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the us capitol. more than 1,000 people are facing charges. the most notorious is enrique tarrio. he's banned from everything. he's the most banned person in the world. tarrio was the leader of a right—wing extremist group. he stands accused of trying to overthrow the us government. well, the proud boys were central because they were ready and willing to fight. so was tarrio the puppet master, or something else? i think he was kind of nerdy when he was younger. all of a sudden with proud boys, he was the fonz. i think he's very interested in his image. i think he might be a charlatan, to be perfectly honest. tarrio is loved and loathed in equal measure. can you hear it? can you hear this? suourme their entire stupid | message has become about me and i could not be any happier.
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news: opening statements got under way _ in the trial of five men tied to the extremist group the proud boys. that includes long—time leader enrique tarrio. the trial comes just weeks. after two leaders of another extremist group, the 0ath keepers, were convicted l of seditious conspiracy. tarrio is perhaps the - highest—profile defendant to face jurors yet, in the attack. - tarrio had nothing to do with the events ofjanuary 6th. he was not there. he was not present. he did not incite or orchestrate any attack on the capitol and i think the evidence is going to be clear. all we want is the truth to come out during this trial. it's obvious that the government has thrown all the resources possible prosecuting the people onjanuary 6th.
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it's an issue of finding - a scapegoat for what transpired onjanuary 6th. enrique tarrio to me is such an interesting character. you know, he's the national ringleaderfor the proud boys and he sits at the top of theirfood chain. he considers himself a propaganda minister, i think. and so i think as a leader of that group — and he did have political aspirations for a while — i think that he just likes to be the, you know, the front—facing figure and the smooth talker and likes to represent what the proud boys are supposed to be. and...yeah. i think he might be a charlatan, to be perfectly honest. for three years, enrique tarrio let our cameras follow him. they gave me this at the atlanta rally, and i don't know what you do with it because usually it's
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like the finger and it's like a stop sign. like you... you know, with a finger, you know, like... ijust don't understand that. every time i do some type of interview with some media company, the first thing that they do is they ask the same questions. "why are you guys white supremacists? "are you racist?" or, "are you fascists?" and like i have to first... it's like i spend the first couple of minutes in these interviews like, "no, no, no, no. "i denounce, denounce, denounce, denounce." when we were filming with enrique tarrio, he said that nothing was off—limits. "you can ask me anything," he told us. you got to try this. it's great. what is it? ok, so it's an empanada with guava and cheese. oh, i heard of these. i never tried it. it's not so much as i'm antifascist, as i'm anti—authoritarian. fascism is an authoritarian ideology. so is communism.
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enrique tarrio is an afro—cuban who grew up in miami, and speaks spanish with his family. on paper, he's a very unlikely far—right leader. i've always been political. my family was executed at the order of che guevara. so, you know, from birth, i was very political. i was a trump supporter from day one. in 2012, he was thinking about running, and at that point i said, "this guy is the guy that's going to win." and then he decided not to run at that point, which i thought was a great idea. he wouldn't have beat 0bama in 2012. enrique tarrio is charming, but also elusive. as a journalist, he can be hard to pin down. he can be likeable one minute and say incredibly offensive things the next. but among his followers,
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he inspires devotion. you can just tell people that i have a special irish pool. it's green! there would be some rally and he would be there and he was kind of a nobody at the time. he was a proud boy. and then i had friends that were good friends of his. that's how we would be around each other. you know, there would be different events that he would, he would be there. he would be speaking. he's just always been there. i'm really protective of him because people don't know him. he's not a white supremacist. he's got a soft heart, and he's for the same things i'm for. he's... he's a conservative. he's a rock star now. i knew him when he wasn't a rock star.
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like, seriously, like... i'm like... the proud boys started as an all—male drinking club. i played on this table four times the night after i built it. and i just haven't. .. i haven't used it. the government and the media, they're not after the proud boys. we're just in their way. we'rejust in theirway because what scares them is our voices. that's why they don't want us on facebook and twitter. we're wrongthink. that's not allowed. how dare us go against the narrative? how dare us go against the deep state? how dare us go against the democrats and their socialist agenda? i'm going to see if i can swivel the hip. i full power. i like that. yeah. the founder of the proud boys is gavin mcinnes. that's the man in the hat. 0w! all right. come on, now. that's good. come on. i didn't have to promote it.
