tv The Context BBC News October 11, 2023 8:30pm-9:01pm BST
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. as israel's intense siege of gaza continues, diplomatic pressure is growing for a humanitarian corridor to get essential supplies into gaza and civilians out, after five days of israeli bombardment and siege. welcome back. here in the uk the chief rabbi has criticised the bbc and other media organisations whose editorial guidelines direct them not to use the term terrorist in their reporting of what unfolded of what happened on saturday day. these...
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in the uk and also in the united states hamas is a prescribed organisation which means governments officially view it as a terrorist organisation that is illegal to support. the defence secretary grant shapps at the policy number four and two terrorists or terrorist action is verging on disgraceful and bbc said it needed to locate its moral compass. so why doesn't the bbc describe the heinous cold letter of murder of women and children as terrorism know how can we describe what will happen on saturday not use the word terrorism. on saturday not use the word terrorism-— on saturday not use the word terrorism. . ., ., ., ., terrorism. there are a lot of other wa s of terrorism. there are a lot of other ways of describing _ terrorism. there are a lot of other ways of describing a _ terrorism. there are a lot of other ways of describing a course - terrorism. there are a lot of other ways of describing a course of- terrorism. there are a lot of other ways of describing a course of the| ways of describing a course of the horror of what happened no one is condoning the kind of murders that
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we solve the kinds of things we were just listening to. no one condones that. but a number of organisations, notjust that. but a number of organisations, not just the that. but a number of organisations, notjust the bbc, other blood coursing organisations, news agencies, newspapers prefer not to talk about terrorism because the word terrorism to simply puts you into a position where you are criticising one side. you are saying they are the bad guys and we support they are the bad guys and we support the good guys. it is just something that organisations like the bbc, but particularly the bbc has always striven to do, to avoid the idea that you are in some way taking sides on something. that is what journalistic impartiality means. i'm really sorry that a lot of people cannot understand that. of course,
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there are different reasons for doing it. forsome there are different reasons for doing it. for some people it isjust another stick to beat the bbc with and that includes politicians among others. but, basically, it isjust that expression of talking about terrorists. we did not do it with the ira when they were carrying out appalling bombings. not to mean to say you hide it or you don't show it fully. one of the ironies of this is that a lot of the people that are complaining most strongly about the bbc not using the word terrorists or terrorism have actually only seen bbc reports and pictures of what is going on. they made their minds up. that is the function of an organisation like the bbc or like other organisations. it is to put the facts in front of people and
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say, there you are, you work out. we should be clear, we are not handing the heinous support and nature of it and have talked in clear terms of what happened in some fairly horrific what happened in some fairly horrifi ,. , ., , what happened in some fairly horrifi ,. , ., ., horrific descriptions attached to them, but _ horrific descriptions attached to them. but no — horrific descriptions attached to them, but no one _ horrific descriptions attached to them, but no one is _ horrific descriptions attached to them, but no one is not - horrific descriptions attached to them, but no one is not using l horrific descriptions attached to l them, but no one is not using the word terrorism. we have used it on this programme many times but always attributed to whoever is using that term whether it be the chief rabbi or the british government or the israelis. historically, as you say, we have done this and come under pressure from other governments. you think of instances where the bbc has been told to use this term and has been under such pressure. constantly and the thatcher _ been under such pressure. constantly and the thatcher years _ been under such pressure. constantly and the thatcher years because - been under such pressure. constantly and the thatcher years because it - and the thatcher years because it was so much of this kind of this thing happening in those years not only with the ira but also with the middle east. in afghanistan i remember i myself had a crossing of
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the swords with margaret thatcher about this. she said i cannot understand why the bbc does not call the freedom fighters in afghanistan, freedom fighters. and i said to her, do you need me to explain this to you? and she said, no, and i understand why, but this is what we have to do. and there is a sense in which politicians use this because they know that a lot of people get quite upset about it and they went to side with the people getting upset against an organisation like the bbc. but, you have to have, if you work for the bbc, you have to have very high standards and rightly, you are held to those standards. i rightly, you are held to those standards-— rightly, you are held to those standards. ., ., ., ~ ., standards. i want to talk to you about the _ standards. i want to talk to you about the wider _ standards. i want to talk to you
