tv BBC News BBC News October 29, 2023 8:00pm-9:01pm GMT
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health workers report shelling near to the al quds hospital in gaza, hours after israel gives an order to evacuate. the palestinian red crescent says it's requested urgent clarification this decision affects the lives of 1a,000 people, plus our patients. and it's really, they are putting us in a corner. we don't really know what to do. israel is continuing with its military operation, moving more tanks and infantry into gaza. jordan's foreign minister warns the world must act now. if we allow this war to continue, then not only have we failed our international standards, but we've failed the right of all our peoples to live in peace. and i think all of us need to take a deep pause and say that we all have failed the palestinian people, the israeli people.
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the un warns civil order may be breaking down in gaza, as thousands of residents break into warehouses for food and other basic items. our other main story: matthew perry, one of the stars of the hit tv show friends has died. he was 5a. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. international agencies have expressed concern about reports of an israeli evacuation order for a key hospital in northern gaza. they've warned that evacuating the site is impossible. it's treating hundreds of people, some of whom are chronically ill. around 14,000 gazans are also reported to be sheltering there. both the world health organization and international federation of the red cross have raised deep alarm over the order, saying hospitals must be protected. there are unconfirmed reports of air strikes about 20 metres from the al-quds facility.
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these images show smoke billowing from what appears to be a strike nearby. and this footage shows staff and patients struggling to breathe because of smoke inside the hospital. it also shows damage to windows, after what the palestinian red crescent described as a "very intense bombardment around the hospital", with one rocket falling — quote — "only metres away". the al quds hospital is in northern gaza, the focus of the israeli military�*s operation against hamas. israel's military has reiterated its call for civilians in northern gaza to evacuate to the south. jordan's foreign minister has told the bbc that israel must respect the international rule of law. marwanjilani, director general of the palestine red crescent society, told us his fears about a strike on the al-quds hospital. the area around the hospital has been bombed from the air, intensively.
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as i said, the bombardment has been ongoing until about half an hour ago. and of course, we are worried, you know. these rockets will destroy the hospital and will kill, with 14,000 people inside the hospital, it's going to be a massacre. so we are afraid. we are horrified by the potential that this could really happen. and we don't know what to do. we are calling upon the international community to put pressure on israel to rescind this order and to respect the medical mission of the palestine red crescent society. a little earlier, the israeli army spokesperson gave a press conference calling on people in the north of gaza to evacuate. take a listen. translation: they are continuing to assess the situation _ and expanding things gradually, based on our plans, in order to achieve the objectives of this war.
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the ground force is, the ground campaign is extremely complex. we will do everything possible — from the sea, air and from the ground — in order to ensure that our troops will be safe. we are calling upon the northern gazans to evacuate temporarily to the south, for your own safety. and we are stressing that. we are calling upon you urgently to do so. just below the gazan river, the conditions will be so much better. there is water, food and medication there. let me show you the latest pictures — from the israel defense forces — of their ongoing ground offensive in gaza, what they describe as the "second stage" of the war. the idf say they've hit a50 military targets belonging to hamas, designated a terrorist organisation by many western governments.
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it's in retaliation for the 1,400 israelis killed in hamas raids on southern israel on october 7th. an israeli military spokesman has put the number of people held hostage in gaza at 239, higher than previously. previously thought. the united nations' relief agency for palestinians — unwra — is warning that civil order is starting to collapse in gaza, after three weeks of israeli bombardment. warehouses containing flour and other basic supplies have been ransacked by thousands of people. this is the scene live in gaza. the skyline is in blackness, it is the live feed coming in to the bbc that we have been monitoring since pretty much the october the seven. we have been seeing occasional activity. but from this angle at
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least, it is quieter than the last couple of evenings. hamas health officials say more than 8,000 people have now been killed since israel launched its offensive. 0urfirst report — from lucy williamson — contains images you may find distressing. explosion with so much in gaza broken, the rules governing daily life are starting to crack. israel says there are no food shortages there. at a un aid warehouse in the centre of gaza, palestinians displaced from their homes further north broke in yesterday to grab whatever food was there. translation: we have no flour,| no aid, no water, not even toilets. our houses were destroyed, no—one cares about us. we appeal to the people of the world, all international powers are against us.
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we needed aid, we wouldn't have done this if we weren't in need. israel says it sent more troops into gaza overnight. its long—expected ground offensive gradually expanding. it says its forces were fighting hamas gunmen in the north. hamas rockets continue to target towns in israel. gazans describe israel's continued bombardment of their territory as the most intense they've ever seen. israel's leaders and army have a lot to prove, and there is growing pressure over the fate of more than 200 hostages in gaza, too. isreal�*s prime minister says this will help get the hostages out. many of the families need convincing. hamas demands for a prisoner swap with palestinians in israeli jails is difficult political territory, but the hostages are a powerful symbol of israel's failure to protect.
