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live from washington, this is bbc news. israel reports striking more than a50 hamas targets as its ground operation continues into gaza. inside gaza, staff at akeal there are warning it is impossible to evacuate patients from harm's way. and ten tracts of aid are allowed into gaza but egypt says hundreds more are being held back. —— trucks surveyed. i'm helena humphrey. we begin in gaza, where national mocro for international aid agencies are expressing concern about an evacuation orderfor a are expressing concern about an evacuation order for a key hospital. they formed evacuating big site is impossible as it is treating hundreds of people, some critically ill. about ia,000 gazans are reported to be shopping at the hospital in
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gaza's north and both the world health organization and international federation of red cross and red crescent societies are sounding the alarm over the evacuation order, saying hospitals must be protected. this footage shows sharp —— staff and patients struggling to breathe because of smoke inside the alkyds hospital amid broken windows from nearby rocket strikes and with you live now to southern israel looking into gaza ——al quds. as day breaks you can see there and we also know that israel's military says it has killed dozens of terrorists while forming the gaza strip on sunday. ten tracts carrying relief supplies have been allowed into gaza from egypt but much more is needed, according to aid agencies. jeremy bowen has this report from southern israel. people are living in the ruins in gaza. the israelis insist that they hit hamas targets, who use civilians as human shields. america said it has sent israel another reminder that hamas
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are legitimate military targets, and civilians are not. in gaza, the un fears civil order is breaking down. its food warehouses in the south were looted. the desperation comes from israel's siege, which the un says violates the laws of war because it's a collective punishment of civilians. thousands of people ransacked the warehouses. israel says there is no food shortage in gaza. he's saying, "we have no flour, no water, "not even toilets. "0ur houses were destroyed. "no—one cares about us. "we appeal to the people of the world, the big powers "are against us. "we need aid. "we wouldn't have done this if we weren't in need." translation: we need fresh water. _ we need food. we are starving. this is totally unfair. our children can't sleep.
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israel hit targets near al quds hospital in gaza city. patients and staff had refused an order to evacuate. the red cross red crescent said the lives of civilians and medics should be protected. only a few miles away in sderot, the closest israeli town to gaza, a sense of grim determination has replaced the panic of the first few days after the hamas attacks. eyal hajbi, sderot�*s head of security, said his nephew and some of his team were killed by hamas. a visiting general, nimrod aloni, was greeted like a man back from the dead. 0n the 7th of october, hamas made the false claim that they had captured aloni and taken him into gaza. hajbi said they were all still trying to process the horror of what happened.
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the security chief took me on a tour of sderot�*s defences. hamas, he said, had hit them hard. the equation had to change and if palestinian civilians suffered, it was not israel's fault. translation: we allowed them to come and work in israel- and we thought this would help the ordinary people of gaza. we thought a good economy would bring some peace. but now, we know that only security brings peace. but after 20 rounds of war with hamas and islamichhad, this needs to be a story that ends here. "0ur eyes were closed," he said, "and we lost everything". israel's dead are still being identified. hajbi says he can't face any more funerals. night and day, israel's ground war to destroy hamas gathers pace. it is reverberating around the region. the risks of a wider middle east war remain. jeremy bowen, bbc news in southern israel.
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0ur our special correspondent fergal keane has been speaking to some of those trapped in gaza and a warning his report contains distressing images. in the bombed districts of gaza... shouting and screaming ..it seems as if the world is broken. a trauma shared across generations. women cries out "my daughter, my daughter," a voice calls out. children caught in an escalating war. the israelis say they're targeting hamas, the killers of their citizens. explosion in these densely packed areas, civilian casualties
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are mounting. "i was about to do my afternoon prayers," he says, "and suddenly, the missile fell on our house". shouting they've known war before, but nothing like this. who lives, who dies, a matter of chance. and their stories only reach us through the courage of a few. hello, mahmoud. how are you? hello. mahmoud bassam is one of the journalists inside gaza reporting the tragedy for the bbc. his images, a daily record of a people's agony. he said that as hard as things
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he saw and as much as he tried to deliver the message he's trying to deliver, sometimes from behind the camera he would stand and cry and the only thing that he would do is just being silent. more than i.a million people have fled their homes. such shelter as they can find is rudimentary. access to the basic essentials of life, severely restricted. translation: we've reached a state where we wish we'd i died under the rubble, just to find some rest. 0ur life is torture. we wait in line for three hours to use the toilet. can a child like this wait for three hours for a turn to go to the toilet? can a child wait for bread? it's catastrophic. the questions accumulate. the war offers only pain in reply. fergal keane, bbc news, jerusalem.
