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is evidence hamas has been using al—shifa as a command centre. among the things they have uncovered are more than a dozen kalashnikovs, grenades, personal protective equipment, some of it with the hamas military brigade insignia on it. both israel and the palestinians condemn the first un security council resolution calling for humanitarian pauses in the conflict. keir starmer suffers a major rebellion, with more than a quarter of mps calling for an immediate ceasefire in the world. i'm sarah campbell in london. the other headlines: president biden and china's xijinping meet for the first time in a year. they agree to resume high—level military communications.
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hello. welcome to bbc news. i'm mark lowen. we are coming to live from southern israel, overlooking gaza, where israel, overlooking gaza, where israel says it will provide proof that the group which it calls a terrorist group, mac, has been operating what it calls an operational command centre inside shifa hospital, the largest hospital in gaza, where israeli troops have been conducting a military operation. hamas has repeatedly denied the allegations. president biden says the us has asked israel to be incredibly careful, as its military operation at al—shifa hospital, which began yesterday, continues. the one thing that's been established is that hamas does have a headquarters, weapons, material, below this hospital, and i suspect others. our correspondent lucy williamson has been with the idf at al—shifa hospital.
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they say they will continue to provide photographic and video proof of what they say hamas is operating there. she spoke to us from jerusalem. israel is really coming under pressure to prove why it carried out the operation it is carrying out in gaza. and driving into gaza last night, it was clear just the scale of its military operation there. parts of the city looked as if it had been hit by an earthquake, buildings completely decimated, roads turned up, rows of tanks moving through the streets. so, i think the scale of the operation is clear, but also israel's desire to try and show the world why it is doing what it is doing. it is still very tense, they took us right into the heart of gaza city, into shifa hospital that has been the scene — at least the streets around it — have been the scene of some of the fiercest fighting over the past few days.
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we had to go in in darkness, through a hole in one of the perimeter walls, and we were taken to one specific department, the mri department in the hospital, we were not allowed to talk to other people, not to doctors, not to patients, we were shown the items that the idf said they had found there, hidden amongst the medical equipment. but as you say, the real proof that israel is under such global scrutiny for is to provide evidence of this network of tunnels beneath the hospital. that is something they haven't found yet, but they did say that it is very early days. there is a lot of the hospital still to search. and both they and the us intelligence community believe those tunnels are there. we are in an israeli military vehicle inside the gaza strip now. they are taking us towards gaza city. this area we are passing through an area where the ground operation first began weeks ago now. since then, the israeli army has fought its way methodically towards gaza city,
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towards the gates of the shifa hospital. that is where they are taking us now. we are still being told to keep our lights off. are we going this way? the israeli army has been really searching through this hospital. you can see they have had to force the door of the mri room here to get inside. they have been looking for evidence of this being a hamas base, a place where hamas planned attacks, and they say that among the things they have uncovered are more than a dozen kalashnikovs, grenades, personal protective equipment, some of it with the hamas military brigade insignia on it. you can see some of them here hidden under these bags of medical supplies. we are also told that there have been laptops found with some information about the hostages, recent files that suggest this may have been a hamas operating base
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as recently as a few days ago. well, there has been a lot of pressure on israel for the humanitarian cost of its operation in gaza, not least inside the shifa hospital where doctors say they are struggling to keep alive dozens of vulnerable newborn babies without enough electricity, food or water. but now that israel does have control of the hospital and is carrying out the searches, it is also under pressure to prove, to give some evidence about why it is actually there. williamson lucy with a rare glimpse into shifa hospital in gaza. —— lucy williamson. israeli police say they have killed three suspects involved in an attack on a checkpoint injerusalem. at least four people were shot, including one who was critically injured. two others suffered light injuries. the police said all the injured were members of security services.
