live from washington, this is bbc news. large explosions are seen in gaza as israel's bombardment bills. israelalso gaza as israel's bombardment bills. israel also says it is expanding ground operations. the course for humanitarian trees is 120 countries vote in favour of a resolution. meanwhile, the humanitarian situation in gaza grows worse. hamas health ministry says 7000 people have been killed since israel's bombing began. you arejoining me for bbc�*s

ongoing coverage of the israel—gaza war. waves of intensity extracts over gaza, much heavier than in previous notes. the army says it is increasing the number of abstracts in the territory and expanding its ground force operations. in gaza, sirens are warning of malt rocket fire to come and communications, including phone and internet have been cut off, making it nearly impossible for residents to reach anyone. amid the darkness, explosions are intensifying. gaza city residents have been want to move south for their safety. hamas says it is clashing with israeli forces in northern gaza and take it into israeli cities with intense missile pariahs. an overwhelming majority of the un general assembly voted in favour of any media trees in gaza, adopting a resolution that condemns all acts of

violence against palestinian and israeli civilians. it calls for unhindered eight and the protection of civilians and we will bring a model later in the programme. it is happening at the humanitarian situation in gazais the humanitarian situation in gaza is growing increasingly dire. palestinian red crescent society says that they will run out of fuel in the coming hours and will be unable to provide emergency medical services in gaza without fuel for ambulances. jeremy bowen has the latest from jerusalem. not long after dark, the bombardment of gaza intensified. israel called it expanding ground operations. hamas said it was fighting an israeli incursion into the northern gaza strip, and fired salvos of rockets back into israel. the un secretary—general�*s pleas for a humanitarian ceasefire were drowned out. "this is a moment of truth," he said. "history willjudge us all." the day that led up to this had moments of quiet,

though not of hope. in khan younis hospital in southern gaza, they stopped for the noon prayer, after another deadly night. then israel released video of its naval commandos raiding targets on the gaza coast. somewhere, hidden inside gaza, are more than 200 hostages taken by hamas. talks to free at least some of them were said to be going well in the hours before israel's new onslaught. many palestinians believe israel wants to force them out of gaza for good. this lawyer was writing, "my heart, my heartbeat," on the shroud of his baby, stillborn after his pregnant wife was killed. like many other civilians, they stayed in northern gaza after israel ordered them to leave. later, israel released video what it says was an attack on the hamas tunnel network.

was it a clue of what was coming? israeli military commanders said again that hamas uses palestinian civilians as human shields, and they said hamas has bunkers under gaza city's main hospital. this is an illustration of shifa hospital, and the underground facilities. i want to repeat, this is only an illustration. we will not share here the true material. terrorists move freely in shifa hospital, and other hospitals in gaza. we have concrete evidence that hundreds of terrorists flooded into the hospital to hide there, after the massacre of october 7th. about ten kilometres from gaza, in ashkelon, volunteers were signing up for duty with the israeli police. they were issued with brand—new american assault rifles by itamar ben—gvir,

israel's national security minister. he has a conviction for inciting racism. many israelis think he is a dangerous extremist. ben—gvir believes israel can eliminate hamas and destroy palestinian hopes for independence. but he was popular here at the police station. the volunteers believe his plan to arm civilians is the best way to protect their families. 0n the other side, they are not humans, they are monsters. we need to take gaza. gaza belongs to us. we need to take gaza and then we can transfer it to the palestinian authorities. but first we need to take gaza. it's beach weather, but they were empty as israel's troops prepare to go into gaza. it feels as fragile here as in the years after the holocaust, according to the former speaker of parliament. people sentimentally and emotionally are back to �*45-�*48.

we are pre—state emotionally, we are no—state economically and socially, and we have no answer what to do with the next—door neighbour. so of course there is a need for a new call, for a new paradigm. it's a very, very difficult trauma. but a very promising renaissance. and every birth comes to the world with a lot of pain and blood. before the chance of a brighter future comes a present that is grim and getting grimmer. a hamas rocket beat ashkelon�*s defences in the last hours before the israeli offensive. and this evening... explosions. ..in the dark night over gaza, israel is sending in wave after wave of strikes by heavy artillery and aircraft. jeremy bowen, bbc news, jerusalem.

