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the changes needed to eliminate the risk of refoulement may be delivered in the future, but they have not been shown to be in place now. the home secretary's appeal is therefore dismissed. i told parliament earlier today that i am prepared to change our laws and revisit those international relationships to remove the obstacles in our way. so, let me tell everybody now, i will not allow a foreign court to block these flights. he's wasted all of his time on a gimmick, and now he is absolutely nowhere. will he level with the british public and finally admit he has failed to deliver on his promise? uk plans to limit immigration hit
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a huge road block today — as the supreme court ruled the government's flagship plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda was unlawful. but the prime minister says he will push ahead and find other ways to push the policy through — and says he's prepared to change uk law to do so. also on the programme tonight, the latest from gaza, where israeli forces have said they have found weapons after searching the largest hospital in the strip. we'll speak to one of benjamin netanyahu's senior advisors. we will be live in san francisco — where us presidentjoe biden is meeting his chinese counterpart, leader xi jinping for the first time in a year, for talks over military conflicts, drug—trafficking, artificial intelligence and trade. we will have more on all of that shortly. but first lets let's go to another live and breaking story we are following tonight.
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five of labour's shadow ministers look set to leave sir keir starmer�*s top team in a rebellion over his refusal to back a ceasefire in gaza. they've all voted in favour of an amendment by the scottish national party to the king's speech backing a ceasefire. 56 labour mps voted for the amendment in total. the front bench rebels included the high profile shadow cabinet memberjess phillips. labour had ordered its mps to back the party's own amendment which called for longer "humanitarian pauses" and abstain on the the snp propsal. our political correspondent iain watson is at central lobby at westminster. this looks like quite a rebellion, doesn't it? we have the definitive figures from the number of people who are either resigning from labour front bench, their top team or have
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been sacked, there are eight shadow ministers that are going, and to parliamentary aids, also regarded as being the front bench, one of them is a parliamentary aid to angela rayner, just for a record i would run you through some what we want from labours front bench tonight because they voted for the s&p motion back in cause for an immediate cease—fire in gaza. the eight shadow ministers are, not shaw, i slaughter, jess phillips, zeroing, and your gun, and to others, parliamentary aids who have worked with angela rayner. that is the definitive list but not the full scale of the rebellion was stub those are people on the front bench but a total of 56 labour mps back
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the s&p called for an immediate cease—fire. some of the smaller parties here in westminster back that as well. to put 56 in context, it's about one quarter of labour�*s are the mature party. some of them have made the use clear through social media and news articles, and is cleared there is significant damage to sir keir starmer. he said clearly to his mps that he wanted them to abstain, not to vote on this motion by the s&p, he saw that as playing politics, but there was an extensive effort over the last 2a hours to try to negotiate labour�*s position, their own motion, to try and minimise the skin of the rebellion. it doesn't look like it has succeeded but labour are reiterating it has —— israel has a right to defend itself from
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terrorists threatening, and it was critical of some of the actions by that campaign, it talks about lifting siege conditions, talked about getting food and fuel into gaza, about israel having a duty to protect hospitals, scene of course those pictures are from gaza today and the israel raid on the hospital in gaza city. so labour or try to take on some of the concerns of the mp, some of the grassroots and some of their constituents, but it wasn't enough to prevent a significant rebellion in one of the most significant challenges sir keir starmer has faced since he became labour leader. find starmer has faced since he became labour leader.— labour leader. and those who mps will be aware _ labour leader. and those who mps will be aware of _ labour leader. and those who mps will be aware of what _ labour leader. and those who mps will be aware of what their - will be aware of what their constituents are telling them and how they feel about what is going on in the middle east and we can look at a scene outside where you are right now, there is a pro—palestinian protesters outside of the house of commons, so they'll be aware that they are accountable
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to their constituents, and that's perhaps why the ability to how they have. ., �* , ~ perhaps why the ability to how they have. . �*, ~ h, have. that's right, i think some --eole have. that's right, i think some peeple felt _ have. that's right, i think some people felt this _ have. that's right, i think some people felt this was _ have. that's right, i think some people felt this was a _ have. that's right, i think some people felt this was a major - have. that's right, i think some l people felt this was a major issue for many years, felt that the palestinians had a raw deal, that a peace process has been far off track, especially with the netanyahu government in israel. others are certainly feeling the pressure distinctly and robustly from their constituents in recent weeks, and felt that if there was an opportunity to vote for a cease—fire, they had to do it even if they are on the front bench and risking their own jobs to stop so here at westminster, we are sitting outside at this very vocal process for a cease—fire, many smaller protests and demonstrations are lobbying, call it what you will, of z mp offices and some of them is a great deal of pressure with people writing to them and membership at grassroots others. in the particular
