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this about it for a long time, but this has been absolutely central to the government's aim of what they say stopping those small boats crossing the channel. now this decision by the channel. now this decision by the supreme court seems to have blown that the author of the water because the supreme court has made clear, unanimously that this plan is unlawful. there are big questions about what the government does now. we are expecting to hear from the prime minister, rishi sunak. he will be addressing questions from mps at prime minister's questions and then we will get a statement from the new home secretary james cleverly and there will be a press conference from rishi sunak later on this afternoon as well. be under no doubt this is a hugely significant blow to the government's plan and big questions about where they go from here. . , , ., , ., here. there has been a statement from the prime _ here. there has been a statement from the prime minister _ here. there has been a statement from the prime minister where . here. there has been a statement from the prime minister where he i here. there has been a statement l from the prime minister where he is saying, we have seen today's judgment and will consider next steps. he said, this was not the outcome we wanted. people have been
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talking about possible other options for the government but the ruling seemed to be very clear and categorical that rwanda isn't the best country for the uk to send migrants. best country for the uk to send miarants. ., , migrants. the ruling was categorical. _ migrants. the ruling was categorical. there - migrants. the ruling was categorical. there was . migrants. the ruling was - categorical. there was some suggestion it might have been more nuanced but it wasn't. there has been talk about whether the government might strengthen the agreement that it has with rwanda about rwanda's processing system but given the strength of the judgment, we don't know how the government will react. rishi sunak did make the point that crucially the supreme court, like the court of appeal and high court, has confirmed the principle of sending illegal migrants to a safe third country for processing is lawful. does that mean they will look at alternative their countries? we don't know which is why there will be focus on what rishi sunak has to say but it's worth bring you some reaction from conservative mps. one, natalie
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elphicke, the conservative mp for dover where a lot of these small boat crossings and up, she has suggested that a fresh policy is now needed, a new crush channel agreement with france to stop the boats and return those who do come to the french coast. natalie elphicke, one voice suggesting a whole new approach is needed. it's likely to reignite calls from within the conservative party to leave the european convention on human rights. there are some who have been calling for that full some time. it's a very divisive issue and it's worth noting that in thatjudgment from the supreme court, they made clear is notjust supreme court, they made clear is not just the supreme court, they made clear is notjust the european convention on human rights which is preventing this plan been awful. there are other legal agreements that do that as well but i suspect that where is as well but i suspect that where is a lot of focus and attention will land within the conservative party, and there will be a lot of pressure on rishi sunakfrom conservative backbenchers who wanted to see this plan go ahead about what he will do
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now. �* �* plan go ahead about what he will do now. �* ~ , ., ., , plan go ahead about what he will do now. �* ~ ,, ., , ., ., now. and, alex, you have set out a few possible _ now. and, alex, you have set out a few possible options _ now. and, alex, you have set out a few possible options for _ now. and, alex, you have set out a few possible options for the - few possible options for the government but we expect it's probablyjust a government but we expect it's probably just a few government but we expect it's probablyjust a few months to was the next election, does the prime minister have enough time to come up with a fresh immigration proposal policy that can put to his party in the country? we policy that can put to his party in the country?— the country? we are expecting a aeneral the country? we are expecting a general election _ the country? we are expecting a general election next _ the country? we are expecting a general election next year, - the country? we are expecting a general election next year, we l the country? we are expecting a - general election next year, we don't know if that might be next spring or autumn but there is a huge amount of time to completely change course. why this matters is because rishi sunak has made stopping the boats a very personal political priority, one of his five priorities. he has talked about it time and time again. james cleverly talked about that as being a priority when he entered the home office only a couple of days ago. although the small but numbers have come down, they haven't stopped and so there is pressure on rishi sunak to set out what he will do now as an alternative to this rwanda
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plan and we should not underestimate how much weight the government put on this plan as part of its own illegal immigration policy. they were the ones that chose to make this a priority so the fact the supreme court has ruled it is unlawful is a hugely significant blow and there is a lot of pressure on them now on where they go next and what they will do to achieve their promise that they have made of stopping those channel crossings. that is the view of the government but as we know, immigration is a key issue for voters here in the uk. what do we hear from the labour party, the lib dems about their proposals on how to handle immigration? we proposals on how to handle immigration?— proposals on how to handle immigration? proposals on how to handle immiaration? ~ ., ., ., immigration? we had reaction from o- osition immigration? we had reaction from opposition parties _ immigration? we had reaction from opposition parties who _ immigration? we had reaction from opposition parties who have - immigration? we had reaction from opposition parties who have been . opposition parties who have been critical from the outset about the government's approach to immigration. laboursays government's approach to immigration. labour says the focus needs to be on reforming the asylum system because there are huge backlogs within the system. the liberal democrats have pointed out the amount of money spent on this plan and there's not been one asylum
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seeker who has been sent to rwanda because of these legal challenges and it looks increasingly likely that will happen. there is recognition that this is an electoral issue but the real point of disagreement is how you approach it and there has been a lot of criticism from opposition parties in particular about the government's approach but crucially within the conservative party. a lot of difference and disagreement about the government's approach to this and that will really bubble up to now we've had this judgment from the supreme court. it is a real moment for rishi sunak and when he stands up for rishi sunak and when he stands up in the house of commons to answer and address his mps, there will be a lot of eyes watching closely for any signals about what their plan is an huge pressure on the prime minister for that press conference this afternoon because it was only a couple of days ago that suella braverman and the former home secretary who was sacked from the government, on her resignation she wrote that scathing letter to rishi sunak in which she criticised him for not having a plan b for this
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rwanda policy. let's see if he does. thank you very much. alex forsyth there. as alex mentioned the prime minister is due to speak at prime minister's questions at the top of the hour, so we will bring you that live here on bbc news. let's cross now to anna mcelvoy, executive editor of politico europe. what is your reaction to this ruling from the supreme court? in your reaction to this ruling from the supreme court?— your reaction to this ruling from the supreme court? in some ways i think the government _ the supreme court? in some ways i think the government must - the supreme court? in some ways i think the government must have i the supreme court? in some ways i i think the government must have been prepared for it. we know that when they tangled with the courts on immigration, they often come from but if you read the ruling and we haven't had very long to go into the detail of it, it's very clear not only in the phrasing that it is deemed to be illegal, the rwanda policy, but also, even if under this
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possible plan to leave the european convention on human rights, there would be great difficulties in the law with instituting it. you can debate that but it's come as two punches to the government when maybe one was expected. you will see quite a fightback from rishi sunak this afternoon, although he is criticised for not lean further into the rwanda policy by suella braverman, he does stand by it and has come round to the view that it is something he wants to fight on when he thinks a lot more of the electorate are on his side. ~ ., .,, ., , lot more of the electorate are on his side. ~ ., ., , ., , ., his side. what options does he have if he wants to _ his side. what options does he have if he wants to fight _ his side. what options does he have if he wants to fight it? _ his side. what options does he have if he wants to fight it? because - his side. what options does he have if he wants to fight it? because as l if he wants to fight it? because as alex mentioned, the government has set this as a key priority for it. what does he do now? he set this as a key priority for it. what does he do now?- set this as a key priority for it. what does he do now? he can amend the oli . what does he do now? he can amend the policy- he — what does he do now? he can amend the policy. he could _ what does he do now? he can amend the policy. he could say _ what does he do now? he can amend the policy. he could say there - what does he do now? he can amend the policy. he could say there are - the policy. he could say there are ways to address some of the shortfalls that the supreme court have raised. you could say, well, i
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simply don't accept the analysis that this would be illegal anyway. he could, if you like, go on legal route again. he is beginning to run out of courts. there are two ways you can do it, one is to tangle with the law and the other is to say i can make amendments and then keep it moving forward. the problem with both of those positions is that the first one, any discussion around cabinet table and beyond in the party about leaving the convention in some form, i think he might offer some temporary breach. but the court has been fairly clear that it doesn't think that would wash although it says it was not the reason for its decision, its decision doesn't rest on that. he could go into another legal entanglement. it does mean that it
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is unlikely we get flights off the ground to rwanda before the next election, at which point that then becomes another talking point in the campaign. the becomes another talking point in the cam aiun. ~ , ., , campaign. the prime minister has been criticised _ campaign. the prime minister has been criticised by _ campaign. the prime minister has been criticised by his _ campaign. the prime minister has been criticised by his former - campaign. the prime minister has| been criticised by his former home secretary about how he has handled this plan from the beginning. how do you think she is going to react? she has been positioning herself for this moment. she has been positioning herself for this moment.— has been positioning herself for this moment. she has particularly over the weekend. _ this moment. she has particularly over the weekend. what - this moment. she has particularly over the weekend. what she - this moment. she has particularly over the weekend. what she will. this moment. she has particularly i over the weekend. what she will say is you tied my hands, you didn't really support this. you said you supported it because you wanted to appeal to the hardline immigration wing of your party for which he stands and you didn't really pack this. in a sense you signed up to a policy you didn't have the guts to deliver, that may be the way she puts it and that had this been better plan from the beginning, we wouldn't be lurching from one court
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defeat to another. i think he will say, well, iwant defeat to another. i think he will say, well, i want to do everything within the law. in say, well, i want to do everything within the law.— within the law. in the context of what has been _ within the law. in the context of what has been happening - within the law. in the context of what has been happening this . within the law. in the context of- what has been happening this week, the prime minister has made big announcements, not least the cabinet reshuffle by bringing back lord cameron into the government, some have argued that maybe he is trying to turn the course of his government away from the right to the centre. could he perhaps drop this plan and may be focus on other issues? i don't think he can drop the plan, is a very clear wedge issue with labour. he is strongly associated with it. he can show he is prepared to adjust the plan, you talk about adaptability, pragmatic, getting things done. i would be surprised to see him backing off on this. remember, david cameron is foreign secretary. he is in a bit of a safe space so if there is a rebalancing
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towards what some people consider the more moderate or centrist wing of the party, i still don't think that means the death knell for this policy but i think rishi sunak not only because of what has happened in his cabinet but also what is happening in the courts, and the message that is being said will have two show he has either a workaround or fix for this. two show he has either a workaround orfix for this. i don't two show he has either a workaround or fix for this. i don't think you can simply say that's it for the rwanda policy. we can simply say that's it for the rwanda policy-— can simply say that's it for the rwanda policy. can simply say that's it for the rwanda oli . ~ �* ., ., rwanda policy. we can't forget that earlier this morning _ rwanda policy. we can't forget that earlier this morning there - rwanda policy. we can't forget that earlier this morning there was - rwanda policy. we can't forget that j earlier this morning there was good news for the government with the rate of inflation falling. how do you think he is going to tackle prime minister's questions coming up in about 30 minutes now. he has to go on fighting. what do you think a strategy will be? i go on fighting. what do you think a strategy will be?— strategy will be? i think his strate: strategy will be? i think his strategy will _ strategy will be? i think his strategy will be _ strategy will be? i think his strategy will be to - strategy will be? i think his strategy will be to talk - strategy will be? i think his strategy will be to talk a i strategy will be? i think his | strategy will be to talk a lot strategy will be? i think his - strategy will be to talk a lot about that. at first people said that was an easy target to hit and then there were a few months where it didn't
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look so easy. remember, prices are still going up but the rate at which they do so is coming down. we will hear a lot about that and it will be along the lines of, if i make a commitment, i beckett, iam prepared to wait it out, go through the tough times in order to do so. so there will be that but as it has come around, by the quote of the calendar, at the same time as another of his pledges is under massive pressure, he will say he is bringing down the volume of boats, it's questionable how much is linked to the rwanda policy but i think you will go hard at labour and say, ok, what will you do? voters don't like the small boats, some don't care or have a different opinion but i think it's a problem across the parties. he will say, if you don't like what i'm offering and you are cheering
