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this is bbc news. health workers report shelling near to the al-quds hospital in gaza hours after israel gives an order to evacuate. the palestine red crescent says it has requested urgent clarification this decision affects the lives of 1a,000 people, plus our patients. they are putting us in a corner. we don't really know what to do. israel is continuing with its military operation, moving more tanks and infantry into gaza. jordan's foreign minister warns the world must act now. the un warns civil order may be breaking down in gaza as thousands of residents break in to warehouses for food and other basic items. our other main story... matthew perry, one of the stars of the hit tv show friends, has died.
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he was 5a. hello and welcome. i'm lewis vaughan jones. some breaking news from the white house. a call betweenjoe biden and prime minister netanyahu, we have a readout, as it is called, some details of what was talked about, released by the white house, this has come into us in the last few minutes, i will bring you the first two sentences. the president reiterated that israel has every right and responsibility to defend its citizens from terrorism and underscored the need to do so in a manner consistent with international human terry in law. that prioritised the protection of civilians. the president and prime minister discussed ongoing efforts to locate and secure the release of hostages, to include american citizens who remain unaccounted for and may be held by hamas. the president
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underscored the need to immediately and significantly increase the flow of humanitarian assistance to meet the needs of civilians in gaza. the president and the prime minister agreed to remain in regular consultation both directly and through their respective national security teams. so, a familiar message from the us there. of course one of israel's strongest allies, underscoring their every right and responsibility to defend its citizens from terrorism but also to to do so in a manner consistent with international human terry in law. international agencies have expressed concern about reports of an israeli evacuation order for the al quds hospital in northern gaza. hundreds of patients are receiving treatment at the hospital, with a reported 14,000 gazans sheltering there. both the world health organization and international federation of the red cross have raised deep alarm over the evacuation
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order, saying hospitals in gaza must be protected. these images show smoke billowing from what appears to be an israeli strike nearby. and this footage shows staff and patients struggling to breathe because of smoke inside the hospital. it also shows damage to windows after what the palestinian red crescent described as a very intense bombardment around the hospital, with one rocket falling only metres away. the al-quds hospital is in northern gaza, the focus of the israeli military�*s operation against hamas. in the past half hour, israel's military has reiterated its call for civilians in northern gaza to evacuate to the south. jordan's foreign minister has told the bbc that israel must respect the international rule of law.
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marwanjilani, director—general of the palestine red crescent society, told us his fears about a strike on the al quds hospital. the area around the hospital has been bombed from the hour, intensively, as i said the bombardment has been ongoing until about half an hour ago, and of course, we are worried. these rockets will destroy the hospital and will kill, with 14,000 people inside the hospital, it's going to be a massacre. so, we are afraid. we are horrified by the potential that this could really happen, and we don't know what to do. we are calling upon the international community to put pressure on israel to rescind this order and to respect the medical mission of the palestine red crescent society.
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just want to bring you a roundup of all the latest of elements now, from our correspondent lucy williamson. explosion. with so much in gaza broken, the rules governing daily life are starting to crack. israel says there are no food shortages there. at a un aid warehouse in the centre of gaza, palestinians displaced from their homes further north broke in yesterday to grab whatever food was there. translation: we have no flour,| no aid, no water, not even toilets. our houses were destroyed, no—one cares about us. we appeal to the people of the world, all international powers are against us. we needed aid, we wouldn't have done this if we were not in need. israel says it sent more troops into gaza overnight. its long expected ground offensive gradually expanding. it says its forces were fighting hamas gunmen in the north.