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earlier i spoke with international federation of red cross and red crescent societies spokesperson thomas about getting more aid into gaza. i'd like to start about talking about the situation in the l could hospital in gaza. what have you been hearing from the red crescent about the situation there about what is going on there right now ——al quds. going on there right now --al quds. , ., ., ., ~ quds. first of all thank you for having _ quds. first of all thank you for having me. _ quds. first of all thank you for having me. if _ quds. first of all thank you for having me. if this - for having me. if this situation is deeply concerning. what we discovered from palestinian colleagues is that they were asked today to evacuate immediately the hospital. this actually is not the first time it happened. a couple of times during the last weeks. then i think this time is more concerning following the actions since last friday
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with the heavy shelling in gaza city and, of course, it is deeply concerning because the hospital is full of patients, more than 500 patients. some of them are in the intensive care unit, people may need oxygen and there is no means and no logistics to evacuate them, plus almost more than 10,000 people sought refuge in the hospital because they thought correctly the hospital is a safe place, the faith —— safest place where to stay, so we are deeply concerned and asking everyone to really respect the hospitals and protect the hospitals, civilians, doctors and nurses. these are notjust and nurses. these are notjust a moral obligation but a legal obligation under international humanitarian law.— humanitarian law. israel has not confirmed _ humanitarian law. israel has not confirmed the _ humanitarian law. israel has| not confirmed the evacuation order yet and ijust not confirmed the evacuation order yet and i just wonder where are your colleagues there getting these evacuation orders from? are they able to say? yes, they told us they received direct phone calls, as it
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happened before, and yet, then they were ordered to evacuate. and actually, this is also coming after i would say in the last week or ten days, all the people in the north and in gaza and in gaza city were asked to evacuate going south. now, the problem here is in general, with this evacuation order but notjust with this evacuation order but not just with the with this evacuation order but notjust with the hospital but for civilians, it's hard to evacuate, how to move in a safe situation and also where to go because there is not really a safe place where to stay in gaza and there is no place where i don't know you can find shelter, food and water so it's really difficult.— really difficult. absolutely and we've _ really difficult. absolutely and we've seen _ really difficult. absolutely and we've seen that - really difficult. absolutely and we've seen that level| really difficult. absolutely l and we've seen that level of destruction in gaza as well, many neighbourhoods now reduced to rubble. is there any kind of help for people to try and evacuate, especially when people may be critically ill, as you've just said? how do you move from the north to the
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south if you're unwell, if you've been receiving treatment?— you've been receiving treatment? ., , ., treatment? you simply cannot. you simply _ treatment? you simply cannot. you simply cannot. _ treatment? you simply cannot. you simply cannot. there - treatment? you simply cannot. you simply cannot. there is - treatment? you simply cannot. | you simply cannot. there is no, again, the problem is infrastructure. roads are bombarded. fuel, even for vehicles, is almost running out. and then, i mean, of course, to evacuate, people in intensive care units still have a high level logistics to do that so mainly in these exact moment, asking to evacuate people from intensive care units, it seems like, yeah, i mean, knowing that you will not be able to do it and then, i mean, let me add this is a really impossible dilemma that no doctor or nurse should have a face in their life because here, our people in al quds hospital need to decide to leave leaving patients behind or find some safety or to stay with their patients and risk
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their lives and, of course, this is unacceptable.- this is unacceptable. the choice that _ this is unacceptable. the choice that no _ this is unacceptable. the choice that no medic - this is unacceptable. the choice that no medic wants to make, and as i'm sure you're aware it ross's hamas has turned hospitals into command centres and hideouts for hamas commanders —— israel has said. in that case is it something that the red cross is concerned about, specifically with reference to increased risk to civilian life, for people who may be sheltering there? i want to make it _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear, _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear, the _ may be sheltering there? i want to make it clear, the issue - to make it clear, the issue here is that of course, hospitals must be protected and on the other side, no—one should use a hospitalfor military purposes, so this is—i mean, under international humanitarian law it is impossible and i'm not aware of any activity in our hospital and anyway, if you think about hundreds of injured or doctors and nurses, no—one of them deserves to be in danger. so
