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these are the headlines. the israeli military says a soldier has been freed, rescued from captivity during that ground operation in gaza. israel said that she was abducted on the 7th of october. video appearing to show three women being held hostage. as real�*s prime minister described it as a cruel, propaganda. every civilised nation should stand with israel in demanding that these hostages be freed immediately and freed unconditionally. the hostages be freed immediately and freed unconditionally.— freed unconditionally. the israeli military says _ freed unconditionally. the israeli military says it — freed unconditionally. the israeli military says it has _ freed unconditionally. the israeli military says it has hit _ freed unconditionally. the israeli military says it has hit 600 - freed unconditionally. the israeli. military says it has hit 600 hummus targets as it expands its operation in gaza. so let's stay with events in gaza. so let's stay with events in the middle east. the war in
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israel and gaza. ijust want in the middle east. the war in israel and gaza. i just want to show you pictures that we are getting in. the latest from southern israel looking into northern gaza as we touched on in the headlines there. if you're telling us it is expanding its assault deeper into the northern gaza strip. wejust had its assault deeper into the northern gaza strip. we just had a little earlier from an gaza strip. we just had a little earlierfrom an idf gaza strip. we just had a little earlier from an idf spokesperson reiterating that with artillery, with tanks and with ground troops, but also from ships in the sea and with missiles, they are continuing their operations in gaza. the stated aim of that, of course, as we have been told, is to prevent hamas from having capability of launching any further attacks on israel. but, of course, a lot of discussion right now around international law and the terms of use of military force. the director of the un agency for palestinian refugees in gaza, that is thomas white, has told the bbc that civilian sheltering in
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hospitals and un facilities like schools must be protected by all parties under international law. israel, for its part, and says that it is following the law and has a right to self—defence. well, let's talk now to the associate professor at rutgers university, legal scholar and human rights attorney. thank you for being with us. i want to start with that thought, if you will, because there's been a lot of criticism of some of israel's actions, particularly when it comes to the apparent targeting of hospitals. we havejust heard to the apparent targeting of hospitals. we have just heard from the idf, reiterating that claim that the idf, reiterating that claim that the hospital, specifically one particular hospital, is being used as a human shield to hide some of its operations including the hamas headquarters. all the while, there are civilians in that hospital, civilians who we are told cannot evacuate because they are in intensive care. just remind us what the law is. international humanitarian law, that should protect those patients in a place of apparent safety.
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protect those patients in a place of apparent safety-— protect those patients in a place of apparent safety. thank you. let's be clear, first and _ apparent safety. thank you. let's be clear, first and foremost. _ apparent safety. thank you. let's be clear, first and foremost. it - apparent safety. thank you. let's be clear, first and foremost. it sure - clear, first and foremost. it sure does not have the right against self defence against territory that it occupies because it has served those policing powers from the occupied people and has a duty to protect them. second a bulk of it is to use this armed forces has to use it within the bounds of international law, mainly the principles of distinction and proportionality. israel has been very clear that it is using indiscriminate force. that it doesn't consider any of the palestinian civilians, the israeli spokesperson has been very explicit, that it spokesperson has been very explicit, thatitis spokesperson has been very explicit, that it is not focused on, that it is dropping tonnes of bombs because it is focused on destruction, not accuracy. this is indiscriminate in their own words. it is also disproportionate. because they have dropped the equivalent of a nuclear bomb over the past 23 days and have not achieved its military objectives
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that a tremendous amount of civilian harm including more than 8000 palestinian civilians dead, 3000 of whom are children. regardless of all of this, we've had the israeli military tailored specifically that it has the specific intent to commit genocide, as it does not consider any of the palestinians as civilians. they are in human animals. they are animals altogether. the israeli president said that they are not civilians, that there would be hell and we also see their specific underlying facts that would constitute both elements of the genocide convention to tell us that this is not a war of precision. this is not a war targeting hamas. this is a way that is targeting all palestinians, that is targeting all palestinians, that is intent through removal by ethnic cleansing and it is tantamount to genocide and it does not meet the bounds of self—defence. it is not proportionate, it is not
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discriminate and on top of it is genocidal. this is illegal and must be ended unequivocally. i want to, to decide the many points that you raise them just a second. first of all, you are making the point that it has achieved very little, this ground incursion, these ground operation that has launched into gaza. the israeli military would say, actually, scored a success tonight and has been able to rescue a female soldier in gaza who was taken hostage by hamas on the 7th of october. ,, . ., , taken hostage by hamas on the 7th of october. ,, . . , ., , ., october. quite clearly, that is an im ortant october. quite clearly, that is an important win — october. quite clearly, that is an important win for _ october. quite clearly, that is an important win for the _ october. quite clearly, that is an important win for the israeli - important win for the israeli authorities and the israeli defence force. on that they would hope to replicate, to secure the release of the more than 200 hostages who are still unaccounted for. the sir, you just told me that they rescued one soldier, in exchange for demolishing a third of the hospitals in gaza. in exchange for attacking 29 un schools and gaza put up in exchange for killing 8000 people. in exchange for
