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this is bbc news, live from downing street on the morning rishi sunak and been with his new cabinet. yesterday was a big day in british politics and a busy day here in downing street. it began in the morning as suella braverman was sacked by rishi sunak as home secretary and that led to a chorus of different changes. the main ones to mention or of course that the home secretary is now james cleverly. he replaced suella braverman and the new foreign secretary to replace james cleverly is now david cameron, now lord cameron, who was brought back to front line politics after we lost him after he left downing street as
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prime minister after the brexit referendum. other notable changes include a new health secretary, victoria atkins, and a new party chairman, richard holden, who takes overfrom greg hands. earlier richard holden had this to say. i think there's two points he was making there. one, you can see with people like me from the north of england being promoted, people like laura trott from the south of england being promoted as well. you're seeing a broad coalition of people, that broad church of the conservative party, being refreshed. but i think there are some things, this is one of the points the prime minister made in that speech in manchester, was that there are some things the conservative party has done very well over the last 13 years, which is delivered real transformation for life chances for people. and one of those, which i know was a major driver of david cameron's time in government, was around education. we saw two thirds of kids attending good or outstanding schools in 2010. we are now seeing around 85%. we have seen us really
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rocket up international league tables in things like reading. i think what the prime minister was talking about them was those systemic short—term issues. it is quite clear that educational change is one of those real positives with delivered. obviously alongside having to really deal with those structural deficits that we inherited back in 2010. that was trying to get cash out when there was no means of paying for it. what a lot of people are talking about is the return of david cameron and i wonder what your constituents in the north—east think of that many of them voted for brexit. then for the first time, they voted conservative when borisjohnson was leader and now they discovered the man who led the remain campaign, the man who led the remain campaign, the man who led the remain campaign, the man who oversaw austerity is back in the government as foreign secretary and has had to be given a peerage to take his place at the cabinet table.
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he is not even been elected. what do your voters think that? let he is not even been elected. what do your voters think that?— your voters think that? let us be clear about _ your voters think that? let us be clear about one _ your voters think that? let us be clear about one thing, _ your voters think that? let us be clear about one thing, there - your voters think that? let us be clear about one thing, there is l your voters think that? let us be l clear about one thing, there is one reason that the conservative government had to deal with the public finances in the way it did... let us deal with today. the labour government _ let us deal with today. the labour government had _ let us deal with today. the labour government had hugely _ let us deal with today. the labour government had hugely overspent| let us deal with today. the labour- government had hugely overspent over a long period of time. the structural deficit running at... what do your voters think of david cameron? ~ . , .,, , ., , cameron? what people will be really welcomin: cameron? what people will be really welcoming to — cameron? what people will be really welcoming to see _ cameron? what people will be really welcoming to see and _ cameron? what people will be really welcoming to see and he _ cameron? what people will be really welcoming to see and he said - cameron? what people will be really welcoming to see and he said in - cameron? what people will be really welcoming to see and he said in his. welcoming to see and he said in his own wordsjust welcoming to see and he said in his own words just last night, was that actually what the important thing is that he has a sense of duty to the country. the prime minister recognised that. rishi sunak really welcomes that experience and that breadth of talent in the government but it is notjust about one person, it is about the whole team and you can see from the reshuffle some
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people mightjust want can see from the reshuffle some people might just want to about can see from the reshuffle some people mightjust want to about one character rather than the breadth of change that was delivered but we have seen promotions from right across the country, from friends of mine like robert miller in keighley my friend from just to the north of me who is going into transport, as well as promotions for people from the south of england and the midlands and wales as well so we have seen the change from right across the country. regarding david cameron and his position the house of lords, this has happened many times over recent years. you saw nicky morgan who was secretary of state in the house of lords and as you will know, every government department has a minister in the house of lords as it is today. we saw lord mandelson under the last labour government from the house of lords and when i briefly worked in the house of lords, i remember meeting peter carrington who had been there as mrs thatcher's foreign secretary, so there is a tradition
