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the un says it's in to enter egypt. the un says it's in advanced talks to get the first aid into gaza since israel began bombing the territory. the prime minister calls for essential supplies. we must ensure — calls for essential supplies. - must ensure that humanitarian support reaches people in gaza. this requires israel and egypt to allow in the eight it most desperately needs. .,, . , in the eight it most desperately needs. . , . in the eight it most desperately needs. ., , ., , , needs. hostages are still being held in gaza, needs. hostages are still being held in gaza. prime _ needs. hostages are still being held in gaza, prime minister— needs. hostages are still being held in gaza, prime minister netanyahu i in gaza, prime minister netanyahu promises to bring them home. secretary of state antony blinken holds more talks and reiterates america's support.— america's support. support to israel's right _ america's support. support to israel's right and _ america's support. support to israel's right and indeed - america's support. support to israel's right and indeed its i israel's right and indeed its obligation to defend itself, to defend its people.
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hello, i'm sarah campbell, welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. we start with the war in the middle east, the border has been closed all day but despite hopes from washington that it would be open for a few hours. let's look for a moment at the geography of gaza. the opening of the rafah crossing would also allow some foreigners — including us citizens — to leave. at the same time, hamas and israel have denied reports that they've these are the latest pictures from the rafah crossing, showing the crowds there. we understand that un fuel trucks did make it across the border this morning. america's top diplomat, antony blinken, is back in israel, from egypt, where he was trying to persuade officials to reopen the border point. egypt's foreign minister is reported
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as saying israel had not yet taken a stance that would allow the crossing to open. over the weekend, mr blinken held talks in six arab states, with a view to alleviating gaza's humanitarian crisis and to prevent the war from escalating. our correspondent nick beake has the latest. in gaza, families who have been forced from their homes are heading south to the border with egypt. but this, the rafah crossing, has remained closed to them, trapping palestinians as well as foreign nationals. they say they've lost everything in israel's response to hamas�*s killing of civilians just over a week ago. this gaza strip and palestine, this is like, they think there's no people here. there's people here! there's people here live! it's not right! some say they've done exactly as israel ordered and left the north of gaza only to be bombed
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in the south. translation: no electricity, | no water, no nappies, no milk, corpses in the street. we fled to the un school, we thought it was safe, but they targeted it and people died. across the border, a convoy of aid trucks has built up but there is still no deal with egypt to allow them in. israel cut off supplies of food, medicine and other essentials to more than 2 million people in gaza after the hamas attacks. translation: there have been reports of humanitarian aid - being allowed into gaza in return for letting foreigners leave. at this stage, i'd like to state the crossings are closed and there's no such decision. there is no ceasefire and we are continuing our operational activity. israel says it is preparing for a major operation by air, land and sea. its most powerful ally is warning against an occupation of gaza. i think it would be a big mistake.
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look, what happened in gaza, in my view, is hamas and the extreme elements of hamas don't represent all the palestinian people. fighterjets are leading israel's military campaign. the bombs obliterating whole buildings in densely packed gaza neighbourhoods and continue to kill civilians. israel says it's targeting hamas fighters and weapons. in tel aviv, one of many memorials to the 1,300 israelis killed in hamas attacks. the government here says the scale of the atrocities justifies its response. most israelis seem to support what their military is doing in gaza, that hamas crossed a line. and hamas continues to fire rockets into israeli towns and cities, and that only hardens public opinion. people are also worried and angry that 199 hostages
