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you are watching the news they live from singapore. the headlines. us presidentjoe biden and chinese president xi jinping meet in singapore, theirfirst talks in jinping meet in singapore, their first talks in over one year. i their first talks in over one ear. . ., ., ., ., , year. i am helena home for any at the summit _ year. i am helena home for any at the summit in _ year. i am helena home for any at the summit in san _ year. i am helena home for any at the summit in san franciscol at the summit in san francisco and i will be bringing you all the latest on those talks aimed at using tensions between the us and china. in at using tensions between the us and china.— at using tensions between the us and china. in other news the un security _ us and china. in other news the un security council _ us and china. in other news the un security council passes - us and china. in other news the un security council passes a - un security council passes a resolution calling for an urgent and extended humanitarian pause in the fighting in gaza.
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hello and welcome to the programme we begin in san francisco where president biden is expected to speak to the media in the next few minutes. he has been meeting with his chinese counterpart, xijinping chinese counterpart, xi jinping on chinese counterpart, xijinping on the sidelines of the asia—pacific economic cooperation meeting. after several admirals of talks the two leaders were seen taking a walk around the garden of the mansion where the meeting took place. mr biden told reporters that it went well and gave them a thumbs up sign. this isjust their second in person meeting since president biden assumed office in 2021. we can cross live to san francisco and our correspondent helena. great to talk to you. what are you hearing from this meeting? after that meeting we saw a
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post on x saying that the conversations between these two leaders were candid and also constructive, since then we have been learning more details about that meeting from news agencies. 0ne senior us official quoted by reuters news agency saying, president biden had asked china to weigh in with a round to avoid steps that could be seen as provocative in the middle east and we have also heard that same official saying that when it came to xi jinping, there were no such plans. but he had no such plans of chinese military action on taiwan in the coming years. president biden had called on china to respect the electoral process in 2024 in those key elections. chinese state media also reporting that there was an agreement to restore military to military cooperation, but we are waiting for that press
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conference from president biden. separately later we will also hear president xijinping on how the meeting went. what on how the meeting went. what is the atmosphere _ on how the meeting went. what is the atmosphere in _ on how the meeting went. what is the atmosphere in san - is the atmosphere in san francisco we were hearing that there were some protests when xijinping arrived. how were the americans receiving him? you probably cannot hear the protests here, but they are still going on. there were several hundred demonstrators taking to the streets this morning here in san francisco. at times, it was difficult to actually get past them even if you were pressed, but they were anti—apec demonstrators and pro—palestinian demonstrators and also anti—chinese government protesters as well. some people coming with a message for xijinping some people coming with a message for xi jinping when some people coming with a message for xijinping when it comes to allegations of human rights abuses for example. with regards to the muslim population in china and hong kong and allegations of a crackdown on civil society
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there. whether he will receive these messages is another matter. the actual summit and sideline discussion taking place 30 minutes from where i am now. the atmosphere in san francisco is a city that has cleaned up considerably and there have been questions about that. about the efforts to clean the streets to move the significant and house population indoors for the duration of this summit. some questions about why that was not done for the residents of san francisco aside from 4 degrees —— unhoused. also the image that san francisco was putting its best foot forward in the hope of receiving some $57 million in business revenue over this. $57 million in business revenue overthis. . $57 million in business revenue over this- -_ over this. . thank you we will seak over this. . thank you we will speak to _ over this. . thank you we will speak to you _ over this. . thank you we will speak to you after _ over this. . thank you we will speak to you after we - over this. . thank you we will. speak to you after we hear from the us presidentjoe biden and that press conference. for more analysis let's cross live to san francisco again, and join
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jessica who is a professor for china and asia pacific studies at cornell university and also senior fellow on chinese politics at the asia society. great to talk to you. we are getting some lines about china saying that taiwan was the biggest most dangerous issue in us china ties right now coming from the meeting. what do you expect that the two to say about taiwan? 1 expect that the two to say about taiwan?— expect that the two to say about taiwan? , . ., about taiwan? i expect the two sides to reiterate _ about taiwan? i expect the two sides to reiterate their - about taiwan? i expect the two sides to reiterate their points l sides to reiterate their points which is that the upcoming election in taiwan, the chinese side is quite concerned about the future direction of us taiwan ties. for the united states part i expect president biden to reiterate the united states does not support the taiwan independence and opposes unilateral changes to the status quo. those two being
