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we can have our loved possibility we can have our loved one home — possibility we can have our loved one home and all the other families as welt _ one home and all the other families as well. and i think it is cruel. the truce will begin at 7am local time, with 13 israeli hostages to be released by hamas tomorrow afternoon. ahead of that deadline, israel has been bombarding sites across gaza today. some 300 targets have been taken out. this is the live picture tonight — we will get reaction from the families of the hostages, and one of the palestinian negotiators who drew up a blueprint for the release. also tonight — the anti—islam populist, geert wilders is beginning work on forming a coalition government. but will the main parties give him the support he needs to become prime minister? and the blue wales, back in the indian ocean after being
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hunted almost to extinction. good evening. we were hoping to bring you news tonight that the ceasefire in gaza was already under way. but there have been delays, technical issues to iron out, and quite a bit of tension that things might unravel. but the qataris, who have played a central role behind the scenes, think the plan is now in place, and robust enough to believe hostilities, will end at 7am tomorrow morning, local time. by lipm, we expect that 13 hostages will be released, their names are on a list supplied by hamas today, and communicated to the families. once they are out, israel will release 35 palestinians prisoners in return. here's the spokeseman for the qatari foreign minister. the for the qatari foreign minister. first batch of civilia released the first batch of civilians to be released from gaza will be around for pm of the same day. there will
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be 13 in number, all women and children and those hostages from the same families will be put together within the same patch. every day will include a number of civilians, as agreed, the total 50 within the four days. in gaza today — the storm before the calm. israel has stepped up its assault across gaza. this the scene in rafah in the far south of gaza in the aftermath of an israeli air strike. and tonight reuters reporting that 30 people have died in an attack on an unrwa school injabiliya, to the north, where people were sheltering. those figures are from the hamas led ministry of health. we have also heard the director of the al—shifa hospital abu salmiya was detained by the idf while he was evacuating
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from the north with the who. he was arrested along with several other medical staff. in a statement the idf said that "under his management, there was extensive hamas terrorist activity" and a "tunnel network" under the complex which "exploited electricity and resources taken from the hospital". we will show you a video they posted on x the location where it was filmed has not been independently verifided by the bbc. this tunnel is a complex tunnel. it's not the ones we know, it is more convenient for long living, you have toilets. you have rooms. rooms that were built in order to contain people. but this room is an operational room because it has communication with the city. the hospital is providing electricity.
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this room was evacuated. i guess it was evacuated when they understand we were going to enter al—shifa hospital. you can see how long it is there going. this is a kitchen that will provide them food. all of these facilities, water and food are coming from the hospital. they are using the hospital infrastructures. they are using the hospital infrastructures in order to provide this terror mechanism to stay alive and survive. hamas has denied using al—shifa as a military base. dr omar abdel mannan, who's co—founder of gaza medic voices, told the bbc dr salamiya was not the only medic who'd been targeted. he may be the most significant that has been captured, but the important
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fact there are three other doctors that have disappeared since the announcement has been made and i can only presume they have been taken into custody by the idea. so these are for individuals, all of them higher within the organisation and one is a common terms of a junior doctor which was sponsored by a programme in the uk, they have all been detain. i can only assume they have been kidnapped because i cannot think of any other word that causes the detainment of health care professionals who have been looking after patients and working in the most horrific conditions. we have seen since the 7th of october, continual escalation in terms of the
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systematic ducting of health care workers inside gaza.— systematic ducting of health care workers inside gaza. james, we had the palestinian _ workers inside gaza. james, we had the palestinian foreign _ workers inside gaza. james, we had the palestinian foreign minister- workers inside gaza. james, we had the palestinian foreign minister in l the palestinian foreign minister in the palestinian foreign minister in the studio the other day he said he was going to meet david cameron and then david cameron goes straight out to the region to meet benjamin netanyahu and other arab leaders. a lot of diplomacy going on in the background?— background? yes, there is. we shouldn't _ background? yes, there is. we shouldn't forget _ background? yes, there is. we shouldn't forget that _ background? yes, there is. we shouldn't forget that while - background? yes, there is. we shouldn't forget that while all i shouldn't forget that while all these discussions take place over these discussions take place over the hostages, there are continuing discussions behind—the—scenes about the wider war. david cameron was very keen to say if this deal can happen, if they can be some kind of humanitarian causes should be used, notjust humanitarian causes should be used, not just to get humanitarian causes should be used, notjust to get more desperately needed humanitarian aid into gaza, which he was very firm about but to see whether or not there could be used some way to reshape the dynamic
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of this conflict in some way to see if there is some way of breaking out at the incredibly destructive rut it has got itself into. in other words, he and other western leaders want to start talking about the future, what happens when the fighting stabilises, finishes, comes to an end? who is going to be governing gaza? it will be finding new ways of supporting the palestinian authorities. the foreign arthur said today, you can talk about long—term political situations define the justice and security for israel and the palestinians, which is incredibly forward—thinking stuff to say the least, at the time when this war continues. mr netanyahu was very explicit today, saying even if all the hostages were released, israel would maintain its raids on hamas.
