots of questions around this. lots of strong views about this. charlie and naga will go through some of those with an right now. —— with an expert. we're nowjoined on the sofa by hannah berry, from campaign group fuel poverty action. the timeframe around which we will know

what ofgem will come up with, that is weeks, that is a positive thing you will be saying. it is is weeks, that is a positive thing you will be saying.— you will be saying. it is a positive. _ you will be saying. it is a positive, yes. _ you will be saying. it is a positive, yes. they i you will be saying. it is a positive, yes. they keep| you will be saying. it is a - positive, yes. they keep reviewing it and then resisting actually doing the change. it's good to hear they are having another review. but this time we hope that the tide has turned and they are going to scrap the standing charge. shes turned and they are going to scrap the standing charge._ the standing charge. as far as you are concerned, _ the standing charge. as far as you are concerned, you _ the standing charge. as far as you are concerned, you say _ the standing charge. as far as you are concerned, you say it - the standing charge. as far as you are concerned, you say it should l the standing charge. as far as you l are concerned, you say it should be gonein are concerned, you say it should be gone in its entirety.— gone in its entirety. yes, fuel rove gone in its entirety. yes, fuel poverty action _ gone in its entirety. yes, fuel poverty action has _ gone in its entirety. yes, fuel poverty action has been i gone in its entirety. yes, fuel. poverty action has been fighting gone in its entirety. yes, fuel- poverty action has been fighting the standing charge as part of our energy for all campaign. we think it is a very unfair system and it should be abolished and 81% of the public agree with that position. i think a lot of people would agree with not paying a standing charge. but energy infrastructure needs to be paid for so where will those charges be absorbed and would we be able to see where they are being absorbed? i able to see where they are being absorbed? .. . able to see where they are being absorbed? ~ , ,., ., absorbed? i think it is important that people _

absorbed? i think it is important that people see _ absorbed? i think it is important that people see which _ absorbed? i think it is important that people see which part i absorbed? i think it is important that people see which part of i absorbed? i think it is important l that people see which part of their bill goes on what. but the standing charges have gone up massively in the last couple of years as you have said. and that, you know, the customer has had to absorb the cost of ofgem's failure to regulate energy companies, which resulted in so many of them going bust. so we don't think that that charge should be put onto customers. but there are other elements within the standing charge which cover the grid and overheads but also profits and dividends. we think that the charge could be, can be completely abolished and the cost of the grid, the actual operating charges of the grid could be in there but we think that the huge profits of the energy firms are what should be covering it. ., , firms are what should be covering it. .. , . .~' firms are what should be covering it. .. , . a ., firms are what should be covering it. the reality check in a way is that a lot _ it. the reality check in a way is that a lot of — it. the reality check in a way is that a lot of people _ it. the reality check in a way is that a lot of people will- it. the reality check in a way is

that a lot of people will be i that a lot of people will be thinking, so, we could celebrate the end of the standing charge, and then bills go up. because these companies are seeking to cover their costs. that presumably would not be a success. that would just be the cost absorbed into a different place. we think absorbed into a different place. , think that the windfall taxes should be used to make sure that bills don't go up massively. some of it could go into the unit charge, the reason that ofgem has given, i think they are saying people with high energy use who are vulnerable and disabled have... they are running machines which cost a lot of money, they would then suffer. there is targeted support for those people. and that can all be mitigated. shes targeted support for those people. and that can all be mitigated. $5 i and that can all be mitigated. as i understand _ and that can all be mitigated. as i understand it, _ and that can all be mitigated. as i understand it, the energy companies can choose whether or not they have standing charges. some of the companies do not have standing charges costed. why do they not all do that? i

charges costed. why do they not all do that? .. charges costed. why do they not all do that? ~ ,., ., ., do that? i think some of them do choose to — do that? i think some of them do choose to put _ do that? i think some of them do choose to put the _ do that? i think some of them do choose to put the standing i do that? i think some of them do| choose to put the standing charge onto the tariff but it creates really quite complex tariffs, often the charges are piled into the first few units of electricity you use so it's not a straightforward question. fuel poverty action believe, we have an energy all campaign, we think that the standing charges are very unfair tax which means that somebody who lives in a tiny bedsit is paying more per unit of electricity than rishi sunak in his mansion. irate more per unit of electricity than rishi sunak in his mansion. we don't know rishi sunak's _ rishi sunak in his mansion. we don't know rishi sunak's energy _ rishi sunak in his mansion. we don't know rishi sunak's energy bill i rishi sunak in his mansion. we don't know rishi sunak's energy bill so i rishi sunak in his mansion. we don't know rishi sunak's energy bill so we i know rishi sunak's energy bill so we can't comment on that but we get the picture. can't comment on that but we get the ricture. .. .. can't comment on that but we get the ricture. ., ~' ,, can't comment on that but we get the ricture. ., ,. y., ., can't comment on that but we get the ricture. ., ,. , ., ., ., ., picture. thank you, we have had a lot of people _ picture. thank you, we have had a lot of people get _ picture. thank you, we have had a lot of people get in _ picture. thank you, we have had a lot of people get in touch. - picture. thank you, we have had a lot of people get in touch. this i picture. thank you, we have had a| lot of people get in touch. this one sa s, she lot of people get in touch. this one says. she lives _ lot of people get in touch. this one says, she lives alone, _ lot of people get in touch. this one says, she lives alone, but - lot of people get in touch. this one says, she lives alone, but stayed . says, she lives alone, but stayed for six weeks with someone else, all of the gas and electric was turned off but was charged £100 in that