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about this court decision, what would you do?— about this court decision, what would ou do? ., ~ ,, , . would you do? thank you very much. that was anne _ would you do? thank you very much. that was anne mcelvoy, _ would you do? thank you very much. that was anne mcelvoy, executive i that was anne mcelvoy, executive editor of politico europe. thank you forjoining us. a reminder of the breaking news over the past hour or so which is that the supreme court here in the uk in london has ruled that the government's plan of sending some asylum seekers to rwanda is unlawful. let's cross alive now to the supreme court and our correspondent alan wilkinson. —— helena wilkinson. that significantjudgment, huge blow for significant judgment, huge blow for the significantjudgment, huge blow for the government and its immigration policy. we are getting a lot of reaction to thatjudgment, a unanimous one, which ruled here at the uk's highest court, the supreme court that the government's rwanda plan, which it announced back in april last year, is unlawful. let's
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speak to and the solomon, chief executive of the refugee council. first of all, reaction to the judgment today.— first of all, reaction to the 'udument toda . , . , , judgment today. usually significant and important _ judgment today. usually significant and important and _ judgment today. usually significant and important and of _ judgment today. usually significant and important and of course - judgment today. usually significant and important and of course the i and important and of course the rightjudgment because what the supreme court has done is that it has stood up for the rights of men, women and children that come to the uk simply to be safe. they come from countries such as afghanistan, fleeing persecution, torture, death threats. they come from countries such as syria where there is civil war, and they simply want to come here to be safe and have their asylum claim heard in the uk, not to be sent as if they are human cargo to another country across the globe in africa. ~ ., to another country across the globe in africa. ~ . ., , ., in africa. what has it meant then? i mentioned there _ in africa. what has it meant then? i mentioned there have _ in africa. what has it meant then? i mentioned there have been - in africa. what has it meant then? i mentioned there have been legal. mentioned there have been legal battles, this policy, this government's plan has been through the courts for more than 18 months and ended up here with this final judgment. what has it been like for those claimants? it’s
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judgment. what has it been like for those claimants?— those claimants? it's been hugely traumatic. we _ those claimants? it's been hugely traumatic. we work _ those claimants? it's been hugely traumatic. we work with - those claimants? it's been hugely traumatic. we work with the - those claimants? it's been hugely| traumatic. we work with the men, women and children in the asylum system in the uk today and we know the threat of being sent to rwanda has caused huge distress. great trauma on the trauma they have already been through. it has affected their mental health, well—being, high levels of anxiety, we have even seen people self harming. thejudgment today we have even seen people self harming. the judgment today sent a clear message that those people should be treated, the people we work with should be treated fairly, with humanity and compassion. that is what this country is about. it is about showing that we have one shared humanity and that as a country, we should always give people the opportunity to have asylum, their case heard as an asylum, their case heard as an asylum seeker in the uk if they had to flee for their lives. i think there is a deep shock in the
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home offers. —— home offers. home office. —— the illegal migration bill depends on people being sent to somewhere like rwanda but the supreme court has ruled today rewind it is not safe so the legislation is deadin it is not safe so the legislation is dead in the water and it is really important government put plans in place to all those people we are supporting and working with in the asylum system today fairly and with humanity and compassion and says to them they will now be able to have asylum claims herod in the uk. —— herod and the uk. —— heard in the
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uk. lets go live to henry hill, the deputy editor of conservative home. i think the government will be surprised and sources told me that the government thought this was going to work and they were optimistic about winning the appeal. the programme has been ruled illegal and principal sill in theory there is thought that intensive work with rwanda to meet the concerns of the court they could get off the ground but it is now almost certain the
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rwanda scheme will not be in operation by the time of the general election which will make life politically very difficult for the prime minister who has made small boats such an important part of his policy to voters. the boats such an important part of his policy to voters-— boats such an important part of his policy to voters. the message from the government _ policy to voters. the message from the government is _ policy to voters. the message from the government is small _ policy to voters. the message from the government is small boat - the government is small boat crossing so don't compare to previous years so could he rely on other instruments to achieve the same policy? the other instruments to achieve the same policy?— other instruments to achieve the same oli ? . . , ., same policy? the challenge is what ou do same policy? the challenge is what you do with — same policy? the challenge is what you do with people _ same policy? the challenge is what you do with people who _ same policy? the challenge is what you do with people who get - same policy? the challenge is what you do with people who get here i same policy? the challenge is what. you do with people who get here and whose asylum claims and disapproved if they have disposed of that identity documents and hope you disincentive size —— disincentive five people how to come here. some mps are calling for the government to pass emergency legislation and it can pass any law that it likes but i think it would be very difficult to
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get that kind of legislation agreed and through with the time remaining to the government. without doing that it to the government. without doing thatitis to the government. without doing that it is very difficult to see what the government could do. it could invest a lot more money in processing and expanding the capacity of the home office to deal with claims and building a purpose built detention estate to prevent people absconding but their headline problem for the government is for many conservative voters the channel crossings are important and visible symbol that the government does not have immigration under control and borders under control and if it cannot deal with that many voters will be bitterly resentful at the next election.— will be bitterly resentful at the next election. how will the ruling -la out next election. how will the ruling play out amongst _ next election. how will the ruling play out amongst conservative i next election. how will the ruling i play out amongst conservative party grass roots? what will people make of it? it grass roots? what will people make of it? ., ., ., ~
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of it? it will not go down well. a stron: of it? it will not go down well. a strong majority _ of it? it will not go down well. a strong majority of _ of it? it will not go down well. a strong majority of conservative l strong majority of conservative members about the rwanda policy and are increasingly sceptical and confrontational about the courts. and the net effect of the policy will be to make a stronger case within the conservative party for review of some of the conservative party international obligations but when they are in opposition and trying to work out what happened and why did the last period in government go so badly i suspect the supreme court and the echr will be front and centre of what the conservative party plans to do when nextin conservative party plans to do when next in office. conservative party plans to do when next in office-— conservative party plans to do when next in office. members of the party want tougher— next in office. members of the party want tougher immigration _ next in office. members of the party want tougher immigration policy - next in office. members of the party want tougher immigration policy but the party will see it in stride but
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it is proving to be illegal. how does the prime minister manoeuvre around these tensions? iunlith does the prime minister manoeuvre around these tensions?— around these tensions? with the constitution _ around these tensions? with the constitution in _ around these tensions? with the constitution in this _ around these tensions? with the constitution in this country - around these tensions? with the constitution in this country it - around these tensions? with the constitution in this country it is l constitution in this country it is difficult for the government to throw its hands on the air and say it is illegal. unlike a country where there are hard limits on what parliament can do, the government simply passing a law and that the argument made by suella braverman and the argument from think tanks like policy exchange are going for a more robust piece of legislation with less opportunity for the judges. if rishi sunak hopes to continue he will have a difficult job of coming up with an explanation notjust being seen to refuse to act and use the power available to him as a prime minister with a majority to get government policies over the
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line. we to get government policies over the line. ~ ., ., to get government policies over the line. . . . ., line. we are waiting for prime minister's _ line. we are waiting for prime minister's questions - line. we are waiting for prime minister's questions to - line. we are waiting for prime minister's questions to start. | line. we are waiting for prime i minister's questions to start. we have images of the primaries that leaving that will start within the next 20 minutes. what do you think during prime minister's questions? all eyes will be on him.— all eyes will be on him. starmer will lead
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of the home secretary and will ask what the alternative is. deputy editor of conservative home. now is a senior observer stop and a
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lecturer at oxford university, what do you make of this ruling? it is oxford university, what do you make of this ruling?— of this ruling? it is a big blow to the government. _ of this ruling? it is a big blow to the government. broader - of this ruling? it is a big blow to - the government. broader deterrence based responding to small boat arrivals. it isjust based responding to small boat arrivals. it is just one part there of what needs to be a multifaceted so this was never going to be the magic bullet. but it was never going to be the magic bullet
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that would reduce boat arrivals to zero. , , ., , , , that would reduce boat arrivals to zero. , , .,, ,, ., zero. this will be a big issue for voters in the — zero. this will be a big issue for voters in the run-up _ zero. this will be a big issue for voters in the run-up to - zero. this will be a big issue for voters in the run-up to the - voters in the run—up to the election. is that cut across to fortis? do they pay attention to a variety of strategies to deal with emigration?— variety of strategies to deal with emiaration? , ., , , emigration? they do but the focus has been on _ emigration? they do but the focus has been on the _ emigration? they do but the focus has been on the rwanda _ emigration? they do but the focus has been on the rwanda policy. it| has been on the rwanda policy. it really has been at the centre of their approach. and although attitudes overall to immigration in the uk have so often there are rwanda and small boats arrivals has been the attention from people and small boat arrivals are a clear sign
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the government has lost control and very important to people when you ask in surveys when you ask about migration as control and that is really the political challenge because a very visible sign of lack of control at the uk border. take us back to the — of control at the uk border. take us back to the judgment _ of control at the uk border. take us back to the judgment from - of control at the uk border. take us back to the judgment from the - back to the judgment from the courts. back to the 'udgment from the courts. , ., my .,, back to the 'udgment from the courts. , ., my ., , ., courts. did not say it was illegal to send people _ courts. did not say it was illegal to send people to _ courts. did not say it was illegal to send people to a _ courts. did not say it was illegal to send people to a third - courts. did not say it was illegal to send people to a third worldl to send people to a third world country with said rwanda was not specifically right in this regard. do you see options of other countries that might be willing to take asylum seekers from the uk? these agreements take time and the uk has approached other countries without success and i think the resignation letter from suella
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braverman was quite instructive and she spoke about if they lose in the supreme court going back to square one and no plan b. thejudge left open the possibility of rwanda substantially improving its asylum process at the issues identified are sought fundamental, thejudge process at the issues identified are sought fundamental, the judge even raised questions of whether rwanda could be relied upon to have a properly functioning asylum process with asylum claims determined accurately and fairly. the with asylum claims determined accurately and fairly. the 'udge had talked about — accurately and fairly. the 'udge had talked about and h accurately and fairly. the 'udge had talked about and not _ accurately and fairly. the judge had talked about and not only _ accurately and fairly. the judge had talked about and not only talks - talked about and not only talks about the european convention on human rights with british law itself been part of the judgment. which
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british legislation could the judge have been referring to? i british legislation could the 'udge have been referring twh british legislation could the 'udge have been referring to? i think the most important — have been referring to? i think the most important one _ have been referring to? i think the most important one which - have been referring to? i think the most important one which gives i most important one which gives effect to the european convention of human rights is the human rights act 1998 and there was a particular article, article three, preventing people being subjected to torture or inhuman or degrading treatment so there is domestic law here that gives effect to the european convention and that was relevant in this case. thejudge convention and that was relevant in this case. the judge argued convention and that was relevant in this case. thejudge argued rwanda was not as a country because it could not process claims properly leading to arrest refugees would be returned to their countries of origin where they would be at serious risk and that would be a risk to the life or liberty. —— their life are at liberty.