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when you talk about reshaping the dynamic, james, the qataris in their press conference today said it is their hope that shoes can be extended indefinitely. is david cameron going that far, do you think? . ., �* , ., think? -- the truce. no, he's not auoin think? -- the truce. no, he's not going that _ think? -- the truce. no, he's not going that far _ think? -- the truce. no, he's not going that far in _ think? -- the truce. no, he's not going that far in as _ think? -- the truce. no, he's not going that far in as much - think? -- the truce. no, he's not going that far in as much as - going that far in as much as everybody here has been very cautious. they don't want to completely overburden this deal with too much weight. but i think there are some who say, if this pause can take place, then potentially you could maybe get it to extend, maybe you can have other forms of cooperation that could just break the cycle of violence at the moment. israel is making it clear, it has no appetite to do that at the moment but it has agreed to a deal that if more hostages are released, humanitarian causes continue. it is
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a small chink of light, no more than that but something diplomats, they are paid to be optimistic are hoping and could be something that could turn the key. you hear official saying, let's do some forward thinking so that we could just start that debate that israel then potentially could start to slipstream behind. that's why behind—the—scenes you are having countries, notjust in the gulf but in the united states and europe, what is next? they see it as their job to do, to do the heavy load. i job to do, to do the heavy load. i have to say, when i interviewed the palestinian foreign minister, he caught me unawares. i thought he was going to give me the line we had heard from mark meuser bass, we're not going to ride into gaza on the back of an israeli tank. but he was much more robust about what they palestinian could play. do the palestinian could play. do the palestinian authorities now see a
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major opportunity?— palestinian authorities now see a major opportunity? well, that's a really interesting _ major opportunity? well, that's a really interesting question. - major opportunity? well, that's a really interesting question. i - major opportunity? well, that's a really interesting question. i am | really interesting question. i am not sure it is one i know i could confidently assert either way. because you speak to some people who say, the palestinian authority potentially has the capability if the west gets behind it. if they find new leadership and it gets a bit of golf money attached to it, potentially it could be beefed up. others say this is an organisation thatis others say this is an organisation that is financially crippled, you cannot even pay a lot of its staff. it has been hit by weak leadership, allegations of corruption and it is not hugely trusted by partners in the gulf. because it is the show in town it is an organisation into which many people at the moment are investing an awful lot of weight, an awful lot of hope. but at the moment it is something, a fair amount of
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questions about whether it has the capability to go into gaza and potentially be the organisation that replaces hamas in the future, if that were to be a potential scenario that were to be a potential scenario that could happen. it's all about security, who is going to secure, who is going to be in charge of gaza, who is going to provide those services that at the moment are simply not being provided because of the war that is taking place? is an organisation like hamas, unlike the palestinian authority, really going to be able to take it over quite yet? to be able to take it over quite et? ., , to be able to take it over quite et? . , , to be able to take it over quite et? ., , , , ., yet? that is the burning question. james, yet? that is the burning question. james. thank _ yet? that is the burning question. james, thank you _ yet? that is the burning question. james, thank you for _ yet? that is the burning question. james, thank you for that. - under the terms of the deal, 50 hostages taken from israel and held in gaza are due to be released across all four days of the ceasefire. israel has said an extra day will be added to the ceasefire for every ten further hostages hamas releases. today, the israeli government has been contacting the families of the 13 who are on the list that hamas has provided. so imagine what the family groups have been going through as they wait for any news.
