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update our viewers en update our viewers on some to update our viewers on some information coming into our bbc jerusalem bureau about the hostages. 222, we understand, hostages still being held by hamas and somebody has told the bbc, a source told the bbc that negotiations to release more hostages have entered a serious stage, they are intense and focused through the qatari mediator with the us in order to build on the release of two american hostages on friday. we have heard very little, understandably, by the process of releasing these hostages. we understand israel is possibly with holding its ground invasion, trying to get more people out. what is your analysis of the latest light coming into us? at analysis of the latest light coming into us? ., ., ., ., into us? of the 222 are not all of those are israelis, _ into us? of the 222 are not all of those are israelis, many - into us? of the 222 are not all of those are israelis, many are - into us? of the 222 are not all of. those are israelis, many are foreign nationals _ those are israelis, many are foreign nationals i— those are israelis, many are foreign nationals. i think the hostage talks are focusing on getting first at the foreign _ are focusing on getting first at the foreign nationals out and then the women _ foreign nationals out and then the women and children. for hamas, holding _ women and children. for hamas, holding women and children hostage
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is bad _ holding women and children hostage is bad optics, they know it. quite apart— is bad optics, they know it. quite apart from — is bad optics, they know it. quite apart from the logistical challenge in the _ apart from the logistical challenge in the middle of a war where they are being — in the middle of a war where they are being bombarded of trying to keep— are being bombarded of trying to keep the — are being bombarded of trying to keep the location secret and provide baby food _ keep the location secret and provide baby food and things like that for famiiies— baby food and things like that for families who shouldn't be there, they should never have been kidnapped in the first place, these talks are _ kidnapped in the first place, these talks are at a very sensitive, delicate _ talks are at a very sensitive, delicate stage. qatar is the mediator, why? they provide, they host the _ mediator, why? they provide, they host the political leadership of hamas. — host the political leadership of hamas, particularly in the form of their— hamas, particularly in the form of their political leader, but qatar has already provided a base for them, — has already provided a base for them, not _ has already provided a base for them, not militarily but politically. that's why qatar is instrumental in arranging this. they -ot instrumental in arranging this. they got thanked on friday by president biden, _ got thanked on friday by president biden, prime minister rishi sunak and others. they are hopeful that these _ and others. they are hopeful that these negotiations can continue. for these negotiations can continue. for the tsraetis. — these negotiations can continue. for the israelis, the dilemma for them is do _ the israelis, the dilemma for them is do anything hamas is simply stringing — is do anything hamas is simply stringing them along in the hopes of delaying _ stringing them along in the hopes of delaying this long—awaited military incursion, —
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delaying this long—awaited military incursion, or do theyjust say, this is a waste — incursion, or do theyjust say, this is a waste of— incursion, or do theyjust say, this is a waste of time, there stringing us along, — is a waste of time, there stringing us along, we will never get them all out, let's_ us along, we will never get them all out, let's go— us along, we will never get them all out, let's go in? there will be lots of pressure — out, let's go in? there will be lots of pressure on the israelis to stay their— of pressure on the israelis to stay their hand — of pressure on the israelis to stay their hand because once they go in militarily— their hand because once they go in militarily into the gaza strip it is very unlikely negotiations to release _ very unlikely negotiations to release these hostages peacefully will be _ release these hostages peacefully will be able to continue.— release these hostages peacefully will be able to continue. thank you. paul will be able to continue. thank you. paul, back — will be able to continue. thank you. paul. back to _ will be able to continue. thank you. paul, back to you. _ will be able to continue. thank you. paul, back to you. we've _ will be able to continue. thank you. paul, back to you. we've had - will be able to continue. thank you. paul, back to you. we've had a - will be able to continue. thank you. paul, back to you. we've had a few| paul, back to you. we've had a few questions about the rafah cross, much of the focus on it in the last few days with this limited aid, 3a trucks having gone in the last 2a hours and some more today. louise asks, "since the opening of the rafah cording for aid trucks there does not seem to be any report of civilians with dual nationalities getting out of gaza into egypt. do we know if any have done so?" and michael asks, "if the rafah crossing into egypt is opened to allow people with foreign passports to leave gaza or for humanitarian purposes, who will be carrying out checks and will israel have any way of preventing hamas leaders and supporters from also leaving?" i think that question kind of