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hamas rockets continue to target towns in israel. gazans describe israel's continued bombardment of their territory as the most intense they have ever seen. israel's leaders and army have a lot to prove and there is growing pressure over the fate of more than 200 hostages in gaza, too. isreal�*s prime minister says this will help get the hostages out. many of the families need convincing. hamas demands for a prisoner swap with palestinians in israeli jails is difficult political territory, but the hostages are a powerful symbol of israel's failure to protect. tal shoham was taken hostage along with six other members of his family including his wife and two children. a neighbour in kibbutz be'eri close to the gaza border said he saw tal being put into the boot of a car
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by hamas gunmen, alive, fully clothed, his hands tied behind his back. the house where the family were staying, gutted but empty. no sign of their bodies. tal�*s father gilad says hope is a dangerous feeling. maybe they don't come back. maybe they come back dead. maybe one comes back dead. i don't know. he says now isn't the time to set limits on what israel can do. we can pay everything, and i want they pay everything. if hamas need, i don't know. i think we need to take out whatever it take. i don't know, i don't care, i want my family back and i want everybody, the civilians, the children, the wife — out. these attacks united israel, but there are growing divisions over
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whether hamas or the hostages should determine israel's response. the government insist that there is no conflict in its priorities and that the destruction in gaza will help bring the hostages home. lucy williamson, bbc news, southern israel. with me now is the israeli ambassador to london, tzipi hotovely. thank you very much for coming on the programme. just in the last few minutes we have got some details of a conversation between presidentjoe biden and prime minister letta, of course, the us, one of israel's yellow strongest allies, and the message that we heard before, that the president reiterating that israel has every right and responsibility to defend its citizens from terrorism and also underscored the need to do so in a manner consistent with international humanitarian law. as the military operation now is clearly intensifying, in phase two, it is a
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real challenge to honour the second part of that sentence, isn't it? hot part of that sentence, isn't it? not at all. part of that sentence, isn't it? not at all- israel— part of that sentence, isn't it? not at all. israel is _ part of that sentence, isn't it? iirrt at all. israel is obligated according to international law when we are fighting terrorists, just like the americans themselves when they were fighting isis, in. in iraq, they know how it works. you need to minimise casualties by any means, and israel is doing that, by calling to evacuate, you just heard the idf spokesperson calling to everyone to evacuate to the south area of gaza, and the second thing is, and i think people should get a little bit of the context because we are three weeks into this war, and i think people forget how it started, in 7th october. israel was peacefully living its life when this unprovoked attack and massacre happened in all our cities, villages and communities. moo israel happened in all our cities, villages and communities. m00 israel is lost their life in the most brutal way can be imagined and we still have 200 and 39 hostages, people that are
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innocent, people that need to be released now, and i don't see any international stress on it, any pressure. it needs to be clear that hamas must release those hostages. some of them are babies and toddlers. so when we speak about humanitarian law, international law, the first and the most basic one is, release hostages back home, because there is no justification to release hostages back home, because there is nojustification to holding a three—year—old, i mean, i go to every night with those images, so, this is a girl that her father was executed when he was holding her trying to protect his daughter, and after he died, her mum was bleeding on the floor when the two children were staying in a cupboard, so those two children are now looking for their sister abigail that is hostage in gaza. we heard from the families of some of those hostages yesterday expressing real concern about the escalation of the military operation being undertaken right now by the
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idf. there are real concerns about the compatibility with the level of escalation of military operation and the safe return of the hostages. do you understand those families' concerns?— you understand those families' concerns? ~ , , ~ , concerns? absolutely, i think every israeli family _ concerns? absolutely, i think every israeli family is _ concerns? absolutely, i think every israeli family is standing _ concerns? absolutely, i think every israeli family is standing with - israeli family is standing with those families, with their demand to release the hostages and i know the prime minister is committed to that and i know the israeli government is committed to that but we need to understand we are dealing with a terror organisation, this is not a humanitarian organisation, this is hamas, the same hamas that is using its own people as human shields, the same humanitarian, i need to expose them i think many people don't know, one of the things that humanitarian did calculatedly on the first day, was making sure that the area is crossed, one of the basic areas that used to deliver goods to the gaza strip, will be totally destroyed in the first day of the operation, so any goods wouldn't be able to come across, also electricity will be shut from gaza... will stick and we
