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and russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov thanks north korea for its loyal support over the war in ukraine. hello. a very warm welcome to the programme. i'm sally bundock. we start with israel and gaza — uk prime minister rishi sunak will be in israel this morning. he will meet israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and president isaac herzog, before travelling to a number of other regional capitals, in a diplomatic bid to prevent fighting from spiralling. downing street says rishi sunak "will express his condolences "for the terrible loss of life in israel and gaza as a result "of hamas�* brutal terrorist attacks." he is also expected to press for humanitarian aid to reach people in gaza "as soon as possible", and for british nationals trapped there to be able to leave. the uk foreign secretaryjames cleverly is also on a series
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of visits in the region, taking in egypt, turkey and qatar over the next few days. meanhwhile, us presidentjoe biden has wrapped up his visit to israel, and offered his support to the country, during a day—long visit, and later unveiled a deal to allow the first humanitarian aid trucks to enter the gaza strip. our correspondent in los angeles, david willis, has more on president biden�*s visit. president biden�*s trip to israel was always a gamble, seeking to support israel's war effort, on the one hand, whilst at the same time looking to ease the growing humanitarian crisis in gaza, but it's a gamble that appears to have paid off. mr biden has rung agreements from both israel and
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egypt to allow the passage of humanitarian aid into gaza. 20 lorry loads to start with, with additional shipments to follow, if the first ones don't fall into the hands of hamas. he has also succeeded in underlying the united states�*s unwavering support for its key ally in the middle east, israel, whilst reminding israel's leaders of the need to abide by the rules of law. not bad, considering that this was a trip which threatened to unravel before air force one had so much left to the tarmac at andrews air force base, after arab leaders cancelled plans for a summit with mr biden following that strike in a hospital in gaza, which those arab leaders have blamed on israel. the us for its part have said its intelligence concerns israel's contention that it was not to blame for that strike.
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nonetheless, the incident has prompted angry protests throughout the region, and mr biden urged his israeli hosts not to be drawn into exhibiting what he called rage and emotion, and make the sort of mistakes that mr biden said the united states had made, following the september 11 attacks. he is expected to reinforce that message of restraint in his address to the american people tonight, but further diplomacy may well be neededin further diplomacy may well be needed in the days and weeks ahead, with a lot of unanswered questions, among them of course, what israel's plans are for gaza, once the war there has ended. meanwhile, there are reports here that in the coming days mr biden is expected to ask congress to approve a package of military aid, both for israel and ukraine, amounting to some 100 billion us dollars. amounting to some 100 billion us dollars-_ us dollars. david willis there in washington _ us dollars. david willis there in washington for _ us dollars. david willis there
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in washington for us. - with more on this, i'm joined by my colleague, said shehata, from bbc arabic. hello again, so you've been monitoring what's happening in gaza overnight. what is the latest? . , , ., latest? the latest is more strikes in _ latest? the latest is more strikes in different - latest? the latest is more strikes in different places| latest? the latest is more i strikes in different places in gaza, close to one of the schools. there are other strikes for some houses in a district, and other places, and some people died and some others injured. i5 some people died and some others injured.— others in'ured. is this near gaza others injured. is this near gaza city _ others injured. is this near gaza city on _ others injured. is this near gaza city on the _ others injured. is this near gaza city on the north - others injured. is this near| gaza city on the north were talking about? mil gaza city on the north were talking about?— talking about? all over the lace. talking about? all over the place. everywhere, - talking about? all over the place. everywhere, and - talking about? all over the | place. everywhere, and this talking about? all over the i place. everywhere, and this is the reason i mentioned in previous interviews, people moved again from the south to the north, because of even the southis the north, because of even the south is not safe, because there are some strikes on some houses, and people are grieving about their loss, for babies,
