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as well, and that again, we don't see a reoccupation. and ivanka trump, daughter of the former us president donald trump, testifies at her father's civil fraud trial. hello, welcome to verified live — three hours of breaking stories, and checking out the truth behind them. we begin with news that the israeli military says its forces have reached the centre of gaza city and have destroyed more than 100 entrances to a vast network of hamas tunnels. a spokesman said israel had also captured about 4,000 weapons — including rockets hidden in civilian infrastructure — and killed a major
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hamas arms manufacturer. meanwhile hamas health officials say more than 10,500 people have been killed since the conflict began in gaza, nearly half of them children. israel has repeatedly warned palestinians to head south to greater safety, despite also bombarding that region. thousands of palestinian residents of gaza city are fleeing as israeli troops tighten their grip on the area. the israeli army released video showing a long line of people on foot, many of them waving white flags, some holding their hands in the air. explosions can be heard in the background. meanwhile the us secretary of state has outlined what should happen when the fighting stops. antony blinken said gaza and the west bank should both be governed by the palestinian authority. he told a meeting of g7 foreign ministers that there should be no israeli occupation of gaza. the deputy leader of lebanon's hezbollah group, which is backed by iran, has praised last month's attack by hamas which sparked the fighting.
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hezbollah�*s deputy chief told the bbc the killings were an act of resistance. 1,400 people were killed, most of them civilians. we begin our coverage this hour with this report from our middle east correspondent yolande knell. for the first time, israeli forces are giving some journalists a glimpse of how gaza now looks. this footage is from the bbc�*s us partner, cbs. in the very north of the strip, it's hard to believe these were palestinian homes just a month ago. i know that the military objective is to destroy hamas... mm-hm. — ..but you destroyed everything. yeah, because, look, hamas is using infrastructure. i mean, just ten minutes ago, we had a serious battle with a group of hamas inside a school. missiles are said to have been fired from here, and these pictures show how far
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israeli forces are advancing in their mission to destroy hamas. this tank appears to be deep in gaza city. nearby, many thousands of civilians are continuing to shelter at the shifa hospital. doctors here deny israel's claim that the building's secretly used by hamas. but as israeli forces move in, there's been a new exodus from northern gaza to the south. although it's been declared a safe route, many carry white flags. we are civilian people. we want to live in our land, with peace, but nobody in the world let us to leave. in lebanon, where events in gaza are being closely watched, there was more cross—border fighting overnight. here, israel says it's attacking its powerful enemy, hezbollah, and its leaders tell the bbc the war could yet spread. translation: the danger is real,
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because israel is increasing - its aggression against civilians and killing more women and children. is it possible for this to continue and increase, without bringing real danger to the region? i think not. such threats worry the international community. today, g7 foreign ministers backed a pause in fighting to get aid into gaza. and the us has been giving assurances about the post—war future. the united states believes key element should include no forcible displacement of palestinians from gaza. not now, not after the war. no use of gaza as a platform for terrorism or other violent attacks. no reoccupation of gaza after the conflict ends. but for now, the fierce battles go on. israel pledges to annihilate hamas, hamas says that no force on earth can do that.
