tv Newsnight BBC News November 6, 2023 10:30pm-11:11pm GMT
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time for a look at the weather. here's darren bett. hello. things are a bit different overnight tonight, not quite as colourful quite so widely, not so much solar activity around overnight but we have seen the northern lights, here in northern parts of scotland which is not that unusual, actually. some clearer skies are still around overnight. some showers, too. gradually through the night, showers will tend to die back towards the western areas. where we have the clearer skies in north—east scotland, temperatures close to freezing. it will be a chilly start tomorrow in the clearer skies in south—east england. tomorrow, a scattering of showers, mostly in scotland, in the far west of the northern isles, fewer showers than today in northern ireland, a westerly breeze pushing the showers
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further east into england and wales but very few will reach east anglia and the south—east. temperatures 11-13, and the south—east. temperatures 11—13, pretty similar to what we had today. i want to take you back across the atlantic, though, because this mass of cloud is really looking quite threatening. this is a band of cloud and rain, of course. that will come scooting across the atlantic into the uk on tuesday night and wednesday morning. the un says gaza is becoming a "graveyard for children". the israeli defence force will enter gaza city within the next 48 hours according to reports in israli media. what happens after that?
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israeli troops say they have essentially split the gaza strip into two — and they have encircled gaza city in the north. we'll talk to the secretary general of the norwegian refugee counciljan egerland who was involved in the oslo peace accords in the 90s. tonight, hundreds of israelis injerusalem have gathered to mark the 30 days since 1,400 people were massacred by hamas. this woman's mother was taken hostage by hamas and then freed two weeks ago — her father is still being held. also tonight, the rise of anti—semitism and islamaphobia on some uk university campuses since october 7th. it's not like we have a choice being jewish. like, once we're born a jew, we're always a jew, we're in our community, all of our friends and family are jewish, and the fact that you know, people go out of their way
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to attack us purely because who we are. and it's the king's speech tomorrow. nick is here with a preview. no restrictions — for now — on the use of tents by homeless people. what does that mean for rishi sunak�*s relationship with suella braverman? we've two political brains on standby to discuss what exactly might change rishi sunak�*s fortunes. israeli troops says they have essentially split the gaza strip into two — north and south gaza and they have encircled gaza city in the north. according to reports in the israeli media, troops will enter the city in the next two days. hamas, which is designated a terror group by the uk government, claims there was intense bombing around gaza's largest hospital which israel says it operates as the group's headquarters — something denied by the hospital authorities. a group of un humanitarian agencies and charities have said the "horrific killings" of civilians in gaza are an "outrage".
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thousands of children are believed to be among the dead — and the hamas run health ministry reported today that more than 10,000 people have now been killed in gaza. israel's air strikes are in retaliation to hamas�*s killing of moo people in southern israel on october 7th. injersualem today, relatives of those israelis abducted by hamas have gathered outside the knesset — calling on the government to do more to get their loved ones home. here'sjoe. this is the ground war as israel wants it to be seen. idf forces moving slowly, carefully, to cut off gaza city in the north from the rest of the strip. last night they announced they'd made it all the way to the sea, encircling the main population centre. many of the civilians who once lived here fled, but hundreds of thousands are thought to remain. and this is the picture
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hamas wants to present. the group, designated a terrorist organisation by the uk government and many others, released this footage. the on—screen text claims they're destroying israeli armoured vehicles, emerging from tunnels to strike. it's a big challenge. no one is experienced to fight in an area which was so well prepared. many years. it's not mosul which was kind of immediate arrangement. no, it's 15 years preparations of hamas. and part of it is underground on purpose and we are facing a challenge and we are dealing with it. dealing with it partly with overwhelming firepower. israel released these images showing what appears to be surgical strikes, dropping individual buildings. but to those on the ground the operation looks anything but surgical.