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with us tonight is itay raviv. his cousin, roee munder, was murdered in the attack on the 7th october — four members of the family were taken hostage. welcome to the programme and our sympathies for what you and your family are going through. the list has been communicated to the families, have you had a phone call? everyone has had a phone call saying whether their family member will be released or not. we have not communicated out yet because we don't want to ruin anything. we have seen what happens to promises by hamas. some were supposed to be released today, it didn't happen. it will be good to see our family
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members coming back in the next few days and if they are included in any of the lists hamas provides. they were led away in their pyjamas on october the 7th and we haven't heard anything since. just october the 7th and we haven't heard anything since-— anything since. just to be clear, because there _ anything since. just to be clear, because there has _ anything since. just to be clear, because there has been - anything since. just to be clear, because there has been a - anything since. just to be clear, because there has been a real. because there has been a real problem with communication from the government, a lot of families on the programme and they have complained about that, do you know whether today all the families have been contacted? yes. they have. ok. there was a problem — contacted? yes. they have. ok. there was a problem with _ contacted? yes. they have. ok. there was a problem with communication . contacted? yes. they have. ok. there was a problem with communication in | was a problem with communication in the beginning, but every family member has had an official person from the government to speak with. did they communicate anything about the role of the international community for the red cross because you will know there has been some confusion about whether or not they will be able to go in and see all
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the hostages and take medication to them? the the hostages and take medication to them? ., , , the hostages and take medication to them? .,, , , the hostages and take medication to them? ,, ., them? the red cross is supposed to help prisoners _ them? the red cross is supposed to help prisoners of _ them? the red cross is supposed to help prisoners of war _ them? the red cross is supposed to help prisoners of war and _ them? the red cross is supposed to help prisoners of war and this - them? the red cross is supposed to help prisoners of war and this is - help prisoners of war and this is not something that should be legitimised in any type of war. they are innocent civilians that were taken from the homes on october the 7th. , taken from the homes on october the 7th. y ., , 7th. sorry, do they feel, the israeli government - 7th. sorry, do they feel, the israeli government in - 7th. sorry, do they feel, the israeli government in their. israeli government in their conversations with you on the phone, do they feel they will be given contact? .. . do they feel they will be given contact? ., , ., contact? that is what was reported. i ho -e contact? that is what was reported. i hope they — contact? that is what was reported. i hope they will _ contact? that is what was reported. i hope they will because _ contact? that is what was reported. i hope they will because my - contact? that is what was reported. i hope they will because my four - i hope they will because my four family members who are hostages, all of them wear glasses, i don't if they have their glasses on them. he is 78, not in very good health. he needs to take medicine daily and i don't know if he is getting any food or water. don't know if he is getting any food orwater. i don't know if he is getting any food or water. i do hope the red cross sees him and that he gets released as soon as possible because he is
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not a soldier, he is a hostage and this is important that everyone needs to understand. it is this is important that everyone needs to understand. it is truly awful, needs to understand. it is truly awful. isn't _ needs to understand. it is truly awful, isn't it? _ needs to understand. it is truly awful, isn't it? i— needs to understand. it is truly awful, isn't it? i have- needs to understand. it is truly awful, isn't it? i have been - needs to understand. it is truly l awful, isn't it? i have been trying to think today what the families must be going through. can you give us an idea of that, what are you doing? are you sitting by the phone all day? doing interviews like this, it must be exhausting? yes. all day? doing interviews like this, it must be exhausting?— it must be exhausting? yes, it is exhausting. _ it must be exhausting? yes, it is exhausting. it — it must be exhausting? yes, it is exhausting, it is _ it must be exhausting? yes, it is exhausting, it is hell. _ it must be exhausting? yes, it is exhausting, it is hell. in - it must be exhausting? yes, it is exhausting, it is hell. in the - it must be exhausting? yes, it isj exhausting, it is hell. in the past seven weeks all the families, all israelis have been doing everything we can to bring our loved ones back. right now, meeting with government officials are meeting with the israeli government, trying to do as much as possible, anything to do it. and also waiting for answers. {iii much as possible, anything to do it. and also waiting for answers. of the issue of what _ and also waiting for answers. of the