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view of one of the departed front ventures, she felt the party leadership was not impartial enough on this issue, they felt they were too supportive of israel's tactics of these in the early days of the conflict. there's pressure the other way from that labour leadership as well but keir starmer had allowed people to effectively freelance a bit over the previous weeks, so long as they did not come onto the media and at psyches leadership directly, but when it came to a parliamentary vote, he felt he had to exercise some discipline, he says he regrets the loss of the front ventures tonight but if they have a parsing government they need to impose a collective accountability, that's why ten of the sherman service had to go. why ten of the sherman service had to no. , , why ten of the sherman service had to ion , ,,
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why ten of the sherman service had toio. , ,, ,,., why ten of the sherman service had to i�* , ,, ,,., to go. just as sir keir starmer was t in to to go. just as sir keir starmer was trying to get _ to go. just as sir keir starmer was trying to get his — to go. just as sir keir starmer was trying to get his party _ to go. just as sir keir starmer was trying to get his party together- to go. just as sir keir starmer was trying to get his party together to | trying to get his party together to face an election, in what could be a general election year next year, this is quite a setback to those plans. where does that leave his labour party right now? this plans. where does that leave his labour party right now?- labour party right now? this is a articular labour party right now? this is a particular issue _ labour party right now? this is a particular issue where _ labour party right now? this is a particular issue where clear- particular issue where clear divisions within the party are exacerbated by events out of their control in the middle east. obviously people have come back into the labour party since the corbin era, someone supported israel, not all, others from different political traditions with the labour party, so wasn't all that together in the face of this international conflict was going to be a big challenge but the view is this is the biggest challenge, and another issue is trying to show more unity, certainly from his point of view, he has been fortunate because of the government was �*s issues over the rwanda
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policy, and the second of suella braverman, it is overshadowed some of his internal difficulties, but these difficulties will not be resolved tonight and there will still be difficulties, i believe as grassroots, it will be difficult to bridge this gap but from sir keir starmer�*s point of view, the ice with the international coming sakala for longer humanitarian pauses rather than a cease—fire, but they arguing officials calling for a cease—fire to stop so, i think this is challenging for him but he does not leave it is a sign of wider disunity, but what his opponents with hope is that people will speak out against other policies he is pursuing and that we might see more dissent rather than the added discipline we have seen in the last year or so. discipline we have seen in the last year or 50-— year or so. good to have you here there to explain _ year or so. good to have you here
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there to explain all _ year or so. good to have you here there to explain all of _ year or so. good to have you here there to explain all of that for - year or so. good to have you here there to explain all of that for us. there to explain all of that for us tonight, iain watson of our political correspondent in central lobby at westminster. we can see on screen, labour scene ten mps have been sacked from the neighbour front bench. that is the opposition front bench. that is the opposition front bench after voting for the s&p i made ben's calling for a cease—fire in gaza. an important difference in the language, whether this is a call for a cease—fire or a pause in the fighting, and that is the significant difference here. so, the labour party seen ten mps have been sacked for the voting for the s&p commitment for cease—fire, the labour party had had his own motion causing for a pause, to allow aiding people to leave, rather than a cease—fire that could potentially give hamas time to really. it's been
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a busy day in westminster. the prime minister says he will press ahead with plans to send asylum seekers to rwanda — after the highest court in the uk ruled that the government's policy was unlawful. the supreme court found there was a real risk that asylum seekers who were sent to rwanda could be wrongly assessed, and returned to their country of origin, where they could face persecution. but rishi sunak said new emergency legislation will enable parliament to "confirm rwanda is safe" and that he remained committed to stopping thousands of migrants crossing the channel in small boats every year. labour called the proposals a ridiculous and pathetic spectacle. let's speak to natasha tsangarides associate director of advocacy at freedom from torture. natasha thank you for being on the programme, and you welcomed this ruling today?— ruling today? absolutely today is a real victory for— ruling today? absolutely today is a real victory for reason _ ruling today? absolutely today is a