with me on said is the contributing editor at politico and founder of the civic media. and a seniorfellow and founder of the civic media. and a senior fellow and director of the middle east security programme at the centre for a new american security. a warm welcome to you both and thank you for being with us. you have covered this region extensively. just to begin with, your thoughts on what we are seeing potentially unfold tonight? i what we are seeing potentially unfold tonight?— what we are seeing potentially unfold tonight? i think what we are seeing _ unfold tonight? i think what we are seeing is — unfold tonight? i think what we are seeing is the _ unfold tonight? i think what we are seeing is the kind - unfold tonight? i think what we are seeing is the kind of - are seeing is the kind of shaping of the battlefield. i do not think this is a big ground invasion everyone is expecting, the rolling end of tens of thousands of troops, lots of tanks that will stay there for a prolonged period of time. i think what they are trying to do some small tactical operations, to go in, suss out what they have destroyed, but they still have

to destroy, perhaps they know a little bit more about where the hostages can be. and see what it needs to do. they could also try to clear an area to set up a base of operations. 0vernight, we will see whether those tanks are still there in the morning or they will go in and go out. and i think this could also portend what we could also portend what we could see in terms of this ground encouragement. 0bviously, ground encouragement. obviously, the us has been looking for the israelis to maybe do something short of a full on invasion and something more surgical, more tactical, to destroy hamas infrastructure and leadership but really take in mind the further destruction and devastation of civilian casualties and also to allow space and time for the hostages, to find a release for the hostages.— hostages, to find a release for the hostages. what do you make ofthat the hostages. what do you make of that assessment? _ the hostages. what do you make of that assessment? do - the hostages. what do you make of that assessment? do you - of that assessment? do you agree or do you think this is

the opening salvo of something much larger? i the opening salvo of something much larger?— much larger? i think her sentiment _ much larger? i think her sentiment is _ much larger? i think her. sentiment is implausible. much larger? i think her- sentiment is implausible. right now everyone is looking at the escalation, whether it is they israeiis — escalation, whether it is they israeiis or— escalation, whether it is they israelis or hezbollah. it is almost _ israelis or hezbollah. it is almost like the sergeant blows the whistle and thousands of troops — the whistle and thousands of troops come over the top, it may— troops come over the top, it may not— troops come over the top, it may not look that way. we may have _ may not look that way. we may have more _ may not look that way. we may have more of a slow boiling frog — have more of a slow boiling frog scenario where escalation happened slower. you might see some _ happened slower. you might see some increase but it remains to be seen — some increase but it remains to be seen i— some increase but it remains to be seen. i think the israelis right— be seen. i think the israelis right now, the operation seems focused — right now, the operation seems focused on clearing some territory, making contact on enemy _ territory, making contact on enemy underground to get a sense — enemy underground to get a sense whether they are strong or weak— sense whether they are strong or weak but it has been almost skirmish— or weak but it has been almost skirmish like in terms of the style — skirmish like in terms of the style. that may continue. this is really— style. that may continue. this is really new territory for the israeiis _ is really new territory for the israelis. . ~ is really new territory for the israelis. ., ~ ., ,., israelis. talking about it bein: israelis. talking about it being new _ israelis. talking about it being new territory -

israelis. talking about it being new territory the l being new territory the israelis, if idf forces going in whatever capacity they do go in, what do you think they will be encountering in terms of combat? this kind of warfare, how challenging will it be? it would not be the kind of extracts and they kill everybody. it is going to be building to building, going in and if there will be mazes and tunnels and as we have been discussing over the last couple of weeks, these are reservists going in and they are not really experience with this type of urban guerrilla, if you will, combat and i think that is what the us has been warning, to take a lesson we took for the insurgency in iraq. it was much harder to go after some areas than we thought it was going to be and we have seen in afghanistan as well, with some of these caves, it is very difficult and a lot of people are not sure whether the israeli military is up to the israeli military is up to the task. they certainly have

the task. they certainly have the manpower but this type of warfare is almost antithetical to that. ., ., , warfare is almost antithetical to that-_ i - warfare is almost antithetical i to that._ i would to that. your thoughts? i would no to that. your thoughts? i would go further. _ to that. your thoughts? i would go further, this _ to that. your thoughts? i would go further, this might - to that. your thoughts? i would go further, this might be - to that. your thoughts? i would go further, this might be a - go further, this might be a precedent in terms of the difficulty of operation. a good example might be the closest that america has come in history. _ that america has come in history, the participation and operation in mossel which were incredibly destructive and difficult. and it will not hold a candle _ difficult. and it will not hold a candle to this in terms of difficulty. —— mosul. it is a counter_ difficulty. —— mosul. it is a counter insurgency and a huge difference between isis and hamas— difference between isis and hamas is isis's legitimacy in the local_ hamas is isis's legitimacy in the local population is questionable at best, certainly at that— questionable at best, certainly at that stage of the operation. acre _ at that stage of the operation. acre won _ at that stage of the operation. acra won by and large remains nonuian —