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many more difficult days lie ahead. yolande knell, bbc news, jerusalem. 0ur correspondent in gaza, rushdi abulaouf, has this update on the bombing campaign. yeah, let's start from here, as like 10—12 minutes ago, there was a huge air strike here in khan yunis, close to close to the hospitals. shrapnels were flying to the courtyard of this nasser hospital. this is the second—largest medical centre in gaza — now it's the biggest medical centre that's serving almost half of the population. in khan yunis, we noticed today for the last 4—5 hours at least, air strikes in khan yunis — but in gaza city and the north, where israel is fighting in eight different battles, we understand the biggest one is northwest and southwest. fighting will continue —
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not as intense as yesterday, but fighting will continue there. we have seen footage of air strikes and exchange of fire in some of the blazes overnight. 0vernight we have about a0 people at least killed, some say 50 — still no official figure from the palestinian health ministry here in gaza about the number of people killed overnight. but, yes, we have air strikes in central gaza, in the city, in the area that israel asked 1.2 million people to flee. in khan yunis, here in rafah, we have air strikes and also intense air strikes in gaza city. today, it was an eastern part of gaza city, in a neighbourhood where people are talking about many people are trapped under their houses. as you know, getting information is really hard, and verifying information is really hard, given the communication difficulties. but the situation in gaza city, where about half million people, we believe, there they are struggling to find food, they are struggling to find clean water. and here, it's the same. but here, some of the aid that's
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come from egypt in the last ten days is reaching this area. it's considered a drop in the ocean, but it is reaching some of the people here in khan yunis. but in gaza city, the situation is really at the edge of catastrophic, as the local authority here and the un talks about shortage of fuel, shortage of water, and shortage of food. rushdi abualouf, our correspondent, reporting for us from gaza. as we've been saying, palestinians are continuing to flee from northern gaza — but are they getting out? bbc verify has been looking at the latest video and satellite images from the area to get a clearer picture. merlyn thomas from the team is in the verify hub with more. israel has been ordering civilians in northern gaza to move south for their safety as they continue their offensive in the north. but what does that mean for the civilians of gaza? it's one of the most densely populated areas in the world. there were over1 million people
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in the northern part before this conflict started. and the israeli military have been telling people to move south down this road, salahadin road, it's one of the two main arteries connecting the north to the south. and we've seen them doing this. these are people who are moving down that road, as you can see, carrying white flags. these are children, men, women walking down this road, fleeing from the north, carrying all the possessions that they have. now, this footage was filmed by the afp news agency on monday. they spoke to one of the gazans on the road about her experience. translation: it was so scary. we saw tanks from both sides. we didn't see soldiers, just tanks. we held our hands up and we kept walking. there were so many of us. we were holding white flags. it's true that we were scared, but finally we made it through. so how has the israeli military been telling people to move to the south? these are pictures of one of the mass drops of leaflets
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over northern gaza. now, these white specks here, you can see those leaflets dropping to the ground. these have messages urging people to move to the south for their own safety. they've also been posting on x. for example, today the israeli military posted in arabic that the main road here we've just been talking about would be open between 10am and 3pm local time. yesterday, the israeli military posted a video on x showing civilians walking down salah al—din road. and we've just paused a frame here so you can see an israeli tank in the foreground. now, using the shape of the buildings and the composition of the road, we've managed to verify this location is approximately three kilometres north of gaza. kilometres north of ——wadi gaza. the israelis consider this to be the boundary between the north and the south of gaza. we've also found this satellite imagery taken yesterday showing the exact same stretch of road.
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and if you look closely here, you can see the outlines of people on the road moving down the road. and if you look elsewhere in this picture, you can see signs of damage to the buildings and the debris that spilt out onto the road. this is what those people would have had to cross. and finally, you can see here, if you look closely, right next to the road, this is an israeli tank here too, which these people will have had to walk past. we've also been analysing satellite imagery. now, these satellite images are captures on 31st october and 3rd november. now, using both of these, we've assessed the amount of damage to the road and to the buildings around it. so every single drop here you can see represents damage of some kind to the road. so, craters on the tarmac of the road or building damage close to the road. but we can't tell exactly when this damage occurred. but let's take a closer look at two of these. so we're going to take a closer look at those two points. this is one of them. if you look here, you can see a crater on the main road itself.
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and i'm going to show you the second point here. these are buildings which have been destroyed and some of the debris has scattered onto the road itself. we don't know how many people have used this road to move to safety. the un suggested that thousands have moved on a single day. but the question remains as the fighting continues in the north, how many more desperate people will make this choice? around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. a 15—year—old old boy who died after being stabbing near a school in leeds has been publicly named as alfie lewis. emergency services were called to the incident in horsforth on tuesday. alfie — a former student at horsforth school — later died in hospital, and police opened a murder investigation. a teenage boy has been arrested.