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tal shoham was taken hostage, along with six other members of his family, including his wife adi and two children, nehel and yehel. a neighbour in kibbutz be'eri, close to the gaza border, said he saw tal being put into the boot of a car by hamas gunmen — alive, fully clothed, his hands tied behind his back. the house where the family were staying — gutted, but empty. no sign of their bodies. tal�*s father gilad says hope is a dangerous feeling. maybe they don't come back. maybe they come back dead. maybe one come back dead. i don't know. he says now isn't the time to set limits on what israel can do. we can pay everything, and i want they pay everything. if hamas need, i don't know.
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i think we need to take out whatever it take. i don't know, i don't care. i want my family back and i want everybody, the civilians, the children, the wife — out. these attacks united israel, but there are growing divisions over whether hamas or the hostages should determine israel's response. the government insist there is no conflict in its priorities and that the destruction in gaza will help bring the hostages home. lucy williamson, bbc news, southern israel. live now to ian bremmer, a political scientist and president and founder of the political risk consulting firm eurasia group. thank you very much for coming on the programme. thank you very much for coming on the programme-— thank you very much for coming on the programme. sure, my pleasure. so let's take a look _ the programme. sure, my pleasure. so let's take a look at _ the programme. sure, my pleasure. so let's take a look at what _ the programme. sure, my pleasure. so let's take a look at what has _ the programme. sure, my pleasure. so let's take a look at what has been - let's take a look at what has been called now phase two of this military operation, what is your assessment of it so far?- military operation, what is your assessment of it so far? well, my understanding _ assessment of it so far? well, my understanding from _ assessment of it so far? well, my understanding from talking - assessment of it so far? well, my understanding from talking to - assessment of it so far? well, my understanding from talking to us| understanding from talking to us
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officials and others that are engaging with israel is that this decision has been made not strategically, but emotionally. and i understand that because the leaders are dealing with unprecedented terrorist violence thatis unprecedented terrorist violence that is affecting literally all of them in the most personal ways. they have 360,000 people that have been called up to fight in the war, that is 4% of the entire territory. and they are also dealing with air—raid sirens literally day in and day out. so i get it, but i think that the impact that this is going to have on israel for its own national security long—term is incredibly dangerous. it is the wrong move. but i think the likelihood that this war expands beyond gaza is virtually a certainty at this point. it is going to be very, very hard now that you have a ground war going on for a long time
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to prevent violence from spreading much more broadly across the region. well, given everything you have just said, there have been repeated calls by president biden said again to benjamin netanyahu this evening, the right of israel to defend itself. but to do so within the bounds of humanitarian law. how challenging do you think that is?— you think that is? well, i think that israel— you think that is? well, i think that israel absolutely - you think that is? well, i think that israel absolutely has - you think that is? well, i think that israel absolutely has a - you think that is? well, i think i that israel absolutely has a right to defend itself. by the way, they had that right before october the 7th. notjust now. and their prime minister bibi netanyahu failed. he was the one that had strengthened hamas, at the expense of the palestinian authority, over the past years, precisely because he thought that was the best way to avoid having to move towards a two—state solution. i'm surprised more people don't talk about that, the strong
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majority of israelis blame netanyahu for the failure that occurred on october seven. for the failure that occurred on octoberseven. knew for the failure that occurred on october seven. knew that hamas was a terrorist organisation for a very long time and, yes, i absolutely want them destroyed, i certainly want them destroyed, i certainly want their leadership destroyed. but what was really shocking on october the 7th was the fact that israeli border security and intelligence was asleep at the switch. and that is the responsibility for a prime minister that is still in place today and needs to be a more active part of this conversation.— part of this conversation. thank you ve much part of this conversation. thank you very much for— part of this conversation. thank you very much for coming _ part of this conversation. thank you very much for coming on _ part of this conversation. thank you very much for coming on the - very much for coming on the programme, thank you. my very much for coming on the programme, thank you. i wasjoined earlier by tzipi hotovely, who is the israeli ambassador to london. i asked her about israel's military operation and the calls by the idf to evacuate a key hospital in gaza city. when we're fighting terrorists,
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just like the americans themselves when they were fighting isis in mosul in iraq, they know how it works. you need to minimise casualties by any means, and israel is doing that, by calling to evacuate. you just heard the idf spokesperson calling for everyone to evacuate to the south area of gaza. and the second thing is, and i think this is what people should get a little bit of the context, because we are three weeks into this war and i think people forget how it started in october the 7th. israel was peacefully living its life when this unprovoked attack and massacre happened in all our cities, villages and communities. 1,400 israelis lost their life in the most brutal way can be imagined, and we still have 239 hostages, people that are innocent, people that need to be released now, and i don't see any international stress on it, any pressure. it needs to be clear that hamas must release those hostages. some of them are babies and toddlers. so when we speak about humanitarian law, when we speak about international law, the first and the most basic one is,