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about the wider conflict. - standards. i want to talk to you about the wider conflict. the i standards. i want to talk to you i about the wider conflict. the unity government that has been announced in tel aviv in the war cabinet that benjamin netanyahu has formed, why has he done that? i benjamin netanyahu has formed, why has he done that?— has he done that? i think he wants to net has he done that? i think he wants to get away _ has he done that? i think he wants to get away from _ has he done that? i think he wants to get away from having _ has he done that? i think he wants to get away from having to - has he done that? i think he wants to get away from having to keep i has he done that? i think he wants. to get away from having to keep the far right ministers that have up to now, been supporting his government, to keep them from running the show. this is going to be a very difficult business for israel. assuming that they are going to move into gaza, which everyone seems to expect. very difficult indeed, densely populated, a lot of resistance to them. they hold business of how you deal with refugees and people who are suffering and so forth —— whole. the possibility exists and this is what as i understand it, americans, certainly the british and french
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have been saying, to netanyahu, be very careful, you have world sympathy at the moment. don't lose it. do sympathy at the moment. don't lose it. , ., ~ sympathy at the moment. don't lose it. ~ ., sympathy at the moment. don't lose it. do you think that is finite do ou think it. do you think that is finite do you think that _ it. do you think that is finite do you think that when _ it. do you think that is finite do you think that when antony - it. do you think that is finite do - you think that when antony blinken arrives in tel aviv tomorrow he says, he had a couple of weeks for this because there will be a point here where there is food and water deprived from the palestinians more and more people severely injured and more and more dead in those pictures will start circulating around the world such that... and it will cause other governments problems. there is a arallel in other governments problems. there is a parallel in 1982 _ other governments problems. there is a parallel in 1982 when _ other governments problems. there is a parallel in 1982 when israel- a parallel in 1982 when israel invaded lebanon. northern israel had come under heavy attack from palestinians and lebanese forces, moved in, again, had massive support and sympathy around the world. moved into lebanon and things went very,
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very bad. they were there for about three months. there was intense fighting, a lot of civilians were killed and in the end, they had to leave. and when they left, it looked like a kind of defeat. it looked as though they were leaving with her tail between their legs. and i think thatis tail between their legs. and i think that is the danger for the netanyahu government which is again, why he wants to have more liberal people in his government instead of the kind of people, there was a minister of the other day that said that, we want cruel retribution. well, that is going to upset an awful lot of governments around the world if israel starts to exert that kind of thing. it israel starts to exert that kind of thin. , , ., , thing. it will be interesting to see what comes _ thing. it will be interesting to see what comes of _ thing. it will be interesting to see what comes of the _ thing. it will be interesting to see what comes of the meeting - thing. it will be interesting to see what comes of the meeting from | what comes of the meeting from tomorrow. thank you. three israeli soldiers were killed today on the northern border with lebanbon, by a guided missile that was fired by his brother at an observation point. the israeli troops killed two gunmen who had crossed into israeli territory.
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islamichhad has tells claimed responsibility. and that tells you that there is a serious risk of this escalating beyond gaza. lebanon is in the midst of an economic crisis, and the lebanese government probably no interest in expanding this war. but hezbollah�*s military wing operates independently of decisions in beirut, and often in consultation with iran. that is why the pentagon has deployed the worlds biggest aircraft carrier, the gerald ford to the region, as a warning to those who may be thinking of getting involved. in the past hour, the secretary of state antony blinken left washington for tel aviv, here's what he had to say before they left. we're determined to make sure that israel gets everything it needs to defend itself to provide for the security of its people. already significant military assistance requested by israel is on the way. that's on top of everything that we've been doing for years, including with the memorandum of understanding that was negotiated by president obama to make sure that israel has what it needs to defend itself. at the same time, we anticipate
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there'll be further needs, further requests. we've already been working closely with congress on this, and we look forward to continuing to do that to make sure that israel has what it needs. our correspondent anna foster is in northern israel on the lebanon border where things are extremely tense. well, we're just in one of the border communities we've actually been tracking along the border all day. at the moment, we're keeping our specific location a little bit vague. and this is becausejust over the last couple of hours, as we were driving through the community that we're in at the moment, the siren sounded and we took shelter. we actually happened to be with one of the local security teams because a lot of these communities, they are bringing extra troops in. i should say the israel defense forces are really bolstering this northern border. but most of these communities already have a group of local men who will, and it normally is men, who will come together. they are armed.