evening. she says i am on a low really struggle, i'm in debt as i come to retirement age. —— i am on a low wage and really struggle. ih low wage and really struggle. in terms of people who have extra machines or equipment in the house, they need energy. adam says he has looked at his smart meter this morning, his standing charge is 94p per day. he says he is disabled after having a stroke, his boiler has been switched off since april, his hot water comes from a shower unit and he cannot afford to shower every day. the total standing charge is more than the gas and electricity that he uses. irate is more than the gas and electricity that he uses-— that he uses. we have learned this morninr that he uses. we have learned this morning that _ that he uses. we have learned this morning that the _ that he uses. we have learned this morning that the timeframe i that he uses. we have learned this| morning that the timeframe around when we will get the results of this review has come down, we are talking about weeks, ofgem are saying this morning. we will follow that of course, and let you know. when aliens visit earth in movies, they often target big cities like london, tokyo or new york, but did they actually choose

to hover above a primary school in pembrokeshire? not like it is a massive thing over the whole city. imagine it over a primary school in pembrokeshire. close encounters of the third kind theme. what we don't know, that was the communication sound, wasn't it? and in the story we are talking about, we don't actually know whether the aliens made contact. i like that bit! 1977 was a year the pupils of broad haven will never forget. the spaceship, it looked cigar shaped with a dome on it. i couldn't see its face because it was too far away. oh, you say you saw- a man as well, did you? yes. were you frightened at the time? yes. why? i thought there would be an alarm inside there or something. suddenly the silver cigar shaped object seemed to pop up from behind the bushes and trying to take off,

then it disappeared again. i can't say any more than it was a ufo. it was an unidentified flying object. i mean, all of us kids, especially the boys, we were familiar with everything that nato had in the air at the time. we were so close to raf brawdy, we could identify anything up there. there are lots of people who have dismissed it. and i'd just like them to look at the new evidence that's come along now and look at the story again with an open mind. there was a spate of sightings after the strange goings—on at broad haven primary school. this area became known as the dyfed triangle because so many people said that they'd seen ufos. it was a good seven feet tall, it had like a silver suit with like a motorbike visor. that's all it had for a face. very, very dark. i thought, "good god, what is that?"

i thought, that's not a man. a new documentary series made by netflix called encounters features the story of multiple ufo sightings in pembrokeshire. i just found the welsh story to be, it was an incredible story. it wasn't just one thing that happened. there was this event at the school, then there was this event at the farm. then there was this event at the hotel. there was hundreds and hundreds of people. and that sort of critical mass, i think it was something like over 450 people witnessed it. broad haven primary have kept the drawings made by pupils of what they saw in 1977. the current pupils will play a starring role in the new documentary, recreating the events of 1977. we had to wear like old clothes and play football and look at this really bright thing. when we pretended we had to see the ufo on the fields, we had to run into class. perhaps there were actually aliens |that were there, but i don't know. j |a friend who was in the original year six told me that it was just

a lorry, it wasjust a man driving a lorry. _ when he got out, they. started shouting at him, calling him an alien. but you never know. the parents have arranged a premiere in the village hall on saturday, so the children are going to dress up in their shirt and tie or dressed as aliens and go to their own premiere of their show. what really happened here in the broad haven area in 1977 remains a mystery, but the truth is out there somewhere. aled scourfield, bbc news. we like a mystery. i think there is a lot of evidence. seven foot tall silver man, a cigar —shaped ufo. fiend silver man, a cigar -shaped ufo. and the drawings — silver man, a cigar —shaped ufo. and the drawings are. silver man, a cigar -shaped ufo. and the drawings are. we _ silver man, a cigar -shaped ufo. and the drawings are. we saw _ silver man, a cigar -shaped ufo. and the drawings are. we saw it _ silver man, a cigar -shaped ufo. and the drawings are. we saw it all. i morning live follows breakfast on bbc one this morning. let's find out what they have in store with kym and gethin. gethin, you are welsh, so i'm

assuming you must have seen that when it happened. i know you weren't born. 50 when it happened. i know you weren't born, ., , when it happened. i know you weren't born. ., . did when it happened. i know you weren't born-_ did you i born. so how did he see it? did you hear stories — born. so how did he see it? did you hear stories about _ born. so how did he see it? did you hear stories about it _ born. so how did he see it? did you hear stories about it in _ born. so how did he see it? did you hear stories about it in wales, i hear stories about it in wales, folklore? i hear stories about it in wales, folklore? .. hear stories about it in wales, folklore? ., ., , folklore? i will have to be completely _ folklore? i will have to be completely honest i folklore? i will have to be completely honest about| folklore? i will have to be - completely honest about you, we folklore? i will have to be _ completely honest about you, we were having an item before we came on air, and we missed what you were talking about. == air, and we missed what you were talking about-— air, and we missed what you were talking about. -- having a chat. let me help yon _ talking about. -- having a chat. let me help yon in _ talking about. -- having a chat. let me help you. in 1977, _ talking about. -- having a chat. let| me help you. in 1977, schoolchildren in differed in wales saw a spacecraft coming down, a seven foot tall silver man, and a cigar —shaped ufo, they all bore witness, they saw it, they said. you were not born but i wonder whether you had heard anything over the years about ufos being spotted in wales. i remember m dad being spotted in wales. i remember my dad talking _ being spotted in wales. i remember my dad talking about _ being spotted in wales. i remember my dad talking about it. _ being spotted in wales. i remember my dad talking about it. i _ being spotted in wales. i remember my dad talking about it. i was - being spotted in wales. i remember my dad talking about it. i was born l my dad talking about it. i was born the following is my dad killed in the following is my dad killed in the gaps. you are going back to a bit of welsh history, you're putting me —— i was born the following year