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release hostages back home, because there is no justification to holding a three—year—old abigail. i mean, i go to sleep every night with those images. so this is a girl that her father was executed when he was holding her, trying to protect his daughter. and after he died, her mum was bleeding on the floor when the two children were staying in a cupboard. so those two children are now looking for their sister, abigail, that is hostage, kept hostage in gaza. we heard from the families of some of those hostages yesterday expressing real concern about the escalation of the military operation being undertaken right now by the idf. now, there are real concerns about the compatibility with the level of escalation of military operation and the safe return of the hostages. do you understand those families' concerns? absolutely, i think... i think every israeli family is standing with those families,
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with their demand to release the hostages. and i know the prime minister is committed to that. i know the israeli government is committed to that. but we need to understand we are dealing with a terror organisation. this is not a humanitarian organisation. this is hamas. this is the same hamas that is using its own people as human shields. this is the same hamas... by the way, i need to expose something i think many people maybe don't know. one of the things that hamas did calculatedly on the first day, it was making sure that the areas crossed — one of the basic areas that used to deliver goods to the gaza strip — will be totally destroyed in the first day of the operation, so any goods wouldn't be able to come across. also, electricity will be shattered in gaza. well, we're not getting goods across from rafah, the rafah crossing now. aid agency after aid agency are calling for israel to get more aid. it is sitting in trucks there, ready to go in. what i'm trying to say here is that hamas calculatingly was trying to create a humanitarian crisis in gaza because it was serving its own propaganda against israel. this psychological terror,
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this is what we're going through. the hostages are part of it, and the fact they're abusing their own citizens in gaza, this is part of the psychological warfare. and this is why we need to understand, hamas is using western media — including bbc, including cnn — in orderfor you to show all those images. they're throwing numbers, have nothing behind, they cannot be, you know, proved, or they cannot be verified by anyone because no—one has the access to check. and this is the responsibility of the international media, actually, not to take hamas information as credible. and this is the time for you to understand, hamas is in charge of any humanitarian crisis taking a quick pause now. now it's time for a look at today's sport with lizzie greenwood—hughes.
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leon's team bus was stoned as it entered the velodrome. the manager was injured during the incident. the match was scheduled for 7:45pm. the clubs are archrivals in french football. in the premier league, it's been a difficult afternoon for the red half of manchester after manchester city comfortably beat their rivals united. erling haaland scored twice for city at old trafford. his first — a penalty then his second a header just after the break. phil foden scored their third. before the game, there were poignant scenes as supporters from both sides of the city paid tribute to the late sir bobby charlton. against arrival at old trafford, of course. but i had a feeling that it is part of the season that we are played better in this part of the season. so, yes, we are here, so coming to old trafford and all the time we were here, we performed well. last season, we lost mid—this season, with won, so good. i
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well. last season, we lost mid-this season, with won, so good.- season, with won, so good. i think first half, we _ season, with won, so good. i think first half, we played _ season, with won, so good. i think first half, we played very - season, with won, so good. i think first half, we played very good, . season, with won, so good. i think first half, we played very good, so | first half, we played very good, so we defended very well, we had good brakes, _ we defended very well, we had good brakes, good opportunities, maybe we could have _ brakes, good opportunities, maybe we could have taken more benefit from it, could have taken more benefit from it. but _ could have taken more benefit from it. but i_ could have taken more benefit from it, but i think still, we did. and i think_ it, but i think still, we did. and i think the — it, but i think still, we did. and i think the penalty changes the game. then we _ think the penalty changes the game. then we had to react in the second half to— then we had to react in the second half to go— then we had to react in the second half to go more offensive and from their own. — half to go more offensive and from their own, they take benefit from us. meanwhile, at anfield, liverpool's players showed their support for their team mate luis diaz whose parents had been kidnapped in colombia. diaz clealy didn't play, but liverpool were dominant against nottingham forest, beating them 3—nil. goals from diogojota, darwin nunez and mo salah. he was with us in the hotel and then he just went home. i think it's a very harsh situation. i don't know if anyone knows how we react if it happens to us. it's hard to think about it. and i played instead of him,
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and ijust remembered if we scored... it is to show i am with him and hopefully, things work out well in the end. in the day's other matches, everton beat west ham i—0. there was another good win from aston villa who beat luton. while brighton and fulham drew on the south coast. in the scottish premiership, rangers made the most of leaders celtic dropping points yesterday with a very late 2—i win over hearts to close the gap on celtic to five points. both rangers' goals were in injury time. earlier, kilmarnock beat aberdeen 2—nil. now to the cricket world cup, where defending champions england have been beaten again — this time, by hosts india who are flying at the high top of the table with 6 wins from 6. it could have been very different in lucknow though, after england restricted india to a modest 229 for 9 in their 50 overs. captain rohit sharma top—scoring on 87, while his predecessor kohli was out for a duck. but in reply, england's batting was another huge disappointment,