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the gaza strip is being reduced to rubble. the hamas run health ministry says more than 10,000 people have now been killed in the air strikes. even areas where people were told to head for safety are being hit. this was khan younis earlier today. translation: no one here was accused of anything. i all these people. i provided them with water. coming out from their homes, it's devastating to see. they were all children, women and children. really, nobody else. israel accuses hamas of using civilians as human shields, something that they deny. either way, children are often the ones paying the price. translation: we were on our way| to buy almonds and on the way back
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we were called by an israeli strike on the corner of the street and all the rubble fell on us. that's what happened to us. i can't bear it any more. the growing civilian cost is leading to increased international pressure, either for a pause in the fighting orfor a full ceasefire. gaza is becoming a graveyard for children. hundreds of girls and boys are reportedly being killed or injured every day. and the unfolding catastrophe makes the need for a humanitarian ceasefire more urgent with every passing hour. there are groups inside israel also calling for a pause in the fighting but for different reasons. today at the parliament building, the knesset, the family and friends of the more than 240 people taken hostage gathered. they want the government to focus less on destroying hamas and more on bringing them home.
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the hostages, this is the first thing, they need to bring them back now, before everything, before the war, before everything. they need to bring them back now, all the hostages, because this is, they are the people of israel and they are responsible for them. but this is a country still in mourning for the atrocities carried out on october the 7th. this war is being directed by anger as much as anything else. in israel there is no mood for compromise. hamas is history. it will not exist in the gaza strip as an organisation. we will not let it come back. it should be understood, even if it will take a year to clean the gaza strip, we will continue the whole deal. but in the end it will be clear, hamas will not exist as an organisation, as a military
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organisation, not in gaza strip, not anywhere in the world. tonight at the western wall, one ofjudaism's holiest sites, 1,400 candles were lit. benny gantz, a leader opposition figure, now in the war cabinet, joined the crowds. the events of october the 7th shook this country to its foundations. 30 days have now passed. in the jewish faith that holds a special significance. it often marks the end of the official period of mourning. but there is no sign of this nation's mourning ending nor the rage unleashed on the people of gaza. just before we came on air, i spoke to the secretary general of the norwegian refugee counciljan egerland, who was involved in the oslo peace accords in the early 90s. he told me what the situation was like on the ground for his 54
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members of staff in gaza: members of staff in gaza. it's like they are all in a free—fall at moment, it couldn't be more traumatic. i have ten, 11 colleagues in the north, that is now cut off from the majority of the colleagues who fled south. but in all of these places, it is not safe, there is no real access to food, water, or supplies, and the fear, the fear is everywhere. and in terms of their ability to provide effective humanitarian aid for palestinians, how is that? it's very limited, because of the insecurity. i mean many are fleeing for their lives as it is. remember, gaza is like no other place. it's smaller than the municipality of oslo, where i am, with three times the population. it's locked up, they cannot leave, and they have been under siege now for a month. nothing really has got
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into the gaza in this period. president biden has spoken again to the prime minister of israel, today, again emphasising the need to reduce civilian harm, and they discussed tactical pauses, but those calls again appear to have failed. why do you think that is? because the israeli government, the israeli army doesn't want to get us the humanitarian ceasefire, the pause, the humanitarian corridor, the humanitarian access. there hasn't even been a lifting of the siege of gaza, so we are very disappointed, to put it mildly, in the us, the united kingdom, france, germany, the european union, that have all, you know, pledged, promised us to have this protection of civilians, the humanitarian access, humanitarian process for a month. we've got none of it,
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really and it is incomprehensible those whoa are providing arms for all of this, political support, intelligence, etc, are not even able to get the smallest humanitarian pause when the children are dying in their thousands in gaza. you will have heard among members of the israeli government and the israeli defense force, and others, like hillary clinton, for example, who, when you talk about a cease fire say people who are calling for a ceasefire now do not understand hamas, that is not possible, a ceasefire would be such a gift to hamas. what do you say to that? what i say to them, that even in war on terror there are rules. you cannot crush hundreds of thousands of children because there would be killers hiding among them. it's not legal and it's not in the interest of israel to create generations of hatred and bitterness
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and suffering in the neighbourhood. they might argue, very much, that it is rational, after hamas, they argue, hamas broke the ceasefire, on october 7th, and essentially went into southern israel and killed pretty much any israeli person they could see. and they point out again and again, that hamas is the reason this is happening. what happened on the 7th october was horrific. 1,400 israelis were killed, the vast majority of them were civilians. they are holding well over 200 hostages that should be released — these are children, women, etc, but what about the innocent that are suffering? it is those who are dying in the thousands, are not grown men, they are children, they are women, these are the innocent, so this is disproportionate, there is no distinction
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between civilians and armed men, and there is not the precaution that international law subscribes to. that is why the un and all humanitarian organisations are calling for a humanitarian ceasefire. well, they are ignoring you. so far, so is israel, by the way, ignoring president biden, and your prime minister sunak, etc, and i thought that israel was pretending to be much better than their opponent. they were supposed to shield the civilian population. now they have even turned off electricity, they turned off water. when putin did that in ukraine, it was a war crime. all of the western powers said. how come it is not so when it is on palestinian children?
