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there is something dangerous happening in america. there is an extremely �*s movement that does not share the basic beliefs in our democracy. share the basic beliefs in our democracy-— share the basic beliefs in our democra . ~ �* , g ., �* democracy. where's the joe biden? he's completely _ democracy. where's the joe biden? he's completely missing _ democracy. where's the joe biden? he's completely missing in - democracy. where's the joe biden? he's completely missing in action. | he's completely missing in action. you know— he's completely missing in action. you know who else is missing in action? — you know who else is missing in action? donald trump is missing in action _ action? donald trump is missing in action he — action? donald trump is missing in action. he should be on this stage tonight _ action. he should be on this stage tonight he — action. he should be on this stage tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record _ tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record is — tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record is. | tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record is— tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record is-— his record is. i am here to support president trump, _ his record is. i am here to support president trump, to _ his record is. i am here to support president trump, to tell _ his record is. i am here to support president trump, to tell mps - his record is. i am here to support president trump, to tell mps not l president trump, to tell mps not alone, _ president trump, to tell mps not alone, that — president trump, to tell mps not alone, that we _ president trump, to tell mps not alone, that we are _ president trump, to tell mps not alone, that we are with - president trump, to tell mps not alone, that we are with him. - alone, that we are with him. michigan _ alone, that we are with him. michigan is _ alone, that we are with him. michigan is with _ alone, that we are with him. michigan is with him. - alone, that we are with him. michigan is with him. and i alone, that we are with him. l michigan is with him. and that alone, that we are with him. - michigan is with him. and that we love him — something dangerous happening in america —joe biden something dangerous happening in america — joe biden warns voters that donald trump is a threat to us democracy. 46% of the electorate
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disagree. the two candidates are neck and neck in the national polls. the other seven republican running appear to be running into one another. should europe be planning for the possibility of a second trump term. from washington, former adviser to george w. bush ron christie, and the former leader of scottish labour kezia dugdale. they are you turning on plans to script schools of the charitable status. we'll have a tribute to one of the world's most iconic actors, sir michael gambon, who has died at the age of 82. president biden tries to avoid engaging publicly in the chaos that surrounds donald trump. one issue that he has spoken of as the threat
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he believes the former president still poses. on the anniversary of the january the 6th riot last year, he excuse donald trump of holding up dagger to the throat of the country's institutions. he returned to that team at the mccain institute, leaned after the late senatorjohn mccain, who spent his life denouncing autocrats around the globe. life denouncing autocrats around the lobe. , ,., ., ., , globe. there is something dangerous ha - enin: globe. there is something dangerous happening in — globe. there is something dangerous happening in america. _ globe. there is something dangerous happening in america. there - globe. there is something dangerous happening in america. there is- globe. there is something dangerous happening in america. there is an . happening in america. there is an extremely �*s movement that is not share the basic beliefs in our democracy. the maga moment. majority of republicans don't even subscribe to the ideology. there is no question that today's republican party is intimidated by maga extremist. fundamentally all institutions as we know it.
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i can't think of many states in america where that sort of message about democracy will resonate more loudly. about democracy will resonate more loudl . , ,, ., about democracy will resonate more loudl. , ,, ., ., ~ ., ., , loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's — loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's going _ loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's going to _ loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's going to be _ loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's going to be so - loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's going to be so vital- loudly. they know that arizona is a state that's going to be so vital in l state that's going to be so vital in the upcoming election. very clear messaging there coming from joe biden — he's not necessarily opposed to republican americans, he try to separate what he calls the maga driven republican party. you talking about donald trump. he might as well he said the donald trump specifically is the issue. he spoke quite a lot of his friendship with john mccain, and he will always remember he spoke a lot about his time as a prisoner of war. he had spoken about his relationship with democratic politicians. indeed, when he was running, this wasjohn mccain
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against later to become president obama when a republican supporter criticised obama in personal terms. he said, "no, ma'am, he is someone i have fundamental disagreements with, but he's a good family man." there's a very clear attempt byjoe biden to put this onto not necessarily a party political front, but rather a personal front. party political front, but rather a personalfront. he sent party political front, but rather a personal front. he sent on saturday just gone that part of the reason that he's standing at the age, 81, is because political violence referring back to the attacks on the capitol building would never, ever, ever, ever acceptable. ran capitol building would never, ever, ever, ever acceptable. ron christie, the message _ ever, ever acceptable. ron christie, the message that _ ever, ever acceptable. ron christie, the message that donald _ ever, ever acceptable. ron christie, the message that donald trump - ever, ever acceptable. ron christie, i the message that donald trump would be telling is that he's fighting to drain the swamp. how powerful is that message on the right?