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it just blew up. and where it really blows up is left—wing cities- like los angeles, chicago, i new york, because you can't talk patriotic stuff in these cities. i and it was a place where guys could notjust relax and be - dudes and fart and not hold out chairs or anything, - but it was a place where - you could talk about trump. but as the trump years wore on, the proud boys became notorious for violent clashes with police and antifascist protesters. they were instantly recognisable in black and yellow fred perry polo shirts, and they often wore tactical vests. they said they were fighting communism and that they were there to save america. there were proud boy chapters in almost every state in the us, and in time, a new leader emerged. enrique tarrio. i think he was kind of nerdy. when he was younger and all of a sudden with proud | boys, he was the fonz. and i think he fell in love with the attention. - enrique loves to rally. he loves to get out there.
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while he leads a group that essentially is magnetised to violent situations, right, where i have filmed people who essentially directly report to him in these immense street fights with their adversaries, with media in some cases, enrique himself is always very smiling and bubbly with the cameras. we're in the midst of a fight, he'll crack little jokes with the media. i am a proud boy. i'm a proud boy. the first time i came to learn about who the proud boys were, were probably a little bit before donald trump mentioned them at the presidential debates in september 2020. are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down? give me a name. white supremacists. who would you like me to condemn? the proud boys? stand back and stand by.
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chanting: donald trump! before the debate stage mention, we had 22,000 proud boys worldwide. give or take. 12,000 of them residing here in the united states, the other ones residing abroad. and it's not hard to see that our numbers have been doubled since then. after the presidential election in 2020, the proud boys started to protest across the country, supporting donald trump's baseless claim that the election was stolen. they set themselves up as an informal army for the former president. i can't tell you if the election was stolen or not. i can't. and that's a problem. those people that think that the election are stolen... ..i understand them. because the united states government has meddled in the elections of...
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..almost any country outside of... here, look — south america, israel, all over europe. so is it crazy to think that the united states government would meddle in its own elections? i think that's a question worth... ..discussing, at least. but people don't want to discuss it. they just want to shut it down and say, no, the election is not stolen. well, the proud boys were central because they had attracted growing numbers and they were ready and willing to fight. and they also had a fascist street—fighting group. they were willing to take orders from the top and they were willing to watch the signals they were getting from those in power. on december 19th, in the early morning, maybe 1:42am, trump tweets this famous tweet about "coming to an event on january 6th.
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will be wild." immediately, the proud boys respond. the next day, enrique tarrio creates a special chapter that he calls ministry of self— defense. it's a very secretive group that is dedicated to planning for the january 6th rally. on january 4th 2021, enrique tarrio travelled by plane from miami to washington, dc, and flew straight into trouble. off the top at ten, the leader of the far—right group, - the proud boys arrested in the district and he's l being held by police. enrique tarrio is accused - of burning a black lives matter banner stolen from an historic black church. i the next day, he was released. he was issued with a stay—away order, banning him from washington, dc for the day of the capitol protest because of magazines for a gun that were found in his luggage
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when he was arrested. 0njanuary 5th, i picked enrique up and drove him to the phoenix hotel to pick up some other bags. and while we were there, we encountered the 0ath keepers, who are led by stewart rhodes. the 0ath keepers are a far—right militia group. enrique and stewart exchanged cordialities. after the meeting in the garage, we followed enrique, continued to follow enrique to baltimore. he said that he wanted to go to baltimore because he wanted to be close to his boys. those events would be at the centre of enrique tarrio's trial. but one element has baffled many observers. why did enrique tarrio allow himself to get arrested? the proud boys were very aware of the second amendment laws in dc, and i'm sure that enrique would have known that those magazines would have precipitated a much more severe penalty than just
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burning the flag. enrique was aware that he was going to be arrested. he was arrested with his magazines, which meant that he was going to be exiled from dc and thus was not on the battlefield when, um, um, january 6th happened. enrique took himself off the battlefield, knowing what was going to happen onjanuary 6th. a dc police officer has since been arrested and charged for tipping off enrique tarrio ahead of his arrest. 0n the morning ofjanuary 6th 2021, thousands of trump supporters descended on washington, dc, as lawmakers in congress were preparing to confirm joe biden as the new president. there's no doubt in my mind that donald trump's commanding objective was to overthrow the election, set aside the constitutional order, to claim power.