acra won by and large remains popular. individual fighters are picking up guns and fighting. are picking up guns and fighting-— are picking up guns and fighting. are picking up guns and fiuuhtin.~ �* ., ., ., fighting. we're going to take a look now at — fighting. we're going to take a look now at that _ fighting. we're going to take a look now at that united - fighting. we're going to take a| look now at that united nations resolution because the un approved a non—binding resolution, calling for a humanitarian truce in gaza and it came hours just after israel defence forces announced the expansion of the ground operation. this is the moment the resolution and two—thirds of support and past. it is a first un response to the ongoing war after security council failed on for attempts to reach consensus on any action. now the resolution proposed byjordan had the backing of more than 45 member states including egypt, are mine and the uae.120 states including egypt, are mine and the uae. 120 states voted departed and 13 voted to reject it and 45 states have abstained from voting altogether. the resolution

calls for a "immediate, durable and sustained humanitarian truce" and it also demands that all parties comply with international and humanitarian law. it also calls for the flow of essential aid into gaza and the release of all civilian hostages. jordan's resolution makes no mention of the unprecedented attack on israel by hamas on october seven. it's passing comes as inside gaza residents are lacking aid and communication as well. the director general of the world health organization posted on x... he added... back at the un, the israeli

ambassador condemned the resolution. todayis today is a day that will go down in infamy. we have all witnessed that the un no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance. this organisation was founded in the wake of the holocaust for the purpose of preventing atrocities, yet the spectacle we just sold proves beyond a doubt that the un is committed, sadly, tragically, not too preventing but ensuring further atrocities. the palestinian ambassador has also been speaking, take a lesson. , ., ~ ,, , , lesson. the general assembly prevailed. _ lesson. the general assembly prevailed, and _ lesson. the general assembly prevailed, and send _ lesson. the general assembly prevailed, and send the - prevailed, and send the appropriate message, not only to the palestinian people that there is justice and fairness, and humanitarian law upheld by the general assembly but it also sent a message to everyone, enough is enough, this war has to stop, the

carnage against our people has to stop, and humanitarian assistance should begin to enter the gaza strip with at least 100 truckloads of humanitarian assistance, and to stop the crime against humanity of forced transfer. fiur stop the crime against humanity of forced transfer.— of forced transfer. our un correspondent _ of forced transfer. our un correspondent has - of forced transfer. our un correspondent has been . correspondent has been following the day's events and send this update.— send this update. diplomats were voting _ send this update. diplomats were voting just _ send this update. diplomats were voting just as - send this update. diplomats were voting just as israel. send this update. diplomatsl were voting just as israel had expanded its aerial and ground assault into gaza. the resolution passed with a round of applause with an overwhelming number of nations in the general assembly supporting it, some noting the world was watching how the general assembly who would act after four failed resolutions in the security council. the united nations had described how palestinians were living a hell on earth because of israel's bombardment and seeds,

and they pleaded for life—saving supplies to get in unhindered including water and fuel and basic medicines, and food supplies. they also had wanted to see a ceasefire. this issue has divided western nations, we saw the united states, israel's staunchest ally vote against this resolution, the uk, canada and some other european nations abstained, they argue that there was not a direct condemnation of hamas in the resolution for the october seven attack, but the authors had argued that the resolution was strictly humanitarian, it did not blame either hamas or israel and it did mention the october seven attacks in the 0ctober seven attacks in the text. several european members did vote in favour of this, including france, ireland, spain and belgium, whose

ambassador remarked after the boat that even warhead rules. israel had opposed saying they had a right to self—defence, that this stop their ability to protect their citizens from the threat posed by hamas, and in the chamber, they attacked the legitimacy of the united nations and claimed there was no humanitarian crisis in gaza. well, this draft put forward by arab nations is not legally binding, and so, it is unlikely to cause israel to change its course, but it does carry the weight of world opinion. against the backdrop of that diplomacy, gaza's hamas health controlled ministry says that 3700 and — controlled ministry says that 3700 and - 7000 controlled ministry says that 3700 and — 7000 plus people have been killed since the attack. we can take a look at live pictures of gaza city where you can see these guys