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live now to yasmine ahmed, uk executive director of human rights watch. well you surprised about the focus on rwanda? irate well you surprised about the focus on rwanda?— well you surprised about the focus on rwanda? ~ ., on rwanda? we have documented the extensive human _ on rwanda? we have documented the extensive human rights _ on rwanda? we have documented the extensive human rights violations - extensive human rights violations occurring in rwanda and documented threats to extradition killings and deaths in custody and restrictions on media and politicalfreedom and the lack of independentjudiciary. we were not surprised that the court found there was a lack of independentjudiciary which meant independent judiciary which meant that
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independentjudiciary which meant that was not the ability to appropriately process asylum claims to ensure those with a right to asylum would be protected in rwanda. there was a statement from the rwanda government spokesperson who said this is the decision for the uk judiciary system that we take issue with the ruling rwanda is not a safe third country for asylum seekers. the judge third country for asylum seekers. thejudge had referred to third country for asylum seekers. the judge had referred to another agreement rwanda had with israel from 2013 and 2018. how did that play out at the time?— from 2013 and 2018. how did that play out at the time? what we know from that situation _ play out at the time? what we know from that situation is _ play out at the time? what we know from that situation is migrants, - from that situation is migrants, asylum seekers, was sent to rewind from israel, and those individuals, instead of being adequately processed and provided detection were in fact sent to neighbouring
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countries, and there was a very real risk they would then be sent back to their countries of origin because their countries of origin because their countries of origin because their countries of origin are really their countries of origin are really the only place they can go will take them. essentially, what the court said it was in previous situations like that in the context of israel and rwanda where rwanda had provided similar assurances, and rwanda where rwanda had provided similarassurances, in and rwanda where rwanda had provided similar assurances, in those situations those efficiencies were not upheld and there was a very real risk the court looked at of persons being sent back to places where they potentially would be subject to mistreatment and there was a very real risk. ., , ., . ., , real risk. other european countries that have considered _ real risk. other european countries that have considered similar- real risk. other european countries| that have considered similar plants, could this affect what they have agreed to in rwanda, whether they would hold these plans? there were suggestions — would hold these plans? there were suggestions that _ would hold these plans? there were suggestions that denmark _ would hold these plans? there were suggestions that denmark was - would hold these plans? there were l
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suggestions that denmark was looking at a similar plan with rwanda and that has not move forward and we know italy has suggested there would be an agreement with albania, although we know the agreement is different from the rwanda deal because it is not individuals would because it is not individuals would be sent to albania for processing and stay there. as with the rwanda deal, we understand the deal to be about asylum seekers being sent to albania and then processed in albania and then processed in albania by italianjudges albania and then processed in albania by italian judges who according to a law and then if granted asylum sent back to italy. we are very concerned about whatever the differences are between these policies fundamentally, governments must uphold international obligations to ensure individuals seeking protection of the right to do so and there asylum claims are
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processed in a fair and lawful manner. there is an important point about global responsibilities sharing, what seeing in europe is being shut and very concerning. joining me now is the chief political correspondent for the times, aubrey allegretti. what does this decision mean for the prime minister and government? it will put rishi sunak in a very difficult position not least with his own party. he has been able to trumpet the pledge of having inflation by the end of the year but a second major pledges to stop the boats and there were lots of conservative mps who fear for their own seats and concerned the supreme court ruling today puts that whole pledge completely in jeopardy. the
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background is suella braverman a accusing rishi sunak of not acting quickly enough in case the supreme court ruled against the rwanda plan and i have been speaking to a group of conservative mps who see it as a dark day for the british people and putting immense pressure on rishi sunak to go ahead with the plan, lee anderson saying the government should ignore the law and send the back straightaway. irate should ignore the law and send the back straightaway.— back straightaway. we had a statement — back straightaway. we had a statement from _ back straightaway. we had a statement from the - back straightaway. we had a statement from the prime . back straightaway. we had a - statement from the prime minister earlier saying they are considering their options following this judgment and we have been showing images of him leaving downing street heading to parliament for prime minister's questions which starts in ten minutes. in terms of the
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question about immigration policy, the government has put a lot of emphasis on it. how much room for manoeuvre does he have to consider other options, especially so close to an election?— other options, especially so close to an election? there is not a great deal of time _ to an election? there is not a great deal of time left _ to an election? there is not a great deal of time left because _ to an election? there is not a great deal of time left because even - to an election? there is not a great deal of time left because even if i deal of time left because even if the supreme court ruled in favour of the supreme court ruled in favour of the government it seemed acknowledged she would not see flights to rwanda depart tool january or february and suella braverman accuse the pro—minister of not working on plan b options quick enough saying otherwise the government would have lost one whole years worth. there are mps urging him to respond to the supreme court ruling that it decisively by coming out with a bill or amendment to the illegal migration act suggesting it should be notwithstanding the uk international legal obligations and also calling for an entire review of
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the uk international obligations under things like the un refugee convention mentioned by the supreme court today. those pieces of work will take a significant period of time and it is unlikely if the government bowed to the requests we would see flights before the general election. rishi sunak under immense pressure from lots of mps on its own party and facing a rupture over not just the place of the uk and the european convention of human rights but over migration policy as a whole. �* ., , but over migration policy as a whole. �* . , ., ., whole. and we have 'ust had a comment * whole. and we have 'ust had a comment coming i whole. and we have just had a comment coming from - whole. and we have just had a comment coming from the i whole. and we have just had a | comment coming from the new whole. and we have just had a - comment coming from the new home secretary james secretary ja mes cleverly secretary james cleverly saying the policy is just part of our overall
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migration policy. the policy isjust part of our overall migration policy. the migration by small balls is _ migration policy. the migration by small balls is estimated _ migration policy. the migration by small balls is estimated down i migration policy. the migration by small balls is estimated down onej small balls is estimated down one third this time last year but rishi sunak has created a rod for his own back by not promising to reduce the crossing but stop the ports in their entirety. some questions if this was possible because the number of people removed to rwanda was in the thousands and we still have tens of thousands, those numbers arriving on small boats so far. rishi thousands, those numbers arriving on small boats so far.— small boats so far. rishi sunak set himself a target _ small boats so far. rishi sunak set himself a target but _ small boats so far. rishi sunak set himself a target but there - small boats so far. rishi sunak set himself a target but there are - himself a target but there are conservative strategists who feel he was never conservative strategists who feel he was neve . , ., ., conservative strategists who feel he was neve . , ., . ~ ., was never able to meet it and know has impeded _ was never able to meet it and know has impeded himself _ was never able to meet it and know has impeded himself and _ was never able to meet it and know has impeded himself and being i was never able to meet it and know| has impeded himself and being able to get closer to it. it is has impeded himself and being able to get closer to it.— to get closer to it. it is only wednesday _ to get closer to it. it is only wednesday but _ to get closer to it. it is only wednesday but there - to get closer to it. it is only wednesday but there have | to get closer to it. it is only i wednesday but there have been to get closer to it. it is only - wednesday but there have been a lot of developments so far this week, the cabinet reshuffle being one of them. how do you think of the prime
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minister can frame these developments? is the decision today going to overshadow his attempts to refocus his cabinet and government? i suspect in part suella braverman released her resignation letter yesterday to try to deflect blame for the decision taken today. you might have expected if she were still in her post questions to be asked about her position and the government because of where she was, the home secretary enacting this policy for the last 1a or 15 months. instead she has been on the outside, cast away from the government and able to level potshots claiming the government has not taken seriously her plans for policy and actions for a better plan b. the government has james cleverly as home secretary, doing all he can to show those on the conservative right that they're doing all they can to migration can
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be teamed and ultimately i think the cabinet reshuffle will fall by the wayside, it is very personality led and a few people obsess over it for and a few people obsess over it for a few days but this judgment from the supreme court will take precedence because of its implications for the government. prime minister's questions is due to start injust a prime minister's questions is due to start in just a few minutes. we will bring you that. correspondent ann soy. what have the rwanda government said? , t, what have the rwanda government said? , . , , ., said? they have said this is a decision of _ said? they have said this is a decision of the _ said? they have said this is a decision of the uk _ said? they have said this is a decision of the ukjudicial i said? they have said this is a - decision of the ukjudicial system, decision of the uk judicial system, essentially trying to distance themselves from that position and
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they are not on trial. the comments that were made and the judgment was very critical of the record, so it was a strong indictment on the rwanda judicial system and the rwanda judicial system and the rwanda leadership. the spokesperson issued a statement saying that they take issue particularly with the statement that rwanda is not a safe country for asylum seekers and seeing she disputes, she says rwanda is one of the safest countries in this part of the world. i don't imagine when the rwanda government attended to the steel and april last year they would have anticipated that this is how it would end. it looked like brilliant plan from their point of view, something that looked good on rwanda, but it has had the opposite impact on the image
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of rwanda and this is something the government is now grappling with. we want to let viewers know we are waiting for the prime minister to speak on this supreme courtjudgment shortly and we are seeing pictures live from the house of commons where pro ministers questions is due to start injust a pro ministers questions is due to start in just a few minutes. you have been to rwanda where you have seen the preparations the government there has been making in conjunction with the uk government to host asylum seekers. rwanda was getting ready for this plan to come into action. ,, ., , ., ., ., , action. shortly after the deal was sitned in action. shortly after the deal was signed in april— action. shortly after the deal was signed in april last _ action. shortly after the deal was signed in april last year - action. shortly after the deal was signed in april last year the - signed in april last year the government said it was ready to receive those asylum seekers and the hostel had been prepared to accommodate some of them including separate accommodation that had three and four bedroomed houses with
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it would be interesting to see what happens to that. it's important also to mention there were around 140 million dollars involved in the steel for economic support to wonder as a result of agreeing to host those asylum seekers so it will be interesting to know from both governments and the fate of that money. we were speaking about the government spokesperson, they have been very keen to paint the image of a country trying to solve the global migration crisis and seeing that they would in rwanda understand the plate as they had fled the country following the genocide of 1994 and therefore welcoming this as part of creating a solution and we have seen
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some part of the solution is a government has taken in the recent past propping up the image and taking in a private girls school from afghanistan to continue their studies there in 2021. more recently they have taken in medical students from sudan as well.— from sudan as well. thank you very much. live now to our political correspondent, alex forsyth in westminster. set the scene ahead of prime minister's questions. mp5 set the scene ahead of prime minister's questions. mps gathering in the house — minister's questions. mps gathering in the house of _ minister's questions. mps gathering in the house of commons _ minister's questions. mps gathering in the house of commons where i minister's questions. mps gathering. in the house of commons where rishi sunak will take questions from mps and this will come up because that is really significant pressure on the prime minister now, not least from his own backbench mps to see what he does next because this rwanda policy was such a central plank of the government immigration plank of the government immigration plan and no the supreme court has ruled it unlawful so that i big