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possession of nitrous oxide has become a criminal offence in the uk. now categorised as a class c drug, possession of nitrous oxide — which is also known as laughing gas for its "psychoactive effects" — will carry a sentence of up to two years in prison. the government says the ban will combat anti—social behaviour and reduce damage to users' health. fans of the caramel bar caramac have been left "devastated" after nestle confirmed it is discontinuing the sweet. nestle said it was "a difficult decision," but pointed to slower sales in recent years. caramac was launched more than 60 years ago, quickly gaining popularity thanks to its distinctive red and yellow wrapper and caramel flavour. you're live with bbc news. the uk prime minister rishi sunak says he will hold the metropolitan police commissioner "accountable" for not banning a pro—palestinian protest march set to take place in london on armistice day.
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the british prime minister has criticised the timing of the protest as disrespectful and provocative. the two met this afternoon and sir mark rowley said there were no grounds to ban saturday's protest. transport secretary mark harper reiterated that the government would hold sir mark rowley to account over the protest. well, the legal position is very clear. this is the operational responsibility of the commissioner of metropolitan police — the legal powers are his to request that. he has to make a judgment based on all the factors that he has to take into account and, as the prime minister said, it is the met�*s responsibility to make sure the march goes of safely, and we'll hold him to account for that. protest organisers say they will not damage war memorials and argue they have a right to protest on armistice day. this is very clearly political, and attempt to smear those who are coming out, peacefully marching, calling for a ceasefire, and the
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idea that calling for a ceasefire on armistice day is somehow especially disrespectful is a rather absurd moral position, i would argue. live now to our political correspondent ione wells. the protesters say that sunday's march will go ahead, but there is a lot of pressure from the government about this, isn't there?— about this, isn't there? that's ri . ht. about this, isn't there? that's right- the _ about this, isn't there? that's right. the organisers - about this, isn't there? that's right. the organisers have - about this, isn't there? that's| right. the organisers have said about this, isn't there? that's - right. the organisers have said that this march will still indeed be going ahead. their perspective is that they have emphasise that it will go from hyde park to the us embassy in london in vauxhall, that it won't be passing down whitehall, past the cenotaph, and that it will be taking place from noon, after the minute's silence has been held. it is you say, there's been some backlash to going ahead, not least from senior members of the government, rishi sunak, as you mention, calling the timing of the match disrespectful and provocative.
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he met with sir mark rowley, the head of the metropolitan police, today. that was effectively for the prime minister too, as his spokesman said earlier, i suppose, challenge mark rowley and ask for his assurances that the police would be initiating a robust response to this march when it takes place. the prime minister stopped short of asking sir mark rowley to cancel the event. the government has said this is for the police to make that call. the police's perspective is that it is a very, very high threshold to try to say that a protest cannot go ahead, and that is a threshold which, in a sir mark rowley�*s review, has not yet been met. the essential position of his is that for that threshold to be met, it would have to be the case that police had no other way of managing a march or protest. it's also been said that his biggest concern has been around potential
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sort of fringe events or splinter events that may take place of the main march itself. but as i said before, it has to be a kind of serious threat of public disorder for the match to intervene and say they our back there cannot be a protest at all, so so far they have resisted those calls. but as we've heard from various ministers, the government has said they will hold the police accountable if anything does kind of go in a way that the police are not happy with. so i think there are certainly all eyes going to be on this march on sunday to see what exactly does happen and whether the prime minister will have any further words for mark rowley after it does. any further words for mark rowley after it does-_ any further words for mark rowley after it does. thank you very much for that. after it does. thank you very much for that and _ after it does. thank you very much for that. and of _ after it does. thank you very much for that. and of course _ after it does. thank you very much for that. and of course that - after it does. thank you very much for that. and of course that march | for that. and of course that march is planned for saturday, and to discuss that further i am joined by sedwill, former chief superintendent with the metropolitan police. —— i'm joined by dal babu. what do you think i do think that mark should