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colonel moshe tetro is the head of co—ordination and liaison at cogat, the israeli defence ministry body handling civil affairs in gaza. i spoke to him a little earlier. i asked him about whether what's been observed at al—shifa hospital so far amounts to an operational command centre. iam sure i am sure that you already know and understand the core strategy of hamas is to operate from within civilian facilities, from within the population. as we have shown in another hospital, as we know from other places where they are operating from, un facilities, from
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inside schools, from around civilian shelters etc, we are currently conducting the search operation in shifa hospital. we have shown what we have found until now. and when we will finish this operation, of course we will share all we have found. ., , ., ., course we will share all we have found. ., . ., ~ found. no sign of a tunnel network disclosed so _ found. no sign of a tunnel network disclosed so far, _ found. no sign of a tunnel network disclosed so far, though. - found. no sign of a tunnel network disclosed so far, though. i - found. no sign of a tunnel network disclosed so far, though. i also - disclosed so far, though. i also want to remind _ disclosed so far, though. i also want to remind us _ disclosed so far, though. i also want to remind us all— disclosed so far, though. i also want to remind us all that - disclosed so far, though. i also i want to remind us all that before starting this operation and from the very beginning of the war, we were in direct coordination with the manager of the hospital, and we facilitated the opportunity to evacuate all people that were sheltered in the hospital and also for the wounded and injured. we also provided humanitarian aid to the hospital — fuelled, medical
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supplies, incubators etc. find hospital - fuelled, medical supplies, incubators etc. and we have seen _ supplies, incubators etc. and we have seen those _ supplies, incubators etc. and we have seen those photographs - supplies, incubators etc. and we have seen those photographs of| supplies, incubators etc. and we i have seen those photographs of the aid that the israeli defense forces have brought into the hospital. since we are talking about the humanitarian aid situation, let me give you a few figures. the un says 70% of gazans now lack access to clean water, 1.6 million are displaced, a child is killed every ten minutes, and every citizen in gazais ten minutes, and every citizen in gaza is now in need of food assistance. a few days ago, you said there was no humanitarian crisis in gaza. who is telling the truth? the situation in — gaza. who is telling the truth? tue: situation in gaza gaza. who is telling the truth? tte: situation in gaza is gaza. who is telling the truth? t'te: situation in gaza is very challenging, but we are in wartime. a war which we did not decide to open. i want us all to remember that this war started when hamas butchered our babies, killed our women, and knifed our elderly. they
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burned alive families inside their houses. while they are doing so, the idf will do everything in our power to reduce any harm to civilian population. every baby, every child being killed is something that we are very sorry for. i think that every human being, every human being which is not hamas feel sorry when they see loss of life. this is why from the very beginning of the war we are calling to the population of gaza to go south from the battlefield. while hamas does everything in their power to prevent it. because their strategy is to use their population as human shields. can ijust pick up, you remind us of the origins of this conflict on the 7th of october, the 1200 or so
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israelis who were murdered by hamas and almost 240 hostages still of course the trauma and the sight of the conflict depends. but can ijust push you on this, is there a humanitarian crisis in gaza? you denied it a few days ago. like humanitarian crisis in gaza? you denied it a few days ago.- denied it a few days ago. like i have said. _ denied it a few days ago. like i have said, the _ denied it a few days ago. like i have said, the situation - denied it a few days ago. like i have said, the situation in - denied it a few days ago. like i | have said, the situation in gaza denied it a few days ago. like i i have said, the situation in gaza is challenging, but every day there are tens of trucks loaded with food, water and other humanitarian aid to the south of gaza.— the south of gaza. colonel moshe tetro there- _ israeli forces have dropped leaflets in the khan younis area of southern gaza, warning people to evacuate their homes and head to shelters for their own safety. similar leaflets were also dropped over northern gaza weeks ahead of the ground offensive, suggesting imminent military operations may be planned for the south. the israeli military says its fighterjets have struck the house in gaza of the hamas political leader, ismail haniyeh. it's thought to have
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served as a meeting point for senior hamas leaders. mr haniyeh lives in exile in qatar. the ramifications of what is happening in gaza continue to spread over to london where the labour opposition leader sir keir starmer says he regrets the loss of ten of his shadow ministers who have quit theirjobs over the party's stance on the gaza conflict. a total of 56 labour mps backed a scottish national party amendment calling for a ceasefire. our chief political correspondent henry zeffman said he didn't think the resignations would change labour's stance. i think the resignations reflect the fact that labour's stance is unchanging. it's worth noting this is a big rebellion. in fact, it is the biggest parliamentary rebellion that there has been against keir starmer�*s authority, keir starmer�*s
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leadership, keir starmer�*s whip, as they call it in westminster, since he became labour leader almost four years ago. so that is embarrassing for him. on the other hand, his supporters say, "well, look, he was under a lot of pressure from his mps, who in turn are under a lot of pressure from some of their constituents, and he held firm." and given that he has gone through the political pain of accepting these inevitable resignations while trying to whittle them down to as small a number as possible. i would be very surprised if his position now changes going forward, unless the position of western allies, the us principally, changes significantly, at which point i think labour would move a bit. the un security council has approved a resolution calling for humanitarian pauses in the fighting in gaza.