so my dad had to fill in the gaps. i believe, do you believe? hagar so my dad had to fill in the gaps. i believe, do you believe?— so my dad had to fill in the gaps. i believe, do you believe? how are you auoin to believe, do you believe? how are you going to segue _ believe, do you believe? how are you going to segue into _ believe, do you believe? how are you going to segue into what _ believe, do you believe? how are you going to segue into what is _ believe, do you believe? how are you going to segue into what is coming i going to segue into what is coming on on morning live? let’s going to segue into what is coming on on morning live?— going to segue into what is coming on on morning live? coming up, there's been a staggering 4,000% rise in scammers stealing personal details from pensions like dates of birth and even home addresses. rav wilding explains what to do if you've been the victim of a cyber attack. now is the time to act. i'll show you how spending five minutes adding a security alerti to your credit report can stop the criminals stealing - your identity. plus, it can leave you feeling sick, bloated and with a bitter taste in your mouth. we're talking indigestion. dr ranj looks into a new study that suggests an ancient spice might hold the key to treatment. turmeric costs 10 times less - than the leading stomach settling drug but could be just as effective. i'll share why steering clear - of peppermint tea and eating dinner earlier can also help calm symptoms. also today, we follow the story of an american woman running to raise money for toby, a boy from newcastle

with cerebral palsy. after nearly a decade of long—distance support, presenter oj borg helps unite the pair at toby's local race, the iconic great north run. i've been running for toby for nine years, | but being able to run with him, my heart just exploded! - all that, plus cook yvonne cobb is getting our morning off to a good start. she's making a viral egg and pesto breakfast bagel and putting a seasonal spin on french toast with a blackberry compote, both in the air fryer! and there are no ufos in sight. see you at 9:15. poor you, talk to your producer so you can have ufa tomorrow and it will be better. enjoy, guys. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning, welcome to bbc

london, i'm thomas magill. detectives in croydon are continuing to question a teenage boy about the fatal stabbing of a is—year—old girl who was on her way to school yesterday morning. she'd just got off a bus outside the whitgift centre when the attack took place. it's thought the boy, who remains in police custody, may have been known to her. the metropolitan police are urging those with information or footage of the attack to come forward. there's been a big rise in the number of foreign students choosing to study here in london. since 2016, the number has grown by 59%, with many now saying they're stuggling to find accommodation due to the rental crisis. the national union of students is calling for more affordable places for students to live. some universities are expanding at a rate much higher than the local housing stock can deal with. so they're not building at that rate or, even if they are, they might be building really expensive accommodation, or, on the other hand, the private rental market can't keep

up with it, especially in areas like london and the south east. a number of local authorities around london are due to get part of an £80 million investment pot to help improve their bus services. councils including essex, hertfordshire, and buckinghamshire will benefit from the funding as part of the bus service improvement plan. the money could be used to extend timetables, reduce fares, or roll out new routes. rail passengers travelling to and from gatwick airport are being advised to find alternative transport during the next planned rail strike this saturday. a shuttle bus will operate between gatwick and london victoria only. there's industrial action planned for saturday and then again on the lith october. let's take a look at the tubes. a good service. now the weather. good morning. it's another mild

start this morning. still breezy, today, as well, but slightly lighter than yesterday — the wind a moderate south—westerly. sunny spells, but also the chance of a few light showers. any sunshine this morning fairly hazy. we have some high cloud. the cloud will thicken through the afternoon. it is then we could see one or two light showers developing. maximum temperature, though, still reasonably mild at around 20 celsius. overnight tonight, the cloud will continue to thicken. we will get some spells of rain. could get a heavier burst into the early hours of tomorrow morning. minimum temperature, again it is going to be mild, around 13 celsius. that rain will clear through friday. a ridge of high pressure starts to build, so once any cloud and rain from the south—east move out of the way, we have dry and sunny conditions. a bit of fair weather cloud and temperatures getting up to around 21 celsius. as we head into the weekend, fine and dry for saturday. ist of october, of course,

on sunday and we could see temperatures at 23 celsius. that's it. more on the bbc news app. there's regular bulletins across the day on bbc radio london. i'll be back in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. trainee surgeons have started working with a new artificial intelligence tool that can help to guide them through complicated brain surgery. the technology is being developed at university college london with the hope it can be used during live surgery within two years, making the procedures safer and more effective. global health correspondent tulip mazumdar reports. the future of health care is changing rapidly. here, machines have been learning how best to perform brain surgery, and now they're training the surgeons of tomorrow.