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questions about where the political shall hear lots of conservative backbenchers already suggesting this is an issue of real significance for them in terms of their support for rishi sunak and what he does next they will look very closely and what he says it prime minister's questions. i can see those pictures of commons where we are expecting a pay minister to get his feet. after that we will get a statement from the home secretary james cleverly, only a couple of days into the job and having to respond to the judgment and later we will have a press conference from rishi sunak in downing street where there will be a lot of focus on what he has to say on where the government goes from here. we on where the government goes from here. ~ , ., here. we understand the prime minister has _ here. we understand the prime minister has just _ here. we understand the prime minister hasjust arrived - here. we understand the prime minister hasjust arrived so i here. we understand the prime minister hasjust arrived so as i here. we understand the prime i minister hasjust arrived so as soon minister has just arrived so as soon as he gets to his feet we will go straight to the house. so the prime minister is speaking now. tatiana;r straight to the house. so the prime minister is speaking now.— minister is speaking now. today we have delivered _ minister is speaking now. today we have delivered on _ minister is speaking now. today we have delivered on that. _
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minister is speaking now. today we have delivered on that. there - have delivered on that. there remains more to do but this is a strong step forward. they confirmed the principle of removing asylum seekers to a safe third country is lawful. there are further elements that they want additional certainty on and noted that changes can be delivered in the future to address those issues. the government has been working already on a new treaty with rwanda and we will finalise that in light of today's judgment and furthermore, if necessary, i am today's judgment and furthermore, if necessary, iam prepared today's judgment and furthermore, if necessary, i am prepared to revisit our domestic legal frameworks. let me assure the house my commitment to stopping the boats is unwavering. my right honourable friend the home secretary will be making a statement shortly to the house. this morning i had meetings with ministerial colleagues. i shall have further such meetings later today. when the
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prime minister _ such meetings later today. when the prime minister took _ such meetings later today. when the prime minister took office _ such meetings later today. when the prime minister took office he - prime minister took office he promised to lead the government marred _ promised to lead the government marred lty— promised to lead the government marred by integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level. what _ and accountability at every level. what is it — and accountability at every level. what is it about the judgment of david _ what is it about the judgment of david cameron on his lobbying for chinese _ david cameron on his lobbying for chinese state interests that make the prime — chinese state interests that make the prime minister consider him to be a suitable candidate as foreign secretary? mr be a suitable candidate as foreign secreta ? ~ ,, , ., ~ ., secretary? mr speaker, i am delighted — secretary? mr speaker, i am delighted that _ secretary? mr speaker, i am delighted that the _ secretary? mr speaker, i am delighted that the former i secretary? mr speaker, i am i delighted that the former prime minister has rejoined government. he brings an unrivalled experience and relationships across the world and will do a fantasticjob championing british interest everywhere he goes. tackling illegal immigration is a crucial— tackling illegal immigration is a crucial issue for my constituents, many _ crucial issue for my constituents, many of — crucial issue for my constituents, many of whom will be extremely disappointed at this morning's judgment from the supreme court. it is the _ judgment from the supreme court. it is the prime — judgment from the supreme court. it is the prime minister able to update the house _ is the prime minister able to update the house on what this decision means— the house on what this decision means for— the house on what this decision means for the government's plan to tackle _ means for the government's plan to
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tackle illegal immigration? canl tackle illegal immigration? can i thank my honourable _ tackle illegal immigration? cam i thank my honourable friend for this question. i know he has championed this issue and it matters to his constituents. thejudgment this issue and it matters to his constituents. the judgment confirms that the principle of removing asylum seekers to a safe third country is lawful. we have been working on a new treaty with rwanda which we will fight —— finalise. if it becomes clear that our domestic legal frameworks or international conventions are still frustrating plans, i am conventions are still frustrating plans, iam prepared conventions are still frustrating plans, i am prepared to change our laws and revisit those international relationships. the british people expect us to do whatever it takes to stop the boats and that is precisely what this government will deliver. the leader of the opposition, keir starmen — the leader of the opposition, keir starmer. ., ~ , ., ~ the leader of the opposition, keir starmer. ., ~ ~ .,~ starmer. thank you, mr speaker. the prime minister _ starmer. thank you, mr speaker. the prime minister obviously _ starmer. thank you, mr speaker. the prime minister obviously thinks - starmer. thank you, mr speaker. the prime minister obviously thinks so i prime minister obviously thinks so little of— prime minister obviously thinks so little of his own mps that he's had to peel— little of his own mps that he's had to peel david cameron away from his seven-year— to peel david cameron away from his seven—year excel in a shepherds hut and make _ seven—year excel in a shepherds hut and make him foreign secretary. but
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and make him foreign secretary. but a few_ and make him foreign secretary. but a few months ago the intelligence and security committee said that the now foreign secretary's role in a chinese — now foreign secretary's role in a chinese investment fund may have been, _ chinese investment fund may have been. and — chinese investment fund may have been, and this is their words, engineered by the chinese state. i hardly— engineered by the chinese state. i hardly need to remind the prime minister— hardly need to remind the prime minister of the threat posed by the chinese _ minister of the threat posed by the chinese communist party or the intimidation against members of this house _ intimidation against members of this house so _ intimidation against members of this house. so when will he instruct the foreign— house. so when will he instruct the foreign secretary to give full public — foreign secretary to give full public disclosure of his work for chinese — public disclosure of his work for chinese interests? as public disclosure of his work for chinese interests? asi public disclosure of his work for chinese interests?— public disclosure of his work for chinese interests? as i said, i am deli t hted chinese interests? as i said, i am delighted the _ chinese interests? as i said, i am delighted the former _ chinese interests? as i said, i am delighted the former prime - chinese interests? as i said, i am i delighted the former prime minister has rejoined government as foreign secretary. as an individual with unrivalled experience, he will help britain navigate an uncertain world in challenging times. of course, like every other government minister, he will go through the normal process with the independent adviser but the government 's position on china is clear. china
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presents a challenge which is why we have taken presents a challenge which is why we have ta ken steps to protect ourselves against a risk it poses. but we will take no lessons from the labour party on protecting national security. they have taken £700,000 from an alleged chinese agent. mr speaker, four... sorry? _ from an alleged chinese agent. mr speaker, four... sorry? yes, - from an alleged chinese agent. mr speaker, four... sorry? yes, i- from an alleged chinese agent. mr. speaker, four... sorry? yes, ithink now you're — speaker, four... sorry? yes, ithink now you're on _ speaker, four... sorry? yes, ithink now you're on the _ speaker, four... sorry? yes, ithink now you're on the front _ speaker, four... sorry? yes, ithink now you're on the front bench, - speaker, four... sorry? yes, ithink now you're on the front bench, you | now you're on the front bench, you need _ now you're on the front bench, you need to— now you're on the front bench, you need to stand _ now you're on the front bench, you need to stand down. _ now you're on the front bench, you need to stand down. for— now you're on the front bench, you need to stand down.— now you're on the front bench, you need to stand down. for someone who s-ent the need to stand down. for someone who spent the last — need to stand down. for someone who spent the last few _ need to stand down. for someone who spent the last few weeks _ need to stand down. for someone who spent the last few weeks complaining. spent the last few weeks complaining about recycling bins, it's ironic that— about recycling bins, it's ironic that his — about recycling bins, it's ironic that his latest research involves recycling — that his latest research involves recycling the architects of 13 years of tory _ recycling the architects of 13 years of tory failure. but this is the prime — of tory failure. but this is the prime minister who also reanimated the career— prime minister who also reanimated the career of the member for fareham in order— the career of the member for fareham in order to _ the career of the member for fareham in order to resuscitate his own, 'ust in order to resuscitate his own, just days — in order to resuscitate his own, just days after she was sacked for a national— just days after she was sacked for a national security breach. is he ashamed _ national security breach. is he ashamed that he was so desperate to
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become _ ashamed that he was so desperate to become tory leader, so scared to face a _ become tory leader, so scared to face a vote — become tory leader, so scared to face a vote that he put someone so totally _ face a vote that he put someone so totally unfit for office in charge of britain's national security? mr he of britain's national security? he mentions of britain's national security? ii he mentions 13 years, we of britain's national security? i he mentions 13 years, we remember what happened at the beginning of that 13 years. it was this party that 13 years. it was this party that restored this country's financial security after the labour party no money behind. and it is a bit rich to take lectures on security from a man who wanted to make the former member for islington north prime minister of our country. the memberfor islington north isn't the member for islington north isn't even an_ the member for islington north isn't even an labour mp a changed party and strong — even an labour mp a changed party and strong leadership. with even an labour mp a changed party and strong leadership.— even an labour mp a changed party and strong leadership. with a lot of business today, _ and strong leadership. with a lot of business today, very _ and strong leadership. with a lot of business today, very important - business today, very important business. — business today, very important business, with— business today, very important business, with important- business today, very important business, with important votesi business today, very important - business, with important votes and i want to— business, with important votes and i want to get— business, with important votes and i want to get through _ business, with important votes and i want to get through this _ business, with important votes and i want to get through this speedily. i want to get through this speedily. keir starmer _ want to get through this speedily. keir starmer. for— want to get through this speedily. keir starmer. for 13— want to get through this speedily. keir starmer. for 13 years - want to get through this speedily. keir starmer. for 13 years our- keir starmer. for 13 years our security— keir starmer. for 13 years our security has been undermined by this tory government and now the most
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ridiculous, — tory government and now the most ridiculous, pathetic spectacle of all. ridiculous, pathetic spectacle of alt his— ridiculous, pathetic spectacle of all. his rwanda scheme, cooked up with his _ all. his rwanda scheme, cooked up with his national security threat home _ with his national security threat home secretary, has blown up. he was told over_ home secretary, has blown up. he was told over and _ home secretary, has blown up. he was told over and over again that this would _ told over and over again that this would happen that it wouldn't work and ii— would happen that it wouldn't work and it was— would happen that it wouldn't work and it wasjust would happen that it wouldn't work and it was just the latest tory gimmick, _ and it was just the latest tory gimmick, but he bet everything on it and now_ gimmick, but he bet everything on it and how he — gimmick, but he bet everything on it and now he is totally exposed. the central _ and now he is totally exposed. the central pillar of his government has crumbled _ central pillar of his government has crumbled beneath him. does he want to apologise to the country for wasting — to apologise to the country for wasting £140 million of taxpayer cash and — wasting £140 million of taxpayer cash and wasting his entire time in office? _ cash and wasting his entire time in office? , ., , , , office? obviously the person o- osite office? obviously the person opposite didn't _ office? obviously the person opposite didn't hear - office? obviously the person opposite didn't hear what. office? obviously the person opposite didn't hear what i l office? obviously the person i opposite didn't hear what i said about our approach to rwanda and not least when it comes to stopping the boats, it is one part of our plan which has already delivered a reduction in the number of small boats by a third, but he talks about apologising, talks about the former member not being a labour mp now.