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trump: we're going to walk down and i'll be there with you. - we're going to walk down to the capitol. as members of the proud boys were entering the capitol... enrique tarrio was posting messages on an encrypted site from his hotel room in baltimore. those extremist groups who were... mobilised to be in his hemisphere all shared the goal of seditious conspiracy, of overthrowing the government as we knew it. tarrio pleaded guilty to destruction of property and attempted possession of a large—capacity ammunition—feeding device. he was sentenced to five months in a washington jail. take care. call me. thank you, guys.
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thank you for coming. i appreciate it. all right... as a us house committee, investigating january 6th, began hearings, authorities started to narrow in on the proud boys and other extreme groups. ..a very hateful word... can you talk a little bit about the proud boys? tell us a little bit about... how do you get to be a proud boy? give me more. hey, tarrio! siren tarrio! hey, tarrio! tell �*em! siren continues hey, tarrio! tarrio! all you got to do is exist.
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hey, tarrio! can you hear it? you hear this? siren continues you hear the rage, the anger? tarrio was somebody that the far—left saw as a big problem, and he was somebody that trump supporters idolised. and i think he knew that. tarrio is a paedophile. i'll knock you the bleep out. i'll break your mouth. get the bleep! off me. - do something. get the bleep! off. do something. don't touch him! i said don't bleep! touch him! - get out! don't touch him, i'll kick your mothe do not touch him. they continue shouting so, just to tell you what ijust did here is that their entire stupid message has become about me, and i could not be any happier. overlapping voices none of them remember why they're here, right now. but just weeks later, enrique tarrio was re—arrested, this time for his role in the january 6th attack.
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i ended up in court... ..because i was subpoenaed. as a journalist, it's probably the last place in the world i wanted to be. using footage shot by nick quested as evidence, the prosecution argued that tarrio planned and directed the attack on the capitol using encrypted social media platforms. even though he was kind of away and afar from it, he didn't have to be in dc onjanuary 6th to be charged with seditious conspiracy because he was allegedly organising the conspiracy, regardless of where he was. the defence said that tarrio wasn't in dc and therefore couldn't have been involved in the insurrection in any way. their argument was that the government was prosecuting tarrio because it was easier than going after the real culprit. with tarrio, his own
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telegram messages are... ..the most damning. the message, "make no mistake, we did this1'— he also tells everybody, "proud of my boys." "i'm proud of y'all." he seems happy with what happened. thejudge is going to be taking the bench in five or ten minutes to have that verdict returned by the jury. well, four proud boys leaders have been found guilty by a jury of seditious conspiracy in a major case that the justice department brought afterjanuary 6th. those include enrique tarrio, the leader of the proud boys who was not in washington,
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dc onjanuary 6th. so that makes him very unique among many of the january 6th defendants. but the jury has found that the government proved that these men wanted to overthrow the us government or hinder it somehow by force. we respect the jury's verdict today, although we disagree with it, but we respect it. and at this point in time, we're currently drafting all the appellate paperwork to proceed forth. you know, i'm not sure it matters that much. they got these convictions. they've effectively laid a blueprint for how to disrupt the american government. but the next time somebody wants to do this, somebody with a better plan, smarter, more dedicated, they can just follow the blueprint that's been set out now. i think that with all the january 6th cases, you know, unless... ..former president trump is called to account for this
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event, all of them become almost farcical. you know, everyone knows who caused that event. everyone there was there for him. the rest of these people are pawns, even the...even the important ones. this is a prepaid call from - an inmate at the washington, dc central detention facility. to accept this call, press zero. - beep i mean, you know, we all listened to the trial. a lot of it does have
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to do with, you know, the encouragement of getting people to get out and rally and getting people to come to dc and all those other things that. . .that you were doing. you sounded pretty sorry for...for what had happened. you say you didn't, but yet you're the one in prison for 22 years. america remains deeply divided. as the 2024 election approaches, the threat of political violence is never far away.