what are those structures here based on the ai? can you see these segmented structures? right and left carotid artery. yeah, correct. trainee surgeon nicola is one of the first to be using artificial intelligence to help her learn about keyhole surgery at the centre of the brain. today, she's training in a mock theatre on a pretend patient. so here we see a simulated pituitary operation, and right in the centre of the screen is the pituitary tumour. the ai has learnt from analysing videos of this type of surgery where exactly the surgeon is in the brain and can help guide them at critical points. so it's very useful because it principally helps me orientate myself during the surgery and helps me identify what steps and what stages are coming up next. and what's this in yellow on the ai? whilst the ai trains nicola, it's also quickly learning how to do all this in real life.

what we're hoping for is that in the near future, in the next year or two, we will introduce this ai in theatres in real time in patients to help support surgeons making those decisions during the operation and help provide a better quality of surgery. this ai system has learned from watching and analysing more than 200 videos of this type of surgery. it would take your average brain surgeon around ten years to gain that level of experience, but it's taken this ai around ten months. all right, should we have a look at the tumour resection phase? so it teaches the ai that today. like the technology itself, regulation around artificial intelligence in healthcare is still evolving. these are two of the specialists tasked with teaching the ai and ensuring patient safety. how do you make sure what you're teaching the ai is absolutely correct, that it's not going to sort of run away with itself with information that is possibly incomplete? so the type of ai we use is called supervised learning. so everything that we put

into it is something that we've taken a look at as an entire team of experts. and practically, that looks like myself and some of the other members of our team spending hundreds of hours making sure that the information we're feeding the al to teach it is as accurate as it can be. and here comes the tumour. this tech isn't replacing surgeons any time soon. it's still a human that will control the scalpel. but the possibilities for al in health care are endless. you could in a few years have an ai system that has seen more operations than any human has ever or could ever see. but that offers the opportunity for the alto offer insights that no surgeon has yet acquired. i'm very bullish that in the medium to long term, we'll see ai supporting our work as surgeons, notjust for pituitary surgery and neurosurgery, but for all types of surgery. tulip mazumdar, bbc news. joining us now is

professor dan stoyanov from university college london. the image of the tumour being pulled out, that— the image of the tumour being pulled out, that was not real? absolutely. that was not a real tumour. it was in a phantom environment. it was a realistic training environment but not a real tumour. , �* �* training environment but not a real tumour. , ~ ~ ., training environment but not a real tumour. , ~~ ., ., ., ., , tumour. use mi and automatically ou can tumour. use mi and automatically you can imagine — tumour. use mi and automatically you can imagine the _ tumour. use mi and automatically you can imagine the word - tumour. use mi and automatically you can imagine the word cloud, i you can imagine the word cloud, scary, invasive, taking over humanity. in a basic way you were comparing this ai with the count. when you use your mobile phone and take a picture, sometimes it can detect faces to help you to take a better picture. surgeons use cameras

to be less invasive so they can see parts of the body while operating. that camera is digital. we can use similar ai systems that detect faces but to detect a tumour, blood vessel, ducts. and therefore to highlight them for the surgeon to prevent injury. flan highlight them for the surgeon to prevent injury-— prevent in'ury. can this work in real prevent injury. can this work in real time? _ prevent injury. can this work in real time? i — prevent injury. can this work in realtime? i am _ prevent injury. can this work in realtime? i am picturing - prevent injury. can this work in real time? i am picturing the i prevent injury. can this work in - realtime? i am picturing the scene. real time? i am picturing the scene. we can see the surgeon doing his work. a lot of people gathered around and things can change quickly. how can these ai help? it can run in real time over the video feed and help the surgeon to... what feed and help the surgeon to... what ou mean, feed and help the surgeon to... what you mean. the _ feed and help the surgeon to... what you mean, the video _ feed and help the surgeon to... what you mean, the video feed? the - you mean, the video feed? the surreon you mean, the video feed? the surgeon uses — you mean, the video feed? the surgeon uses a _ you mean, the video feed? tue: surgeon uses a surgical you mean, the video feed? tta: surgeon uses a surgical camera. in this case, neurosurgery, the camera is inserted through the nose so you

can visualise the area around the pituitary gland. that camera has a video feed delivered to the surgeon on the monitor so they can operate. we can run ai on the monitor so they can operate. we can run alon on the monitor so they can operate. we can run al on the video feed and display information on the monitor to visualise the important structures in real time. aha, to visualise the important structures in real time. a thought occurs to me- _ structures in real time. a thought occurs to me. a _ structures in real time. a thought occurs to me. a surgeon - structures in real time. a thought occurs to me. a surgeon is - structures in real time. a thought occurs to me. a surgeon is doing | structures in real time. a thought| occurs to me. a surgeon is doing a lot, concentrating, a high—pressure environment. is there a danger it can be too much information? that is an important— can be too much information? that is an important point. _ can be too much information? that is an important point. it _ can be too much information? that is an important point. it is _ can be too much information? that is an important point. it is important i an important point. it is important not cause inadvertent absence of information or overload of information. that is something we need to work with the clinical teams, understand how the user interface is best designed to help surgeons to operate optimally. we want the information to be relevant, prevent risk and injury, not to