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of doing that. what people will welcome is actually seeing that breadth of the conservative party has to offer from experience at the highest levels with david cameron and new faces coming in as well. the cabinet meeting wrapped up a short while ago and we saw departing members of the cabinet leave, including lord cameron. you can see him there leaving with andrew mitchell. that is an interesting relationship because of course, lord cameron does not sit in the house of commons but andrew mitchell does. he is an mp and so many people are speculative that andrew mitchell will very much be a defect to foreign secretary with it comes to answering and taking questions in the house of commons. david cameron will sit in the house of lords and can still appear before commons
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select committees and likes. to discuss david cameron's return to cabinet, i spoke to sir alan duncan, a foreign office minister. my my advice is that david cameron has to stop and think for a second about the fact that he has not prime minister. he has never been a minister before prime minister before so the rule is subordinate to the prime minister. i think he will handle it very well personally. i don't think it will be a problem but it does mean that he is there, not just at the top of the pile saying, i wanted this way, he is part of the broader team. i wanted this way, he is part of the broaderteam. i i wanted this way, he is part of the broader team. i think he strengthens that team. i think as a former prime minister, he will be a known and respected figure on the world stage and by the way, let me just a something aboutjames and by the way, let me just a something about james cleverly because i think he earned a very good reputation on the world stage
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for his impeccable good manners, his nice personality and having followed some difficult foreign secretary is, if i could put it that way, he actually, i think, if i could put it that way, he actually, ithink, did if i could put it that way, he actually, i think, did a lot to heal relationships which have been strained by his predecessors. james cleverly, i think, strained by his predecessors. james cleverly, ithink, deserves strained by his predecessors. james cleverly, i think, deserves a lot of praise for his conduct as foreign secretary, which by the way is very difficult in one sense, which is that a lot of the foreign policy was said to rapidly by number ten, often freezing out the proper processes in the foreign office. now that david cameron is there, i hope that the foreign office with the development of us will be re—empowered and will be restored to its proper position of influence, knowledge and advice within the wider government system. you mentioned there the idea that now lord cameron has to be a subordinate around the cabinet
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table. how do you think other members of cabinet are going to take to him being back in thejob, or backin to him being back in thejob, or back in the house, i should say today, around the table? i think the will today, around the table? i think they will like — today, around the table? i think they will like it. _ today, around the table? i think they will like it. some _ today, around the table? i think. they will like it. some experience and authority being injected into the cabinet will be quite invigorating so i think it will be very well received. a wonderful tiny aspect of this is, how will he, as a member of the lords, mixed with members of parliament? obviously the commons is the dominant power in our pulmonary system. as a former member of parliament, although in the lords, he can go into some of those rooms in the commons like the members dining room and what is called the smoking room, although there is no longer any smoking, which will allow him to mix with members of the commons on a social basis. if he was just a member of the house of lords and had not been a member of the house of commons, you don't have access to those rooms
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in the same way so i would recommend that he uses that access to mix with members of the commons so they feel settled about his position as foreign secretary in the lords. sir alan duncan says david cameron needs to visit the smoking room more! there is no smoking, honestly! let me ask you about the nitty—gritty of foreign policy. there is a conflict raging in the middle east, also a work continuing in ukraine. how do you think lord cameron is going to handle the uk's position on these? i think on ukraine, there is, ithink think on ukraine, there is, i think you will be able to strike a very good relationship very quickly with president zelensky and any other members of the ukrainian government. of course, he has had experience with dealing with russians in the past so i think that he has quite a
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strong hand to play in the interactions that are inevitably going to emerge further on ukraine. on the middle east, i think it will need a lot of thinking and i suspect that until october the 7th majority opinion in israel was far more moderate and liberal than the netanyahu government's image was. so i think he has to tuning to that and appreciate that although, of course, there has to be a vigorous response to what hamas did on october the 7th, there is a very long—standing in the middle east which is decades old which has its origin in the israelis are illegally trying to take their neighbours' land,
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that's the starting point which i think all politicians and i would urge commentators as well to return, and please always ask someone when giving an interview with them, do you accept that actually un resolutions saying that taking palestinians' land is illegal is something you accept? and if you don't, then you can then realise you are dealing with an extremist in our midst. 0k. sir alan just moving away from foreign office politics, do you think lord cameron coming back to the top team is going to make a difference in the next general election campaign? i think so, it will. the question is whether it will be marginal or can it really lead to some kind of seismic recovery, as the conservatives are way behind in the polls at the moment. and i think it will be helpful in contrast, inasmuch as the labour front bench has some very weak personalities.