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rhetorical positions i think i have not changed but i think both sides are looking quite warily at potential developments next year. sums anal sts developments next year. sums analysts have _ developments next year. sums analysts have suggested - developments next year. sums analysts have suggested that l developments next year. sums analysts have suggested that a i analysts have suggested that a war with taiwan is unavoidable, do you agree? 1 war with taiwan is unavoidable, do you agree?— do you agree? i do not. in fact the biden _ do you agree? i do not. in fact the biden administration - do you agree? i do not. in fact the biden administration has l the biden administration has been clear that conflict in the taiwan street is neither imminent nor inevitable. china and taiwan or preparing for the event of some contingency but these efforts to prepare should not be mistaken for efforts to force the issue. the chinese government has a lot of challenges, domestically with the economy slowing and i do not think is looking for an opportunity to take an incredible risk that would jeopardise everything that the chinese government has worked for. so i see it is farfrom unavoidable and in fact i think one of the reasons the two
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sides are so serious about stabilising the relationship is precisely to head off the possibility of a crisis or conflict that neither side once. ., ., , conflict that neither side once. ., ., once. you have proof was described _ once. you have proof was described us _ once. you have proof was described us china - once. you have proof was described us china policy| once. you have proof was i described us china policy as too hawkish. why do you say that and you think that will change in china at all? i that and you think that will change in china at all? i think the emphasis _ change in china at all? i think the emphasis on _ change in china at all? i think the emphasis on results - change in china at all? i think the emphasis on results at i change in china at all? i think| the emphasis on results at the expense of reassurance is doing no one any favours. certainly not winning hearts and minds and creating a backlash that is making it harderfor the making it harder for the chinese making it harderfor the chinese government to woo foreign investors that it would like to see as making the driving across the asia—pacific and around the world. so maybe we will see in the days ahead something of an recalibration or tampering of that face that xijinping has presented to the world. we have seen that in
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chinese media coverage in the united states emphasising the strong people ties and friendship between the two peoples. so with the summit, hopefully going well in the days to come hopefully we will see more progress. hopefully, we will see some dialling back of that tough rhetoric. briefly. because we are running out of time, you are going to a dinner with xijinping out of time, you are going to a dinner with xi jinping after this interview. what do you expect to hear from this interview. what do you expect to hearfrom him if he speaks, and what will you be looking out for? i speaks, and what will you be looking out for?— speaks, and what will you be looking out for? i expect that we will see — looking out for? i expect that we will see a _ looking out for? i expect that we will see a continuation - looking out for? i expect that we will see a continuation of| we will see a continuation of the line that china is open for business and they will continue to be welcoming and take additional steps to improve the investment environment, whether or not foreign businesses will take him at his word will be watching to see whether some of the steps translate into reality on the ground in inside
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china. as we know, there have been a number of different cases where foreign firms have faced harassment and investigation and having created a chilly environment. and i expect we will hear it either tonight or in days to come, he continued efforts to suggest that things are under control and in fact china's door is open.— control and in fact china's door is open. professor at cornell university - let's get more now from the us perspective. my colleague has been speaking to the us state department spokesman. we saw the us president _ department spokesman. we saw the us president saying - department spokesman. we saw the us president saying this - the us president saying this bilateral meeting is about reestablishing contact between the two countries especially military to military. beyond that, what would be considered a success?— a success? the important thing to remember— a success? the important thing to remember is _ a success? the important thing to remember is that _ a success? the important thing to remember is that we - a success? the important thing to remember is that we have i to remember is that we have long — to remember is that we have long talked about taking steps