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crosstalk how much they play down with the right of the country. joe biden and donald trump of all party members pulling roughly the same level. i guess what they were fighting for his those undecided voters. they're looking for people who are sold by the message of donald trump. whatever you think about donald trump, whether you love or loathe him, what he's got is energy. he's got charisma. the message that he sells, people couldn't rightly criticise. what do you mean when you say make america great again? when exactly was america great? i haven't had a good answer.— had a good answer. let's put that auestion had a good answer. let's put that question to _ had a good answer. let's put that question to ron _ had a good answer. let's put that question to ron christie. - had a good answer. let's put that question to ron christie. do - had a good answer. let's put that question to ron christie. do you | question to ron christie. do you think that message that donald trump is taking is still persuasive on the right as it was in 2016? let me take
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two. good evening _ right as it was in 2016? let me take two. good evening to _ right as it was in 2016? let me take two. good evening to you. - right as it was in 2016? let me take two. good evening to you. it's goodj two. good evening to you. it's good to see _ two. good evening to you. it's good to see you — two. good evening to you. it's good to see you. the question really is, is america — to see you. the question really is, is america really a hard right or a hard _ is america really a hard right or a hard ieft — is america really a hard right or a hard left country in its electorate? i hard left country in its electorate? i would _ hard left country in its electorate? i would dare posit that where we're to win _ i would dare posit that where we're to win is _ i would dare posit that where we're to win is the — i would dare posit that where we're to win is the independent voters, the swing — to win is the independent voters, the swing voters. those are looking at education, health care, crime and other— at education, health care, crime and other issues — at education, health care, crime and other issues around the country. so yes, i_ other issues around the country. so yes, ithink— other issues around the country. so yes, i think the residence other issues around the country. so yes, ithink the residence is other issues around the country. so yes, i think the residence is still there _ yes, i think the residence is still there with — yes, i think the residence is still there with the trump base. whoever will emerge victorious, whether it's mr trent— will emerge victorious, whether it's mr trent or— will emerge victorious, whether it's mr trent or mr will emerge victorious, whether it's mrtrent or mr biden will emerge victorious, whether it's mr trent or mr biden —— mr trump. it's mr trent or mr biden —— mr trump. it's going— mr trent or mr biden —— mr trump. it's going to — mr trent or mr biden —— mr trump. it's going to be one of the independents believe and who did the independents believe and who did the independents believe and who did the independents believe can run the country? — independents believe can run the count ? ., , ., independents believe can run the count ? ., �* independents believe can run the count ? ., ., , country? kezia, you can't really se arate country? kezia, you can't really separate this _ country? kezia, you can't really separate this election - country? kezia, you can't really separate this election and - country? kezia, you can't really separate this election and the l separate this election and the retribution that donald trump is
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pursuing from the broader point that joe biden was making this afternoon. that is what would a second trump term look like? kezia?— term look like? kezia? from my perspective. _ term look like? kezia? from my perspective. i— term look like? kezia? from my perspective, ithink— term look like? kezia? from my perspective, i think a _ term look like? kezia? from my perspective, i think a second - term look like? kezia? from my- perspective, i think a second donald trump _ perspective, i think a second donald trump term — perspective, i think a second donald trump term would _ perspective, i think a second donald trump term would be _ perspective, i think a second donald trump term would be donald - perspective, i think a second donald trump term would be donald trump| trump term would be donald trump unleashed _ trump term would be donald trump unleashed and — trump term would be donald trump unleashed and unchained. _ trump term would be donald trump unleashed and unchained. it- trump term would be donald trump unleashed and unchained. it would. trump term would be donald trump i unleashed and unchained. it would be the whole _ unleashed and unchained. it would be the whole conversion _ unleashed and unchained. it would be the whole conversion where _ unleashed and unchained. it would be the whole conversion where he - unleashed and unchained. it would be the whole conversion where he would | the whole conversion where he would not feel— the whole conversion where he would not feel challenge _ the whole conversion where he would not feel challenge —— _ the whole conversion where he would not feel challenge —— the _ the whole conversion where he would not feel challenge —— the hulk- not feel challenge —— the hulk version — not feel challenge —— the hulk version he _ not feel challenge —— the hulk version. he talked _ not feel challenge —— the hulk version. he talked about - not feel challenge —— the hulk- version. he talked about removing america _ version. he talked about removing america from _ version. he talked about removing america from nato, _ version. he talked about removing america from nato, relighting - version. he talked about removing america from nato, relighting its. america from nato, relighting its relationship — america from nato, relighting its relationship with— america from nato, relighting its relationship with the _ america from nato, relighting its relationship with the european i relationship with the european union — relationship with the european union he's _ relationship with the european union. he's already— relationship with the european union. he's already said - relationship with the european union. he's already said somej relationship with the european - union. he's already said some hard things— union. he's already said some hard things about — union. he's already said some hard things about brussels. _ union. he's already said some hard things about brussels. a _ union. he's already said some hard things about brussels. a lot - union. he's already said some hard things about brussels. a lot of- things about brussels. a lot of people — things about brussels. a lot of people aren't _ things about brussels. a lot of people aren't concerned - things about brussels. a lot of people aren't concerned aboutj things about brussels. a lot of- people aren't concerned about what that mean _ people aren't concerned about what that mean in— people aren't concerned about what that mean in ukraine. _ people aren't concerned about what that mean in ukraine. i— people aren't concerned about what that mean in ukraine. i think- people aren't concerned about what that mean in ukraine. i think that'sl that mean in ukraine. i think that's where _ that mean in ukraine. i think that's where the — that mean in ukraine. i think that's where the fear _ that mean in ukraine. i think that's where the fear comes. _ that mean in ukraine. i think that's where the fear comes. i _ that mean in ukraine. i think that's where the fear comes. i think- that mean in ukraine. i think that's where the fear comes. i thinkjoe l where the fear comes. i thinkjoe bidens— where the fear comes. i thinkjoe biden's strategy— where the fear comes. i thinkjoe biden's strategy here _ where the fear comes. i thinkjoe biden's strategy here is - where the fear comes. i thinkjoe biden's strategy here is quite - biden's strategy here is quite clever — biden's strategy here is quite clever he's— biden's strategy here is quite clever. he's aware _ biden's strategy here is quite clever. he's aware that - biden's strategy here is quite clever. he's aware that bothl biden's strategy here is quite i clever. he's aware that both him and donald _
