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live from washington, this is bbc news. israel's bombardment of more than gaza continues with staff at a key hospital there warning it is impossible to evacuate patients. {iii there warning it is impossible to evacuate patients. of course we are worried, _ to evacuate patients. of course we are worried, these - to evacuate patients. of course we are worried, these rockets i we are worried, these rockets will destroy the hospital and will destroy the hospital and will kill, with 14,000 will destroy the hospital and will kill, with 1a,000 people inside the hospital, it's going to be a massacre. ten inside the hospital, it's going to be a massacre.— inside the hospital, it's going to be a massacre. ten trucks of aid are allowed _ to be a massacre. ten trucks of aid are allowed into _ to be a massacre. ten trucks of aid are allowed into gaza - to be a massacre. ten trucks of aid are allowed into gaza but i aid are allowed into gaza but egypt says hundreds more are being held back. i'm helena humphries, good to have you with us. we begin in gaza where international aid agencies are expressing concerns about lots of an evacuation order for a key hospital, they have warned evacuating the site is impossible as it is treating
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hundreds of people some of whom critically ill. 1a,000 gazans are reported to be sheltering at the hospital and the north of gaza in both the world health organisation and international federation of the red cross and red crescent societies are sounding the alarm over the evacuation order, saying hospitals must be protected, while there are unconfirmed reports of airstrikes 20 metres from the al quds hospital facility on sunday these images showing smoke billowing from what appears to be a strike nearby. this footage shows staff and patients struggling to breathe because of smoke inside the hospital, it shows damage to windows after what the palestine red crescent described as a very intense bombardment around the hospital with one pocket falling only metres away. the al quds hospital is a northern gaza and the focus of the israeli military operation against hamas. the israeli military has reiterated its call for civilians in northern gaza to evacuate to the south and the
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director—general of the palestine red crescent society, he told us he fears a strike on the al quds hospital. and of course, we are worried, you know, that these rockets will destroy the hospital and will kill. with14,000 people inside the hospital, it's going to be a massacre. so we are afraid. we are horrified by the potential that this could really happen. and we don't know what to do. we are calling upon the international community to put pressure on israel to rescind this order and to respect the medical mission of the palestine red crescent society. earlier israeli army spokesperson daniel hagari gave a news conference calling on people in the north of gaza to evacuate. people in the north of gaza to evacuate-— people in the north of gaza to evacuate. ~ ., _, ., evacuate. we are continuing to assess the _ evacuate. we are continuing to assess the situation _ evacuate. we are continuing to assess the situation and - assess the situation and expanding things gradually based on our plans in order to achieve the objectives of this war. the ground force on the
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ground campaign is extremely complex we will do everything possible, from the sea, air and from the ground in order to ensure that our troops will be safe. we are calling upon the northern gazans to evacuate temporarily to the south, for your own safety and we are stressing that we are calling that, we are calling upon you urgently to do so. just below the gaza river, the conditions will be so much better, there is water, food and read it —— medication there. is water, food and read it -- medication there.— is water, food and read it -- medication there. jeremy bowen has this report — medication there. jeremy bowen has this report from _ medication there. jeremy bowen has this report from southern . has this report from southern israel. people are living in the ruins in gaza. the israelis insist that they hit hamas targets, who use civilians as human shields. america said it has sent israel another reminder that hamas are legitimate military targets, and civilians are not.