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issue of what happens _ and also waiting for answers. of the issue of what happens after- and also waiting for answers. of the issue of what happens after the - and also waiting for answers. of the issue of what happens after the fourj issue of what happens after the four days, we know that there is provision within this agreement to extend it every day for ten hostages. it must have crossed your mind that if they don't come out in the first 50, and the war restarts, the first 50, and the war restarts, the war will focus on the south where presumably many of these hostages have been taken. is it the position of the families right now but they want the government to give this as much time as they can? i this as much time as they can? i really... i can say for myself, i hope this pause lasts for an extra 20 days or so to get them home. i am not sure hamas will do that, but if it continues for an extra 20 days, everyone in israel will be happy, i can tell you for sure. we want everyone home as soon as possible.
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israel does want to stop hamas because we cannot allow hamas to cause a threat again. what they did on october the 7th is unforgivable for any israeli and we cannot live next to them once more. our thoughts are with you — next to them once more. our thoughts are with you tonight _ next to them once more. our thoughts are with you tonight and _ next to them once more. our thoughts are with you tonight and thank - next to them once more. our thoughts are with you tonight and thank you - are with you tonight and thank you for coming on the programme in the circumstances.— for coming on the programme in the circumstances. thank you very much. around the — circumstances. thank you very much. around the world _ circumstances. thank you very much. around the world and _ circumstances. thank you very much. around the world and across - circumstances. thank you very much. around the world and across the - circumstances. thank you very much. around the world and across the uk, | around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news. let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news. household energy prices will rise in january putting more financial pressure on bill payers at the coldest time of the year. off gem said the typical annual household bill go up by £94, or 5%. it said the rise would be worrying at a for many people but it was the result of higher wholesale costs faced by suppliers. nissan is expected to announce on friday that the electric versions of the cash chi and the duke are to be
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made at the sunderland plant. the plant currently employs around 6,000 staff to build petrol versions of the two cars as well as the electric leaf. families will be £1,900 poorer at the end of this parliament compared with the beginning, according to the think tank, the resolution foundation. it said this government would set a "grim" new record for living standards going down. but chancellorjeremy hunt said the tax cuts announced in the autumn statement would put more money in people's pockets. you're live with bbc news. let's return to the deal between israel and hamas. 150 palestine prisoners will be released. all women and children. the oldest on the list is 59 years old, he was arrested in september before the hamas attacks. many of her family
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have been in prison. because they are related to this man, who won support of the peace process but later became disillusioned and led the second intifada. her sister—in—law has talked to the bbc about their arrest. sister-in-law has talked to the bbc about their arrest.— about their arrest. they give her administer _ about their arrest. they give her administer detention. _ about their arrest. they give her administer detention. that - about their arrest. they give her i administer detention. that means they will not accuse her of anything. it is secret files. this is the first time she is in prison. they give herfor is the first time she is in prison. they give her for months, is the first time she is in prison. they give herfor months, she is the first time she is in prison. they give her for months, she will finish almost three months and she is a grandmother, granddaughters, grandsons and she has 16. they are making it hard for this family because the family itself, it is a family who were asking for our freedom. we are fighting them in a