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clever. he's aware that both him and donald trump — clever. he's aware that both him and donald trump have _ clever. he's aware that both him and donald trump have bad _ clever. he's aware that both him and donald trump have bad poles. - donald trump have bad poles. what they both _ donald trump have bad poles. what they both need _ donald trump have bad poles. what they both need to _ donald trump have bad poles. what they both need to do _ donald trump have bad poles. what they both need to do is— donald trump have bad poles. what they both need to do is peel- they both need to do is peel off voters — they both need to do is peel off voters i— they both need to do is peel off voters. ithink— they both need to do is peel off voters. i think this is— they both need to do is peel off voters. i think this is the - they both need to do is peel off voters. i think this is the fourthj voters. i think this is the fourth speech— voters. i think this is the fourth speech where _ voters. i think this is the fourth speech where biden _ voters. i think this is the fourth speech where biden has - voters. i think this is the fourth speech where biden has given. voters. i think this is the fourth i speech where biden has given an attack— speech where biden has given an attack on — speech where biden has given an attack on democracy. _ speech where biden has given an attack on democracy. you - speech where biden has given an attack on democracy. you don't i speech where biden has given an - attack on democracy. you don't have to like _ attack on democracy. you don't have to like me. _ attack on democracy. you don't have to like me. you— attack on democracy. you don't have to like me, you don't— attack on democracy. you don't have to like me, you don't have _ attack on democracy. you don't have to like me, you don't have to like - to like me, you don't have to like everything — to like me, you don't have to like everything in _ to like me, you don't have to like everything in my— to like me, you don't have to like everything in my portfolio, - to like me, you don't have to like everything in my portfolio, but. to like me, you don't have to like. everything in my portfolio, but i'm the guy— everything in my portfolio, but i'm the guy you — everything in my portfolio, but i'm the guy you could _ everything in my portfolio, but i'm the guy you could trust _ everything in my portfolio, but i'm the guy you could trust with - the guy you could trust with american _ the guy you could trust with american democracy. - the guy you could trust with american democracy. [- the guy you could trust with american democracy. i think kezia is riaht, american democracy. i think kezia is right. ron. — american democracy. i think kezia is right. ron. this _ american democracy. i think kezia is right, ron. this is _ american democracy. i think kezia is right, ron. this is rolling _ american democracy. i think kezia is right, ron. this is rolling the - right, ron. this is rolling the pitch. and the shenanigans we may see again in 202a? pitch. and the shenanigans we may see again in 2024?— see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that _ see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that to _ see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that to be _ see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that to be true. _ see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that to be true. i _ see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that to be true. i think - see again in 2024? questionably, i believe that to be true. i think the | believe that to be true. i think the republican national committee, the national— republican national committee, the national arm of the republicans, is gearing _ national arm of the republicans, is gearing up— national arm of the republicans, is gearing up and saying, well, we can't _ gearing up and saying, well, we can't have — gearing up and saying, well, we can't have extended mail—in balance. we can't _ can't have extended mail—in balance. we can't have extended voting sessions _ we can't have extended voting sessions. i think the republicans are already gearing up and saying
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perhaps— are already gearing up and saying perhaps the democrats are going to try to _ perhaps the democrats are going to try to steal— perhaps the democrats are going to try to steal the election. they are going _ try to steal the election. they are going to — try to steal the election. they are going to put lawyers in the ground. as one _ going to put lawyers in the ground. as one who — going to put lawyers in the ground. as one who was on the ground in the 2000 _ as one who was on the ground in the 2000 election for then governor george — 2000 election for then governor george w. bush, i would say the optics _ george w. bush, i would say the optics and — george w. bush, i would say the optics and the tone and tenure have changed _ optics and the tone and tenure have changed unfortunately. i wouldn't say it's _ changed unfortunately. i wouldn't say it's a — changed unfortunately. i wouldn't say it's a threat to democracy, but i say it's a threat to democracy, but i hate _ say it's a threat to democracy, but i hate this— say it's a threat to democracy, but i hate this far out from said presidential election that we're already— presidential election that we're already having these discussions about _ already having these discussions about elections being stolen. that robabl about elections being stolen. that probably speaks — about elections being stolen. trust probably speaks to the risk that donald trump is underlining. if a donald trump is underlining. if a donald trump is underlining. if a donald trump win is perceived as a threat, his comments on ukraine was tojust trump second threat, his comments on ukraine was to just trump second turn is certainly a threat to the status quo. you might assume that european leaders are hard at work on a contingency plan. nearly two dozen
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european diplomats, there is no such plan that exists. let's speak to the man who wrote this article. i guess there are leaders in europe would welcome a second donald trump term. viktor orban among them. you might expect others would be preparing a plan. it doesn't seem that the case. no, what we have is a lot of leaders who call to prepare. they see this as a real possibility, they see the samples that we do. unlike in 2016, when a lot of people were in denial trump will be in president, they see it as reality. i think there isn't much beyond the calls to repair for trump's return. the questions are so huge they're difficult to take on. go on, have a stab at that. what
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should they be preparing? what go on, have a stab at that. what should they be preparing? what they should they be preparing? what they should be preparing _ should they be preparing? what they should be preparing for— should they be preparing? what they should be preparing for number- should they be preparing? what they should be preparing for number one | should be preparing for number one is that possiblee trump will come in. he tries to stir strike a deal with vladimir putin to end the ukraine war. europe could end up on its owned supporting ukraine. "we could continue to support ukraine if the united states splits off." drastically drawing down the us investment. how does europe stand up on its own two feet militarily and strategically? it would require a major disruption to the european way of life and also major questions about how we get organised. who would be in charge? this is not even on the table at the moment. people just aren't considering these big... talking to nick robinson... germany
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was part of the rhetoric frequently. they often came in for attacks. that relationship is reasonably strong. is there a do you think, within berlin and paris now about an industrial strategy that separates from america and a defence policy in which the europeans could stand on their own? , ., ~ which the europeans could stand on their own? , ., ,, ., their own? there is talk about buildin: their own? there is talk about building europe's _ their own? there is talk about building europe's strategic - their own? there is talk about - building europe's strategic economy. there's a big push to rebuild europe's military base. european countries have increased defence spending. they're doing it in alliance with the united states. europe has never been closer in many ways than underjoe biden. the prospect of splitting off is something that boggles the european mind. fora country like something that boggles the european mind. for a country like germany,
