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the director of gaza's biggest hospital says it has run out of oxygen and water, leaving people there the army took the bbc into a small part of the hospital, and was shown rifles, ammunition and body armour which israel says hamas had hidden there. the idf also said it had found laptops containing photos and videos of hostages held by hamas, considered a terror organisation by the uk and many other western governments. israeli military restrictions meant that our correspondent lucy williamson wasn't allowed to speak to doctors or patients but her words aren't censored, and she described what she saw. we are in an israeli military
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vehicle inside the gaza strip. they are taking us towards gaza city. this area where the ground operation first began weeks ago now. since then, the israeli army has fought its way, methodically, towards gaza city, towards the gates of al—shifa hospital. that is where they are taking us now. we are still being told to keep our lights off. are we going this way? the israeli army has been searching through this hospital. you can see they have had to force the door of the mri room to get inside. they have been looking for evidence of this being a hamas base, a place where hamas planned attacks, and they said that among the things they have uncovered are more than a dozen kalashnikovs, grenades, personal protective equipment, some of it with the hamas military brigade insignia on it. you can see some of them here hidden beneath bags of medical supplies. we are also told they have been laptops found with some information about the hostages, recent files that suggest this may have been a hamas operating base
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as recently as a few days ago. osama hamdan is a senior representative of hamas in lebanon. he's been giving a press conference and has been responding to the israeli claims that the al shifa hospital is a hamas stronghold. all those weapons were not in al—shifa. there is no, no centre or control room for hamas in this hospital. we avoid all the hospitals, all the time. the israelis have said that about another hospital and they were lying. everyone realised they were lying. everyone realised they were lying and now everyone is watching their lies, even with the support of their lies, even with the support of the united states administration, which is a very silly and stupid support, because you cannotjust believe benjamin netanyahu, who is a liar, and everyone knows that.
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gaza's main telecommunications companies say all telecom services in the gaza strip have gone down, as their energy sources are now depleted. this was something we have been warned about for a couple of days now. the two major telecoms providers in gaza say they are not able to provide services any more. the reason for this is a lack of fuel, they are not able to power the services that people may have normal times. an illustration of this is that we have been trying to get through to three different doctors at the al—shifa hospital that may be talking about so much but so far today, we have not been able to do that. that has been different from previous days were communications have been tricky but every now and then, messages or voice notes managed to trickle out but to date has been really difficult. one company that monitors internet use
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says if you look at gaza at the moment, and they have provided a graph or a visual representation of this, and you really see how it has dropped like a stone, the amount of coverage people have in gaza. tell us about the _ coverage people have in gaza. tell us about the situation in al—shifa hospital, the fighting in and around it? it hospital, the fighting in and around it? , ., , ,, ., it? it is worth stressing that we cannot independently _ it? it is worth stressing that we cannot independently verify - it? it is worth stressing that we | cannot independently verify what it? it is worth stressing that we - cannot independently verify what is going on and it seems the situation has changed quite a lot from when lucy was there when she was taken in with the idf forces. the latest information we have had cams from the director of the hospital who says that it is a desperate state in terms of the lack of power and electricity. he says the idf and is release holders are going from different parts of the hospital, from one word to another, and consequently, doctors are not able to move around. he says also that in terms of the medical work, they are
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doing what they can but it is a really difficult situation. there is a journalist who we have been in contact with over the last few days who is still at al—shifa hospital and he described is really soldiers shooting everywhere and also that one wall had been partly damaged so that potentially bulldozers had been brought up to the site. the is release say they are carrying out what is a targeted operation, that they are doing this in a meticulous way and doing all they can to proceed with their operations without putting civilians in harm's way. earlier we asked the jordanian earlier we asked thejordanian debit minister about the incident. what