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in gaza, the un fears civil order is breaking down. its food warehouses in the south were looted. the desperation comes from israel's siege, which the un says violates the laws of war because it's a collective punishment of civilians. thousands of people ransacked the warehouses. israel says there is no food shortage in gaza. he is saying, "we have no flour, no water, not even toilets. 0ur houses were destroyed, no—one cares about us. "we appeal to the people of the world, the big "powers are against us. "we need aid. "we wouldn't have done this if we weren't in need." translation: we need fresh water. we need food. we are starving. this is totally unfair. our children can't sleep. further north
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in gaza city, after patients and staff refused israel's order to evacuate al-quds hospital, the red cross red crescent said the lives of civilians and media should be respected. only a few miles away, in sderot, the closest israeli town to gaza, a sense of grim determination has replaced the panic of the first few days after the hamas attacks. eyal hajbi, sderot�*s head of security, said his nephew and some of his team were killed by hamas. a visiting general, nimrod aloni, was greeted like a man back from the dead. 0n the 7th of october, hamas made the false claim that they had captured aloni and taken him into gaza. hajbi said they were all still trying to process the horror of what happened. the security chief took me on a tour of sderot�*s defences. hamas, he said, had hit them hard. the equation had to change,
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and if palestinian civilians suffered, it was not israel's fault. translation: we allowed them to come and work in israel, and we thought this would help the ordinary people of gaza. we thought a good economy would bring some peace. but now we know that only security brings peace. after 20 rounds of war with hamas and islamichhad, this needs to be a story that ends here. 0ur eyes were closed, he said, and we lost everything. israel's dead are still being identified. hajbi says he can't face any more funerals. night and day, israel's ground war to destroy hamas gathers pace. it is reverberating around the region. the risks of a wider middle east war remain. jeremy bowen, bbc news in southern israel.
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for more on the situation in gaza and the israeli situation i spoke with our correspondence paul adams injerusalem. i want to start by touching on the situation at the al quds hospital because according to the palestinian red crescent they are saying they are being told to evacuate that hospital, not something israel has confirmed at this stage, are we any clearer as to understanding situation there? i'm afraid we are not, when you put together the repeated warnings which the palestine red crescent says it has received to evacuate that hospital and the fact there was some kind of artillery or air strike nearby, causing windows to shatter and dust and smoke to enter the corridors of the hospital, you can understand the sense of anxiety bordering on panic among the staff there and also the thousands of people who have been sheltering in the hospital and in the hospital grounds.
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they believe the hospital is in imminent danger of being attacked but the hospital is saying with people in intensive care and babies and incubators they are simply incapable of leaving as they say they are being instructed to by the israelis. it's worth pointing out the wider context that for a couple of weeks the israelis have been urging notjust hospitals but everyone to leave gaza city and move south. some have obeyed those instructions and others have stayed put. we have also been seeing more images of israeli troops today on the ground in gaza, in what has been called phase two of this military operation. do we have a clearer sense of what phase two will entail? i think it's going to be a gradual, incremental increasing presence on the ground inside the gaza strip. it's very limited at the moment it's basically a small patch
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on the far north—west corner of gaza are some other limited incursions further south but i think what the israelis are doing is gradually moving forward, they are not yet close to the heavily built up areas around gaza city but that is clearly the objective in their sights and as they are moving forward they are gathering intelligence, trying to look for clues about where hostages may be still being held and just probing the hamas defences because at some point, the israelis are going to try and move into gaza city, to really take on hamas in that urban environment. they want as many people to live as possible before they do that and so i think for the time being they are still moving relatively cautiously, of course while this massive aerial bombardment continues day in, day out. i just want to touch on the humanitarian situation, we have been hearing ten trucks carrying relief supplies have been allowed into gaza from egypt.
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we have been hearing reports of this rush for food among the dire conditions there, do we know if more much—needed aid will have a chance of getting in? there is a readout from a conversation tonight thatjoe biden and the israeli prime minister have had in which american officials are saying thatjoe biden was very keen the amount of aid getting in through the egyptian border, the raffa crossing, should increase and the israelis had agreed to allow up to 100 trucks a day, that would be a significant improvement on what is going on at the moment which is a pitifully small amount but it is still considerably less than the amount is still considerably less than the amount going in before this crisis erupted more than three weeks ago and given the increasingly dire humanitarian situation existing on the ground, it's going to take a lot more than that to try and alleviate that, even as this war continues and is likely to continue
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for the foreseeable future. the humanitarian situation will remain precarious at best for the foreseeable future. diplomatic correspondent paul adams, thank you, we appreciate it. as well as the thousands of people sheltering in the al quds hospital hospital there are many more displaced and living intense in the of gaza, struggling to find water, food and bathrooms, there is very little medication for those who need it and our special correspondent fergal keane has been speaking to some of those trapped inside gaza, a warning his report does contain some distressing images. in the bombed districts of gaza... shouting and screaming ..it seems as if the world is broken. a trauma shared across generations. women cries "my daughter, my daughter," a voice calls out.