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yes, he wasn't a labour mp when he declined 15 different times to say that hamas was a terrorist organisation this week, but he was a labour mp, organisation this week, but he was a labourmp, indeed organisation this week, but he was a labour mp, indeed the honourable gentleman served with him. he told the country he would make a great prime minister. at that point he described hamas a friend. does he want to apologise for that now? pare want to apologise for that now? are we serious? — want to apologise for that now? are we serious? because i'm going to ieiim _ we serious? because i'm going to ieiim i_ we serious? because i'm going to tell... i wouldn't _ we serious? because i'm going to tell... i wouldn't challenge. - we serious? because i'm going to tell... i wouldn't challenge. i'm . tell... i wouldn't challenge. i'm going _ tell... i wouldn't challenge. i'm going to — tell... i wouldn't challenge. i'm going to say, _ tell... iwouldn't challenge. i'm going to say, our— tell... i wouldn't challenge. i'm going to say, our constituents i tell... i wouldn't challenge. i'm . going to say, our constituents are watching — going to say, our constituents are watching this, _ going to say, our constituents are watching this, the _ going to say, our constituents are watching this, the very— going to say, our constituents are l watching this, the very constituents are concerned — watching this, the very constituents are concerned about _ watching this, the very constituents are concerned about the _ watching this, the very constituents are concerned about the affairs - are concerned about the affairs today, — are concerned about the affairs today, they _ are concerned about the affairs today. they are _ are concerned about the affairs today, they are very _ are concerned about the affairs today, they are very concerned j are concerned about the affairs - today, they are very concerned about the votes _ today, they are very concerned about the votes tater — today, they are very concerned about the votes later. a _ today, they are very concerned about the votes later. a lot _ today, they are very concerned about the votes later. a lot of _ today, they are very concerned about the votes later. a lot of members - the votes later. a lot of members wish _ the votes later. a lot of members wish to— the votes later. a lot of members wish to speak _ the votes later. a lot of members wish to speak. those _ the votes later. a lot of members wish to speak. those who - the votes later. a lot of members wish to speak. those who don't . the votes later. a lot of members i wish to speak. those who don't want that to _ wish to speak. those who don't want that to happen, _ wish to speak. those who don't want that to happen, please _ wish to speak. those who don't want that to happen, please go— wish to speak. those who don't want that to happen, please go outside, l that to happen, please go outside, io that to happen, please go outside, go and _ that to happen, please go outside, go and have — that to happen, please go outside, go and have a _ that to happen, please go outside, go and have a conversation - that to happen, please go outside, go and have a conversation there. i go and have a conversation there. you want — go and have a conversation there. you want to— go and have a conversation there. you want to bawl_ go and have a conversation there. you want to bawl and _ go and have a conversation there. you want to bawl and shout, - go and have a conversation there. you want to bawl and shout, do. go and have a conversation there. you want to bawl and shout, do itj you want to bawl and shout, do it elsewhere — you want to bawl and shout, do it elsewhere trut— you want to bawl and shout, do it elsewhere but it _ you want to bawl and shout, do it elsewhere but it won't _ you want to bawl and shout, do it elsewhere but it won't be - you want to bawl and shout, do it. elsewhere but it won't be happening here today — elsewhere but it won't be happening here today i'rn _ elsewhere but it won't be happening here toda . �* ., ., , here today. i'm so glad he agrees this is a change _
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here today. i'm so glad he agrees this is a change labour— here today. i'm so glad he agrees this is a change labour party. - here today. i'm so glad he agrees| this is a change labour party. and white _ this is a change labour party. and white he _ this is a change labour party. and while he was wasting his time on this gimmick, the asylum backlog has swotien— this gimmick, the asylum backlog has swoiten to _ this gimmick, the asylum backlog has swollen to 175,000 people. taxpayers are paying _ swollen to 175,000 people. taxpayers are paying £8 million a day on hotel bills are paying £8 million a day on hotel hills and _ are paying £8 million a day on hotel bills and 615 people arrived by smatt— bills and 615 people arrived by small boat last sunday alone. plan a has failed _ small boat last sunday alone. plan a has failed. and after this session, whether— has failed. and after this session, whether he — has failed. and after this session, whether he likes it or not, he would have to _ whether he likes it or not, he would have to go — whether he likes it or not, he would have to go back to the drawing board and start _ have to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. can he assure — and start from scratch. can he assure the _ and start from scratch. can he assure the british public that he will assure the british public that he wiit drop— assure the british public that he will drop what his former home secretary— will drop what his former home secretary calls his magical thinking and start— secretary calls his magical thinking and start treating small boat crossings with the seriousness that they deserve? he crossings with the seriousness that they deserve?— they deserve? he talks about a chane they deserve? he talks about a change labour— they deserve? he talks about a change labour party _ they deserve? he talks about a change labour party but - they deserve? he talks about a change labour party but as - they deserve? he talks about a change labour party but as we | they deserve? he talks about a i change labour party but as we will see, he cannot make his party do the right thing when it comes to standing by israel in the vote later today. it talks about taking small
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boats crossing seriously, he has opposed every single measure that we have taken. let me update him on what we have done this year. the number of illegal albania arrivals down by 90%, 20,000 people returned this year, the number of crossings down by a third, he mentioned hotels, closing 50 of them, money being saved, all opposed by the party opposite. what does the honourable gentleman have as a plan? a cosy deal with the eu which would see the uk accept 100,000 illegal migrants. he doesn't want to stop the boats, he wants to welcome more of them! it’s the boats, he wants to welcome more of them! �* , , the boats, he wants to welcome more of them! 3 , , ., ., ., of them! it's very straightforward, he promised _ of them! it's very straightforward, he promised that _ of them! it's very straightforward, he promised that he _ of them! it's very straightforward, he promised that he would - of them! it's very straightforward, he promised that he would stop i of them! it's very straightforward, l he promised that he would stop the troats_ he promised that he would stop the boats this _ he promised that he would stop the boats this year. today is the 15th of november. he has wasted all of his time _ of november. he has wasted all of his time on— of november. he has wasted all of his time on a gimmick and now he is absolutely— his time on a gimmick and now he is absolutely nowhere. will he level
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with the — absolutely nowhere. will he level with the british public and finally admit _ with the british public and finally admit he — with the british public and finally admit he has failed to deliver on his promise?— admit he has failed to deliver on his promise? this government has done more — his promise? this government has done more to _ his promise? this government has done more to tackle _ his promise? this government has done more to tackle illegal- done more to tackle illegal migration than any in the past and again, let's review. he has been on the wrong side of this issue his entire career. this is a man who described all immigration law is racist. he said it was a mistake to control immigration and he has never once in this place voted for structure asylum rules. it's clear why he might want to listen to the open board activist, i am siding with the british people. i open board activist, i am siding with the british people.- with the british people. i would have thought — with the british people. i would have thought he _ with the british people. i would have thought he was _ with the british people. i would have thought he was confidentl with the british people. i would - have thought he was confident about his promise he would have given an answer— his promise he would have given an answer say— his promise he would have given an answer say his stance by and will deliver— answer say his stance by and will deliver try— answer say his stance by and will deliver by the end of the year, but the absence of that answer is absolutely amazing in the circumstances. he has had three reshuffles, a forgotten conference
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speech, _ reshuffles, a forgotten conference speech, an empty kings speech, he even found — speech, an empty kings speech, he even found time to flamboyant elon musk— even found time to flamboyant elon musk trut— even found time to flamboyant elon musk but not one of them has made the slightest difference for the lives _ the slightest difference for the lives of — the slightest difference for the lives of working people. if we had a pound _ lives of working people. if we had a pound for— lives of working people. if we had a pound for every reset, the cost of living _ pound for every reset, the cost of living crisis— pound for every reset, the cost of living crisis would be over long ago _ living crisis would be over long ago he — living crisis would be over long ago. he likes to think of himself as the man— ago. he likes to think of himself as the man from silicon valley, the tech _ the man from silicon valley, the tech savvy— the man from silicon valley, the tech savvy californian, the country's _ tech savvy californian, the country's first ai pm and yet his bil country's first ai pm and yet his big idea — country's first ai pm and yet his big idea is — country's first ai pm and yet his big idea is to keep turning his government on and off and hope we will see _ government on and off and hope we will see signs of life. is he... is he starting _ will see signs of life. is he... is he starting to feel that as somebody once said _ he starting to feel that as somebody once said he was the future once? i once said he was the future once? slightly once said he was the future once? i slightly missed the end of that but i've got to say i was glad to hear finally he did bring up the cost of
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living, because on that he is right. it is the number one challenge facing families about what he failed to recognise and he talked about living on promises, today was a day we delivered to halve inflation. delivering on a commitment, easing the burden forfamilies up delivering on a commitment, easing the burden for families up and delivering on a commitment, easing the burden forfamilies up and down the burden forfamilies up and down the country. what we would see from the country. what we would see from the party opposite is everything we jeopardise that progress, barring £28 billion a year, undermining our energy security, giving into inflation busting pay rises to his union backers. that's not a sensible plan. it would push up mortgage rates, push up inflation, hard—working families, all the while we will continue delivering for the country. we will continue delivering for the count . ., ., country. now for something completely _ country. now for something completely different, - country. now for something i completely different, question country. now for something - completely different, question four. i'm completely different, question four. i'm sure _ completely different, question four. i'm sure my— completely different, question four. i'm sure my friend—macro will be delighted the west midlands now tops regional rankings for foreign direct
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investment. the government is also significantly investing in the region including hundreds of millions of pounds for levelling up funds and towns fund investments and introducing a new pilot scheme to help businesses in the region become more energy efficient. flan help businesses in the region become more energy efficient. can i help businesses in the region become more energy efficient.— more energy efficient. can i thank more energy efficient. can i thank my honourable — more energy efficient. can i thank my honourable friend _ more energy efficient. can i thank my honourable friend for- more energy efficient. can i thank my honourable friend for that - my honourable friend for that encouraging answer and on behalf of my constituents in lichfield, may i thank— my constituents in lichfield, may i thank him — my constituents in lichfield, may i thank him for having the guts to actually— thank him for having the guts to actually stop hsz. but can i ask that the — actually stop hsz. but can i ask that the area within my constituency in the _ that the area within my constituency in the north, — that the area within my constituency in the north, where construction is still going — in the north, where construction is still going on, that this happened swiftly— still going on, that this happened swiftly and that those areas which are not— swiftly and that those areas which are not going to have hsz compensation is also made swiftly to those _ compensation is also made swiftly to those people who are expecting it? can i those people who are expecting it? can i thank— those people who are expecting it? can i thank my honourable friend for his question and for his consistent campaigning. i'd like to reassure him we are committed to fair treatment for people affected by the
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changes whilst also protecting taxpayers appropriately. where the property has being acquired, compensation has been paid. we will ensure it delivers value for money, does not disrupt property markets and i will meet with the minister quickly under half of his constituents. the minister will meet with his constituents. mr the minister will meet with his constituents.— the minister will meet with his constituents. ~ ,,, ., ,, ::' :: constituents. mr speaker, in 2010, that then prime _ constituents. mr speaker, in 2010, that then prime minister _ constituents. mr speaker, in 2010, that then prime minister and - constituents. mr speaker, in 2010, that then prime minister and now | that then prime minister and now foreign secretary david cameron said that people in gaza are living under constant attack and pressure in an open air prison. does the current prime minister not agree that if there is not an immediate ceasefire then all of us in this chamber will be watching on as that open—air prison is turned into a graveyard? mr speaker, no one can deny the suffering that the people in gaza are undergoing at the moment. i
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spoke about this on monday and i spoke about this on monday and i spoke about this on monday and i spoke about it consistently with the president of the palestinian authority, which is why we are doing everything we can to get aid into the region, and we have repeatedly and consistently called for humanitarian pauses to get aid in and to get hostages and those that need to get out as quickly as possible, and we will continue to make sure that happens. how much worse does it need to get? 4609 children are already died in gaza. babies in a neonatal intensive care unit are dying because they don't have access to oxygen. for members across the house this is a question of values. and it is a question of values. and it is a question of values. and it is a question of conscience. so does the prime minister not agree that it should there be a vote on an immediate ceasefire, that members across the house should be afforded across the house should be afforded a free vote? mr across the house should be afforded a free vote?—
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a free vote? mr speaker, our osition a free vote? mr speaker, our position as — a free vote? mr speaker, our position as a _ a free vote? mr speaker, our position as a government - a free vote? mr speaker, our position as a government is l a free vote? mr speaker, our- position as a government is clear on this. it is right that israel is able to defend itself. that principle is one which we support. it has suffered an appalling terrorist attack. hamas is a terrorist attack. hamas is a terrorist organisation. it is not just israel pass right by duty to defend its citizens. at the same time we have consistently at the un and unilaterally with all our partners, called for more aid, call for hostages and nationals to get out. that is the right thing to do. we will do everything we can to alleviate the suffering the palestinian people are going. i am confident that our efforts are making a big difference on the ground. making a big difference on the round. ., , making a big difference on the round. ~' , ., . ., ground. kirklees council have closed dewsbury spa _ ground. kirklees council have closed dewsbury spa centre, _ ground. kirklees council have closed dewsbury spa centre, delivered - ground. kirklees council have closed dewsbury spa centre, delivered just| dewsbury spa centre, delivered just 14% of educational health care plans within 20 week target. they are unable to deliver a five year land supply. just three of its many failings. now they want to introduce extortionate car park charges, punishing hard—working families and destroying the high street in our
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towns and villages. would my right honourable friend agree with me that the labour run kirklees council is no longer fit for purpose? mr speaker, i share my honourable friend because my disappointment with the labour run council in kirklees. just my —— just this week we saw her kirklees counsellor suspended for anti—semitism. they have already closed the sport centre and are proposing to increase parking charges, punishing local businesses and shoppers in the run—up to christmas. the council is clearly no longer fit for purpose and local residents deserve better. last week members from across the house heard testimony from a young israeli man who lost both of his piece campaigning parents in the october the 7th attack. this morning, we heard from palestinians who have lost generations of families in the south of gaza because of the military attacks there. this is a question of humanity and morality. the prime
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minister has an opportunity to lead the calls for peace, or indoors death, violence and destruction. which will he choose? mr speaker, i think that is an extremely naive and simplistic way... what he failed to mention in his question was the fact that a proscribed terrorist organisation perpetrated an awful, awful attack, and over 1000 individuals and israel has every right to defend itself in those circumstances. the country would expect nothing less than for them to provide security for their citizens. of course, alongside that they must abide by international law, and we will do everything we can to make sure that aid flows in and provides alleviation to the suffering that the people in gaza are now seeing. proposals for a new rail station and edging towards a bit look forward to for a decade. a funding gap exists.