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neither root or stokes got a run between them, and they were bowled out forjust 129, with a third of their overs left to play. so india have all but secured a semi—final place, while bottom side england need a miracle. me as a bowler probably thought we had to pick an early wicket to be in the game and certainly... and after they were four down for a0 runs, we tried to bowl imperfect areas and make them make a mistake. that was a plan as a bowler, as a spinner, and definitely when you lose early wickets, you are always behind the game. and don't forget you can follow all the fi action from the mexico grand prix on the bbc sport website.... but that's all the sport from me, for now. there is very little medication for
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those who need it in gaza. our special correspondent fergal keane is injerusalem and he has been speaking to some of those trapped in gaza. in the bombed districts of gaza... shouting and screaming ..it seems as if the world is broken. a trauma shared across generations. woman cries "my daughter, my daughter," a voice calls out. children caught in an escalating war. the israelis say they're targeting hamas, the killers of their citizens. explosion in these densely—packed areas,
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civilian casualties are mounting. "i was about to do my afternoon prayers," he says, "and suddenly, the missile fell on our house." men shout they've known war before, but nothing like this. who lives, who dies — a matter of chance. and their stories only reach us through the courage of a few. hello, mahmoud, how are you? mahmoud bassam is one of the journalists inside gaza reporting the tragedy for the bbc. his images, a daily record of a people's agony. he said that as hard as things are and as much as he tried to deliver the message he's trying to deliver, sometimes from behind the camera, he would stand and cry
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and the only thing that he would do is just being silent. more than i.a million people have fled their homes. such shelter as they can find is rudimentary. access to the basic essentials of life, severely restricted. translation: we've reached a state where we wish we'd i died under the rubble, just to find some rest. our life is torture. we wait in line for three hours to use the toilet. can a child like this wait for three hours for a turn to go to the toilet? can a child wait for bread? it's catastrophic. the questions accumulate. the war offers only pain in reply. fergal keane, bbc news, jerusalem.
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our correspondent rusdhi abualouf sent us this update on what he knows about the situation in gaza city. yeah, it's quieter in khan younis compared with previous days, but in gaza, al-quds hospital — run by the palestinian icrc — is making headlines night. as israel is pushing hard to the hospital, hundreds of air strikes in the last couple of days but, today, they are very close, damaging some of the hospital properties. we received a video from one of the people trapped inside the hospital showing huge smoke inside and dust inside the hospital. the medical team are distributing masks to the people as about i,a00 people — ia,000 people, according to the director of the hospital, are taking the hospital as refuge. because earlier, footage showed the scale of destruction around the hospital is huge, but now they are pushing
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hard to the hospital, damaging some of their properties, but it's still not direct on al-quds hospital, only very close to it. these are the live feeds we are monitoring at the bbc. this is the shot out over towards gaza. from southern israel. we have been keeping a cross that every night as the blackness falls. we are responding to the idf statement in the last couple of hours again asking people in northern gaza to move south for their safety. but there is a hospital, al-quds hospital, in the north, and they are seeking clarification on evacuation orders because of the risks to patients of moving. stay with us, this is bbc news.
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hello. rain has dominated the weather story over the last couple of weeks and there is more unwanted rain to come through the week ahead. but also of concern, the risk of damaging winds, particularly through wednesday night and thursday, as i'll show you in a moment. in the shorter term, still some outbreaks of rain, certainly some showers as we go through tonight, some clear spells as well. temperatures maybe dropping to three degrees in the highlands, 11 there in the south—west of england, but low pressure still very much in charge of our weather as we head into monday morning. this low will be weakening somewhat, so it won't be as windy on monday, but there will still be some showers. some really hefty showers actually across parts of northern ireland, the isle of man and some scattered showers across england and wales. some of these still heavy, thundery, still with the potential to bring some localised flooding and disruption, some sunny spells in—between. scotland having a much drier day, just the odd shower, but most places will be fine,
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and temperatures north to south, 8 to 15 degrees. into tuesday, more showers in the forecast. a band of showers likely to be pushing northwards and eastwards across northern ireland, parts of england and wales. scotland, again, largely dry. south—west england later in the day will see a band of heavy thundery rain, our next frontal system, and that will drive its way northwards and eastwards during tuesday night and into wednesday. very heavy rain for the middle part of the week. some snow for a time over high ground in northern scotland, also turning quite windy for coasts of wales, south—west england and in the north of scotland. those temperatures again, 8—15 degrees. and then we have a deep area of low pressure that is expected to approach our shores on thursday. this has been named storm ciaran by the met office. the exact track of this low may change a little bit between now and then, so it is worth staying in touch with the forecast as we firm up on the details. certainly, though, it looks like many of us will see some very heavy rain.