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it doesn't really have many people of substance. the thing about david cameron coming back is he does have substance, as i think many other members of the cabinet do. i don't see that in the opposition. i think the main tone of politics in the uk at the moment is they have fallen out of love with the conservatives but they have not fallen in love with labour. that means there is quite a lot to play for and i think pitching personalities against each other will put us in a better light compared with labour. we have just seen larry, we havejust seen larry, the cat, depart downing street, probably one of the most informed creatures on this street. me of the most informed creatures on this street-— of the most informed creatures on this street. ~ ., �* ~ ., ., this street. we don't know what went on in the cabinet _ this street. we don't know what went on in the cabinet meeting _ this street. we don't know what went on in the cabinet meeting but - this street. we don't know what went on in the cabinet meeting but we - on in the cabinet meeting but we know it has wrapped up. we saw various members of that newly reshuffled cabinet leave the black
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door behind, including of course lord david cameron. i think we have some shots that we can show you of the meeting as it was getting under way. you can see there the prime minister with members of his cabinet and it was interesting sir alan talking about the fact that david cameron will now have to be subordinate because he is no longer prime minister, although he said that he thinks he would be a very good addition to that cabinet table. we have been speaking to a number of other people about this new addition to the cabinet. a new, old addition, you might cottage. david cameron brings a great deal of experience into a specialised role as foreign secretary. it is not your normal partisan party political role. the foreign affairs world is very hierarchical. you only have to go to the conferences to see the huddles that take place
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between the senior members. you have diplomats, ambassadors and others who gather and help make decisions. the key work is done by a small group of senior players. a former prime minister carries a great deal of weight. david cameron particularly. he will be able to engage in those conversations just as james cleverly did. i agreed with alan, james was an excellent foreign secretary and will be a good home secretary in what is an extremely difficult brief. david cameron will bring world experience which he had in the past. he comes into office at a time of maximum crisis for the united kingdom. the ripples of what is happening in the middle east will not go down very quickly. this is a situation which has changed the middle east quite profoundly. it is not going back to where it was. david cameron will be
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heavily involved in that. indeed. lucy mentioned some of the key differences, in particular his position on china when he was prime minister, and of course the most obvious one, the fact he campaigned to remain in the european union in a referendum that ended up with the leave campaign winning. that was seven years ago. the fact that the country has moved on and politics has moved on is important. the prime minister understands this is a party has long been an issue, and having had somebody who was at the heart of the campaign to remain in the eu but who like virtually everybody else accepts the situation where we are is quite important. it is also important because the relationship to be built with the european community is something david cameron will be good at because people know how
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he campaigned to remain in the eu, they will know he appreciates what the eu stands for and what it does and he can work with it. it is essential for the uk moving forward that it does, so he brings that element. you say it was a number of years ago and people moved on. there are clearly lots of conversations that continue in the country and in the conservative party and there will be brexiteers who want to ensure that lord cameron delivers that promise to the letter of what they want. the prime minister and foreign secretary will set the policy for brexit. you are trying to stir up the old in and out argument i don't think you will be very successful. there is no political drive to reopen the referendum or anything like that. the labour party isn't campaigning for it. we deal with the consequences of the vote by the british people.
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david cameron didn't vote for it and nor did i. we now have a situation where we are working with our partners on the continent and need to continue to do so. bringing him back into a conservative government gives the conservative party a clear hint that anyone who does want to keep the embers alive of the argument should really recognise that it is in the country's interest that we move into a position of working closely with our partners from a position outside the eu. david cameron will represent that position perfectly well. sharing his thoughts there on that big, new appointment to the cabinet. the umbrellas up here in downing street because the rain is falling fairly heavily now. it didn't
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yesterday, which was a good job, as people were going with more frequency. peter, the cabinet meeting hasjust finished, we frequency. peter, the cabinet meeting has just finished, we don't really know what was discussed but we did see the prime minister set out what he wanted from his newly reshuffled team. he out what he wanted from his newly reshuffled team.— out what he wanted from his newly reshuffled team. he used that word chan . e reshuffled team. he used that word change which _ reshuffled team. he used that word change which is _ reshuffled team. he used that word change which is interesting - reshuffled team. he used that word change which is interesting having l change which is interesting having just brought the former prime minister back to the top of cabinet. i don't think this will reign on david cameron's parade, he is still very much the talk of westminster today. a lot of conservatives speculating about what was said about the direction of travel of government, perhaps a pivot towards the centre ground. journalists hear shouting at the cabinet ministers coming out. they never really answer our questions but we try anyway. things like who stood up for the red wall, the traditional seats that went for a for the first time. very little answer on that. in the past
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few minutes, we have had more appointments tojunior few minutes, we have had more appointments to junior levels of government, this is to the web's office which is responsible for enforcing party discipline, effectively the eyes and ears of the prime minister and there are a few red wall mps who have been appointed to that. it is quite interesting, and attempt to keep those newly elected mps, some of those who might be leaning to the right of the party, on site, the likes of mark jenkinson and mark fletcher, stuart anderson or getting jobs in the web's office. the line the sum from the conservative party chairman richard holden is that the tory party still has the broad church in representing all of the traditions that it always has. hat representing all of the traditions that it always has.— representing all of the traditions that it always has. not everyone is ha - with that it always has. not everyone is happy with the _ that it always has. not everyone is happy with the changes _ that it always has. not everyone is happy with the changes and - that it always has. not everyone is happy with the changes and of - that it always has. not everyone is i happy with the changes and of course the sacking of suella braverman. it only happened yesterday but we heard from andrewjenkins yesterday for example who was critical of the sacking. how widely is that sentiment shared by other mps in the party?