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they will group at a certain location if there are suggestions of any potential issues at the border. now, what they were hearing, what israeli local tv was reporting, was a suspected infiltration from lebanon across this border here. now, to put that into context, this morning, his brotherfired now, to put that into context, this morning, hezbollah fired an anti—tank missile from lebanon into israel, the lebanese militant group hezbollah. of course, israel then used their fighterjets to target some infrastructure on the lebanese side yesterday, again, a village that i was at earlier, similarly, there was an infiltration of his brother militants. they came across the border. and in fact, three israeli soldiers, one of them very senior, a deputy battalion commander, were killed as they tried to contain these men who came across the border
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and started shooting. so all of that taken togetherjust shows you how jumpy everybody is here. now, the idf say that they have ruled out an infiltration, but the problem with this northern border is that if things escalate here, it causes a real problem, notjust in the region, but, of course, across the wider world. and that is why there is a lot of international anxiety about what happens on this israel—lebanon border right now. thank you to anna for that. if you're watching a few minutes ago you're watching a few minutes ago you will of heard us speaking to the mother of one of the hostages who has been taken rachel, kherson is one of those missing and she said that she had not had much contact or any contact with the israeli government yet. none of that process is happening. here in the uk a statement in the last few minutes from the met counterterrorism command who are appealing for anyone in the uk with direct evidence to get in touch with them. they also have family liaison officers supporting the affected families of uk nationals affected. in addition, we started gathering information, they say, that may assist in any subsequent process, this appeal is directed at anyone who may have returned from israel in the past few days and has footage or images of
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more than a thousand people are now known to have died quarter of a million have fled their homes. the bbc has its own correspondent in gaza city, our colleague, rushdi abu alouf who has lived through four of these conflicts. he splits his time between reporting for us and protecting his family, his wife and children. which is why he is not live for us tonight, but he did send this update. we can watch israeli artillery fire, uh, hitting the coastal the coastal side of gaza. east israeli tanks are locating near the border with israel, and they shell the western part of the city. the health official saying that they are struggling to cope with the situation. they are struggling to cope with the number of people. they said we are running out of medicine. we are running out of fuel
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to operate the generators that is providing power for the hospitals. the local authority here is trying also to manage what is available. we understand that banks are not giving enough cash, only like 100 bucks forfourfor each user. the fuel in the fuel station is giving the people very small amount of of gas. even the bakeries are not giving the people what they need. they only give very small amount of bread for the people. so they are trying to manage what is available. but very soon, if gaza is not supplied by what is needed is going to be a catastrophic situation here. to remind you there is no way out of the gaza strip the crossing to israel is obviously close but so is the southern crossing into egypt. a vast number of those trying to escape the bombardment are currently in
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hospitals or un's shelters but there is no room to see for anyone. but there is nowhere safe for anyone. today the un secretary—general, antonio guterres, expressed his deep regret after 11 un staff were killed by one of the israeli bombs. speaking in new york, mr guterres said a corridor forfood and medicine must be opened immediately. crucial life—saving supplies, including fuel, food and water, must be allowed into gaza. we need rapid and unimpeded humanitarian access now. dr rick brennan is the world health organisation's regional emergency director for the eastern mediterranean and hejoins us now. good evening and thank you for being with us i see there is a tentative plan to allow american citizens in gaza out and also up to 2000 palestinians a day. what about getting health supplies, hospital supplies and food and the other direction? figs supplies and food and the other direction? �* , supplies and food and the other direction? a ,, . ., , , ., direction? as the secretary-general has made it —
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direction? as the secretary-general has made it clear _ direction? as the secretary-general has made it clear it _ direction? as the secretary-general has made it clear it is _ direction? as the secretary-general has made it clear it is absolutely - has made it clear it is absolutely vital beget humanitarian assistance across the border into gaza and that that be done soon. earlier this week our director general of the world health organization met with president of egypt. the president gave his support and endorsement of, to give us access across the crossing to transport medical supplies and other humanitarian assistance we are working to make that a reality but there are a few hurdles to jump through at this stage. but we hope we can get some medical supplies now that and other assistance moving as soon as possible. assistance moving as soon as ossible. , ., , , possible. obviously the power station is out. _ possible. obviously the power station is out. the _ possible. obviously the power station is out. the generators| possible. obviously the power . station is out. the generators are running low on fuel. what does that mean to a hospital if it runs out of