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highlights why this hasn't happened so far. yes, there are potentially hundreds and hundreds of dual nationals in the gaza strip. we know lots of palestinian americans, lots of anglo palestinians. we have seen people waving their passports saying, "let me out." just as there are negotiations to get the hostages out that frank was just talking about there are also negotiations to try and get some of these dual nationals out. but at the moment that rafah crossing is only open for this tiny my main, minuscule amount of aid that has crossed in the last couple of days. all the negotiations aimed at trying to get civilians out, those have so far come to naught. i suspect it is partly because israel does not want to allow people who it may want to try and detain or kill to escape. but it is a brutal reality for people, some of whom were literallyjust is a brutal reality for people, some of whom were literally just there is a brutal reality for people, some of whom were literallyjust there on
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family visits, but they found themselves trapped in the middle of a war, the worst war to take place in the gaza strip in its long and terrible history.— in the gaza strip in its long and terrible history. thank you. frank, back to yom _ terrible history. thank you. frank, back to you. lots _ terrible history. thank you. frank, back to you. lots of _ terrible history. thank you. frank, back to you. lots of questions - back to you. lots of questions online around security issues, we have this one asking will iran join the world do they have nuclear weapons? let the world do they have nuclear weapons?— the world do they have nuclear wea ons? ., ., _ , weapons? let me do the easy bit first, iran weapons? let me do the easy bit first. iran is _ weapons? let me do the easy bit first, iran is not _ weapons? let me do the easy bit first, iran is not thought - weapons? let me do the easy bit first, iran is not thought to - weapons? let me do the easy bit first, iran is not thought to have l first, iran is not thought to have nuclear— first, iran is not thought to have nuclear weapons. first, iran is not thought to have nuclearweapons. it first, iran is not thought to have nuclear weapons. it does have a civil nuclear programme which many, especially— civil nuclear programme which many, especially israel, suspect of having a military— especially israel, suspect of having a military dimension, in other words. — a military dimension, in other words. the _ a military dimension, in other words, the israelis and others suspect— words, the israelis and others suspect iran of working of having the capability of producing a nuclear— the capability of producing a nuclear bomb. iran denies this. they say their— nuclear bomb. iran denies this. they say their civil — nuclear bomb. iran denies this. they say their civil nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes and it is not thought _ for peaceful purposes and it is not thought to — for peaceful purposes and it is not thought to have a nuclear weapon at the moment, not yet, anyhow. will iran the moment, not yet, anyhow. will tranioin_ the moment, not yet, anyhow. will tranioin in— the moment, not yet, anyhow. will iranjoin in this? not easily. iran has a _ iranjoin in this? not easily. iran has a number of what is called proxies— has a number of what is called proxies around the middle east of
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which _ proxies around the middle east of which hamas is one and hezbollah is another~ _ which hamas is one and hezbollah is another. hezbollah is a very powerful, well armed militia in south — powerful, well armed militia in south of— powerful, well armed militia in south of lebanon which is an important part of the lebanese political— important part of the lebanese political scene, but there are also the dominant military force. they fought— the dominant military force. they fought the inconclusive war with israet— fought the inconclusive war with tsraet in — fought the inconclusive war with israel in 2006 which left them intact — israel in 2006 which left them intact more or less, they suffered a fair bit _ intact more or less, they suffered a fair bit of— intact more or less, they suffered a fair bit of damage but so did tsraet — fair bit of damage but so did israel. since then they have rebuilt their arsenal of weapons with iranian— their arsenal of weapons with iranian help. they have around 150,000 — iranian help. they have around 150,000 rockets and missiles, some of which _ 150,000 rockets and missiles, some of which are — 150,000 rockets and missiles, some of which are precision guided at long _ of