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will some of the funds released from the scrapping of hs to be used for this? i the scrapping of hs to be used for this? .., the scrapping of hs to be used for this? .. ., ,, , the scrapping of hs to be used for this? , ., ., this? i can assure my honourable friend that _ this? i can assure my honourable friend that our _ this? i can assure my honourable friend that our decision _ this? i can assure my honourable friend that our decision in - this? i can assure my honourable friend that our decision in h52 i friend that our decision in hs2 means every region of the country will now receive more transport investment than it would have done before, including the southwest. i am pleased that funding is happening to protect the vital rail link between... and his constituents in the south—west will continue to benefit from the £2 bus fare until the end of next year. i know we have previously provided almost £8 million to progress the station he mentions. i will reassure him that the row minister will have heard his representations and continue to update him on the progress they are making. update him on the progress they are makin. . ., update him on the progress they are makin. ., ,, i. update him on the progress they are makinu. ., ~' ,, ~ update him on the progress they are makin. ., «i i. i ., «i update him on the progress they are makin. . ., i making. thank you, mr speaker. david cameron was — making. thank you, mr speaker. david cameron was the _ making. thank you, mr speaker. david cameron was the well-paid _ making. thank you, mr speaker. david cameron was the well-paid public- cameron was the well—paid public face of lex greensill. greensill 's companies are facing criminal investigations in switzerland,
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germany and here in the uk. david cameron message to ministers and officials 62 times over greensill�*s covid long guarantees. the treasury select committee called this a significant lack ofjudgment. —— significant lack of judgment. —— loan significant lack ofjudgment. —— loan guarantees. what this his appointment set by the prime minister's onjudgment? mr appointment set by the prime minister's on judgment? minister's on 'udgment? mr speaker, is the minister's on judgment? mr speaker, is the honourable _ minister's on judgment? mr speaker, is the honourable gentleman - minister's on judgment? mr speaker, is the honourable gentleman knows, | is the honourable gentleman knows, the government commissioned nigel boardman to look at all those issues and strengthen the system following those recommendations. i am very confident, mr speaker, that this nation will be rather presented by the former prime minister abroad. he is a prime minister with unrivalled expense of foreign affairs, will help britain navigate an uncertain world in challenging times, and in contrast, the party opposite would offer to the country a shadow foreign secretary who back his predecessor to be leader, was paid
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to appear on russian television and even voted against trident. does that sound like a man who should represent britain? the that sound like a man who should represent britain?— represent britain? the inflation numbers this — represent britain? the inflation numbers this morning - represent britain? the inflation numbers this morning were - represent britain? the inflation | numbers this morning were very welcome. but the tax burden continues to bite. so will the prime minister agree in principle with me that the concept of higher rate tax was never meant to drag kent police sergeants, nurses, teachers with additional responsibilities and others, and that i priority for his treasury ministers should be to return fairness to the threat —— tax thresholds? mr return fairness to the threat -- tax thresholds?— return fairness to the threat -- tax thresholds? i ,, , ., «i ., thresholds? mr speaker, i agree with the honourable _ thresholds? mr speaker, i agree with the honourable gentleman. _ thresholds? mr speaker, i agree with the honourable gentleman. i- thresholds? mr speaker, i agree with the honourable gentleman. i am - the honourable gentleman. i am pleased that the vast majority of people will continue not to pay the higher rate. i share his ambition to cut taxes for working people. right now inflation is falling and we are sticking to our plan, which is having it this year because that is the most effective tax cut we can
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deliver for the british the most effective tax cut we can deliverfor the british people this year rather than making it worse, as the people opposite would, borrowing money in a way that would be irresponsible and drive up inflation interest rates. i share his ambition to cut taxes for working people. as we stabilise the economy that is something both the chancellor and i are keen to deliver. mr something both the chancellor and i are keen to deliver.— something both the chancellor and i are keen to deliver. mr speaker, my son loves football _ are keen to deliver. mr speaker, my son loves football and _ are keen to deliver. mr speaker, my son loves football and i _ are keen to deliver. mr speaker, my son loves football and i understand l son loves football and i understand the prime minister is a big southampton supporter. so after his latest cabinet reshuffle i want if you can tell me, since 2010, have we seen more southampton manager is being sacked, or have we seen more housing ministers come and go? the answer might help to explain why the government is failing so miserably in new home on —— ownership. weill. in new home on -- ownership. well, mr speaker. — in new home on -- ownership. well, mr speaker. l _ in new home on -- ownership. well, mr speaker. i am — in new home on -- ownership. well, mr speaker, i am pleased, - in new home on -- ownership. well, mr speaker, i am pleased, i'm - mr speaker, lam pleased, i'm pleased that in the last figures we saw we had actually a record number of first—time buyers, mr speaker.
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and we are delivering a million homes over this parliament, while the party office had locked our plans to unlock 100,000 homes at the same time. when it comes to southampton that i am pleased that we are on a seven or eight game unbeaten run. if a we are on a seven or eight game unbeaten run.— unbeaten run. if a two state solution _ unbeaten run. if a two state solution is _ unbeaten run. if a two state solution is to _ unbeaten run. if a two state solution is to have - unbeaten run. if a two state solution is to have a - unbeaten run. if a two state | solution is to have a chance, unbeaten run. if a two state - solution is to have a chance, hamas must be defeated, but also, they would have to first be a more enlightened policy of administration in the occupied west bank, mustn't there? mr in the occupied west bank, mustn't there? i ,,, ., «i in the occupied west bank, mustn't there? i ., «i ., «i , there? mr speaker, i thank my honourable _ there? mr speaker, i thank my honourable friend _ there? mr speaker, i thank my honourable friend for - there? mr speaker, i thank my honourable friend for his - there? mr speaker, i thank my - honourable friend for his question. the uk's long—standing position is clear. we support a two state settlement leading to a safe and secure israel alongside a viable palestinian state in gaza and the west bank. i spoke about this on monday. at his wellies and palestinians have a right to live in peace and security. the longer term
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governance of gaza and security needs to be looked at in the round. it is something i have discussed repeatedly with president abbasi. we agree with the united states that is or should ultimately be under the control of the palestinian authority and we will support president abbasi to get that outcome. ids, and we will support president abbasi to get that outcome.— to get that outcome. a new generation _ to get that outcome. a new generation of _ to get that outcome. a new generation of drugs - to get that outcome. a new generation of drugs is - to get that outcome. a new- generation of drugs is absolutely transforming the lives of patients with cystic fibrosis so people who would have been waiting for a double lung transplant is now living —— are now living happy, healthy lives. nice now says we can't afford them. will the prime minister and his new health secretary get around the table with the drugs company to make sure that children get those life saving drugs in the same way that children currently living with cystic fibrosis get now? i children currently living with cystic fibrosis get now? i think the honourable _ cystic fibrosis get now? i think the honourable lady _ cystic fibrosis get now? i think the honourable lady for _ cystic fibrosis get now? i think the honourable lady for raising - cystic fibrosis get now? i think the honourable lady for raising an - honourable lady for raising an important issue. i would of course ask the health secretary to look into it. i hope she will understand that the national institute of clinical excellence operates
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outside... given the events of the last six weeks, candy prime minister tell the house why the government has not prescribed the guard corps? this government _ prescribed the guard corps? this government continues to take strong action against iran whilst people in the uk and around the world are under threat from the regime. we have sanctioned more than 350 rainier individuals and entities, including the irg sea in its entirety. the national security act of this year implement new measures to protect the british public, including new offences for espionage and foreign interference. and while the government keeps a list of proscribed organisations under review, as members will be aware, it is a long—standing convention that we don't comment on whether a specific organisation is being considered for prescription. he 'ust said he had — considered for prescription. he 'ust said he had unprecedented i said he had unprecedented experience. what would he say was david cameron's finest foreign policy achievement? mr
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david cameron's finest foreign policy achievement? mr speaker, mr seaker. .. policy achievement? mr speaker, mr speaker... there _ policy achievement? mr speaker, mr speaker... there are _ policy achievement? mr speaker, mr speaker... there are many, - policy achievement? mr speaker, mr speaker... there are many, many. policy achievement? mr speaker, mr speaker... there are many, many toj speaker... there are many, many to pick from. but what i would've says that his leadership of this country hosted what was widely considered one of the successful g8 summits of recent times. it one of the successful g8 summits of recent times-— recent times. it was great to welcome — recent times. it was great to welcome the _ recent times. it was great to welcome the prime - recent times. it was great to welcome the prime minister| recent times. it was great to l welcome the prime minister to recent times. it was great to - welcome the prime minister to chance it earlier this year where he launched his anti—social behaviour strategy. he will be placed to know the local police have consistently been stepping up their activities. last week they arrested 24 people from many crimes. and last night they took out a major significant county lines scan. so please, willie joined me in congratulating all of those in our local police? and what he'd like to come back to chelmsford and come out on patrol? weill. he'd like to come back to chelmsford and come out on patrol?— he'd like to come back to chelmsford and come out on patrol? well, it was reat and come out on patrol? well, it was treat to and come out on patrol? well, it was great to visit — and come out on patrol? well, it was great to visit my _ and come out on patrol? well, it was great to visit my honourable - and come out on patrol? well, it was great to visit my honourable friend i great to visit my honourable friend and launch the anti—social behaviour
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plan. can i thank you for raising awareness about the important work that her local policing team is doing? i am that her local policing team is doing? lam pleased that her local policing team is doing? i am pleased they have been empowered by our strategy. anti—social behaviour does make life miserable for many. that is why our plan is so important. it is making a difference across the country, including on her part of the world. i am pleased to see that crime under this government in the year that we most recently had data for is decreased by 56% since 2010. mr decreased by 56% since 2010. i speaker, it is insulting that in the week that marks 20 years since the abolition of section 28, the prime minister is appointed a minister without portfolio, who frequently attacks the lgbtq+ community, with the so—called war on walk, seeks a return to those awful days denying our human rights and attacking our very existence. does the prime minister agree that he is manifestly and repeatedly failed? it is time for him to resign and to call a
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general election. mr speaker, actuall , general election. mr speaker, actually. this _ general election. mr speaker, actually, this government - general election. mr speaker, actually, this government as i general election. mr speaker, | actually, this government as a general election. mr speaker, - actually, this government as a proud record in championing lgbt rights. it was this government that introduced same sex marriage. we will continue ensure that everyone in our society can live with tolerance and compassion and have every opportunity available for them. that is what we have delivered and that is what we will continue delivering. and that is what we will continue deliverin. . , and that is what we will continue deliverin. ., , , ., and that is what we will continue deliverin. . , , ., ., delivering. last year through the... we welcomed _ delivering. last year through the... we welcomed a _ delivering. last year through the... we welcomed a refugee _ delivering. last year through the... we welcomed a refugee family - delivering. last year through the... we welcomed a refugee family to l we welcomed a refugee family to omicron. it is essential that we in this country decides who comes to this country decides who comes to this country. the prime minister has rightly said he will do whatever it takes to stop the small boat and the evil trade around them. but it isn't it apparent that after running today, but it will take as a new law today, but it will take as a new law to override the human rights act and took us run through the caselaw filled up byjudicial activism so we can bring back control of our borders and stop the small boat? mr
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speaker, it is right we go through thejudgment carefully speaker, it is right we go through the judgment carefully and properly. and as i said, the government has already been working in advance on the new treaty with rwanda to address the concerns that have been raised, that were raised previously, and that were raised by the supreme court, who also acknowledge that changes can be delivered to address those issues. as i said, and i will repeat, if it becomes clear our domestic legal framework or international dimensions are still frustrating plans, i am international dimensions are still frustrating plans, lam prepared international dimensions are still frustrating plans, i am prepared to change our laws and revisit those international relationships because we are absolutely committed to stopping the boats.— we are absolutely committed to stopping the boats. prime minister, thank ou stopping the boats. prime minister, thank you for— stopping the boats. prime minister, thank you for meeting _ stopping the boats. prime minister, thank you for meeting with - stopping the boats. prime minister, thank you for meeting with my - thank you for meeting with my constituent. it has been 40 years since her mum was kidnapped by hamas on october the 7th. we all condemn hamas's actions and fight for the return of all hostages. nyom once the language of love to be louder