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are still being held in gaza. there is no sign of the imminent release of those hostages, nor any breakthrough that would allow those in gaza to escape from this misery. nick beake, bbc news, tel aviv. it's clear that israel and the united states are almost in lock step now, at least in this moment. the united states is doing everything it can, both to show israel stand by it, stand by its right to defend itself, but also to send a very clear message as it staunchest of allies, that israel still has to do everything it can to try and minimise civilian harm. antony blinken came to israel some days ago, he did his tour of the
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region, speaking to every arab leader who could have some sway over one side or the other, one part or the other in this conflagration. he's come back to israel and we just heard that instead of going back to the united states as planned, he is going to go back to thejordanian capital, amman. when it he changes his travel schedule, it is a sign that he is working on something, we know they are focusing on two fronts. number one, the only way into or out of gaza on its southern border to get the foreign nationals out, about 1000 of them. to get the 3pp out, about 1000 of them. to get the app desperately needed aid, full, fuel, medicine. the lorries are piling up at the sinai peninsula. they want to do everything possible to to ensure this crisis does not spread, as best as it is in israel
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and gaza, if it spreads even further, if it spills across the border, then it is an even more dangerous territory. tell border, then it is an even more dangerous territory.— border, then it is an even more dangerous territory. tell us, you're in ashkelon. _ dangerous territory. tell us, you're in ashkelon, the _ dangerous territory. tell us, you're in ashkelon, the military _ dangerous territory. tell us, you're in ashkelon, the military build-upl in ashkelon, the military build—up presumably there continues. two, the ground offensive. have you got any sense, just tell us what you're saying, what you're hearing where you are. saying, what you're hearing where ou are. ~ �* , saying, what you're hearing where ou are. ~ 3 . saying, what you're hearing where ouare.~ h ., saying, what you're hearing where ou are. ~ 2 ., ., saying, what you're hearing where ouare., h . ., , you are. well it's a day ten of this war, ten you are. well it's a day ten of this war. ten days _ you are. well it's a day ten of this war, ten days since _ you are. well it's a day ten of this war, ten days since the _ you are. well it's a day ten of this| war, ten days since the massacres committed by hamas in southern israel. we've seen with every day is really forces racing down to the border, the artillery, the armour, they are now in a zone of closed military zone which we are not allowed to enter, but throughout today we moved around southern israel including to sea route which is less than a mile from the border. there is a constant sound of it is really artillery firing into gaza, every place we went the israeli
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military moved us away. that it was too dangerous, we could be in the line of fire, the last position they said there could be an errant missile followed by the tanks which are firing into gaza. you get a sense of the military operations are gathering pace, and of course the nonstop bombardment of gaza. it seems as though israel wants to, well there was hope there could be a cease—fire in southern gaza, that hasn't been released. but that is the focus now so that there can be more humanitarian and a rescue of some of the people in gaza. i have to say, it's been relatively quiet. two days ago the air raid sirens went off almost every hour here in ashkelon. it has been relatively quiet today although there have been missiles fired in other parts of southern israel, and in border towns like this, an official evacuation is taking place to lead even more people to safety away from that
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border. �* ., people to safety away from that border. �* . ., , ., . border. and that was our chief international _ border. and that was our chief international correspondent i border. and that was our chief i international correspondent lisa doucet. let's now focus on what's happening inside gaza itself — our correspondentjon donnison reports. amid the destruction in southern gaza, the homeless and the hungry in their hundreds of thousands are trying to survive. and the united nations is now warning of an unprecedented humanitarian catastrophe. "we have nothing that we need to live," says this man, who fled south. "we're living in a dump and if we move, we'll die." amid the detritus and not enough toilets, there are fears about the spread of disease. there's food, but not enough.