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which was so dependent on us leadership, it's beyond peel though my polite conversation. leadership, it's beyond peelthough my polite conversation.— my polite conversation. kezia, keir starmer was _ my polite conversation. kezia, keir starmer was asked _ my polite conversation. kezia, keir starmer was asked this _ my polite conversation. kezia, keir starmer was asked this week - my polite conversation. kezia, keir starmer was asked this week what| my polite conversation. kezia, keir i starmer was asked this week what he will do if it's a donald trump presidency. he says he'll have to work with him. i wonder how some of his supporters will feel about that. will he be one of those... will he be treated like one of those autocrats that people don't want here in london? i autocrats that people don't want here in london?— here in london? i think sir keir starmer was — here in london? i think sir keir starmer was right _ here in london? i think sir keir starmer was right to _ here in london? i think sir keir starmer was right to offer - here in london? i think sir keir| starmer was right to offer those remarks, — starmer was right to offer those remarks, because _ starmer was right to offer those remarks, because the _ starmer was right to offer those remarks, because the trans - starmer was right to offer those - remarks, because the trans atlantic alliance _ remarks, because the trans atlantic alliance is— remarks, because the trans atlantic alliance is more _ remarks, because the trans atlantic alliance is more important- remarks, because the trans atlantic alliance is more important than- alliance is more important than anyone — alliance is more important than anyone political— alliance is more important than anyone political figure. - alliance is more important than anyone political figure. it- alliance is more important than| anyone political figure. it needs alliance is more important than. anyone political figure. it needs to be maintained. _ anyone political figure. it needs to be maintained. keir— anyone political figure. it needs to be maintained. keir starmer- anyone political figure. it needs toj be maintained. keir starmer spent anyone political figure. it needs to. be maintained. keir starmer spent a lot of— be maintained. keir starmer spent a lot of time _ be maintained. keir starmer spent a lot oftime in— be maintained. keir starmer spent a lot of time in europe _ be maintained. keir starmer spent a lot of time in europe building - be maintained. keir starmer spent a lot of time in europe building his - lot of time in europe building his relationships— lot of time in europe building his relationships with _ lot of time in europe building his relationships with leaders. - lot of time in europe building hisl relationships with leaders. britain might— relationships with leaders. britain might be — relationships with leaders. britain might be out— relationships with leaders. britain might be out of— relationships with leaders. britain might be out of the _ relationships with leaders. britain might be out of the eu, _ relationships with leaders. britain might be out of the eu, so - relationships with leaders. britain might be out of the eu, so i - relationships with leaders. britain might be out of the eu, so i thinkj might be out of the eu, so i think he might— might be out of the eu, so i think he might be— might be out of the eu, so i think he might be working _
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might be out of the eu, so i think he might be working closer- might be out of the eu, so i think he might be working closer if- might be out of the eu, so i think. he might be working closer if labour win the _ he might be working closer if labour win the next— he might be working closer if labour win the next general— he might be working closer if labour win the next general election, - he might be working closer if labour win the next general election, i- win the next general election, i think— win the next general election, i think keir— win the next general election, i think keir starmer— win the next general election, i think keir starmer knows - win the next general election, i think keir starmer knows the l win the next general election, i. think keir starmer knows the key win the next general election, i- think keir starmer knows the key to success— think keir starmer knows the key to success is— think keir starmer knows the key to success is working _ think keir starmer knows the key to success is working with _ think keir starmer knows the key to success is working with european i success is working with european partners — success is working with european partners and _ success is working with european partners and keeping _ success is working with european partners and keeping that - partners and keeping that transatlantic— partners and keeping that transatlantic alliance. - partners and keeping that transatlantic alliance. i i partners and keeping that i transatlantic alliance. i hope partners and keeping that - transatlantic alliance. i hope the diplomat — transatlantic alliance. i hope the diplomat who _ transatlantic alliance. i hope the diplomat who gave _ transatlantic alliance. i hope the diplomat who gave it _ transatlantic alliance. i hope the diplomat who gave it to - transatlantic alliance. i hope the diplomat who gave it to the - diplomat who gave it to the journalist _ diplomat who gave it to the journalist hasn't _ diplomat who gave it to the journalist hasn't said - diplomat who gave it to the journalist hasn't said it... . diplomat who gave it to the l journalist hasn't said it... but diplomat who gave it to the - journalist hasn't said it... but he talks— journalist hasn't said it... but he talks about — journalist hasn't said it... but he talks about the _ journalist hasn't said it... but he talks about the three _ journalist hasn't said it... but he talks about the three days - journalist hasn't said it... but he talks about the three days rightl talks about the three days right now _ talks about the three days right now the — talks about the three days right now. the germans _ talks about the three days right now. the germans are - talks about the three days right - now. the germans are absolutely... sorry. _ now. the germans are absolutely... sorry. the _ now. the germans are absolutely... sorry, the germans— now. the germans are absolutely... sorry, the germans are _ now. the germans are absolutely... sorry, the germans are in _ now. the germans are absolutely... sorry, the germans are in denial- now. the germans are absolutely... | sorry, the germans are in denial and the british— sorry, the germans are in denial and the british are — sorry, the germans are in denial and the british are just _ sorry, the germans are in denial and the british are just detached - sorry, the germans are in denial and the british are just detached from i the british are just detached from reality _ the british are just detached from reality that's— the british are just detached from reality. that's led _ the british are just detached from reality. that's led to _ the british are just detached from reality. that's led to some - the british are just detached from reality. that's led to some uk - reality. that's led to some uk figures — reality. that's led to some uk figures like _ reality. that's led to some uk figures like william _ reality. that's led to some uk figures like william hague - reality. that's led to some uk i figures like william hague saying let's not— figures like william hague saying let's notjust _ figures like william hague saying let's not just sit _ figures like william hague saying let's notjust sit back— figures like william hague saying let's not just sit back and - let's notjust sit back and anticipate _ let's notjust sit back and anticipate day— let's notjust sit back and anticipate day one. - let's not just sit back and - anticipate day one. wondering countries _ anticipate day one. wondering countries can— anticipate day one. wondering countries can do _ anticipate day one. wondering countries can do now - anticipate day one. wondering countries can do now is - anticipate day one. wondering countries can do now is makel anticipate day one. wondering - countries can do now is make sure they— countries can do now is make sure they all— countries can do now is make sure they all make _ countries can do now is make sure they all make 2%_ countries can do now is make sure they all make 2% gdp _ countries can do now is make sure they all make 2% gdp defence - they all make 2% gdp defence spending _ they all make 2% gdp defence sendina. ., v ., they all make 2% gdp defence shendin. ., �*, ., ., they all make 2% gdp defence s-uendin. . �*, . . spending. that's an important point, kezia. just