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mr egeland, thank you for very much for talking to our audience tonight here in the uk, we appreciate it. thank you. almost a month ago, along with over 200 other people, 85—year—old yohevet and 83—year—old oded lifschitz were taken hostage by hamas. 17 days later later, yohevet was freed by them — and you may remember she held the hand of the hamas operative as she left and said "shalom". her daughter sharone was on this programme days before her mother was released and she's back with us now. thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank ou thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you for— thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you for talking _ thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you for talking to _ thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you for talking to us, _ thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you for talking to us, how - thank you welcome back to newsnight. thank you for talking to us, how is - thank you for talking to us, how is your mum? my thank you for talking to us, how is your mum?— thank you for talking to us, how is our mum? ~ , , , your mum? my mum is getting better eve da , your mum? my mum is getting better every day. she _ your mum? my mum is getting better every day. she is _ your mum? my mum is getting better every day, she is really _ your mum? my mum is getting better every day, she is really remarkably i every day, she is really remarkably herself, having been through this ordeal. that is wonderful, she is a
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ray of light but there is great darkness around it, seeing this report is heartbreaking, knowing the 242 people for my region are still held captive, is horrific, so while she is a ray of light, the situation is incredibly dark. has she been changed by her experience at all? i has she been changed by her experience at all?— has she been changed by her experience at all? i think her core beliefs have _ experience at all? i think her core beliefs have not _ experience at all? i think her core beliefs have not shifted. - experience at all? i think her core beliefs have not shifted. she - experience at all? i think her core l beliefs have not shifted. she fought all her life to create a place between the river and the sea that is shared by both people. she feels just the same now. she said to me a few days ago that we made peace with the germans and we will have to make peace with the palestinians. i think having just being the victim of this
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and still holding this belief, she's very much feeling that there is no alternative. very much feeling that there is no alternative-— very much feeling that there is no alternative. ., ., ., , alternative. you will have heard us re ”ortin alternative. you will have heard us reporting tonight _ alternative. you will have heard us reporting tonight that _ reporting tonight that israel defence forces troops are surrounding gaza city. obviously there are many hostages still bear. what do you want to see happening now? i what do you want to see happening now? ., what do you want to see happening now? . ., ., now? i am not a political strategist. _ now? i am not a political strategist. i— now? i am not a political strategist. i am - now? i am not a political strategist. i am for - now? i am not a political strategist. i am for life. | now? i am not a politicall strategist. iam for life. it now? i am not a political. strategist. iam for life. it is strategist. i am for life. it is horrific to see the suffering of the children of gaza. any human being will find that horrific, because we share humanity. i wish also to remind people that are 77 people from my community are at their as well and they're affected by it. together with hamas they are quite safe, maybe, some of them. hamas is
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a terrorist organisation who are willing to put its own women and children as human shields. so we are talking about an impossible situation for civilians. i would like to see a solution to it. i would like us to work towards the possibility of life together. you know, and i would love the hostages to come back. i think bringing back the hostages is the fastest way to end this round of devastation and perhaps work towards something that is deserved of the people there. have you had assistance from the british government in terms of trying to get your father out? the prime trying to get your father out? tue: prime minister trying to get your father out? tte: prime minister has trying to get your father out? "tt2 prime minister has made trying to get your father out? tt2 prime minister has made a commitment to do everything within his power for the release of hostages. i am