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are not getting goods from the rafah crossing now, aid agency after aid agency are calling for israel to get more aid, it is sitting in trucks there ready to go in. what i am trying to say here is that hamas calculated to cause a humanitarian crisis in gaza because it was serving its own propaganda against israel. this psychological terror, this is what we are going through, the hostages are part of it and the fact that they are abusing their own citizens in gaza, this is part of the psychological warfare and this is what we need to understand, mass is what we need to understand, mass is using western media including bbc, including cnn, in orderforyou to show all those images, the throwing numbers have nothing behind, they cannot be proved or they cannot be verified by anyone because no—one has the access to check, and this is the responsibility of the international media actually not to take hamas information as credible. and this is the time for you to understand hamas is in charge of any humanitarian crisis which is happening in gaza. you brought up aid, i want to talk
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about it, the rafah crossing, hundreds of trucks of aid used to come into gaza, now we are getting ten also a day, aid agency after aid agency is saying not enough is getting through. you have a responsibility towards civilians in a war zone, why can't you get more aid in? ., , , ., ., aid in? two things, first of all israel said — aid in? two things, first of all israel said from _ aid in? two things, first of all israel said from the _ aid in? two things, first of all israel said from the very - aid in? two things, first of all - israel said from the very beginning, we are going to supply water and food and medicine. unfortunately, there wasn't equivalent humanitarian needs to our hostages. red cross didn't come to see them. we don't know what their condition is, and they are not getting medicine and some of them are elderly people or people that need medication so i would like to demand here that if you are asking for humanitarian aid to the gaza people, you need to demand the same level and pressure hamas to say, there are 239 innocent israeli people, you need to give them the access to all the humanitarian needs they need. just to be completely clear, not to be left with an incorrect position, so, until you get an assurance that the
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hostages are getting the aid, you are withholding aid but because we didn't condition, what i am trying to say, israel is actually doing beyond what israel is receiving to its own people. israel is delivering this humanitarian aid which, by the way, hamas still has... it is only ten trucks a day, the need is significantly more than that according to aid agency after aid agency. figs according to aid agency after aid auen . �* , according to aid agency after aid aien . �* , ~' according to aid agency after aid aen . �*, agency. as i said, think about the fact that hamas, _ agency. as i said, think about the fact that hamas, with _ agency. as i said, think about the fact that hamas, with all - agency. as i said, think about the fact that hamas, with all its - fact that hamas, with all its military machine, hiding underneath shifa hospital, building his headquarters in the shifa hospital, using the electricity of poor people who need medical supply, and they are using it to make sure their terror machine will keep on working because as we speak, over 6000 rockets being fired on israeli cities and people are being hurt. and what i am trying to say, hamas has enough of and fuel to get its military machine to work but it is not thinking about the population. so, hamas has responsibility as well, you cannotjust ask israel to
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do that and to feed the enemy while hamas couldn't care less about its own people. fin hamas couldn't care less about its own maple-— own people. on a point of clarification _ own people. on a point of clarification about - own people. on a point of clarification about the - own people. on a point of- clarification about the hospitals, we are trying to establish, al-quds is a hospital, there are claims that it received an evacuation order, and clearly if a hospital with ill patients as the world health organization pointed out cannot be done without endangering the lives of those patients, do you have any information about whether there has been a specific evacuation order given to that hospital? i been a specific evacuation order given to that hospital?- been a specific evacuation order given to that hospital? i would like to sa that given to that hospital? i would like to say that our _ given to that hospital? i would like to say that our very, _ given to that hospital? i would like to say that our very, very - given to that hospital? i would like to say that our very, very clear- to say that our very, very clear message to all people in the northern area of gaza is evacuate. this is part of actually... northern area of gaza is evacuate. this is part of actually. . ._ this is part of actually... even if that is patients _ this is part of actually... even if that is patients and _ this is part of actually. .. even if that is patients and their- this is part of actually... even if that is patients and their lives i this is part of actually... even if. that is patients and their lives are endangered by moving? let that is patients and their lives are endangered by moving?— that is patients and their lives are endangered by moving? let me tell ou endangered by moving? let me tell you something. _ endangered by moving? let me tell you something, the _ endangered by moving? let me tell you something, the ashkelon - endangered by moving? let me tell. you something, the ashkelon hospital was attacked by hamas rocket in the very first day of the war and they were trying to hurt innocent people deliberately so we are trying to avoid that and we really try to minimise civilian casualties but you need to understand while this hamas brutality is against its own people ljy brutality is against its own people by locating and invading themselves