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spending. that's an important point, kezia- just to — spending. that's an important point, kezia. just to put _ spending. that's an important point, kezia. just to put this _ spending. that's an important point, kezia. just to put this to _ spending. that's an important point, kezia. just to put this to ron - kezia. just to put this to ron christie, i don't think it's understood in congressional circles that european support for ukraine now outstrips what the united states sent to ukraine. they've ramped up production on the continent. the commissioner is in charge of industrial policy. he's sort of revamped the arsenals that europe has. production is being ramped up. when donald trump this time looks at europe and says they are not doing enough, that wouldn't be true, would it? i enough, that wouldn't be true, would it? ., �* 4' enough, that wouldn't be true, would it? ., �* ~ _ enough, that wouldn't be true, would it? y ~ _ ., ., enough, that wouldn't be true, would it? ., �* ~ _ ., ., ., it? i don't think by and large that that would _ it? i don't think by and large that that would be _ it? i don't think by and large that that would be true. _ it? i don't think by and large that that would be true. i _ it? i don't think by and large that that would be true. i think- it? i don't think by and large that| that would be true. i think europe really— that would be true. i think europe really has — that would be true. i think europe really has stepped up. you look at our relationship with germany, with france, _ our relationship with germany, with france, and — our relationship with germany, with france, and other members obviously of the _ france, and other members obviously of the european union who i think have _ of the european union who i think have stepped up to try to push back the russian invasion. i think donald trump, _ the russian invasion. i think donald trump, if— the russian invasion. i think donald trump, if you look to a potential second _ trump, if you look to a potential second term, would say they're not
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paying _ second term, would say they're not paying the — second term, would say they're not paying the 2% gdp. i think you'd find a _ paying the 2% gdp. i think you'd find a lot— paying the 2% gdp. i think you'd find a lot of people in the continent that would say that's not true _ continent that would say that's not true let's— continent that would say that's not true. let's look at the percentage of gdp _ true. let's look at the percentage of gdp that we're actually interpreting not only to nato, but contributing to the war effort in ukraine — contributing to the war effort in ukraine i— contributing to the war effort in ukraine. ithink contributing to the war effort in ukraine. i think that he might have a harder— ukraine. i think that he might have a harder sell talking about... do ou a harder sell talking about... you think it's a harder sell talking about... drr you think it's understood, just very quickly, in washingtonjust you think it's understood, just very quickly, in washington just how much fear there is in europe about a second trump determine how long the united states might be vis—a—vis the things it really considers important like china? i things it really considers important like china? ., ., , ., like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week _ like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week and _ like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week and i _ like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week and i can _ like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week and i can tell - like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week and i can tell you - like china? i do. iwas in ireland last week and i can tell you the | last week and i can tell you the number— last week and i can tell you the number of— last week and i can tell you the number of people once they realise you're _ number of people once they realise you're an _ number of people once they realise you're an american, they, "is donald trump _ you're an american, they, "is donald trump really — you're an american, they, "is donald trump really going to be president again. _ trump really going to be president again, what does that mean for us?" what _ again, what does that mean for us?" what is _ again, what does that mean for us?" what is i _ again, what does that mean for us?" what is i mean for the continent, what _ what is i mean for the continent, what does — what is i mean for the continent, what does that mean for world security? — what does that mean for world security? i was in ireland and heard it first _ security? i was in ireland and heard it first hand — security? i was in ireland and heard it first hand from a number of people — it first hand from a number of people i— it first hand from a number of people i spoke to.—
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people i spoke to. really interesting. _ people i spoke to. really interesting. it's - people i spoke to. really interesting. it's a - people i spoke to. really interesting. it's a really l people i spoke to. really - interesting. it's a really good article in politico. nicholas, thank you very much. around the world and across the uk — this is bbc news. the male online has terminated its contract with dan wooton, previously suspended. they recently suspended fox during a live show on tuesday. the backlog of serious cases waiting to be heard at crown courts in england and wales has hit a new all—time record. pictures revealed there were wearable over 64,000 at sound —— outstanding cases. the average rate on five—year mortgage has fallen below 6% since the first time since
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earlyjuly. new figures show the typical rate dropped to 5.99% — down from 6.03 yesterday. lenders have been cutting rates after the bank of england ended a run of 14 consecutive interest rate increases. you're live with bbc news. let's turn to last night's debate. the second of three televised debates didn't start that well. he stammers. thank you. i'm not sure it not an he stammers. thank you. i'm not sure it got any better- _ he stammers. thank you. i'm not sure it got any better. crosstalk _ crosstalk gentlemen, you will have your turn! listen— gentlemen, you will have your turn! listen up! _ crosstalk
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seven candidates all desperate. they're pulling �*s 37%, 16 points behind president trump, who wasn't even there. the former president was hundreds of miles away in michigan. in california, chris christie once again labelled him a coward. i in california, chris christie once again labelled him a coward. i want to look at the _ again labelled him a coward. i want to look at the camera _ again labelled him a coward. i want to look at the camera until- again labelled him a coward. i want to look at the camera until you - to look at the camera until you donald. — to look at the camera until you donald. i— to look at the camera until you donald, i know— to look at the camera until you donald, i know you're - to look at the camera until you i donald, i know you're watching. to look at the camera until you - donald, i know you're watching. you can't _ donald, i know you're watching. you can't help— donald, i know you're watching. you can't help yourself. _ donald, i know you're watching. you can't help yourself. i— donald, i know you're watching. you can't help yourself. i know— donald, i know you're watching. you can't help yourself. i know you're . can't help yourself. i know you're watching, — can't help yourself. i know you're watching, and _ can't help yourself. i know you're watching, and you're _ can't help yourself. i know you're watching, and you're not - can't help yourself. i