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all this will feed less than 2,000 people, says amir, just a fraction of those in need. there are long queues to get bread, but it's being rationed. "we've been waiting here since six in the morning," he tells us, "just to get food to feed the kids." "we will run out of flour," the baker says, "in two days maximum." clean water is also in short supply. fuel supplies needed to operate filters are dwindling. "this is all the clean water i can get," he says. "we left our homes in the north because we thought there would be "aid, but where is it?" he goes on. "give us electricity, give us water." and all the while, the hospitals in the south, like in the rest of gaza, are overwhelmed with casualties
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from the old to the very young. seven days, ten days, four days? those are the victims. those are the injured here in the hospital. this little baby was born amid the chaos less than a week ago. as you can see here — look. what kind of life lies ahead of her? this face, this children, does nothing. jon donnison, bbc news. he helped provide humanitarian aid to civilians in gaza where water, food, and medical supplies are running low. he spoke at a joint news conference with the israeli defence minister. you
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news conference with the israeli defence minister.— news conference with the israeli defence minister. ., ~' ., ., , defence minister. you know our deep commitment — defence minister. you know our deep commitment to _ defence minister. you know our deep commitment to israel's _ defence minister. you know our deep commitment to israel's right, - defence minister. you know our deep commitment to israel's right, indeed | commitment to israel's right, indeed its obligation, to defend itself. and to defend its people. and in that you have and have always had the support of the united states. thank you. thank you very much sir. joining us now on the line is sami abu salem. he is a palestinian journalist in gaza. he has made his way south from gaza city to the al—maghazi refugee camp. hello to you, thank you so much for joining us. can you just tell me first of all, where you are and what conditions are like where you are? im...we im... we seem to i m... we seem to be having some
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auali i m... we seem to be having some quality with — i m... we seem to be having some quality with the — i m... we seem to be having some quality with the sound _ i m... we seem to be having some quality with the sound right - i m... we seem to be having some quality with the sound right now, l quality with the sound right now, can you hear me? we'll hopefully try to speak with him a little later in the programme, be interesting to hear his viewpoint, the journey has just made and where he is now, so we'll try to go back to him at some point. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. further school strikes are due to take place in scotland after a union voted to reject the latest pay offer for support staff. unison, the union that represents administrators, catering assistants and janitors, said a rolling programme of strikes in schools and nurseries will take place in the coming weeks, with dates announced within days. parliament's behaviour watchdog has recommended that conservative mp peter bone be suspended for six weeks for bullying and sexual misconduct. it follows a complaint made by a former member of staff, over alleged behaviour which took
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place over ten years ago. the suspension will have to be voted on by the house of commons to be approved. more foreign prisoners are to be deported to their home countries under plans to tackle overcrowding injails. justice secretary, alex chalk is due to set out plans in the commons today for reducing the prison population in england and wales. figures show thatjails are approaching full capacity — you're live with bbc news. translation: a decisive victory on hamas. removing _ translation: a decisive victory on hamas. removing its _ translation: a decisive victory on hamas. removing its threat - translation: a decisive victory on hamas. removing its threat on - translation: a decisive victory on hamas. removing its threat on the | hamas. removing its threat on the state of israel once and for all. i
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have a message to iran and hezbollah. don't repeat the mistakes you already did once, because today you already did once, because today you will pay a much heavier price. join us again, he is a palestinian journalist, he's in gaza having made his way south to a refugee camp. i'm hoping that you can hear me now, hello to you, can you tell me please, the conditions where you are at the moment?— please, the conditions where you are at the moment? thank you, actually i am one of those _ at the moment? thank you, actually i am one of those who _ at the moment? thank you, actually i am one of those who fled _ at the moment? thank you, actually i am one of those who fled from - at the moment? thank you, actually i am one of those who fled from the i am one of those who fled from the north to the south, looking for safety and for water. but we found neither safety nor water. and now i'm moving around the area of the gaza strip, i am at the refugee
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camp, there is garbage in the street, people are in long lines in front of bakeries, and water distribution points because of lack of water and even in the hospitals i have seen paramedics lost control in the hospitals because the huge numbers of bodies and... i have seen lots of people are between the bodies that are in, no room in the wards, bodies on the ground, not on the word itself, which already have a lack of electricity, that's why there are beds now inside and lots of people inside are crying because either because they... because they didn't find the... on the ground. according to what i had seen, may be hundreds of people are still under