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killing 8000 people. in exchange for killing 3000 children. in exchange for now 130 babies in the neck you who might die because of a lack of electricity and fuel in gaza.- electricity and fuel in gaza. there is no proportionality _ electricity and fuel in gaza. there is no proportionality between - electricity and fuel in gaza. ii—ii” is no proportionality between the rescue of one soldier and that amount of harm. it is disproportionate on its face. we that logic of ezra tabasco 200 hostages, that is tantamount to that, they would have to kill another 16,000 palestinians, actually that would be more. if a mod by 200 by 8000. this is not proportionate. we should remember that israel was able... four hostages were released through diplomatic negotiations mediated by qatar and egypt which shows this is not a measure of last resort. there are diplomatic means available. temperament is also said it will release all of the hostages in exchange for all palestinian prisoners, which the families of the israeli hostages have said, we want
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is real, the government, to represent them in this. i want to finally add that, on this point, we should remember, when you mention hospitals, israel has used the talking points that the hospitals are used as weapons depots or military headquarters, she said so i urge alljournalists to exercise an incredible amount of scepticism. as you said this in 2006 and its excursion and the banana. human rights watch found that was not verified. said this again in 2014 during its 51 day bombardment. we have to be sceptical in this moment. we cannot take what military officials are telling us. they were not admitted to war crimes. they have to be prosecuted for war crimes. they have to be tried for war crimes. crimes. they have to be tried for war crimes-_ war crimes. that is a question i want to ask _ war crimes. that is a question i want to ask you, _ war crimes. that is a question i want to ask you, actually. - war crimes. that is a question i want to ask you, actually. it. war crimes. that is a question i want to ask you, actually. it is | want to ask you, actually. it is important to you because you're right to raise the issue of
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proportionality and whether this is a proportionate response. we know, for example, china's foreign minister said this has gone beyond the bounds of self—defence. it also, israel stakes its claim. it says it is entitled to do this. it has been bombing gaza since the 7th of october because hamas killed 1400 people and kidnapped more than 200 hostages. they say this is their claim to self—defence. you disagree. it is notjust i disagree. legal scholars disagree. human rights advocates disagree. it is not up to the state to define with the bounds of self—defence are. there is a tremendous amount ofjurisprudence tremendous amount of jurisprudence to tremendous amount ofjurisprudence to define this and a tremendous amount of literature that has debated this. states are bound by international law and, in this case, the very minimum is that they are bound by proportionality and a distinction between civilians and combatants which telling us they are not doing. they have told us that they are imposing a complete siege,
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denial of electricity, fuel, water, food. they have admitted they are engaging in collective punishment. they have expressed genocidal intent. where there are no palestinian civilians, according to them. this is not a new tribe but colonial powers have done this historically. in 1935, when fascist italy led by mr linney invaded ethiopian they said the same things about ethiopians hiding in hospitals. they said... the red cross at the same things about ethiopians, that they were barbaric. i want to ask you, and i am sorry to interrupt but time is tight so i just want to ask you this, given the work that you do, how difficult is it to collect evidence? to make sure that if war crimes had been committed by either side here, that the evidence is gathered and then prosecutors can follow? because we know, often the sorts of war crimes only come to light after they have been committed. that
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only come to light after they have been committed.— only come to light after they have been committed. that is an excellent ruestion been committed. that is an excellent question and — been committed. that is an excellent question and that _ been committed. that is an excellent question and that is _ been committed. that is an excellent question and that is actually - been committed. that is an excellent question and that is actually the - question and that is actually the primary obstacle because israel has prevented human rights defenders from entering. they prevented the entrance of the un special representatives from completing the reports and they said that they are calling for everybody to boycott the united nations because they passed on friday a general assembly resolution calling for humanitarian pause. there are actually impeding investigation. they called for a boycott of an international criminal court and refused to accede to it in contrast to palestine which did accede to it in 2015 and even hamas agreed. so if there is difficulty in collecting this evidence it is because a state that has been determined to be a rogue state, israel, by the international community, we have to understand that we can't even perform the
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bounds of rule—based order, rules of engagement to see whether or not they were followed because israel is impeding an investigation. they have shown that they are unwilling and unable to investigate themselves. they're showing that they are not respecting international law and it is imperative, upon an international community, to apply the red line is that the united states said it would not impose upon is real. i5 that the united states said it would not impose upon is real.— not impose upon is real. is good to have ou not impose upon is real. is good to have you with _ not impose upon is real. is good to have you with us _ not impose upon is real. is good to have you with us tonight. - not impose upon is real. is good to have you with us tonight. thank. not impose upon is real. is good to i have you with us tonight. thank you. around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news.