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happen? think i do think that mark should ha en? , ., ., happen? yes, we have the right to march, happen? yes, we have the right to march. we — happen? yes, we have the right to march. we are _ happen? yes, we have the right to march, we are democracy, - happen? yes, we have the right to march, we are democracy, not - happen? yes, we have the right to. march, we are democracy, not iran, not russia, not china. there is a very high threshold. i can only recall one march that was banned and it was the english defence league who wanted to march into tower hamlets, that'll stop because it would potentially be a serious disorder. what we have had as demonstrations for the last month, since hamas's attack in his room, and for that last month we have not had disorder. the root of the march has been through central london and the barge, as your correspondent said, is a different location on this occasion. —— the march is a different location. the this occasion. -- the march is a different location.— different location. the home secretary — different location. the home secretary suella _ different location. the home secretary suella bravermanl different location. the home - secretary suella braverman said, and i quote, an obvious risk of public disorder, violence and damage if that protest on the 11th went ahead. the police would have the intelligence, the home secretary would not. iam intelligence, the home secretary would not. i am worried about the home secretary's comments come it's about minority groups, whether it's about minority groups, whether it's about calling this a hate march, not
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particularly helpful. i think what we need to understand is that sir mark rowley is the accountable person, he has made that decision and is the only one who would have that intelligence and has constantly said he will review it. and he will be held accountable. but there is a very worrying aspect of an attempt to politicise the police. the police have to be independent. without fear or favour, have to be independent. without fear orfavour, doing theirjob. and what we are seeing is politicians weighing in here and trying to influence policing operational decisions. it is a very, very worrying aspect and we need to tell the politicians to stay away from operational policing. hat the politicians to stay away from operational policing.— the politicians to stay away from operational policing. not 'ust the home secretary, * operational policing. not 'ust the home secretary, the _ operational policing. notjust the home secretary, the prime - operational policing. notjust the i home secretary, the prime minister saying this quote from friday, that any plan protest was provocative and disrespectful, we have heard similar comments from a spokesperson today as well. so i mean, the government would say that the metropolitan police should take heed of what saying.
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police should take heed of what sa inc. ,., .., police should take heed of what sa inc. ., , saying. the government can make any comments they _ saying. the government can make any comments they like _ saying. the government can make any comments they like but _ saying. the government can make any comments they like but ultimately - saying. the government can make any comments they like but ultimately it l comments they like but ultimately it is the police who have to make that decision. the police will have to make the decision, they will gather the intelligence, and like i said, in 2011, when the english defence league are going to march in tower hamlets, that's the only march that has been stopped, on every other occasion the police have put huge amounts of resources in the police with the public agree with them or not. and i think it is important that in a democracy does the police who make that decision, and we are seeing this being played very publicly, it's very unusual, these kinds of discussions are held in private without actually adding heat. if you stop a demonstration you're still going to have people coming to london and that potentially could have more disorder occurring because there isn't organisers there, the march will be taking place after the remembrance day silence period, it will be taking place away from central london. i think all of those things are really important to take on board. i are really important to take on board. , ., , .