overload and overcomplicate the procedure. "fet overload and overcomplicate the rocedure. overload and overcomplicate the procedure-— overload and overcomplicate the rocedure. _, ., .. ., procedure. yet it could accelerate the learning _ procedure. yet it could accelerate the learning process _ procedure. yet it could accelerate the learning process for _ procedure. yet it could accelerate| the learning process for surgeons. there is a longer training period. and really, experience comes through getting your hands on patients. could this shorten that time? i do not think it will get to the point where it replaces surgeons. we are not hoinr where it replaces surgeons. we are not hoping to _ where it replaces surgeons. we are not hoping to replace _ where it replaces surgeons. we are not hoping to replace surgeons. i where it replaces surgeons. we are | not hoping to replace surgeons. we view this as an assistant to surgeons, and we think it may shorten training runs so it may allow a level of information to be available to junior surgeons in a way not available today so that is something we want to explore. if we can accelerate the training process and get surgeons to be highly competent more easily. that and get surgeons to be highly competent more easily. that will be im ortant. competent more easily. that will be important- this _ competent more easily. that will be important. this is _ competent more easily. that will be important. this is brain _ competent more easily. that will be important. this is brain surgery i competent more easily. that will be important. this is brain surgery but| important. this is brain surgery but if this works can it be expanded to the rest of the body?—

the rest of the body? absolutely. technologv _ the rest of the body? absolutely. technologv is _ the rest of the body? absolutely. technology is being _ the rest of the body? absolutely. technology is being explored i the rest of the body? absolutely. technology is being explored in l the rest of the body? absolutely. | technology is being explored in all sorts of surgery. surgery is complicated. all surgeons specialise in a particular type of surgery and this needs to be trained and developed to be specific and creating value for specific surgeons utilising it in the anatomical area. it is fascinating. keep us posted on how it works and how it gets used. really interesting. professor, i love your title. professor of robot vision. thank you. it's been 20 years since the author and illustrator cressida cowell first taught a generation of young readers — and some older ones — how to train a dragon. her book series sold millions of copies and inspired an oscar—nominated film franchise and a tv series. take a look. epic film score.

they are still the best. another win. good job. i cannot believe it is 20 years. good morning. good morning. i can't believe it either. i wrote how to train your dragon when i had just had a baby and it was at the moment i thought that they are letting me out of a hospital with the baby? it could have been how to train your parent! if} could have been how to train your arent! ii , ., , could have been how to train your arent! ii, .,, , .. ,, .,

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to the island. where you writing at that age? i was writing. i - to the island. where you writing at that age? i was writing. i say i to the island. where you writing at that age? i was writing. i say to i that age? i was writing. i say to kids not big _ that age? i was writing. i say to kids not big books _ that age? i was writing. i say to kids not big books like - that age? i was writing. i say to kids not big books like that i that age? i was writing. i say to kids not big books like that but| that age? i was writing. i say to | kids not big books like that but i was writing little beginnings of stories. we was writing little beginnings of stories. ~ ., , ., . :: :: stories. we have 'ust launched 500 words. stories. we have 'ust launched 500 words. ves. — stories. we have just launched 500 words. yes, kids, _ stories. we have just launched 500 words. yes, kids, please. - stories. we have just launched 500 words. yes, kids, please. writing i words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy — words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy of _ words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy of it. _ words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy of it. i _ words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy of it. i am _ words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy of it. i am trying i words. yes, kids, please. writing for the joy of it. i am trying to i for the joy of it. i am trying to get kids reading for the joy of it but also writing for the joy of it is important so please enter the competition. school can be very schooly and a competition like this can get kids writing. i won a writing competition at nine and it was the first time that made me think. messy handwriting, imaginative spelling, but i loved writing and winning made me think i could be a writer. that writing and winning made me think i could be a writer.— could be a writer. at school, were ou a could be a writer. at school, were you a success _ could be a writer. at school, were you a success story? _ could be a writer. at school, were you a success story? you - could be a writer. at school, were you a success story? you could i could be a writer. at school, were i you a success story? you could write but what else was going on? i was

alwa s in but what else was going on? i was always in trouble _ but what else was going on? i was always in trouble and _ but what else was going on? i was always in trouble and very - but what else was going on? t —" always in trouble and very messy and disorganised which is why i make a lot of the heroes in my stories not necessarily getting on at school and not the person most likely to succeed. because i think children need those kind of heroes. tt is need those kind of heroes. it is reassuring _ need those kind of heroes. it is reassuring because you can be going through a difficult time.— through a difficult time. whatever. exactl . through a difficult time. whatever. exactly- my — through a difficult time. whatever. exactly- my new — through a difficult time. whatever. exactly. my new series, _ through a difficult time. whatever. exactly. my new series, which i through a difficult time. whatever. j exactly. my new series, which way through a difficult time. whatever. i exactly. my new series, which way to anywhere. exactly. my new series, which way to an here. , ., ., , anywhere. these are the images. these are the _ anywhere. these are the images. these are the images _ anywhere. these are the images. these are the images we - anywhere. these are the images. these are the images we can i anywhere. these are the images. these are the images we can see| anywhere. these are the images. i these are the images we can see all around us. that is about four children who have magical powers. i am trying to get children reading. i want to write about things they wish were true. so these children have