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and down towards the south of england and south wales, there's the chance for inland spots to see gusts of up to 60mph. but if this forecast comes off as is currently expected, we could see gusts of 80—90mph for exposed coasts in the south. that would bring damage and significant disruption, there will also be a lot of rain.
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this is bbc news, the headlines. health workers report shelling near to the al quds hospital in gaza — hours after israel gives an order to evacuate. the palestinian red crescent says it's requested urgent clarification. this decision affects the lives of ia,000 people, plus our patients. and it's really, they are putting us in a corner. we don't really know what to do. israel is continuing with its military operation — moving more tanks and infantry into gaza. jordan's foreign minister warns the world must act now. our other main story — matthew perry — one of the stars of the hit tv show friends — has died. he was 5a. welcome back — you're watching bbc news, i'm lewis vaughanjones... more now on the situation in the gaza strip, where the united nations' relief agency for palestinians has warned that civil order is starting to collapse.
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unwra says thousands of people have ransacked warehouses containing basic supplies. it comes as the world health organization says it is deeply concerned about reports of israel ordering the evacuation of the al-quds hospital in northern gaza. the head of the who said it was impossible to evacuate hospitals without endangering lives. israel says egypt and the united states are expanding humanitarian aid into gaza. ten trucks have been allowed in from egypt today. but cairo says hundreds more are being held up by israeli checks. the un secretary—general antonio guterres has said the situation in gaza is growing more desperate by the hour. he's been speaking to the press on his arrival in kathmandu, the capital of nepal. i havejust arrived here from qatar, and i will continue to insist on the immediate and unconditional
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release of all the hostages in gaza. and i repeat my utter condemnation of the appalling attacks perpetrated by hamas. there is no justification ever for the killing, injuring and abduction of civilians. the situation in gaza is growing more desperate by the hour. i regret that instead of a critically needed humanitarian pause supported by the international community, israel has intensified its military operations. the number of civilians who have been killed and injured is totally u na cce pta ble. all parties must respect their obligations under international humanitarian law. that law emerged from the tragedy and awful experiences of war. i've always been consistent in my call for strict compliance of the well—established principles and rule of international humanitarian law.
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the protection of civilians is paramount as the laws of war establish clear rules to protect human life and respect humanitarian concerns. those laws cannot be contorted for the sake of expedience. we've been hearing that president biden has spoken with israeli's leader benjamin netanyahu about developments in gaza. the president reiterated that israel has every right and responsibility to defend its citizens, but underscored the need to do so in a manner consistent with international humanitarian law. yousef munayyer who is head of the palestine/israel programme at the arab center for research and policy studies in washington dc. he gave me his reaction to the american leaders comments. well, i think it's quite disingenuous.
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it's plain to anybody who has eyes and can see what's happening in gaza that the way this is being conducted is nowhere in line with international law. anyone who has ears and can hear the statements made by israeli leaders understands that this is not in line with international law. the first thing that they announced in their response was cutting off fuel and water and electricity to 2.2 million residents in gaza. this is collective punishment, which is not in line with international law and a clear violation of the fourth geneva conventions. and the rate of killing that we are seeing, particularly the killing of civilians on the ground, cannot in any way be considered in line with international law.
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the isreali ambassador that ijust spoke to in the studio said they were conducting their operations within international law and they weren't under obligations to supply their enemy. i don't expect the israeli ambassador to come on the bbc and say, "yes, we are engaging in war crimes." i expect that the journalists would push back with the facts that are observable and ask them how they can justify the war crimes that they are committing. we are seeing this taking place. 3,000 children have been killed already. been killed already in these bombardments. civilian infrastructure is constantly being targeted. hospitals, aid workers, international law no longer has any meaning. and anyone who purports to support this and speak of international law at the same time cannot be taken seriously. and i have to say, the biggest divide that we're seeing in the world today is not a divide between good and evil. between good and evil that's been characterised by some of the leaders in the united kingdom, in the united states and elsewhere in the west. but really a divide between governments and people who are outraged over what they are seeing take
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place in gaza on the one hand, and out in the streets in london and the united states and all over the world demanding a cease fire on one side. and leaders who are speaking out of one side of their mouth about international law while fully supporting mass atrocities taking place in the gaza strip. this has to come to an end. and if there's ever going to be any credibility in the statements of western leaders, they cannot continue to support this because the entire world is seeing what is taking place. when hamas launched those attacks on the 7th of october and killed i,a00 israelis, mainly civilians. countries lined up with israel to support their act, their ability to defend themselves. this is what they're doing. there's 130 children in incubators today in the gaza strip that were not alive on october 7th. they are going to die
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because of the policies that were announced by the israeli government. this is a war crime and is unjustifiable. and no matter what happened on october 7th and by the way, history did not start then. the innocent people in gaza who are being destroyed by israeli bombardment, supported by the united states and by the united kingdom and other western allies, had nothing this is precisely why international law exists. the laws of war exist to protect innocents in times of war. and they are being utterly discarded by the kind of leaders who say that they are leading the free world and care about a rules based order. if international law does not exist in moments like this, it's worthless. earlier my colleague lyse doucet — currently reporting
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for us from jerusalem — interviewed thejordanian foreign minister ayman safadi about the geopolitical situation. he began by sharing his greatest worry concerning israel's expanding ground operation. the thousands of lives that are being lost, the complete inhumanity that that we're seeing being played out. you just said israel entered the second stage. so at the first stage, we lost about 7,000 palestinian lives. so are we going to lose more? another 8,000, 10,000 in the second stage? and where is this taking us? it will not take us to the peace and security that we all want for everybody. this war is utterly inhumane. it is... when is enough, enough? how many innocent lives? so far, almost a,000 children have been killed. almost 8,000 palestinians have been killed. when is enough, enough?