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minister about the incident. what ha--ened minister about the incident. what happened at _ minister about the incident. what happened at five: _ minister about the incident. what happened at five: 30 _ minister about the incident. brief happened at five: 30 local time, minister about the incident. wiat happened at five: 30 local time, a number of palestinians came rushing to the emergency entrance of the hospital carrying wounded people who had been attacked in a building nearby. when our people went to start helping them, there was another attack that resulted in the injuries of seven of our own. since then today, the situation remains very, very terrible. israel has besieged the hospital. within 50 metres of the hospital, they are not allowing anybody in or out so we have about 250 palestinians who have taken shelter on the premise of our hospital, denied movement. our own people are not being able to go to the storage to get supplies, which is very near the hospital. a very, very terrible situation and there is no explanation for what israel has done or is still doing at the hospital. it is obligated by
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international law to allow medical facilities to operate. it is in violation of the international law and this is yet another war crime that israel continues to commit in gaza and tragically, with the whole world still unable to come up forcefully and say, enough is enough. you have done enough killing, this work has to stop. israel has not responded specifically to this incident but i do maintain that hamas keeps weapons, command centres in gaza's medicalfacilities. we weapons, command centres in gaza's medical facilities. we are looking at pictures that they have supplied of evidence of that. do you know if there are any hamas rings around this hospital? there are any hamas rings around this “spite”— there are any hamas rings around this hospital?— this hospital? that would be ridiculous — this hospital? that would be ridiculous if _ this hospital? that would be ridiculous if such _ this hospital? that would be ridiculous if such claims - this hospital? that would be| ridiculous if such claims were this hospital? that would be - ridiculous if such claims were made. israel cannot claim that there is a hamas centre by medical personnel. so, absolutely, this would be
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ridiculous to understand such an idea. we have been there since 2009 providing medical care to gaza and we have treated over 4 million people since then, we have treated over 4,000 since this work has started. let mejust over 4,000 since this work has started. let me just tell you something else, we got numerous calls today from the sons of people who are held in a monastery, ii monastery, about four kilometres from hospital. a doctor called us, pleading to help their family, from hospital. a doctor called us, pleading to help theirfamily, his mum, who is stuck with 400 other people in the church with no access to food and hospital. they are within four kilometres from our hospital and he is saying anybody who goes out is being shut out immediately. there is no justification of that in our hospital or at the church. i would israel besiege people there? why would it shoot at everybody there? this narrative of hamas violence is just ridiculous when comes to our hospital and our church, if such
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narrative is made. we are joined now by eylon levy, spokesperson for the israeli government and veteran of the israel defense forces. we will talk more about the jordanian field hospital shortly but i want to ask you specifically what is happening at the al—shifa hospital where the idf says that there is an operation going on. we have heard from eyewitnesses saying there is shooting going on all around the hospital and inside and there is bulldozers outside. can you tell us what is happening there? i cannot comment on specific operational matters but the idf has been operating inside the hospital about the shiva,. for a month now we have been warning that hamas hides underneath hospitals. but as a claim the european union reaffirmed just a few days ago i did commend hamas's use of hospitals as human shields. we called on hamas to surrender and
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stop abusing the hospital, stop exploiting international law by checking that protected site and jeopardising its protected status by hiding its millions inside it and now ourforces had gone in, we have taken in media as well, getting the bbc. very soon the full extent of hamas's takeover of the hospital and the wait has been exploiting the mosques and schools will be plain for all to see. we are exposing their work crimes as we systematically dismantle its terror state in response to the october seven massacre.— state in response to the october seven massacre. how many mittens have ou seven massacre. how many mittens have you found — seven massacre. how many mittens have you found or — seven massacre. how many mittens have you found or killed _ seven massacre. how many mittens have you found or killed there? - seven massacre. how many mittens have you found or killed there? i . have you found or killed there? i cannot comment on specific matters. what can you tell about the operation? do you believe you have found definitive proof that you can show to the world that there is a hamas control centre in or underneath the hospital? this hamas control centre in or underneath the hospital? this is a fast moving _ underneath the hospital? this is a fast moving scene _ underneath the hospital? this is a fast moving scene and _ underneath the hospital? this is a fast moving scene and the - underneath the hospital? this is a fast moving scene and the forcesl underneath the hospital? this is a l fast moving scene and the forces on the ground who are there with your reporters will present that evidence as soon we can and give them access as soon we can and give them access as soon we can and give them access as soon as it is safe to do so. in the meantime you will be aware of the meantime you will be aware of