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are really important to take on board. . ., board. i should 'ust correct, of course, board. i should 'ust correct, of ccurse the — board. i shouldjust correct, of course, the element _ board. i shouldjust correct, of course, the element is - board. i should just correct, of l course, the element is armistice day, that is the day, saturday, of the planned march, but there are of course memorials on the sunday as well. —— sunday the 11th is armistice day. what are the conditions by the met police to actually call for the march not to go ahead, then?— actually call for the march not to go ahead, then? serious disorder. the will go ahead, then? serious disorder. the)! will be _ go ahead, then? serious disorder. they will be monitoring _ go ahead, then? serious disorder. l they will be monitoring intelligence and looking at what has happened over the last month, they have had these demonstrations, there has not been serious disorder over the last month. they will look at any new information that comes in which would indicate there will be serious disorder and only then, if they haven't got the resources available to be able to police that, and remember the metropolitan police is a quarter of the entire police force of this country, over 25%. they can always call in for mutual help from other forces as well, which is the normal way of doing things. i think what we need is level heads, we need some com voices, and we need to take the heat out of this. this is not fair for the the heat out of this. this is not fairfor the police. and sir mark
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rowley has been has done a very good job and we ought to respect a police officer who is basing his decisions on intelligence. just officer who is basing his decisions on intelligence.— on intelligence. just briefly, ou're on intelligence. just briefly, you're not — on intelligence. just briefly, you're not serving _ on intelligence. just briefly, you're not serving any - on intelligence. just briefly, | you're not serving any more, on intelligence. just briefly, - you're not serving any more, but what conversations are you hearing from people in the bat about some of these comments we have heard from these comments we have heard from the prime minister, the home secretary and the transport secretary? —— make in the metropolitan police? i secretary? -- make in the metropolitan police? i think officers are _ metropolitan police? i think officers are very _ metropolitan police? i think officers are very worried - metropolitan police? i think. officers are very worried about language, some of them are asking questions, if a white person said what suella braverman says, would that constitute an offence? she is talking about eight march, has made comments about pakistani men in the past, —— she is talking about a hate march. 0thers past, —— she is talking about a hate march. others are saying she will not be the one in court trying to justify operational arrests. police officers could potentially be sacked if they go in and the rest for an offence that does not exist, they could potentially be prosecuted for a criminal offence. so i think there is a lot of anger amongst operational police officers who want to do a job, what to do a good job, want to allow people to protest, to deal with any anti—semitism or
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islamophobia and deal with it robustly but they feel very, very unhappy about politicians weighing in and trying to direct operational policing. dali in and trying to direct operational holicin. , in and trying to direct operational holicin . i, , ., ~' in and trying to direct operational crolicin. , ., ~ i“ and trying to direct operational .olicinc. ., ,, , policing. dal babu, thank you very much for coming _ policing. dal babu, thank you very much for coming in _ policing. dal babu, thank you very much for coming in and _ policing. dal babu, thank you very much for coming in and sharing i policing. dal babu, thank you very l much for coming in and sharing your thoughts on that story. ivanka trump, daughter of the former us president donald trump, is testifying at her father's civil fraud trial. here she is, arriving at the court in new york. mr trump is accused of inflating the value of his assets by more than $2 billion. ivanka trump is the final family member — and witness — to testify before the prosecution rests its case. the judge has already ruled the former president significantly inflated the value of his properties. the trial focuses on charges of falsification of business records, insurance fraud and conspiracy. live now to our north america correspondent nada tawfik. what's the latest? we saw if uncle
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trump arriving at court, what do we know about what she said? —— we saw ivanka trump. i know about what she said? -- we saw ivanka trump-— ivanka trump. i think we can kind of summarise — ivanka trump. i think we can kind of summarise her— ivanka trump. i think we can kind of summarise her answers _ ivanka trump. i think we can kind of summarise her answers to - ivanka trump. i think we can kind of i summarise her answers to prosecutors as, i don't recall. she repeated that several times, kind of echoing a lot of the strategy her brothers have used in the past, saying a lot of the correspondence they have showed her evidence of, that she can't quite remember. and really, this goes back to her role, being so intimately involved in securing loans for several trump properties in chicago, in miami, the old post office in washington, dc. and because it was her husband jared kushner who introduced her to the private wealth management division of deutsche bank, she really had those correspondence back and forth on the loans that would get them far better interest rates than a typical commercial real estate loan. and