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when do we say this war has to stop this war not getting us anywhere? and the shocking images that we see coming out of gaza just challenge all of our humanity. this has got to stop. that is our biggest concern right now. but what would jordan do if an attack on the scale of october the seventh happened injordan? look, what we would do is that we recognise the pain of october seven on israel. we will not be human if we did not. but this humanity has also to be shown by by all of us. yes, it was terrible. it was tragic. but do we sink deeper into the abyss of killing more lives? will killing more palestinians bring back those who are sadly and tragically lost? it will only make things worse. lyse, you know, you cover the region for years. the amount of hatred that will come out of this, the amount of misery will not lead to peace. whatjordan would do is to say, let's learn from what has happened. let's really pause and
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ask why are we here. and let's all work together to render any tendency towards violence rejected by the people and that we do by giving people hope by bringing about peace, by creating conditions that would allow palestinians and israelis to recognise the humanity of the other. in short, we will create peace on the basis of the two—state solution so that both palestinians and israelis live in peace and never again have to suffer the pain and the misery and the death that that we're seeing now. do you agree with queen rania ofjordan that there is, in her words, a glaring double standard, including on the part ofjordan's key allies, the western states, which either abstained or voted against the resolution you sponsored in the un general assembly? i think what her majesty said and what we say is that international law has to be applicable to all. no country is above the law. we all need to come out strongly, firmly on the side of the charter
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of the united nations, the international law on the side of our humanity. we've seen a resolution adopted by the general assembly afterjordan presented one on behalf of the arab group. that resolution was supported by the majority of people on this earth, if you count the numbers. that's a step in the right direction. we need all of us to come and say international law has to apply equally and fairly. no, life is of lesser value than the other. we valuejewish life, we value israeli life, we value palestinian life. and we hope everybody will come from this moral ground and everybody says that life matters no matter what the nationality, what their religion, what the race is. and again, make sure that everybody is convinced that law applies to all. but are you deeply disappointed by your key allies, including the united states, britain, other western states who very publicly came to israel and said
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they are on israel's side in this war? you know, what we what we told everybody is like support israel, but you're not supporting israel by supporting this war. you support israel by supporting peace. because only peace will bring will bring the security and safety to every palestinian and every israeli. supporting this war is only going to to push this region deeper into the abyss, carries the risk of regional war. and, lyse, how many wars have we had before? how many violent operations have we had before? if we want to defeat the narrative of violence, we have to offer a narrative that convinces people that you have your right to live free from occupation, free from oppression within you and what's standing between you and that is violence. and unfortunately, we haven't seen that. we have seen the palestinian issue reduced to a question of creating a job here or a job there,
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thinking that you canjump over the palestinian issue to make peace in the region, which is a fallacy as events have sadly and terribly shown us. but that is the lesson for all. what we want injordan, what we want in the arab world is for palenstinians to live in peace. that war is not helping. only peace would would do that and again, prevent us from being reliving again. president erdogan of turkey has said that hamas is not a terrorist organization. do you agree? look, i think nobody�*s going to benefit from characterisations. everybody stands where they are. right now, everybody is navigating different... do you agree with israel's war aims to destroy hamas? aims to this time to destroy hamas? jordan has had its own problems with hamas. lyse, we have to ask the question what are the conditions
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that produce hamas? unless we change those conditions, the same conditions, the same misery will produce hamas. and what other than hamas, what we're trying to say, let us all convince all people on both sides that the adoption of violence as a strategy, as a means to get the peace is the wrong way. let us offer people an alternative. and people then, people themselves, palestinians and israelis, will come and say, we don't want violence because peace negotiations are getting us what we want, which is a life of decency, a life of safety, a life of promise. but we need to anchor things in reality. let me be very clear, if i may. putting things in context is not in any way justification. we're notjustifying what happened on october seven, no human being will. but at the same token, no human being willjustify what's happening in gaza now. so let's be clear. let's put things in context. learn from why we are facing this terrible moment in our very sad and tragic history
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in this part of the world, and all work together and say, "enough, enough, enough", and move forward to a stage and follow an approach that is peaceful, that will bring peace to all. you obviously want to focus on the future. you've mentioned it many times. what is the future of gaza after this military operation is over? isjordan already part of the discussions behind the scenes? and does it include hamas? the focus now is on stopping this catastrophe that we see unfolding minute in minute out. after that, we all need to come together and go back to the drawing board, which is only a comprehensive peace that... what is the drawing board? what is the future of what is the future of hamas in gaza? that will be determined, i believe, by reality on the ground. do we create a reality that will convince people that you have a future and then people themselves will stand against any other approach, whether by hamas or others? let me be frank here. you want hamas out of the picture? prove that hamas is doing wrong,
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that hamas will not get palestinians the future that they want. war has has failed to do that, repeatedly. 15 years of security... we've already seen the tactics used by hamas. we have to ask the question. why are we here? what can we do to make sure it doesn't happen again? i'm telling you, the wasteland that gaza is being turned into right now is going to produce conditions of misery that will take us all into this very spot which we never wanted to be in which we worked so hard to avoid. and again, let's call things as they are. in order to, on both sides, in order to get rid of the pink villages and small ticks who call for wiping palestinians out from the face of the air, to call them animals and to get rid of everybody, including hamas, who are believing that that violence is the path. what we need to do is to give