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in schools, hospitals, the international community needs to understand that this is part of fighting terror organisation and we are trying to minimise casualties by calling them to evacuate.— calling them to evacuate. evacuate to the south. _ calling them to evacuate. evacuate to the south, the _ calling them to evacuate. evacuate to the south, the south _ calling them to evacuate. evacuate to the south, the south is - calling them to evacuate. evacuate to the south, the south is also - to the south, the south is also being bombed?— to the south, the south is also being bombed? actually i checked that with our _ being bombed? actually i checked that with our idf _ being bombed? actually i checked that with our idf spokesperson . being bombed? actually i checked| that with our idf spokesperson and being bombed? actually i checked i that with our idf spokesperson and i can say clearly, the northern area is at the moment the main area of the war, we are not targeting civilians in the south, the only thing being targeted in the south is military targets. so it is very clear that israel is not targeting civilians, israel isjust clear that israel is not targeting civilians, israel is just targeting the military machine of hamas and i am going back again, why are we doing all this? think about sixth october, everyone was peace and quiet in israel, it is not like the israeli government woke up one morning and decided to attack people in gaza. the reason we did that is because our people, our children, our women, were not safe, they were raped and slaughtered by hamas terrorists walking and crossing the border after all those years that israel made sure that this will be a
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peaceful border, we tried to do our best to make sure people can work in israel, but you know they with terrorism. this is now we need to... the international support that you received from your allies after 7th october was clear, unequivocal support. is there a worry in the israeli government that the more civilians that will die, inevitably, in this kind of warfare, we have had military analysts on, completely independent, on a matter of strategy, and this kind of warfare, a lot of civilians can be killed in this kind of operation, are you worried that your international allies, who have been steadfast in their support for your right to take action, will lose some of that support as the civilian casualty numbers increase?— support as the civilian casualty numbers increase? well, obviously, we coordinate _ numbers increase? well, obviously, we coordinate closely _ numbers increase? well, obviously, we coordinate closely with _ numbers increase? well, obviously, we coordinate closely with all- numbers increase? well, obviously, we coordinate closely with all our. we coordinate closely with all our allies. i am the ambassador here in london and i must say the uk government gives 100% support to israel's right to self—defence and they understand how dangerous hamas
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is. they understand no country in the world can live with isis on its doorstep, so, we need to make sure that we dismantle hamas capabilities and the day after we finish this war, mass won't have either the ability or the leadership to carry on itsjihadi ideology. so i can say that the uk stands behind us, the us stands behind us, many leaders in europe stand behind us and i really believe they will keep on supporting us. , , . believe they will keep on supporting us, g , ., ., ., ., ., " us. just a final thought looking forward now— us. just a final thought looking forward now because - us. just a final thought looking forward now because part - us. just a final thought looking forward now because part of. us. just a final thought looking l forward now because part of the us. just a final thought looking - forward now because part of the uk position has been calling for humanitarian aid to flow, it is not flowing right now, there have been calls for a ceasefire, because for a humanitarian pause, in your knowledge, is there any sense that there will be any kind of pause to try and get a in or this flow of aid actually getting in? i try and get a in or this flow of aid actually getting in?— try and get a in or this flow of aid actually getting in? i know we are not auoin actually getting in? i know we are not going to _ actually getting in? i know we are not going to prevent _ actually getting in? i know we are not going to prevent any - not going to prevent any humanitarian aid to flow into the gaza strip but we need to make sure that this humanitarian aid is specific, water, food, medicine, we are not going to supply fuel to
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hamas war machine, and we know at the moment there is half a million litres that hamas is keeping just to keep its underground city of terror to keep on going, to make sure his underground city of there underneath the shifa hospital will keep on going, it's headquarters, so we need to make sure this massive abilities, backed up with this fuel, won't carry on to have supplies from the international community. irate carry on to have supplies from the international community. we must leave it there, _ international community. we must leave it there, ambassador, - international community. we must leave it there, ambassador, thank| leave it there, ambassador, thank you very much. doctors and the palestinian red crescent in gaza say israel has told them to evacuate a key hospital in gaza city. the organisation says there are four hundred patients being treated inside al-quds hospital and that moving them is impossible. the hospital's director says around fourteen thousand civilians are also m,000 civilians are also sheltering in the area around the hospital. our gaza correspondent rusdhi abualouf sent us this update on what he knows about the situation
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in gaza city. it's quieter in khan yunis compared with previous days but in gaza, al-quds hospital, run by the palestinian icrc, is making headlines night as isrtael is pushing hard to the hospital. hundreds of air strikes in the last couple of days but today they are very close, damaging some of the hospital properties. we received a video from one of the people trapped inside the hospital showing huge smoke inside and dust inside the hospital. the medical team are distributing masks to the people as about 1,400 people — m,000 people, according to the director of the hospital, are taking the hospital as refuge because earlier footage show the scale of destruction around the hospital is huge, but now they are pushing hard to the hospital, damaging some of their properties, but it's still not direct hits on al-quds hospital, only very close to it.