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women and some innocent people, and even on social media i saw some videos, somewhere saying where is the international community? there are civilians, why are we being targeted? so there is suffering and some have called for international intervention in order to stop the bombardment.— intervention in order to stop the bombardment. now that is what president _ the bombardment. now that is what president biden - the bombardment. now that is what president biden is - the bombardment. now that is what president biden is saying | what president biden is saying has been achieved, in the sense that egypt has agreed to open the rafah crossing to allow humanitarian aid into gaza. it is hoped that will happen soon. what are the arabic press and social media saying about his visit? �* ,., social media saying about his visit? ~ ,., , social media saying about his visit? ~ , , visit? about the visit itself, they were _ visit? about the visit itself, they were not _ visit? about the visit itself, they were not receptive, i visit? about the visit itself, l they were not receptive, they were not welcoming the visit, because after mr biden, his main objective is to support israel and talk about more military support. and even one of the arabic newspapers, one of the arabic newspapers, one
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of the arabic newspapers, one of the main titles called biden and innocent stan, saying that the story is on the side of israel about what happened to the strike against the al—ahli hospital. so mr biden agreed that it hospital. so mr biden agreed thatitis hospital. so mr biden agreed that it is not israel, serve the arab world is more suspicious about that, and even like a formerforeign suspicious about that, and even like a former foreign minister of egypt, he said that because of egypt, he said that because of the west, and america giving a green light for israel, i think their hands are stained with blood. so more accusations especially about the american role in the current crisis. when you and i were speaking yesterday, and we were talking about what has been said about that terrible blast that hit the hospital can me were saying to me yesterday everyone is of one voice that this was israel, they were responsible for this. since our conversation of
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course the israeli defence forces have a lengthy press conference and as you say, it is explaining how it was not them, and as you say, the us president is saying he has agreed it was not israel's fault. in response to all of that, as there more difference in opinion, is there a divided opinion within the arab world now as to who was responsible? it's not, it's still the same, still not believing... it's not, it's still the same, still not believing. . .- still not believing... they still not believing... they still believe _ still not believing... they still believe it _ still not believing... they still believe it is - still not believing... they still believe it is israel? l still believe it is israel? 100%? , still believe it is israel? 10096? , , ., 10096? yes, even some in bahrain. _ 10096? yes, even some in bahrain, using _ 10096? yes, even some in bahrain, using some - 10096? yes, even some in i bahrain, using some slogans used a long time ago, called death to america. so even more criticism for the american role even after the israeli showed through the ministry of defence how it was not israel, but was a failed rocket by islamic jihad, but still this story was not bought by the arab officials of the arab people,
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and sec insisting on a press conference with the german chancellor scholz, that egypt would not be accepting the emptying of gaza to be in sinai, so again there is broad defiance from the arab world that we need to have an end for that, and you shouldn't think about moving the problem and ending according to the egyptian president and other officials in the arab world to move the problem from gaza to egypt, because if this happened, so it might be people from west bank, but going to jordan. by the same token, this is what president sec said. within the arab world there are still some anger about the american role, some angerfrom the american —— from the bombardment. —— president el—sisi. bombardment. -- president el-sisi. ., ~ , ., bombardment. -- president el-sisi. ., . el-sisi. thank you so much, we appreciate _ el-sisi. thank you so much, we appreciate your _ el-sisi. thank you so much, we appreciate your input. - el-sisi. thank you so much, we appreciate your input. let's - appreciate your input. let's unpack this further.
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during president biden�*s visit to israel, he restated his administration's commitment to peace between israel and the palestinians. one area where both live and work together is eastjerusalem. under international law, it's considered a part of the west bank, and therefore, palestinian territory. clive myrie was there and reports on what both communites think about the events of the last few days. in occupied eastjerusalem, some palestinians and jews living here prefer to keep a wide berth. but cheek byjowl, they live. to reach the western wall, a sacred site in thejewish faith, you enter the old city ofjerusalem through the damascus gate — an important cultural icon for palestinians. and in between, along al—wadi street, competing narratives of who owns the ancient stones beneath their feet, and beyond. hyatt ali is 78, watching events in gaza with sorrow.