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working together with my lawyers to press upon the government to make true on its commitment. i have not heard enough from the prime minister about what he's doing in order to help my father. i am a british citizen and my family are british. we have lived here most of our lives and as a british citizen i feel it is his responsibility to work towards the release of my father. and you would like some kind of update from him? tt is and you would like some kind of update from him?— and you would like some kind of update from him? it is one month on, 30 da s. update from him? it is one month on, 30 days- i don't _ update from him? it is one month on, 30 days. i don't know— update from him? it is one month on, 30 days. i don't know if— update from him? it is one month on, 30 days. i don't know if he's _ update from him? it is one month on, 30 days. i don't know if he's dead - 30 days. i don't know if he's dead or alive. we are talking about a humanitarian corridor. i think it's fair to say that we can also ask for a humanitarian corridorfor a humanitarian corridor for information a humanitarian corridorfor information on our loved ones. we do not know. we know he was injured and was shot but we don't know if he
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survived. we know he is in gaza. how do ou survived. we know he is in gaza. how do you know — survived. we know he is in gaza. how do you know your— survived. we know he is in gaza. how do you know your father was shot? survived. we know he is in gaza. howl do you know your father was shot? my do you know your father was shot? tj�*i mum told do you know your father was shot? m mum told us. do you know your father was shot? my mum told us. right. _ do you know your father was shot? my mum told us. right. and _ do you know your father was shot? my mum told us. right. and you - do you know your father was shot? my mum told us. right. and you went - do you know your father was shot? my mum told us. right. and you went to l mum told us. right. and you went to our mum told us. right. and you went to your parents's _ mum told us. right. and you went to your parents's home? _ mum told us. right. and you went to your parents's home? last _ mum told us. right. and you went to your parents's home? last thursday, 'ust before your parents's home? last thursday, just before i — your parents's home? last thursday, just before i came _ your parents's home? last thursday, just before i came back _ your parents's home? last thursday, just before i came back to _ your parents's home? last thursday, just before i came back to the - your parents's home? last thursday, just before i came back to the uk - just before i came back to the uk went to visit their home. the house was burned down, the whole kibbutz is like a nightmare. it is so beautiful still and yet some of the houses are burned, all of the houses are open. you walk into the houses, you see the bullets and the blood, qc people you loved all your life have been murdered and beheaded and shot and destroyed —— you see people you loved all your life. you see that the birds are singing and i went into my parents's house and i could hear the bombs falling on gaza, i could see the shots hitting
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my father through the door. the whole house is totally burned. it's so much devastation, so much sadness. so much to hold together. you must know that for me as a person, i am so sad about it. i'm sad about all this. i don't want anything in terms of avenging anyone. i don't believe in revenge, i don't believe in finding a —— i believe in finding a way forward. how do you feel when you see people taking down posters, images of the israeli hostages? i taking down posters, images of the israeli hostages?— israeli hostages? i think that as humans we _ israeli hostages? i think that as humans we must _ israeli hostages? i think that as humans we must not _ israeli hostages? i think that as humans we must not engage i israeli hostages? i think that as humans we must not engage in| israeli hostages? i think that as l humans we must not engage in a israeli hostages? i think that as - humans we must not engage in a race to the bottom. if we do not acknowledge each other�*s pain we're
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on the path to create more pain. what happened on the 7th of october is horrific there is no but after that sentence, it is simply horrific. taking down those posters doesn't help. i think on the other hand, revenge on the citizens of gaza who are held prisoner by a terrorist regime also doesn't help. we should work towards returning the hostages, towards dismantling a because it's an horrific organisation and it is bad for its own people. but anything other than that, anything that is against humans is simply horrific. thank you for talkinu humans is simply horrific. thank you for talking to — humans is simply horrific. thank you for talking to us, _ humans is simply horrific. thank you for talking to us, sharone. _ humans is simply horrific. thank you for talking to us, sharone. we - humans is simply horrific. thank you for talking to us, sharone. we wish l for talking to us, sharone. we wish you all the best.— the metropolitan police are urging a coalition of organisers