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the rubble of that destroyed houses. because lots of people are being targeted but paramedics and rescue teams cannot evacuate the victims, the casualties from the rubble. according to, 1371 families... all of them were killed because most targets are civilians. most targets are civilian people not... you targets are civilians. most targets are civilian people not...- are civilian people not... you said ou are civilian people not... you said you travelled _ are civilian people not... you said you travelled as _ are civilian people not... you said you travelled as many _ are civilian people not... you said you travelled as many hundreds l are civilian people not... you said| you travelled as many hundreds of thousands of people have done from the north of gaza to the south, can you just explained to me and how difficult that journey was? fine you just explained to me and how difficult that journey was?- difficult that “ourney was? one of the difficult that journey was? one of the difficulties _ difficult that journey was? one of the difficulties is _ difficult that journey was? one of the difficulties is how _ difficult that journey was? one of the difficulties is how to - difficult that journey was? one of the difficulties is how to move i difficult that journey was? one of l the difficulties is how to move from north to south. it is about at least
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20, 20 km. i north to south. it is about at least 20,20 km. i decided to walk north to south. it is about at least 20, 20 km. i decided to walk it. but i cannot walk because of my kids, i have children and my wife, they cannot walk. that's why we use a taxi and it's hard to find a taxi, i looked for hours and hours to catch a taxi, and some people with cars, some people with glorious, some people with bicycles and they are carrying their... there is something, they are carrying their stuff and moving to the south, looking for water and safety, which it is also in the south. and... you've outlined very clearly the conditions where you are, what are people most urgently needing? we are hearing about lack of water particularly. hearing about lack of water particularly-—
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hearing about lack of water articularl . . ., ., , particularly. yeah, water now is... when we speak— particularly. yeah, water now is... when we speak about _ particularly. yeah, water now is... when we speak about water, i particularly. yeah, water now is... when we speak about water, we l particularly. yeah, water now is... i when we speak about water, we speak about cleaning, we speak about drinking and taking care of kids, etc, refill some water and there are some water i have heard that some water works all ready have been destroyed. key people cannot reach water even if they allows. carrying children are carrying a gallon looking for water, any kind of water, for drinking orfor washing. and even i have seen people who are schools as children are leaving their schools because inside the schools there are no water. everybody is moving here and here in droves, everybody looking for water
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and who would pay lots of money for just a bucket of water. water, lack of water is the main problem in the gaza strip. not only in the middle area, and maybe it continues, maybe it was days or weeks, now this is one of the main impediments here, some people also, by the way, are suffering from chronic diseases, there is lack of medications, especially those who are taking children, schools and children, there are no... in gaza. that's why people are looking for medication, lack of medication. oort blood pressure, but no medication. that's where they are dying slowly, another point, by the way, sometimes they say to families, move to that safe
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place, there is no sick place. and israeli army makes ambush civilians. semi—, i'm so sorry, we are out of time. i really appreciate you talking to us and telling us what conditions are like where you are in southern gaza, thank you, so may solem, a palestinianjournalist, solem, a palestinian journalist, made solem, a palestinianjournalist, made the journey the journey to the south where he currently is. live now to yaakov amidror — retired major general who served as national security adviser to mr netanyahu between 2011 and 2013.
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he's also a fellow at the jewish national institute of security affairs. thank you so much for joining us. your expertise is to do with the military, the military operation. can you tell us, it feels like we are hearing from our correspondence that there is this huge military build—up on the boundary between israel and gaza. what are the challenges that will face the israeli military in any kind of ground offensive into gaza? after hamas, more than a thousand civilians including babies, women, and men, israel decided to destroy hamas as an organisation. hamas is fighting in populated areas, the people of gaza to move to do the south and we are evacuating at the same time the settlements and cities
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near the border inside israel. the main target of this time is to move civilians out of the battlefield in the palestinian side and in the israeli side so that they will not be killed. hamas is stopping many of these people, don't let them to go out of the area, for hamas the more civilians will be killed, the more the bbc will be... really to sacrifice many many people, their own people, just to have the sympathy around the world and the killing israeli, killing palestinians in the palestinian side, and they are waiting for more palestinians. flan side, and they are waiting for more palestinians.— palestinians. can i ask you about one of the _ palestinians. can i ask you about one of the issues, _ palestinians. can i ask you about one of the issues, one _ palestinians. can i ask you about one of the issues, one of - palestinians. can i ask you about one of the issues, one of the i one of the issues, one of the complicating factors is about the hostages, and just from a military perspective, how do you, how do you