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translation: we can't doj anything, just pray and cry. there is nothing, nothing... god help us all. moshe knobel, who works in a synagogue on al—wadi street, says he knew in his heart israel did not attack the hospital in gaza, that anti—israeli propaganda is everywhere. so, it's clear in your mind what happened in gaza? with the hospital? last night? 100%. even biden, that came here today, said, "i checked it "out and it's not the israelis." so, there's a lot of lies, a lot of fake news. it's much quieter here today. the palestinian shops are closed in protest over the gaza hospital blast. but the israeli defense force remains on guard.
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there is a tension here, with the nation at war, broken by the exuberance of youth. we came across nitai atari and his friends, all 19 years old, with their lives ahead of them and the pride in their nation. like, i don't hate palestinian people. i hate terrorism. it's really hard for us to live here but we are not going to leave. like, this is our land, our home. then, as the call to prayer sounds, riyad najib appears with his son. for palestinians, the gaza blast, and everything else they've endured over decades, they blame on israel. translation: yes. honestly, the feeling was pain and sadness for what the occupation has done to us, crimes towards our people in this holy land. this is not the first crime and not the last. how old is your son? four. four years old. do you think he will grow up to know peace in this land?
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translation: thank god, all of us love peace, - but how many times have we just talked about peace? live now to ron hassner, chair in israel studies at the university of california, berkeley. a warm welcome to the programme. i'm sure you are listening to our report there from clive myrie, and of course the conversation i had with sid early as well. i would like to get your take on president biden�*s visit and what he achieved, your view on that, to begin with. achieved, your view on that, to begin with-— begin with. first of all, thank ou for begin with. first of all, thank you for having _ begin with. first of all, thank you for having me. _ begin with. first of all, thank you for having me. i - begin with. first of all, thank you for having me. i think- you for having me. i think president biden was looking to achieve several goals, the most important of which and i think the greater success, was so far to deter iran and its militia in southern lebanon from becoming involved in the conflict. hezbollah is much more powerful than hamas, not
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quite as vicious, as we have seenin quite as vicious, as we have seen in the last week and a half, but better armed and better trained, and so far hezbollah has been sabre rattling with regards to israel. there has been some attempts at hezbollah incursions but no second front opened and i think that has much to do with american deterrence, the moving of aircraft carriers to the eastern mediterranean and biden's physical presence in israel. the other goal i think was the same goal that your prime minister is seeking to accomplish, the same goal that the german chancellor short —— sought to accomplish, which was a seat at the table, both to influence israel, to support israel, to indicate israel that the entire civilised world observed the horrors that hamas committed a week and a half ago and is equally outraged and stands behind israel, but at the same time to use that glistening of relationships and that support to advise israel, and to council restraint in the
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ground war that is sure to follow. �* ., , , follow. and opening up the border between _ follow. and opening up the border between egypt - follow. and opening up the border between egypt and | follow. and opening up the - border between egypt and gaza if assuming it does open, which is the hope and expectation now so critical and can get the people of gaza. the humanitarian aid prices isjust terrific, isn't it, in gaza itself? ., , ., itself? in gaza itself and israel, the _ itself? in gaza itself and israel, the entire - itself? in gaza itself and - israel, the entire communities along the lebanese border inside israel have been evacuated and of course hamas rockets on israel have not stopped in the last week and a half. the humanitarian crisis could have been resolved quite easily had hamas chosen to release the 200 hostages it has. there is no sign of hamas willing to negotiate over the hostages. the only other option was to somehow convince the israelis and egyptians to feed gazans and of course also thereby feared, terrorists, this is calling some understandable outrage in israel where people are asking
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why are we supplying, terrorists with food and water and they have not released a single one of our children, are elderly, disabled people, foreigners, tourists, all held god knows where, so this is i think a great gesture on behalf of the united states, egypt and israel i do hope there will be reciprocation from the other side. ., , reciprocation from the other side. . , . , , , side. the military crisis is - re side. the military crisis is pretty clear. _ side. the military crisis is pretty clear, the - side. the military crisis is pretty clear, the united l pretty clear, the united nations has been talking about this extensively over the last few days and they are saying that people in the ground will actually ensure that the aid does just get to the people who need it as opposed to going into the hands of hamas. hopefully. it is very, very difficult, as you've reported often, gaza is very crowded, it is not very large, israel has demanded that large segment of the population moved to south gaza so they can fight hamas in