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that is the first time they have done so since the conflict began. the us and the uk abstain from the vote. the resolution prioritises access for aid and calls for the immediate and unconditional release of hostages held inside gaza. both sides have criticised the move. there has been a breakdown of the most basic respect for humane values. the killing of so many civilians cannot be dismissed as collateral damage. the only winner of such a war is likely to be extremism and further extremism. that was the un humanitarian chief speaking a little earlier from geneva after his visit to the region. let's pick up on some of what is happening now on the ground. joining me now is professor nick maynard, a british surgeon who has worked in al—shifa hospital in gaza, on humanitarian missions, many times.
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thank you very much for sparing some of your time. can you tell us about what you are hearing from your contacts and colleagues on the ground, particularly in shifa hospital?— ground, particularly in shifa hosital? . ~ , . ., hospital? thank you very much for invitin: hospital? thank you very much for inviting me- _ hospital? thank you very much for inviting me. the _ hospital? thank you very much for inviting me. the situation - hospital? thank you very much for inviting me. the situation in - hospital? thank you very much for inviting me. the situation in shifal inviting me. the situation in shifa hospital is quite appalling. neither i nor any of my colleagues have managed to talk to our direct contacts therefore 36 hours. we have spoken to them regularly prior to that and i have spoken to other friends and colleagues outside shifa hospital in gaza who had been in contact with some of their colleagues. the situation there is quite appalling. there are roughly 500 patients left in shifa hospital. none of the aid that the israeli government say is going on is getting to those patients or doctors at all. there is no electricity, no fuel. patients in kidney failure who require dialysis are not getting dialysis, and therefore will be slowly dying of their kidney
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failure. so all the patients there are not being treated adequately and will inevitably die unless the siege is lifted, unless there is a ceasefire.— is lifted, unless there is a ceasefire. ., ., ceasefire. professor maynard, i understand _ ceasefire. professor maynard, i understand you _ ceasefire. professor maynard, i understand you have _ ceasefire. professor maynard, i understand you have been - ceasefire. professor maynard, i understand you have been to i ceasefire. professor maynard, i. understand you have been to shifa hospital some 30 times. when you look at footage the israeli forces are providing that they shall —— say shows weapons and explosives, hamas use of al shiva for military purposes. what is your response? t purposes. what is your response? i have seen no credible evidence that is the case. i have been there on many occasions, not quite as many as you say, but i have always had unrestricted access throughout the hospital. far more important in my experience is my very close friends and colleagues, who have worked in shifa hospitalfor and colleagues, who have worked in shifa hospital for decades and for the last four orfive shifa hospital for decades and for the last four or five weeks have been living there, and two i would
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trust implicitly because they have been friends for many years, have seen no evidence of any hamas soldiers in shifa hospital, have never had any restricted access to any part of the hospital. so i have heard of no evidence supporting the israeli claims. of course, i have no idea what is going on in any tunnels underneath, but i can say with absolute clarity that there is no credible evidence of the hamas militia using the hospital itself as a headquarters.— a headquarters. professor nick ma nard, a headquarters. professor nick maynard. we — a headquarters. professor nick maynard, we will _ a headquarters. professor nick maynard, we will have - a headquarters. professor nick maynard, we will have to - a headquarters. professor nick maynard, we will have to leave a headquarters. professor nick l maynard, we will have to leave it there. thank you for your thoughts. plenty more to comprise throughout the day. around the world and across the day. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. —— plenty more to come. let's look at some other stories making news. we are breaking away from our international coverage to bring you
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the latest as james cleverley is expected to deliver a short speech to the police chiefs at the association of police and crime commissioners and the national police chiefs council summit at the q e two conference in westminster. we are expecting him, as you can see, to speak in the next few minutes. those are the live pictures we have coming in from westminster. you can see the stage he is going to be speaking on. just in the corner there, the broadcasterjulie etchingham who is leading those speeches. what we are expecting mr cleverley to talk about is policing protest. obviously the police are under a lot of pressure at the moment when it comes to those protests, following calls for them to ban some protests in recent weeks, many people will remember, those controversial government plans to deport asylum seekers to rwanda. i am sure he will be speaking on a number of topics. we are expecting
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him to take to that stage in the next few minutes, so do stay with us on bbc news. first, the home secretary james cleverly was on radio four this morning. he was talking about the challenges he will face in his new position. when it came to the subject of deporting asylum seekers to rwanda, the presenter asked whether it was morally dubious declaring the country to be safe after the supreme court decided it wasn't. i believe that we can act in accordance with international law, and we are very determined to do that. but also, an important point is these international institutions can be updated, they can be... what is the word i'm looking for? reformed? reformed. there you go, see, i am helping you out. there you go, i do appreciate it. are you prepared to leave it, though?