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the government says it is making £276 million available this academic year which universities can use a top up their own hardship schemes were top on top of increases to student loans. the university of exeter told as it aims to keep student vans as low as possible. and says it offers additional support to those who needed foot of the department for education says the student loan system prioritises support for people in the lowest income families but, from speaking to people here today, it certainly seems that more and more students are struggling to make ends meet. for more across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you are watching bbc news website. you are watching bbc news. even the uk, prime minister richie sunak has chaired an emergency cobra meeting to discuss the situation in israel and gaza and the situation in israel and gaza and the impact on communities in the uk. senior ministers, police chiefs and
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security officials met to assess the threat posed by what they refer to as domestic terrorism. for now the joint terrorism analysis centre has decided to maintain the threat level of international terror at substantial. the home secretary suella braverman spoke after that meeting and described london's pro—palestinian marchers as hate marches. irate pro-palestinian marchers as hate marches. ~ ., pro-palestinian marchers as hate marches. ~ . , ., , ., marches. we have seen now tens of thousands of _ marches. we have seen now tens of thousands of people _ marches. we have seen now tens of thousands of people take _ marches. we have seen now tens of thousands of people take to - marches. we have seen now tens of thousands of people take to the - thousands of people take to the streets following the massacre of jewish people. the single largest loss ofjewish life since the holocaust, chanting for the erasure of israel from the map. to my mind, there's only one way to describe those marches. they hate marches. the view that of suella braverman. let's speak now to a lecture on terrorism and radicalisation at the war studies department of king's couegein war studies department of king's college in london. thank you for being with us. there is a lot to pick there. and it really does underline, doesn't it? just a far—reaching consequences of that
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conflict in the middle east. talk to me, first of all, about the difficulty around policing some of this. because we know more than ever this. because we know more than ever this is a war that has been fought on the ground. it also come online. particularly in the realms of social media. explain difficulty of policing that.— media. explain difficulty of olicin: that. . ~ policing that. welcome i think olicin: it policing that. welcome i think policing it on _ policing that. welcome i think policing it on the _ policing that. welcome i think policing it on the ground - policing that. welcome i think policing it on the ground is . policing it on the ground is incredibly difficult. unfortunately, the marches that the home secretary referred to, i think unfairly, as hate marches, and whole, think many, many people attending those marches perhaps would have had more legitimate pro—palestinian positions but i would urge people to look at the organisers of these marches. many of whom have
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long—standing connections to hamas and backers of support and otherwise praise for hamas. so i would urge anyone who attends those marches to take quite seriously and look at who is actually organising them and make sure they are not part of that type of march. online, incredibly difficult to police. firstly, some of the platforms, and obscenities, the most extreme we've seen since october seven, there are not platforms that are police bill. they're not bad from subject to law and cannot be shut down very easily, particularly telegram, sort of private and difficult to access our main platform and it has no real relationships with governments and doesn't really get censored. it doesn't really get censored. it doesn't remove extreme material. ai generated images have become very normal way for anti—semites to produce very accessible, quite quality anti—semitic propaganda and imagery which only contributes and increases the atmosphere of hatred since october seven. the police and the government can liaise more with tech companies and they do that but on the whole, we have to accept that it is not possible to entirely police them. there are still easily
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accessible and contain some of the most extreme and shocking anti—semitic imagery and discussions you can imagine. fine anti-semitic imagery and discussions you can imagine-— anti-semitic imagery and discussions you can imagine. one of the words at the centre of— you can imagine. one of the words at the centre of this _ you can imagine. one of the words at the centre of this dispute _ you can imagine. one of the words at the centre of this dispute right - you can imagine. one of the words at the centre of this dispute right now i the centre of this dispute right now is the word jihad. we know scotland yard has faced criticism for not acting against those so called jihad acting against those so called jihad a chance on some of those protest foot of the head of the crown prosecution service