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the criticism that israel is coming under four operating the criticism that israel is coming underfour operating in the criticism that israel is coming under four operating in and the criticism that israel is coming underfour operating in and around hospital which should come under international law, be protected spaces so there is some urgency for israel to find and deliver this proof? israel to find and deliver this roof? ., ., . ., proof? you are correct that under national law. _ proof? you are correct that under national law, hospitals _ proof? you are correct that under national law, hospitals must - proof? you are correct that under national law, hospitals must be i national law, hospitals must be protected. according to the geneva convention, hospitals must not be used as bases for military activities and to the extent that they are used as basis for military activities, thatjeopardises their protected status. article 41 is very clear, 31 is very clear on that matter that when they are used and abused for military purposes, we are entitled to give sufficient warning and when that warning is gone unheeded, the hospital's protected status lapses and that is what has happened after a month in which we have been alerting the world to the abuse that hamas has been making of hospitals across the gaza strip after calling on it to surrender after calling on it to surrender after that warning has gone unheeded and we know that we are fully acting within our obligations under
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international law which does not give blanket amenity to terrorists just because they choose to hide under hospitals.— just because they choose to hide under hositals. . . , , , under hospitals. hamas denies these claims and denies... _ under hospitals. hamas denies these claims and denies. .. of— under hospitals. hamas denies these claims and denies... of course, - under hospitals. hamas denies these claims and denies... of course, they| claims and denies... of course, they also deny that _ claims and denies... of course, they also deny that it _ claims and denies... of course, they also deny that it holds _ claims and denies. .. of course, they also deny that it holds civil— claims and denies... of course, they also deny that it holds civil and - also deny that it holds civil and hostages and we know that they are holding 240 hostages. he had a clip with a serial liar who days ago said that hamas is not holdings hostages. they are, they are holding children and babies and this is a terror organisation but on october seven, burned, tortured, raped and then mind about it to the entire world so the fact that hamas denies it does not need to be said. let the fact that hamas denies it does not need to be said.— the fact that hamas denies it does not need to be said. let me ask you about the water _ not need to be said. let me ask you about the water and _ not need to be said. let me ask you about the water and oxygen - not need to be said. let me ask you about the water and oxygen in - not need to be said. let me ask you about the water and oxygen in the l about the water and oxygen in the hospital. the director of the al—shifa hospital has said is really troops have blown up the main water supply and the people are screaming for thirst, supply and the people are screaming forthirst, in his supply and the people are screaming for thirst, in his words. i5 supply and the people are screaming for thirst, in his words.— for thirst, in his words. is that the case? _ for thirst, in his words. is that the case? israel— for thirst, in his words. is that the case? israel has _ for thirst, in his words. is that the case? israel has been - the case? israel has been facilitating the provision of your monetary and aid into the hospital.
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has it blown up the main water supply to the hospital? i has it blown up the main water supply to the hospital?- has it blown up the main water supply to the hospital? i have not heard that support _ supply to the hospital? i have not heard that support but _ supply to the hospital? i have not heard that support but what - supply to the hospital? i have not heard that support but what i - supply to the hospital? i have not heard that support but what i can | heard that support but what i can say is, over the weekend, israel hand—delivered 300 litres of fuel for the use of generators. hamas stopped and using it on the first thing we did as soon as we enter that compound, going on together with medical teams and arabic speakers, we brought them into the operation, we did not target them as the bbc incorrectly reported, was to deliver humanitarian aid, to give them inky baiters and food and medical supplies because that is part of how we see the conduct of this moral campaign and what is obviously a very difficult circumstance, having to operate in a hospital where hamas has been trying to use people as human shields. it's all strategy is based on hiding behind civilians. hamas knows the minute it cannot hide behind siblings, the hostages it is holding of our people, there is nothing to stop the full might of the israeli