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i literallyjust answered that. no, you didn't answer it because what i want to know is whether or not that is an option you are considering, you're prepared to do. it is not your favourite option, but you might only have bad options to choose from. so, we do not believe that is necessary, we believe we can put forward a set of plans which will bring us completely in accordance with international law. and the point i was making on monday, when the reshuffle was happening — and sadly this news was lost — we actually successfully got some reform of the echr on those pyjama injunctions that were being deployed in the middle of the night at last year to prevent the flights taking off. so we can make changes to the institutions, we can work with them and make reform. we can and we will always act within the framework of the law, but we are absolutely determined to do the right thing and make sure that this plan, the rwanda plan, which is part of our tackling illegal migration, is up and running. we are absolutely determined to do that. it was suggested in the house of commons yesterday — policy as... and we don't use this phrase lightly, so apologies to sensitive viewers —
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but that you describe this policy as... expletive. your falling straight into the trap. the labour party would love us to discuss this particular issue rather than the gaping vacuum in the labour party's immigration policy. xtour party's immigration policy. your fallin: party's immigration policy. your falling straight _ party's immigration policy. your falling straight into _ party's immigration policy. your falling straight into the - party's immigration policy. your falling straight into the trap of not answering the question. please just answer the question. did you use that phrase? will i do not remember a conversation like that. the point i am saying, i made this at the dispatch box, i listen very carefully to the labour party's proposals, and basically their grand idea is to do some of the things that the government is already doing but not all of the things we are proposing. but not all of the things we are proposing-— but not all of the things we are --roosina. ., , ., proposing. the bottom line is, and i do have a huge _ proposing. the bottom line is, and i do have a huge amount _ proposing. the bottom line is, and i do have a huge amount of _ proposing. the bottom line is, and i do have a huge amount of respect l proposing. the bottom line is, and i. do have a huge amount of respect for yvette cooper, she is experienced and thoughtful, but the labour party's position is all over the place. they do not know what they want, they have got no idea how they are going to get a grip of this.
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their grand plan, as i say, is to do some but not all of the things we are already doing. after their backbenchers were pulling appalling faces even at the idea of border control. —— half of their backbenchers. control. -- half of their backbenchers.- control. -- half of their backbenchers. ., ., , g ., , backbenchers. that was james cleverly speaking _ backbenchers. that was james cleverly speaking on _ backbenchers. that was james cleverly speaking on the - backbenchers. that was james cleverly speaking on the todayj cleverly speaking on the today programme a little earlier on. i am just keeping an eye on those live pictures coming in from westminster, from the qe2 conference centre where we are expecting him to deliver a speech. earlier the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, was asked about her own questions about police independence following the death of sarah everard. she took the opportunity to criticize the previous home secretary suella braverman. after an event, of course, the police will be held to account and of course, there will be questions. and at that time, we were i was the chair of the home affairs select committee. and actually the role of the home affairs select committee is to ask public questions of the police
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about decisions they've taken. so i think that is a proper democratic and legitimate role that i think is a very different role to the idea of a home secretary who is supposed to be working with the police in advance of an operation, making these blanket, sweeping statements about the impartiality of the police and undermining the impartiality of the police and saying somehow that they are picking favorites. i think that is deeply damaging. i think the police do make decisions without fear or favour. of course, there will be individual decisions that i might disagree with that all of us might disagree with. but if you are the home secretary, you don't use an individual decision to then cast aspersions about the partiality or impartiality of the police. that's really damaging and wrong and i think is unfair on the huge efforts that police forces go to, the chief constables, go to the officers go to to make sure that they are being impartial every single day.