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to construct —— constructively symbolise _ to construct —— constructively symbolise the relationship and we believe that is something that we believe that is something ihal is— we believe that is something that is notjust in the interest of our two countries but something that the international community expects. when we talk about some — expects. when we talk about some of— expects. when we talk about some of these key issues, like addressing that climate cooperation, counter narcotics, these _ cooperation, counter narcotics, these are — cooperation, counter narcotics, these are things that would benefit _ these are things that would benefit the people and both of our countries, but also these are areas_ our countries, but also these are areas where the united states_ are areas where the united states and the republic of china _ states and the republic of china are important players and if we _ china are important players and if we went— china are important players and if we went to see progress in those — if we went to see progress in those spaces, it requires both of our— those spaces, it requires both of our countries to work collaboratively.- of our countries to work collaborativel . ~ . ., , collaboratively. when it comes to military _ collaboratively. when it comes to military to _ collaboratively. when it comes to military to military - to military to military communication, what is the concern there. that this relationship could really veer into conflict? {iii relationship could really veer into conflict?— relationship could really veer into conflict? of course when when we _ into conflict? of course when when we have _ into conflict? of course when when we have long _ into conflict? of course when when we have long talks - into conflict? of course when i when we have long talks about when _ when we have long talks about when this _ when we have long talks about when this is an area that we think— when this is an area that we think can _ when this is an area that we think can minimise conflict, create — think can minimise conflict, create stability, create avenues for communications and address— avenues for communications and address any potential misunderstanding. if address any potential misunderstanding. address any potential misunderstandina. misunderstanding. if you look at within that _ misunderstanding. if you look at within that white _ misunderstanding. if you look at within that white house . at within that white house national security adviser sullivan set in the lead up to
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this he said, biden is coming into this in a position of economic strength. meanwhile the chinese economy has slowed significantly. is there a sense of us at that melee fertile ground for more agreement between the countries. i ground for more agreement between the countries. i cannot auree between the countries. i cannot agree more _ between the countries. i cannot agree more with _ between the countries. i cannot agree more with what _ between the countries. i cannot agree more with what the - agree more with what the national security adviser sullivan said, whether we believe _ sullivan said, whether we believe that it is president biden— believe that it is president biden coming into the summit in a position— biden coming into the summit in a position of strength. it has began — a position of strength. it has began with the beginning of this initiation without bilateral meeting between national security adviser dick sultivan— national security adviser dick sullivan and sec. blinken and his counterparts and continued on with— his counterparts and continued on with the engagement by secretary blinken in beijing and we _ secretary blinken in beijing and we have contingency high—level travel from both sides— high—level travel from both sides across the pacific talking _ sides across the pacific talking about is really important issues. 0ne conflict that is expected to be discussed as the israel gaza were at the moment. we have seen the white house say that they know china does have ties to iran. what concretely does the us want to see china do. ~ ., , does the us want to see china do. . ., , . ., does the us want to see china
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do. ~ ., , . ., ., does the us want to see china do. ., , do. we have been clear to any country as _ do. we have been clear to any country as it — do. we have been clear to any country as it relates _ do. we have been clear to any country as it relates to - do. we have been clear to any country as it relates to the - country as it relates to the ongoing _ country as it relates to the ongoing conflict in the middle east — ongoing conflict in the middle east that those who have a role to play— east that those who have a role to play and those who have purported influence in the relationships in the malign actors _ relationships in the malign actors in _ relationships in the malign actors in the region that they send — actors in the region that they send a — actors in the region that they send a clear message that the united — send a clear message that the united states are not interested in seeing the conflict spread. no other malign— conflict spread. no other malign actors or terrorist groups— malign actors or terrorist groups should use as opportunity to further prey on israel— opportunity to further prey on israel so _ opportunity to further prey on israel so that is the message you saw— israel so that is the message you saw sec. blinken carry through— you saw sec. blinken carry through on his travels throughout the region and something that will be echoed again— something that will be echoed again to — something that will be echoed again to countries. to something that will be echoed again to countries.— again to countries. to the oint again to countries. to the point is — again to countries. to the point is to _ again to countries. to the point is to get _ again to countries. to the point is to get china - again to countries. to the point is to get china to i again to countries. to the i point is to get china to relay that message to ironic? is a that message to ironic? is a message — that message to ironic? is a message that _ that message to ironic? is a message that we _ that message to ironic? is a message that we are - that message to ironic? is a message that we are sharing with— message that we are sharing with all— message that we are sharing with all countries that we not 'ust with all countries that we not just in— with all countries that we not just in seeing the conflict spread _ just in seeing the conflict spread and every role that you have _ spread and every role that you have to — spread and every role that you have to play in doing that needs— have to play in doing that needs to be done. we know taiwan remains _ needs to be done. we know taiwan remains a _ needs to be done. we know taiwan remains a source i needs to be done. we know taiwan remains a source of| taiwan remains a source of tension and we saw a senior chinese official quoted saying that taiwan was at one—on—one meeting during the summer. is