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sentiment shared by other mps in the .a ? , �* sentiment shared by other mps in the -a 7 , ~ g ~ , sentiment shared by other mps in the -a ? , �* g ~ , ., party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is — party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is a _ party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is a bit _ party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is a bit of— party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is a bit of a _ party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is a bit of a lone - party? yes, andrew jenkins at the moment is a bit of a lone voice . party? yes, andrewjenkins at the j moment is a bit of a lone voice in, after putting in a letter of no confidence in the prime minister. 53 letters are needed for that, we are nowhere near that territory so she should not overstate herfeelings here but there are plenty of tories that think, that are concerned about the messages that the sacking of suella braverman centre because they believe she speaks to a certain consistency in the country. they believe she tells the truth on a range of different subjects. she has of course made controversial comments about homeless people, about the recent marches we have seen here in london and other cities up seen here in london and other cities up and down the country. also interesting to note that the newspaper article that she wrote last week in the times in which she accused the metropolitan police of bias in the way was placing those protests, they will have been the final straw but it seems rishi sunak
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had made that decision beforehand and he had been discussing the potential return of david cameron with the former prime minister it weaker so ago and a process had been put under that takes several days, that he has approved a place in house of lords and approved to be a minister so that decision had been some days in the making. haste minister so that decision had been some days in the making. have we heard from — some days in the making. have we heard from the _ some days in the making. have we heard from the labour _ some days in the making. have we heard from the labour of _ some days in the making. have we heard from the labour of the - some days in the making. have we | heard from the labour of the labour party, sir keir starmer? we have heard from others including rachel reeves but have we heard anything from the labour party? hat reeves but have we heard anything from the labour party?— from the labour party? not keir starmer specifically, _ from the labour party? not keir starmer specifically, i _ from the labour party? not keir starmer specifically, i don't - from the labour party? not keir. starmer specifically, i don't think, but certainly the labour party jumping on the idea that rishi sunak is trying to talk about change, as he did at the top of the cabinet meeting, and yet he has brought back someone from the not—too—distant past and so it is difficult for him to make that argument they are also making the case that whoever is sat around that big green table in the building behind me, it doesn't matter in terms of what is happening out there in the country, what matters to voters is that after 13
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years of the conservative party, peoples lives have got worse, public services or any worse state etc and these are the argument is we will hear continually over the next while towards the next general election. there's a concern about the pivot towards the centre ground because they need to set themselves up as having something different. just as we are wrapping — having something different. just as we are wrapping op _ having something different. just as we are wrapping up that _ having something different. just as we are wrapping up that chat, - having something different. just as. we are wrapping up that chat, larry, the cat is waiting to go into the door sometimes some of us pass the time monitoring larry's movements. of course, the next big calendar event this week will be a prime minister's questions on wednesday where we will see rishi sunak inevitably get some questions about his new cabinet but of course we will not see david cameron sitting in the chamber because lord cameron is in house of lords, not a member of parliament. the cabinet meeting has wrapped up for the morning. the
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various monsters have gone back to their government departments to get back to work. that i see what they come up with. scientists giving the advice that chickenpox vaccination should be given to children. they said the job would give —— might be given to youngsters when they are 12 months and 18 months. they said data would dramatically reduce chickenpox and prevent most of the cases in children. they also recommended a temporary catch—up programme for older children to be included and so the department of health and social care side they are now looking into this recommendation. the vaccine is given in other countries including the us and australia. very much looking at that data. there had been
