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another kibbutz, not someone i from another kibbutz, not someone i know_ from another kibbutz, not someone i know but_ from another kibbutz, not someone i know but she was, she was the friend of my— know but she was, she was the friend of my mother. i know her daughter and we _ of my mother. i know her daughter and we grew up together and we all know_ and we grew up together and we all know each— and we grew up together and we all know each other and i was there a month_ know each other and i was there a month ago— know each other and i was there a month ago with noam sitting around having _ month ago with noam sitting around having a _ month ago with noam sitting around having a drink. there are people that are — having a drink. there are people that are there counting the bodies and people there supporting the survivors— and people there supporting the survivors stop together have experienced something so horrific we cannot— experienced something so horrific we cannot contemplate, but we have a 'ob cannot contemplate, but we have a job to _ cannot contemplate, but we have a job to do _ cannot contemplate, but we have a job to do no, and i and all of us are concentrating on the job at hand and the _ are concentrating on the job at hand and the job— are concentrating on the job at hand and the job it is in the face of all of this— and the job it is in the face of all of this bring these people back home there are _ of this bring these people back home there are mothers waiting for their
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children. _ there are mothers waiting for their children, these are the children of my friends, — children, these are the children of my friends, these mothers and me. i am asking _ my friends, these mothers and me. i am asking on — my friends, these mothers and me. i am asking on their behalf, not on my half, am asking on their behalf, not on my hatf. it— am asking on their behalf, not on my hatf. it was— am asking on their behalf, not on my half, it was not against my father in particular are my friends daughter. they are all our children and our— daughter. they are all our children and our parents. i will echo her. ifeel i will echo her. i feel i am i will echo her. ifeel i am in a luxury position to be able to sit here and worry and to have any emotions about my 75—year—old mother sitting somewhere in gaza. her parents fled europe to protect their lives. and she finds herself no on
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the other side of the globe, not even one generation. so the other side of the globe, not even one generation. 50 it is heartbreaking but we are very, very resolved and very clear what we are focusing on. they need to be back home now, and i see they, talking about civilians, especially every every elderly person over 65 should never ever in this world by any means except that this is part of any negotiation or bargaining chip for what? any negotiation or bargaining chip forwhat? so any negotiation or bargaining chip for what? so i am any negotiation or bargaining chip forwhat? so i am in any negotiation or bargaining chip for what? so i am in a luxury position. for what? so i am in a luxury position-— for what? so i am in a luxury osition. ., . . . , for what? so i am in a luxury osition. ., . ,, ,, position. you are watching up press conference — position. you are watching up press conference. these _ position. you are watching up press conference. these are _ position. you are watching up press conference. these are two - position. you are watching up press| conference. these are two members position. you are watching up press . conference. these are two members of the jewish conference. these are two members of thejewish community in london
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holding a press conference in london and both theirfamilies have been caught up in the hostage situation currently ongoing in gaza and noam sagi was talking about her 75—year—old mother ada who was supposed to be here for her birthday but she was kidnapped. i supposed to be here for her birthday but she was kidnapped.— but she was kidnapped. i hope to be here for his — but she was kidnapped. i hope to be here for his next _ but she was kidnapped. i hope to be here for his next birthday _ but she was kidnapped. i hope to be here for his next birthday with - but she was kidnapped. i hope to be here for his next birthday with him. | here for his next birthday with him. you might look at the picture, call them family. they are people who wiped my bum when i was a baby and at the top me to swim and i know each one of them we grew up together. —— taught me to swim. from the age of six weeks to 15 we grew up the age of six weeks to 15 we grew up together and we saw each other
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more than we saw our parents. this is how we grew up. you talk about over 80 peoplejust is how we grew up. you talk about over 80 people just in that community that have been taken hostage. so what kept me going? i will do everything i can for them. i will do everything i can for them. i am here because i have to face my friends _ am here because i have to face my friends and — am here because i have to face my friends and tell them i am doing my bit, friends and tell them i am doing my bit. we _ friends and tell them i am doing my bit. we got — friends and tell them i am doing my bit, we got together, i can't see that bit, we got together, ican't see that any— bit, we got together, i can't see that any army came for eight hours, no army— that any army came for eight hours, no army came to see these people. they were _ no army came to see these people. they were just fending for themselves, children and fathers and mothers _ themselves, children and fathers and mothers and elderly. i think there will be _ mothers and elderly. i think there will be time to bury the dead and