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that something that would be considered orbit that the rail of any sense of progress in a meeting between the two presidents. i meeting between the two presidents.— meeting between the two presidents. i will not speak about the _ presidents. i will not speak about the president's - presidents. i will not speak - about the president's schedule and will— about the president's schedule and will of course let our white _ and will of course let our white house colleagues speak to that _ white house colleagues speak to that the — white house colleagues speak to that. the important thing to remember and something that we expect— remember and something that we expect and know that president biden— expect and know that president biden will be consistent on as well_ biden will be consistent on as well is — biden will be consistent on as well is that the united states are not— well is that the united states are not interested in changing the status quo. we continue to affirm — the status quo. we continue to affirm the _ the status quo. we continue to affirm the one china policy and we are — affirm the one china policy and we are not— affirm the one china policy and we are not for taiwan independence and that will continue to be in place. we are not interested in changing the status — not interested in changing the status quo. not interested in changing the status quo-— not interested in changing the status uuo. ., . ., , status quo. there are elections cominu status quo. there are elections coming up _ status quo. there are elections coming up in — status quo. there are elections coming up in taiwan _ status quo. there are elections coming up in taiwan and - status quo. there are elections coming up in taiwan and they l coming up in taiwan and they will be watched closely. we have heard concerns from the us that we are not seeing any chinese interference in the elections but will not be an elections but will not be an election bully message related? democracy i have no doubt will come _ what will the us reaction be to
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—— what will the us reaction be? -- what will the us reaction be? ., ., ,, -- what will the us reaction be? ., ., ~' ., -- what will the us reaction be? ., , be? to take a step back and in the election — be? to take a step back and in the election around _ be? to take a step back and in the election around the - be? to take a step back and in the election around the world | the election around the world we have — the election around the world we have been clear eyed about the fact — we have been clear eyed about the fact that we want to see if free _ the fact that we want to see if free and — the fact that we want to see if free and fair election that reflects the will of the people participating in that election. that's— participating in that election. that's what we went to see whether _ that's what we went to see whether it be in any country in the world _ whether it be in any country in the world whether we want to see it — the world whether we want to see it free of malign influence, see if free of any disinformation efforts. fine disinformation efforts. one more big — disinformation efforts. one more big picture _ disinformation efforts. qua: more big picture question, coming into the summit we have seen president biden saying he sees china as a threat to the rules —based national order system that they want to see prevail and we have also seen president biden and sec. blinken strengthening ties in the region with partners in the region. can there really be a marker to improvement in the relationship?— relationship? when we talk about our— relationship? when we talk about our approach - relationship? when we talk about our approach the - relationship? when we talk - about our approach the people's republic— about our approach the people's republic of china one thing you have _ republic of china one thing you have heard president biden and sec. blinken and others talk about— sec. blinken and others talk about is— sec. blinken and others talk about is the idea of investing and lying _ about is the idea of investing and lying and competing in that
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middle — and lying and competing in that middle board and lining has been — middle board and lining has been so _ middle board and lining has been so key. —— a lining. that is something sec. blinken has been — is something sec. blinken has been working all around the clock— been working all around the clock with. something to deepen our partnerships with the who share — our partnerships with the who share our— our partnerships with the who share our vision with a free rules— share our vision with a free rules —based world. notjust in the indo—pacific region put around _ the indo—pacific region put around the planet. that is something that we will continue to work— something that we will continue to work towards. we something that we will continue to work towards.— something that we will continue to work towards. we are hearing that the press — to work towards. we are hearing that the press conference - to work towards. we are hearing that the press conference by - to work towards. we are hearing that the press conference by us| that the press conference by us presidentjoe biden has moved indoors because of rain in san francisco. we will bring you that as soon it starts. with me here in the studio. as a visiting research process or —— professor. thank you for your insights. china has said that it will not negotiate on taiwan without america adhering to the one china policy. how is that
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possible?— one china policy. how is that ossible? ., , , .,

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