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again, the call to all the parties is to respect the hospitals and respect civilians and of course not to use any civilian infrastructure or any hospital for military purposes. and just talk to us a little bit about the conditions that people are living under right now inside the gaza strip. little medication, we understand around 50,000 pregnant women there with little access to health facilities, food, clean drinking water. talk to us about some of the huge health risks there. i about some of the huge health risks there-— risks there. i can tell you a few days — risks there. i can tell you a few days ago _ risks there. i can tell you a few days ago talking - risks there. i can tell you a few days ago talking about j risks there. i can tell you a i few days ago talking about a catastrophic situation and now i would say a desperate situation because in the last a8 hours we saw a blackout of communications for almost everyone not able to communicate but everyone in gaza not able to connect to humanitarian services so ambulances at the red crescent going around gaza just following the noise of
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bombardments and risking their own life and this is something that really again is not acceptable and then there's the shortage of literally everything, food, water, medicines, empty shells in hospitals and then a lack of fuel for electricity and in the gaza strip fuel is a life—saving item because you need fuel to get the electricity further water sanitation, so it's a desperate situation because it not exactly clear what's next and how we will be able to address all these needs and of course there was positive news eight days ago when the rafa crossing with gaza was opened but nowadays, it's almost 100 trucks entering gaza and this is of course less than a drop in the ocean. we're talking about more 2 million civilians and 100 trucks of course is not the answer so again, we need to get humanitarian access, safely, but also safe humanitarian spaces to operate because we need safety to operate but civilians need
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safety to get the humanitarian from much—needed humanitarian assistance. from much-needed humanitarian assistance-— assistance. and 'ust as you describedh assistance. and 'ust as you described those _ assistance. and just as you described those conditions| described those conditions there, even for people who are healthy, if they are living in cramped conditions, if they are having to live in camps, for example, for displaced people, they don't have access to clean drinking water, this is when, even healthy people, can potentially become sick, isn't it? when we start to see the outbreak potentially of disease?— outbreak potentially of disease? ~ , ., , disease? absolutely. that is the fear- _ disease? absolutely. that is the fear. the _ disease? absolutely. that is the fear. the next _ disease? absolutely. that is the fear. the next step - disease? absolutely. that is the fear. the next step of i disease? absolutely. that is| the fear. the next step of all this crisis will be health outbreaks and issues in the population, which probably is already happening. without mentioning, as you said before, pregnant women — how will pregnant women — how will pregnant women — how will pregnant women deliver in this situation? when we speak about surgeries performed without anaesthetic or painkillers, or many other things. i can think about — i don't know, people
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with diabetes without insulin — how will they survive? the situation is really complicated. and there are, of course, different layers of complexity. but what we know is that, if you want to prevent the next step of health outbreaks, we need to intervene now. and these people — they don't have any more time. time for appeals and time for words — we need to have access. we need to have safe humanitarian access. and we need to bring humanitarian aid inside gaza as soon as possible, 2a/7, through the rafah bord, notjust a couple of trucks every day. tommaso, spokesperson for the international federation of red cross and red crescent societies, thank you so much for being with us.— for being with us. thank you. around the — for being with us. thank you. around the world _ for being with us. thank you. around the world and - for being with us. thank you. around the world and across| for being with us. thank you. i around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's take a look at some other stories making news: at least ten people were killed when two passenger trains collided in india on sunday. some 25 others were injured. it
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happened in the country's andhra pradesh state. one of the trains derailed when it was struck by an oncoming train. a preliminary investigation points to human error. russia has threatened to seize assets belonging to european countries if the eu carries out plans to donate russian state funds to ukraine. the eu confirmed on friday it's working on a scheme to take profits generated by invested money and use it for ukrainian reconstruction. billions of dollars of russian cash is held in european banks — much of it in european banks — much of it in belgium. the death toll from hurricane 0tis in the coastal resort of acapulco, mexico, continues to climb. a3 people are now confirmed to have died in the category 5 storm. 36 are still missing. members of the army havejoined still missing. members of the army have joined with recovery efforts. fueland army have joined with recovery efforts. fuel and clean drinking water are scarce, and residents have been queuing for food. you are live with bbc news. we can return now to our top story — the israel—gaza war. earlier,
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i spoke with the former and indeed first chief prosecutor of the international criminal court about the human rights challenges of this war. the past three weeks of this conflict has seen the killing of civilians in israel and the taking of hostages from israel. of course, as you know, it's of course, as you know, it's also seen the bombing and blockade of gaza, leading to the killing of palestinian civilians and the unfolding humanitarian catastrophe that we are witnessing now. you, of course, have prosecuted war crimes. what is your sense of what we're seeing? well, first, i'm not talking in the name of the current prosecutor — i am not in touch with him and i am just giving you my personal opinion based on my experience. however, i think it's very important he visit the place, he show his interest. and that signals how