know you're watching, and you're not here - watching, and you're not here tonight— watching, and you're not here tonight - _ watching, and you're not here tonight - not— watching, and you're not here tonight — not because - watching, and you're not here tonight — not because of- watching, and you're not here| tonight — not because of pools watching, and you're not here - tonight — not because of pools and not because — tonight — not because of pools and not because of— tonight — not because of pools and not because of your— tonight — not because of pools and not because of your indictments. i not because of your indictments. you're _ not because of your indictments. you're not — not because of your indictments. you're not here _ not because of your indictments. you're not here tonight - not because of your indictments. you're not here tonight becausel you're not here tonight because you're _ you're not here tonight because you're afraid _ you're not here tonight because you're afraid of _ you're not here tonight because you're afraid of being _ you're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on- you're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on this . you're not here tonight because i you're afraid of being on this stage in defending — you're afraid of being on this stage in defending your— you're afraid of being on this stage in defending your record. - you're afraid of being on this stage in defending your record. if- you're afraid of being on this stage in defending your record. if you'rel in defending your record. if you're talking _ in defending your record. if you're talking these _ in defending your record. if you're talking these things _ in defending your record. if you're talking these things and _ in defending your record. if you're talking these things and let - in defending your record. if you're talking these things and let me i in defending your record. if you're i talking these things and let me tell you what's— talking these things and let me tell you what's going _ talking these things and let me tell you what's going to _ talking these things and let me tell you what's going to happen. - talking these things and let me tell you what's going to happen. you i talking these things and let me tell. you what's going to happen. you keep doing _ you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, _ you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, nobody— you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, nobody of _ you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, nobody of will _ you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, nobody of will call - you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, nobody of will call you - doing that, nobody of will call you donald _ doing that, nobody of will call you donald trump, _ doing that, nobody of will call you donald trump, we're _ doing that, nobody of will call you donald trump, we're going - doing that, nobody of will call you donald trump, we're going to - doing that, nobody of will call you donald trump, we're going to call you donald — donald trump, we're going to call you donald duck. _ donald trump, we're going to call you donald duck.— donald trump, we're going to call you donald duck. donald trump is -a in: no you donald duck. donald trump is paying no price — you donald duck. donald trump is paying no price for _ you donald duck. donald trump is paying no price for skipping - you donald duck. donald trump is paying no price for skipping these | paying no price for skipping these debates. his polling has increased
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from 52 to 54%. unlikely to resave the race. let's speak to the policy is jointed list david... the race. let's speak to the policy isjointed list david... what is jointed list david... what were your impressions? o. is jointed list david... what were your impressions? 0. he's is jointed list david... what were your impressions? o. he'sjust gone. he's not there. ron christie, your impressions? i he's not there. ron christie, your impressions?— impressions? i believe for having worked with _ impressions? i believe for having worked with two _ impressions? i believe for having worked with two different - worked with two different presidential candidates and three presidential candidates and three presidential elections that if you want _ presidential elections that if you want the — presidential elections that if you want the honour and the privilege and the _ want the honour and the privilege and the opportunity to represent the american _ and the opportunity to represent the american people, you have to show up. american people, you have to show up the _ american people, you have to show up. the other hand, i think if you're — up. the other hand, i think if you're donald trump, you're looking at this— you're donald trump, you're looking at this and _ you're donald trump, you're looking at this and you can add everybody else's_ at this and you can add everybody else's percentage and say you still can't _ else's percentage and say you still can't touch— else's percentage and say you still can't touch me. what we saw last night _ can't touch me. what we saw last night was — can't touch me. what we saw last night was a — can't touch me. what we saw last night was a win for donald trump. those _ night was a win for donald trump. those folks— night was a win for donald trump. those folks did not look, in my
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humble — those folks did not look, in my humble opinion, decidedly presidential. they were yelling, talking — presidential. they were yelling, talking each other. as a debate coach, — talking each other. as a debate coach, the _ talking each other. as a debate coach, the last thing you want to do is look— coach, the last thing you want to do is look rude — coach, the last thing you want to do is look rude and not like. we got a lot of— is look rude and not like. we got a lot of rudeness and a lot of yelling last night — lot of rudeness and a lot of yelling last ni . ht. �* , lot of rudeness and a lot of yelling last niuht. �*, ., ~ lot of rudeness and a lot of yelling last niuht. �*, ., ,, ., ., last night. let's talk about ron desantis. everybody _ last night. let's talk about ron desantis. everybody knows - last night. let's talk about ron desantis. everybody knows a l last night. let's talk about ron l desantis. everybody knows a bit about him. he was the one that was supposed to be the pretender to the throne. it took him 15 minutes to get in. finally he spoke, and this is what he said. find get in. finally he spoke, and this is what he said.— get in. finally he spoke, and this is what he said. and you know who else is missing _ is what he said. and you know who else is missing in _ is what he said. and you know who else is missing in action? - is what he said. and you know who else is missing in action? donald l else is missing in action? donald trump is missing in action. he should be on this stage tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record, where they added seven 7.8 trillion to the debt. that set the stage for our inflation. the to the debt. that set the stage for our inflation.— our inflation. the thing that confuses — our inflation. the thing that confuses me _ our inflation. the thing that confuses me is _ our inflation. the thing that confuses me is that - our inflation. the thing that confuses me is that this - our inflation. the thing that j confuses me is that this the our inflation. the thing that - confuses me is that this the week - confuses me is that this the week — i don't know what they're running for because this the week when donald trump is convicted of fraud,