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time _ will be time to bury the dead and time to— will be time to bury the dead and time to decide what to do with that place _ time to decide what to do with that place because i spoke to my brother yesterday _ place because i spoke to my brother yesterday and he felt he did not see a way— yesterday and he felt he did not see a way for— yesterday and he felt he did not see a way for us — yesterday and he felt he did not see a way for us to go back there. they have _ a way for us to go back there. they have eradicated the place. this is a place _ have eradicated the place. this is a place that— have eradicated the place. this is a place that so much collective love has been — place that so much collective love has been poured into, it was so beautifut— has been poured into, it was so beautiful emotionally for people, for my— beautiful emotionally for people, for my family, the week before my whole _ for my family, the week before my whole family were there. we now have to fight _ whole family were there. we now have to fight for— whole family were there. we now have to fight for those we can still save, — to fight for those we can still save, the _ to fight for those we can still save, the place is gone and the dead are dead _ save, the place is gone and the dead are dead and somewhere in gaza that chitdren— are dead and somewhere in gaza that children and — are dead and somewhere in gaza that children and mothers and this is our fi-ht children and mothers and this is our fight now _ children and mothers and this is our fight now. to go back and sit with our community, they are sitting there _ our community, they are sitting there listening to these horrific
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stories— there listening to these horrific stories and brave stories and my tirother— stories and brave stories and my brother brought his three children together— brother brought his three children together with those survivors who have gone — together with those survivors who have gone through the most horrific thing _ have gone through the most horrific thing but— have gone through the most horrific thing. but i'm here to talk to you and ask— thing. but i'm here to talk to you and ask each person who believes there _ and ask each person who believes there is— and ask each person who believes there is goodness in the world, that betieves— there is goodness in the world, that believes that butchery is not something we accept, i don't accept it from _ something we accept, i don't accept it from isis — something we accept, i don't accept it from isis or from our neighbours. the distinction between hamas and the palestinian people must now be absolutely clear. i cannot believe what _ absolutely clear. i cannot believe what it _ absolutely clear. i cannot believe what it is — absolutely clear. i cannot believe what it is like to be a palestinian at this— what it is like to be a palestinian at this point over the last ten years— at this point over the last ten years under that regime. they don't 'ust years under that regime. they don't just come _ years under that regime. they don't just come and wash over that tsunami of heat _
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just come and wash over that tsunami of heat and _ just come and wash over that tsunami of heat and go back home and be kind _ of heat and go back home and be kind we — of heat and go back home and be kind. we are the people of this region — kind. we are the people of this region. we need people to get this sorted _ region. we need people to get this sorted stop we need these people to come _ sorted stop we need these people to come track— sorted stop we need these people to come back home. what sorted stop we need these people to come back home.— sorted stop we need these people to come back home. what have you heard, ou come back home. what have you heard, you mentioned — come back home. what have you heard, you mentioned you _ come back home. what have you heard, you mentioned you have _ come back home. what have you heard, you mentioned you have been _ come back home. what have you heard, you mentioned you have been a - come back home. what have you heard, you mentioned you have been a touch i you mentioned you have been a touch of the _ you mentioned you have been a touch of the british— you mentioned you have been a touch of the british government. _ you mentioned you have been a touch of the british government. as - you mentioned you have been a touch of the british government. as the - of the british government. as the british— of the british government. as the british government _ of the british government. as the british government or— of the british government. as the british government or the - of the british government. as the british government or the israeli i british government or the israeli government— british government or the israeli government offered _ british government