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army bringing the monsters to justice. i army bringing the monsters to 'ustice. ., ., _, ., justice. i want to come to the jordanian _ justice. i want to come to the jordanian field _ justice. i want to come to the jordanian field hospital, - justice. i want to come to the jordanian field hospital, i - justice. i want to come to the j jordanian field hospital, i was speaking to thejordanian deputy prime minister and he was saying that israel struck a field hospital inside gaza leading to tens being killed and wounded. do you know anything about that, do you know whether another did happen yesterday? i whether another did happen yesterday?— whether another did happen yesterday? whether another did happen esterda ? ., ., ., ., yesterday? i am not familiar with that specific _ yesterday? i am not familiar with that specific report _ yesterday? i am not familiar with that specific report but _ yesterday? i am not familiar with that specific report but as - yesterday? i am not familiar with that specific report but as we - yesterday? i am not familiar with l that specific report but as we move dismantle hamas's terror state, we have been providing evidence as to where they have been systematically abusing hospitals and ambulances and locating the lunches for its booby—traps inside clinics and using its own ambulances to transport terrorists. i don't know what happened in this case but unfortunately we are fighting against an enemy that has spent the best part of 16 years deliberately embedding itself under civilly in areas in order to be difficult for our army to reach them. we are continuing with our goal to get civilians out of harm's way, peeling
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away those layers of human shields so we can go up to the monsters who perpetrated the october seven massacre. ., perpetrated the october seven massacre-— perpetrated the october seven massacre. ., , ., , ., massacre. your goal is to try to free these _ massacre. your goal is to try to free these 240 _ massacre. your goal is to try to free these 240 hostages - massacre. your goal is to try to free these 240 hostages taken | massacre. your goal is to try to i free these 240 hostages taken on october seven. there are suggestions over the last 24—hour is that a deal is possibly in the offing for around 50 women and children to be freed. it is very difficult, i'm sure, because you will not want to raise the hopes, perhaps wrongly, of those families who have been taken. what can you tell us about the hope that hostages could be released? the less sensitively we — hostages could be released? the less sensitively we speak _ hostages could be released? the less sensitively we speak about _ hostages could be released? the less sensitively we speak about this, - hostages could be released? the less sensitively we speak about this, the l sensitively we speak about this, the more likely hostages will not return home. children and babies have been held for 40 days now. we are doing a thing we can to bring them home safely. we are demanding their immediate and unconditional return and read access to them. —— red
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cross access. i cannot speculate about this on tv. i cross access. i cannot speculate about this on tv.— cross access. i cannot speculate about this on tv. i want to talk to ou about this on tv. i want to talk to you about — about this on tv. i want to talk to you about the _ about this on tv. i want to talk to you about the situation _ about this on tv. i want to talk to you about the situation inside - you about the situation inside israel with regards to the political implications of all of this and how people are feeling about prime minister benjamin netanyahu. you know that the opposition party leader has called for him to resign and there is a lot of frustration from notjust the and there is a lot of frustration from not just the families of those hostage victims but across the country, that perhaps he is not the right man to be leading this country through this war and into the future. do you feel that he is? are you confident that he has the right man for thisjob? you confident that he has the right man for this job?— man for this 'ob? people are right to ask a man for this job? people are right to ask a very _ man for this job? people are right to ask a very difficult _ man for this job? people are right to ask a very difficult questions i to ask a very difficult questions about what happened on the seventh october and the prime minister has been clear that when this war is over and when it ends with israel's total victory over hamas, we will have those difficult discussions and everyone encoding the prime minister
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will have to give full accountability for the failure of what happened then but for now, we are focusing on this war, unwillingness war and destroying the monsters who perpetrated the massacre. i can tell you the whole of his releases ideas united on this. people understand this war can only end with the total defeat of hamas and that is what we are focusing on our and on the questions that will help us prosecute that war and we will open everything up when this war ends. and we will open everything up when this war ends-— around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. in a world first, british regulators have approved a gene therapy that aims to cure two blood disorders, sickle cell disease and beta thalassemia. it's the first treatment to be licensed that uses a tool known as crispr, which can be used to correct faults in the dna of cells, allowing them to produce haemoglobin. the energy regulator, ofgem, is launching a public consultation on standing charges. the fees are added to most
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gas and electricity bills at a daily rate and can't be reduced no matter how much you cut back on your usage. people have until 19january to submit their views. bbc analysis shows two—thirds of nhs maternity units in england don't consistently meet safety standards, as assessed by the health regulator. the care quality commission says maternity has the worst safety ratings of all the hospital services it inspects. the government said maternity care is of the 'utmost importance'. you're live with bbc news. let's speak now to alyona synenko, regional spokesperson of the international committee of the red cross injerusalem. who was critical for not trying to