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power? mean to a hospital if it runs out of ower? ~ , ., power? well, it is a drastic situation- _ power? well, it is a drastic situation. you _ power? well, it is a drastic situation. you have - power? well, it is a drastic situation. you have to - power? well, it is a drastic - situation. you have to remember power? well, it is a drastic _ situation. you have to remember that the health system and gossip was already a poorly functioning health system, a poorly staffed and now with the over 40,000 injured individuals across gaza, and an enormous additional workload for doctors and hospitals and clinics. they need fuel to operate properly. they need fuel to operate properly. they need fuel to operate properly. they need water, they need electricity. and within are ready to begin an enormous burden of patients and notjust trauma patients, there are women who will be having babies every day. they need some more clean and safe to deliver. there are people with other medical conditions such as diabetes and heart disease. they need regular care as well. so a
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lack of power in a hospital or a clinic can be life—threatening for patients. it is a drastic situation. i spent a lot of time in gaza during the war in 2008 and on the egyptian rafah side where they were being evacuated and i know the nearest hospital is vitally important to the hospital is vitally important to the hospital are you forward positioning supplies at the airport in readiness for some sort of breakthrough? we for some sort of breakthrough? - already had supplies pre—positioned in gaza. we had supplies for the management of 500 injured patients unfortunately, though supplies have already been used up. we have more supplies in the west bank but they are not readily transferable to gaza at this stage. do half an air shipment in our big logistics hub in dubai that is ready to go and we hope to be transporting within the
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next 24—46 hours. that will have to be transported over land up in the northern part of egypt up to the marker when crossing. we are working with the egyptian authorities on the logistics. —— rafah. they are insisting that we worked through the red crescent to transport the supplies so we are also in negotiations with the egyptian red crescent. we have works in motion, but we are still up few days wait to be able to transport medicines and other urgent supplies across the border, fortunately.— other urgent supplies across the border, fortunately. really grateful for our border, fortunately. really grateful for your time _ border, fortunately. really grateful for your time this _ border, fortunately. really grateful for your time this evening - border, fortunately. really grateful for your time this evening and - border, fortunately. really grateful for your time this evening and we l for your time this evening and we wish the best of luck for your efforts in that. thank you for coming the programme. let's speak to aryeh lightstone, who served as senior adviser to the us ambassador to israel from 2017 to 2021. thank you for being with us this evening. it's good to have you on the programme. we should just look
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at the conversations that will be tomorrow in tel aviv, blinken and his hostage negotiator on route to israel. i don't think i have seen a us president so fulsome and his support for the israeli government in recent times asjoe biden was last night, but do you think when he talked about them respecting the rules of international warfare, do you think there is a limit here for the americans or rrs are all bets are off is there no retreat at all for the israelis? i are off is there no retreat at all for the israelis?— are off is there no retreat at all for the israelis? i think we have to look at the — for the israelis? i think we have to look at the worst _ for the israelis? i think we have to look at the worst images - for the israelis? i think we have to look at the worst images that - for the israelis? i think we have to | look at the worst images that have happened through thejewish people of israel since the holocaust. many of israel since the holocaust. many of us can remember people in the west did not do enough during the holocaust and there was a phrase called never again. well never again happen. this october seven where there was a real life crime where there was a real life crime where there was a real life crime where there was over 1000 people murder and grandmothers kidnapped, toddlers kidnapped, women of rates, babies decapitated. so let's talk about not
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business as usual. this is the most horrific scene i have seen in my life and have seen quite a bit. the us, which i represent and currently in the trump administration, there are 22 americans believed to have been murdered and others that are currently missing. this is a travesty of epic proportions. the united states of america should do everything in its possibility to get those american senses and stand by our ally israel and the fight against the greatest evil i have seenin against the greatest evil i have seen in my lifetime since 9/11. i think for many of our viewers would agree with the interpretation of what happened. in respect. pardon me if, it's not what happened. in respect. pardon me if. it's not an — what happened. in respect. pardon me if, it's not an interpretation. _ if, it's not an interpretation. there were babies decapitated, there were great mothers kidnapped and there were women raped. not an interpretation in actual fact will stop interpretation was probably the wrong word thank you for correcting me. .,