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than the language of hate. 11,000 palestinians have been killed. over 4000 of them children. international law is important. does the prime minister agree that you can support israel, but also a call out breaches of international law? i israel, but also a call out breaches of international law?— of international law? i have been consistent _ of international law? i have been consistent from _ of international law? i have been consistent from the _ of international law? i have been consistent from the start - of international law? i have been consistent from the start that. consistent from the start that whilst israel has a right to defend itself, it is important that it complies with international law. it is a point i had made at every meeting or phone conversation i have had with prime minister netanyahu. and it was a privilege to meet her constituents and to hear the pain they are going through, which i have enormous sympathy for, which is why we are doing actively everything we can to bring hostages home. we are engaged intensively in diplomatic activity in the region. and we are working to get foreign nationals and british nationals, i am pleased to say well over 200 have now left gaza and we will continue to do
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everything we can to ensure everybody can safely leave he needs to. the prime minister knows i stand unapologetically with my steelmakers in scunthorpe, and as many across this house do, we know the uk must retain a virgin steel—making capability for strategic reasons if nothing else. will he reassure the house that he is personally following developments at british steel and doing all he can to retain what is a vital sovereign capability? i what is a vital sovereign capability?— what is a vital sovereign caabili ? ., «i , ., ., capability? i thank my honourable friend for the _ capability? i thank my honourable friend for the question, _ capability? i thank my honourable friend for the question, and - capability? i thank my honourable friend for the question, and i - capability? i thank my honourable| friend for the question, and i know she is a fantastic champion for her local steelwork and community, and i hope she is reassured by the action that this government has already taken to support steel—making in our country, reaching a landmark agreement with tata steel to save thousands ofjobs there and previously in the pandemic as well, because i agree with her it is important and work will continue to have constructive conversations with all those companies to ensure that we can support them in their
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transition to a cleaner, greener steel—making future. transition to a cleaner, greener steel-making future.— transition to a cleaner, greener steel-making future. thank you, mr seaker. steel-making future. thank you, mr speaker. according _ steel-making future. thank you, mr speaker. according to _ steel-making future. thank you, mr speaker. according to the _ steel-making future. thank you, mr speaker. according to the british i speaker. according to the british independent retail association, on a matter that affects every constituency across this kingdom, 82% of retailers don't even bother reporting physical attacks on their staff when they are attacked. it takes shopkeepers to sell an additional 12 items to make up for an item stolen. will the primers to report on the efforts made by many across this house to ensure that retailers are being protected, that theft against them is called out and they are supported in every day possible, and today will he encourage those members from those shops in their efforts? i encourage those members from those shops in their efforts?— shops in their efforts? i firstly aid shops in their efforts? i firstly paid tribute — shops in their efforts? i firstly paid tribute to _ shops in their efforts? i firstly paid tribute to the _ shops in their efforts? i firstly paid tribute to the work i shops in their efforts? i firstly paid tribute to the work that l shops in their efforts? i firstly l paid tribute to the work that my honourable friend does on this issue is the vice chair of the all—party group on retail crime. he is right
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about the importance of the issue, and working on my mum's shop growing up and working on my mum's shop growing up i understand what he is talking about in the small victims of crime, and what i can tell him that our expectation is that all shoplifting should be followed up where there is evidence such as cctv footage which is something we did earlier this year, and also that any violent or abusive behaviour towards shop workers, particularly those who provide a valuable service to the public, is never acceptable and that is why we provide an aggravating factorfor is why we provide an aggravating factor for assaults, is why we provide an aggravating factorfor assaults, and i commend him for everything he is doing on this issue. will him for everything he is doing on this issue. ~ , ., ., ., , this issue. will my right honourable friend ive this issue. will my right honourable friend give the _ this issue. will my right honourable friend give the house _ this issue. will my right honourable friend give the house and _ this issue. will my right honourable | friend give the house and assurance to the house that he has agreed that his policy and conduct in the
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related affairs will be consistent with the government's 2019 election manifesto and the referendum, and is now fully committed to uk parliamentary sovereignty, self—government and democracy, and in accordance with the government's subsequent legislation? i'm delighted to give my right honourable friend that insurance, because that is a government that is sealing the opportunities of brexit aided by his advice and support, passing the rule bill and ensuring that we can regulate our growth industries in a more competitive way and sign trade deals with the fastest growing regions across the world. it fastest growing regions across the world. , , ., ., , world. it is this government that is delivering the _ world. it is this government that is delivering the benefits _ world. it is this government that is delivering the benefits of - world. it is this government that is delivering the benefits of brexit i world. it is this government that is delivering the benefits of brexit to | delivering the benefits of brexit to every part of our country, and long may that continue. that completes premise to's questions.
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discussion today by the decision by the supreme court government plans to send asylum seekers to rwanda are unlawful. what did you make of prime minister's questions? rishi unlawful. what did you make of prime minister's questions?— minister's questions? rishi sunak addressed the _ minister's questions? rishi sunak addressed the supreme _ minister's questions? rishi sunak addressed the supreme court i minister's questions? rishi sunak i addressed the supreme courtjudgment at the top of prime minister's questions and despite the judgment it seems rishi sunak is not prepared to walk away from this plan. he says at the moment he is working on a treaty with rwanda which the government hopes will address some of the concerns of the supreme court. more from the home secretary, james cleverly. judgment of the court of appeal means that we cannot yet lawfully remove people to rwanda. the important thing to note is that the
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judgment of the court today was made on the basis of facts from 15 months ago. the government, of course, fully respects the supreme court, but, itsjudgment does not fully respects the supreme court, but, its judgment does not weaken our resolve to deter people from making these illegal, dangerous and unnecessaryjourneys. this is a lengthyjudgment which we now need to digest and reflect on. we take our obligations of the court seriously, which is why we have already taken action to address a number of the points raised by the court. it is only through breaking the business model of illegal people traffickers, that we can fully take control of our borders and save lives at sea. this is why the pm backs deal with rwanda, passed legislation to deliver it and said last december that other countries
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would follow our lead. and what we have now seen is other countries are indeed now also exploring third country models for illegal migration, including austria, germany, denmark and italy in their deal with albania. a new and innovative model of processing asylum claims. nothing in the supreme courtjudgment today deems our commitment. —— dame... supreme court says there are issue with rwanda's asylum system which could create a possibility of somebody being returned to a country where they could face persecution. i am struck by the court's remarks about the risk of refoulement. the capacity to do in that risk may be delivering the future but they were not shown to be in at that time and
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the lawfulness of this policy had been considered in these proceedings, making reference to the early proceedings. we have a plan to provide exactly that certainty. we anticipate that this duck —— we anticipated this judgment as possible and the last few months have been working on a plan to provide the certainty that the core demands. we have been working with rwanda to build capacity and amend agreements with rwanda to make clear that those sent there cannot be sent to another country than the uk. our intention is to uphold our, to upgrade our agreement to a treaty as soon as possible. that will make it absolutely clear to our courts and to strasbourg that the risks laid out by the court today have been
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responded to, will be consistent with international law and ensure that parliament is able to scrutinise it. the prime minister has said that if our domestic legal framework to frustrate our plans, he is prepared to change our laws. but we are not going to put forward proposals simply to manufacture an unnecessary row for political gains. we have a plan. —— laughter: theyare we have a plan. —— laughter: they are not listening, mr speaker, so they might want to listen to this. we have a plan to deliver the rwanda deal and we will do whatever it takes to stop the boats. mr speaker, illegal immigration is a huge global challenge and that challenge is
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growing. it was a topic that i regularly raised with countries across europe and around the wider world in my former role as a foreign secretary. mr speaker, monthly illegal migrant numbers are trending upwards right across europe. with an exception. our numbers are falling. illegal migration is dangerous, it undermines the laws of our country, it is unfair on those who come here legally or on the british people who play by the rules, it must and it will stop. this is a wonderful country and i recognise that because i have had the chance to see it as others see it from overseas and inevitably, people aspire to come here, but more people coming here illegally is not fair for those struggling to get gp appointments, those trying to get housing or access to schools or those people
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who are living near asylum hotels. the impacts are filled on some of the poorest in our society and we have a duty to address their concerns. one of the conservative government has taken action to protect our country, the labour party has devoted time and time again not to protect our borders, over 80 times. rwanda is ready and willing to help. the unhcr operates its own refugee scheme in rwanda and rwanda is ready to receive thousands of people, process the claims, give them excellent care and then support them excellent care and then support them to integrate into rwanda. this is an african country full of potential and promise, with a future focus, a mutual beneficial partnership with them and we plan to deliver. the rwanda plan is only ever been one tool in our tool box. we have a plan to drive down numbers
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and our plan is working. before the prime minister launched a ten point plan in december, the number of people entering the uk illegally in small boats had more than quadrupled. while illegal migration in the rest of europe continues to rise, crossings to the uk are now down by one third. we are tackling illegal migration at every stage in thejourney of a illegal migration at every stage in the journey of a would—be illegal migrant. our plan is working. last year, the prime minister agreed the largest ever small boats deal with france. we have expanded ourjoint intelligence cell to deepen intelligence cell to deepen intelligence sharing and dismantle the criminal gangs, cutting—edge surveillance technique r rate technology is in play and we have beat up security technology such as cctv at key border crossings across the channel. we have ensured that more french officials and officers patrol french beaches and they are
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working closely with uk staff and so far, in 2023, nearly 22,000 crossing attempts have been prevented because of the close coordination between british and french officials. that means less money that the british taxpayers have to spend on hotels, less profits for the criminal gangs and fewer people to process, it sends a clear message to the gangs and those who want to cross that we will stop them. as foreign secretary, i worked closely with my right honourable friend the immigration minister to agree a new deal with albania, with better data sharing, closer operational working in financial support and in response to the work that he and i did, the number of albanian small boat arrivals has fallen by 90%, 90% so
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far during 2023 and we have returned over 4600 people injust ten months. we also want to make sure it's harder to get into one of those boats in the first place, including reducing the supply of boats. we are targeting the movement of these goods such as dinghies, engines that are used to facilitate crossings in order to undermine the key component of the smugglers business model and those who do make it through will not be able to stay. we have experienced return agreements with countries such as france, albania, turkey and italy. we have increased the number of illegal working raids by almost 70%. we have cut the asylum legacy backlog by over 59,000 cases, we have freed up over hundreds of thousands of beds with alternative sites and we have announced the closure of the first 50 asylum hotels and we have passed