pointing out that actually, calling forjihad is not an automatic hate crime and it is about that interpretation in the moment. and that is where there is perhaps some sort of grey area that proves to be particularly difficult to police. proves to be particularly difficult to olice. , ., , to police. yes. for most people, you know, to police. yes. for most people, you know. who — to police. yes. for most people, you know. who are _ to police. yes. for most people, you know, who are watching _ to police. yes. for most people, you know, who are watching there - to police. yes. for most people, you know, who are watching there so - to police. yes. for most people, you know, who are watching there so i i know, who are watching there so i don't follow this to close the, who are not, perhaps, don't have a huge understanding of islam, they hear jihad and hear violence and terrorism. for many conservative muslims the word jihad specifically means physicalfighting. there would be very few conservative muslims who
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would deny that. however, the context matters. i think in this case, a lot of the calls from jihad came from gives you very specifically explained to us what they mean byjihad. thejihad chant you are referring to came from supporters of that group. that is a very reactionary, extremist group that supports violentjihad against jewish people and against israel. i think if you have members of those groups that those valley saying that you can be pretty confident they are calling for violence. on the whole. .. calling for violence. on the whole... i5 calling for violence. on the whole- - -— calling for violence. on the whole... , ., ., whole... is not the point, though, actually question _ whole... is not the point, though, actually question why _ whole... is not the point, though, actually question why people - whole... is not the point, though, actually question why people say. actually question why people say doesn't matter what the is, it is about to be inferred or the implied meaning that is so damaging and so dangerous? meaning that is so damaging and so dancerous? , , ., dangerous? yes, but inferred and imlied dangerous? yes, but inferred and implied may _ dangerous? yes, but inferred and implied may not _ dangerous? yes, but inferred and implied may not stand _ dangerous? yes, but inferred and implied may not stand up - dangerous? yes, but inferred and implied may not stand up in - dangerous? yes, but inferred and| implied may not stand up in court. you know, unfortunately, well, fortunately or unfortunately, according to your view, how much further we should restrict free speech, you can take another, in this country, you can glorify
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terrorism as long as you don't specifically call for it or instigated. i know that might be a straight line for some people but you say things that glorify specific attacks and events without breaking the law. that might be grossly offensive and morally bankrupt thing to do but it isn't illegal. i'm not sure should be made illegal. we already have quite a few restrictions on speech. i think in most cases that have angered people over the last couple of days and weeks, actually, there are already laws in place that should make it possible to at least think about charging people. instigating racial hatred againstjewish people. i want hatred against jewish people. i want our hatred against jewish people. i want your thoughts- _ hatred against jewish people. i want your thoughts. we've _ hatred against jewish people. i want your thoughts. we've been - hatred againstjewish people. i want your thoughts. we've been showing people there's pictures a little earlier of 60 people who were arrested. this in southern russia. a group of people stormed an airport. they say they were looking for israeli citizens because they knew that a flight was coming and it was due to land from tel aviv. shouting anti—semitic slogans. and it appears that mum was incited on social
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media. and, once again, that is the issue, isn't it, here? that there is so much of the second spread on social media. almost without the scrutiny of a big organised protest in a big city. this stuff isjust there and as you have touched on, things like ai and technology is making that information and some of those incitements to hate crimes able to spread much more quickly. yes. i think the images in the video we've seen at the airport, incredibly concerning and upsetting and it really harks back to the kind of programmes that that region is unfortunately very familiar with. and i think what we're seeing here in general is the tip of the iceberg. it is the actual physical manifestation of a growing anti—semitism online. i think it is probably more widespread than it has been for very long time. a lot of