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real victory for reason and - real victory for reason and compassion, as you said, what this supreme court has found is what many of us already knew, that this cash for humans scheme is both immoral and deeply unlawful, the stakes could not be higher in a case like this. we were with survivors of torture who have been through the most unimaginative things and every day in our therapy rooms we are hearing of the absolute horror that the scheme has inflicted. today's judgment really sent a clear message to the government that rwanda is simply not a safe country.- simply not a safe country. wasn't the lan, simply not a safe country. wasn't the plan. the _ simply not a safe country. wasn't the plan, the proposal, _ simply not a safe country. wasn't the plan, the proposal, the - simply not a safe country. wasn't the plan, the proposal, the ideal simply not a safe country. wasn't. the plan, the proposal, the idea of this policy was that it was more of a deterrent rather than something enforced in reality? the idea that it would make it less attractive to come to this country? it would serve as a deterrent to prevent people coming here in the first place,
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hopefully not needing to be used in practice. that determines idea is an important one, isn't it? irate practice. that determines idea is an important one, isn't it?— important one, isn't it? we are in agreement— important one, isn't it? we are in agreement that _ important one, isn't it? we are in agreement that these _ important one, isn't it? we are in agreement that these boats - important one, isn't it? we are in agreement that these boats need j important one, isn't it? we are in i agreement that these boats need to be stopped but, actually, there is no evidence that the rwanda scheme would indeed stop the boats or act as a deterrent. that has been very clearly laid out even by the governments own advisers. what we know is the people up and down the country are seen through the bluster, care and compassionate people, now want the government to get a grip and scrap the rwanda scheme. it is not representative of the country that we are and is threatening to rip up every rule book, every rule in the rule book, is frankly, terrifying and astounded.— is frankly, terrifying and astounded. ., , astounded. the government says it will do the exact _ astounded. the government says it will do the exact opposite - astounded. the government says it will do the exact opposite to - astounded. the government says it will do the exact opposite to what i will do the exact opposite to what
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you said some people are calling for, introducing emergency legislation to mark rwanda as a safe country and getting around this latest ruling, briefly for us, if the government will press ahead with that legislation, it changes nothing right now, does it was you mark? it doesn't change anything because the court gave us this unanimous and clear decision laying out all the reasons as to why white rwanda is not a safe site, extradition hold killings and torture, so it's absolutely appalling that rishi sunak is once to plan ahead. i want to add that this government has pushed through to legislations recently, both of which they promised the public would deliver. they are consistently failing to deliver it because they are not being honest. this government, when it came to power, there were 7000 people in the backlogs, as ofjuly
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that figure rose to 130,000. they have wholly neglected the asylum system, we want and need this government to back down and do what the majority of people in this country want. to scrap the scheme, to develop a humane protection focused asylum system, that processes claims and dealings with people with dignity.— processes claims and dealings with people with dignity. thank you, good to have us at — people with dignity. thank you, good to have us at natasha _ people with dignity. thank you, good to have us at natasha tsangarides, l to have us at natasha tsangarides, discussing the latest plans from the uk government as far as asylum—seekers are concerned. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. a city councillor has said a tower block in bristol that was evacuated over safety concerns, was not built according to plans. more than 400 residents were forced to leave their homes on tuesday, with the council declaring a major incident. building surveys showed barton house would not be safe in the event of a fire.
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the french train maker alstom has put more than 1,300 jobs at risk at the uk's largest rail assembly factory in derby. the site has no confirmed workload beyond the first quarter of 2024 due to a gap in orders. a spokesperson for alstom says it is working to secure a sustainable future for the factory. the royal mint has unveiled a new range of coins to celebrate 60 years of the james bond films. each design will feature a scene from a different decade from ian fleming's series. the first coin is from the sean connery era — and depicts the gyroplane from the 1967 film �*you only live twice'. more on the stories on the bbc website. the idf says its troops have found weapons, combat gear and technological equipment in the al—shifa hospital complex in gaza after a long search of the complex today.