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go into an area like gaza and what are the challenges, what are the difficulties?— difficulties? after hearing all the claims and the _ difficulties? after hearing all the claims and the problems - difficulties? after hearing all the claims and the problems for- difficulties? after hearing all the claims and the problems for the | claims and the problems for the palestinians for a long time, it was i thought they failed to mention, begin by butchering more than a thousand civilians on the israeli side. it is fair to mention it. and out of the question that you asked, we are going into the gaza strip. it's not like in the past in which we had in mind that at the end of the operation we will have to go back to square one. here we are not going back to square one. we want to crush hamas inside gaza. the effect they have almost 200 hostages will not change the plan. of course if we know about specific place in which there are hostages, we will take
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care, but other than that, the fact that they are using civilian as shield against, will not help them this time. not palestinian civilian shield, not hostages that we don't know where are they, that will not save hamas, we will go after hamas into their holes, into the underground system, and it's a huge challenge to our military, it's a urban war, it's very complicated. we really appreciate your time, in outlining the challenges there, thank you for that, stay with us here on bbc news. hello. monday brought us a fairly crisp autumn day with some sunshine, be it a little bit hazy, but it's going to be all change. next day or so, still largely
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dry with sunny spells and some frost around. but midweek onwards, a real change to increasingly windy weather with some heavy rain as well. and that's all courtesy of our second named storm of the season, storm babet, which has formed close to the canary islands. it's pushing its way now — you can see on the satellite image — towards the bay of biscay. and as we head through the middle of the week, this low pressure system merging with another one from the atlantic is going to bring increasingly wet and windy weather, especially across parts of scotland. but we're all going to be seeing some heavy rain widely between about 30 to 50 millimetres, but it's this zone across central and eastern scotland, you can see on the rainfall accumulation map here, we could see between 150—200 millimetres of rain from wednesday to saturday, enough to cause some flooding issues, there'll also be strong winds and big waves, too. now for the rest of the evening and overnight, then, most of us looking dry, perhaps a few showers close to lincolnshire, norfolk as well. clearer skies across the northern half of the uk where we'll see a frost again. but further south, not as cold as last night because we've got more
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cloud around and slightly milder air too. a bit of rain tuesday morning for the likes of cornwall, devon pushing into pembrokeshire as well. most other areas looking dry. plenty of sunshine for scotland, northern and eastern england after any morning mist clears away. snny spells for belfast, i think 1a degrees here. sunny spells for belfast, i think 1a degrees here. but that rain will push across northern ireland. through into the evening hours and overnight into wednesday, wet weather sweeps up across central parts of scotland and more showers start to arrive from the south. it'll be a milder night, so temperatures certainly frost free, between about 8—15 celsius, i think, first thing wednesday. so, yes, some mild air with us, but you can see the proximity of the isobars. that means the winds are starting to pick up and the rain is starting to arrive as well. so wednesday then initially a bit of rain for scotland, looks like we'll see more rain into parts of southern england. some of this potentially heavy, could be thundery, and the winds are rotating around that area of low pressure. so gusts widely between about 35—a5mph on wednesday. it'll be a bit milder compared to monday and tuesday, so highs between about 10 celsius in the north, still chilly there, to about 17 celsius towards the south. and then it's thursday into friday
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that we see the persistent, at times heavy rain and the strong winds, which are likely to cause some disruption. bye— bye.
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this is bbc news. the headlines... reports of an air strike on the
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wrath of crossing from gaza. thousands of people are there trying to enter egypt. the un says it's an advanced text to get the first aid into gaza since israel began bombing the territory. the paper minister joins calls to let in essential supplies. joins calls to let in essential sunplies-— supplies. we must ensure humanitarian _ supplies. we must ensure humanitarian support i supplies. we must ensure i humanitarian support reaches civilians in gaza. this requires egypt and israel to allow in the aid thatis egypt and israel to allow in the aid that is so badly needed.— egypt and israel to allow in the aid that is so badly needed. israel now believes nearly _ that is so badly needed. israel now believes nearly 200 _ that is so badly needed. israel now believes nearly 200 hostages i that is so badly needed. israel now believes nearly 200 hostages are l believes nearly 200 hostages are being held in gaza. prime minister benjamin that yahoo promises to bring them home. there are reports of an explosion, possibly an air strike at the rock for causing —— rafa crossing. thousands of people either hoping it would be opened and allow them to escape the war. washington washington two was helpful it would happen, but it hasn't. many have
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