or the israeli government offered any- british government or the israeli - government offered any assistance? do the _ government offered any assistance? do the authorities _ government offered any assistance? do the authorities of— government offered any assistance? do the authorities of any— do the authorities of any information— do the authorities of any information about - do the authorities of any information about what i do the authorities of anyl information about what is do the authorities of any- information about what is going do the authorities of any— information about what is going on? correct _ information about what is going on? correct me — information about what is going on? correct me if— information about what is going on? correct me if i'm _ information about what is going on? correct me if i'm wrong, _ information about what is going on? correct me if i'm wrong, we - information about what is going on? correct me if i'm wrong, we didn't. correct me if i'm wrong, we didn't have any information from anyone in any formal way. last time, the only
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thing i can say is that by 20 past nine uk time is the last munication with my mother, she went into her safe room inside her house, living on her own, dealing with the grief of losing my fatherjust on her own, dealing with the grief of losing my father just a year on her own, dealing with the grief of losing my fatherjust a year ago, snatched by men in their 20s and 30s and 405 to snatched by men in their 205 and 305 and 405 to children and elderly people captive. we have no information and since then we are together working in the dark trying together working in the dark trying to get as much information as you are. i wanted to ask you both, what you want the british government to do
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with the international community and you think that is why the israeli government is saying that is no water or electricity in gaza and told the hostages are released? you have been in — told the hostages are released? gm. have been in my house and i showed you the pictures. you want for the bbc. i asked the bbc to call it for what it is. to use human coat and call it for what it is. hamas as an organisation that came to be one thing and one thing only, and we have that responsibility. what will happen in gaza everybody new and have a year to plan this so if you want to protect people you have one year. i don't know how to answer that because i'm not a politician.
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my that because i'm not a politician. my ways of dealing with things are very different than what i see happening on the ground. i believe in humanity. use on the video are you, people, and to the kibbutz and take a kids bike and if they do that they believe in the future. one plus one equals two, what will happen in three days? everybody knows. what is the expectation? whoever planned this operation had to plan what will happen next and we have lived here for many years but grew up in the region and we know how it works. it is just sad region and we know how it works. it isjust sad and region and we know how it works. it is just sad and heartbreaking escalation of violence that will just include more generations. that,
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what is a way out? so nuance right now feels terrible. at what is a way out? so nuance right now feels terrible.— what is a way out? so nuance right now feels terrible. at the moment my mum and dad — now feels terrible. at the moment my mum and dad are _ now feels terrible. at the moment my mum and dad are also _ now feels terrible. at the moment my mum and dad are also there. - now feels terrible. at the moment my mum and dad are also there. i - now feels terrible. at the moment my mum and dad are also there. i am - now feels terrible. at the moment myj mum and dad are also there. i am not really— mum and dad are also there. i am not really going _ mum and dad are also there. i am not really going to tell you what i think— really going to tell you what i think is— really going to tell you what i think is right and wrong. i think they— think is right and wrong. i think they have — think is right and wrong. i think they have shown that they have no mercy _ they have shown that they have no mercy and — they have shown that they have no mercy and we have to protect our people _ mercy and we have to protect our people i— mercy and we have to protect our people. i don't know, i am not a people. idon't know, i am not a military— people. i don't know, i am not a military person, i'm not a politician. but beyond that, we need to find _ politician. but beyond that, we need to find a _ politician. but beyond that, we need to find a way for the future, we can do anything until these elderly— we can do anything until these elderly people and children are back _