magical powers in a world that is not very magical. your writing is the core of it but the pictures are glorious. almost like wonderful doodles. they are interspersed over the book. like someone has been scribbling through the book brilliantly. that someone has been scribbling through the book brilliantly.— the book brilliantly. that says to kids, the book brilliantly. that says to kids. come _ the book brilliantly. that says to kids, come in, _ the book brilliantly. that says to kids, come in, that _ the book brilliantly. that says to kids, come in, that says - the book brilliantly. that says to kids, come in, that says this i the book brilliantly. that says to kids, come in, that says this is l the book brilliantly. that says to i kids, come in, that says this is not a school thing, it is not something... when i look at the financial times, something in my brain turns to off. that is what it is like for a kid sometimes. if they see a formal book. instructive. but if you have joyful illustrations and this is about travelling to other worlds, about robots. i noticed you

were talking about artificial intelligence. this is a happy side. there is a cute robot. it is about the joyful things and having a magical power and having these joyful illustrations says this will be a fun thing. d0 joyful illustrations says this will be a fun thing.— joyful illustrations says this will be a fun thing. do you believe in ufos? sort _ be a fun thing. do you believe in ufos? sort of _ be a fun thing. do you believe in ufos? sort of because - be a fun thing. do you believe in ufos? sort of because i - be a fun thing. do you believe in ufos? sort of because i have i be a fun thing. do you believe in i ufos? sort of because i have written a book that — ufos? sort of because i have written a book that went _ ufos? sort of because i have written a book that went around _ ufos? sort of because i have written a book that went around the - ufos? sort of because i have written a book that went around the galaxy l a book that went around the galaxy which is about aliens and ufos. i do believe in aliens because i like to do a lot of research. i am trying to get children reading about getting interested in vikings and in this case science. although it is fantasy, i do lots of research and research shows there really is life on the other side. the latest research says there is life on the other side of the universe but it is so far away, we cannot really get to

it. the latest sort of scientific research into what it might look like is it might not look so very different from life on this planet because in order for life to exist, it has to obey certain physical laws. really interesting the latest science on this as well as ai. in my book it is a fantasy. a kid has a magical gift of knowing where the crossing points between the worlds are. this may not... i may have got away from the science in that bit. you do not have to stick to the science. tt you do not have to stick to the science. ., ., , science. it might not have been discovered _ science. it might not have been discovered yet, _ science. it might not have been discovered yet, you _ science. it might not have been discovered yet, you might i science. it might not have been discovered yet, you might be i science. it might not have been i discovered yet, you might be ahead of your time. exactly. like in narnia. tt of your time. exactly. like in narnia. it is alwa s exactly. like in narnia. it is always lovely _ exactly. like in narnia. it is always lovely talking i exactly. like in narnia. it is always lovely talking to i exactly. like in narnia. it is always lovely talking to you. and

cressida cowell, whose new book is called which way round the galaxy. here's matt. he always has good pictures because the weather watchers serve you well. a lovely shot taken in scotland not long ago with sunshine and broken cloud. drifting further south towards barnsley, you can see cloud. the sun hidden by cloud. it should be a fine day for many but cloud is working towards us. most will be driving. there will be working towards us. most will be driving. there will he breaks in the cloud. some sunshine here in there. better in central and northern scotland throughout the day before it turns wetter. the winds coming

from a south—westerly direction which will keep temperatures up. 17-21. which will keep temperatures up. i7—2i. focus on the west because by the end of the day, heavy rain pushing to the west of scotland and northern ireland. short bursts of intense rain and gusty winds. fairly erratic rain in wales and england by the end of the that will shift overnight. the heaviest rain further south. intense rain and gusty winds. clearing skies to the west later. wind lighter. and temperatures, a warm enough to tomorrow. friday, while the rain clears the south—east, strong to gale force winds in the north but elsewhere, not a bad day. some showers and pleasant in the sunshine. it does look lovely.

helen george is best known for playing nurse trixie franklin in the bbc drama call the midwife. but now she's moving out of the delivery room and into bangkok's royal palace. that's because she's starring in a stage version of the classic musical the king and i. let's see her in action. show music plays. helen is here with us now. when you take something like that on, you just have to remember the

film. on, you 'ust have to remember the film. , y ., on, you 'ust have to remember the film. , ,, ., . on, you 'ust have to remember the film. , ., . . film. did you watch it? when i was ounuer film. did you watch it? when i was younger but _ film. did you watch it? when i was younger but i _ film. did you watch it? when i was younger but i purposely _ film. did you watch it? when i was younger but i purposely did - film. did you watch it? when i was younger but i purposely did not i film. did you watch it? when i was younger but i purposely did not go | younger but i purposely did not go back to it because there is a legacy of women who have played the part and i cannot take it on—board because it is intimidating. you and i cannot take it on-board because it is intimidating. you have to do it your— because it is intimidating. you have to do it your way. _ because it is intimidating. you have to do it your way. it _ because it is intimidating. you have to do it your way. it is _ because it is intimidating. you have to do it your way. it is an _ to do it your way. it is an interesting _ to do it your way. it is an interesting feminist i to do it your way. it is an interesting feminist tail. | to do it your way. it is an | interesting feminist tail. i to do it your way. it is an i interesting feminist tail. i came to do it your way. it is an - interesting feminist tail. i came at it with fresh eyes. tt is interesting feminist tail. i came at it with fresh eyes.— it with fresh eyes. it is a feminist tail. you it with fresh eyes. it is a feminist tail- you do _ it with fresh eyes. it is a feminist tail. you do not _ it with fresh eyes. it is a feminist tail. you do not see _ it with fresh eyes. it is a feminist tail. you do not see many - it with fresh eyes. it is a feminist l tail. you do not see many musicals that era with that sort of ending and such strong women.- that era with that sort of ending and such strong women. also, to give and such strong women. also, to give an actress that _ and such strong women. also, to give an actress that breadth _ and such strong women. also, to give an actress that breadth of— and such strong women. also, to give an actress that breadth of character i an actress that breadth of character within a male dominated society, which what is now thailand, siam, was a male dominated kingdom. this king surrounded himself with about 60 wives. it is not the natural feminist tale but rodgers and hammerstein create a wonderful story about a single mother who gets a job