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way but she didn't do anything. she didn't have any visitors since they took her. even on the 7th of october, she didn't have a chance to visit because they were not allowed, her family, visit because they were not allowed, herfamily, to visit because they were not allowed, her family, to see visit because they were not allowed, herfamily, to see her. we visit because they were not allowed, her family, to see her.— her family, to see her. we have a cam aiun her family, to see her. we have a campaign director _ her family, to see her. we have a campaign director with _ her family, to see her. we have a campaign director with the - her family, to see her. we have a campaign director with the globalj campaign director with the global palestine organisation and just days after the crisis he produced his own blueprint for the hostage release which was shared with seven of the negotiators involved. thank you for coming on the programme. it must be your view of the deal has outlined today could have been struck a long time ago? today could have been struck a long time auo? . today could have been struck a long time auo? , ., ., , today could have been struck a long timeao? , . . , ., time ago? yes, and actually from encirain time ago? yes, and actually from engaging with _ time ago? yes, and actually from engaging with mediators - time ago? yes, and actually from engaging with mediators and - time ago? yes, and actually from engaging with mediators and key| engaging with mediators and key stakeholders and the families that the palestinians imprisoned other families of israeli hostages, we know for a fact that a deal very close to the one that was signed and agreed upon today could have been signed and agreed upon at least
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three weeks ago. and just to remember that if that had happened more than 3000 palestinian children would have still been alive. it is important to keep in mind that this agreement was reached through mediation and through the pressure created by mass mobilisation. not by the missiles that were falling over the missiles that were falling over the last 48 days. i the missiles that were falling over the last 48 days.— the missiles that were falling over the last 48 days. i understand from talkin: to the last 48 days. i understand from talking to people — the last 48 days. i understand from talking to people around _ the last 48 days. i understand from talking to people around the - talking to people around the negotiation, the israelis did hold off on a ground invasion until, i think, the 27th of october and the reason their patience ran out is because hamas didn't produce a list? i don't think that is fully accurate. my understanding with speaking with the mediators was that hamas was working on a lisp at one of the key challenges at the time was that not all of the hostages are held by hamas. some of them are being held by otherfactions
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held by hamas. some of them are being held by other factions and the communications, as many people are aware in gaza, they were disrupted and the internet was cut. so they couldn't offer the larger list of names. what i have heard from mediators, the israeli war cabinet could have waited and allowed a list to be created but they prioritise the ground invasion. remember, that didn'tjust lead to the death and bloodshed of many palestinians in gaza, it is reported that a few of the hostages, at least three reportedly, have been killed in the earth strikes. we reportedly, have been killed in the earth strikes.— earth strikes. we cannot verify that, but those _ earth strikes. we cannot verify that, but those are _ earth strikes. we cannot verify that, but those are the - earth strikes. we cannot verifyj that, but those are the reports earth strikes. we cannot verify - that, but those are the reports that have come from within gaza. can i ask you about the different groups that have control? there were logistical problems we were told for the hold—up, this was supposed to happen yesterday and some reports that additional requests were made. could you venture an opinion on what is going to the head of the hamas
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commanders and why this is so complex for them? do they have full control over palestinian islamic jihad? i control over palestinian islamic 'ihad? ., , ., ,, jihad? i of course cannot speak, i don't know— jihad? i of course cannot speak, i don't know the _ jihad? i of course cannot speak, i don't know the details _ jihad? i of course cannot speak, i don't know the details of- jihad? i of course cannot speak, i don't know the details of what . jihad? i of course cannot speak, i don't know the details of what is | don't know the details of what is happening in gaza at the moment. our understanding is, from the ground in terms of logistical concerns, due to the complete destruction that we have seen in gaza and the lack of feel and lack of electricity and so forth, it is very hard to have any type of communication. even families trying to reach their loved ones in gaza cannot reach them. i think part of the logistical challenges that existed today was also figuring out exactly how the release would happen. would it happen to egypt, with the red cross be present? also the palestinian women and children, how would they be released until would they be released? and also, this is what should be remembered,