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children caught in an escalating war. the israelis say they're targeting hamas, the killers of their citizens. explosion in these densely packed areas, civilian casualties are mounting. "i was about to do my afternoon prayers," he says, "and suddenly the missile fell on our house." men shout they've known war before, but nothing like this. who lives, who dies, a matter of chance. and their stories only reach us through the courage of a few. hello, mahmoud, how are you? hello. mahmoud bassam is one
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of the journalists inside gaza reporting the tragedy for the bbc. his images, a daily record of a people's agony. he said that as hard as things are and as much as he tried to deliver the message he's trying to deliver, sometimes from behind the camera he would stand and cry and the only thing that he would do isjust being silent. more than 1.4 million people have fled their homes. such shelter as they can find is rudimentary. access to the basic essentials of life, severely restricted. translation: we've reached a state where we wish we'd i died under the rubble, just to find some rest. our life is torture. we wait in line for three hours to use the toilet.
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can a child like this wait for three hours for a turn to go to the toilet? can a child wait for bread? it's catastrophic. the questions accumulate. the war offers only pain in reply. fergal keane, bbc news, jerusalem. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. south korea is marking the first anniversary of a deadly crush at a halloween street party in seoul. thousands of south koreans, including survivors and bereaved families, marched to city hall in seoul. many have expressed anger that no—one's been held criminally responsible for the deaths, though several local officials are on trial. colombia has asked venezuela
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for help in locating the kidnapped farth father of the liverpool football player luis diaz. they were abducted from their home town of caracas on sunday. his mother has been rescued. more than 120 soldiers have been involved in an operation to locate had player's father. russia has threatened to seize assets belonging to eu countries if the eu carries out plans to donate state funds to ukraine. the eu says it's trying to generate the profits and use it for ukrainian reconstruction. you are live with bbc news. returning now to our top story — the israel—gaza war — and concern over israel's warning for civilians to evacuate the al-quds hospital in gaza city. the hospital is run by the palestine red crescent society, a member of the international federation of red cross and red
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crescent societies. tommaso is the federation�*s spokesperson. hejoined me a little earlier. as i'm sure you're aware, israel says that hamas has turned hospitals into command centres and hide—outs for hamas commanders. if that is the case, is that something that the red cross is concerned about, specifically with reference to increased risk to civilian life, for people who may be sheltering there? i want to make it _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear - _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear - the _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear - the issue - to make it clear — the issue here is that of course hospitals must be protected. and on the other side, no—one should use hospitals for military purposes. i mean, this is under international humanitarian law, it's crystal clear. i'm not aware of any such activity in our hospital. and anyways, if you think about the hundreds of injured or doctors and nurses, none of
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them deserve to be in danger. so again, the call to all the part says to respect hospitals, to respect civilians and, of course, not to use any civilian infrastructure inch any hospital for military purposes. aid has been trickling in to the gaza strip, but aid agencies say that it is a small fraction of what is needed. ten trucks carrying relief supplies were allowed into gaza from egypt on sunday, but egypt says that hundreds more are being held back. and after visiting the rafah crossing, the international criminal court's top prosecutor said that the impending aid deliveries for gaza — that impeding them could constitute a war crime, and efforts must be made to ensure that vital supplies are allowed in. joining me live now is luis moreno—campo, the first chief prosecutor of the international criminal court, us tonight from los angeles. welcome to you. thank you so much forjoining us on the programme.