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elderly people and children are back. this is the defining moment of our life _ back. this is the defining moment of our life. what we worked for and our presence _ our life. what we worked for and our presence worked for under children, there _ presence worked for under children, there is— presence worked for under children, there is nothing left. all the lifework— there is nothing left. all the lifework of my parents is done. we will deal— lifework of my parents is done. we will deal with that later. at the moment— will deal with that later. at the moment my friends daughter is autistic— moment my friends daughter is autistic and not very well to be in the very— autistic and not very well to be in the very acute situation. she can hardly— the very acute situation. she can hardly handle daily life. i want her out. hardly handle daily life. i want her out the _ hardly handle daily life. i want her out. the rest is the rest following and once — out. the rest is the rest following and once we have sold this we can start— and once we have sold this we can start looking at this horrendous atrocity — start looking at this horrendous atrocity. there were changes after 1973 and _ atrocity. there were changes after 1973 and after 2011 stop it is a moment— 1973 and after 2011 stop it is a moment of change and now we have really _ moment of change and now we have really to _ moment of change and now we have really to comprehend what took place _ really to comprehend what took place. we are no still in the event,
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not after— place. we are no still in the event, not after the — place. we are no still in the event, not after the event and in this event — not after the event and in this event these children and elderly must _ event these children and elderly must come back home. i wanted to ask you how much longer will europeans — i wanted to ask you how much longer will europeans be _ i wanted to ask you how much longer will europeans be able _ i wanted to ask you how much longer will europeans be able to _ i wanted to ask you how much longer will europeans be able to be - i wanted to ask you how much longer will europeans be able to be withoutl will europeans be able to be without medication? — will europeans be able to be without medication? t— will europeans be able to be without medication? [do _ will europeans be able to be without medication? ., ., will europeans be able to be without medication?— will europeans be able to be without medication? ., ., ,, ., . , medication? i do not know what they have. i medication? i do not know what they have- i keep — medication? i do not know what they have. i keep telling _ medication? i do not know what they have. i keep telling my _ medication? i do not know what they have. i keep telling my son - medication? i do not know what they have. i keep telling my son they - medication? i do not know what they have. i keep telling my son they are | have. i keep telling my son they are a very— have. i keep telling my son they are a very valuable asset and therefore people _ a very valuable asset and therefore people are — a very valuable asset and therefore people are looking after them. i have _ people are looking after them. i have no— people are looking after them. i have no clue. i have to somehow find a way _ have no clue. i have to somehow find a way through this reality. my mum and dad _ a way through this reality. my mum and dad i_ a way through this reality. my mum and dad i would say are incredibly strong _ and dad i would say are incredibly strong people in their heart and in their—
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strong people in their heart and in their world — strong people in their heart and in their world. the body, my father was afraid _ their world. the body, my father was afraid no— their world. the body, my father was afraid no for— their world. the body, my father was afraid no for him to claim on a chair— afraid no for him to claim on a chair let— afraid no for him to claim on a chair let alone anything else. my mum _ chair let alone anything else. my mum is— chair let alone anything else. my mum is back is unwell. i don't know if it is— mum is back is unwell. i don't know if it is damp— mum is back is unwell. i don't know if it is damp or dust, i don't spend my time _ if it is damp or dust, i don't spend my time thinking about it because i would _ my time thinking about it because i would explode. it my time thinking about it because i would explode.— would explode. it hurts, i think we need to understand _ would explode. it hurts, i think we need to understand that _ would explode. it hurts, i think we need to understand that the - would explode. it hurts, i think we need to understand that the were l need to understand that the were just transferred from a care home into gaza, people with dementia and parkinson's, people who are not mobile and it is the longest trip to fight for a long time. —— they have had for a long time. the reason we feel urgency as nature will do its course if we do not act quickly, and
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the humanity and the human will say stop, this is outside the lines of what is ok and not ok. they won't be here for too long. my mum has severe allergies to every kind of dust and i know her epipen and inhalers are at home. i can send how many want to the border, i do not know if it will reach. every one is a case in themselves. i keep getting desperate pleas from people and israel, mothers with kids, saying can you get someone from the red cross to get someone from the red cross to get that medication for that child? my get that medication for that child? my heart goes out and i don't know what we can do from here. but i know there are so many good people.
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with lighter winds, it is still going to feel cool.

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