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not have contact with the hostages taken by hamas, can you just explain what your role is and why israel has that expectation? first what your role is and why israel has that expectation?— that expectation? first of all, i think it is _ that expectation? first of all, i think it is easy _ that expectation? first of all, i think it is easy to _ that expectation? first of all, i think it is easy to understand l that expectation? first of all, i l think it is easy to understand the anger and frustration because the families of the hostages are going through a total nightmare, waiting for any kind of news about their loved ones every single day. the icrc has a specific role as a neutral intermediary according to the geneva conventions and our role is to protect civilians and hostages are also civilians affected by this conflict. first of all, we have been calling for their immediate release because taking hostages is against the international humanitarian law and we have also been asking to get access to them to be able to see
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them, to check on their health, bring medicine and most importantly, give news to their families. imilieu give news to their families. when ou sa give news to their families. when you say you _ give news to their families. when you say you have _ give news to their families. when you say you have been _ give news to their families. when you say you have been asking - give news to their families. when you say you have been asking for| you say you have been asking for access to them, who have you been asking? have you had any response? we are talking to hamas, we are talking to any other people who have influence on the situations at all different levels. there is a lot of humanitarian diplomacy efforts that we are undertaking and a lot of discussions that i cannot go into details about because these discussions are taking place behind closed doors. but this is a priority for us because the families are desperate for answers and because these people should be released. even though you cannot tell me the detail, and we all understand why, can you chalice if you have had any response from hamas? brute can you chalice if you have had any response from hamas?— can you chalice if you have had any response from hamas? we have not been able. — response from hamas? we have not
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been able, unfortunately, _ response from hamas? we have not been able, unfortunately, to - response from hamas? we have not been able, unfortunately, to bring i been able, unfortunately, to bring the information to the families that they are desperately seeking. this is not for the lack of trying. we are a humanitarian organisation and our ability to be able to work depends on the access that is given to us. we cannot force our way through the billets, through the bombs. we are there to provide humanitarian services and we are ready to step in and to help facilitate more releases of hostages. we have been able to facilitate the release of four people so far but without the necessary access, we just cannot do our job. necessary access, we 'ust cannot do our 'ob. , ., ., ,, ourjob. tell us about your work in and around _ ourjob. tell us about your work in and around the _ ourjob. tell us about your work in and around the hospitals, - ourjob. tell us about your work in and around the hospitals, the - and around the hospitals, the military and situation in gaza. we understand there is very few working hospitals now in the gaza strip. the hospitals now in the gaza strip. tie: humanitarian situation in gaza is getting more dire and more desperate
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with every single day. indeed, the situation in hospitals is particularly of concern. it is heartbreaking to see the images that are coming from the hospitals that are coming from the hospitals that are now turning into battlefields. we are in touch with the minister of health with the parties, reminding that insisting that civilians at doctors, that patients, winded people that receive treatment in those hospitals and also all the people who all the civilians who were displaced, they are protected by the international humanitarian law. there should be spared from any harm. ., . ., ., i. law. there should be spared from any harm. ., . ., ., ., ., harm. how much aid are you managing to net in harm. how much aid are you managing to get in via — harm. how much aid are you managing to get in via the _ harm. how much aid are you managing to get in via the rafah _ harm. how much aid are you managing to get in via the rafah crossing? - to get in via the rafah crossing? the amount of aid that we have been able to bring, the urgent supplies, is largely insufficient compared to the massive needs that we are seeing