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the north of gaza while humming a small number of civilians. we've had a united nations report on the last three days first announcing us was obstructing the movement of people away from the fighting, then announcing hamas was intercepting food and water and then even more worrisome in racing those claims from their website presumably inaudible. i will ask you another question. i hope your line will return. let's see if we can persevere with ron. i want to ask, he has gone entirely, which is a real shame. ron hassner, chair in israel studies at the university of california, berkeley. . we have him back. are you with us again? i him back. are you with us auain? him back. are you with us aiain? . ., ., him back. are you with us aain? . . him back. are you with us aiain? ., y., ., you again? i can hear you are. you froze for— again? i can hear you are. you froze for a _ again? i can hear you are. you froze for a moment. _ again? i can hear you are. you froze for a moment. i - again? i can hear you are. you froze for a moment. i wanted | again? i can hear you are. you i froze for a moment. i wanted to ask you before you let you go about what you think might happen next. you talked about the fact that you believe president biden was successful in deterring this from spreading further to iran
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getting involved so far. however, arab leaders did not meet with the president following the terrible attack on the hospital, if you call an attack or whichever side was responsible for that, so what you think might happen next? it was a tragedy regardless of who is responsible. it is a shame the media immediately linked to conclusion which we now know are not true. all evidence coming from european and western intelligence services point at islamichhad including a recording by islamichhad members documenting the fact this was one of their rockets. it is not surprising given the speed with which the media accused israel but arab leaders were only to meet with biden and that's an awful shame because this might have been an opportunity to forge something possible part of this terrible tragedy, namely talk about arrangement after hamas is dismantled. hamas will survive this, there is no scenario in which hamas
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walks away. is no scenario in which hamas walks away-— walks away. crosstalk. the plan _ walks away. crosstalk. the plan for _ walks away. crosstalk. the plan for gaza? - walks away. crosstalk. the plan for gaza? there walks away. crosstalk. - the plan for gaza? there are two options- _ the plan for gaza? there are two options. one _ the plan for gaza? there are two options. one option - the plan for gaza? there are. two options. one option which biden was very worried about was that the israelis had no plan. the only other alternative which i hope will be implemented was that gaza will be restored to the palestinian authority which brought gaza relatively peacefully in the relations with israel from 2005 until it was overthrown by gaza in 2007. if they can be restored, the palestinian authority can rule with the same peace and cooperation in the west bank has it that would in gaza but hamas can't be part of that equation. hamas can't be part of that equation-— hamas can't be part of that equation. ok. i wish we had what i equation. ok. i wish we had what i but — equation. ok. i wish we had what i but sadly _ equation. ok. i wish we had what i but sadly we - equation. ok. i wish we had what i but sadly we have - equation. ok. i wish we had. what i but sadly we have not. thank you there and i'm glad we got the line back ron hassner, chair in israel studies at the university of california, berkeley. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news.
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the met office has issued a rare red weather warning for parts of eastern scotland, amid concern that heavy rains and winds brought by storm babet could cause a risk to life. it's feared the storm could also cause power cuts. people living in areas covered by the warning have been urged to stay home and avoid travel. the metropolitan police has announced its now using facial recognition technology to catch prolific shoplifters. the force asked 12 retailers to provide images of 30 of the worst offenders who steal from their shops, and compared them with the police database. despite criticism from human rights campaigners, met commissioner sir mark rowley described the initial results as "game—changing". welsh water has admitted illegally spilling untreated sewage at dozens of treatment plants for years. the admission came after the bbc presented the water company with analysis of its own data, which showed cardigan in west wales was one of the worst—performing plants. welsh water says it's working to tackle the problems.