which are precision guided at long range, enough to be able to take out— long range, enough to be able to take out entire ministry buildings in tel— take out entire ministry buildings in tel aviv— take out entire ministry buildings in tel aviv and jerusalem, should they choose to. but they also know that if— they choose to. but they also know that if they — they choose to. but they also know that if they do that, if theyjoin in with— that if they do that, if theyjoin in with iran's say so, then they will almost _ in with iran's say so, then they will almost certainly get retaliatory strikes and from us navy strike _ retaliatory strikes and from us navy strike group station just offshore in the _ strike group station just offshore in the eastern mediterranean. this is why— in the eastern mediterranean. this is why it _ in the eastern mediterranean. this is why it is — in the eastern mediterranean. this is why it is such a tense tinderbox in the _ is why it is such a tense tinderbox
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in the middle east. iran made it clear. _ in the middle east. iran made it clear. if— in the middle east. iran made it clear, if the slaughter, as they put it, clear, if the slaughter, as they put it. of— clear, if the slaughter, as they put it, of palestinians continues in gaza, — it, of palestinians continues in gaza, especially if israel goes in with an — gaza, especially if israel goes in with an incursion, they cannot stand idly by~ _ with an incursion, they cannot stand idly by~ but — with an incursion, they cannot stand idly by. but so far they have not reacted~ — idly by. but so far they have not reacted. ., ., , , ., ., reacted. the follow-up question also onfine reacted. the follow-up question also online is, "what _ reacted. the follow-up question also online is, "what happens _ reacted. the follow-up question also online is, "what happens if— reacted. the follow-up question also online is, "what happens if iran - online is, "what happens if iran attacks israel?" it online is, "what happens if iran attacks israel?"— online is, "what happens if iran attacks israel?" it is very unlikely to take on _ attacks israel?" it is very unlikely to take on a _ attacks israel?�* it is very unlikely to take on a new— attacks israel?" it is very unlikely to take on a new adversary - to take on a new adversary unilaterally. it would only do that, i unilaterally. it would only do that, tthink. _ unilaterally. it would only do that, tthink. in— unilaterally. it would only do that, i think, in response to an end attack— i think, in response to an end attack by— i think, in response to an end attack by iran, a really big attack by attack by iran, a really big attack try iran— attack by iran, a really big attack by tran or— attack by iran, a really big attack by iran or its proxies. israel realty— by iran or its proxies. israel really has _ by iran or its proxies. israel really has its hands full in the west— really has its hands full in the west bank where there is rising tension — west bank where there is rising tension. more and more people are getting _ tension. more and more people are getting shot, mostly palestinians. clashes _ getting shot, mostly palestinians. clashes there. obviously in gaza they have — clashes there. obviously in gaza they have got over 300,000 troops surrounding gaza, poised to go in on this long _ surrounding gaza, poised to go in on this long promised military incursion. and they have got problems— incursion. and they have got problems on the northern border with exchanges _ problems on the northern border with exchanges of fire with hezbollah. they do _ exchanges of fire with hezbollah. they do not need to take on an entire — they do not need to take on an entire state versus state war with iran, _ entire state versus state war with tran, which— entire state versus state war with iran, which would be devastating by the way— iran, which would be devastating by the way for— iran, which would be devastating by
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the way for both sides. iran doesn't want _ the way for both sides. iran doesn't want that— the way for both sides. iran doesn't want that any more than israel does. you wanted — want that any more than israel does. you wanted to come in on this, paul? absolutely. just to say that judging by what we have seen so far along israel's northern border, the skirmishes that have been escalating over the last couple of weeks, they clearly pose a real danger. the israelis have had to evacuate tens of thousands of civilians across the border just of thousands of civilians across the borderjust in case, and a good proportion of those reservists who have been mobilised in the last couple of weeks are there on the northern border. only some of them are down around gaza because, as frank has indicated, hezbollah is an infinitely more capable and destructive opponent than hamas. and so that danger along the northern border is regarded as a very real one. but so far, i think most people would agree probably that the skirmishing does not seem to amount to a kind of strategic or tactical decision by hezbollah and its iranian backers to go all out.