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to consider postponing a pro—palestinian march this saturday on armistice weekend, because it says, it isn't "appropriate". meanwhile over the weekend just gone, there were some vile banners held up at protests in the capital. there was no ambiguity — the anti—semitism was clear for everyone to see. somejewish and muslim communities are feeling fearful as racist attacks continue in the light of the war in the middle east. today the head of the un said anti—jewish and anti—muslim hate is on the rise; days ago england's education secretary drew attention to university campuses, saying racism must be called out in education settings — and people's hate must never go unchecked. we've been investigating anti—semitism on campuses after we were contacted by some students ofjewish faith. you may find some of the content in this report distrubing. sima has the story.
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a banner held up at a london protest over the weekend. before that, this. a freedom for palestine poster, graffitied with the words, "kill morejews," again in the capital. i've heard from students who are deeply anxious about how they're feeling. and there's been more since the war in the middle east started a month ago. outside of london, too. we've seen an unprecedented rise in campus anti—semitism, like nothing we've seen before. we've seen over a year's worth of anti—semitic campus incidents recorded in just under three weeks. and of course while there have been a number of incidents, everyjewish student is feeling this. everyjewish student is being impacted by this or anxious about going onto campus and this is deeply concerning to us. over the weekend, the universities minister robert halfon said campuses were turning into invisible ghettos, wherejewish students were being screamed at because of their faith. at warwick university, newsnight understands that some jewish students were subjected
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to vile anti—semitism messages on a whatsapp group. we were on an event with j—soc, actually, and it was a bar crawl. and what happened is that we had four individuals who infiltrated our whatsapp group. we have security in place to make sure, in light of recent events, to make sure that people didn't do this, but they got through our security. and then what they did is, they put some really vile messages, and it was pure anti—semitism. four unknown people are said to have joined the group and the conversation started off pretty normally. here we can see them asking about where to get kosher meat in the area. but the infiltrators then asked about israel and that's where the abuse started. it starts by accusing the group of killing innocent palestinians. "i don't like it, killing kids, killing mothers." then it flips into over anti—semitism.
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it makes me feel unwelcome, to be totally honest, because, like, it's not like we have a choice, being jewish. like, once we are born a jew, we are always a jew, we are in our community, all our friends and family are jewish. and the fact that, you know, people go out of their way to attack us purely because of who we are... now, there's always happened in the past, over our history. we're used to it, but we felt that we've tried our best to integrate into britain, we've tried to be part of british culture and that's still not enough for some people. it's sad. in the 28 days since the 7th of october the community security trust recorded 67 university related anti—semitic incidents
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across the uk. in the same period last year, 12 incidents were recorded. this is the highest ever recorded total by the organisation in a four—week period. warwick university said it was horrified by the vile messages and that it alerted the police and officers were now investigating the incident. of course muslim communities too are being targeted because of their faith. one muslim student said she was referred to as "a bomb—making ninja" in the canteen at her local college just days ago. another student says it's been a frightening time. i know individuals who have had things thrown at them as they're walking through the streets, trying to go about their daily lives. and so muslim students are feeling ostracised, they're feeling scared. there's a general feeling of anxiety and fear and, you know, this really speaks to something. it is islamophobia awareness month
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and yet there seems to be very little awareness that this is an incredibly real reality for muslims, not just at university but also beyond. according to tell mama, an organisation that tracks islamophobia, in the last four weeks there have been 31 incidents of islamophobia on uk university campuses, compared to three over the same period last year. newsnight understands that during the covid pandemic, channels of engagement with different communities were created. despite officials wanting them all to continue understand that they no longer do. and that in turn, sources tell me, have made community cohesion at this very tense time even more challenging. as the war continues, there are concerns the racism will worsen, making communities feel fearful while watching the ongoing conflict unfold. let's speak to colin bloom,