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the illegal migration act, the most ambitious immigration legislation in decades, which makes clear that the only route to asylum in the uk is via one of the safe and legal roots we have put in place. anyone who comes to the uk illegally will not be able to stay, they will be removed either to their home country if it is safe or to a third country if it is safe or to a third country if it is not. mr speaker, i can assure you that our commitment to ending illegal migration is unwavering. we are a positive outlier in europe. our efforts are working, small bow crossings are down, our decision—making is faster, we are removing those with no right to be here and taking action against those who are working illegally. we have done deals with multiple countries and we will continue to do so. so, mr speaker, in conclusion, arrivals down, decisions faster,
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returns up, we are getting on with thejob and we returns up, we are getting on with the job and we will do whatever it takes to deliver on our commitment to stop the boats and i commend a statement of the house. i welcome the new home secretary to his post, he is the eighth conservative home secretary in eight years and what a mess he has inherited. the code conclusion today are damning. it exposes the complete failure of the prime minister's flagship rwanda policy, exposes a complete failure of the prime minister'sjudgment in making it the central part of his policy and the complete failure of conservatives to get the most basic grip of the boats under silent chaos. no serious plan on the dangerous boat crossings that are undermining our border security and putting lives at risk for all of us want to see end, no serious plan to sort out the chaos in the asylum
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system, people in costly asylum hotels because of the soaring backlog that should be ended. and the readiness to spend over £140 million of taxpayers money on this plan, many we can't get back now that this policy has totally failed. and it adds to the disastrous judgment of the prime minister not just the pointing and backing the previous home secretary who was unfit for the job. i previous home secretary who was unfit for thejob. i don't previous home secretary who was unfit for the job. i don't agree with pretty much anything his predecessor as home secretary has said that she was right on this message to the prime minister, she said if we lose in the supreme court you will have wasted a year and an act of parliament only to arrive back at square one. your magical thinking has meant you have failed to prepare any sort of credible plan b. wasting time, wasting money and letting the country down. that is the conservatives record. the court outlines the catalogue of problems
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of the policy but ministers know all about them. and it was first announced 18 months ago i raised in this house the problems with the israel land deal. they were warned many times about failures and weaknesses in the land asylum system but they just pressed weaknesses in the land asylum system but theyjust pressed on and even if it had been found lawful today they admitted it would only have covered admitted it would only have covered a few hundred people anyway at a time when 100,000 people applied for asylum in the uk last year on the conservatives watch and that would have also cost around twice as much per person is deciding cases in the uk. the government has wasted not just one but five years. five years ago they were just a few hundred people crossing in boats but they let criminal gangs take hold along the channel. they let asylum decisions collapse so the backlog sold and there are now 20% more people in asylum hotels than they were when the prime minister promised to end them. will he now tell us how much in total has the
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government spent on this failed rwanda plan so far? the house has a right to know. he says he wants a new treaty, how much more will that cost? in the courtjudgment says despite his optimism, of the changes that are needed, the rwandan government indicated the contemplated arrangements might not be straightforward to implement in practice and the court says the provision of resources does not mean that the problems we have described can be resolved in the short term. so again, more of the magical thinking and what does it mean for the prime minister's flagship legislation because he boasted about passing it only yesterday but the government has not actually commenced the central clauses of the law because without rwanda and frank even withdrew under the policy doesn't work and will just lead to an endless permanent backlog. can he confirm now he won't in fact be
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implementing the central tenets of that law this year? and can he confirm that this means the prime minister's pledges to introduce the new law to stop the boats and to also end hotel use will also be broken this year? and why will you not put that money into a proper plan to tackle the boats? i don't believe the new home secretary ever believed in the land of plan. he distance himself from it and he may even on occasion of privately caused it —— called it... we need a properly controlled and managed system for asylum and refugees so let's concentrate on the things that can work. we support the work with france along the northern post and we wanted to go further. we sought —— support the work with other countries to tackle gangs. we need a
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massively scaled a plan to go after the criminal gangs and a proper system to clear the backlog to have a proper returns unit in place so we can end hotel use and instead of that cost going up from 6 million to 8 million a day, let's end hotel use and save the taxpayer £2 billion. i would suggest to him that he stops wasting taxpayers money on more filing schemes, very ditches the magical thinking and the culture wars of his predecessors and ditches the gimmicks and finally gets a grip. the gimmicks and finally gets a ri -. the gimmicks and finally gets a i ri . _ ., the gimmicks and finally gets a ri -. ., ., , ., grip. one of the dangers of writing a critiue grip. one of the dangers of writing a critique of— grip. one of the dangers of writing a critique of government _ grip. one of the dangers of writing a critique of government policy i a critique of government policy before you have read the facts laid out in the statement is the statement makes the critique obsolete. she talks about hotel usage which i might remind the house is going down. she talked about
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small boat arrivals in the uk which i will remind the house are coming down. she talks of a close wait —— working relationships with our european partners which we are already doing. i have written response to the various questions, does she have a plan? does labour have a plan? if the benches opposite could curb their enthusiasm and listen to what i was going to say next, i was going to concede labour do have a plan and a great idea is to do what the government is already doing. which is why we are bucking the european trends whenever countries are seeing or 40 or 50 or 60 or 100% increases in the illegal arrivals, we are seeing a third reduction in hours. we have always
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said rwanda and the deterrent effect of the rwanda plan is an important tool in our tool box. we have never claimed it was the only tool in our tool box. we have pursued a range of options and as i set out in my statement, those activities are having an effect. and the mask has slipped. because the glee i detect on the other benches for this temporary setback on the delivery of this plan displays what we are on our side of the house notably true. they don't want migration control to work. they
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don't want to take control of their own borders. they would rather delegated to anybody else. i own borders. they would rather delegated to anybody else. i want to hear the home _ delegated to anybody else. i want to hear the home secretary. _ delegated to anybody else. i want to hear the home secretary. i - delegated to anybody else. i want to hear the home secretary. i don't i hear the home secretary. i don't need _ hear the home secretary. i don't need the — hear the home secretary. i don't need the front bench, i want to hear him need the front bench, ! want to hear him quietly— need the front bench, i want to hear him quietly we need the front bench, i want to hear him ~,uietl ~ ., ., need the front bench, i want to hear him iuietl, ~ ., ., ., need the front bench, i want to hear him iuietl, . ., ., ., , ., him quietly we have had a statement from the new — him quietly we have had a statement from the new home _ him quietly we have had a statement from the new home secretary i him quietly we have had a statement from the new home secretary james| from the new home secretary james cleverly on the supreme court ruling the government plan to send some asylum seekers to rwanda is unlawful and he says the government plans to upgrade its terms with wonder. what do you make of that statement from the new home secretary?—
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the new home secretary? really siinificant the new home secretary? really significant development - the new home secretary? really significant development in i the new home secretary? really significant development in the i the new home secretary? really i significant development in the last error because when a lot of people had the supreme courtjudgment this morning saying the government plan was an awful thought it might be deadin was an awful thought it might be dead in the water. apparently not. first off we had rishi sunak at prime minister's questions saying they would work up the treaty with rwanda to strengthen the agreement they have and you had confirmation from james cleverly suggesting they would change the memorandum of understanding into a treaty which they hope will satisfy the concerns of the supreme court. all of this could really take some time and may yet have to be tested again in the court so i can see this rwanda plan getting off the ground any time soon but it seems the government is still committed to it. and that decision this morning by the supreme court prompted some in the conservative party saying we should leave the
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european convention on human rights. rishi sunak said prime minister's questions echoed by james cleverly f laws did frustrate the government plan they would change domestic laws and revisit international relationships, making clear in the words of james cleverly they would not simply manufacture an unnecessary political row. that's just were not going to leave the european convention on human rights any time soon. the question is how it goes down with some backbenchers. it is what one had to say earlier. i think ultimately delivering the policy— think ultimately delivering the policy of stopping the boats is a confidence issue of the british people — confidence issue of the british people in this government and certainly— people in this government and certainly a confidence issue for my daughters — certainly a confidence issue for my daughters and me and by extension a confidence _ daughters and me and by extension a confidence issue for me and the prime _ confidence issue for me and the prime minister.—
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confidence issue for me and the prime minister. ., .., ., ., ., prime minister. you can hear on that cli- prime minister. you can hear on that cli what prime minister. you can hear on that clip what is — prime minister. you can hear on that clip what is at _ prime minister. you can hear on that clip what is at stake _ prime minister. you can hear on that clip what is at stake for _ prime minister. you can hear on that clip what is at stake for rishi - clip what is at stake for rishi sunak. he will give a press conference in downing street this afternoon and his flagship immigration policy has been dealt a significant blow by the city to make supreme court and he has suggested he will stick by it. let's see from a political perspective how it goes down with conservative mps. figs a political perspective how it goes down with conservative mps. as you have mentioned _ down with conservative mps. as you have mentioned there _ down with conservative mps. as you have mentioned there has _ down with conservative mps. as you have mentioned there has been i have mentioned there has been already strong reaction from within the party stop the labour party also seizing the moment at prime minister's questions. seeing key policy has failed. the minister's questions. seeing key policy has failed.— minister's questions. seeing key policy has failed. the labour party has been critical _ policy has failed. the labour party has been critical of _ policy has failed. the labour party has been critical of what _ policy has failed. the labour party has been critical of what they i policy has failed. the labour party has been critical of what they calll has been critical of what they call the legal approach to immigration for some time and you had yvette cooper outlining the millions of poems spent on the rwanda plan and
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that has not been one asylum seekers sent to rwanda because it has been held up in the courts and saying that labour would focus on getting the asylum system here, the processing of asylum applications sorted to bring down the significant backlogs. huge criticism from yvette cooper about the government approach. rishi sunak left the door open forfuture when approach. rishi sunak left the door open for future when he said he would look at changing domestic laws and have a look at international relationships. it still feels like there is a lot of a to play in terms of whether there rwanda policy gets off the ground, politically i think it is still has some way to play to see how the approach of rishi sunak and james cleverly, how it plays out with backbench mps particularly in the conservative party and we will
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see more this afternoon after we hear from the prime minister. coming u i hear from the prime minister. coming u- shortl hear from the prime minister. coming up shortly will — hear from the prime minister. coming up shortly will be _ hear from the prime minister. coming up shortly will be the _ hear from the prime minister. coming up shortly will be the lunch _ hear from the prime minister. coming up shortly will be the lunch time i up shortly will be the lunch time one o'clock news. there you will have more analysis on developments here, and we can no points you to the bbc live page where you will find all the analysis and reports from our correspondence in westminster and across the country. —— mike correspondence. today at 1pm, a major blow
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to the government's policy on stopping illegal migration. five supreme courtjudges unanimously rule it's unlawful to send asylum seekers to rwanda. labour say the prime minister's central policy has crumbled beneath him. he's wasted all of his time on a gimmick and now he's absolutely nowhere. will he level with the british public and finally admit he's failed to deliver on his promise? when it comes to stopping the boats, rwanda is one part of our plan, which has already delivered a reduction in the number of small boats this year by a third. we'll be analysing where today's supreme court ruling leaves the government. also on the programme this lunchtime... price rises are slowing, with uk inflation down to 4.6%, largely because of the lower cost of energy. patients wheeled through smoke—filled corridors in gaza's biggest hospital. israeli troops have carried out a raid there.

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