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benjamin netanyahu, israel's prime minister, would have catastrophic consequences for lebanon should they do that. and of course hezbollah with the memory of what happened in 2006 will be aware of that, will be aware that the lebanese population won't exactly welcome another episode like that.— won't exactly welcome another episode like that. another question to ou, episode like that. another question to you. paul. _ episode like that. another question to you, paul, from _ episode like that. another question to you, paul, from chris, _ episode like that. another question to you, paul, from chris, asking" . episode like that. another question to you, paul, from chris, asking" if| to you, paul, from chris, asking" if you think hamas would have expected this reaction from israel? is this what they would have wanted?" it is hard to see — what they would have wanted?" it 3 hard to see how anyone would want to see the death of more than 5000 now, and it's a staggering figure. 5000 of their own fellow palestinian siblings. look at the way hamas operated right on october the 7th. they went in with bodycams and head comes, they recorded their actions are they recorded some of the most unspeakable things you could possibly imagine. and by the way, the israelis today are showing some of that of the media here because the israelis believe and say that we in the media and in the outside
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world in general still do not quite comprehend exactly what happened on that terrible, terrible day. yes, how must clearly knew that by doing this they would invite a dreadful israeli response. they have been through some of these episodes in the past and those were bad enough. they knew that this devastating attack on israel, perhaps more successful in their terms than they could possibly have imagined, would generate an extraordinarily vengeful israeli response. they seem to want to suck israel in. but i think the truth of the matter is that when israel does go in, and i think it is probably a matter of time not if but when, then israel is determined once and for all to route the organisation militarily and politically out of the gaza strip. paul adams injerusalem and front garden in the studio, thank you very much. thank you as ever for your expertise and thank you for your
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questions. we will continue to do these your questions answered every day so that you can ask us and our experts for all of those urgent questions. do stay with us on bbc news. we will be back with the latest very shortly. thanks for watching. good afternoon. most of us started off our working week on a cooler but quieter note — welcome news. but there was some rain around and some of it fairly persistent out towards the southwest with this weather front. we could also see more rain moving into the southeast of england later on in the day. but that front out to the west, well, it broughtjust shy of two inches of rain injust six hours. the isles of scilly,
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it was a miserable start to monday morning here. elsewhere, a few scattered showers moving their way up through wales. but it's a relatively quiet day for many and in fact we've got sunshine across northern england and for the bulk of scotland. as we go through the day, clouding over a little across england and wales, particularly down to the southeast where there's a risk of some rain arriving here to close out play. temperatures generally around 11 to 16 degrees, a smidge above where they should be really still for this time of year. as we go through the evening and overnight, we'll see some rain, some of it heavy, pushing its way in areas where we don't need it across east anglia, lincolnshire, parts of the east midlands and into yorkshire as well. and at the same time that's going to bejoined by another weather front moving in from the southwest. with the cloud and rain around, those temperatures will hold up into double digits, but there's more wet weather to come as we go through to tuesday. so if we look at that in a little more detail, it's this weather front that's just pushing in off the north sea and it might bring outbreaks of rain — fairly showery, but nevertheless, we do not need any more rain in these areas. and that's going to be persistently there throughout the day. to the north of that, we keep some sunshine and a drier story in scotland.
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to the south, there'll be a few scattered showers. and again, those temperatures between 11 and 16 degrees. wednesday will start off on a relatively quiet note with a ridge of high pressure. it's not going to last as the next frontal system is likely to nudge in from the west as we go through the day. so it'll be a quiet start, a few showers pushing in off the north sea. some sunshine for some of us across england and wales before outbreaks of rain arrive by the end of the day on wednesday. a little bit cooler, 10 to iii degrees on the whole. but that weather front will bring some wet and windy weather potentially thundery to begin with as it moves its way steadily north and east. don't expect any change to the weather story as we move to the weekend and into next week. it stays pretty autumnal.
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live from london. this is bbc news. israel intensifies its bombardment of the gaza strip, with dozens of strikes targeting the south of the territory. israeli forces say they have carried out limited raids inside the gaza strip — as troops wait to launch a ground offensive. more trucks queue up at the rafah crossing from egypt, waiting for the green light to head into gaza. the un agency for palestinian refugees says the situation in southern gaza is so bad, some civilians are returning north, despite israeli warnings to stay away.
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hello, i'm luxmy gopal, welcome to verified live, three hours of breaking stories and checking out the truth behind them. israel has kept up its intensified bombardment of the gaza strip, with dozens of the latest strikes in the south of the territory. the israelis had told palestinians to head to southern gaza for their own safety before a possible ground offensive, but some gazans have moved back to their homes in the north, because of shortages of food and water, and because they don't feel safer in the south. israeli forces say they have carried out limited incursions inside the gaza strip in the lead—up to a possible ground offensive. an army spokesman said one soldier was killed by an anti—tank missile fired by hamas. the raids are also aimed at gaining information on the whereabouts of the more than 200 hostages being held in gaza.
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