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much people could be prosecuted — but israeli ministers, prime minister, generals — could also be prosecuted. that's the message he is sending them. it's a very courageous move. the prosecutor has a huge responsibility, and going there shows his commitment. the us, the uk, other— shows his commitment. the us, the uk, other allies _ shows his commitment. the us, the uk, other allies of _ shows his commitment. the us, the uk, other allies of israel i the uk, other allies of israel have said that israel has a right to defend itself following the attacks of october 7. the icc top prosecutor has said today, talking about that visit, that israel must conduct its operations under the laws of proportionality in relation to civilian buildings. is that happening, do you think, based on your experience?— on your experience? well, we need to investigate _ on your experience? well, we need to investigate each i on your experience? well, we need to investigate each of. on your experience? well, we | need to investigate each of the bombings to answer your question. but the prosecutor put the finger in something more broad. because the
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blockade fuel and gasoline — that itself could be a war crime, could be a crime against humanity, and even a genocide if the intention was to destroy the people in gaza. and that should be the three crimes that could be investigated. that is the message of the prosecutor. so with each bombing, each hospital, each killing should be investigated. but the point made — the general point — is the blockade itself is a big crime. and that's something we have to understand. the ministers in israel could be investigated.— ministers in israel could be investiuated. ~ ., ., investigated. what about when it comes to _ investigated. what about when it comes to hamas' _ investigated. what about when it comes to hamas' attack i investigated. what about when it comes to hamas' attack on l it comes to hamas' attack on the 7th of october? how might that be investigated and prosecuted?— prosecuted? yeah, the prosecutor _ prosecuted? yeah, the prosecutor was - prosecuted? yeah, the prosecutor was clear i prosecuted? yeah, the i prosecutor was clear that he could also investigate that
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crime, because the crime that was committed in israel was by palestinian people — therefore the prosecutor can investigate it, crimes in israel. but also, the crime was planned and partially executed in gaza. and gazais partially executed in gaza. and gaza is under the international criminal courtjurisdiction. for me, the good point the prosecutor is making is — people are discussing to pick sides. israeli side, palestinian side. the prosecutor is helping all of us to pick the side of the victims — israeli victims, gaza victims, palestinian victims. that is the enormous contribution. we are picking the victims, and we have to stop them now. it's not enough to punish punish the crime — we have to stop the crime. uk, us — have to stop the crimes now.
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there are crimes against humanity and could be a genocide. humanity and could be a genocide-— humanity and could be a renocide. �*, ., . ., genocide. let's touch a little bit more _ genocide. let's touch a little bit more on _ genocide. let's touch a little bit more on the _ genocide. let's touch a little bit more on the situation i bit more on the situation inside gaza. under international humanitarian law, hospitals are not targets — but israel alleges that hamas is using hospitals and using other civilian infrastructure as command centres with tunnels beneath them. does that make the situation more complicated at all under international humanitarian law?- at all under international humanitarian law? well, the renerals humanitarian law? well, the generals could _ humanitarian law? well, the generals could defend i generals could defend themselves before the court but, basically, it's time to prevent the crime. so before you shoot down hospitals, there's no proportionality there. you should find a different way to stop hamas. you cannot drop bombs in the hospital. notjust destroying the people inside — you're destroying the lives of the people in the blockade. these people in the blockade. these people in the blockade. these people in blockade — no food, no gasoline, no hospital now. you're asking them to move —
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how can they move with no gasoline? the main point i'm trying to make is, in addition to each individual incident, they say —— there's a general situation where these people are exterminated. that's a crime against humanity — extermination. 0r crime against humanity — extermination. or it could be genocide... extermination. or it could be genocide- - -— genocide... sorry. sir, israel would make _ genocide... sorry. sir, israel would make the _ genocide... sorry. sir, israel would make the point - genocide... sorry. sir, israel would make the point that i genocide... sorry. sir, israeli would make the point that they make every effort to protect civilians. they're saying that they're giving warning, telling people to move, for example, from the north to the south. well, but there's no gasoline. how can they move? they blocked the gasoline. that's why — look, i agree with you — each bombing should be investigated. that's why i'm not making any opinion on each bombing. but the general blockade of the food and the other essential elements — that already is a crime against humanity and could be a genocide. that is the point i'm trying to make. forgetting the middle incident — we will discuss each of them after. but the blockade itself