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the past three weeks of this conflict has seen the killing of civilians in israel and the taking of hostages from israel. of taking of hostages from israel. of course, as you know, it's also seen the bombing and blockade of gaza, leading to the killing of palestinian civilians, and the unfolding humanitarian catastrophe that we are witnessing now. you of course have prosecuted war crimes. what is your sense of what we're seeing?— crimes. what is your sense of what we're seeing? well, first, i'm not talking _ what we're seeing? well, first, i'm not talking in _ what we're seeing? well, first, i'm not talking in the _ what we're seeing? well, first, i'm not talking in the name - what we're seeing? well, first, i'm not talking in the name of. i'm not talking in the name of the current prosecutor. i'm not in touch with him, and i'm just giving you my personal opinion based on my experience. however, i think it's very important he visit the place, he show his interest. and that's a signal how much people could be prosecuted. but israeli ministers — prime minister, generals — could also be prosecuted. that's the
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message he is sending them. it's a very courageous move. the prosecutor has a huge recompensability, and he's showing his commitment. the us and other allies _ showing his commitment. the us and other allies have _ showing his commitment. the us and other allies have said - showing his commitment. the us and other allies have said that. and other allies have said that israel has the right to defend itself, following the attacks of october 7. the icc top prosecutor has said today talking about that visit that israel must conduct its operations under the laws of proportionality in relation to civilian buildings. is that happening, do you think, based on your experience?— on your experience? well, we need to investigate _ on your experience? well, we need to investigate each - on your experience? well, we need to investigate each of. on your experience? well, we | need to investigate each of the bombings to answer your question. but the prosecutor put the finger in something more broad, because the blockade through the gaza line — that itself could be a war
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crime, could be a crime against humanity, and even a genocide if intention was to destroy the people in gaza. and that should be the three crimes that could be the three crimes that could be investigated. that is the message of the prosecutor. so with each each bomb, each hospital, each killing, it should be investigated. but the general point is that the blockade itself is a big crime. and that's something you have to understand. the ministers in israel could be investigated. what about when it comes to hamas' attack on the 7th of october? how might that be investigated and prosecuted? investigated and prosecuted ? yeah, investigated and prosecuted? yeah, the prosecutor was clear that he could also investigate that he could also investigate that crime, because the crime was committed in israel but by palestinian people — therefore the prosecutor can investigate
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it, but also the crime was planned and partially executed in gaza. gaza is under theneural criminal court jurisdiction. to me, the good point being made is that people are discussing to pick sides — israeli side, palestinian side. the prosecutor is helping all of us to pick the side of the victims. israeli victims, gaza victims, palestinian victims. that is the enormous contribution. we have to stop the crimes now. it is not enough to punish the crime. we need to stop the crime. uk and us have to be much more firm to stop the crimes now. the blockade or the elements to survive to gaza people is a crime itself. it's a crime against humanity and could be a genocide. against humanity and could be a uenocide. �* , against humanity and could be a uenocide. �*, ., . ., genocide. let's touch a little bit more _ genocide. let's touch a little bit more on _ genocide. let's touch a little bit more on the _ genocide. let's touch a little bit more on the situation - bit more on the situation inside gaza, because under
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international humanitarian law, hospitals are not targets, but israel alleges that hamas is using hospitals and using other civilian infrastructure as command centres, with tunnels beneath them. does that make the situation more complicated at all under international humanitarian law?- at all under international humanitarian law? well, the aeneral humanitarian law? well, the general could _ humanitarian law? well, the general could defend - humanitarian law? well, the - general could defend themselves before the court but, basically, it's time to prevent the crime. before you shoot at hospital, there's no proportionality there. you should find a different way to hamas. you cannot drop bombs in the hospital — notjust destroying the people inside, you're destroying the lives of the people in the blockade. these people with blockade — no food, no gasoline, no hospital now. they're asking them to move. there's no gasoline. where can they move? how can they move? basically, the main point i'm trying to make is — in addition to each individual incident, there's a general
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situation where people are exterminated. that's a crime against humanity — extermination. or it could be genocide. extermination. or it could be genocide-— extermination. or it could be uenocide. , ., genocide. sorry - israel would make the _ genocide. sorry - israel would make the point _ genocide. sorry - israel would make the point that _ genocide. sorry - israel would make the point that they - genocide. sorry - israel would | make the point that they make every effort to protect civilians. they're saying that they're giving warnings, telling people to move, for example, from the north to the south. ~ , �* , ., south. well, but there's no gasoline- — south. well, but there's no gasoline. how— south. well, but there's no gasoline. how can - south. well, but there's no gasoline. how can they - south. well, but there's no - gasoline. how can they move? they've blocked the gasoline. that's why — look, i agree with you — each bombing should be investigated. that's why i'm not making any opinion on each bombing. but the general blockade and the essential element — that itself already is a crime against humanity and could be a genocide. that is a point i'm trying to make. forgetting the middle incident — we will discuss each of them after. but the blockade itself is a crime against humanity or a genocide, and should be stopped today — now. i a genocide, and should be stopped today - now. i want to
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net back stopped today - now. i want to get back to _ stopped today - now. i want to get back to something - stopped today - now. i want to get back to something else - stopped today - now. i want to| get back to something else you said with regards to stopping this in the first place.- this in the first place. yes... western _ this in the first place. yes... western governments - - this in the first place. yes... western governments - the | this in the first place. yes... - western governments - the us, western governments — the us, the uk — have deemed hamas a terrorist organisation. in your opinion, is there any way that israel can rid itself of the threat of hamas without war, specifically looking at the justice system, for example? is there anything they can do there? ., ~' ,, there anything they can do there? ., ,, i. ., there anything they can do there? . ~' i” ., i” there? thank you for your question- _ there? thank you for your question. because - there? thank you for your question. because that'sl there? thank you for your| question. because that's a crucial question. it's not necessary to invade gaza, to control hamas. the leaders of hamas are not in gaza. it's somewhere in qatar. the israeli judge — not icc, the israeli judge — not icc, the israeli judge — not icc, the israeli judge — could order the arrest of these children and start to have a change and stop the financing. we are dealing with organised crime here, with a terrorist group. the way to control them is not killing individuals, it's taking out the leaders who plan and organise and give the money.