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hopefully tomorrow they 7am we will start to see images of palestinian families embracing their children, israeli families embracing their children and that will shift the imagery from what we have been seeing over the last 48 days. indeed so and a tough _ seeing over the last 48 days. indeed so and a tough night _ seeing over the last 48 days. indeed so and a tough night for _ seeing over the last 48 days. indeed so and a tough night for families - seeing over the last 48 days. indeed so and a tough night for families on | so and a tough night forfamilies on both sides of this, you are right to point it out. very quickly, only a minute left, do you think once there is a ceasefire for four days that hamas would be in a position to produce a full list of the families will know he was there and what their condition is? mr; will know he was there and what their condition is? my understanding is that is the — their condition is? my understanding is that is the goal. _ their condition is? my understanding is that is the goal. i _ their condition is? my understanding is that is the goal. i understand - is that is the goal. i understand governments, particularly the british government and the american government should continue to push and ensure this going from a humanitarian pause into a ceasefire. i understand from negotiated, it is
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the only way to ensure the hostages are released safely and ensure the bloodshed and slaughter happening in gaza with genocidal fervour is put to an end. .. ~ gaza with genocidal fervour is put to an end. ., ,, i. ., ., to an end. thank you for coming on the programme- — to an end. thank you for coming on the programme. we _ to an end. thank you for coming on the programme. we will— to an end. thank you for coming on the programme. we will talk- to an end. thank you for coming on the programme. we will talk about | the programme. we will talk about the programme. we will talk about the political situation in the netherlands on the other side of the break. we will have our weekly look at artificial intelligence, ai decoded, coming up. hello there. we see much more sunshine around today but it feels different in different parts of the country. this was taken in suffolk and it feels mild. temperatures around 14 degrees in the afternoon. stay in scotland we are getting more sunshine but it is getting colder through the afternoon and around 8 degrees in perth. you can see the temperature contrast north—south across the uk.
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generally it is miles across the uk and wales with 13 degrees. but tomorrow for all of us it will be colder and those temperatures will be dropping. instead of this westerly wind that most of us are seeing today, we will replace it with more of a north or north—westerly wind and that is going to drag down the colder weather overnight and into tomorrow. the colder air coming in behind the weather front. the colder air coming in behind the weatherfront. this is where the colder air coming in behind the weather front. this is where the weather front. this is where the weather front. this is where the weather front is this evening, not much rain on it at all and it sinks down towards the south—west. clear skies follow and a few showers into scotland and those turn wintry into lower levels and it could be quite stormy in shetland as well. overnight, it will be coldest in scotland and the far north of england. enough cloud elsewhere to keep the temperatures a few degrees above freezing. the cloud in northern ireland, wales and the south—west could produce one or two like showers but should break up. sunshine coming through. most places will be drying quite sunny. we still got showers, mostly of rain across
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northern scotland and driving down the north sea coast is aware that the north sea coast is aware that the winds are strongest. temperatures, generally into single figures, but it will feel colder where the winds are stronger. northern and eastern scotland, all the way down the easternmost part of england we have the strongest of the winds and temperatures will feel more like one, two, three degrees. quite a shock to the system. as the winds drop overnight we will get the first widespread frost of the autumn. lowest temperatures will be in london and away from those exposed coasts and numbers could be as low as minus five. on saturday, most places will be dry and sunny and it will not be as windy. not as many showers in the north—east and down the north sea coast. more cloud coming into northern parts of scotland. temperatures sitting around six or 7 degrees and it will feel cold again on sunday but there will be more cloud around.
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round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's hugh. if novak djokovic can do what he's been doing a lot recently, he'll take serbia into the semi finals of the davis cup. the world number one is taking on cameron norrie in their quarter final tie against great britain. a victory would seal progress after miomir kecmanovic beat jack draper in the first rubber of the best—of—three tie. novak djokovic is serving for a 5—3 lead, best of three in these matches. if he does win, there'll be no need for the doubles match that would follow. the winner will face italy in the semi finals on saturday. jannik sinner won his singles match, and then teamed up with lorenzo sonego to take the deciding doubles for a 2—1 victory over the netherlands. the 12 teams still in with a chance of qualifying for euro 2024 have found out what route they'll need to take to make it to germany next year. wales will play finland in their playoff semi final in march — one of two games they'll have to win
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