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formerly the independent faith engagement advisor, who earlier this year published a landmark review into religion and how the government engages with different faith groups. welcome. where does the buck stop and what should be done?— and what should be done? clearly it's a very disappointing _ and what should be done? clearly it's a very disappointing piece - it's a very disappointing piece there by sima and our heart must go out to all the victims of anti—semitism and anti—muslim hatred being reported. where does the buck stop? ultimately the people that are doing these disgusting crimes and saying these horrible things and intimidating people, the buck stops ultimately made them. the government, if what was behind your question whether the government should do more, it should do more. what should be done? what should do more, it should do more. what should be done?— should do more, it should do more. what should be done? what should be done is that firstly _ what should be done? what should be done is that firstly there _ what should be done? what should be done is that firstly there should - what should be done? what should be done is that firstly there should be - done is that firstly there should be a recognition, there are only about 9000 jewish students in the uk and
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there are 2.8 million students, nearly 3 million in the uk and only 9000 of them arejewish and the reports i've had are very harrowing. they are isolated, as the report said, they aren't going to lectures, they're staying indoors and feeling terrorised and under siege. i think with such a small population they feel also that it's notjust other students that are making them feel like this but also staff and lecturers as well. you've seen cases that have been reported where lecturers at ucl and oxford and elsewhere, where they been publicly supporting some of the... calling an intifada and other things. so there needs to be more, more needs to be done with the student bodies themselves as well as the lecturers
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and the chancellors and vice chancellors of the universities. they have to do more to make sure that the very tiny minority of jewish students are not feeling the brunt of what feels like a horrendous onslaught of abuse. i want to ask you about the marches that are planned this weekend. the met police have asked organisers to postpone their pro—palestinian march. if you were advising the government would you support the call? that is what separates us from many other country rrges i think there is a very fine line that we have to draw, around i think the met police, i think, draw, around i think the met police, ithink, ithink draw, around i think the met police, i think, i think they are getting balancejust about i think, i think they are getting balance just about right. my hope is, that the pro—palestinian protesters will call it off, because actually i don't think they are going to be helping their cause,
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they are not helping the people of they are not helping the people of the palestinian, they are not helping the people of gazaer because there will be many people who are you know, who will be just utterly disgusted by their behaviour, marching on armistice day, and i... they, could you not argue that people who say they are marching for a ceasefire and marching for peace should be able to march on remembrance weekend when we remember people whoa have died in wars? i don't think they can count on a small minority of them from actually crossing that line, and being, and being you know, extremely aggressive and there be arrests, so i think they can't guarantee that, we have had a number of marches in recent weeks, there was one on saturday, supporting the britishjewish supporting the british jewish community, supporting the britishjewish community, and supporting the people of israel. zero arrests, there was
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no confrontation, it was not largely peaceful, or mostly peaceful it was peaceful. we haven't seen that with the other one, i see no reason there would be anything other than you know problems if they have, they really need, the protesters need to think again about doing it. but they are free to protest. i mean, let us be clear they are free to protest and i think the met police have the balance right, but i think they, i think they would be well advised not to. �* , ., ., , ,, ., to. briefly and finally, suella ieraverman — to. briefly and finally, suella braverman has _ to. briefly and finally, suella braverman has described - to. briefly and finally, suellaj braverman has described the pro—palestinian march like, it is entirely unacceptable to desecrate armistice day with a hate march through london. what do you think of that language? itirui’eiiii through london. what do you think of that language?— that language? well it is not lanaruae that language? well it is not language i— that language? well it is not language i would _ that language? well it is not language i would use. - that language? well it is not language i would use. whatl that language? well it is not i language i would use. what do that language? well it is not - language i would use. what do you think of it? — language i would use. what do you think of it? clearly _ language i would use. what do you think of it? clearly it _ language i would use. what do you think of it? clearly it wouldn't - think of it? clearly it wouldn't have been — think of it? clearly it wouldn't have been cleared _ think of it? clearly it wouldn't have been cleared by - think of it? clearly it wouldn'tj have been cleared by number think of it? clearly it wouldn't - have been cleared by number ten, i think that language is deliberately designed to goad number ten into probably firing her, i think suella