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people an alternative. the only alternative is a meaningful peace process that will simply give palestinians and israelis what any people on this earth want, which is to live free, to live with hope, and to make sure that their kids are not the risk of at the risk of losing their lives. it seems quite unlikely. israel has made it clear it will not accept the calls for a cease fire accept the calls for a ceasefire. if this war continues, what will arab states do? you have israeli diplomats in your countries. you have a peace treaty with israel. what kind of levers can you use if the calls for a ceasefire continue to be rejected? look, i think notjustjordan, notjust the arab world, i think the whole world will have to do whatever it takes to stop this war. if israel continues with its war... what can jordan do? what pressure do you have that you could use against israel? because israel is not listening
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and its allies are not listening. jordan did not start this war. jordan is trying to stop this war. jordan have been for years saying that the only path is giving the palestinians their rights so that palestinians and israelis live in peace. right now we're working with other arab countries, with the international community in a way that we hope will be able to get us to the end of this ugliness that we see. and we will do whatever it takes at the right time, at the right moment, whatever we believe will help end this war, we will do it. and what do you think can help to end this war? because the war has is not stopping. it's intensifying. i think all of us coming together in one unified position as a global community, all of us speaking to the absurdity and ugliness of what's happening, all of us reaching out to each other as well, and reminding each other that that our humanity should not be sacrificed at the altar of proving deterrence or any other action borne
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out of rage and anger. no matter how much that rage is, no matter how the pain is. and again, let me say it clearly. we do recognise the pain that was brought upon israel by the october seven, but they, too, need to recognize the pain that's being brought upon palestinians in this war. and, lyse, let me put it openly again. let israel go, then continue with this war. let them kill 200-300,000 palestinians, everybody who ever uttered the word hamas from three years old to 90. and then what? you have 2 million people left. what kind of reality will they be left with? these are real questions that we need to answer. it's easy to think of the first stage and the second stage. have they thought what the third step is and where that where that those two steps are taking us? i think, again, it's time for all of us to bid the ones all of us say time for reason
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and sanity to come back and see how we can prevent this, stop this now and prevent it from happening again. and the only way to do that is to give palestinians their rights, to give israelis their right and again, start the hard and difficult process after all this of making sure that we get over this anger and hatred and bring back among the people the willingness, the ability, the human nature that would recognise the humanity of the other. recognising the humanity of gaza, all that you call for is so important. but what if you believe it's important to end the war, if israel won't listen to the calls for a cease fire, then you have to turn to its allies, which are also allies ofjordan. your words to them in private must be even angrier than what you are saying in public, because they're not telling israel to stop firing. we're telling everybody what they need to hear. we are telling everybody where we stand. and i think what ijust said represents what where we stand. and we're telling everybody that
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if this war continues, it's dragging the whole region into a regional war whose consequences will be devastating for everyone. we're telling everybody that there's a growing public opinion in the arab world now that is looking at where every country is standing and making their own conclusions on what is this war is really about. again, we're telling them, if you want to support israel, do not support the killing of palestinians. if you want to support israel, support israel's right to live in security and the palestinians right to live in dignity and freedom. and this is the only way that we can all be true to our humanity and be true to our interests and be true to the international law. and this approach to this crisis is going to haunt our international relations for years. with all due respect, ukraine abstained on the vote that we put forward to end this war. do they expect us to vote for ending the war on them? i mean, we'll do what's right because our morality
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is not transactional. but they think they should ask this question. they should have thought of this question before. so, again, we're i think we are all are facing a huge challenge now. if we allow this war to continue, then not only have we failed our international standards, but we failed the right of all our peoples to live in peace. and i think all of us need to take a deep pause and say that we all have failed the palestinian people, the israeli people, by allowing all those all those years to pass without genuine effort to end this conflict. that we warn and will continue to warn is the cause and is the route of conflict in the region. occupation has to end. israel then gets to live in peace. palestinians get to live in peace. we need a comprehensive plan that addresses all the details and not the in a tunnel vision that only focuses at one aspect of why we have this conflict. we have to look at all aspects
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and to really come out strongly unified, to create a reality where none of us will have to suffer the atrocities and the pain that that that are unfolding now. tributes have poured in for the actor matthew perry, who's died at the age of 5a. he became famous around the world for playing chandler bing in friends, one of the biggest tv shows of the 90s and noughties. he was found dead at his home in los angeles yesterday. our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba reports. each of friends' six stars brought unique characteristics to the show. matthew perry's chandler — he was the funny one. someone at work ate my sandwich. well, what did the police say? i'm sorry, we don't have your sheep. i went to that tanning place your wife suggested. was that place...the sun? supremely talented at delivering sometimes self—aware one—liners. i'm chandler, i makejokes when i'm uncomfortable.