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israel says, the al shifa hospital compound, conceals an underground command centre used by hamas — a claim doctors there deny. according to reporters that were among those inside the hospital today, the soldiers have left, but the idf says that their operation is continuing. tanks entered the al shifa hospital complex in the middle of the night, and soldiers searched the site, interrogating patients and medical staff. there are reports from inside the hospital in the last few hours that the soldiers have now left. though we of course have not been able to independently verify that. straight to the scene at the un security council in new york, another vote tonight, this is the latest vote trying to reach some sort of consensus at the un security council at a humanitarian pause to
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allow aiding and people to leave gaza. you will note that in recent weeks since this conflict has begun, there being five attempts that have failed to reach an agreement, a consensus, on what the un should decrease what would happen in the conflict between israel and gaza. that boat is due within the hour, we will take you back to life if there any further details. we can speak now tojonathan panikoff, director of the scohcroft middle east security initiative at the atlantic council. good to have you on the programme with us tonight, and i want to talk a bit about talks with the military operations, we've spoken about the humanitarian crisis, but looking at the longer term indications of what is going on there. given your experience, what is your assessment of what is israel's and game in all of what is israel's and game in all of this. we know the international contamination is going as a
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humanitarian tool grows, i wonder how israel will respond with an eye on in and game and exit for this war. ., ~' on in and game and exit for this war. ., ~ , ., on in and game and exit for this war. ., ~ i. ., ., war. thank you for having me, i think that _ war. thank you for having me, i think that is — war. thank you for having me, i think that is a _ war. thank you for having me, i think that is a big _ war. thank you for having me, i think that is a big question - war. thank you for having me, i think that is a big question that| think that is a big question that everybody still has some israel's and game right now is dedicated to ensuring that hamas is decimated as a military group, is a medicine organisation, that it's terrorist capabilities and terrorist organisation is no longer workable, his command and control centres included under al shifa are not operable and confiscated. but it leaves a big question regarding what happens in gaza next politically in terms of long—term security and the humanitarian situation to stop that is something i think israel, the international community, including the us and uk and others are still working through. lots of questions more than answers as to how you get past the miniature portion of what happens right now. is
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past the miniature portion of what happens right now.— past the miniature portion of what happens right now. is there a chance of stability here? _ happens right now. is there a chance of stability here? where _ happens right now. is there a chance of stability here? where was - happens right now. is there a chance of stability here? where was so - happens right now. is there a chance of stability here? where was so busy come from? we know there's been a void in the uk parliament, and in the next hour this boat at the un security council, we note it is been difficult for the international community to come together and agree a form of words and recommendation for what happens in this conflict. what hope is there of any short—term stability? in what hope is there of any short-term stabili ? , ., , ., t. stability? in the short term you can have some. — stability? in the short term you can have some, the _ stability? in the short term you can have some, the un _ stability? in the short term you can have some, the un resolution - stability? in the short term you can i have some, the un resolution calling for the pauses that malta has put forth, that has a decent chance of passing, something the us is also called for. that would allow humanitarian relief organisations and certainly the you into getting water, food, energy supplies to the hundreds of thousands of palestinians who do needed throughout gaza. i think it would do so without ending, for instance, in the way a cease—fire would which is been called for a stop israel's
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views of its obligations to ensure its security by ending the military force and and in its operation. so, i think it's a balance but it can happen. i think it would take a bit more time. the other question is the hostages, because there's a question of stability and how the hostages play in. so, short—term pauses might also give a window for a hostage negotiation to continue, and possibly for hostages to be released. m possibly for hostages to be released-— possibly for hostages to be released. �* ,, t, t, t, released. al shifa -- jonathan thanks for _ released. al shifa -- jonathan thanks for being _ released. al shifa -- jonathan thanks for being on _ released. al shifa -- jonathan thanks for being on the - released. al shifa -- jonathan - thanks for being on the programme. there is a key meeting under way in between the leaders of the world's two major superpowers in san francisco. for the first time in a year, us presidentjoe biden and chinese leader xijinping are in the same room. the talks as part of the apec summit. topics on the table include military conflicts, drug—trafficking and artificial intelligence. but both sides have set expectations low —
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so don't expect america and china's many differences and disagreements to be settled this evening. our correspondent gary o'donoghuejoins us now from the summit in san francisco. we said they have been talking down expectations already, and there's lots for them to talk about at this meeting, but looking at the agenda, they only have four hours to do it. not a lots of time. hat they only have four hours to do it. not a lots of time.— not a lots of time. not a lot of time, not a lots of time. not a lot of time. but _ not a lots of time. not a lot of time, but bearing _ not a lots of time. not a lot of time, but bearing in mind - not a lots of time. not a lot of time, but bearing in mind lots| time, but bearing in mind lots of the work is done i had of the summits in any case, they don't happen unless there is something achievable for the leaders to deliver on. so, iwould achievable for the leaders to deliver on. so, i would expect something, it might not be much, talk of some kind of deal on perhaps discussing artificial intelligence and what they can be used for, particularly in the military realm. and some talk of perhaps a deal where china may restrict some of the