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is a crime against humanity or a genocide, and should be stopped today — now. i a genocide, and should be stopped today - now. i want to come back _ stopped today - now. i want to come back to _ stopped today - now. i want to come back to something i stopped today - now. i want to come back to something else l stopped today - now. i want to i come back to something else you said with regards to stopping this in the first place. western governments — the us, the uk — have deemed hamas a terrorist organisation. in your opinion, is there any way that israel can rid itself of the threat of hamas without war? specifically looking at the justice system, for example? is there anything they can do there? ., ., there anything they can do there? ., ~' ,, there anything they can do there? ., ,, i. ., there anything they can do there? . ~' i” ., i” there? thank you for your question- _ there? thank you for your question. because - there? thank you for your question. because that'sl there? thank you for your| question. because that's a crucial question. it's not necessary to invade gaza to control hamas. the leaders of hamas are not in gaza — some of them are in qatar. an israeli judge — not icc, the israeli judge — not icc, the israeli judge — not icc, the israeli judge — could order the rest of these people and start to have a change and stop the financing. we are dealing with organised crime here, with a terrorist group. the way to
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control them is not killing individuals — it's taking out the leaders who plan and organise and give the money. so it's a morejudicial organise and give the money. so it's a more judicial operation, a media operation. the war produces vengeance. justice stops vengeance. that's why it's so important. i stops vengeance. that's why it's so important.— it's so important. i 'ust want to “um it's so important. i 'ust want to jump in h it's so important. i 'ust want to jump in there, i it's so important. i just want to jump in there, because i it's so important. i just want i to jump in there, because we've really got less than 30 seconds left on the programme. you mentioned vengeance. ijust mentioned vengeance. i just wonder mentioned vengeance. ijust wonder if you're concerned about escalation spilling out in the wider region? flit about escalation spilling out in the wider region? of course. turke 's in the wider region? of course. turkey's saying _ in the wider region? of course. turkey's saying that. _ in the wider region? of course. turkey's saying that. syria i in the wider region? of course. turkey's saying that. syria is i turkey's saying that. syria is saying that. this could be real escalation — stop bombing, do justice. escalation - stop bombing, do 'ustice. ~ �* ., , justice. we'll of course continue _ justice. we'll of course continue to _ justice. we'll of course continue to follow i justice. we'll of course continue to follow the | justice. we'll of course i continue to follow the latest from israel and gaza here on bbc. we'll take a live look now at southern israel towards the gaza border. you're watching bbc news. thanks for your company. stay with us if you can. bye for now.
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hello there. it's going to stay very unsettled across the uk as we head through this week with low pressure still very much in charge. so, long spells of rain, heavy, thundery downpours. the winds are likely to pick up at times. and we'll also see, on wednesday night into thursday, our third named storm of the season, storm ciaran, named by the met office on sunday. and those rainfall totals are really going to start to stack up again as we head through the next five days — you can see all the blues on our rainfall accumulation chart here. more wet weather for flood—stricken areas, such as eastern parts of scotland, too. now, low pressure is centred out towards the west of ireland, just sending bands of showers swirling around. it should be a largely dry start to the day across scotland but it is quite a chilly one and it's still quite breezy for many, particularly towards the channel coast. but the winds are certainly lightening as we head throughout the day. now, the heaviest of the showers on monday will tend to be across northern ireland. we could start to see some localised flooding, maybe, as those rainfall totals stack up. also, some more heavy showers across western wales, the southwest of england towards channel coast, too, just drifting further northwards and eastwards. further east, largely dry.
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and for scotland, the lion's share of the sunshine north of the central belt. but here, the air is going to feel chillier. now, on tuesday, again, scotland, still a welcome respite from all of that rain. it should stay largely dry and sunny. a few isolated showers in the north. elsewhere, out towards the west, we will see some showers, some brighter spells and a warm front starts to creep into southwest wales and south—west england by the end of the day on tuesday. temperatures again 9—15 degrees celsius. now, that warm front will track further northwards and eastwards as we head through tuesday night and into wednesday, bringing with it widespread heavy rain and some strong, gusty winds as well. and some of that rain in the chillier air across the highlands will be turning to snow. just take a look at that easterly wind piling all of that rain onshore into aberdeenshire yet again. it's windy out towards the west here. further south, we're expecting some showers. temperatures again 9—15 degrees. but of more concern than the weather on wednesday is going to be the
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weather on thursday. now, this is storm ciaran. it's a very deep area of low pressure. you can see the tight squeeze on the isobars here. gusts of wind towards channel coasts on wednesday night and into thursday could get as high as perhaps 80—90 miles an hour, even inland 50—60 mile an hour gusts. there'll also be widespread heavy rain along with those damaging winds, so do keep an eye on the forecast. bye—bye for now.
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