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i'm not great at the advice. can i interest you in a sarcastic comment? but during his time on the comedy hit, he was struggling with addiction. between the end of one season and the start of the next, losing more than 20 kilos, something he often spoke candidly about. it became a very public issue, which in hindsight was quite good. i mean, i'm happy that it was because it ultimately helped me in the long run because i had to go through those struggles publicly, i get to help a lot more people. in the early hours of this morning, us media reported that the actor had been found dead in his hot tub. the los angeles police department confirmed to the bbc that a man in his 50s was unresponsive in a water emergency at perry's home. we go way back before monica made an honest man out of him... among those paying tribute have been maggie wheeler, who played janice, a previous girlfriend of chandler's. she said...
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i got her machine. her answering machine? no, interestingly enough her leaf—blower picked up. laughter. with roles spanning tv and film, matthew perry's career was more than just friends, but chandler bing is the role that will define him for millions. matthew perry, who's died at the age of 5a. stay with us here we will have plenty more coverage from gaza the very latest, these are live pictures of the dark because of skyline that we are monitoring for you. stay with us. this is bbc news.
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hello. rain has dominated the weather story over the last couple of weeks and there is more unwanted rain to come through the week ahead. but also of concern, the risk of damaging winds, particularly through wednesday night and thursday, as i'll show you in a moment. in the shorter term, still some outbreaks of rain, certainly some showers as we go through tonight, some clear spells as well. temperatures maybe dropping to three degrees in the highlands, 11 there in the south—west of england, but low pressure still very much in charge of our weather as we head into monday morning. this low will be weakening somewhat, so it won't be as windy on monday, but there will still be some showers. some really hefty showers actually across parts of northern ireland, the isle of man and some scattered showers across england and wales. some of these still heavy, thundery, still with the potential to bring some localised flooding and disruption, some sunny spells in between. scotland having a much drier day, just the odd shower, but most places will be fine and temperatures north to south, 8 to 15 degrees. into tuesday, more showers in the forecast. a band of showers likely to be
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pushing northwards and eastwards across northern ireland, parts of england and wales. scotland again largely dry. south—west england later in the day will see a band of heavy thundery rain, our next frontal system, and that will drive its way northwards and eastwards during tuesday night and into wednesday. very heavy rain for the middle part of the week. some snow for a time over high ground in northern scotland, also turning quite windy for coasts of wales, south—west england and in the north of scotland. those temperatures again, 8—15 degrees. and then we have a deep area of low pressure that is expected to approach our shores on thursday. this has been named storm ciaran by the met office. the exact track of this low may change a little bit between now and then, so it is worth staying in touch with the forecast as we firm up on the details. certainly, though, it looks like many of us will see some very heavy rain.
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and down towards the south of england and south wales, there's the chance for inland spots to see gusts of up to 60mph. but if this forecast comes off as is currently expected, we could see gusts of 80—90mph for exposed coasts in the south. that would bring damage and significant disruption, there will also be a lot of rain.
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health workers report shelling near to the al-quds hospital in gaza, hours after israel gives an order to evacuate. the palestinian red crescent says it's requested urgent clarification. this decision affects the lives of 1a,000 people, plus our patients. and it's really, they are putting us in a corner. we don't really know what to do. the un warns civil order may be breaking down in gaza, as thousands of residents break into warehouses for food and other basic items. our other main story: matthew perry, one of the stars of the hit tv show friends, has died. he was 5a. hello. i'm lewis vaughan jones. international agencies have expressed concern about reports
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