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it's a week when he says he wants to execute the chair of the joint chiefs. they don't even mention it. and over an hour, they don't even mention it. they sort of touch on his past record. what are they waiting for?— his past record. what are they waitin: for? , . ,, ., waiting for? christian, like ron, i sent a waiting for? christian, like ron, i spent a long _ waiting for? christian, like ron, i spent a long time _ waiting for? christian, like ron, i spent a long time in _ waiting for? christian, like ron, i spent a long time in previous - waiting for? christian, like ron, i. spent a long time in previous years training _ spent a long time in previous years training other— spent a long time in previous years training other politicians _ spent a long time in previous years training other politicians for- training other politicians for events— training other politicians for events like _ training other politicians for events like this. _ training other politicians for events like this. i've - training other politicians for events like this. i've also i training other politicians for. events like this. i've also done guite _ events like this. i've also done quite a — events like this. i've also done quite a few— events like this. i've also done quite a few of— events like this. i've also done quite a few of them. _ events like this. i've also done quite a few of them. and - events like this. i've also done | quite a few of them. and there events like this. i've also done i quite a few of them. and there is a theory— quite a few of them. and there is a theory behind _ quite a few of them. and there is a theory behind the _ quite a few of them. and there is a theory behind the approach - quite a few of them. and there is a theory behind the approach of - theory behind the approach of staying — theory behind the approach of staying silent _ theory behind the approach of staying silent for— theory behind the approach of staying silent for the - theory behind the approach of staying silent for the first - theory behind the approach of staying silent for the first 15 l staying silent for the first 15 minutes _ staying silent for the first 15 minutes. you _ staying silent for the first 15 minutes. you don't - staying silent for the first 15 minutes. you don't want. staying silent for the first 15 minutes. you don't want to| staying silent for the first 15 . minutes. you don't want to be staying silent for the first 15 - minutes. you don't want to be the one that _ minutes. you don't want to be the one that starts _ minutes. you don't want to be the one that starts interrupted, - minutes. you don't want to be thel one that starts interrupted, raising your voice — one that starts interrupted, raising yourvoice~ in— one that starts interrupted, raising yourvoice~ inan— one that starts interrupted, raising your voice. in an hour—long - one that starts interrupted, raising i your voice. in an hour—long debate, your voice. in an hour—long debate, you really— your voice. in an hour—long debate, you really want _ your voice. in an hour—long debate, you really want to _ your voice. in an hour—long debate, you really want to land _ your voice. in an hour—long debate, you really want to land record - you really want to land record message _ you really want to land record message and _ you really want to land record message and do— you really want to land record message and do it _ you really want to land record message and do it well. - you really want to land record message and do it well. i- you really want to land record. message and do it well. i think that's— message and do it well. i think that's what— message and do it well. i think that's what we _ message and do it well. i think that's what we had _ message and do it well. i think that's what we had from - message and do it well. i think. that's what we had from desantis, message and do it well. i think- that's what we had from desantis, he felt this— that's what we had from desantis, he felt this clip _ that's what we had from desantis, he felt this clip was _ that's what we had from desantis, he felt this clip was all— that's what we had from desantis, he felt this clip was all he _ that's what we had from desantis, he felt this clip was all he needed - that's what we had from desantis, he felt this clip was all he needed to - felt this clip was all he needed to do and _ felt this clip was all he needed to do and hope _ felt this clip was all he needed to do and hope that _ felt this clip was all he needed to do and hope that american - felt this clip was all he needed to i do and hope that american viewers would _ do and hope that american viewers would pick— do and hope that american viewers would pick up — do and hope that american viewers would pick up the _ do and hope that american viewers would pick up the news _ do and hope that american viewers would pick up the news about - do and hope that american viewers l would pick up the news about donald trump _ would pick up the news about donald trump and _ would pick up the news about donald trump and his— would pick up the news about donald trump and his activities _ would pick up the news about donald trump and his activities over - would pick up the news about donald trump and his activities over the - trump and his activities over the past _ trump and his activities over the past week — trump and his activities over the
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past week he _ trump and his activities over the past week. he needs _ trump and his activities over the past week. he needs to - trump and his activities over the past week. he needs to be - trump and his activities over the past week. he needs to be the l trump and his activities over the - past week. he needs to be the strong luy past week. he needs to be the strong guy in— past week. he needs to be the strong guy in the _ past week. he needs to be the strong guy in the platform _ past week. he needs to be the strong guy in the platform. he _ past week. he needs to be the strong guy in the platform. he succeeded . past week. he needs to be the strong guy in the platform. he succeeded to| guy in the platform. he succeeded to that extent _ guy in the platform. he succeeded to that extent to — guy in the platform. he succeeded to that extent to l— guy in the platform. he succeeded to that extent to.— that extent to. i listened to the democrat van _ that extent to. i listened to the democrat van jones _ that extent to. i listened to the democrat van jones and - that extent to. i listened to the democrat van jones and i - that extent to. i listened to the i democrat van jones and i thought that extent to. i listened to the - democrat van jones and i thought he democrat vanjones and i thought he made her really important part —— a really important point. he said this is really about the direction of the party writ large. these seven candidates are the voice of the party and what their mainstreaming here on stage is a tax on the children of illegal immigrants, the trouble of banning ukraine, federal ban on abortion up to six weeks. they talk about launching a war on the drug cartels in mexico. you can listen to liz cheney, who i know is a good friend of yours, or mitt romney, but it's these seven people who represent the direction of the party and i wonder what you make of this. ~ . , ., ., this. with the exception of tim scott from _ this. with the exception of tim scott from south _ this. with the exception of tim scott from south carolina, - this. with the exception of tim i scott from south carolina, nobody talks about what they're in favour of or _
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talks about what they're in favour of or what — talks about what they're in favour of or what they're for. they only talk about — of or what they're for. they only talk about what they're against. i think— talk about what they're against. i think ironically enough, being at the ronald reagan presidential centre. — the ronald reagan presidential centre, ronald reagan always spoke about _ centre, ronald reagan always spoke about what he was for. he talked about _ about what he was for. he talked about a _ about what he was for. he talked about a new dawn in america, and i thought— about a new dawn in america, and i thought how— about a new dawn in america, and i thought how ironic it was that these people _ thought how ironic it was that these people are — thought how ironic it was that these people are talking about everything they're _ people are talking about everything they're against in the home of ronald — they're against in the home of ronald reagan. maybe they could do break through and get more voters they spoke about what they're for. in they spoke about what they're for. in my _ they spoke about what they're for. in my opinion, it was a disaster last night _ in my opinion, it was a disaster last night-— in my opinion, it was a disaster last niuht. �* ., ., ,, last night. and one thing we talked about, last night. and one thing we talked about. donald _ last night. and one thing we talked about, donald trump _ last night. and one thing we talked about, donald trump and - last night. and one thing we talked about, donald trump and the - last night. and one thing we talked | about, donald trump and the threat he is in the way people perceive him, maxillary, but the thing that struck me is he's much better —— kezia. he's much better campaigning as the outsider. "i represent you." if you're an opponent of his, he's