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live now to yousef munayyer who is head of the palestine—israel program at the arab center for research and policy studies in washington dc. president biden and benjamin netanyahu talking on the phone again, obviously very strong allies, and the message seems to have been getting in from president biden absolute support for the military action, as long as it is in line with international law. what do you make of that twin message? weill. with international law. what do you make of that twin message? well, i think it is quite _ make of that twin message? well, i think it is quite disingenuous. - make of that twin message? well, i think it is quite disingenuous. it - think it is quite disingenuous. it is plain to anybody who has eyes and can see what's happening in gaza that the way this is being conducted is nowhere in line with international law. anyone who has ears and can hear the statements made by israeli leaders understand
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that this is not in line with international law. the first thing that they announced in their response was cutting off fuel and water and electricity to 2.2 million residents in gaza. this is collective punishment which is not in line with international law, and a clear violation of the fourth geneva conventions. and the rate of killing that we're seeing, particularly the killing of civilians on the ground, cannot in anyway be considered in line with international law. the anyway be considered in line with international law.— international law. the israeli ambassador _ international law. the israeli ambassador that _ international law. the israeli ambassador that i _ international law. the israeli ambassador that i just - international law. the israeli j ambassador that i just spoke international law. the israeli i ambassador that i just spoke to international law. the israeli - ambassador that i just spoke to in ambassador that ijust spoke to in the studio said they were conducting their operations within international law and they weren't under obligations to supply their enemy? i under obligations to supply their enem ? ., �* , . , ., enemy? i don't expect the israeli ambassador _ enemy? i don't expect the israeli ambassador to _ enemy? i don't expect the israeli ambassador to come _ enemy? i don't expect the israeli ambassador to come on - enemy? i don't expect the israeli ambassador to come on the - enemy? i don't expect the israeli ambassador to come on the bbcl enemy? i don't expect the israeli . ambassador to come on the bbc and say yes, we are engaging in war crimes. i expect that the journalist would push back with the facts that are observable and ask them how they
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can justify the war crimes that they are committing. we are seeing this taking place. 3000 children have been killed already. in these bombardments. civilian infrastructure is constantly being targeted. hospitals, aid workers. international law no longer has any meaning. and anyone who purports to support this and speak of international law at the same time cannot be taken seriously. and i have to say, the biggest divide that we're seeing in the world today is not the divide between good and evil that has been characterised by some of the leaders in the united kingdom and the united states and elsewhere in the west, but really a divide between governments and people who are outraged over what they are seeing take place in gaza on the one hand and out on the streets in london, in the united states and all over the world demanding a ceasefire. on one side, and leaders who are speaking out of one side of their mouth about international law
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while fully supporting mass atrocities taking place in the gaza strip. this has to come to an end and if there is ever going to be any credibility in the statements of western leaders, they cannot continue to support this because the entire world is seeing what is taking place. entire world is seeing what is taking place-— entire world is seeing what is takin: lace. . ., . taking place. when hamas launched those attacks _ taking place. when hamas launched those attacks on _ taking place. when hamas launched those attacks on 7th _ taking place. when hamas launched those attacks on 7th october- taking place. when hamas launched those attacks on 7th october and . those attacks on 7th october and killed m00 israelis, mainly civilians, countries lined up with israel to support their ability to defend themselves. this is what they're doing. defend themselves. this is what they're doing-— defend themselves. this is what they're doing. there's 130 children in incubators _ they're doing. there's 130 children in incubators today _ they're doing. there's 130 children in incubators today in _ they're doing. there's130 children in incubators today in the - they're doing. there's130 children in incubators today in the gaza - in incubators today in the gaza strip that were not alive on 7th october. they are going to die because of the policies that were announced by the israeli government. this is a war crime and is unjustifiable. and no matter what happened on 7th october, and by the way history did not start then, the