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hello. we've got some very different types of weather across different parts of the uk over the next few days. so some bigger contrast. much of the uk well above average in terms of temperature, particularly england, wales and northern ireland. but the blue colours across scotland show areas expected to be colder than average over the next few days and pretty wet across scotland too. this is the expected rainfall accumulation. you can see the green and white colours here indicating some areas could see over 100 millimetres, perhaps even 180 millimetres of rain. that's enough to cause
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some disruption. so the met office have issued an amber heavy rain warning across parts of central and western scotland. we could see some flooding and disruption to power and travel, for instance. so here is the weather front that's going to be bringing all that rain. it's going to be really slow moving on saturday. so it's going to continue to plow more heavy, persistent rainfall into many central parts of scotland, the northern ireland, northern england and down towards wales. a little bit of patchy cloud here and there. best of the sunshine for central and south—eastern parts of england where it is going to feel warm temperatures between about 19 to 2a or 25 degrees on saturday. contrast that to aberdeen, for instance, just nine degrees under the cloud and the persistent rain as well. now that weather front still with us into the second half of the weekend. but as we head through saturday night, it'll just start to lift a little bit further north. the rain perhaps not quite as heavy as we move through into the early hours of sunday morning. so it's going to be a mild night wherever you are. temperatures in double figures towards the south, a little bit colder
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across parts of scotland, but frost free sunday morning starts with that rain. it's going to just push further north through the day across parts of northern and eastern scotland, something a little bit brighter developing in the south for northern ireland, england and wales, any early morning mist and fog clears away to leave spells of sunshine, blue sky and again feeling really warm. 2a degrees possible in the south—east, only about 12 to 1a for scotland moving through into monday. and we've still got high pressure dominating towards the south. so a generally dry day for most of us think for monday, still just the chance of the odd shower in the north, a cool wind across the northern isles and the north of scotland. but for most of us, another warm day. so we're looking at highs in the mid 20s for some towards the south—east, typically the high teens across scotland and northern ireland heading through into tuesday. and there's that big area of high pressure sitting across europe dominating the weather, particularly in the south. but low pressure tries to move in across the north—west of the uk. so some rain possible on tuesday could be the odd heavy shower for parts of northern and western scotland, perhaps northern ireland as well. england and wales having another dry day and it's probably
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going to be the peak of the warmth, 25 or 26 degrees possible for the london area. we're widely looking at temperatures in the high teens, low 20s, again, just a touch cooler across the far north and north—west of scotland. so the middle of the week, it will be all change as this frontal system, as we move into wednesday, tries to push its way further southwards and eastward. so a spell of heavy rain possible on wednesday could be a bit further south, perhaps a bit further north, some squally, gusty winds associated with this feature as it slowly pushes towards the southeast through the day. some showers behind it and temperatures down a touch in the north, but still pretty warm. still looking at the mid 20s possible in the far southeast before that rain sweeps in. and it's going to set us up for a change during the second half of next week. so from wednesday onwards, more showers on the outlook chart for many of us and those temperatures later in the week will return to something more typical really for this time of year. bye bye.
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live from london, this is bbc news. the heat is on. scientists say average world temperatures are passing a key global warming threshold at an alarming rate. united nations investigators are on their way to the ukrainian village where a missile strike killed more than 50 people. and remembering archbishop desmond tutu. a unique digital archive dedicated to him goes live.
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hello, i'm celia hatton. after a summer of extreme heat across europe, east asia and north america, the number of days where temperatures peaked above the 1.5 degree global limit have increased and broken annual record. so far in 2023, around one in three days have had global temperatures above a key marker measuring 1.5 degrees higher than pre—industrial levels. although this isn't classfied as a breach of the goal set in the paris climate treaty, officials say it is a worrying sign of things to come. our environment correspondent, matt mcgrath reports. rising temperatures are having a profound effect on our planet this year. shrinking sea ice in antarctica is posing problems for penguins and as fires took hold once again

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