are dark, there are concerns over further israeli airstrikes, and more than 40% of the casualties there have been children. a senior un official is mourning many more will die from catastrophic aid shortages because of the seas on the strip. the bbc reports on the strip. the bbc reports on the strip. the bbc reports on the dire situation. by any means possible... precious water borne towards the thirsty and the tired. here, seeking shelter in schools, confined in a place the un says is becoming a place the un says is becoming a hell. you can see the pain we live in, my husband suffers from a stroke, says this woman. i plead to the whole world, to

look at the palestinian people with a merciful eyes. samaria is from a refugee family. like many palestinians whose children and grandchildren were born in refugee camps, by nearly 75 years the un has been working to meet the welfare needs of palestinian refugees. every look back over our shoulders, this is a timeline. now, representatives are calling for a ceasefire to allah to make humanitarian aid into gaza. ~ ., ., ,, into gaza. what has happened now in gaza — into gaza. what has happened now in gaza is _ into gaza. what has happened now in gaza is a _ into gaza. what has happened now in gaza is a horrific- now in gaza is a horrific slaughter, 2.2 million people in a _ slaughter, 2.2 million people in a tiny— slaughter, 2.2 million people in a tiny patch of land, it is about— in a tiny patch of land, it is about 45— in a tiny patch of land, it is about 45 kilometres long by 20 at its _ about 45 kilometres long by 20 at its largest point, so it is at its largest point, so it is a strip— at its largest point, so it is a strip and there is nowhere for those _ a strip and there is nowhere for those people to go, negatively.— for those people to go, neaativel . , ., ., negatively. many have tried to find sanctuary _ negatively. many have tried to

find sanctuary in _ negatively. many have tried to find sanctuary in schools. - negatively. many have tried to find sanctuary in schools. all. find sanctuary in schools. all teaching has stopped. generations are crowded together here. still, the customary abilities are observed. this woman was also displaced in 1948, gaza back then was a refuge. today, it is a trap. then was a refuge. today, it is a tra. �* ,, �* then was a refuge. today, it is a tra. �* ,, ~ , then was a refuge. today, it is a tra. �* ,, �* , , a trap. translation: is very hard. i a trap. translation: is very hard- i live — a trap. translation: is very hard. i live next _ a trap. translation: is very hard. i live next to _ a trap. translation: is very hard. i live next to the - hard. i live next to the toilets, i'm very sick, and more than 30 members of my family have been killed. there is not much — family have been killed. there is not much in _ family have been killed. there is not much in life _ family have been killed. there is not much in life that - family have been killed. there is not much in life that she - is not much in life that she has not seen, or has any choice about what she must now endure. with me tonight in the studio are our panel, elise, founder of the sydney media and of course jonathan law, of the sydney media and of coursejonathan law, senior fellow and director of the middle east security programme

at the centre for a new american security, good to have you both with us tonight. jonathan, of course, wejust saw in that report the devastating humanitarian situation which we are witnessing in gaza right now. we have also seen the same time today devote on a resolution causing demo calling for a humanitarian truce. it's worth pointing out it is not binding. do you think it carries anyway to? ., ., ., , ., to? now, not really. frankly, palestinians _ to? now, not really. frankly, palestinians in _ to? now, not really. frankly, palestinians in gaza - to? now, not really. frankly, palestinians in gaza have - to? now, not really. frankly,| palestinians in gaza have been living in destitution for quite some time, hamas has been in charge of gaza since 2007, there has been a status quo in which support from gulf countries has come in, as of october 6,000 of palestinians 0ctober 6,000 of palestinians were coming into israel every day for work where you can earn ten times as much money and at the same time hamas, which has control the gaza strip for almost two decades, has roughly half $1 billion in real estate,

real property and get $350 million as a budget from iran, so a lot of the problems on the ground have long been in the making and otherwise have been made by others that are not israel. israel faces a problem in that hummus has placed itself at the very centre of civilian infrastructure, that's not by accident, that's purposeful, of course, whatever they could do to defeat hummus comes with that hamas comes with a terrible cost to civilians.— with a terrible cost to civilians. ~ ., ., , ., ~ civilians. what do you think the prime _ civilians. what do you think the prime minister - civilians. what do you think the prime minister will - civilians. what do you think the prime minister will be i the prime minister will be making of this, seeing what happened today at the united nations, do you think that will carry any weight, or are we past this point now? i agree with jonathan. _ past this point now? i agree with jonathan. there - past this point now? i agree with jonathan. there is - past this point now? i agree with jonathan. there is no, | past this point now? i agree i with jonathan. there is no, for withjonathan. there is no, for israei. — withjonathan. there is no, for israei. they— withjonathan. there is no, for israel, they will be a pause, either— israel, they will be a pause, either when they feel that they have _ either when they feel that they have destroyed enough of hamas or when— have destroyed enough of hamas or when the pressure from mostly— or when the pressure from mostly the united states but some — mostly the united states but some of— mostly the united states but some of the others, just gets too strong, but i don't think