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that much more dangerous in a cost of living crisis because he's a populist. of living crisis because he's a --oulist. ., v of living crisis because he's a --oulist. . �*, , of living crisis because he's a “oulist. . �*, , . populist. that's exactly what i was coin: populist. that's exactly what i was auoin to populist. that's exactly what i was going to say- _ populist. that's exactly what i was going to say- it's _ populist. that's exactly what i was going to say. it's astonishing - populist. that's exactly what i was going to say. it's astonishing that| going to say. it's astonishing that this is— going to say. it's astonishing that this is what— going to say. it's astonishing that this is what global _ going to say. it's astonishing that this is what global population - going to say. it's astonishing that. this is what global population does to our— this is what global population does to our politics _ this is what global population does to our politics. despite _ this is what global population does to our politics. despite being - to our politics. despite being incredibly— to our politics. despite being incredibly institutionalised i to our politics. despite being i incredibly institutionalised and being — incredibly institutionalised and being in— incredibly institutionalised and being in the _ incredibly institutionalised and being in the most— incredibly institutionalised and being in the most powerful- incredibly institutionalised and i being in the most powerful seat. incredibly institutionalised and - being in the most powerful seat. as president— being in the most powerful seat. as president of— being in the most powerful seat. as president of the _ being in the most powerful seat. as president of the united _ being in the most powerful seat. as president of the united states. - president of the united states. it does _ president of the united states. it does work— president of the united states. it does work for _ president of the united states. it does work for him. _ president of the united states. it does work for him. i— president of the united states. it does work for him. i think - president of the united states. it does work for him. i think the i president of the united states. it. does work for him. i think the other candidates — does work for him. i think the other candidates have _ does work for him. i think the other candidates have very _ does work for him. i think the other candidates have very little - does work for him. i think the other candidates have very little choice i candidates have very little choice other— candidates have very little choice other than — candidates have very little choice other than to _ candidates have very little choice other than to respond _ candidates have very little choice other than to respond rashly- candidates have very little choice other than to respond rashly to l other than to respond rashly to that _ other than to respond rashly to that the — other than to respond rashly to that. the rational— other than to respond rashly to that. the rational response - other than to respond rashly to that. the rational response is i other than to respond rashly to l that. the rational response is to say the — that. the rational response is to say the american _ that. the rational response is to say the american people - that. the rational response is to| say the american people deserve that. the rational response is to- say the american people deserve you to turn— say the american people deserve you to turn up— say the american people deserve you to turn up and — say the american people deserve you to turn up and debate. _ say the american people deserve you to turn up and debate. we'll- say the american people deserve you to turn up and debate. we'll have - say the american people deserve you to turn up and debate. we'll have a l to turn up and debate. we'll have a strong _ to turn up and debate. we'll have a strong history— to turn up and debate. we'll have a strong history of— to turn up and debate. we'll have a strong history of in _ to turn up and debate. we'll have a strong history of in the _ strong history of in the united kingdom _ strong history of in the united kingdom but— strong history of in the united kingdom. but they— strong history of in the united kingdom. but they are - strong history of in the united kingdom. but they are an - strong history of in the united - kingdom. but they are an integral part of— kingdom. but they are an integral part of how— kingdom. but they are an integral part of how american _ kingdom. but they are an integral part of how american does - kingdom. but they are an integral part of how american does is - part of how american does is politics _ part of how american does is olitics. ,., ., ,., . . part of how american does is olitics. . �* , politics. good point. we'll be right back. stay with _ politics. good point. we'll be right back. stay with us. _
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hello there. much of the sunshine we got to see today was quite hazy in nature, thanks to a mix of high cloud and wildfire smoke from north america that was blown all the way across the atlantic in the wake of storm agnes, which you can see here swinging away from our shores. there is, though, another weather system now pushing in from the west, already bringing some of us some outbreaks of rain which will continue through the evening and into the night. some of that rain will be pretty heavy. so, as we head into the night, some pretty wet weather for a time in western scotland, drying up there in northern ireland. but the heaviest rain, i think, will be across parts of south wales and then up into the midlands and lincolnshire. there could be enough rain in one or two locations, perhaps most especially in the south of wales, for some localised flooding and some travel disruption. and then that rain band's weakening all the while, pushing towards the south—east corner, where it is going to stay very mild. further north and west, something cooler and fresher to take us into friday morning. so, this weather system mayjust take a little bit of time to clear from the south—east corner
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through tomorrow morning. high pressure to the south, low pressure to the north — that brings a mix of weather fortunes. the further south you are, it should be mostly dry, not too many showers, plenty of sunshine. further north, some sunshine, too, but more in the way of showers, particularly in the west of scotland, with gales possible in the far north. certainly quite a windy day across scotland. temperatures of 13 degrees in lerwick and 20 degrees in london. now, friday night will be quite chilly as this ridge of high pressure topples its way eastwards, but it doesn't last long. here comes our next rain—bearing weather system for saturday. some heavy bursts of rain pushing across northern ireland, fringing into parts of north wales, north—west england and then up across scotland. further south, we'll see some spells of sunshine. it may just start to feel a little warmer and a little more humid. that's certainly a theme we will take with us into sunday. we could see highs of 23 degrees in the south—east corner, given enough sunshine. there will be a band of cloud and showery rain draped somewhere across central,
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house republicans have opened the first hearing of an impeachment inquiry intojoe biden, as they try to tie him to the business dealings of his son. ido i do not believe that the current evidence would support current articles of impeachment. that is something in angry would have to establish. but i also do believe that the houses past the threshold for an impeachment inquiry into the conduct of president biden. labour has reportedly u—turned on its pledge to scrap the charitable status of private schools here in england, though it says it will still introduce 20% vat ong school fees if the party wins the next general election. the labour leader sir keir starmer had previously said that the charitable status of private schools could not be justified.
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