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it's a morejudicial organise and give the money. it's a more judicial operation than a media operation. the war produced vengeance. justice brought vengeance. that's why it's so important. you mentioned _ it's so important. you | mentioned vengeance. it's so important. you i mentioned vengeance. i it's so important. you mentioned vengeance. i wonder if you're concerned about escalation spilling out in the wider region? {iii escalation spilling out in the wider region?— wider region? of course. turkey's _ wider region? of course. turkey's saying - wider region? of course. turkey's saying that. - wider region? of course. i turkey's saying that. syria's saying that. this could be real escalation. stop bombing. do justice. bill escalation. stop bombing. do 'ustice. �* ., justice. all right. former chief prosecutor - justice. all right. former chief prosecutor of - justice. all right. former chief prosecutor of the i chief prosecutor of the international criminal court, thank you so much for sharing your insights with us here on the bbc. greatly appreciate it. thank you. you're watching bbc news. i'm helena humphrey in washington. thanks for your company. we'll have more for you at the top of the hour. join me then, if you can. bye for now.
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hello there. it's going to stay very unsettled across the uk as we head through this week with low pressure still very much in charge. so, long spells of rain, heavy, thundery downpours. the winds are likely to pick up at times. and we'll also see, on wednesday night into thursday, our third named storm of the season, storm ciaran, named by the met office on sunday. and those rainfall totals are really going to start to stack up again as we head through the next five days — you can see all the blues on our rainfall accumulation chart here. more wet weather for flood—stricken areas, such as eastern parts of scotland, too. now, low pressure is centred out towards the west of ireland, just sending bands of showers swirling around. it should be a largely dry start to the day across scotland but it is quite a chilly one and it's still quite breezy for many, particularly towards the channel coast. but the winds are certainly lightening as we head throughout the day. now, the heaviest of the showers on monday will tend to be across northern ireland. we could start to see some localised flooding, maybe, as those rainfall totals stack up. also, some more heavy showers
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across western wales, the southwest of england towards channel coast, too, just drifting further northwards and eastwards. further east, largely dry. and for scotland, the lion's share of the sunshine north of the central belt. but here, the air is going to feel chillier. now, on tuesday, again, scotland, still a welcome respite from all of that rain. it should stay largely dry and sunny. a few isolated showers in the north. elsewhere, out towards the west, we will see some showers, some brighter spells and a warm front starts to creep into southwest wales and south—west england by the end of the day on tuesday. temperatures again 9—15 degrees celsius. now, that warm front will track further northwards and eastwards as we head through tuesday night and into wednesday, bringing with it widespread heavy rain and some strong, gusty winds as well. and some of that rain in the chillier air across the highlands will be turning to snow. just take a look at that easterly wind piling all of that rain onshore into aberdeenshire yet again. it's windy out towards the west here. further south, we're expecting some showers. temperatures again 9—15 degrees. but of more concern than the weather on wednesday is going to be the weather on thursday. now, this is storm ciaran. it's a very deep area of low pressure. you can see the tight squeeze on the isobars here. gusts of wind towards channel coasts on wednesday
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