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braverman is looking to be fired. it is notjust those comments it is those that she made about people sleeping in tents, i think she is goading number ten into getting rid of her because she wants to launch her leadership campaign, that is probably what it is about, it is very regrettable what she said. is thank let us talk more about that. is there a policy rift between the prime minister and home secretary ahead of the king's speech tomorrow? that idea of suella braverman restricting the use of tents we won't be seeing that, the status is still undergoing scrutiny. the ft which originally broke this story said the home secretary had only ever proposed the idea, but then the home secretary was pretty quick out of the traps when they story appeared. she talked about how we have to step in now to stop this and
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of course she described people living in streets in tents a as lifestyle choice, so as colin was saying where does this leave the relationship between rishi sunak and suella braverman, the prime minister today pointly refused to use that phrase lifestyle choice as the home secretary had and her idea, it has now become undergoing scrutiny, so what we have is two very different politicians, with very different styles and focus, for the prime minister focused on doing as well he as he can in the general election. home secretary focused on the general election but also what comes after. 50 general election but also what comes after, ,, ., ., general election but also what comes after. ., , , after. so what message will rishi sunak wanting, _ after. so what message will rishi sunak wanting, be _ after. so what message will rishi sunak wanting, be wanting - after. so what message will rishi sunak wanting, be wanting to - after. so what message will rishi| sunak wanting, be wanting to get through to voters with this king's speech? through to voters with this king's seech? ~ , ., through to voters with this king's seech? ~ ., ,, �*, through to voters with this king's seech? ., ,, �*, ,, . speech? when you a king's speech this close to _ speech? when you a king's speech this close to a _ speech? when you a king's speech this close to a general— speech? when you a king's speech this close to a general election, i speech? when you a king's speech this close to a general election, a l this close to a general election, a government is wanting to achieve two big goal, it wants to show it has lots of serious ideas to make the country a better place and the second thing is to lay some bear traps. in the last half an hour we
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have heard that criminaljustice will be at the heart of the king's speech and there is an idea there in the criminaljustice bill, that will say that reasonable force can be used to make the most serious criminals appear in court, for their sentencing, on the second goal, bear traps for the opposition, we will be seeing new legislation to mandate an annual north sea and gas licensing round. labourwill annual north sea and gas licensing round. labour will not license any more of this, if keir starmer comes prime minister, so what the conservatives are saying is you labour are not serious about energy security and labour will say you the conservatives are not serious about new let's speak to the political reporter at the sun noa hoffman, and luke tryl, from the pollsters more in common. thank you both. let me ask you about what colin bloom said about suella braverman goading number ten into trying to sack her. how do you
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respond to that? 50. trying to sack her. how do you respond to that?— trying to sack her. how do you respond to that? so, with the usual caveats, respond to that? so, with the usual caveats. we — respond to that? so, with the usual caveats, we don't _ respond to that? so, with the usual caveats, we don't believe, - respond to that? so, with the usual caveats, we don't believe, i - respond to that? so, with the usual caveats, we don't believe, i don't . caveats, we don't believe, i don't believe that number ten signed off of this, signed off on this policy or this policy under discussion, it was clearly an idea being floated within the home office, someone got hold of it. the ft got hold of it and suella leaped on it and did this infamous tweet where she referred to rough sleepers as having a lifestyle choice. this made her no friends, even the most right—wing of the tory party believe that kicking people who are really the lowest points of their life in society is not popular among any voters, labour, conservative, it didn't go down not just with the public as i am sure luke will talk about but with her own party and seeing so many tory mps speak up about it. even those who are maybe on more on her side of the party, the idea got shot down