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innocent people in gaza who are being destroyed by israeli bombardments supported by the united states and by the united kingdom and other western allies, had nothing to do with it. this is precisely why international law exists. this is precisely why the laws of war exist, to protect innocents in times of war. and they are being utterly discarded by the kind of leaders who say that they are leading the free world and care about a rules—based order. if international law does not exist in moments like this, it's worthless. exist in moments like this, it's worthless-— exist in moments like this, it's worthless. �* , . ., worthless. and cu very much for cominu worthless. and cu very much for coming on _ worthless. and cu very much for coming on the — worthless. and cu very much for coming on the programme. -- l worthless. and cu very much for - coming on the programme. -- thank coming on the programme. —— thank you very much. we can take you now to the live pictures of the gaza skyline this evening, dark, clearly because of the time in the evening, but also because of the limits to power and electricity in gaza. stay with us, plenty more coverage to come, i am with us, plenty more coverage to come, iam lewis with us, plenty more coverage to come, i am lewis vaughanjones, with us, plenty more coverage to come, iam lewis vaughanjones, this is bbc news.
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hello. rain has dominated the weather story over the last couple of weeks and there is more unwanted rain to come through the week ahead. but also of concern, the risk of damaging winds, particularly through wednesday night and thursday, as i'll show you in a moment. in the shorter term, still some outbreaks of rain, certainly some showers as we go through tonight, some clear spells as well. temperatures maybe dropping to three degrees in the highlands, 11 there in the south—west of england, but low pressure still very much in charge of our weather as we head into monday morning. this low will be weakening somewhat, so it won't be as windy on monday, but there will still be some showers. some really hefty showers actually across parts of northern ireland, the isle of man and some scattered showers across england and wales. some of these still heavy, thundery, still with the potential to bring some localised flooding
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and disruption, some sunny spells in between. scotland having a much drier day, just the odd shower, but most places will be fine and temperatures north to south, 8 to 15 degrees. into tuesday, more showers in the forecast. a band of showers likely to be pushing northwards and eastwards across northern ireland, parts of england and wales. scotland again largely dry. south—west england later in the day will see a band of heavy thundery rain, our next frontal system, and that will drive its way northwards and eastwards during tuesday night and into wednesday. very heavy rain for the middle part of the week. some snow for a time over high ground in northern scotland, also turning quite windy for coasts of wales, south—west england and in the north of scotland. those temperatures again, 8—15 degrees. and then we have a deep area of low pressure that is expected to approach our shores on thursday. this has been named storm ciaran by the met office. the exact track of this low may change a little bit
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between now and then, so it is worth staying in touch with the forecast as we firm up on the details. certainly, though, it looks like many of us will see some very heavy rain. and down towards the south of england and south wales, there's the chance for inland spots to see gusts of up to 60mph. but if this forecast comes off as is currently expected, we could see gusts of 80—90mph for exposed coasts in the south. that would bring damage and significant disruption, there will also be a lot of rain.
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unrwa this is bbc news. unrwa the headlines: health workers report shelling near to the al quds hospital, in gaza, hours after israel gives an order to evacuate. the palestinian red crescent says it's requested urgent clarification. israel is continuing with its military operation, moving more tanks and infantry into gaza. the un warns civil order may be breaking down in gaza as thousands of residents break in to warehouses for food and other basic items. our other main story — matthew perry, one of the stars of the hit tv show friends, has died. he was sit. now on bbc news, it's sportsday.
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