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pre—chemicals that are exported to places like mexico which get turned into fenta nyl places like mexico which get turned into fentanyl which comes across the border into the united states, which is a huge killer of young people in this country. on the other hand, the chinese are looking some concessions on the economy which is struggling on the economy which is struggling on there and at the moment, and to put the icing on the cane, the terrace —— tariffs that have been imposed which are hurting them. so, lots of things there, key strategic interests where they will continue to differ with have to be discussed, particularly in the south china and east china sea with tensions over taiwan any parenteral and huge potential flashpoint where the countries have not been talking its all for the last 12 months. interesting, i saw this as not meeting to improve relations but a meeting to improve relations but a meeting to improve relations but a meeting to stop the current relationship getting any worse, and
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is hard to see how it could get any worse. any progress they make will be seen as significant progress, wanted? i be seen as significant progress, wanted? ., ., �* , wanted? i think that's right, stimulations _ wanted? i think that's right, stimulations and _ wanted? i think that's right, stimulations and is - wanted? i think that's right, stimulations and is a - wanted? i think that's right, stimulations and is a word l wanted? i think that's right, - stimulations and is a word people from the administration have been using a lot in recent days, and that is particularly without military to military communication which was appended after the then house speaker nancy peluso visited taiwan last year, if there is none of that there's a huge area could be misunderstanding, mishaps, which could escalate and suddenly you find yourself in a conflict. so that is one of the key aims, certainly of the biden administration, i think china probably shares that aim as well. but beyond that, china we want america to refer reaffirm its view that there is one china, that taiwan should not be independent, and i think that's what you will get from the americans this time around. done that, there may be some discussion of things like climate change, where
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there can be strategic, joint strategic interest which elides in some way. and to huge where the policy issues, the war in the middle east, and ukraine, those things are on the table as well. so, is a huge unlimited agenda, and i think the nature of what we expect because you, you can draw the nature of what we expect from the fact that there won't be a joint statement after this, then, the biden administration will do its own press conference and the chinese will respond in their way. they don't expect to publish a joint declaration of agreements and a way forward, this is putting a floor under their relationship as one chinese commentator said to me. good to have you there, if there are more developments will be back with you, gary donahue live in san francisco.
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hello. for some of us, today provided a bit of a break from all the rain we've seen of late. we saw some dry weather and some sunshine, but not everywhere, there was some rain around. this is how it looked for a weather watcher in east ayrshire. there is more rain to come. our earlier satellite picture shows this shield of cloud now pushing its way in from the south—west. that's going to make for a very wet day, particularly in the south, during tomorrow. through this evening and tonight that cloud and rain will continue to journey in across the south—west of england, the channel islands, parts of wales. the winds will pick up, particularly around some of the coasts. further north, a few showers straight across this east coast. we'll see a few fog patches developing, particularly in the north of scotland where we could see a touch of frost, but it will be milder by the end of the night down towards the south as this area of low pressure swings its way through. the center of the low is likely to stayjust to the south of the uk, but certainly coming close enough to bring some very heavy rain, a really soggy start to the day. also some quite strong winds. we could see wind gusts of 50mph, or a touch more, around the coasts
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of south—west england, the channel islands. maybe turning quite windy for other southern coastal counties, as well. this rain is going to be quite persistent through the day, only slowly easing off. we will also see this frontal system pushing in from the west. that will bring rain into northern ireland as we go through the afternoon. elsewhere, a few showers, particularly for north—east england, eastern scotland. some spells of sunshine to be had, as well. temperatures really will struggle. a decidedly chilly feel, many of us stuck between six and nine degrees. during thursday night and into friday we'll see these various weather systems clearing away. a brief ridge of high pressure, so this is a window of drier weather. there could be some fog patches around first thing, particularly across northern ireland, northern england and scotland. one or two showers can't be ruled out, but most places should be dry, although later in the day we'll see cloud and rain returning to the far south—west of england, where it will also be starting to turn just a little bit milder. that sets us up for the weekends. low pressure will be dominating the scene over the weekend. this band of rain pushing
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hello, i'm ben thompson. you're watching the context on bbc news. the israeli army carries out a raid in part of gaza's largest hospital, al—shifa. we'll hear from an adviser to the prime minister. they have more on that in a moment, but let's get more on the breaking news from westminster that eight of the shadow ministers will leave the front bench. in a the shadow ministers will leave the front ltench-— front bench. in a rebellion over his refusal to back _ front bench. in a rebellion over his refusal to back a _ front bench. in a rebellion over his refusal to back a ceasefire - front bench. in a rebellion over his refusal to back a ceasefire in - front bench. in a rebellion over his| refusal to back a ceasefire in gaza. two parliamentary aides will also leave. they all voted in favour of an amendment by the scottish national party to the kings speech backing a ceasefire. 56 labour mps voted for the amendment in total and the front bench rebels
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