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that was yvette cooper speaking a little earlier on. just a reminder, you are watching bbc news, we are breaking away from our international coverage because we want to bring you the latest as the home secretary james cleverley is expected to deliver a short speech to police chiefs at the association of police and crime commissioners and the national police chief council summit at the qe2 conference centre in westminster. we are showing you live pictures from the qe2 centre, live pictures from the qe2 centre, live pictures of the stage as we are expecting him to speak. many are expecting him to speak. many are expecting james cleverley to take a slightly different approach to his predecessor, suella braverman, who many will remember pressed the commissioner of the metropolitan police, sir mark rowley, to ban a pro—palestinian demonstration in central london. well, sir mark is
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talking right now, and we should be able to cross live to that and take able to cross live to that and take a listen to what he has to say at the moment. let's listen in. that is a bi the moment. let's listen in. that is a his capacity _ the moment. let's listen in. that is a his capacity in _ the moment. let's listen in. that is a big capacity in neighbourhoods, i a big capacity in neighbourhoods, alongside the police officers who work there. we have started building that number and that number is going to grow by maybe a couple hundred this year. my intent would be to grow that all the way forward. i know the mayor is very keen on pcs ors as well. renting policing so you have a local presence that is dealing with issues you can see. a second particularly big issue, how we deal with male predatory violence against women and children. it is an area that we have been rightly criticised in some respects. it is an under resourced area. as confidence has grown to report these issues and offences like rape and domestic violence have tripled or quadrupled in the amount they have been reported, which is both
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fantastic that it is coming forward but the resources and the capacity to deal with that has not moved at that pace and that creates stretched services, which sometimes lights down victims, which is tragic at a particularly difficult moment in our lives. we now have a stored criminal justice system that is making that harder. i know the new tpp has this firmly in his mind about trying to improve some of these issues. we are putting more resources, into that area, we are doing lots with training, adopting some different ways of investigating these crimes. we are also testing how, rather than just reacting to these type of offences, can we use data and analytics to identify the most dangerous male predators in london and proactively go after them to protect people going forward? that is already showing some early results. those are some of the indications about how we are changing how we operate. wide i also want to talk about the kc review, you have mentioned it in your
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opening statement you have mentioned it in your opening statemen- you have mentioned it in your opening statemen you have mentioned it in your oenin: statement . . . , opening statement culture change is about more than _ opening statement culture change is about more than just _ opening statement culture change is about more than just removing - about more than just removing individuals who should not be there. in her review, she found that the met was institutionally misogynist, racist. i know that you accepted her diagnosis and apologise to the people of london. but you did refuse to use the term institutional, you said determine different things to different people. i talk to some organisations to prepare for this event, some represented minority groups. i spoke also to lots of organisations that work closely with the met. all of them raise this issue of not wanting to own that term, institutional. all those people felt they didn't understand and recognise what it meant. i suppose i would really like to understand, what does the term institutional mean to you and why don't you want to apply that to the met, given as you say culture change is about more than just individuals? we arejust going is about more than just individuals? we are just going to leave that
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interview with the interview with sir mark rowley and listen in as the new home secretary delivers his first speech. new home secretary delivers his first speech-— new home secretary delivers his first seech. . ~ ., ., ., first speech. thank you for allowing me to inject — first speech. thank you for allowing me to inject myself _ first speech. thank you for allowing me to inject myself into _ first speech. thank you for allowing me to inject myself into your - me to inject myself into your proceedings. the policing minister, i spoke to you yesterday, much of the detail of the policy will run through with you. i look around the room and i see a number of people who i recognise. i think i am a familiarface to a who i recognise. i think i am a familiar face to a number of you. that is notjust because of a word childhood in lewisham. —— way word childhood. a number you will have met me when i previously served on the metropolitan police authority during my time in london government. you will note, those of you who have worked with me before, you will know the importance that i place on effective operational policing and on the effective oversight and
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leadership through the police and crime commissioner. so it is a genuine pleasure to be here addressing you so early in my tenure. this is not the speech i was expecting to give today. much of the speech i was expecting to give had ukrainian in it, but david cameron is currently doing that. but this is a real pleasure. you will also perhaps know that i was chair of the london fire and emergency planning authority. so for those in the room who are involved in the fire service around the country, the police, crime and fire commissioners, thank you for the work that you do. we all recognise that these are very, very challenging times, notjust the acute challenges of policing public order, which i know has a ripple effect right across the country and
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the pressure of public order policing will be felt notjust in the capital, notjust the metropolitan police, but widely across the country. we are also very conscious of digitally enabled crime putting new and evolving pressures on you and your officers and forces and the communities that you serve. it is a challenging time. and a challenging and difficult times, it is absolutely paramount that we do everything we can to avoid the dissipation of energy. we want to work at maximum efficiency, we want to ensure that every hour, every penny is deployed in the service of the people that we are here to protect. that is as true of the newest warranted officer, the newest
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member of staff in one of your force areas, the newest member of staff in the pccs offices. because the challenge never gets easier. it evolves and it gets harder. that is why we need to work effectively together. and together is the key, thatis together. and together is the key, that is the thing that i really wanted to put across in my short words to you today. we have a duty to the british people to work constructively together for their benefit. i want you to know that it is... as much as it is possible to have an open door policy when you're the home secretary, i want you to feel that you can speak with me and my team at the foreign... laughing
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