that— too strong, but i don't think that what— too strong, but i don't think that what happened at the un will force a truce, no. | that what happened at the un will force a truce, no.- will force a truce, no. i want to ick will force a truce, no. i want to pick you _ will force a truce, no. i want to pick you rip _ will force a truce, no. i want to pick you up on _ will force a truce, no. i want to pick you up on what - will force a truce, no. i want to pick you up on what you l will force a truce, no. i want i to pick you up on what you said in regards to the us with regards to the white house because we know president biden, the administration had been calling for pauses to allow aid and, distinctive course from a ceasefire. do you think that pressure will continue to be applied to? i do. originally diplomats say that president biden was a little too close for comfort in terms of tilting towards israel's legitimate right to go after hamas without kind of paying enough mind to the palestinian destruction that it would cause and it's been hard to write the ship in terms of having both in mind, that there is a need to destroy the threat but also to pay attention to the thousands and thousands of casualties, and president biden has said i don't trust hamas's

numbers, and even if it is a quarter of the people killed that her mother �*s stomach hamas said, it is far greater than —— hamas said, is far greater than it should be. the might be pauses in the fighting for aid to get in, it will be very difficult and puts aid workers and a lot ofjeopardy and has to be very carefully choreographed, but you have to get aid in. choreographed, but you have to getaid in. the un has described it as a hellhole, it's going to get a lot worse, we're going to see a lot more health conditions, disease and sickness if they don't start to get some of that aid and soon. i want to take that to you jonathan because the idf is calling on palestinians to move to the south and we have seen bombings and areas such as in the south, and palestinians have been saying that they should be going back to the north, a lot of chaos in disarray, and the situation therefore aid workers, we know

therefore aid workers, we know the world health organization said that tonight they lost contact with the team, medications are down. what are risks do you think now to the civilian population in light of what we are seeing potentially unfolding tonight? i what we are seeing potentially unfolding tonight?— unfolding tonight? i 'ust want to address * unfolding tonight? i just want to address something - unfolding tonight? i just want to address something we - unfolding tonight? i just want i to address something we talked about— to address something we talked about a — to address something we talked about a moment ago, no—one has done _ about a moment ago, no—one has done more — about a moment ago, no—one has done more to attempt to facilitate humanity and aryan —— humanitarian aid than president biden. his trip, calling _ president biden. his trip, calling an ambassador from retirement to come to the region. _ retirement to come to the region. a _ retirement to come to the region, a former assistant to the secretary of state, on the ground — the secretary of state, on the ground now trying to build up the flow— ground now trying to build up the flow of aid from the rougher crossing, so the us is incredibly— rougher crossing, so the us is incredibly engaged on this issue. _ incredibly engaged on this issue, there are immense concerns— issue, there are immense concerns about civilian life, frankly, _ concerns about civilian life, frankly, there is a moral imperative to mitigate civilian harm — imperative to mitigate civilian harm and _ imperative to mitigate civilian harm and from the israeli perspective, there is a security— perspective, there is a security imperative to mitigate civilian — security imperative to mitigate civilian harm. if we are thinking _

civilian harm. if we are thinking about counterinsurgency operations, attempting to separate the civilian _ attempting to separate the civilian population from the militants provides some sort of alternative governance whether it be _ alternative governance whether it be the — alternative governance whether it be the israelis or something else, — it be the israelis or something else, this _ it be the israelis or something else, this these are things that— else, this these are things that the _ else, this these are things that the israelis are working through— that the israelis are working through as they plan and prepare and execute these operations are. for prepare and execute these operations are.— operations are. for the palestinians, _ operations are. for the palestinians, faced - operations are. for the | palestinians, faced with operations are. for the - palestinians, faced with what they appear to be facing now, where can they go when of course, in the gaza strip they are fenced in? do you think that other players in the region, egypt for example, should be trying to facilitate, look after palestinians coming to them, or is that also something that palestinians would not want? i something that palestinians would not want?— something that palestinians would not want? ., �* , , would not want? i don't presume to seak would not want? i don't presume to speak to _ would not want? i don't presume to speak to any _ would not want? i don't presume to speak to any palestinians - to speak to any palestinians but egypt has expressed public concerns — but egypt has expressed public concerns about bringing in refugees from gaza us. the concerns _ refugees from gaza us. the concerns they have expressed originally were that there is a fear— originally were that there is a fear that— originally were that there is a fear that israel would not let them — fear that israel would not let them back in and frankly i think— them back in and frankly i think it _ them back in and frankly i think it is _ them back in and frankly i think it is more plausible that they— think it is more plausible that they might be afraid that