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concerns from others that it needed because children would have an unity to that, possibly in later life, they could then get chickenpox and possibly shingles. so, concerns around that but we will get some analysis on why the decision has been made later on today. more than 500 earthquakes were recorded in south—west iceland on monday — shaking houses, damaging roads, and leading to hundreds of evacuations. the tremors indicate a volcanic eruption may happen in the next few days. a nearby town has already been evacuated. an eruption of another volcano in 2010 led to the cancellation of tens of thousands of flights — although experts do not believe a repeat of that disruption is likely. jess parker is in reykjavik. there has been a couple of things going on that have been particularly marked. these tremors, you mentioned hundreds of them, actually thousands have been felt in iceland, but italy
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in the south—west area over recent weeks. the big fear at the moment is that the town which has been completely evacuated, nobody is allowed to stay there at the moment, you might have seen pictures as well of really cracked roads and sinkholes in the area as well but the big fear is that actually, if and when an eruption happens, and w knows when and where that might be, but there is enough seismic activity near the town to lead to concerns that you could see very disruptive lava flows flowing through it. all those people, the 4,000 people who have had to leave their homes, they are now waiting to see what happens and whether... the are now waiting to see what happens and whether. . ._ and whether... we will keep an eye on the situation _ and whether... we will keep an eye on the situation around _ and whether... we will keep an eye on the situation around iceland - and whether... we will keep an eye on the situation around iceland and| on the situation around iceland and any impact it could have but hopefully, no disruption to travel. stay with us here on bbc news, we will have the latest from israel and from gaza on the conflict there. points for watching.
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hello again. over the next few days, the weather remains unsettled and our temperatures are really going to vary. you can see the days here, the colours, yellow representing the higher temperatures, blues representing the lower temperatures. so for the next few days, they really do flip flop in between colder and milder conditions. and then the beginning of next week, as we start to pull in more of a northerly, it turns colder again. so what we have today is this weather front continuing to pull away from the southeast, another one across the northwest. both are introducing some rain or some showers in the southeast. the rain will clear and then it's going to be a mixture of bright spells, sunshine and showers for northern ireland, wales, and england, some of them could be heavy and cloudy with the rain pushing north eastwards across scotland. although it's not going to be as windy as yesterday, it's still going to be a blustery day across england and also wales. now, through this evening and overnight, we hang on to the rain in the north. there'll be a few showers across northern ireland,
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england and wales, some clear skies as well. and under the clear skies across the north of scotland where the winds will fall lighter, in sheltered glens, it will be cold enough for a touch of frost. not so as we come further south. into tomorrow, then. tomorrow we've got this weather front bringing in some cloud and some showery outbreaks of rain across northern ireland, parts of central and southern scotland into northern england, extending down towards the wash. on either side of that, we once again are looking at some dry weather, some sunshine and just a few showers around. temperatures 7 in the north to 13 as we push down towards the south. more of a complicated picture wednesday into thursday. we've got two areas of low pressure. both of them look very much like they're coming our way. the one anchored out to the northwest is going to bring in this rain across western areas pushing east through the course of the day. and we have the other one coming up from the south bringing in some rain. it could be windy with this one as well, but that, too, is going to take its rain pushing
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east and temperatures down a touch on where we're looking at at the moment. the rain clears early doors on friday, then a lot of dry weather. it will be a cold and a frosty start with showers coming into the northwest. some of those will be wintry. and then later on, more rain piles in with strengthening winds to the southwest. temperatures eight in the north to widely ten or 11 degrees.
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live from southern israel, this is bbc news. joe biden says gaza's al—shifa hospital "must be protected", as the fighting rages ever—closer israel says it will transfer incubators to gaza, as doctors warn that newborns are suffering from a lack of supplies. i'm rajini vaidyanathan live from a very rainy downing street, where british prime minister rishi sunak has been meeting his newly reshuffled cabinet following a dramatic day. welcome to bbc news, we are coming to light from southern israel, about three kilometres from the gaza strip, where it has been once again a morning of intensive fighting,
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