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part of that meant that donald trump had to act as a guarantee for those loans, he had to hold a minimum net worth, he had to prove his liquidity. and so that is where his financial statements come into play. but ivanka trump, as prosecutors are trying to get better insight into what those conversations with the banks were, has, as i said, numerous times said she doesn't recall sending certain e—mails, doesn't recall having certain meetings, that she didn't recall knowing much about her father's financial statements. so it has been an interesting morning, as prosecutors try to nail her down on significant details and specific conversations. just briefl , specific conversations. just briefly. in _ specific conversations. just briefly, in about _ specific conversations. just briefly, in about 20 - specific conversations. just briefly, in about 20 seconds, just explain how she was a witness today but initially was a defendant? that's right. remember, all of the trump family has been in this investigation but a court of appeal found she had already left the
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organisation for the white house bring the key timeframe this was looking at, they said they were too old, some of the claims, so she was taken out as a defendant.— old, some of the claims, so she was taken out as a defendant. thank you for brinrrin taken out as a defendant. thank you for bringing us _ taken out as a defendant. thank you for bringing us up — taken out as a defendant. thank you for bringing us up to _ taken out as a defendant. thank you for bringing us up to date. _ taken out as a defendant. thank you for bringing us up to date. i - taken out as a defendant. thank you for bringing us up to date. i should l for bringing us up to date. i should say we have a live page on the bbc news website which has all of the updates from that courtroom in new york. stay with us, i'll be back after a break. hello. for many of us, wednesday has brought a dose of wet weather and blustery winds in places as well. clearing to brighter skies but also with some hefty showers. you can see our frontal system continuing its journey eastwards. low pressure still very much in charge, sending lots of showers in from the atlantic. it has been really windy, too, in the north—west of scotland. those winds only slowly easing through the rest of the day. some pretty heavy rain lingering across shetland. also some outbreaks of rain lingering towards the south east of england. but elsewhere as we head into the first part of the evening it is that mix of clear spells
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and some pretty hefty showers, those showers continuing overnight. a band of showers moving eastwards across england and wales, further showers into western scotland, northern ireland, wales, the south—west. some of those heavy and thundery turning increasingly windy actually across southern and western parts. temperatures dropping close to freezing in parts of scotland. i think most of us will avoid a frost because of the strength of the breeze. now into tomorrow it is a sunshine and showers day. most of the showers where you're exposed to quite a brisk breeze. south—west england, wales, north—west england, the isle of man in to northern ireland, not as many showers further east or further north. those winds gusting to a0 or 50 miles per hour around some southern and western coasts. and actually a chillier feeling day than we've been used to of late, temperatures north to south, 8 to 11 degrees. low pressure still very much with us as we move out of thursday into friday. notice the isobars just squeezing together across the south—west corner as a small weather feature moves its way through. that will bring some outbreaks
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of rain and some strong winds again across south—west england and the channel islands with a change in the wind direction. northerly winds, that means more showers across northern and eastern parts. not as many showers across western parts by the end of the day, but still a slightly chilly feel, seven to 12 degrees. this low swings away eastwards for the start of the weekend. there is another one waiting in the atlantic, but in between, a brief gap between those weather systems. so we could well see some fog on saturday morning. that will tend to clear then actually it's a dry—looking day. some spells of sunshine, temperatures between seven and 12 degrees. but as we head into remembrance sunday, it looks like outbreaks of rain will try to push in from the south and the west. a better chance of staying dry across the north of the uk.
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this is bbc news. the headlines... israeli troops fighting hamas reach the heart of gaza city — the idf say they've destroyed more than a hundred entrances to tunnels and captured thousands of weapons. thousands more palestinians flee gaza city as israel temporarily opens what it says is a safe corridor. the us secretary of state antony blinken says gaza and the west bank should be united
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under the palestinian authority and warns israel against any occupation of gaza. it is imperative that the palestinian people be central to governance in gaza and the west bank as well. and that again we don't see as well. and that again we don't see a regular reoccupation. and the deputy chief of hezbollah, the iranian—backed militant group in lebanon, tells the bbc there is a real risk of a wider war in the middle east. and a night of glitz and glamour in london as stars from the entertainment world hit the red carpet for the women of the year awards. time for a look at the business news now. we begin with a focus on inflation, and messaging that global interest rates are going to stay higher for longer.
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here in the uk, the head of the bank of england andrew bailey dismissed

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