gazarrs— they might be afraid that gazans would not want to go back — gazans would not want to go back and _ gazans would not want to go back and according to international law against anti— resettlement, it would be a violation _ resettlement, it would be a violation of international law for the — violation of international law for the egyptians to forcibly send — for the egyptians to forcibly send them back sol for the egyptians to forcibly send them back so i don't think anyone — send them back so i don't think anyone is— send them back so i don't think anyone is particularly interested in establishing refugee camps in the sinai but ultimately finding some way to create — ultimately finding some way to create civilian corridors, save zones, — create civilian corridors, save zones, areas where civilians can — zones, areas where civilians can be — zones, areas where civilians can be treated for health conditions and get access to food, — conditions and get access to food, water, life—saving medicine will be a critical part— medicine will be a critical part of— medicine will be a critical part of this in the israelis are — part of this in the israelis are working through that in conjunction with washington. | conjunction with washington. i want conjunction with washington. want to conjunction with washington. i want to bring a little bit more news now because here in the united states, protesters have gathered inside grand central terminal in new york city on friday night, just hours after israel's announcement of military operations, a jewish activist group held a loud rally inside the busy train station, scores of activists from jewish voice for peace called for a ceasefire and

condemned the thousands of civilian casualties in gaza, put it on social media showing several protesters being detained and of course with me here in the studio for continuing coverage is my panellist, and just to get your reaction to begin with, what we just heard about the gathering inside grand central station from protesters after we heard that announcement from israel about the expansion of operations.— about the expansion of oerations. �*, , , , operations. it's been pretty amazin: operations. it's been pretty amazing i— operations. it's been pretty amazing i think, _ operations. it's been pretty amazing i think, in - operations. it's been pretty amazing i think, in this - amazing i think, in this country, obviously there has always been this connection between the us and israel but how this issue has resonated here, whether it is withjewish americans and the fear they are feeling after these attacks, and the anti—semitism that is changed a lot of these protests, or how people in the united states have found common cause with the palestinians and there are a lot, as the social justice in the united states

has grown, there is also the palestinians you are part and parcel about, and have been a lot of people on the left that's a human rights should also be palestinian rights when you see all this violence and destruction, there is a lot of sympathy for the palestinians right now and one of the problems is people are not seeing the full conflict for itself, one day they are very upset about what happened with israel and this horrible terrorist attack and they are going the next day and saying what about the palestinians, without remembering both of these people right now are suffering, the israelis that suffered the worst attack and we keep saying that it is almost a cliche now but the worst deaths in one day since the holocaust, and now this unprecedented destruction and lives being lost in the palestinian side, we need to remember that these are people, these are notjust numbers, and there is a huge, complex conflict that this is the backdrop for.- conflict that this is the

backdrop for. conflict that this is the backdro for. .«r ., ., backdrop for. taking out to you jonathan. _ backdrop for. taking out to you jonathan. your— backdrop for. taking out to you jonathan, your thoughts - backdrop for. taking out to you jonathan, your thoughts on - backdrop for. taking out to you | jonathan, your thoughts on both what elyse had to say and what we have been witnessing their grand central station, and the conversation here in the united states as well with regards to this conflict. shifa hospital we have seen a change in information operation in military campaigns.— in military campaigns. there is no question — in military campaigns. there is no question that _ in military campaigns. there is no question that hamas - in military campaigns. there is no question that hamas which | no question that hamas which was always effective in information operation can activate _ information operation can activate a new social media to activate — activate a new social media to activate popular opinion in its favour~ — activate popular opinion in its favour. the images are difficult _ favour. the images are difficult also. we have a generation of people who looked at things— generation of people who looked at things in social media and may— at things in social media and may not— at things in social media and may not be aware of the fact that — may not be aware of the fact that images can and are manipulated. you can look critically— manipulated. you can look critically at older generations who say _ critically at older generations who say you are not really getting _ who say you are not really getting the facts either. information is salient here. we

talked — information is salient here. we talked about what israel