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straight after it came out. luke, was it a vote winner with anybody? it i luke, was it a vote winner with anybody?— luke, was it a vote winner with an bod? , , ~ ., anybody? ifi can sum up like from all of our conversation _ anybody? ifi can sum up like from all of our conversation with - anybody? ifi can sum up like from all of our conversation with the i all of our conversation with the public— all of our conversation with the public one _ all of our conversation with the public one thing that defined what most _ public one thing that defined what most brits think it's a deep belief of sense — most brits think it's a deep belief of sense of fair play. they are willing — of sense of fair play. they are willing to _ of sense of fair play. they are willing to be tough, which is why the average brit wants to be tough on crime, — the average brit wants to be tough on crime, tough on those that abuse the asylum _ on crime, tough on those that abuse the asylum system, but what they don't _ the asylum system, but what they don't want — the asylum system, but what they don't want to see is cruelty, and the way— don't want to see is cruelty, and the way this policy would have landed — the way this policy would have landed is _ the way this policy would have landed is right across the political spectrum. — landed is right across the political spectrum, from the rightor, the left is we _ spectrum, from the rightor, the left is we are _ spectrum, from the rightor, the left is we are in— spectrum, from the rightor, the left is we are in a — spectrum, from the rightor, the left is we are in a cost of living crisis and _ is we are in a cost of living crisis and you — is we are in a cost of living crisis and you talking about taking away tents _ and you talking about taking away tents from people who are live on the street — tents from people who are live on the street. that will is what will have _ the street. that will is what will have cut — the street. that will is what will have cut through, that is why it was so dangerous and so important in public— so dangerous and so important in public opinion terms for the prime minister— public opinion terms for the prime minister to— public opinion terms for the prime minister to distance himself from those _ minister to distance himself from those remarks today. i those remarks today. i mean _ those remarks today. i mean i recall she said the british people are... and it was about
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combatting crime. what will a peel to your readers. 50. combatting crime. what will a peel to your readers.— combatting crime. what will a peel to your readers. so, looking forward to your readers. so, looking forward to the king's — to your readers. so, looking forward to the king's speech _ to your readers. so, looking forward to the king's speech tomorrow, i to your readers. so, looking forward to the king's speech tomorrow, a i to your readers. so, looking forward | to the king's speech tomorrow, a lot of our readers like most of the public are really struggling with this sticky soaring inflation with the cost of living crisis, what they want to know, is how different will my bank account look at the end of the king's speech or basted on the alantive agent day versus before it. along side the cost of living crisis, there will be looking out for any policies on immigration, and also, i think they will, the crackdown on being tough on crime, you know, extending sentencing for the worst people in our society, murders and rapists will have an appeal, it will make streets safer but i think this comes down to what will happen when the cost of living crisis. and we will get more details on that at the autumn statement. yes, which is in a few weeks type.
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inflation is coming down but prices are still going up, just more slowly, luke, the kind of stuff thaw is going to come out, who do you think that will appeal too? fine is going to come out, who do you think that will appeal too? one of the big challenges _ think that will appeal too? one of the big challenges that _ think that will appeal too? one of the big challenges that rishi i the big challenges that rishi sunak has got is when you look at the 2019 conservative vote, they are holding on to half of it, but the other half hasn'tjust moved in one direction, so, a good chunk has gone straight to labour but another chunk has gone people who say they will vote for reform uk, and an even bigger chief constable has gone from conservative to say i don't know how i will vote or i don't know if i will vote at all. what the conservatives are worried about is notjust they believe those voters to labour, but those don't knows, the core conservatives and if you look at the don't knows they are quite right—wing, they sit on than hands in the general election and that is what turns a defeat into a 1997 style landslide defeat, so lots of the messaging you can see in the
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