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wrong word thank you for correcting me, ., . ., . ., wrong word thank you for correcting me, ., ., , me. you can call it heinous in the resonse me. you can call it heinous in the response obviously _ me. you can call it heinous in the response obviously to _ me. you can call it heinous in the response obviously to get - me. you can call it heinous in the response obviously to get rid - me. you can call it heinous in the response obviously to get rid and j response obviously to get rid and decapitate of hamas but how concerned will americans be as they do that, they go through that process, that the lives of the hostages are at risk. i'm just wondering if the americans will be urging caution to protect the 17 hostages or whether that becomes a wedge between the two governments. no because i think israel cares an enormous amount about the other 130-150 or enormous amount about the other 130—150 or other human lives there. israel cares enormous amount about palestinians that are held hostage under hamas. there is no easy answer. there is reason why gaza is in this hellhole since it has come under hamas leadership that is not a simple answer if there were people would have taken a pulse of the us — israel need to be in lockstep to give up and over to that, you have to call out an eagle property was most of these are terrorist. perpetrated the most heinous crimes we can imagine and will use the words hamas and his brother bagbonon. let's call it rafah
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because they were —— i wrong because they were the directors and corridors. they were the directors and corridors-— corridors. why didn't the administration _ corridors. why didn't the administration is - corridors. why didn't the administration is being l corridors. why didn't the - administration is being cautious about attributing blame for this in to ron's direction. it is about attributing blame for this in to ron's direction.— to ron's direction. it is clear why they don't _ to ron's direction. it is clear why they don't treat _ to ron's direction. it is clear why they don't treat iran _ to ron's direction. it is clear why they don't treat iran why - to ron's direction. it is clear why they don't treat iran why they . they don't treat iran why they should be treated. they are responsible for the murders of countless americans prior to this second and certainly not responsible for 22 dead americans and countless others of our allies here. why in the world would be be careful and gentle with us does not make sense to me but i am not in at the moment and i will give them benefit of the doubt that there is a reason although it is mind—boggling. doubt that there is a reason although it is mind-boggling. really . rateful for although it is mind-boggling. really grateful for you _ although it is mind-boggling. really grateful for you coming _ although it is mind-boggling. really grateful for you coming on - although it is mind—boggling. really grateful for you coming on the gratefulfor you coming on the programme and thank you very much indeed. ., ~ , ., ., programme and thank you very much indeed. . ~' , ., ., . programme and thank you very much j indeed-— we indeed. thank you for having me. we will no to indeed. thank you for having me. we will go to a — indeed. thank you for having me. we will go to a short _ indeed. thank you for having me. we will go to a short break but _ indeed. thank you for having me. we will go to a short break but of - will go to a short break but of course will continue to focus on events and because of this evening and israel. plenty more reaction. he will speak to a general about the supplies that are now starting to arrive in tel aviv and our panel
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will be here as well. join us for that. we will be right back. hello. for some of us over the last few days, it has felt as if summer has been trying to cling on deep into october. but autumn is going to be arriving over the next few days. in fact, already feeling quite autumnal in the northern half of the uk. and the dividing line between those air masses is this weather front. bringing some outbreaks of rain across parts of wales. the midlands, into east anglia and lincolnshire particularly heavy rain across parts of western risk the risk of some flooding and some disruption. to the south of that often murky, but warm and humid. further north cooler and fresher. 12 degrees for example in aberdeen and glasgow. some chantra, a scattering of showers, the wind
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slowly easing a little bit in the north of scotland. overnight are put in front moves a little bit further southwards and tends to stall across southern counties of england, wales and the midlands. very mild here. 16 degrees in plymouth come overnight. compare that with two or three degrees for many spots further north. here we will see some sunshine to take us into tomorrow morning. a scattering of showers particularly in the north west of scotland. this band of cloud never really clearing the south of england or south wales some worth trying to instead of peering through that weather actually tries to push for skin during thursday night into friday but for parts lived in wales and the same time at the school from purchases away into scotland and northern ireland so complex look to the weather turned on friday but we will see some outbreaks free and particularly across england and
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wales. across scotland and northern ireland was he sunny spells and some and some showers, some showers could start to turn wintry over the highest ground and some colder air starts to dig its way in. the story. we lose all of these weather fronts. all of us get into this cold north—westerly rent. if anything to purchase by day will be attached below the average for the time of year. at night, we have the widespread frost.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. translation: i've lost my father, j my bother, my uncle, two cousins, two otherfamily members and my pregnant wife. i am the only survivor. for days if there is no fuel entering to gaza. i think the hospital will collapse, there will be a disaster in the hospital. food and water must| be allowed into gaza. we need rapid and unimpeded humanitarian access now. - the united states has israel's back. we have the back today, we will have it tomorrow, we will have it every day. the death toll in the middle east is mounting, the israeli government
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