as a governess for the king and starts to be a political adviser, saving the country from being invaded by the french and english. you look quite different sitting here than you do in the picture behind us. here than you do in the picture behind us— here than you do in the picture behind us. ,, ., ., , ., ., ., behind us. quite a transformation. yes, that is _ behind us. quite a transformation. yes. that is a _ behind us. quite a transformation. yes, that is a wig _ behind us. quite a transformation. yes, that is a wig and _ behind us. quite a transformation. yes, that is a wig and a _ behind us. quite a transformation. yes, that is a wig and a massive i yes, that is a wig and a massive dress. t5 yes, that is a wig and a massive dress. , ' . ., yes, that is a wig and a massive dress. , , . ., ., dress. is it difficult to move in? is it what _ dress. is it difficult to move in? is it what you — dress. is it difficult to move in? is it what you wear _ dress. is it difficult to move in? is it what you wear on - dress. is it difficult to move in? is it what you wear on stage? i dress. is it difficult to move in? j is it what you wear on stage? is dress. is it difficult to move in? i is it what you wear on stage? is it difficult to move around in? yes. difficult to move around in? yes, and we do _ difficult to move around in? yes, and we do a _ difficult to move around in? yes, and we do a polka _ difficult to move around in? yes, and we do a polka in _ difficult to move around in? yes, and we do a polka in it. - difficult to move around in? yes, and we do a polka in it. the i difficult to move around in? ta: and we do a polka in it. the dress has a life of its own. t5 it and we do a polka in it. the dress has a life of its own.— has a life of its own. is it a cage underneath? _ has a life of its own. is it a cage underneath? a _ has a life of its own. is it a cage underneath? a metal— has a life of its own. is it a cage i underneath? a metal framework. has a life of its own. is it a cage i underneath? a metalframework. like some medieval _ underneath? a metalframework. like some medieval torture _ underneath? a metalframework. like some medieval torture device. - underneath? a metalframework. like some medieval torture device. but i some medieval torture device. but wonderful. and it looks incredible. a lot of people say they modelled their wedding dresses on this particular dress. tt is

their wedding dresses on this particular dress.— their wedding dresses on this particular dress. it is a fairy tale dress. particular dress. it is a fairy tale dress- what _ particular dress. it is a fairy tale dress. what has _ particular dress. it is a fairy tale dress. what has it _ particular dress. it is a fairy tale dress. what has it been - particular dress. it is a fairy tale dress. what has it been like i particular dress. it is a fairy tale i dress. what has it been like touring the play? who is coming to see it, people like me who remember the film? is it attracting a different audience? ~ ., , , ., audience? what is brilliant, everyone — audience? what is brilliant, everyone has _ audience? what is brilliant, everyone has an _ audience? what is brilliant, everyone has an affiliation i audience? what is brilliant, i everyone has an affiliation with this tale and watch it with their mother, grandparents, whoever. there are family traits in this film and story so people come in not remembering the tale as well because maybe you saw it as a kid and then you think i did not know that happened, and that happens at the end. i have kids coming to see it and grandparents. it is a wider range. and grandparents. it is a wider rane. �* , and grandparents. it is a wider ranre, �* , ., and grandparents. it is a wider rane. , ., , ., and grandparents. it is a wider ranre, �* , ., , ., ., range. because of being on call the midwife, do — range. because of being on call the midwife. do you _ range. because of being on call the midwife, do you get _ range. because of being on call the midwife, do you get that _ range. because of being on call the midwife, do you get that thing i range. because of being on call the midwife, do you get that thing that l midwife, do you get that thing that people think you have medical expertise? people think you have medical expertise?_ people think you have medical exertise? , a, , ~ a, expertise? yes and they know me in real life and — expertise? yes and they know me in real life and think— expertise? yes and they know me in real life and think you _ expertise? yes and they know me in real life and think you are _ expertise? yes and they know me in real life and think you are not - real life and think you are not coming anywhere near me. do people sa i am coming anywhere near me. do people say i am worried _ coming anywhere near me. do people say i am worried about _ coming anywhere near me. do people say i am worried about this _ coming anywhere near me. do people say i am worried about this and - coming anywhere near me. do people say i am worried about this and ask i say i am worried about this and ask your advice?— your advice? no, because i am an actress and _ your advice? no, because i am an