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people hold anti—semitic views without actually realising they do. what i would say in general, anti—semitism, for the viewers, take this seriously. it is the canary in the coal mine for extremism. if there after the jewish the coal mine for extremism. if there after thejewish people, thereafter you very quickly. be concerned about your own safety in your own countries. i'd make a sobering thought. thank you for being with us on programme tonight. thank you. thank you. i tobacco just a time to give you a couple of lines was that this is the scene in northern gaza taken from southern israel. irate northern gaza taken from southern israel. ~ . , northern gaza taken from southern israel. ~ ., , ., ., , israel. we have seen a developing there. israel. we have seen a developing there- just — israel. we have seen a developing there- just a _ israel. we have seen a developing there. just a few— israel. we have seen a developing there. just a few new _ israel. we have seen a developing there. just a few new lines - israel. we have seen a developing there. just a few new lines from i israel. we have seen a developing i there. just a few new lines from the united nations. the aid agency that works with palestinians is warning that further breaks down on civil order will make it extremely difficult, they say, if not impossible, for that aid agency to continue operating. bbc news continues. there is the latest
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developments as far as events in the middle east are concerned. we've just been following that white house press briefing and were getting the latest lines in terms of the pressure that the united states is putting on as we are to avoid civilian deaths. we are also following events at the un. that is further emergency meeting is getting under way to discuss the humanitarian situation in gaza. we know that some aid is able to get through but there is very little making it to those who need it most. even hearing throughout the programme of the worsening humanitarian situation and we have a testimony of some people who have made that perilous journey from the north of gaza to the south. adding further sales and they have now chosen to return to the north. so let's just bring you the latest that we are getting from the un's aid agency that is working with palestinians in gaza. as i said, warning that further breakdown in
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civil order will make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for them to operating. this is that statement. let's have a listen. when a lot of the — statement. let's have a listen. when a lot of the focus _ statement. let's have a listen. when a lot of the focus is _ statement. let's have a listen. when a lot of the focus is on _ statement. let's have a listen. when a lot of the focus is on gaza, - statement. let's have a listen. when a lot of the focus is on gaza, i - a lot of the focus is on gaza, i wish to reiterate that it is unfolding in the west bank, at least 150 palestinians have been killed since october seven, including... the movement restriction imposed across the west bank, including schools and health centres, meanwhile, the situation on the israeli border is getting worse with regular exchanges of fires and civilian casualties were reported.
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in conclusion, i am very worried about the potential spill—over of this conflict beyond gaza, unless something is enforced. first strict adherence to international law. this means civilian and civilian infrastructure, including un premises, schools, hospitals, places of worship and shelters hosting civilians, must be protected all over the gaza strip, north and south and at all times. this is not an option. it is an obligation. secondly, we need save unimpeded substantial and continuous flow of humanitarian aid including fuel, into the gaza strip and across it. for this, we need an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. we have the necessary presence from the ground. we can deliver if we have the means
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and the resources, including the finances, to play stuff on the front lines. we have received a general contribution from its appeal. we cannot pay salaries and deliver. finally, it does important we do not lose sight of our humanity. this applies to all, palestinian, israeli, jewish, christian and muslim. the rules of law, of war must be followed by all parties at all times, in all places. civilians must be protected, hostages released and genuine humanitarian response facilitated. a ceasefire has become a matter of life and death for millions. the present and future palestinian and israeli depend on it. i urge all member states to change the trajectory of this crisis
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and walk towards a genuine political solution before it is too late. thank you. solution before it is too late. thank you-— solution before it is too late. thank ou. ., , ., _ thank you. that is the un agency workin: thank you. that is the un agency working with _ thank you. that is the un agency working with palestinians. - thank you. that is the un agency working with palestinians. a - thank you. that is the un agency l working with palestinians. a severe warning that they will find it almost impossible to continue their work in the territory given the breakdown of civil order there. addressing, as you can see, the united nations. their meeting for an emergency meeting. there is increasing criticism of the role that the un is able are seemingly unable to play in the conflict. all of this, though, coming on the same day that the israeli military says it is made to secure the release of a female soldier in gaza who was taken hostage on the 7th of october. but equally coming as hamas released a video of three hostages tonight that are currently being held. there is increasing pressure on the role of israel and the impact on those hostages. more to come on bbc news.