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you're live with bbc news. the 39 asylum seekers who were moved off a barge docked at portland harbour in dorset two months ago are due to return later. they were transferred to hotels after legionella bacteria was found in the water system of the bibby stockholm. jenny kumah reports. stockholm arrived in portland in july but stockholm arrived in portland injuly but it's been far from plain sailing for this vessel. its aim was to be the government's flagship solution to the rising hotel bill for asylum seekers. currently standing at around £8 million a day. the first men arrived in august for five days later they were taken off the barge and take into a hotel in devon. legionella bacteria was found in the water system. the latest of a long line of issues holding the bibby stockholm back. how do you feel about
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getting back on the barge? it feels scary. it feels good to be here, not on the barge. this man was— be here, not on the barge. this man was one — be here, not on the barge. this man was one of _ be here, not on the barge. this man was one of 39 _ be here, not on the barge. this man was one of 39 moved off and back on again. he received a letterfrom the home back on again. he received a letter from the home office last week telling him he has to return. how would you say the barge compares to living here? this is like heaven. 0n the barge it is like hell. we were alone, feeling lonely, loneliness. now we are tied to the people, to different clubs like the cricket club. we feel like the cricket club. we feel like we're living in a society. the people of its own town are divided — the people of its own town are divided because of this and we all want — divided because of this and we all want same thing and that no to the _ all want same thing and that no to the barge! the all want same thing and that no to the barge!— to the barge! the barge's arrival this _ to the barge! the barge's arrival this summer - to the barge! the barge's| arrival this summer barge protest. arrival this summer barge rotest. ., ., ., ., protest. no hate, no fear. refugees _ protest. no hate, no fear. refugees are _ protest. no hate, no fear. refugees are welcome - protest. no hate, no fear. i refugees are welcome here. campaigners took the office to court last week arguing the barge needed planning
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permission. thejudge disagreed and threw the case out but the fight against it continues. human beings should be taken care of in communities, not on barges and on the port. i am deeply saddened that human beings are going to be subjected to what i believe is an inhumane way of housing people. an inhumane way of housing --eole. ., , people. the government says sites like this _ people. the government says sites like this barge _ sites like this barge affordable and better communities as healthcare and catering facilities are on—site. the bbc understands dozens more men from across the country are due to be moved on board in coming days. molar country are due to be moved on board in coming days. now they see that there _ board in coming days. now they see that there will _ board in coming days. now they see that there will be _ board in coming days. now they see that there will be 400, - board in coming days. now they see that there will be 400, 500 people. it's a small area that is crowded. if there is a single virus or disease, everyone will be affected. since arrival in the summer this is mainly been an empty vessel. this week they could signal a sea change in the government's battle against the migration challenge. jenny kumar, bbc news, portland.
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the russian foreign minister has thanked north korea for its unwavering support over its war in ukraine. sergei lavrov is in pyongyang, where he has met with his north korean counterpart. last week the us said north korea had begun shipping munitions and military equipment to russia to use in the war. live now to jean mackenzie in seoul. tell us more. mr lavrov has had very little _ tell us more. mr lavrov has had very little about _ tell us more. mr lavrov has had very little about the _ tell us more. mr lavrov has had very little about the trip. - very little about the trip. we've had a about it the north koreans as well but he is in pyongyang to discuss how to implement some of the agreements reached between kim jong—un and butter me. and when they met in russia's firies last month. he did not specify what the agreements were but it's widely believed in the us believes that the two countries have reached an arm deal. that north korea has essentially agreed to provide artillery and ammunition to russia to use to continue its war in ukraine and in return north korea will get military equipment that it