actress and that _ your advice? no, because i am an actress and that would _ your advice? no, because i am an actress and that would be - your advice? no, because i am an actress and that would be insane. l actress and that would be insane. but i get a lot of birthing stories. people want to share their intimate stories of birthing. what is your approach? well, i had two c—sections. that is my approach. i have heard so much about birth. it is lovely people want to share that because it is important moments in their life but i have had a lot about childbirth and i came into the show not knowing about babies and childbirth. ., , ., ., ., show not knowing about babies and childbirth. ., ., ., ., childbirth. people do not have a filter when _ childbirth. people do not have a filter when they _ childbirth. people do not have a filter when they talk _ childbirth. people do not have a filter when they talk to - childbirth. people do not have a filter when they talk to you - childbirth. people do not have a l filter when they talk to you about their experiences because you are a nurse. ,, , . ., ., nurse. even me saying c-section and watchin: nurse. even me saying c-section and watching the — nurse. even me saying c-section and watching the shock _ nurse. even me saying c-section and watching the shock in _ nurse. even me saying c-section and watching the shock in your— nurse. even me saying c-section and watching the shock in your face. - watching the shock in your face. that is the thing, it becomes a vocabulary we use. it is a natural thing we talk about like we do bread and eggs. i thing we talk about like we do bread and er s. , . thing we talk about like we do bread andens. , . , and eggs. i expected happens in unlikely locations, _ and eggs. i expected happens in unlikely locations, on _ and eggs. i expected happens in unlikely locations, on the - and eggs. i expected happens in unlikely locations, on the train, |

unlikely locations, on the train, and people go, oh, do you know what... ., , and people go, oh, do you know what... ., ., ., ., , and people go, oh, do you know what... ., ., ., ,,._ what... there was a famous story about it happening _ what... there was a famous story about it happening outside - what... there was a famous story about it happening outside of - about it happening outside of primark, where somebody gave birth. you have not been called in in that situation? it you have not been called in in that situation? , ., ., ., , , ., situation? it is going to happen one da , i am situation? it is going to happen one day. i am sure- _ situation? it is going to happen one day, i am sure. are _ situation? it is going to happen one day, i am sure. are you _ situation? it is going to happen one day, i am sure. are you filming - day, i am sure. are you filming soon? i go back to the king and i. i am filming call the midwife now and i go back to the king and i in november. you are doing the christmas special. we filmed that in june and now we are into the summer months and last week we were in bikinis on a beach in the cold weather filming.— bikinis on a beach in the cold weather filming. bikinis on a beach in the cold weather filminu. , ., weather filming. does it feel odd in june to be weather filming. does it feel odd in june to be doing — weather filming. does it feel odd in june to be doing christmas? - weather filming. does it feel odd in june to be doing christmas? yes. l june to be doing christmas? yes. because the _ june to be doing christmas? yes. because the christmas _ june to be doing christmas? yes. because the christmas tree - june to be doing christmas? i'ezs because the christmas tree comes out. someone will be dressed up as father christmas. [30 out. someone will be dressed up as father christmas.— father christmas. do you feel ressure father christmas. do you feel pressure on _ father christmas. do you feel pressure on call _ father christmas. do you feel pressure on call the - father christmas. do you feel pressure on call the midwife,

father christmas. do you feel- pressure on call the midwife, the christmas special, because everybody talks about it? even if you do not watch the series, this special is what people gravitate to. is there pressure to keep making it better and better? ithink pressure to keep making it better and better? i think so. pressure to keep making it better and better? ithink so. do pressure to keep making it better and better? i think so. do you feel it, because the writers obviously have it. , , , it, because the writers obviously have it. i i i i it, because the writers obviously haveit. i iii , it, because the writers obviously haveit. i , i, have it. yes, because it is part of the christmas _ have it. yes, because it is part of the christmas day _ have it. yes, because it is part of the christmas day programme i have it. yes, because it is part ofl the christmas day programme tv event. it has to live up to what it is worth. it event. it has to live up to what it is worth. i i, ,~ is worth. it is important. do you watch with _ is worth. it is important. do you watch with your _ is worth. it is important. do you watch with your family - is worth. it is important. do you watch with your family on - is worth. it is important. do you - watch with your family on christmas day? watch with your family on christmas da ? i, i, , watch with your family on christmas da ? , �* i, i, day? sometimes. but i am not good watching myself. _ day? sometimes. but i am not good watching myself. i _ day? sometimes. but i am not good watching myself. i leave _ day? sometimes. but i am not good watching myself. i leave the - day? sometimes. but i am not good watching myself. i leave the room i watching myself. i leave the room when i come on.— watching myself. i leave the room when i come on. ~ , i, i, i, i, when i come on. why not do that? you are performing — when i come on. why not do that? you are performing right— when i come on. why not do that? you are performing right now? _ are performing right now? filming now going back. good luck. a big change from midwife to governess. helen is performing in 'the king and i' around the uk until march 202a. you're watching bbc breakfast.

good morning. welcome to the nation's phone in. we really want to hear from you, this morning. it is your chance to express your view on and experience the big story of the day. knives. is your teen safe? horror at the tragic death of a is—year—old girl on her way to school in croydon, south london, yesterday. it isn't just a it isn'tjust a croydon or london problem, it is a national problem. witnesses have described how she was stabbed with a foot—long knife. a 17—year—old boy has been arrested. as you know, we can't go into the details of that case. but we can talk about the issue. one of the cards left near the attack said," sorry we live in this crazy world, this makes no sense". can you