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hello. this week's big weather story is likely to be storm ciaran, named by the met office, expected to bring widespread heavy rain, exacerbating the risk of flooding. also damaging winds most likely in the south of england and the channel islands through wednesday night and on into thursday. in the shorter term, a met office amber warning across south eastern parts of northern ireland to take us through tonight and into the first part of tomorrow. heavy and persistent rain here could well bring the risk of further flooding. you can see that wet weather really setting in, as we head through the night. a band of showery rain also moving its way across wales and the midlands, up into parts of northern england and east anglia, as we go towards the end of the night. now, behind that band of rain, we'll see some slightly clearer skies developing, clear skies too across parts of scotland, which will allow temperatures to drop below freezing in some sheltered parts of the highlands. but here we should see some sunshine during tomorrow, albeit with a scattering of showers in the north where you're exposed to that north or north—easterly breeze.
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this band of showery rain across northern ireland and northern england, that will tend to weaken a little as the day wears on. then a slice of sunshine and showers, and then another band of rain into the south west of england. another frontal system, this one pushing its way north—eastward, as we head through tuesday night and into wednesday. outbreaks of heavy rain with that. could briefly be some snow over high ground in the north of scotland. it's going to turn windy as well, for coasts of wales, the south west of england and also in the north of scotland. and temperatures, six degrees in lerwick, 14 for plymouth, london, norwich and st helier. and then as we move through wednesday night and into thursday, this is where we have real cause for concern, this very deep area of low pressure named storm ciaran. still some uncertainty about the exact track of this storm system. it is most likely to pass across the south of england and wales, certainly in terms of the centre of the low. but the rain will be quite widespread for many areas. strongest winds look most likely to be down towards the south, maybe 50 to 60 mile per hour gusts inland, 80 mile per hour gusts for english channel coasts, possibly touching 90 miles per hour in the most exposed parts, and perhaps more especially across the channel islands, with the risk of damage and disruption. and it does stay very unsettled
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the context on bbc news. the headlines... ladies and gentlemen, the bible says that there is a time for peace and a time for war. i that there is a time for peace and a time for war-— that there is a time for peace and a time for war. i am personally asking ou, time for war. i am personally asking you. president _ time for war. i am personally asking you, president biden, _ time for war. i am personally asking you, president biden, please - time for war. i am personally asking you, president biden, please do - time for war. i am personally asking j you, president biden, please do any and everything in your power to bring _ and everything in your power to bring everyone home now. two thirds ofthe bring everyone home now. two thirds of the population _ bring everyone home now. two thirds of the population are _ bring everyone home now. two thirds of the population are in _ bring everyone home now. two thirds of the population are in this _ of the population are in this southern _ of the population are in this southern part— of the population are in this southern part of— of the population are in this southern part of gaza, - of the population are in this southern part of gaza, a - of the population are in thisl southern part of gaza, a city of the population are in this - southern part of gaza, a city where they are _ southern part of gaza, a city where they are living _ southern part of gaza, a city where they are living for— southern part of gaza, a city where they are living for 23 _ southern part of gaza, a city where they are living for 23 or _ southern part of gaza, a city where they are living for 23 or 24 - southern part of gaza, a city where they are living for 23 or 24 days - they are living for 23 or 24 days now _ they are living for 23 or 24 days now without _ they are living for 23 or 24 days now without water, _ they are living for 23 or 24 days now without water, without - now without water, without electricity _ now without water, without electricity and _ now without water, without electricity and without - now without water, without l electricity and without proper now without water, without - electricity and without proper food. the flow _ electricity and without proper food. the flow of— electricity and without proper food. the flow of aid _ electricity and without proper food. the flow of aid into _ electricity and without proper food. the flow of aid into gaza _ electricity and without proper food. the flow of aid into gaza will- electricity and without proper food. the flow of aid into gaza will fail. the flow of aid into gaza will fail unless there is a concerted effort on humanitarian needs. israel says it's rescued a female
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