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finds valuable. 0ver military equipment that it finds valuable. over the last week we have, therapies and reports to suggest north korea has already started shipping in large quantities some of their stuff so on friday the us released evidence and intelligence which showed that 300 containers had been shipped from north korea to russia's east coast and had then been transported rightly across the country to a military depot near border. since then we had other open source research is published satellite photos which shows there are two russian ships that have been regularly making this journey from russia and north korea. we think there've been about six roundtrips so far. figs think there've been about six roundtrips so far.— think there've been about six roundtrips so far. as you say, this is the _ roundtrips so far. as you say, this is the latest, _ roundtrips so far. as you say, this is the latest, this - roundtrips so far. as you say, this is the latest, this visit. this is the latest, this visit to pyongyang with sergei lavrov to pyongyang with sergei lavrov to show the closer cooperation between the two countries? yes. between the two countries? yes, as these countries _ between the two countries? yes, as these countries have - between the two countries? 1a: as these countries have become more isolated their interests have big, relied especially now you see we are both in confrontation with the us but as you said sergei lavrov stood up as you said sergei lavrov stood up to thank north korea thought
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he said wasn't unwavering and support for the war in ukraine. they are becoming closer because the interests as we set are now more aligned. russia is thought to this relationship not just to get the thought to this relationship notjust to get the ammunition it needs to carry on fighting this war but also to put pressure on the us to show that it has the potential to disrupt the security situation here in northeast asia.— the security situation here in northeast asia. thank you very much. northeast asia. thank you very much- jean _ northeast asia. thank you very much. jean mackenzie - northeast asia. thank you very much. jean mackenzie in - northeast asia. thank you very much. jean mackenzie in seoulj much. jean mackenzie in seoul for us. the top business stories i hear next one bbc news and the latest on the situation in the middle east. i'll see you in a moment. hello there. well, storm babet continues to push northwards across the uk. its impacts are likely to be felt for much of the rest of the week. in fact, the met office has issued its highest level of alert. it's a rare red warning in force for rain, valid from 6:00 on thursday evening right through until midday on friday. it's for northeastern areas of scotland, parts of angus and southern aberdeenshire.
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the totals are really going to start to stack up. the rain is quite widespread across the uk as we head through the rest of the week, but nowhere more so than across northeastern areas of scotland, where there could be as much as two months�* worth of rainfall by the time we get to the end of the day on friday — around 200—250mm of rain. and that heavy rain is moving northwards — this is storm babet, of course. the winds are strengthening out towards the east coast of scotland. gusts of wind here of around 70mph. the winds lightening towards the south. it's turning drier, here it is. a mild start to the day but, of course, the temperatures are largely academic. and so, that rain will continue to push northwards as we head through the morning. sunshine and showers, some of the showers possibly heavy and thundery across england and wales. the rain will start to turn very heavy, very persistent. it aligns with that strong southeasterly wind as we head through the day on thursday and it willjust keep coming as we come into thursday night and friday morning itself. so, that southeasterly wind driving more rain, acting as a kind of conveyor belt. and there are wider amber weather warnings in force
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across scotland as well, another one for rain across caithness and sutherland, and this one is for wind too. now, with that brisk southeasterly wind, it's not the prevailing wind direction, so there could be some trees down, likely to be some impacts from these strong, gusty winds. but this, of course, is of most concern within the red warning area. now, there could be some extensive flooding, possibly some deep, fast—flowing floodwater, maybe some structural damage as well. some very tricky travelling conditions as well, so dangerous for travel. and then, we see a second area of low pressure. that's just going to enhance the rainfall a little further, i think, on friday. but then, as that low pressure builds through, we still see these gusty winds out towards the east coast. the focus of that rain will tend to be across central areas of england, down through parts of wales and particularly the southeast of england as we head towards the end of the day. still very windy for eastern coasts, but at least the rain lightens across scotland. do keep tuned for the forecast.
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ground war that is sure to follow.
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arriving at your home. and — a new chapter for the global game — the african football league finally kicks off. but with a continent of 1.5 billion people — and just eight clubs signed up — will it live up to the hype? hello. i'm sally bundock, and we'll be focusing on the top business stories in a moment, but first, let me update you on the latest developments in gaza and israel. you so, uk prime minister rishi sunak will be in israel this morning, for talks with the country's leaders, before travelling to other regional capitals. as well as offering condolences for the civilians killed in the deadly hamas attacks, he's expected to press for humanitarian aid to reach people in gaza
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