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today. i speak to our surgeons that are working in gaza european hospital, treating severe winds, treating burns, and roughly half of their patients are children, and they are running out of the basic supplies like dressing material, like anaesthetics all stopped today we managed to deliver one track of urgent medical supplies to a hospital in the middle area of gaza that has hundreds of patients and several thousand displaced people there, but if you trucks of supplies here and there are simply not enough to cover the massive needs that we continue to see.— continue to see. what are the difficulties — continue to see. what are the difficulties that _ continue to see. what are the difficulties that the _ continue to see. what are the difficulties that the eye - continue to see. what are the difficulties that the eye crc i continue to see. what are the l difficulties that the eye crc are experiencing and getting more aid in. i experiencing and getting more aid in. ~' ., ., “ experiencing and getting more aid in. ~' ., in. i think if we look at the conflict and _ in. i think if we look at the conflict and the _ in. i think if we look at the conflict and the price, - in. i think if we look at the conflict and the price, the | in. i think if we look at the - conflict and the price, the price that civilians are paying for this
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violence, the civilians held hostage in the palestinian civilians trapped in the palestinian civilians trapped in this horrendous fighting, we are just seeing that there is not enough humanitarian space for a neutral humanitarian space for a neutral humanitarian organisation... but is it a chipped. _ humanitarian organisation... but is it a chipped. is _ humanitarian organisation... but is it a chipped. is it — humanitarian organisation... but is it a chipped, is it israel? _ humanitarian organisation... but is it a chipped, is it israel? what - humanitarian organisation... but is it a chipped, is it israel? what is i it a chipped, is it israel? what is the hold—up and getting more aid in? —— mikey chipped. i the hold-up and getting more aid in? -- mikey chipped-— -- mikey chipped. i don't want to net into -- mikey chipped. i don't want to get into the _ -- mikey chipped. i don't want to get into the intricacies. _ -- mikey chipped. i don't want to get into the intricacies. what - -- mikey chipped. i don't want to get into the intricacies. what is i get into the intricacies. what is clear, and the message that we want to pass is that we need more supplies to get in.— to pass is that we need more supplies to get in. thank you so much for your— supplies to get in. thank you so much for your time _ supplies to get in. thank you so much for your time today. - supplies to get in. thank you so much for your time today. stay | much for your time today. stay without here on bbc news, we'll be back with plenty more of the day was top stories. hello. last night was the coldest night of the autumn so far. in northern scotland
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temperatures dropped below minus seven celsius, with some fog patches, too. but that is where we've seen some of the best of the sunshine today. whereas further south, this hook of cloud, which was named storm frederico by the french weather service, has brought some rain and some brisk winds in the far south of england and the channel islands. that is now clearing away south—eastwards. we do have this frontal system pushing in from the west, some outbreaks of rain with that. but actually quite a lot of dry weather as we end the afternoon and head into the evening. and then overnight, this band of cloud and rain will make some further progress eastwards. some showers following on behind. in the north east of scotland, if we hold on to clear skies once again, we will see some fog patches developing. temperatures again dropping well below freezing. and actually it is going to be a chilly night for many of us. a chilly start to friday morning. friday is going to be a quieter day. still a few residual weather fronts in the mix to start the day. but broadly speaking, this brief and quite weak ridge of high pressure will be just about in charge. so, yes, a bit of cloud to start off in eastern parts,
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a few showers out towards the west, but a decent amount of dry weather, some spells of sunshine, the winds relatively light. temperatures north to south, 6 to 13 degrees. and then a band of cloud and rain pushing into the south west of england later in the day. that rain will make some progress northwards and eastwards across the south west of england, wales, northern ireland. some other western parts turning wet as we head deeper into the evening and as we get into the start of the weekend, well, this frontal system drives eastwards. outbreaks of rain with that, low pressure firmly in charge for the weekend. but with south westerly winds, it is going to be mild. with that, though, we'll see quite a lot of rain, wet weather for many of us to start saturday morning. and even as the main rain band clears, we will see a mix of sunny spells and hefty, blustery, perhaps thundery showers. some strong winds — strongest winds likely to be in northern and northeastern parts. we could see gales in places and temperatures for most of us in double digits. in fact, cardiff and plymouth could get to 16 degrees,
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as gaza's largest hospital says it's ran out of water and oxygen, the bbc goes inside to see what israel says its found there. pedro sanchez wins a new term as spain's prime minister, after securing a controversial amnesty deal for some catalan separatists. a bbc investigation finds the uk's second most senior general was warned of alleged war crimes in afghanistan, but failed to inform the military police. and one giant leap for tom hanks. the oscar—winning actor helps people experience a journey to the moon. time for a look at the business news now. we start in the us where the retail giant walmart has just realised their latest results. the chain has warned investors that consumers are still holding back their spending as they deal with the cost of living crisis. their shares fell 7% after the markets opened
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